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Rub
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:12 AM
The way she's played Kim, she should be.

Her style reminds me of Serena Williams (which is obviously the most effective style in this era).

It's just odd that someone with huge talent has not been able to achieve what she should've.

claypova
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:14 AM
she is too inconsistent. she lost to sally peers last week.

MB.
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:21 AM
...you need to review the way the ranking system works, buddy. It's past year, not past week.

Singleniacki
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:26 AM
She will be at some part of her career, I'm sure of it.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:30 AM
She is taking pace off some of her shots & being more consistent.
I think both Alisa & Nastia have top 5 talent. Just a matter of time.

Cp6uja
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:37 AM
Whatever people thinking about it, It's not that easy to reach TOP10 for sure. But in Kleybanova case real question is why she never so far reach even TOP20?!? For that she arguable has enough talent and skills.

Pops Maellard
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:38 AM
She's an inconsistent ballbasher.

Sp!ffy
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:49 AM
Because even my mom's more fit than her.

Nikkiri
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:54 AM
Because the week before.. she lost to Sally Peers.

Sally Todd
Jan 13th, 2011, 07:55 AM
For someone not fit, Kleybanova moves very well and has strong three-set endurance. There's no doubt that she can be much fitter, but she's also fitter than she looks.

Cp6uja, I was disappointed she didn't crack the top 20 last year. Clay may not be her thing, but she has the game to be a major force at Wimbledon.

It's encouraging that she's carrying over her good play from the end of last year at least.

moby
Jan 13th, 2011, 08:02 AM
Her style reminds me of Serena Williams.http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/Elisser/flaminghotred2004_4-2.gif

Setsuna.
Jan 13th, 2011, 08:12 AM
She is still inconsistent player but she will break the top 10 this year. book it.

benbest
Jan 13th, 2011, 08:25 AM
inconsistency keeps her away from the top 10

edificio
Jan 13th, 2011, 08:26 AM
As everyone has said, get more steady, girl!

Stamp Paid
Jan 13th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Her style reminds me of Serena Williams.http://i55.tinypic.com/aa7h2f.gif

Ingokoer
Jan 13th, 2011, 10:19 AM
Her style reminds me of Serena Williams

No, I think she reminds more of Lindsay, style of play, size, fitness, hitting. Even Eurosport Commentators did say that she could be the new Lindsay Davenport.

claypova
Jan 13th, 2011, 10:22 AM
No, I think she reminds more of Lindsay, style of play, size, fitness, hitting. Even Eurosport Commentators did say that she could be the new Lindsay Davenport.

yes, thats what i think as well :lol: although Lindsay has cleaner groundstrokes and a more reliable serve, but Alisa is stilll young and will improve them.

renstar
Jan 13th, 2011, 11:19 AM
Saw this match live. Was VERY impressed with Alisas retrieving ability, and ability to turn defense into offense. She was getting a LOT of balls today that against most players would have been winners, really stayed in the points well. Thus she is not just a brainless ballbasher. She was also a lot of the time plain over powering Kim, something not many can do except Serena on a good day. Yes she can be inconsistent week in and out but shes only 21 so when she gets her act together more like top 5 material not top 10

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jan 13th, 2011, 11:22 AM
Because she can only play well on surfaces which give her time. She gets rushed on grass and deco turf and hence she is quite inconsistent on those surfaces.

PS:- She reminds me more of Safina. especially since she has incorporated more spin on her strokes as compared to a couple of years ago.

Pops Maellard
Jan 13th, 2011, 11:24 AM
Because she can only play well on surfaces which give her time. She gets rushed on grass and deco turf and hence she is quite inconsistent on those surfaces.

PS:- She reminds me more of Safina.

Yep. Especially the way she sounds like she's giving birth when she hits the ball.

Mightymirza
Jan 13th, 2011, 11:37 AM
Movement, inconsistency

Beat
Jan 13th, 2011, 11:39 AM
Her style reminds me of Serena Williams (which is obviously the most effective style in this era).

huh?

jimmy_the_greek
Jan 13th, 2011, 12:05 PM
she needs to be more consistent. Also she makes alot of unforced errors in her games most of the time because she isn't patient.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2011, 12:44 PM
I think she will be a much better grass player than Dinara. Her shots are much more aggressive than Safina.
She should be an all court player, but she has the game to do very well at Wimbledon

Hian
Jan 13th, 2011, 12:45 PM
She's not bad, but if she loses to Peers :hysteric:

nevetssllim
Jan 13th, 2011, 12:56 PM
I never really see the comparisons between Kleybanova and Davenport. Kvitova reminds me more of Davenport then Kleybanova.

Anyway, I think Kleybanova will make the top-20 in the next year or so. I think she was a bit unlucky last year because she picked up an injury after she was gaining momentum with a title in Kuala Lumpur and a good run in Indian Wells and this really set her back. Also, she made such a rapid improvement in 2008 improving from 150 to 35 in about six months so I guess it's inevitable there was going to be a bit of a plateau in her progression and I think some people, including myself, have been a bit impatient in our expectations.

Kleybanova will never be the most streamlined player but even though she's very strong, moves deceptively well and is really dangerous on the run and I think she's improved her fitness over the off-season too.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:53 PM
People compare her to Davenport because they are slow, powerful & good near the net.
But Lindsay was much steadier, & that is something Alisa has to improve

bjurra
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:36 PM
I saw Alisa play two matches at the USO, first against Larsson and then against Errani. What I saw was a slow player with terrible timing who didnt look to belong in the top 50.

Obviously, her tennis in Sydney has been excellent but she needs to get rid of those dips to become top 10.

Smitten
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:39 PM
No, I think she reminds more of Lindsay, style of play, size, fitness, hitting. Even Eurosport Commentators did say that she could be the new Lindsay Davenport.

Kleybanova is nothing like Davenport except in physical stature.

Brena
Jan 13th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Movement, inconsistency

What are you talking about? Have you seen how fast she is? She can retrieve like crazy and play long rallies.

Natash.
Jan 13th, 2011, 03:48 PM
What are you talking about? Have you seen how fast she is? She can retrieve like crazy and play long rallies.

Right? Her movement is not that bad.

Monzanator
Jan 13th, 2011, 03:55 PM
"Not that bad" isn't good enough for Top 10 unless you really have a killer shot instead which Kleybanova hasn't :shrug:

supergrunt
Jan 13th, 2011, 04:01 PM
"Not that bad" isn't good enough for Top 10 unless you really have a killer shot instead which Kleybanova hasn't :shrug:

It is better than some of the other players in the top 10 :shrug: .

Sally Todd
Jan 13th, 2011, 04:13 PM
I love all this disagreement about her, and how she reminds people of so many different players (or doesn't).

Kleybanova is a nice mover -- she gets to a lot of shots other players don't, and sometimes converts them to winners.

Davenport's form was much different. Classic clean ball-striking whereas people comment on the weirdness of Kleybanova's groundstrokes. Davenport was not fast. I might as well throw Seles in as another comparison to agree with or reject.

So many players are inconsistent, and Kleybanova's no different. But her game looks more solid, so I have more faith in her than in some of the other hopes. Also she's more of a fighter than much of the tour, mentally sound when I've seen her.

I'm curious how her slightly altered game will translate to grass this year. She gave Venus quite a scare at Wimbledon once.

is1531
Jan 13th, 2011, 04:17 PM
I don't know how Klaybanova catches up to see of these balls, then returns a shot that's almost impossible to reach.She has a very solid all around game,but she must not allow herself to have a letdown against inferior players.

nevetssllim
Jan 13th, 2011, 04:19 PM
People compare her to Davenport because they are slow, powerful & good near the net.
But Lindsay was much steadier, & that is something Alisa has to improve

I wouldn't say she's slow. I'd say she's much faster than Davenport but while Davenport wasn't the quickest movement-wise, she still had good footwork, while Kleybanova's isn't great.

rochelle100
Jan 13th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Her style reminds me of Serena Williams (which is obviously the most effective style in this era).


:help:

Leo_DFP
Jan 13th, 2011, 04:25 PM
No, I think she reminds more of Lindsay, style of play, size, fitness, hitting. Even Eurosport Commentators did say that she could be the new Lindsay Davenport.
:tape::tape::tape:

I've heard this comparison many times. It's laughable because a) Lindsay had accuracy; b) Lindsay had smooth technique; c) Lindsay had a better serve.

Kleybanova may be the Lindsay of the new generation, but it's a generation of shitty technique and complicated swings. The comparison doesn't really work beyond "big girls who hit hard." In that case, we can also call her a Mary Pierce.

In all honesty, has a doctor spoken to this girl about her forehand??

Leo_DFP
Jan 13th, 2011, 04:26 PM
I wouldn't say she's slow. I'd say she's much faster than Davenport but while Davenport wasn't the quickest movement-wise, she still had good footwork, while Kleybanova's isn't great.
Yep, Kleyb is more athletic than Lindsay in terms of pure foot speed and movement around the court. But her footwork, like the rest of her game, is sloppy.

Pops Maellard
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:07 AM
Today you were given your answer.

Sally Todd
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:12 AM
Today you were given your answer.

I wish I could have seen the proof because this seems like another confounding loss.

Is Kleybanova one of those players who rises to the occasion against big hitters and top players but becomes a hot mess against average ones? Or did Halep just beat her like a dirty rug?

goldenlox
Jan 20th, 2011, 05:19 AM
Alisa is very inconsistent. No excuse for today, but immaturity