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Horizon
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:15 AM
I'm trying not to be a WTA basher here, but.. we are about to go into a slam where:

The #1 and #2 seeded players have no slams to their name, and only a combined 5 semi finals? Both lost extremely convicingly in warm up tournaments.

And the undisputed best player of the generation and queen of the AO is absent.

With regards to other WTA stars:
Venus: has never done well here (by her standards), and is ageing.
Henin: is not what she was, and the Hopman cup was not promising.
Sharapova: is a complete mess.
Kuznetsova: can surprise us, but certainly doesn't seem brilliant recently.
Ivanovic: has been up and down for 2 years and now has an injury.
Azarenka: is still a rookie to the latter stages of slams, and suffers from high temperatures?
Jankovic: is out of sorts and could lose to anybody.

I'm kinda starting to think Stosur might be a really good bet with the crowd behind her.

Without Clijsters, the tour would be a disaster. Thinking it over, it really makes you wonder whether Dementieva was right to retire... she easily could've taken a slam in 2011.

eck
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:16 AM
So what did you call USOpen 2010, when both Justine and Serena were out?

Horizon
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:18 AM
So what did you call USOpen 2010, when both Justine and Serena were out?
Well I thought that at least then Wozniacki looked pretty convincing and most other players weren't completely out of it... but yeh that wasn't great either.

Claycourter
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:20 AM
RG '08, '09 and especially '10 were all much worse.


Henin: is not what she was, and the Hopman cup was not promising.


Did you actually watch Hopman Cup?

eck
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:21 AM
I understand where you're coming from.

But based on past tournaments, it never seemed like seedings mattered that much.
I dunno, but often AO is quite interesting to me because there's some dark horse that emerges from the pack.

AcesHigh
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:23 AM
Whatever happens, it definitely won't be worse than 2006

Uranium
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:24 AM
Venus: has never done well here at all, and is ageing.


5 QFs, a SF and a Final. She has done SOOOO bad in Melbourne:o

Horizon
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:27 AM
RG '08, '09 and especially '10 were all much worse.


Did you actually watch Hopman Cup?
Vs. Molik and Ana yes... despite winning 4 matches I didn't think Justine was that great.

In terms of quality coming into the tournament RG 08 was pretty good. If it wasn't for Henin's 'retirement' a few weeks before it would've been a great line up.

5 QFs, a SF and a Final. She has done SOOOO bad in Melbourne:o
I'm not dissing her :o But by Venus' standards that's not great.

goldenlox
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:28 AM
It's no worse than a lot of other recent majors, like people have mentioned.
It's hard to say who has form based on the last 2 weeks.
We're going to find out who's in form as they get to week 2.

I thought there were some very good points in the Kim-Vera & Alisa-Domi matches.
You'll see some good tennis

@danieln1
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:39 AM
Blah blah blah... It's going to be a mess, and it would be great if neither Kimberly or Christine wins this, otherwise the final would be SOOOOOO boring...

Hopefully a young player could step up there, or Venus!!!

Smitten
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:42 AM
I'm trying not to be a WTA basher here, but.. we are about to go into a slam where:

The #1 and #2 seeded players have no slams to their name, and only a combined 5 semi finals? Both lost extremely convicingly in warm up tournaments.

And the undisputed best player of the generation and queen of the AO is absent.

With regards to other WTA stars:
Venus: has never done well here (by her standards), and is ageing.
Henin: is not what she was, and the Hopman cup was not promising.
Sharapova: is a complete mess.
Kuznetsova: can surprise us, but certainly doesn't seem brilliant recently.
Ivanovic: has been up and down for 2 years and now has an injury.
Azarenka: is still a rookie to the latter stages of slams, and suffers from high temperatures?
Jankovic: is out of sorts and could lose to anybody.

I'm kinda starting to think Stosur might be a really good bet with the crowd behind her.

Without Clijsters, the tour would be a disaster. Thinking it over, it really makes you wonder whether Dementieva was right to retire... she easily could've taken a slam in 2011.

Stosur will never win anything important off clay.

duhcity
Jan 13th, 2011, 01:47 AM
If I tried, I could link you to worst ever threads to every slam for the past 3 years.

And lord, 30/20/15/10/5 years ago there were seeds struggling before and or during slams. It isn't new. Just because players you don't like or approve of are at the top of the game or upsetting your faves doesn't equate to tennis apocalypse.

RenaSlam.
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:07 AM
This AO will be busted as shit.

Six Feet Under
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:08 AM
Francesca Schiavone, save the WTA.

pav
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:12 AM
This AO will be busted as shit.
Is that because a certain badly behaved player is missing:confused:

Stonerpova
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:15 AM
I think it's a questionable tournament going in only because the players I'd normally expect to step up in Serena's absense (Sharapova and Henin) are in questionable form for one reason or another. It will be interesting to see if A) either of those two can reclaim former glory, B) how Clijsters will handle the role of overwhelming favorite C) how Zvonareva and Wozniacki will deal with pressure (please, God, no tears!) and D) if any new players will step up and take their shot at a major. I'd love to see one of the Serbs do something big here, but one is injured and one is Jankovic, so I won't hold my breath.


RG '08, '09 and especially '10 were all much worse.


I disagree. RG 08 was a fun tournament for me. I'm not much of a Safina fan, but she played hella well to get to the final. I loved her fight. The Sharapova match was an absolute classic. And the Ivanovic/Jankovic semi was the best match of 08 for me. Incredible level of play for both. And the final was only one of two for the entire decade (along with, obviously, 2001) that I actually enjoyed. I think that match has been re-written by history. A lot of analysts make it out like Safina choked away the final, but she was outplayed by Ivanovic, who held her nerve well. Safina was noticeably tired after her run, though.

I also really enjoyed 2010's French. I mean, how could you not? Schiavone had the performance of the year (in my opinion) and a lot of the matches on the top half of the draw (Maria/Justine, and Stosur's matches against Henin and Serena) were all quite good.

Ryan
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:17 AM
I'm trying not to be a WTA basher here, but.. we are about to go into a slam where:

The #1 and #2 seeded players have no slams to their name, and only a combined 5 semi finals? Both lost extremely convicingly in warm up tournaments.

And the undisputed best player of the generation and queen of the AO is absent.

With regards to other WTA stars:
Venus: has never done well here (by her standards), and is ageing.
Henin: is not what she was, and the Hopman cup was not promising.
Sharapova: is a complete mess.
Kuznetsova: can surprise us, but certainly doesn't seem brilliant recently.
Ivanovic: has been up and down for 2 years and now has an injury.
Azarenka: is still a rookie to the latter stages of slams, and suffers from high temperatures?
Jankovic: is out of sorts and could lose to anybody.

I'm kinda starting to think Stosur might be a really good bet with the crowd behind her.

Without Clijsters, the tour would be a disaster. Thinking it over, it really makes you wonder whether Dementieva was right to retire... she easily could've taken a slam in 2011.


Completely disagree. You've got a ton of Slam champs here, former #1's, all the Top 10 minus Serena. The top 2 might not be the strongest ever - or even close - but that hardly makes the tournament overall weak.

Horizon
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:27 AM
Completely disagree. You've got a ton of Slam champs here, former #1's, all the Top 10 minus Serena. The top 2 might not be the strongest ever - or even close - but that hardly makes the tournament overall weak.

Well, I agree that on paper there are lots of players with lots of potential. But what I mean is, like ^^ said, that none of them seem in the right kind of place to step up and really challenge Clijsters for the title.

Wiggly
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:33 AM
Perhaps.
There's only Clijsters who's truly in a Slam winning form.

AnomyBC
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:40 AM
Definitely not the weakest ever. Just looking at the Open Era, 1977-1979 were probably the weakest Australian Opens on the female side. Maybe 1976 as well. And then of course there were many before the Open Era which were even weaker.

Pops Maellard
Jan 13th, 2011, 02:48 AM
No top 10 players are in good form besides Clijsters. Our top seed plays uninspired tennis even when she is winning her matches and is likely to make her usual fourth round exit. We have former slam champs and #1s but the vast majority of them are a complete mess at the moment.

I don't hold out high hopes for this tournament at all.

Frontin
Jan 13th, 2011, 03:04 AM
I think the field is reasonable actually.

Ju was great at Hopman Cup. Not as good as AO 2010 vs Elena D, but still showed signs of promise for 2011. Kim is playing amazing. I think Venus will make at least quarters and Vika has a good chance too.

I think we will be very lucky to have a Ju vs Kim semi or final (if the draw doesn't stuff everything up that is).

There will be a few surprise quarterfinals though... that's for sure.

Roookie
Jan 13th, 2011, 03:09 AM
I don't think it could get any worse than AO 2009

Frontin
Jan 13th, 2011, 03:12 AM
^ I agree

That had no Kim, Ju, Masha etc

At least this open has everyone in this generation minus Serena and Lena but she retired. If Rena played it would be perfect.

V's a star
Jan 13th, 2011, 03:29 AM
5 QFs, a SF and a Final. She has done SOOOO bad in Melbourne:o

He/she said by HER standards Uranium. No denying her results havnt been up to par but still better than 98% of the tour.