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supergrunt
Jan 5th, 2011, 12:21 AM
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Vulture first picks up on the slow-paced editing. “Despite all that titillating content, though, the clip feels more moderately paced than most music videos; either that means the cuts are relatively slower than the manic rate at which the rest of the field generally operates, or there really is more work to be done before the video’s ready for public consumption.”

Hit Fix dug the horrific clip, calling the vid “chilling”, “riveting”, and “raw—as any video that begins with a hanging body would be—and feels like a brutal reveal of West’s psyche.”

Consequence of Sound wasn’t as adoring. They found the video “pretty-terribly-done” and wonders whether “Justin Vernon couldn’t make it, or Kanye never bothered to finish it.”

Rolling Stone was extremely impressed with Nicki’s sequence. “It’s a brilliant visual take on a breathtakingly badass verse, but really, they could’ve just focused in on her incredible facial expressions and called it a day. She’s just that entertaining to watch.”

EW Music Mix wanted a more original concept from the rapper. “Glamorizing violence against women this way as we enter 2011 isn’t just potentially pretty offensive to a lot of people — it’s played out and boring. I expect better from an artist as boundlessly creative as Kanye West.” They add that the “video’s best sequence, wherein Nicki Minaj diabolically interrogates herself, doesn’t rely on the stale dead-model motif.”


We tend to agree with EW that the Nicki Vs. Nicki sequence is undoubtedly our favorite in the video, not because it really looks like they managed to clone Nicki Minaj and stick the two of her in a scene using no special effects, or because having two Nicki’s is appropriate for the rapper who boats multiple personalities mid-verse, or because it’s simply more fun and certainly makes us less uncomfortable than the remainder of the scenes in the clip… but because it’s all of those things put together.

What did you think of “Monster”? Or are you reserving judgement for the finished product that hopefully doesn’t include unpurchased background photos from Getty Images?



http://idolator.com/5729532/kanye-west-monster-reviews

Ryan
Jan 5th, 2011, 12:49 AM
Such an epic video. Song is awesome, of course. Kanye's a genius. Minaj's verse is so dope.

ampers&
Jan 5th, 2011, 12:59 AM
I think the vid is dope as hell. That's all really.

supergrunt
Jan 5th, 2011, 01:02 AM
I guess violence against women is... "dope."

Imperfect Angel
Jan 5th, 2011, 01:09 AM
Somehow I think it's like a Thriller rip-off.:o

But absolutely loving Nicki in this.:cheer:

Ryan
Jan 5th, 2011, 01:12 AM
I guess violence against women is... "dope."



Whatever, thats some bullshit. There's no violence against women, just dead models and body parts. I don't see how that promotes abusing/denigrating women. It's a video, with a theme, that people are taking too seriously.

ampers&
Jan 5th, 2011, 01:13 AM
I guess violence against women is... "dope."
The video is violent in general. Why isn't anyone speaking out against the violence against the men in the video too? :lol:

It's called Monster for a reason.

nufflemutts
Jan 5th, 2011, 01:35 AM
Such an epic video. Song is awesome, of course. Kanye's a genius. Minaj's verse is so dope.

This. :worship:

Monster is one of the best tracks on the album.

ampers&
Jan 5th, 2011, 01:48 AM
One of my least favorite songs on the album. :o Not saying that it isn't amaze though. Particularly Nicki's verse.

So Appalled
Blame Game
All of the Lights
Lost in The World

:inlove:

Ryan
Jan 5th, 2011, 01:55 AM
Anyone have a new place/site they dl music from now? I don't want to get torrents. :ras: I need to hear more of this album!

nufflemutts
Jan 5th, 2011, 02:06 AM
Grooveshark? You can listen to the album online there.

doni1212
Jan 5th, 2011, 02:08 AM
Such an epic video. Song is awesome, of course. Kanye's a genius. Minaj's verse is so dope.

Kanye is most definitely a genius, :worship:

Whatever, thats some bullshit. There's no violence against women, just dead models and body parts. I don't see how that promotes abusing/denigrating women. It's a video, with a theme, that people are taking too seriously.

Exactly.

supergrunt
Jan 5th, 2011, 02:20 AM
How is he a genius??

doni1212
Jan 5th, 2011, 02:38 AM
How is he a genius??

Listen to "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy". That explains it all. And as a bonus, watch the Runaway film.
:yeah:

esquímaux
Jan 5th, 2011, 02:53 AM
The video definitely has shock value, but nothing to awe about. If you ask me, they seem like all the other freaks and paper gangsters in Los Angeles.

égalité
Jan 5th, 2011, 05:11 AM
Oh my goodness Nicki's verse is just PERFECTION :hearts:

iPatty
Jan 5th, 2011, 05:18 AM
One of my least favorite songs on the album. :o Not saying that it isn't amaze though. Particularly Nicki's verse.

So Appalled
Blame Game
All of the Lights
Lost in The World

:inlove:

No Dark Fantasy?

ampers&
Jan 5th, 2011, 07:29 AM
No Dark Fantasy?
That one is definitely super dope too.

duhcity
Jan 5th, 2011, 08:20 AM
Nicki makes this song.
Been on repeat since the album came out

nufflemutts
Jan 5th, 2011, 12:18 PM
Her verse has been on repeat for over an hour now. :crying2:

HippityHop
Jan 5th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Genius;another word like "artist" that has completely lost any sort of meaning in a world of inane purveyors of pop.

Super Dave
Jan 5th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Always remember that there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

(Not saying he's either...)

tdot.
Jan 5th, 2011, 05:04 PM
Hate this song. Wish there was a video for Devil in a New Dress.

doni1212
Jan 5th, 2011, 05:05 PM
Genius;another word like "artist" that has completely lost any sort of meaning in a world of inane purveyors of pop.

How so? I don't use this word to describe artists often...

Always remember that there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

(Not saying he's either...)

True, and I believe he has traits of both. Some would argue that you can't be a genius without being insane...

Number19
Jan 5th, 2011, 09:34 PM
This needs a shocking video because it's boring. The only good thing about is Nicki Minaj. And mostly that is her ass.

RenaSlam.
Jan 6th, 2011, 03:20 PM
Lost in the World or All of the Lights would have been a better choice for a video, IMO.

jrm
Jan 6th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Is that a trick question?

AnDrEi.b
Jan 6th, 2011, 03:41 PM
Hate this song

doni1212
Jan 6th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Lost in the World or All of the Lights would have been a better choice for a video, IMO.

They just finished filming All of the Lights. Hopefully it will be out soon! :drool:
Another future #1 hit for RiRi!!

Vincey!
Jan 6th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Kanye is just an attention whore, he wanted people to talk about him again. I bet he's gonna claim he is a genius and that it is the best fucking video of the year again. :o The guy has no class.

le bon vivant
Jan 6th, 2011, 09:36 PM
They just finished filming All of the Lights. Hopefully it will be out soon! :drool:
Another future #1 hit for RiRi!!http://i56.tinypic.com/2mhct8j.gif

doni1212
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:15 AM
Kanye is just an attention whore, he wanted people to talk about him again. I bet he's gonna claim he is a genius and that it is the best fucking video of the year again. :o The guy has no class.

Let me guess, a Taylor Swift fan? :o :lol:

mckyle.
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:25 AM
They just finished filming All of the Lights. Hopefully it will be out soon! :drool:
Another future #1 hit for RiRi!!

RiRi won't get the #1 since Kanye didn't give anyone credit :rolls: He credited her in the liner notes but she didn't get a "feature"

winone23
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:26 AM
Listen to "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy". That explains it all. And as a bonus, watch the Runaway film.
:yeah:

I'm a huge Kanye West fan, with that said Runaway was pure garbage, the acting was horrible. It was just some lame weird ish that Kanye threw together.

doni1212
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:28 AM
RiRi won't get the #1 since Kanye didn't give anyone credit :rolls: He credited her in the liner notes but she didn't get a "feature"

Damn! I kind of noticed that on my iTunes. Then she shouldn't have appeared in the vid, :( :lol:
J/P :p I love Kanye and RiRi!

doni1212
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:30 AM
I'm a huge Kanye West fan, with that said Runaway was pure garbage, the acting was horrible. It was just some lame weird ish that Kanye threw together.

I don't think it was just thrown together. I think he took a lot of time when that and put a lot into it. It's very complex and deep. I think you're just looking at the surface...

I've watched it 4 times and understand it better with each time I watch it.

winone23
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:30 AM
Hated it! The song is lame, the video is lame, and Nicki Garbage's verse was lame. Power was a much more interesting video and song.

doni1212
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:33 AM
The Power Remix owns this song! I absolutely LOVE the Power Remix!!!

I hope him and Jay make a video for that when their album drops in March! It's called "Watch the Throne".

winone23
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:37 AM
I don't think it was just thrown together. I think he took a lot of time when that and put a lot into it. It's very complex and deep. I think you're just looking at the surface...

I've watched it 4 times and understand it better with each time I watch it.

No I didn't just look at the surface, I had really high hopes for Runaway. Kanye went out of his way to make the film more complex than it needed to be, which turned it into a wtf project. Kanye's chasing MJ right now he's trying to make these epic short films and videos, but he is not doing a good job with it Runway and Monster are not memorable.

Vincey!
Jan 7th, 2011, 04:01 AM
Let me guess, a Taylor Swift fan? :o :lol:

hmmmmm NO!You're wrong, Taylor is tasteless and boring. The guy is pretentious :shrug: and loves himself too much. That song is also quite horrible, I had to give him in the past that he made decent songs, but that one is just :o.

doni1212
Jan 7th, 2011, 04:10 AM
Kanye just released this picture and said 1.11.11. for Watch the Throne!!! So something is happening on Tuesday, probably a first single! But on New Years Eve he said "one week" till the album but I doubt they could get the album out on Tuesday right? :scratch:

Either way, I'm suppppppppppppperrr excited right now!!! :bounce:

http://i53.tinypic.com/2wexrvd.jpg

mckyle.
Jan 7th, 2011, 04:19 AM
Kanye trying to steal Britney's thunder :lol:

Vartan
Jan 7th, 2011, 05:27 AM
There is nothing "dope" about it :shrug:

Akila
Jan 7th, 2011, 03:13 PM
The video tries to do the utmost, and I think it fails :shrug:


Anyway doe. All of the lights is simply amazing. :inlove:

moby
Jan 7th, 2011, 05:34 PM
I love this song, especially/because of Nicki's verse. She slays.
The video was good, but not as amaze as the song.


One of my least favorite songs on the album. :o Not saying that it isn't amaze though. Particularly Nicki's verse.

So Appalled
Blame Game
All of the Lights
Lost in The World

:inlove:The whole album is amazing, period. Great sample of Avril 14 on Blame Game. KanyeGOAT.

Midnight_Robber
Jan 8th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Hate this song. Wish there was a video for Devil in a New Dress.

Hopefully there will be. 'Devil in a New Dress is one of the best tracks on the album.

This needs a shocking video because it's boring. The only good thing about is Nicki Minaj. And mostly that is her ass.

:lol: Not a Minaj/Kim clone fan by any means, but I'll admit that she has the standout verse ("Pink wig, big ass, give em' whip lash) and visuals here. None of her own material stands up to her one verse here. Kanye's okay (and at least expressive to watch and entertaining). Jay-Z is boring as hell. I didn't find this shocking in the least (it's too mannered and not at all creepy), and haven't we already seen some of this type of glossy, faux-dark imagery in Rhianna's 'Disturbia'? I think Monster's an okay track but...

Lost in the World or All of the Lights would have been a better choice for a video, IMO.

Right.

Overall, I was underwhelmed by this and bored by the indistinguishable dead models. (I'm curious though as to how people will react lynched and dead white women all over the show when they flipped out so badly at the 'brutish' Kanye being mean to poor, 'lil ol Taylor.)

Is Kanye a genius? Hmmm. But I do think he's very talented and that "My Twisted Dark Fantasy" is a good album.

doni1212
Jan 8th, 2011, 01:22 AM
Hopefully there will be. 'Devil in a New Dress is one of the best tracks on the album.


Great song, :worship: