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Dorien.
Mar 7th, 2011, 05:55 PM
sorry I didnt mean to "target " you but the way she behaved in that match was awful.
In 3rd set she kept saying "I dont manage to do it, I dont...) so negative and giving her opponent big signs of vulnerability. A real boost for sevastova and that's a thing she has to STOP.
so no that was not a good match at all for her cause she started again what she did for more than two years now: not believing in herself and being over negative. Her coach was saying her to stay positive even if she lose points but she didnt even hear him. Too obcessed about what she did wrong.
She must believe much more on herself and her strenghs or she's done.
Oh yes and WORK HARD ON HER SERVE.

No problem.
Thanks for your reports anyway ;)

Sombrerero loco
Mar 7th, 2011, 06:22 PM
good luck against the chinese alize!!

jiffster
Mar 7th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Alize defeated Xinyun Han (CHN) 6-3, 6-1

Sombrerero loco
Mar 7th, 2011, 11:23 PM
nice stats for alize, good luck in the qualifying final round!

HowardH
Mar 8th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Good scoreline for Alize there. Hopefully she can follow it up.

Nena_xxx
Mar 8th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Good scoreline for Alize there. Hopefully she can follow it up.

+1 :cheer:

Dorien.
Mar 8th, 2011, 07:09 PM
Solid start :cheer:

Sombrerero loco
Mar 8th, 2011, 07:17 PM
looking forward to a good result tonight!

jiffster
Mar 8th, 2011, 10:08 PM
Alize defeated Manasieva 6-3, 4-6, 6-0. Stats show that both players really struggled to hold serve the first two sets, but Alize reversed that trend in the third set and ended the match convincingly. Great final set!

Sombrerero loco
Mar 8th, 2011, 10:11 PM
alize :hearts: 30 points
lets hope a winnable first round now!

jiffster
Mar 9th, 2011, 01:35 AM
Alize will play Patty Schynder in the first round. Next up would be Pironkova who has a first round bye. Schiavone and Pavlyuchenkova also are possible opponents in her quarter. Not an easy draw, a few wins here would be a positive sign. Not sure I like her chances much against either Schiavone or Pavlyuchenkova. Hoping for the best though!

Sombrerero loco
Mar 9th, 2011, 08:40 AM
good luck against schnyder, she is winnable on hard courts!

HowardH
Mar 9th, 2011, 09:11 AM
Good luck to Alize against Patty! By the way, as an native English speaker, I'd just like to point out that you should say that Patty is beatable on hard courts. Alize has a winnable first round match, against a beatable opponent.

jiffster
Mar 9th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Alize defeats Patty 6-1, 6-4. She broke her at love to win the match. Next up is Pironkova.

Sombrerero loco
Mar 9th, 2011, 09:58 PM
alize :hearts: now lets defeat pironkova!!

HowardH
Mar 10th, 2011, 05:34 AM
Well done Alize. Pironkova is beatable, she hasn't had any form since her big wimbledon run last year.

Langers
Mar 10th, 2011, 01:39 PM
Great start! She's really playing well in 2011, ranking constantly heading north! :yeah:

Very winnable match against Pironkova, hoping for the best!

saint2
Mar 10th, 2011, 02:31 PM
Sorry, I rarely post in this board, and almost gave up posting in Players Subforums, but this time I had to react. Are those who are talking about "very beatable Pironkova" cheering for Alize since yesterday ? Tsveti defeated Alize both times they played each other, both matches were blowouts, and it was at times when Alize was legit player and Tsveti was lowly top100 journeywoman.

Now Pironkova is top40 player and Alize is still inconsistent, and its still very premature to claim she is "back in buisness". Tsveti should be regarded as favourite of this game, sorry...

HowardH
Mar 10th, 2011, 03:31 PM
I don't think people think Alize is favourite really. But we are hopeful, and the result seems like it could go either way. You definitely bring up a good point about the head to head. A 2 and 3 loss, and a 2 and 1 loss, one on clay and one on hardcourt, back in 2007/2008. That is certainly a worry for Alize, but (we hope) this might be balanced by Tsvetana's terrible form.

No one is sure about this result, but I think posters are right to have some hope here. The result is very much in the air since both players are slumping somewhat.

Alize is not solid in any way, but Tsvetana is definitely playing inconsistent tennis too, so Alize could be considered to have good chances.

Tsvetana is one of those players who can sometimes hit winners everywhere- obviously she did that the two previous times they played. But there is no guarantee this will happen again. As she showed in Wimbledon, when she is on she can destroy players. But she is not always on. There is always the possibility though that Alize's game may trigger Tsvetana to remember her best form- this is a legitimate concern for her. Perhaps Tsveti likes the way Alize's shots come to her. We will find out soon.

However, Pironkova is only top 40 due to her semifinal run in Wimbledon. Her ranking is extremely low considering she was a slam semifinalist, showing her otherwise poor results. Since Wimbledon Tsvetana has lost to, from most recent to least recent:

Paris Open France
32 L Barbora ZAHLAVOVA STRYCOVA (CZE) 6-7(5) 3-6
FED CUP - Group I, Europe/Africa, Group B
L Shahar PEER (ISR) 6-4 4-6 0-6
L Mandy MINELLA (LUX) 4-6 4-6
L Agnieszka RADWANSKA (POL) 2-6 4-6
Australian Open Australia
64 L Monica NICULESCU (ROU) 4-6 1-6
Hobart Australia
32 L Shuai PENG (CHN) 6-2 3-6 2-6
Moscow Russia
16 L Dominika CIBULKOVA (SVK) 4-6 1-6
Beijing China, P.R.
64 L Maria SHARAPOVA (RUS) 4-6 6-7(5)
Tokyo Japan
32 L Roberta VINCI (ITA) 4-6 2-6
U.S. Open USA
64 L Mandy MINELLA (LUX) 4-6 0-6
New Haven USA
32 L Anastasia RODIONOVA (AUS) 1-6 5-7
Copenhagen Denmark
32 L Anna LAPUSHCHENKOVA (RUS) 4-6 1-6
Istanbul Turkey
16 L Anastasia RODIONOVA (AUS) 1-6 6-3 2-6
Palermo Italy
16 L Jill CRAYBAS (USA) 6-2 2-6 2-6

During this same period Tsvetana has won only 6 matches, thus:

Australian Open 2011
128 W Pauline PARMENTIER (FRA) 6-4 3-6 6-3

Moscow Russia
32 W Ksenia PERVAK (RUS) 6-1 3-6 6-2

Tokyo Japan
64 W Ayumi MORITA (JPN) 6-3 7-5

U.S. Open USA
128 W Renata VORACOVA (CZE) 6-3 6-4

Istanbul Turkey
32 W Tatjana MALEK (GER) 7-6(4) 6-2

Palermo Italy
32 W Anna FLORIS (ITA) 6-4 7-6(4)

Hardly an intimidating list of conquests. We can see from these results that Tsvetana is certainly struggling with form. She is probably also struggling with the expectation on her now that she had that great run. She will be considered favourite in this match by many people simply due to the rankings, and this will actually put more pressure on her.

Alize's recent record is not really any good either. However since both are slumping, it is justifiable to believe Alize has a chance. But the head to head you pointed out is definitely concerning. I think overall it's very even. Both players have been slumping. Possibly, given the head to head, Tsvetana may have a slight edge due to the match up, but her form has been so bad I still think Alize has a decent chance.

Basically, I don't think Alize's necessarily going to play well. But there's a good chance Tsvetana will continue to play badly :lol:. The local wind also may induce extra errors from Tsveti. Conditions are very slow, and the bounce is very high. It's probably hard for Pironkova to hit her flat winners here, so I think this aspect suits Alize more. It's a hard match to call overall I admit, mostly because both players are fully capable of playing a terrible match.

Dorien.
Mar 10th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Very great win :hearts:

jiffster
Mar 10th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Great commentary, its these discussions, analysis and opinions that make following the sport so fun!

HowardH said it best "...both players are fully capable of playing a terrible match." I've followed Pironkova for several years and think she's extremely talented but for the most part not lived up to her potential. I've watched her live in Miami, where in five years she has only won one regular draw match--beating a player ranked in the 400's. She had a great run at Wimbledon last year, but remove that from her credentials and there really isn't much else to talk about. These two have played each other twice, but only once on hard courts and that was three years ago. Pironkova has not performed well this year, but she has been "in" the matches she has lost this year, and can be a tough fighter. She pulled out of Monterey with a wrist injury, I don't know if that will be a factor.

I think in general Alize does not match up well with players like Pironkova who hit the ball flat and hard. Both players are emotional, and their "mood on the court" that day can be a big factor. This really is a "flip a coin" match, and either could win or lose. The only slight advantage I give Alize is that she has already played and won three matches here this year, and should be comfortable with the conditions...and should have built up a little confidence (although we can never be sure of that...). If she is going to start to claw her way back up the rankings, this is the kind of match she has to win.

améliemomo
Mar 10th, 2011, 09:24 PM
good win over patty and sweet revenge from last year loss in Pragues.

Pironkova never been a good match up for alize cause she can be very agressive and playing good game against her.
But like it has been said alize played 3 matchs in those very windy conditions. She didnt play good but she knows she can cope with the conditions here. Huge psycological advantage for alize who needs it cause she's very inconsistent mentally.
Never know with alize but there's a possibility she can put an upset.

saint2
Mar 10th, 2011, 09:46 PM
BTW- looked at the draw again, and it lookes like a real revenge road for her...

1st round- Schnyder
2nd- Pironkova
3rd- Schiavone
4th- Pavluchenkova/Sevastova/Peer

améliemomo
Mar 11th, 2011, 10:26 AM
BTW- looked at the draw again, and it lookes like a real revenge road for her...

1st round- Schnyder
2nd- Pironkova
3rd- Schiavone
4th- Pavluchenkova/Sevastova/Peer

lol I had the same thought at first but History taught me not to expect too much, too fast with alize.:help:
Pironkova first. She must play this match before thinking about the next one.

duhcity
Mar 11th, 2011, 10:36 AM
Sorry, I rarely post in this board, and almost gave up posting in Players Subforums, but this time I had to react. Are those who are talking about "very beatable Pironkova" cheering for Alize since yesterday ? Tsveti defeated Alize both times they played each other, both matches were blowouts, and it was at times when Alize was legit player and Tsveti was lowly top100 journeywoman.

Now Pironkova is top40 player and Alize is still inconsistent, and its still very premature to claim she is "back in buisness". Tsveti should be regarded as favourite of this game, sorry...

It's not like Pironkova is lighting up the tour with her play.
It's winnable in as she didn't draw Jankovic/Clijsters/etc

Plus you're in the Cornet player forum, of course we think she can win :lol:

jiffster
Mar 11th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Nice win! Alize defeats Pironkova 7-5, 3-6, 6-2. Next up Schiavone or Ondraskova.

HowardH
Mar 11th, 2011, 11:18 PM
Nicely done! Did anyone see the match? I wonder if it was an ugly match. I'd guess probably. 12 DFs to Alize :lol: :o. Also most of Pironkova's losses (Alize's too) tend to be ugly. But it's a win!

Good luck to her in the next round.

Sombrerero loco
Mar 11th, 2011, 11:33 PM
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH allez alize!!!

jiffster
Mar 12th, 2011, 01:23 AM
Schiavone won her match easily today, so Alize will get another shot at beating Francesca. Tough task, but maybe she can exact some revenge!

Protoss
Mar 12th, 2011, 04:44 AM
Congrats Alize. :)

Sombrerero loco
Mar 12th, 2011, 08:34 AM
fransexa´s game is so annoying for alize, but hopefully she can do some good!allez!!

Langers
Mar 12th, 2011, 09:01 AM
Another win! :D I honestly thought she'd win, so I'm not shocked. :p

I'm loving 2011, the renewed confidence, it's so nice to see. :)

Dorien.
Mar 12th, 2011, 09:39 AM
Such a great tournament for her already! In third round she has nothing to lose, so give your best!

améliemomo
Mar 12th, 2011, 11:46 AM
fransexa´s game is so annoying for alize, but hopefully she can do some good!allez!!

yeah schiavone game is annoying to a lot of players. A very physical and intense battle when you have to play her. But beyond that the fact alize lost so many times against her it was because she let her play her game and gave up mentally.
She must play her own game and be strong mentally if she wants to have a chance of beating her in 3rd round. Schiavone can be mentally down when things are not turning out the way she wants. Alize will have to be very solide and not let her go ahead in the scoreline. Keep fighting like she did for 4 matchs now and go to the net when she can do so.

She stands absolutly NO CHANCE if she stay passive or too defensive behind the baseline. Plus she wont be able to handle the physical part she has to put against the italian.

The positive sign I see today about alize is that she found back her will to fight. Will it be enough in 3rd round?dont know.

Pax
Mar 13th, 2011, 12:31 PM
There will be live streaming :):)

Good luck Alizé against Schiavone!

Dorien.
Mar 13th, 2011, 08:35 PM
She lost 62 63 :hug:
But she can be proud about her tournament :yeah:

jiffster
Mar 14th, 2011, 12:22 AM
On the positive side, she had a string of wins and knocked out a seed along the way. On the negative side, she didn't take that "next step" and beat a player that no one expects her to beat. Francesca must feel pretty comfortable when she sees Alize on her schedule. I didn't see the match, but following the line score it looks like she never really challenged Francesca and had trouble holding serve. A year ago in Miami she lost to Schiavone in much the same way. So where is the advancement? I don't want to be too critical after a pretty decent run, but she needs to find a way to be more competitive in these types of matches if she really wants to climb back up the rankings. Lets hope she stays out of Schiavone's quarter of the draw in Miami.;)

Sombrerero loco
Mar 14th, 2011, 10:11 AM
she will have to play the qualies in miami?

HowardH
Mar 14th, 2011, 12:03 PM
:hug:. But it was expected. At least she got a few wins.

Nena_xxx
Mar 14th, 2011, 01:36 PM
Shame for last night's match. But good run for her. :cheer:

jiffster
Mar 14th, 2011, 02:05 PM
It was expected, I just would have liked to see her take it to three sets, or a tie breaker or show some sign that she is making progress against the higher seeds. I send nothing but positive energy her way, and don't dismiss the fact that she won four matches last week. But, unless she can find a way to start challenging the top players again, then she's going to make a continual second or third round exit at the larger tournaments, maybe do a little better at the smaller events if she gets a favorable draw. She seems (or has seemed in the past) to have more talent than that. I'm sure she's not happy being ranked in the 60's or 70's. But the only way you improve that is by beating players ranked above you--so as happy as I am that she won the four matches last week, it still feels like an opportunity missed and the kind of play we have seen from her for a few years now.

She's on the acceptance list for Miami, so I don't think she needs to qualify. The draw is 128 players v.s. the smaller 96 player draw in Indian Wells.

Langers
Mar 14th, 2011, 04:25 PM
I actually think she played very well against Schiavone, a very promising match indeed. Yes it was disappointing she lost in straights, but I think the scoreline didn't give a true reflection on the closeness of the match. It's just a pity Alize threw in that poor service game after taking a 3*-2 lead in the 2nd. She had the momentum at that point but lost her concentration a bit. She fought very hard, she never gave up and there were certainly some anxious moments for Schiavone.

She's certainly on her way upwards, and this tournament is yet another example of this, 2011 is going very well for her. :D She's become, quite easily, my favourite player. :)

Boomer23
Mar 15th, 2011, 02:20 AM
I really think exactly like you Langers, the score didn't reflect the math at all, I saw a great alize, even if she did'nt win, she really pleased me, fighting and all, great to see her on a good path.

Those who think she did bad didn't see her match, that's for sure.

HowardH
Mar 21st, 2011, 09:38 PM
She has drawn Virginie (Razzano) in Miami.

Sombrerero loco
Mar 21st, 2011, 10:50 PM
good luck against razzano alize!:D

jiffster
Mar 24th, 2011, 04:23 AM
Unfortunately our Alize lost to Razzano today, 6-3, 6-1. I was at the match and can't really say anything positive about her play. She was never in the match, and had her serve broken early and often. The lone bright spot was early in the match where she broke back and seemed for a few moments to be in the match. But she quickly lost her serve again, and shortly after started losing her temper. She started complaining about the line calls (there was no hawkeye on this court) and told the umpire "You just don't like me" (maybe she has some history with this umpire?). Late in the first set after losing her serve again, she sat down for the change over and was clearly angry and upset burying her head in her hands. The second set was a breeze for Razzano as she broke Alize's serve early and often. Razzano played fine, but didn't need to do anything special today to win. Alize was on the defensive most of the match, and at no point in the second set did she really show any fight. Her second serve was awful, and she won only about 20 percent of her second serves. She double-faulted a bunch, and double-faulted at least twice on break points. I don't think she had any aces. If she doesn't improve her serving, she has no chance in a tournament like this. Seems like she was quickly down love-30 every time she served, you are just not going to win many matches at this level like that.

All in all a dreadful day. If she is improving in any way she didn't show it today. After asking to speak to her coach at the end of the first set, she proceeded to loose a string of games and was quickly out of the match. I'm not sure what her new coach is doing to help turn things around, but today I saw a player who couldn't hold serve, couldn't dictate the points, had no apparent game plan, and mentally self destructed again. We've seen a lot of this in the last two years and I'm not sure she's progressing at all. I don't know if she sees a sports psychologist, but she might consider it at this point.

The French fans in attendance tried to give her support, but they seemed a little tired of watching her fall apart on court. Even the french photographers took off after the first set. They have seen this act before and they knew how it would end.

Anyone can have a bad day, and hopefully that's all it was. I am a fan, and want to be positive, but I also want to see her really live up to her potential. If a player gives it everything they have and fights hard and gets beat, then you can feel ok about that match and the way they played. That's not what I saw today. I saw a player that looked like they didn't belong in the draw, showed no fight and at times acted very immature on court. I've watched a ton of matches and players in the last few days, and the level of competition is just tremendous. If a player is not solid in every aspect of the game and mentally tough, there are too many other hungry players that are ready to destroy you--and will destroy you.

Dorien.
Mar 24th, 2011, 08:36 AM
Aah damn it :sad:
Thanks for your report :yeah:

HowardH
Mar 24th, 2011, 09:33 AM
Thank you for the report Jiffster. Alize :sad:.

duhcity
Mar 24th, 2011, 09:34 AM
I don't think Alize's serve is the problem.
Rather, it's how easy her game (including the serve) can collapse if she gets mentally affected.
It always seems to be the deal with her. If she gets sidetracked mentally, she's sure to lose.

jiffster
Mar 25th, 2011, 01:40 AM
I agree that once a player mentally loses it, their whole game can come apart. Wickmayer experienced that today. She was struggling with her shots and became very frustrated, which made things worse. She eventually lost in three sets.

In the case of Alize's latest match however, one of the reasons she mentally "lost it" was because of how poor her serving was--not the other way around.

Dorien.
Apr 2nd, 2011, 08:32 PM
Peer v BYE
Cornet v Arvidsson
Q v Czink
Goerges v Govortsova
Mattek-Sands v Q
Vesnina v Marino
Mayr Achleitner v Zhang
Stosur v BYE

Good luck Alizé :rocker:

Sombrerero loco
Apr 2nd, 2011, 09:28 PM
please beat her this time...

améliemomo
Apr 4th, 2011, 10:59 AM
That's clay. She should if she keeps a good attitude. A positive one.

Dorien.
Apr 4th, 2011, 07:00 PM
She lost in 3 sets :sad:

améliemomo
Apr 4th, 2011, 07:13 PM
another very weird match. Arvidsson is not a claycourter, losing to her is very bad result. That shows she's not playing good and mentally still too much inconsistent.

she must change something or she'll be slumping again.

HowardH
Apr 4th, 2011, 08:20 PM
Alize :sad: :hug:. She needs to figure out how to play her best game when she needs it. Admittedly it's not easy to figure this kind of thing out, but hopefully she can do it.

Sombrerero loco
Apr 4th, 2011, 08:23 PM
my gosh alize...

jiffster
Apr 6th, 2011, 07:24 PM
Anyone know why she does not play more doubles? It's a bit curious to me that she didn't play doubles in Miami or Charleston. Is her ranking not good enough to get her in the draws? In my opinion she needs as much match play as possible right now if she is going to improve, and doubles is one way to do that. Her last two "one-and-done" singles tournaments aren't going to do much for her confidence or match toughness. Maybe if she could at least play one more doubles match at these tournaments it would give her and her coach an opportunity to work on some things in match play situations?

jiffster
Apr 11th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Alize is on the roster for the Fed Cup matches against Spain this weekend. It's going to be a tough condition for the French team, playing in Spain on red clay against a group of Spanish clay court specialists. Alize beat Martinez Sanchez at this year's Aussie Open, but has lost both matches against her on clay. Alize's play in the last Fed Cup matches against Russia was promising, and I'm hoping for more good news this weekend!

Sombrerero loco
Apr 11th, 2011, 04:23 PM
i think alize and rezai will play the singles

HowardH
Apr 12th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Not the most promising singles players, form-wise. But you never know what will happen on court in fed cup, especially now that Alize actually has a fed cup singles win under her belt. Albeit in a heartbreaking losing effort.

jiffster
Apr 12th, 2011, 10:35 PM
I agree that on paper it doesn't look good for the French team. But you never know in FedCup what might happen. Clay is her favorite surface and maybe Alize will rise to the occasion and get a couple of big wins like we have been waiting awhile to see from her. It would be an upset for sure, but we can hope!

jiffster
Apr 15th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Alize will play doubles with Parmentier at FedCup. Razzano and Rezai will play the singles. I guess Razzano easily beating Alize in Miami a few weeks ago was a factor in the decision?

Sombrerero loco
Apr 15th, 2011, 12:06 PM
cornet should be playing instead of rezai :o

Dorien.
Apr 18th, 2011, 10:43 AM
(8)Cornet v Hlavackova
Safina v Craybas
Pivovarova v (wc)El Allami
Q v (2)Shvedova

Not an easy draw :o Hopefully she can win a match

HowardH
Apr 20th, 2011, 09:21 AM
On the verge of a win. 6-3 5-3 suspended due to darkness.

Sombrerero loco
Apr 20th, 2011, 12:29 PM
please win singles and doubles today^^

Renaud
Apr 20th, 2011, 02:47 PM
15-40*
deuce
break point
break
& 6-3 6-3

good job

jiffster
Apr 21st, 2011, 03:17 PM
Safina defeats Alize in Fes 6-1, 6-3. Not a surprise. Alize also lost in the first round in doubles yesterday. She was playing with Olaru and they were the number 2 seed. It doesn't seem like a switch to her favorite surface "clay" has improved her game. Escude obviously was not impressed with Alize at FedCup since he pretty much kept her on the bench until a meaningless final doubles match.

HowardH
Apr 21st, 2011, 04:14 PM
:sad: :hug:

Dorien.
Apr 21st, 2011, 05:55 PM
Alizé :hug:

améliemomo
Apr 21st, 2011, 07:13 PM
disgusting match from alize. She's back to her auto self destruction. Dont understand her poor behaviour. She entered the court as a loser and yes she lost. Logic outcome.

her actual coach doesnt suit her.

Langers
Apr 22nd, 2011, 09:24 AM
disgusting match from alize. She's back to her auto self destruction. Dont understand her poor behaviour. She entered the court as a loser and yes she lost. Logic outcome.

her actual coach doesnt suit her.
Very, very disappointing to hear. I hope she's not getting back to her old habits. The thing with Alize is that you can tell very early in a match how it'll end, she's either focussed and confident or she's self destructing and seemingly sulking therefore blowing any chance she had of winning. :( Needs to get her head in the game!!

Renaud
Apr 22nd, 2011, 06:05 PM
Escude obviously was not impressed with Alize at FedCup since he pretty much kept her on the bench until a meaningless final doubles match.
Safina it's not Lalami, Guskova or Dominguez Lino :rolleyes:

donellcarey
Apr 24th, 2011, 04:40 PM
No tournament for this week?

améliemomo
Apr 24th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Very, very disappointing to hear. I hope she's not getting back to her old habits. The thing with Alize is that you can tell very early in a match how it'll end, she's either focussed and confident or she's self destructing and seemingly sulking therefore blowing any chance she had of winning. :( Needs to get her head in the game!!

It's been 2 years since her fall began. I dont see her making any change in her way of behaving or thinking on the court. It seems like she doesnt care about what her coach was saying to her. And she thinks she can get back to the top 50 with such a negative spirit. :cuckoo:
Her game is nothing entertaining, more boring ever. But she keep playing far from the baseline with a passive game. On clay you HAVE TO be agressive and create. If not you'll get spanked.

it seems she'll play Madrid qualies david_williams...

Sombrerero loco
Apr 24th, 2011, 06:16 PM
yeah she will play in madrid, she won 30 points here last year^^

jiffster
Apr 26th, 2011, 01:31 AM
Wonder why she's not playing this week? She probably could have gotten into either Barcelona or Estoril without needing to qualify. I know they pick their schedules far in advance, but it seems like she could use the court time. She's playing both Madrid and Rome to prepare for the French Open. Not to be negative, but nothing I've seen from her lately makes me think she will win too many matches at either of these two tournaments. If I was her coach I'd want her to play this week.

Dorien.
Apr 28th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Her part of the Q draw in Madrid. Good luck :rocker:

(3)Alize Cornet (FRA) v (wc)Leticia Costas-Moreira (ESP)
Eleni Daniilidou (GRE) v (10)Chanelle Scheepers (RSA)

donellcarey
Apr 29th, 2011, 05:22 AM
Chanelle, hmm......

donellcarey
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:07 AM
Well, what can I say? She shud just skip these big tournaments and try out something smaller...

Dorien.
Apr 30th, 2011, 01:28 PM
Alizé :bigcry:

jiffster
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:20 PM
Well, what can I say? She shud just skip these big tournaments and try out something smaller...

I agree, except how much smaller does it get than losing to an unknown wildcard player in the first round of qualifying--on your favorite surface? Should we/she feel good about the fact that it was a close match? No, 2 years ago she would have won that match easily.
She has only two wins over seeded players so far this year (both low seeds), and has started the clay court season with just one win in her first four matches.
Now she heads to qualifying in Rome. This is a tournament she reached the finals in 2008, and now she will do well just to qualify for the tournament. If she qualified and won a few rounds it would be considered a great result for her right now.:sad:
If she wanted something smaller she could have played Estoril or Barcelona the week before, which she skipped. Besides, we were saying the same thing this time last year. Her game has not improved one bit from a year ago.
Until Alize gets her "head" right we will continue to see these results. Either her new coach has done nothing for her, or she is not listening to her coach. :confused:

améliemomo
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:25 PM
Well, what can I say? She shud just skip these big tournaments and try out something smaller...

no much more can be said. That's awful result. She's going nowhere right now. She should play challengers with the determination and willness of winning matches. The more she 's able to win. But right now she's playing the wrong way with very bad mental. She's back to her usual crappy mood and self destrutive mode.
she's at the place she accept to be. More efforts can be done but she doesnt do them thinking she'll be playing great level without sacrifices.

her actual schedule sucks.

améliemomo
Apr 30th, 2011, 04:38 PM
I agree, except how much smaller does it get than losing to an unknown wildcard player in the first round of qualifying--on your favorite surface? Should we/she feel good about the fact that it was a close match? No, 2 years ago she would have won that match easily.
She has only two wins over seeded players so far this year (both low seeds), and has started the clay court season with just one win in her first four matches.
Now she heads to qualifying in Rome. This is a tournament she reached the finals in 2008, and now she will do well just to qualify for the tournament. If she qualified and won a few rounds it would be considered a great result for her right now.:sad:
If she wanted something smaller she could have played Estoril or Barcelona the week before, which she skipped. Besides, we were saying the same thing this time last year. Her game has not improved one bit from a year ago.
Until Alize gets her "head" right we will continue to see these results. Either her new coach has done nothing for her, or she is not listening to her coach. :confused:

Agree with you about the lack of good choice with her schedule.
Why playing an useless tournament like Charleston???, losing the first round against a player she must beat easily on clay. Then go back in Europe losing french fed cup captain faith, not playing. Win a match at Fes and doing a "non math" against safina there. Then crashing
in Madrid first round qualies to an unknown spanish girl she beat 4 and 2 last year at barcelona??

The question is not to know if her coach is doing nothing for her or if she's listening to him. The main probleme is to know if she 's willing to change things up.
When I see her actual game today and the choices she made this year (schedule, coach, tactical )I think she 's going nowhere.Honestly.

HowardH
Apr 30th, 2011, 06:17 PM
Didn't think she would lose this one. I didn't remember that she beat this girl last year. I didn't recognise the girl's name, actually.

Alize's current tennis form must be terrible.

HowardH
May 2nd, 2011, 03:52 AM
Julia and Alize lost their doubles 2 and 3 to Nuria and Arantxa Parra Santonja. :hug: Madrid's already over for her.

Sombrerero loco
May 2nd, 2011, 09:11 PM
she played horrible in both singles and doubles, i was there.so horrible, really =(

Nena_xxx
May 3rd, 2011, 04:19 PM
Her results aren't getting better... :sad:

HowardH
May 9th, 2011, 04:43 AM
I guess no one wanted to put down the result against Nuria... :sad:

Sombrerero loco
May 9th, 2011, 08:45 AM
the only possitive thing is things just cant get worse :tape:

jiffster
May 16th, 2011, 03:30 PM
Alize was given a wild card in Strasbourg and will play Sania Mirza in the first round.

Sombrerero loco
May 16th, 2011, 08:12 PM
she won in doubles today
good luck tomorrow against mirza!

HowardH
May 17th, 2011, 10:29 AM
There are streams at livescorehunter. I'm watching this one.

http://www.livescorehunter.com/index.php?option=com_lsh&view=lsh&event_id=49245&tv_id=411&tid=6495&channel=0&tmpl=component&layout=popup&Itemid=286

Sombrerero loco
May 17th, 2011, 10:42 AM
4-3 cornet
please dont choke in the first set..

Sombrerero loco
May 17th, 2011, 11:03 AM
6-4 allez!!!!

Sombrerero loco
May 17th, 2011, 12:11 PM
5-1 in the third, allez alize..

Sombrerero loco
May 17th, 2011, 12:16 PM
allez alize!!!! 64 46 61!!

HowardH
May 17th, 2011, 01:07 PM
Well done Alize.

Sombrerero loco
May 17th, 2011, 05:43 PM
tomorrow against petrova, allez alize!!

Dorien.
May 18th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Well done :yeah:
She is playing the third set now against Petrova :cheer:

Sombrerero loco
May 18th, 2011, 01:09 PM
lets see if she has chances in the third, allez alize!!

Dorien.
May 18th, 2011, 02:58 PM
She lost :sad: But at least a tough battle :)

HowardH
May 18th, 2011, 04:20 PM
Nadia started playing well and Alize tried but could not win. At least she put up a fight.

Sombrerero loco
May 18th, 2011, 08:52 PM
she lost in doubles too =(

jiffster
May 20th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Alize has drawn Renata Voracova in the first round at Roland Garros. Possible second round opponent is Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova. Zvonareva and Schiavone (of course...she always seems to be in Alize's quarter) are also in her quarter of the draw. I like her chances in the first round, after that we can only hope that the French crowds and the "Grand Slam" atmosphere give her an emotional advantage!

Dorien.
May 20th, 2011, 04:11 PM
She should really win that first round. Not looking to the second round yet.

HowardH
May 20th, 2011, 04:28 PM
Go Alize.

Sombrerero loco
May 20th, 2011, 06:33 PM
please win a match...

Chakvenus
May 20th, 2011, 07:20 PM
She actually potentially has Kleybanova in R2, which I think we ALL can agree is a much better opponent than Pavlyuchenkova.

Nena_xxx
May 21st, 2011, 12:06 PM
GL Alize! :cheer:

Sombrerero loco
May 21st, 2011, 12:11 PM
first of all, lets see if she wins the first round...

Lachy
May 21st, 2011, 03:50 PM
Go Alize!!!! Get it done in R1.

Lachy
May 22nd, 2011, 07:50 AM
Playing tonight, and it will be streamed!! Allez. :aparty:

HowardH
May 22nd, 2011, 11:09 AM
http://www.livescorehunter.com/index.php?option=com_lsh&view=lsh&event_id=49813&tid=69836&channel=0&tmpl=component&layout=popup&Itemid=286

Alize won the first set 6-4.

Sombrerero loco
May 22nd, 2011, 11:23 AM
now 2-2 in the second, allez!!

TheEmpress
May 22nd, 2011, 11:29 AM
Even if she's winning , I'm not happy at all with her play. She is often late and her shot are even less powerful than usual. She has a poor shot-selection. Anyway she seems happy to be on the court and she is fighting but she'll have to improve her game and quickly

Sombrerero loco
May 22nd, 2011, 11:35 AM
4-2
allez!!!

TheEmpress
May 22nd, 2011, 11:37 AM
5-2. Some good backhand, but Voracova is awful :spit:

Sombrerero loco
May 22nd, 2011, 11:44 AM
64 62, well done alize!!!!
next up should be nuria llagostera

HowardH
May 22nd, 2011, 12:22 PM
Well done Alize.

5-2. Some good backhand, but Voracova is awful :spit:

Yes, Renata was not very consistent today. She beat Alize twice before on hard courts, where her flatter shots are more suitable, but today she was not very good.

Nuria is very beatable, but is comfortable on clay and consistent too.

TheEmpress
May 22nd, 2011, 12:29 PM
Well done Alize.



Yes, Renata was not very consistent today. She beat Alize twice before on hard courts, where her flatter shots are more suitable, but today she was not very good.

Nuria is very beatable, but is comfortable on clay and consistent too.

With this kind of performance , I don't see Alizé beat anyone who is consistent :tape:

Sombrerero loco
May 22nd, 2011, 12:39 PM
she lost to nuria 63 64 in rome so lets see if she can do it better here!allez!

Dorien.
May 22nd, 2011, 02:51 PM
Good to see her winning at least one match already :)

HowardH
May 23rd, 2011, 11:20 AM
Lol I just realised we just presumed her opponent would be Nuria when actually Nuria hadn't played Pivovarova yet. But it seems that presumption was pretty accurate.

Sombrerero loco
May 23rd, 2011, 11:25 AM
alize vs nuria allez!!!

jiffster
May 23rd, 2011, 07:04 PM
All wins in a Slam are good wins, and its nice to see her win a match she should at a big event. Bravo! Nuria is an excellent clay court player, but is very beatable if Alize can keep her patience and hit her shots. Despite the results in Rome, I like her chances in this one.

Boomer23
May 23rd, 2011, 08:24 PM
If she can control her nerves, she should be able to win the next one

Go alizé !

Temperenka
May 23rd, 2011, 08:38 PM
Please win!

HowardH
May 25th, 2011, 01:19 PM
Nuria is so tiny, but she played a bigger game than Alize today :sad:. Alize lost 0 and 2, and was constantly on the defensive. Well done to Nuria, she played good aggressive tennis.

Sombrerero loco
May 25th, 2011, 01:42 PM
just awful today alize =S

jiffster
May 25th, 2011, 02:44 PM
Yes, congrats to Nuria who is a tough little player on clay. I didn't see the match but the stats look pretty bad for Alize. 8 double faults on clay is pathetic, and it looks like she double-faulted away two games in the second set when she still had a chance to turn the match around. Winners were 26 to 7 in favor of Nuria, which shows that she just dominated the points, which is very surprising. I've watched Nuria play and she is very tiny, she should not be dominating the play like that against Alize. Alot of unforced errors for Alize as well.
Just another poor performance from Alize, losing again to a player she should have beat. Seems predictable now, it would almost be surprising to see her win a match like today at this point. I don't know what her coach is doing with her in practice, but it sure isn't visible on court.

améliemomo
May 25th, 2011, 07:51 PM
Yes, congrats to Nuria who is a tough little player on clay. I didn't see the match but the stats look pretty bad for Alize. 8 double faults on clay is pathetic, and it looks like she double-faulted away two games in the second set when she still had a chance to turn the match around. Winners were 26 to 7 in favor of Nuria, which shows that she just dominated the points, which is very surprising. I've watched Nuria play and she is very tiny, she should not be dominating the play like that against Alize. Alot of unforced errors for Alize as well.
Just another poor performance from Alize, losing again to a player she should have beat. Seems predictable now, it would almost be surprising to see her win a match like today at this point. I don't know what her coach is doing with her in practice, but it sure isn't visible on court.

she doesnt do much in practice. Better do some dumb interviews for the Press instand.:bs: She's going absolutly nowhere, in press conference she said it is not that an heavy loss, the score doesnt reflecting the match. That she 's only 21 and still have time to improve blablabla. She's lying to herself and blind about her actual poor level of tennis.

Today she has no serve, no forehand, nor any physical strengh to be able to defend hard like Wozniacki does. Even some juniors are better than her today and could beat her. But if you listen to her everything is OK. Can be worse... Really? Dont think so

Dorien.
May 25th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Not a good day :sad:

Sombrerero loco
May 25th, 2011, 08:43 PM
where is she playting next?
ameliemomo, i agree so much with you =S

jiffster
May 25th, 2011, 09:35 PM
Alize and Razzano lost in doubles today as well.

I watched Alize's interview on the Roland Garros site and I agree with améliemomo that it was disappointing to hear her attitude. She does not seem to be too upset, and thinks the match was much closer than the score. She also seems to be in denial about her poor play lately saying that 79 in the world is not that bad and she has a good life. That is the attitude of a loser, and someone who is not motivated to succeed. She just lost to a player outside the top 100 on her favorite surface at her home Grand Slam! Where is the passion, the disappointment...the anger? What was her game plan to beat Nuria? She says in the interview that Nuria was standing far inside the baseline and putting too much pressure on her, and that she was hitting the ball too short. She also mentions that she has no confidence, and needs to improve her game mentally. That's true for sure, but her serve is lousy and her shots have no depth. It's not all mental problems, she needs some serious help with her technique as well. If her coach is not helping improve her technique, or mental attitude or strategy...then what is he doing?

Maybe she just puts on a happy face for interviews, and deep inside she is more committed than she shows? If not, I don't see her getting past the first or second round of any tournament for the rest of the year.

Derek.
May 28th, 2011, 04:52 AM
That was an absolutely pathetic performance. :facepalm:

She should not be getting bossed around the court by someone like NLV, especially on her favorite surface.
She has no pace on her serve or her shots.

She's not even a shadow of her former self these days. :o

She's not getting any better and should be embarrassed. :shrug:

améliemomo
May 28th, 2011, 05:10 PM
Alize and Razzano lost in doubles today as well.

I watched Alize's interview on the Roland Garros site and I agree with améliemomo that it was disappointing to hear her attitude. She does not seem to be too upset, and thinks the match was much closer than the score. She also seems to be in denial about her poor play lately saying that 79 in the world is not that bad and she has a good life. That is the attitude of a loser, and someone who is not motivated to succeed. She just lost to a player outside the top 100 on her favorite surface at her home Grand Slam! Where is the passion, the disappointment...the anger? What was her game plan to beat Nuria? She says in the interview that Nuria was standing far inside the baseline and putting too much pressure on her, and that she was hitting the ball too short. She also mentions that she has no confidence, and needs to improve her game mentally. That's true for sure, but her serve is lousy and her shots have no depth. It's not all mental problems, she needs some serious help with her technique as well. If her coach is not helping improve her technique, or mental attitude or strategy...then what is he doing?


lift her bag and say AMEN to all bad temper she could give to him.:tape::help:
Never thought this guy could make a change to her cause he's just NOT hard enough towards her. Too kind and nice. She needs big kicking ass to make her work hard the way she has to. But Mademoiselle likes too much her comfort and training in south of France, at Nice. So AMEN to that, that means she's not really wanting to get back on top and make serious achievement. No more hope towards her with this "looser spirit". Some are born champions and some are NOT. Simple as that.

HowardH
May 29th, 2011, 07:05 AM
Is Nice considered just a comfortable place and not a serious place to train? Where do the majority of the top French players train? In Paris? Or does each player train in their own home city?

améliemomo
May 29th, 2011, 11:02 AM
Is Nice considered just a comfortable place and not a serious place to train? Where do the majority of the top French players train? In Paris? Or does each player train in their own home city?

Nice has a good training camp called Sophia Antipolis where Alize trained for years now. But we can see today that she gets worse and worse without trying anything new to get things back on track. When you are slumping that big you cant stay in your "comfort", that means act like you 've always acted. She clearly doesnt have the level to avoid playing ITF, but she doesnt play them. Taking a coach who is coming from her hometown Nice is chosing easyness you know, to be sure there wont be any difficulty about traveling with him all year.
There's no real place to train for the french players, some train in Paris, others in their home city. But in the alize case I dont think she 's showing she really wants to make sacrifices in her organisation, way of working. And today we saw where she stands: very weak game with absolutly no tactic.
She's lacking power and physical strengh. I dont see her improve that recently. She needs BIG WORK to do in that department.

Alizé Molik
May 30th, 2011, 05:46 AM
As always Amira you are entirely correct concerning the state of Alizé's game. I don't even recognise her on the court now. I first saw this kind of attitude in Paris this year, sitting in the stands before the match having fun with friends, then she comes out and gives a pathetic performance and it doesn't seem to matter to her. She gives these interviews that talk absolute crap about how great she's going and about the changes she's going to make to her game and nothing ever happens. It seems to me as you said, she is comfortable now in the few matches that she wins and she is enjoying her life on the tour. She is still treated like she is a promising player (especially in France) but in fact she has delivered on nothing that seemed to be going to happen in 08/09. She has become one of those players that others hope for in a draw as an easy first round. That is completely pathetic. It has been said before about Amelie and others, that in France the attiude is that it is bad to be the best, you should just do alright and be happy with that. It took Amelie many years to have the mental strength to overcome this and win but clearly Alizé has - a little like Gasquet - been distracted by everything else that is happening around her and is not focused on the tennis.

Langers
May 31st, 2011, 03:05 PM
I thought she was really starting to turn the corner after he impressive form at the Australian Open. But that 2R loss really was woeful, and to hear about her attitude isn't really encouraging. We can only hope that she inside knows how much she has to improve to return to where she was. I used to love her game so much, so creative, so smart, she would leave it all out there. What's happened? She is still so young, so plenty of time, but not much seems to be changing. :(

jiffster
Jun 1st, 2011, 02:37 AM
Alize is listed in the draw for Birmingham. Glad to see that she's at least "appearing" to make an attempt at the grass courts. Last year she did not play any matches on grass until Wimbledon, and that was a little hard to understand. The only positive thing about the next month is that she has only 6 points to defend, and she'll get 5 just for showing up at Wimbledon. Last year she went to the ITF in Marseille, on clay, where she is more comfortable (skipping the grass court warm-ups) and lost badly in the first round to Caroline Garcia -- who looks like a promising player now. Even a couple wins on grass should improve her ranking, though it is hard to be too optimistic at the moment.

Alizé Molik
Jun 1st, 2011, 08:43 AM
The thing is, if she were serious about improving her ranking, you would expect her to be playing a schedule that was loaded with clay court events. In reality she played the bare minimum this summer which leads me to believe she's not that serious about tennis.

améliemomo
Jun 2nd, 2011, 12:28 PM
well she has time you know, she's just 21...

Hrstae
Jun 5th, 2011, 10:52 AM
Alla Kudryavtseva for first match @Birmingham

jiffster
Jun 6th, 2011, 03:06 PM
One and done again for Alize, she loses in the first round to Kudryavtseva 7-6, 6-1 in Birmingham. Didn't see the match, but we all know how it went. :sad:

Sombrerero loco
Jun 6th, 2011, 06:17 PM
expected :o

Dorien.
Jun 6th, 2011, 06:44 PM
Alizé :sad:

HowardH
Jun 8th, 2011, 10:28 PM
Damn.

HowardH
Jun 11th, 2011, 04:43 PM
Alize lost in Eastbourne qualies, 4 and 2 to Anne Keothavong. Only positive: she won a decent amount behind her first serve. But struggled behind the second serve, and also struggled to make an impact on Anne's first or second serve.

Dorien.
Jun 11th, 2011, 06:06 PM
Excepted again. I guess.

Sombrerero loco
Jun 11th, 2011, 06:09 PM
oh my good awful losing 4 and 2 to keothavong =S

Pax
Jun 17th, 2011, 11:42 AM
Wimbledon 1st round
Alizé - Kateryna Bondarenko

Hrstae
Jun 17th, 2011, 03:34 PM
No direspect for Bondarenko but it's playable(as the previous matchs ... and we all know the end) ! I think anyway that alizé will have to review everything ... She is able to achieve it's best and much more, but there are lot of work !
Otherwise what a waste (with such potential).

HowardH
Jun 20th, 2011, 09:54 PM
First set 7-5 to Kateryna. Rained off, rescheduled for the next day.

HowardH
Jun 21st, 2011, 03:49 PM
lost 5 and 2

Sombrerero loco
Jun 21st, 2011, 04:23 PM
no comments :facepalm:

Temperenka
Jun 21st, 2011, 05:40 PM
Good luck in the next tournament, Alize :sad:

Alizé Molik
Jun 22nd, 2011, 04:04 AM
rien de nouveau.

leftyness
Jun 29th, 2011, 08:12 PM
After a poor grass court season (3 straight sets losses), I'm glad to see her back on the win trail in Cuneo, besting Sandra Zahlavova 6-1 3-6 6-3.:)

Sombrerero loco
Jun 29th, 2011, 08:15 PM
not an impressive match but a victory is a victory, allez!

HowardH
Jun 30th, 2011, 01:43 AM
Keep getting back on the horse Alize.

Alizé Molik
Jun 30th, 2011, 02:46 AM
tough first round match but she did it which is good. It is still going to take a total game change up and more focus, intensity and aggression before we see her going up the rankings. It's not enough to push her way to a few 100k SF and then go back to the tour.

leftyness
Jun 30th, 2011, 09:26 PM
Another win.:)

(1)Alize Cornet (FRA) d. (Q)Eva Fernandez-Brugues (ESP) 61 62

Stefanie Voegele awaits in the quarters, but Alize is 2:0 lifetime against her. :D.

Nena_xxx
Jun 30th, 2011, 09:58 PM
Finally something nice about her tennis... :cheer:

Sombrerero loco
Jun 30th, 2011, 10:20 PM
please destroy voegele tomorrow!!

HowardH
Jul 1st, 2011, 01:50 PM
Good luck Alize.

leftyness
Jul 1st, 2011, 04:32 PM
Voegele Stefanie - Cornet Alize 6-3 6-1, not very impressive. :help:

Bĺstad next week for Alize...

Sombrerero loco
Jul 1st, 2011, 04:43 PM
:facepalm:

HowardH
Jul 2nd, 2011, 05:09 AM
Alize :sad:.

leftyness
Jul 2nd, 2011, 09:07 PM
Alize draws C-Woz 1st round in Bastad:help:

Sombrerero loco
Jul 3rd, 2011, 09:33 AM
T_t

améliemomo
Jul 3rd, 2011, 04:17 PM
good for her. She'll perhaps realize how far from the best players she is right now. Cornet acting like she's still matter but losing 3 and 1 to Voegele is just :facepalm::no:

Go Caro!

Zin
Jul 3rd, 2011, 06:13 PM
Why does Alizé not play in Budapest as she always does ? She would have been seeded there.

saint2
Jul 4th, 2011, 12:46 AM
Go Caro!


Yep !!! Go Caro ! Just like at '07 USO !!! :bounce::bounce:

BTW- anyonne remembers that? For me it is just like yesterday...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

améliemomo
Jul 4th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Yep !!! Go Caro ! Just like at '07 USO !!! :bounce::bounce:

BTW- anyonne remembers that? For me it is just like yesterday...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

yeah dont you feel the same feeling of "wasted opportunity" concerning Cornet?
in 2007, Woz and Alize were at the same level, little Advantage for alize, but Caro worked so hard to become the player she is today. World n°1.
Cornet worked but not that hard and is not as solid mentally. And the worst is that she's dellusional about her atual poor level of play. She tries to convince herself she can compete with the best but it's wrong!it's just words she say like that without believe in it. That's her reality today. And I dont see her getting any better soon unless some personal revolution but very doubtful about such a "scenario";

the girl thinks she can get back to top20 without BIG, HUGE sacrifices. One did them(Caro) and the other didnt(Alize), One IS a champion, the other NOT. One work with the best fitness trainer, the other not.

Tennis is about work but especially about self-belief. Woz believes in herself, Alize Not.

HowardH
Jul 5th, 2011, 09:42 PM
She lost 4 and 4. I only saw the last two games. She broke Caro at 5-3, saving two MPs at 40-15, and then she went down 0-40 serving at 4-5, saved one when Caro missed a terrible smash, but doublefaulted to lose the match.

Didn't see enough of it to comment much. Score is not too bad though. Seemed as though when she was accurate with the dropshot it paid off against Caro- but she probably wasn't accurate enough times.

saint2
Jul 5th, 2011, 09:43 PM
Tennis is about work but especially about self-belief. Woz believes in herself, Alize Not.


Shit, if Alize had better service, she would have win today :rolleyes::rolleyes:. Caro played garbage, yet managed to win 4 and 4 each set by one break (or maybe should I say by one hold ).

HowardH
Jul 5th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Looking at the stats I see that Alize held only once the entire match and won only 30% of serving points. I.e. she was broken 9 times.

Caro won only 44% of serving points and was broken 7 times, holding only 3 times.

Unfortunately Alize's serve has been an issue for a while.

Sombrerero loco
Jul 5th, 2011, 10:03 PM
it really looks like a horrible performance, but not a bad scoreline =S

saint2
Jul 5th, 2011, 10:04 PM
On a positive way- she didn't quit after losing first set , like she did last month against any given player- in fact she played much better in 2nd than in 1st- but maybe it was bc she faced no preassure this time- it was Caro who was star of the night and it was her game to win.

BTW- why did she played Bastard this year ? But its OK- not that she would do anything in Budapest with her current form, and maybe close, respectable loss against current #1 will do more positive things to her confidence, than another 6-4 6-2 against noone.

leftyness
Jul 6th, 2011, 12:43 AM
I saw the tail end of set 1, and all of set 2. She did show spirit to come back from 0-2 down to lead 3-2, with a break, but her serve was woeful to watch.

améliemomo
Jul 6th, 2011, 08:54 AM
Shit, if Alize had better service, she would have win today :rolleyes::rolleyes:. Caro played garbage, yet managed to win 4 and 4 each set by one break (or maybe should I say by one hold ).

sorry man but if you cant hold your serve and serve at a decent % to save your life YOU SUCK BIG. Caro didnt play good but when she has to get ahead she managed to do so. Cornet serve is pure shit, she just cant hope to win matchs with such an "inexistent" strike. the game start with this shot, if you're not able to make it, your game wont be well balanced, you'll lose uunless if you're name is Elena Dementieva and Cornet has not the same mental strengh:rolleyes::rolleyes:

saint2
Jul 6th, 2011, 04:19 PM
sorry man but if you cant hold your serve and serve at a decent % to save your life YOU SUCK BIG. Caro didnt play good but when she has to get ahead she managed to do so. Cornet serve is pure shit, she just cant hope to win matchs with such an "inexistent" strike. the game start with this shot, if you're not able to make it, your game wont be well balanced, you'll lose uunless if you're name is Elena Dementieva and Cornet has not the same mental strengh:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Its just what I told- it was the worst service game I've ever seen. If she had half decent service, she would win this game because Caro played total crap. Today Im rooting for Caro first time in my life, because if she is losing to Arvidson, it would be clear to me that she is tanking this tournament, and Alize wasn't able to capitalize tanking Caro.

BTW- Elena wasn't mentaly strong as well. She didn't whine, cry, complain and swear, like Alize did, but I've watched many meltdowns by her :lol::lol::lol:

améliemomo
Jul 6th, 2011, 06:24 PM
caro lost today, 6-2 0-1 ret with a shoulder injury:tape:

cornet case is desperate.:o

saint2
Jul 7th, 2011, 06:59 PM
My match against Wozniacki has generally been pretty good. What I regret most is not having kept a consistent enough to confirm the break in advance that I had in both sets. There were some very good sequences of play, but I left the game on some points among the two sets and it does not forgive at this level.
Caroline is very strong, defended well and the game is at times or it must be! It's reassuring for me to see that in terms of level of play, I'm not far at all! For a long time that I had not played against a top 10 player, it is always rewarding and it highlights all the things I still have to work. Now my thoughts turn to Bad Gastein, a tournament that I was rather a lucky so far, with two semi-finals in 2009 and 2010. Before that, I play two games per team in Germany tomorrow and Sunday, which makes me do two more singles matches to be well prepared for Bad Gastein. Then I give myself two weeks vacation, which will not be luxury! "

Shit, You've lost against player who either was tanking or played injured (maybe both)...Stop deluding Yourself...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

améliemomo
Jul 8th, 2011, 05:34 PM
yes that 's what I said.:rolleyes:

----> desperate case. She's not able to face it. The "incident" with her phone ring at the end of this shitty game shows how much she is NOT acting as a professional player. she's more a tourist like or a journey woman today.

jiffster
Jul 9th, 2011, 04:54 PM
At this point she obviously does not have the right kind of support around her. No decent coach would let her get away with thinking that she was "not that far away" from being able to compete with the top players. When you can't hold serve, you are not going to win. Period. If Alize thinks that not being blown off the court by a Caroline who was playing at about 50 percent of her potential, while losing almost all of her own service games is a "positive sign", then that shows how delusional she is right now.

I'm a big fan of Elena Dementieva, but she was notorious for being mentally weak in the big moments. Remember the 2004 French Open final against Myskina? When she first started, her serve was a weapon but somewhere along the way that changed. Still her groundstrokes were a lot more solid than Alize's and she was a hard worker. Her practice sessions were pretty intense and her fitness level was top notch. If Alize would emulate Elena's work ethic and commitment to the game, she'd be a step closer to getting back to where she once was.

Philchaz63
Jul 10th, 2011, 09:05 AM
http://dtb.liga.nu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/TennisLeagueDTB.woa/wa/championship?championship=BL+2006

Alizé d. Nina Bratchikova 6/4 7/6 (4) yesterday in the german tennis league. She seems to play A. Kerber today.

edit : in fact, it was Edina Gallotivs, Alizé won 6-1 6-1 :)

HowardH
Jul 12th, 2011, 04:06 PM
It's nice that Alize was able to win some interclub matches. However in tournament play her woes continue- she just lost 7-6(3) 6-2 to Ksenia Pervak.

Pervak was only winning 50% of serving points and Alize broke her 5 times.
However Alize only won 41% of serving points and lost her serve 7 times. Winning percentage on second serve was particularly poor (24%, as compared to 43% for Pervak). 11 doublefaults. But even on the first serve she was only winning 50%.

Alize is making a good case to allow players to have three serves, instead of just two. Maybe then she could hold serve.

I wonder if she actually played better in those interclub matches or were her opponents just woeful?

jiffster
Jul 12th, 2011, 06:15 PM
Her serve is just a disaster. 11 double faults, 24% winning percentage on second serve, broken 7 times in 10 service games. All on clay, her "favorite surface" at a tournament where she has performed well the last two years. Her rankings will take a big hit (deservedly), and she should drop back into the mid eighties.

Sombrerero loco
Jul 12th, 2011, 09:04 PM
she was *5-3, but after that, just awful performance. new low, alize :facepalm:

Sombrerero loco
Jul 19th, 2011, 04:21 PM
next tournament for alize?

Philchaz63
Aug 2nd, 2011, 06:57 PM
I think this is the issue we all are thinking about..... Where and when ?

abi
Aug 3rd, 2011, 11:05 AM
Yeah, no news or whatsoever. Is she gonna play any tourny before USO?

jiffster
Aug 7th, 2011, 05:16 PM
Alize has split with her coach Laurent Orsini. Good news since he hasn't seemed to help her at all this year. Her website says she will be playing in Cincinnati and Dallas prior to the US Open. Looks like she may go into the Open coachless, just like last year.

Philchaz63
Aug 9th, 2011, 06:27 PM
Alizé is 1st Alt. at Cincinnati

Tuckii
Aug 13th, 2011, 11:08 AM
Alize plays Sofia Arvidssoon in Qualifying First Round in Cincinnati :unsure:

Go girl! :cheer:

HowardH
Aug 13th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Bon courage Alize!

jiffster
Aug 14th, 2011, 01:38 AM
Alize lost her qualifying round match today to Arvidsson 6-1, 6-3 :sad:

HowardH
Aug 14th, 2011, 06:40 AM
:sad:

But unfortunately kind of expected.

Sombrerero loco
Aug 14th, 2011, 10:31 AM
what a scoreline :help:

améliemomo
Aug 14th, 2011, 01:14 PM
expected loss.

Coming there without any preparation, any confidence nor coach.

She's not acting as a true professional player. Better retire cause she's not competing anymore.
She doesnt seem to care so stop it, it would make more sense than what she's showing now.

Dorien.
Aug 14th, 2011, 10:00 PM
That's not good :sad:

jiffster
Aug 15th, 2011, 04:23 PM
Anyone know why Alize split with her coach? Did she fire him? If so then maybe she is still serious about the sport. He did nothing for her.

However, if he quit because of her poor attitude and work ethic...then that is a different story.

I hope that she dumped him, and will replace him with a coach that will restructure her approach to the game, improve her awful serve, and get her back to playing the mentally tough and creative game that she used to play. A lot to ask, but she is still very young and can still get back to the top twenty if she really commits and works hard.

améliemomo
Aug 15th, 2011, 07:56 PM
she gives no fair reason to that split except that she "feels the need to walk alone for some time":help:
what does it means seriously? No matter really if she split by herself or not. She is the only responsable of her actual situation. She chose that man as the one who was supposed to get her back on track.
Except a third round in the AO she's still the same player as she was for more than 2 years now. She plays awful tennis and dont see her make the right decisions to change that. So no I dont agree, the problem is not the coach but herself.

And to be honest about a future coach I dont see who will want to work with her cause she sets her own conditions. (working at her rythme on south of france, someone to travel with her all year long, someone VERY VERY patient cause she doesnt listen to what he has to say...)
Talking about commitment, dont know if she really want to make sacrifices and work hard and so take out from her comfort.

If so she wouldnt have chosen that man at the end of last year. Poor guy I feel for him cause she 's not easy to coach. Dont see her getting back at the ranking she had. Not the right spirit to do so.:shrug:

Sombrerero loco
Aug 16th, 2011, 01:13 PM
she will be a bye in the us open....

jiffster
Aug 21st, 2011, 05:55 PM
Alize will play Julia Goerges in the first round of the Texas Tennis Open in Dallas. Alize lost to her in Aukland at the beginning of the season. Goerges has had a couple of bad losses since Wimbledon, but beat Jankovic in her last tournament. The last time Alize won a match on hard courts was against Pironkova at Indian Wells. Its hard to give Alize much of a chance of winning the match, but lets hope for a good showing.

Sombrerero loco
Aug 21st, 2011, 08:07 PM
she wont win even a set...=( unfortunately...

Archaeo
Aug 22nd, 2011, 03:37 AM
Alizé lost 6-0 4-6 0-6 :fiery: It seemed like things were looking up when Goerges couldn't serve out the second, but alas... :o

Any word on a new coach? :tape:

Dorien.
Aug 22nd, 2011, 05:57 AM
:sad:

HowardH
Aug 22nd, 2011, 09:19 AM
Alize :sad:. She needed this more than Julia, who has been rising.

I can't read anything into the first set win, or even the opportunity in the second set, because Julia is a very up and down player who probably lost the first set all by herself.

Sombrerero loco
Aug 22nd, 2011, 10:08 AM
what a scoreline :spit: crazy match for sure

jiffster
Aug 25th, 2011, 07:07 PM
Alize will play Casey Dellacqua in the first round of the US Open. It is the first time they will play each other. A winnable match...but who knows what will happen at this point. After that the draw gets tougher with Vinci a possible second round opponent, and Petkovic or Zheng in the third -- very wishful thinking to think she could get that far!

Sombrerero loco
Aug 25th, 2011, 07:09 PM
really winnable but i dont think she can defeat dellacqua right now...allez alize!

Dorien.
Aug 25th, 2011, 07:57 PM
:shrug:

Archaeo
Aug 26th, 2011, 01:31 AM
You couldn't really ask for a better first round :shrug: Hopefully she can get herself together and take advantage.

Allez! :rocker2:

HowardH
Aug 28th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Btw, I know it's only doubles, but Alize and Pauline were runners-up in the doubles final in Dallas this week.

Casey is very beatable right now.

Sombrerero loco
Aug 28th, 2011, 06:20 PM
she should beat casey, yeah...

jiffster
Aug 30th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Alize is the fourth match on Court 15 today...this is a win she really needs. Getting to the second round would give her a nice improvement in points over last year's first round loss to Kanepi. She could really use it because she's got some points to defend in September in Sofia and Saint Malo. If she wants to finish the year in the top 100, she really needs to win this match. Allez!

HowardH
Aug 31st, 2011, 01:30 PM
She won :drool:.

Langers
Aug 31st, 2011, 02:05 PM
Great win! :D

And with her draw, she could even win again. :yeah:

améliemomo
Aug 31st, 2011, 06:08 PM
Hum dont expect too much, this is cornet here:o:help:

the real test will be next round against Vinci. If she win it you can see some good and positive signs from her. If not well... she 's her.

jiffster
Sep 1st, 2011, 02:41 AM
I agree, a win against Vinci would be impressive but not likely. Vinci has beaten Wozniacki and Ivanovic this summer and will be a lot tougher than Dellacqua.

They are the first match on court 13 tomorrow. As always I don't understand why she didn't enter the doubles. She did well last week...

améliemomo
Sep 1st, 2011, 09:59 AM
I agree, a win against Vinci would be impressive but not likely. Vinci has beaten Wozniacki and Ivanovic this summer and will be a lot tougher than Dellacqua.

They are the first match on court 13 tomorrow. As always I don't understand why she didn't enter the doubles. She did well last week...

it's been a long time I gave up about trying to understand cornet choices cause there's no logic in them.:silly:
always the same "she could but she wont".

Sombrerero loco
Sep 1st, 2011, 10:47 AM
please alize win a set :lol:

améliemomo
Sep 1st, 2011, 05:41 PM
you dream my friend:lol:

lost 2 and 3. Too inconsistent.She had good reaction at 0-2 second set, winning 3 consecutive games. Then she went back to her average level, the one of her actual ranking of 92. Against top20 you have to play very well in consistent basis. She didnt.

Better go and take some points and confidence in itf now.

jiffster
Sep 1st, 2011, 05:49 PM
Alize lost to Vinci 6-2, 6-3. Watched most of the match on the live feed. She was completely outplayed in the first set, Vinci dictated the pace and frustrated Alize with low slices.
Early in the second set Alize sprung to life and played three dominant games where she looked like the player of old. She was very aggressive, great court coverage and hit some beautiful shots and points. Serving at 3-2 she had the momentum and a real chance to take control of the set. But for some reason she stopped being aggressive, and Vinci broke right back.
After that it got ugly. Alize lost her temper, tried to break her racket, and was mentally done. Its hard to understand how she can so quickly go (a matter of minutes) from looking so dominant and confident to so mentally unhinged.
She showed flashes of great play during the match, looked physically fit, and at times her serving was pretty effective. But just as quickly her poor serve got her into trouble, and her lack of aggressiveness lost her points. Opposing players get way too many break opportunities against her, and that just puts too much pressure on Alize. Mentally she is way too fragile to compete at this level. I'm sure its frustrating for her to continually lose matches like this, but professionals just don't melt down this way. Unless she can get her head right, the mechanics of her game don't really matter.
You could see today that she still has the potential to be a good player, but all the same old issues keep popping up. She needs a strong coach who will tell her what she doesn't want to hear and work with her on her mental approach to the game. If someone can help her get mentally fit, and improve the mechanics of her serve there is still hope for her as a player. If not, then we have already seen the best of her career.

Sombrerero loco
Sep 1st, 2011, 09:09 PM
any ideas of her schedule for september guys??

Alizé Molik
Sep 5th, 2011, 04:28 AM
remember in 06/07 when we would say she was so tough to beat and mentally strong? I wish we could go back to those days.

Sombrerero loco
Sep 5th, 2011, 09:25 AM
100k biella this week i think, good luck

Dorien.
Sep 7th, 2011, 08:11 PM
She won first round in Biella 3-6 6-1 6-1. Not a great scoreline but at least she won

Sombrerero loco
Sep 7th, 2011, 08:21 PM
well she lost that first set but then she was nice it seems, keep going!!playing tomorrow?

jiffster
Sep 8th, 2011, 12:10 AM
She is the second match on grandstand tomorrow. Plays M. CHAKHNASHVILI (GEO).

améliemomo
Sep 8th, 2011, 10:05 AM
well she lost that first set but then she was nice it seems, keep going!!playing tomorrow?

nice? Cornet is not nice at all. She played pure crap as usual against Thorpes who was overpowering her. She did nothing with the ball and only benefit on her opponent errors. Her behaviour was even worst on the court, yelling, shouting to the ball boys. Her serve and forehand are still so weak as her attitude. She won today cause it was against an even more bad player than her. If it was a top100 player she would have lost in straight sets.
She's still the same and I dont see her going that far in this draw:rolleyes:

jiffster
Sep 8th, 2011, 05:39 PM
nice? Cornet is not nice at all. She played pure crap as usual against Thorpes who was overpowering her. She did nothing with the ball and only benefit on her opponent errors. Her behaviour was even worst on the court, yelling, shouting to the ball boys. Her serve and forehand are still so weak as her attitude. She won today cause it was against an even more bad player than her. If it was a top100 player she would have lost in straight sets.
She's still the same and I dont see her going that far in this draw:rolleyes:

Unfortunately correct, she lost today to 214 ranked CHAKHNASHVILI 6-0, 7-5 on her "favorite" surface clay. CHAKHNASHVILI is a career ITF'er, has very few main Tour matches and even fewer main Tour wins.

Sombrerero loco
Sep 8th, 2011, 05:55 PM
OMFG no words for that result :facepalm: 6-0....

améliemomo
Sep 8th, 2011, 07:03 PM
Unfortunately correct, she lost today to 214 ranked CHAKHNASHVILI 6-0, 7-5 on her "favorite" surface clay. CHAKHNASHVILI is a career ITF'er, has very few main Tour matches and even fewer main Tour wins.

well just too predictable this girl is. You watched her match against Thorpe in R1??she's clearly playing like a club player, surely NOT a professional one. But this loss against Chaknashvilli is probably the worst of all. Got bagelled by this girl shows how bad Cornet is playing.
AND above all that, she left a message on her official website saying she was not in bad situation at all and can start her itf campaign proud:help:

omg will this girl understand that she has so many weaknesses in her game that she must work hardly to get back to life and look like a top player again?she's so annoyingly immature.

I said it for quite a long time now, she needs a real coach who will not be nice to her and make her work HARD. Like it or Not. A tough coach but she wont make that choice cause she thinks she doesnt need it. she's still the same alize cornet who was top20, near top10.

So she'll stay like that an average player top90-150 level all her career except if one day she'll get a brain, be courageous and face the reality.

Dorien.
Sep 8th, 2011, 09:17 PM
:sad:

Sombrerero loco
Sep 9th, 2011, 02:19 AM
well just too predictable this girl is. You watched her match against Thorpe in R1??she's clearly playing like a club player, surely NOT a professional one. But this loss against Chaknashvilli is probably the worst of all. Got bagelled by this girl shows how bad Cornet is playing.
AND above all that, she left a message on her official website saying she was not in bad situation at all and can start her itf campaign proud:help:

omg will this girl understand that she has so many weaknesses in her game that she must work hardly to get back to life and look like a top player again?she's so annoyingly immature.

I said it for quite a long time now, she needs a real coach who will not be nice to her and make her work HARD. Like it or Not. A tough coach but she wont make that choice cause she thinks she doesnt need it. she's still the same alize cornet who was top20, near top10.

So she'll stay like that an average player top90-150 level all her career except if one day she'll get a brain, be courageous and face the reality.

sad but true, i agree so much....but i dont think it will change soon because she thinks everything is ok :help:

HowardH
Sep 9th, 2011, 08:16 AM
She surely knows that her situation requires a lot of work and a lot of improvements and changes in her game, her training, her life. Unless she is deluding herself. Maybe she is deluding herself.

améliemomo
Sep 9th, 2011, 10:00 AM
I really think she is Howard. Not wanting to face reality the hard way cause it would mean she accepts the fact she did wrong.

More than 2 years, soon 3 years now she's been slumping. I dont see any big improvement in her game nor any determination to change it or something. It is even worse than before, especially her forehand. And always the same bad attitude on the court, acting like a brat, a junior cursing,yelling all over the place. Very annoying to watch and all the tour knows how hysteric she can be.:tape::help:

I dont see her change as far as she earn money and still has sponsor contracts to make her live. She's not a true champion despite all she thinks she is. True champions not behaving like she is, always complaining about how hard it is to be on the tour blablabla. True champions are working hard always trying to improve and you'll never hear them complain.

If it is so tough for her to work and make sacrifice why even bother more? Better stop cause she's going nowhere. Very deluding herself there, poor girl...

Tenisci
Sep 12th, 2011, 11:39 AM
Sofia

Singles and Doubles w/Senoglu

Sombrerero loco
Sep 12th, 2011, 08:28 PM
easy first round against a wc please win this alize!!

Dorien.
Sep 13th, 2011, 07:07 PM
She won her first match in singles :yeah:

jiffster
Sep 13th, 2011, 10:48 PM
6-1, 6-2 was the score line. She plays Olaru next, a much tougher opponent.

Sombrerero loco
Sep 13th, 2011, 11:41 PM
well olaru is on a huge slump right now, so alize should defeat her in straight sets too

jiffster
Sep 13th, 2011, 11:53 PM
Yes, she "should" beat Olaru...but will she? :confused:
Alize is 0-2 lifetime against her, both matches went to three sets.

Sombrerero loco
Sep 14th, 2011, 12:04 AM
one of them was in wimbledon and we know alize sucks so much on grass...