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RFS
Jan 1st, 2008, 09:39 AM
Hey all
As our off topic/off season thread proved to be soooo popular - I thought it might be worth setting up a proper one for JJ forum posters as the season gets underway!

Basically - if it doesn't fit in any of the other threads (Important or otherwise!) then it can live here!!!

Enjoy!

James
Nov 14th, 2010, 11:32 AM
Volume 1 (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=326943)
Episode 2 (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=350547)
Episode 3 (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=379067)

RFS
Nov 14th, 2010, 11:42 AM
Oh My god - we DO randomly mutter a lot :worship:

Slutiana
Nov 14th, 2010, 11:55 AM
:bigclap: Jeja would be proud.

Bobisa
Nov 14th, 2010, 12:07 PM
:worship:

Safe-From-Harm
Nov 14th, 2010, 12:20 PM
Again fro FlameOn:
why is she on yours dislike list?

Instead of that we need to beat You. Then You can join the despereate club. :D

Slutiana
Nov 14th, 2010, 10:11 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=421725

VOTE LEPA.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8075/jjump.gif

Caralenko
Nov 15th, 2010, 04:16 AM
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=421725

VOTE LEPA.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8075/jjump.gif

Wasn't enough. :tears:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 15th, 2010, 06:47 AM
Lepa :hug: :(

ivanban
Nov 15th, 2010, 09:37 AM
I was late to vote for lepa :hysteric:

Bobisa
Nov 15th, 2010, 10:15 AM
Lepa :hug:

Just Do It
Nov 15th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Lepa :(

Jankarenka
Nov 16th, 2010, 04:10 PM
My 1000th post dedicated to JAJA

may this bring luck to lady egg by god she needs it :sad:

Renalicious
Nov 17th, 2010, 04:54 AM
Congrats ^. :speakles:

And Lepa :sad: I didn't know this poster very well but sad to see a Jeca fan go.

-NAJ-
Nov 18th, 2010, 05:09 AM
Australian Fans, did you hear :lol:
:singer:

Ceca Australian Tour 2010
http://tekstovi-pesama.com/g_img/1/1837/ceca-10.jpg
Perth, 3 December
Sydney, 4 December
Adelaide, 10 December
Melbourne, 11 December
Brisbane, 12 December


it looks like mixed up AO Series schedule :lol:

Renalicious
Nov 18th, 2010, 10:49 AM
:sobbing: Perth, my hometown.

Just Do It
Nov 18th, 2010, 11:46 AM
I've heard Ceca will have a strong police and private security around her because some Bosnian and Croat group said they might try to attack her :happy:

-NAJ-
Nov 18th, 2010, 11:54 AM
:lol:I doubt but you never know with crazy people;)

Btw She will aslo have concert in Macedonia Skoplje:worship: Two days in a row in "Boris Trajkovski Arena":bigclap:

Renalicious
Nov 18th, 2010, 12:15 PM
LOL :sobbing:

ce
Nov 18th, 2010, 04:54 PM
lol

Just Do It
Nov 18th, 2010, 05:57 PM
Popularity contest is getting dramatic ...

MaBaker
Nov 18th, 2010, 07:17 PM
Slutty singer on the first page, it's truly brilliant :worship:

Just Do It
Nov 18th, 2010, 07:30 PM
Slutty singer on the first page, it's truly brilliant :worship:

Do you think Martin will attend her concert in Brisbane ?

MaBaker
Nov 18th, 2010, 07:36 PM
^I don't know, I think he doesn't like her, but I'm not sure.

Brena
Nov 19th, 2010, 01:00 AM
Do you think Martin will attend her concert in Brisbane ?

Nooo, he hates Ceca. he calls her najveća srpska seljančura. :lol:

Oh, and I've just found out about this thread, I didn't realise a new volume was opened. Thank you for the support in the popularity contest! :inlove::inlove::inlove:
Losing to someone as annoying as The BoiledEgg was a bit discouraging, I must admit. :crying2: I hope other jankobithes are going strong.

Renalicious
Nov 19th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Thanks for your votes. :rocker2: Last night was very dramatic.

Jajaloo
Nov 19th, 2010, 11:25 AM
Ceca in Concert in Melbourne :hysteric:

No Jelena Karleuša?

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 19th, 2010, 11:56 AM
Popularity contest is getting dramatic ...

Thanks for betraying.:p

Thanks guys for the votes.:eek: :worship: :cheer:

Just Do It
Nov 19th, 2010, 04:12 PM
Ceca in Concert in Melbourne :hysteric:

No Jelena Karleuša?

I just went through Ceca Australian tour fan page on FB. Australians ( with Balkan heritage ) are furious Ceca will have a concert in some small arena in Sydney and because concerts will be 18+ only. WTF ? :rolls:

RFS
Nov 20th, 2010, 07:38 AM
Oh my god - me and a mate visiting from the US were playing Wii Grand Slam Tennis - we played as Nole/Edberg against Virtual Henin/Ivanovic... and the bitches suddenly developed skills at the net!
So last night we tried again as Murray/Hewitt - and FINALLY won after Deuce/Ad/Deuce/Ad games that would make the WTA weep!!!

Sheeesh!

MaBaker
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:15 PM
Oh my god - me and a mate visiting from the US were playing Wii Grand Slam Tennis - we played as Nole/Edberg against Virtual Henin/Ivanovic... and the bitches suddenly developed skills at the net!
So last night we tried again as Murray/Hewitt - and FINALLY won after Deuce/Ad/Deuce/Ad games that would make the WTA weep!!!

Sheeesh!
lol

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:18 PM
:scared: Pop contest.

Brena
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:26 PM
Oh my god - me and a mate visiting from the US were playing Wii Grand Slam Tennis - we played as Nole/Edberg against Virtual Henin/Ivanovic... and the bitches suddenly developed skills at the net!
So last night we tried again as Murray/Hewitt - and FINALLY won after Deuce/Ad/Deuce/Ad games that would make the WTA weep!!!

Sheeesh!

You should have tried with JJ/Wozniacki. Those two couldn't develope any net skills even in virtual reality...

MaBaker
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:35 PM
:scared: Pop contest.
You are playing against a Jankobitch, so no vote. Play a puppy or a Wozwoz fan next time http://i56.tinypic.com/r7qiaa.gif
You should have tried with JJ/Wozniacki. Those two couldn't develope any skills even in virtual reality...
Fixed.

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:39 PM
:scared: Pop contest.

:ras:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:40 PM
I understand. :tears: :p

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:41 PM
:ras:

I would vote for you if you weren't playing me. :p :tears:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:50 PM
:boxing:

Just Do It
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:52 PM
All of a sudden everyone is a JJ fan :rolleyes:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:57 PM
:lol: Maybe she just has a lot of fans.

And no, she's been in my signature for a while now. :tears:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 12:58 PM
All of a sudden everyone is a JJ fan :rolleyes:

Jealous much? :shrug:

Just Do It
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:09 PM
Jealous much? :shrug:

Of what ? And I wasnt serious about you guys not being JJ fans just wanted to point you havent posted much in the forum before ;)

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:12 PM
I did post a lot during 2008 and recently came back because Serena is out. :bigcry:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:15 PM
I seldom go to these player forums anyway. Even Serena and Justine's forum too.:shrug: I usually would stop by at my Russian faves' forum though.:p
Plus there's no rule saying you MUST visit your faves forum frequently.:shrug:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Agree with Imperfect Angel :wavey: :p

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:22 PM
and :ras: @ your desperate and shameless promotion of yourself in the chat threads, Fred.:angel:

дalex
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:23 PM
Fixed.

I thought you didn't like Jeca and Caro comparisons? :hehehe:

:scared: Pop contest.

:ras:

Fighting for the Jankobitches' votes?

http://i56.tinypic.com/59x5k6.gif

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:24 PM
I did no such thing :o how dare you accuse me you were a poster I respected :o :lol:

дalex
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:24 PM
and :ras: @ your desperate and shameless promotion of yourself in the chat threads, Fred.:angel:

Please, you've been promoting yourself there for years. :lol:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Fighting for the Jankobitches' votes?

http://i56.tinypic.com/59x5k6.gif
Well, you have voted for me before I posted here.:p

I did no such thing :o how dare you accuse me you were a poster I respected :o :lol:
Well, you didn't really beg for votes but you just somehow indirectly remind them of their votes for you.:p

Please, you've been promoting yourself there for years. :lol:
Well, I had been but not this year.:shrug: :angel:

дalex
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Well, you have voted for me before I posted here.:p

The match is still on, plenty more people to vote. :p

You're both fishing for votes. It makes it an interesting battle. May the better one win.

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 01:56 PM
The match is still on, plenty more people to vote. :p

You're both fishing for votes. It makes it an interesting battle. May the better one win.

:lol: Hope so.:angel: I'm just paying back the votes for me by making some drama out there to appreciate my fans support.:cheer:

:angel::devil::angel::devil::angel:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:00 PM
I hate choking. :hysteric:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:05 PM
Well, you still lead me by a game.:p

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:13 PM
:lol: A bagel for me.:cheer:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:32 PM
Let's see if Renalicious will be back in this thread after Pop contest has finished.:angel: :lol:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:33 PM
You suck. :hysteric:

дalex
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Let's see if Renalicious will be back in this thread after Pop contest has finished.:angel: :lol:

Can't wait to see you here as well. :hehehe:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:43 PM
Well, I sure will be here when Jelena retires.:hysteric:


:lol: :p

Probably I will remember to come here if Jelena does well and reach semis or finals.:p

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Snide remarks by Imperfect. :o I thought you were nice. :o

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:48 PM
I'm always nice, but not to those who tries to be fake and modest.:p

дalex
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Snide remarks by Imperfect. :o I thought you were nice. :o

He's just being Jeca/Rena after a loss. :lol:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:51 PM
You're a fake Mariah fan I bet you illegally downloaded MCIIY. :o :o :o :o :o :p

Daruma.
Nov 20th, 2010, 02:53 PM
^^ I love those random Jankobitches coming out of nowhere for a few votes. :hearts:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 03:01 PM
He's just being Jeca/Rena after a loss. :lol:
You know me so well.:worship:

You're a fake Mariah fan I bet you illegally downloaded MCIIY. :o :o :o :o :o :p
How do you know?:eek: :bolt: :p But the album was just released like several days ago in my country, plus I don't always go to the city to buy the album, so I haven't bought it yet.:p I did buy her last 2 CDs.:p

^^ I love those random Jankobitches coming out of nowhere for a few votes. :hearts:
Yes I successfully fished like 5 votes.:cheer:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Not good enough! I bought the Delux ed. the day it came out with the dvd! :o :p

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Deluxe edition? which album? MCIIY?:confused:

Renalicious
Nov 20th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Yes. It has a dvd with it, it's 2 disc. How did you not know. :o

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 20th, 2010, 05:37 PM
:lol: I will only know when I visit the music stores.:p

Just Do It
Nov 20th, 2010, 05:38 PM
^ If a singer is showing too much on the CD cover pic, is that censored in Malaysia ?

ivanban
Nov 20th, 2010, 09:04 PM
^ If a singer is showing too much on the CD cover pic, is that censored in Malaysia ?

What would be "too much"? :confused:

MaBaker
Nov 20th, 2010, 11:59 PM
I thought you didn't like Jeca and Caro comparisons? :hehehe:
I still don't, but I miss insulting Jeja a bit. This off-season is already hard :cry:

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 01:52 AM
What would be "too much"? :confused:

Something like this :shrug:
http://s4.postimage.org/ZFp0.jpg

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:44 AM
^ If a singer is showing too much on the CD cover pic, is that censored in Malaysia ?

What would be "too much"? :confused:

Something like this :shrug:
http://s4.postimage.org/ZFp0.jpg

Don't think it will even be approved to be sold here.:lol:
I'm not so sure since I haven't seen one similar to this.:p

Renalicious
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:59 AM
Wasn't Mariah told to perform in a t-shirt and jeans the whole concert during her Charmbracelet tour because her outfits were deemed too risque in Malaysia?

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:20 AM
No, she wasn't told to wear them.:lol: The government told her to behave herself and wear proper outfits (as in not too exposing), so I guess it's her management and perhaps her decision to just wear t-shirt and jean to just fulfil their stupid rule and to avoid any unnecessary fine or punishment (which may lead to a ban).:o

Renalicious
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:34 AM
Did you go to that concert?

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:51 AM
No. It was held at K.L. (the capital city) and I live thousand miles across the South China Sea. Plus I have no idea who she was then.:p I only started to obssess about her after TEOM. I do remember I have watched some music videos of hers during her Charmbracelet era especially the Bringin' on the Heartbreak song, I thought it was so fake and funny when she was acting like a diva on stage.:happy:

Renalicious
Nov 21st, 2010, 06:07 AM
Lmfao :spit: That's what I love about her I guess. I love "You Had Your Chance" on that record.

Shame :tears: She came here in 1997 during Butterfly Era but I was only 3 years old :sad:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 06:39 AM
Oh, yeah, her last visit to Australia was 10++ years ago.:eek: Poor Aussies.:hug:

and now I know you're much younger than I thought.:unsure: :o

Renalicious
Nov 21st, 2010, 07:05 AM
Duh I am a youngen. :shrug:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 08:27 AM
Youngen :scratch:
The biggest douche of all douchebags known to man. Usually he/she is not aware of it and frequently needs to be reminded of it? From Urban dictionary.:p
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=YOUNGEN

:p

Renalicious
Nov 21st, 2010, 09:32 AM
This one :o

anyone under the age of yourself. but usually under the age of 18. :tears:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 11:17 AM
I know.:p Just playing.:p
Oh hi, Youngen :devil: *3rd meaning* :happy:

Daruma.
Nov 21st, 2010, 12:51 PM
I didn't think you were that young, Rena. I thought you were 21ish or smth like that. :lol:

Anyway, is your name Fred? I am not sure so I don't use it. :p

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 12:54 PM
Don't think it will even be approved to be sold here.:lol:
I'm not so sure since I haven't seen one similar to this.:p

You are lucky, we get those here all the time :sobbing:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:03 PM
You are lucky, we get those here all the time :sobbing:

I know, especially when they look like trannies.:tape:

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:08 PM
I know, especially when they look like trannies.:tape:

This reminded me of JJ's sister, Dijana who won on some music festival with this song :sobbing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQns3HyGZK0
( Jaka = Strong )

Renalicious
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:25 PM
I didn't think you were that young, Rena. I thought you were 21ish or smth like that. :lol:

Anyway, is your name Fred? I am not sure so I don't use it. :p

Yes it is :lol: :p

I joined this forum when I was 13. :tears: Roflmao.

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:32 PM
This reminded me of JJ's sister, Dijana who won on some music festival with this song :sobbing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQns3HyGZK0
( Jaka = Strong )

Well, she looks alright. More like a slut. Is she like 30++ years old?:scratch:

and I thought it was going to be an Indian song.:lol:

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:39 PM
Well, she looks alright. More like a slut. Is she like 30++ years old?:scratch:

and I thought it was going to be an Indian song.:lol:

I think she is younger than Jelena :o However, bitch is trying to build career on Jelena. She often mentions her in interviews and once she said " Jelena doesnt like that I am a singer " :happy:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 02:45 PM
Jelena is right. A prostitute career is definitely the one for her to venture. How smart Jelena is.:worship:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 04:22 PM
Dalex :( :hug: I hope Jelena retires next year so you can be like max too.:o :p

дalex
Nov 21st, 2010, 04:35 PM
I tried my best. The same can't be said about some of you who forgot to vote for me. :rolleyes:

Daruma.
Nov 21st, 2010, 04:38 PM
Shame on you Alex. You are as irrelevelant as Jeca. :tears:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 04:40 PM
I tried my best. The same can't be said about some of you who forgot to vote for me. :rolleyes:

I'm the first Jankob*tch to vote for you. So honoured but you lost.:rolleyes:

дalex
Nov 21st, 2010, 04:41 PM
^^ :(

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:14 PM
Alex is like JJ at Wimbledon ...

MaBaker
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:19 PM
^You better win this now.

дalex
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:25 PM
Alex is like JJ at Wimbledon ...

She's losing to nobodies while you always give me a tough draw. :lol: Last year it was ITZ, who was the overall winner, and Max is probably gonna win this year.

My time will come.

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:32 PM
Just fear you'll get injured like Dementieva and ended up retiring.:o

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:38 PM
^You better win this now.

It wont be easy :(

http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798775&postcount=3264
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798837&postcount=3270
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798432&postcount=4042
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798734&postcount=4044
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798840&postcount=4045
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18794938&postcount=1484

дalex
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:45 PM
Look at Danilo playing tricks now, wanting us to turn against renalicious. :happy:

OMG I need to take all this more professionally. Next year, I'm so gonna organize a campaign! It will be better than Obama's. You're all going down! :armed:

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:51 PM
Look at Danilo playing tricks now, wanting us to turn against renalicious. :happy:

OMG I need to take all this more professionally. Next year, I'm so gonna organize a campaign! It will be better than Obama's. You're all going down! :armed:

I am not :lol: Just wanting to point he is way into it. Wherever i go he is there saying " Thank you everyone for voting for me "
Aleks, next year seeds will be done like in TWAT, If I run it again I'm so gonna give you the #1 seed Ma will be #2 Zoja #3 and Kurtovic #4 - What a tandem :worship: ( aka vote for me ).

MaBaker
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:55 PM
It wont be easy :(

http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798775&postcount=3264
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798837&postcount=3270
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798432&postcount=4042
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798734&postcount=4044
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798840&postcount=4045
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18794938&postcount=1484
lol. You have no shame, Renalicious. GL Danilo.

дalex
Nov 21st, 2010, 06:02 PM
Who's Kurtovic? :sobbing:

I don't want to be #1 seed. I can't win it anyway. But I deserved to be among QFists for my lovely Jeja whoring. And you ain't getting my vote if you play Max. I want him to win this year so I can say I lost to eventual champion once again. :lol:

Just Do It
Nov 21st, 2010, 06:05 PM
Who's Kurtovic? :sobbing:

I don't want to be #1 seed. I can't win it anyway. But I deserved to be among QFists for my lovely Jeja whoring. And you ain't getting my vote if you play Max. I want him to win this year so I can say I lost to eventual champion once again. :lol:

Martin, obviously :shrug:
Losing twice to an eventual champion is just too good.

дalex
Nov 21st, 2010, 06:16 PM
Martin has retired, he hasn't posted for quite some time.

Yeah, it's amazing! :lol:

Caralenko
Nov 22nd, 2010, 07:31 AM
So if I face Max, your vote deserts me?

I am so offended right now.

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 22nd, 2010, 09:54 AM
It wont be easy :(

http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798775&postcount=3264
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798837&postcount=3270
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798432&postcount=4042
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798734&postcount=4044
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18798840&postcount=4045
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18794938&postcount=1484

Now you know how I feel.:rolleyes: :p

Renalicious
Nov 22nd, 2010, 10:51 AM
LOL you guys are pathetic. I wasn't even online when my match was on and literally didn't post a single thing about my match with Danilo. :help: Danilo trying to smear campaign me. Haters gon hate I guess. :tape:

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 22nd, 2010, 11:12 AM
Lucky you he didn't post this on the voting thread itself.:o Perhaps he should do it in the final.:devil:

Renalicious
Nov 22nd, 2010, 11:20 AM
:shrug: Don't really mind tbh... I'm happy I got this far. :lol:

дalex
Nov 22nd, 2010, 11:57 AM
:shrug: Don't really mind tbh... I'm happy I got this far. :lol:

Everyone will know how you got there by shameless campaigning. :rolleyes:

No, I'm kidding. It's all legitimate and it's not like people get anything for voting for you. So, it's all very much deserved. :hug:

I will vote for Jovana now though. I absolutely loved her love/hate lists. :hearts: And she hasn't been campaigning at all.

Renalicious
Nov 22nd, 2010, 12:39 PM
I love Jovana. :inlove: No hard feelings.

MaBaker
Nov 23rd, 2010, 01:06 PM
We should cheat a bit next year. When is the twat?

Just Do It
Nov 23rd, 2010, 01:12 PM
^ End of July.

Safe-From-Harm
Nov 24th, 2010, 10:32 AM
I just saw this popularity contest,
and in top-4 there are 3 JJ fans.
Maybe the 4th is also, don't know.

Caralenko
Nov 24th, 2010, 10:51 AM
I just saw this popularity contest,
and in top-4 there are 3 JJ fans.
Maybe the 4th is also, don't know.

Yes and you're all in such a rush to vote for me. :rolleyes:

Safe-From-Harm
Nov 24th, 2010, 10:56 AM
Yes and you're all in such a rush to vote for me. :rolleyes:

Haha, I never voted for this before.
I'm not a fan of kinda-like contests.
But, I can vote If You want.:cool:

MaBaker
Nov 24th, 2010, 11:14 AM
Yes and you're all in such a rush to vote for me. :rolleyes:
People should stop asking for votes :rolleyes:

Caralenko
Nov 24th, 2010, 11:47 AM
People should stop asking for votes :rolleyes:

Did I ask a question? http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/550/21348847.gif

Renalicious
Nov 24th, 2010, 11:50 AM
:happy:

Safe-From-Harm
Nov 24th, 2010, 11:54 AM
A mess.
Lol

MaBaker
Nov 24th, 2010, 07:12 PM
Did I ask a question?
No, you were as subtle as Jeja when she talks about her period. (http://i55.tinypic.com/yys94.gif)

ce
Nov 27th, 2010, 10:20 PM
bought tickets for JJ exo, i need to go through all those oldies playing just to see her :rolleyes:
:inlove:

-NAJ-
Nov 28th, 2010, 03:14 PM
Have fun;)and make some photos:p

ElusiveChanteuse
Nov 28th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Nice :cheer: Have fun.:cheer:

Renalicious
Nov 28th, 2010, 04:29 PM
Wow lucky. :D

ce
Nov 29th, 2010, 11:05 AM
thank you all, hope i will :lol:

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 12:37 AM
It is sad to see that Serbia has sold out to the Chinese on the Nobel Peace Prize issue. I would have hoped they would stood up to the Chinese bullies.

-NAJ-
Dec 10th, 2010, 12:51 AM
latest news show that after all Serbia will have representative -Sasa Jankovic

ivanban
Dec 10th, 2010, 09:02 AM
ohhhh, nice to see Jankovic family saved us from being one of black holes in this matter :p

Just Do It
Dec 10th, 2010, 11:18 AM
LOL I wish they would stick to their decision once. It's lame that some dude no one ever heard of will go to Oslo.

ivanban
Dec 10th, 2010, 11:41 AM
He's Ombudsman :shrug: OK choice, it's a prize ceremony not presidential convention

дalex
Dec 10th, 2010, 11:42 AM
LOL I wish they would stick to their decision once.

Me too. Not because I'm against Serbia being represented at the ceremony, 'cos that decision is as political as the prize itself, but because these idiots really need to stop making us all look like fools (if only in our own eyes 'cos, honestly, no one gives a flying f*ck whether Serbia will be there or not :lol:). Whatever the decision was they should have stuck to it, apologized to whichever side was "hurt" by it and moved on. This way they caused "concerns" in EU so they changed their minds making a complete fool of the Chinese ambassador for publicly thanking Serbia on its original decision. Absolute lose-lose situation. Not to mention that they embarrassed themselves showing that they can be "bullied" (as Chris would say) from all sides even on such minor issues like whether Serbia will attend a ceremony. Idiots! :lol:

Brena
Dec 10th, 2010, 12:22 PM
It is sad to see that Serbia has sold out to the Chinese on the Nobel Peace Prize issue. I would have hoped they would stood up to the Chinese bullies.

Chine boycotted the ceremony when Marti Ahtisari (sp?) won it. So I wouldn't call it a sell-out, rather a counter-favour. :shrug:
If we're being bullied by someone it's the US - that's why we're sending someone after all. :o
But Alex is right - who cares if a banana republic like Serbia attends or boycotts whatever ceremony. :awww:

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 01:24 PM
Chine boycotted the ceremony when Marti Ahtisari (sp?) won it. So I wouldn't call it a sell-out, rather a counter-favour. :shrug:
If we're being bullied by someone it's the US - that's why we're sending someone after all. :o
But Alex is right - who cares if a banana republic like Serbia attends or boycotts whatever ceremony. :awww:I care because when you give in to the Chinese bullies you just encourage them to voilate more human rights. Serbia should make the decision based on whether they agree with the choice of prize winner or not, not because the Chinese will punish them if they go to support a courageous person. If China was not theatening all the smaller countries then there would be no need for the US or anyone to do anything as Serbia would have gone without question.
By the way, if I was Chinese or even living in China, I would not dare to even comment on this situation. My closest friends are Chinese, they never say anything political and are so paronaoid that they think all their conversations are bugged.

<Majmun>
Dec 10th, 2010, 01:52 PM
It is sad to see that Serbia has sold out to the Chinese on the Nobel Peace Prize issue. I would have hoped they would stood up to the Chinese bullies.

Chinese bullies? lol

You should insert USA in there if you want to take the humor out of the post.

By the way that Nobel Peace award lost it's meaning long time ago. As for Serbia not representing it self i dont think your average Serbian could give a crap about the award or whos getting it.

<Majmun>
Dec 10th, 2010, 01:53 PM
Chine boycotted the ceremony when Marti Ahtisari (sp?) won it. So I wouldn't call it a sell-out, rather a counter-favour. :shrug:
If we're being bullied by someone it's the US - that's why we're sending someone after all. :o
But Alex is right - who cares if a banana republic like Serbia attends or boycotts whatever ceremony. :awww:

The way the USA economy is going looks like they will join us in that banana status soon.

<Majmun>
Dec 10th, 2010, 01:57 PM
LOL I wish they would stick to their decision once. It's lame that some dude no one ever heard of will go to Oslo.

This :cool:

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Chinese bullies? lollol. I guess the Chinese are doing a very good job! As for the 'clowns' who do not see it their way there will be'consequences'.

дalex
Dec 10th, 2010, 02:35 PM
I care because when you give in to the Chinese bullies you just encourage them to voilate more human rights. Serbia should make the decision based on whether they agree with the choice of prize winner or not, not because the Chinese will punish them if they go to support a courageous person. If China was not theatening all the smaller countries then there would be no need for the US or anyone to do anything as Serbia would have gone without question.
By the way, if I was Chinese or even living in China, I would not dare to even comment on this situation. My closest friends are Chinese, they never say anything political and are so paronaoid that they think all their conversations are bugged.

You do understand that there are countries with far less freedom than China? :unsure: Saudi Arabia for example, but you'll never see such an open campaign against it 'cos it's an ally of the US & co. China's political system has nothing to do with "peace" whatsoever except that, unfortunately, it is probably the only system that can provide peace in a country of that size and with such a huge population.

Serbia doesn't need to be bullied by China to know that it should somehow turn back the favor for previous political support. And Serbia would have never had to make such decision in the first place if it wasn't bullied for real by others and for years over Kosovo issue.

But it doesn't matter. Serbia should have decided to send the Ombudsman right from the start. The EU would have been happy, and the Chinese should have been told that Ombudsman's an independent institution that the Government "cannot" influence on. :lol:

Brena
Dec 10th, 2010, 03:08 PM
I care because when you give in to the Chinese bullies you just encourage them to voilate more human rights. Serbia should make the decision based on whether they agree with the choice of prize winner or not, not because the Chinese will punish them if they go to support a courageous person. If China was not theatening all the smaller countries then there would be no need for the US or anyone to do anything as Serbia would have gone without question.
By the way, if I was Chinese or even living in China, I would not dare to even comment on this situation. My closest friends are Chinese, they never say anything political and are so paronaoid that they think all their conversations are bugged.

Alex has already explained it, and please don't take it personally because the last thing I want is to fight with you about politics, but I don't really understand how, after all things the US have done in the world, you can call China a bully?? Of course that there are limitations within every communist system that clash with alleged democratic ideals, but I would say that's one of the smaller problems the world is facing right now and it's most certainly not up to the US to meddle and solve it. Because which country has started so many wars in the last 50 years or so? Which country sytematically destroys entire countries whose governments don't suit their interests (South America, Haiti....) Which country did the most monstruous thing in the recent history - came into one of the rare functioning and religiously moderate countries in the Middle East, completely wiped it out, killed a good percantage of its population leaving the country in ruins and chaos never to recover again, and those who managed to survive wishing they were dead?
And that country is allowed to criticise another country of not respecting human rights?? :help:

Anyway, Serbian government has never been afraid of China, they won't punish us, but the US and EU would have, had we disobeyed their orders, as you can clearly see from the change of decision. The right thing for Serbia was to return China a favour because they helped Serbia several times in the UN institutions. And perhaps it's a bit far-fetched, but as someone already said, it would have been wiser for Serbia to stick to Chine since it's a rising power, while the US is a declinig one. However, small countries are always bullied by someone and it's a bit too much of a romantic notion from you to think that countries act according to their moral ideals and not because of their political interests (big ones) or orders (small ones). And the notions of the US and moral ideals are even more divorced than those of communism and moral ideals.
So, I'm deeply ashamed of the Serbian government decision.

Since I'm not too good at this, I recommend the Nobel Prize speech of one of your own greatest (and last :sad:) independent intellectuals:

GY2Z27Y-HJE

<Majmun>
Dec 10th, 2010, 03:26 PM
lol. I guess the Chinese are doing a very good job! As for the 'clowns' who do not see it their way there will be'consequences'.

China is in no position to threaten us or bullie us in any kinda of a way. Our economy is not tied with their's and they don't have a military that can jump across from East Asia to Balkan to do anything.

So it's neither economic nor military bullying, but us trying to repay them back the favour for helping us during USA/NATO bombing of Serbia and for them not supporting Kosovos independance.

So once again, it has nothing to do with bullying in any kinda way.

As for:

"I guess the Chinese are doing a very good job! As for the 'clowns' who do not see it their way there will be'consequences'"

This applies to the USA/West in this part of region. We don't get bullyied by China, but by the USA. Hence we didn't see it their way and we got bombed, put under sanctions and dissolved into small pieces.

And after that they had balls to ask Serbia to send our troops thousands of miles away to Afghanistan lol.

I wonder how the conversasion went behind the closed doors as USA was trying to build up the coalition of the willing (lol)...more like coalition of the pressured.

USA: Hey can you send troops to Afghanistan?

Serbia: Didn't you just bomb us for like 3 months?

USA: Ye we did. Can u send us troops?

Serbia: Uhmm don't you still have sanctions on us?

USA: We do.. but can you send troops?

Serbia: Let me get this straight....you have largest military and military spending on the planet and you want us to send you troops to Afghanistan for which we can't even point out on the map nor do we have any problems with since it never attacked us.

USA: You want to join the European Union? Have sanctions taken off? Have any hope of keeping Kosovo?

Serbia: Hopefully.

USA: Well you better send us those fucking troops then. O bye the way don't listen to Chinese they are bullies.

Serbia: Wtf...:scratch: Wait don't you have like 100+ bases around the world, war going on at the moment, living on native Indian land.....ah nvm...

USA: Ye like i said they are bullies don't listen to them.So how many troops are you sending?

USA: O bye the way, just giving you heads up. We might go to war against Iran in the future so if you would like to contribute to that as well. Then there is North Korea.etc..

Serbia: Wait hold up...you only said Afghanistan.

USA: For now yea.

Serbia: You are like in a war with third of the planet. And you got sanctions or dictators you installed or supported in other third.

USA: Well what can i say" Team America Fuck yeah!"
So are you sending those troops?

Serbia: No

USA: You undemocratic,anti-west,commie,nazi,socialist, banana republic,Chinese and Russian lover. They bullied you into this, isn't that right?

Serbia: Nah i think you pissed me off with sanctions and bombs,etc..

USA: Lies they bullied you into this. I know.

Serbia:Ok My lil pumpkin..you are the smartest you should know.

USA: Ofcourse we are. They bullied you into this i know. Which just shows the true nature of those Chinese commies. They are always like that just bulling the world..but dont worry we will save the world from them.

Serbia: Ye anyways...Good luck with that...

USA: I swear to god Serbian are always the stubborn one.

Serbia: We blame our selves too.


I think there is a script in there for a comedy movie. Except its also a reality which is what makes it sad. Maybe a sad comedy movie?

Brena
Dec 10th, 2010, 03:27 PM
0h lol! I've just read this commnet on a Serbian news site:

Kako se zove razdor u Vladi banana države?
Banana split!

:rolls::sobbing:

(''How do you call a rift within a banana republic's government?''
''A banana-split.'')

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Thank god I am not american! Oh dear, I am British so maybe I am just as bad!

<Majmun>
Dec 10th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Thank god I am not american! Oh dear, I am British so maybe I am just as bad!

Some would argue it's even worse

Brena
Dec 10th, 2010, 03:53 PM
Thank god I am not american! Oh dear, I am British so maybe I am just as bad!

:lol::hug:
And you're not bad, you're just well-meaning and honest - you support human rights and that's something every normal person stands for. The ''problem'' is that you haven't had to deal with the US and their ''democracy'' first hand. That kind of opens your eyes and makes you wary about judging who's right and who's wrong. If they hadn't come to ''bring us democracy'', I doubt I'd have started seriously thinking about and studying all the disasters the US has caused in the world so far claiming they were protecting democrtic values, but in truth protecting their own interests with a complete disregard of other people's lives and wellfare. You know this bumper-sticker? :lol:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fqJElYFbL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Serbia actually got off lightly compared to Iraq, Haiti, and some South American countries that got the label of ''rogue countires'' as soon as some regime managed to overturn the government Americans had chosen and to stop the civil wars and dying and establish some order. Or Haiti... first, they push the country in chaos by political manipulations of its government and then, they're oh so surprised that those Haitians - what savages! - are killing each other for a morsel of food... and so on.
It seems that the Us are not as much hated in the UK as in the rest of the world?

<Majmun>
Dec 10th, 2010, 03:58 PM
I dont won't you think that somehow I/We don't like you or hate your country because it's not true, but I do have contempt for your governement i'm not going to hide it.

But anyway back to a different off-topic

Original song by Bolero -Jelena but i like cover version of Aca Lukas better.

Aca Lukas - Jelena

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeIYy-N7kYU

VS

Srebrna Krila - O Ana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIbB6sAtKLI&translated=1

:)

дalex
Dec 10th, 2010, 04:07 PM
Thank god I am not american! Oh dear, I am British so maybe I am just as bad!

Neither Americans nor Brits are bad, but, as WikiLeaks affair clearly shows, no nation should completely trust its government. And as Pinter says in that speech, there are different truths that make some things both true and false at the same time.

I feel sorry for that Chinese dissident, but it's up to Chinese nation to decide which system best suits them. They're already opening up to the rest of the world and, maybe one day, when there's enough money for each of the +billion people, they'll become a fully "democratic" country.

But if we know how human rights went down in places like Guantanamo prison or Iraq and Afghanistan during US/NATO occupations, maybe we should all cut China some slack. Just a thought.

Brena
Dec 10th, 2010, 04:29 PM
I dont won't you think that somehow I/We don't like you or hate your country because it's not true, but I do have contempt for your governement i'm not going to hide it.

That goes without saying. I've never met an American that I didn't like. :awww: And I'm obssessed with British culture. But I suppose small countries have to choose wisely which big powers they side with, and those that have brought you so much evil and destruction in the past don't seem too politically appealing to me. :shrug:

But anyway back to a different off-topic

Original song by Bolero -Jelena but i like cover version of Aca Lukas better.

Aca Lukas - Jelena

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeIYy-N7kYU

VS

Srebrna Krila - O Ana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIbB6sAtKLI&translated=1

:)


You should post that to that Jelena <3 Ana GM thread. :)

Neither Americans nor Brits are bad, but, as WikiLeaks affair clearly shows, no nation should completely trust its government. And as Pinter says in that speech, there are different truths that make some things both true and false at the same time.

I feel sorry for that Chinese dissident, but it's up to Chinese nation to decide which system best suits them. They're already opening up to the rest of the world and, maybe one day, when there's enough money for each of the +billion people, they'll become a fully "democratic" country.

But if we know how human rights went down in places like Guantanamo prison or Iraq and Afghanistan during US/NATO occupations, maybe we should all cut China some slack. Just a thought.

Alex... How can you be so smart online and such a bint in person?? :p
j/k :hug:

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 06:07 PM
You do understand that there are countries with far less freedom than China? :unsure: Saudi Arabia for example, but you'll never see such an open campaign against it 'cos it's an ally of the US & co. China's political system has nothing to do with "peace" whatsoever except that, unfortunately, it is probably the only system that can provide peace in a country of that size and with such a huge population. I think you are missing the point by trying to bring other things into this. It is irrelevant what I think about Saudi or anywhere else. I am not sure that this issue is about a 'campaign' against China. The issue is simple. If you think that he is deserving of the award then be prepared to stand up and say so. If you think it is a political stunt orchestrated by some Norweign/British/American/European or whatever agitators against the Chinese then boycott it.


Serbia doesn't need to be bullied by China to know that it should somehow turn back the favor for previous political support. And Serbia would have never had to make such decision in the first place if it wasn't bullied for real by others and for years over Kosovo issue.I will admit ignorance on the feelings towards the Chinese and Americans in Serbia. If you guys are representative of feelings in Serbia then obviously I am quite wrong to think that Serbia would need to be bullied to boycott this event.



But it doesn't matter. Serbia should have decided to send the Ombudsman right from the start. The EU would have been happy, and the Chinese should have been told that Ombudsman's an independent institution that the Government "cannot" influence on. :lol:I was never intending to criticize Serbia. I just thought that they had been leaned on by the Chinese. The Chinese certainly made it clear that there would be 'consequences' for any country which attended the awards ceremony.

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 06:37 PM
Alex has already explained it, and please don't take it personally because the last thing I want is to fight with you about politics, but I don't really understand how, after all things the US have done in the world, you can call China a bully?? Of course that there are limitations within every communist system that clash with alleged democratic ideals, but I would say that's one of the smaller problems the world is facing right now and it's most certainly not up to the US to meddle and solve it. Because which country has started so many wars in the last 50 years or so? Which country sytematically destroys entire countries whose governments don't suit their interests (South America, Haiti....) Which country did the most monstruous thing in the recent history - came into one of the rare functioning and religiously moderate countries in the Middle East, completely wiped it out, killed a good percantage of its population leaving the country in ruins and chaos never to recover again, and those who managed to survive wishing they were dead?
And that country is allowed to criticise another country of not respecting human rights?? :help:

Anyway, Serbian government has never been afraid of China, they won't punish us, but the US and EU would have, had we disobeyed their orders, as you can clearly see from the change of decision. The right thing for Serbia was to return China a favour because they helped Serbia several times in the UN institutions. And perhaps it's a bit far-fetched, but as someone already said, it would have been wiser for Serbia to stick to Chine since it's a rising power, while the US is a declinig one. However, small countries are always bullied by someone and it's a bit too much of a romantic notion from you to think that countries act according to their moral ideals and not because of their political interests (big ones) or orders (small ones). And the notions of the US and moral ideals are even more divorced than those of communism and moral ideals.
So, I'm deeply ashamed of the Serbian government decision.

Since I'm not too good at this, I recommend the Nobel Prize speech of one of your own greatest (and last :sad:) independent intellectuals:

GY2Z27Y-HJEDon't worry. I cannot possibly fight someone who is a master of disguise forever changing their identity! Given the choice I prefer the US bully to the other one - the question to ask is which one would you rather ruled Serbia because either of them could take it whenever they want (please do not take this literally). I do not actually believe the US are meddling in China's internal affairs - the US and Britain put economic interests first so there is not that much support for dissidents. I think that the US would like to see a China which had a free press like most of us would.

Channle 4 have blocked that video in the UK!

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 06:53 PM
Neither Americans nor Brits are bad, but, as WikiLeaks affair clearly shows, no nation should completely trust its government. And as Pinter says in that speech, there are different truths that make some things both true and false at the same time.

I feel sorry for that Chinese dissident, but it's up to Chinese nation to decide which system best suits them. They're already opening up to the rest of the world and, maybe one day, when there's enough money for each of the +billion people, they'll become a fully "democratic" country.

But if we know how human rights went down in places like Guantanamo prison or Iraq and Afghanistan during US/NATO occupations, maybe we should all cut China some slack. Just a thought.How can it be up to the Chinese nation to decide when they are not even allowed to criticize the government? Actually, I am not really interested in Chinese politics but more interested in improving the lives of the ordinary Chinese so they can have the right to criticize local goverment and hold it to account. Most of the abuses which take place in China are the result of corruption at that level and also the security services.

дalex
Dec 10th, 2010, 07:29 PM
I think you are missing the point by trying to bring other things into this. It is irrelevant what I think about Saudi or anywhere else. I am not sure that this issue is about a 'campaign' against China. The issue is simple. If you think that he is deserving of the award then be prepared to stand up and say so. If you think it is a political stunt orchestrated by some Norweign/British/American/European or whatever agitators against the Chinese then boycott it.

I was never intending to criticize Serbia. I just thought that they had been leaned on by the Chinese. The Chinese certainly made it clear that there would be 'consequences' for any country which attended the awards ceremony.

I understand what you mean, I was arguing that things are never as simple when it comes to politics.

I, personally, think it is a political stunt, but being a pragmatist I would have opted not to boycott the event and would balance out the obvious political interests that Serbia has with both EU and China. Nobel peace prize has an enormous prestige to it which has been, IMO, degraded with the last few laureates. Chinese dissident deserves recognition for his fight on human rights issue, but it's still far from what Nobel peace prize stands for IMO.

Any political decision brings certain political and/or economic consequences with it. It's clear that there would have been some consequences no matter what the decision was.

I think that the US would like to see a China which had a free press like most of us would.

Free press means nothing when it comes to global issues as in that case media mostly serve as the voice of the government. And people are too busy to care or look deeper into such issues. It's similar when it comes to internal affairs but free press can more often help in that regard in fully politically and economically developed countries. China is not yet such country and it will take some time before it can become politically open society.

How can it be up to the Chinese nation to decide when they are not even allowed to criticize the government? Actually, I am not really interested in Chinese politics but more interested in improving the lives of the ordinary Chinese so they can have the right to criticize local goverment and hold it to account. Most of the abuses which take place in China are the result of corruption at that level and also the security services.

What would improve the lives of the ordinary Chinese is continuous economic growth which is exactly what the country is trying to do with opening up to the rest of the world and foreign capital. Political system is the consequence of the fact that China is still underdeveloped in most parts of the country. There would be instant chaos in China if everyone would be allowed to criticize the government. The country would fall apart. Every country had to go through similar at some point and China is at this stage of development at the moment. I believe that if people were so unhappy with the government they would have found the way to fight it. And maybe they are and the system is slowly changing but we can't see it. Who's to tell for sure?

Brena
Dec 10th, 2010, 07:39 PM
Don't worry. I cannot possibly fight someone who is a master of disguise forever changing their identity!

I have to be sneaky and stealthy like that, I'm on a secret mission against ancitards!

Given the choice I prefer the US bully to the other one - the question to ask is which one would you rather ruled Serbia because either of them could take it whenever they want (please do not take this literally). I do not actually believe the US are meddling in China's internal affairs - the US and Britain put economic interests first so there is not that much support for dissidents. I think that the US would like to see a China which had a free press like most of us would.

Well, I understand why you prefer the US since they have never done you any harm (in terms of launching an armed attack against you). Neither has China, but their political and economic system is completely different to yours while the American one is the same. Ergo, Britain is naturally close to the US (you made them after all!)
OTOH, Serbia, as an European nation should also be more inclined towards the US since it's a civilization similar to ours, unlike the Chinese one, and we (Yugoslavia/Serbia) used to consider the US a country of freedom and our friends before we had a misfortune to discover their true face. Since the US support Serbia's direct adversaries, like Kosovo Albanians, since they have bombed us, have terrorised us and humilated us in various ways, it is only natural for Serbia to try to find a new powerful friend. And since China has never done us any harm, why not?
As for the US and thier moral grounds - the problem with them is that they're a bit...shifty and prone to rather quick 180 degree changes. All the rulers who have ended up labeled dictators and the main enemies of democracy and human rights (Saddam, Milosevic, military leaders of Bosnian Serbs, ...) were at one point hailed and helped by the US before they became too willful and started forgetting about the American interests and - voila - the US proclaims them devils. That is the problem - I beileve there are a lot things wrong with China's system, but I still think there are much more things wrong with the US foreign politics.
And I think that economic interests = the reason for meddling. As if they really give a damn about some Chinese dissident. They only use him to disredit China as a rival superpower. :shrug: Thta's exactly why I think all of this has nothing to do with human rights and why Serbia should have supported China.

Channle 4 have blocked that video in the UK!

:speakles: No peace prize for them!
It's Harold Pinter's speech ''Art, Truth and Politics''. It's great, you can surely find it as a transcript somewhere on the net. It's definitely worth reading.

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 10:30 PM
I have to be sneaky and stealthy like that, I'm on a secret mission against ancitards!



Well, I understand why you prefer the US since they have never done you any harm (in terms of launching an armed attack against you). Neither has China, but their political and economic system is completely different to yours while the American one is the same. Ergo, Britain is naturally close to the US (you made them after all!)
OTOH, Serbia, as an European nation should also be more inclined towards the US since it's a civilization similar to ours, unlike the Chinese one, and we (Yugoslavia/Serbia) used to consider the US a country of freedom and our friends before we had a misfortune to discover their true face. Since the US support Serbia's direct adversaries, like Kosovo Albanians, since they have bombed us, have terrorised us and humilated us in various ways, it is only natural for Serbia to try to find a new powerful friend. And since China has never done us any harm, why not?
As for the US and thier moral grounds - the problem with them is that they're a bit...shifty and prone to rather quick 180 degree changes. All the rulers who have ended up labeled dictators and the main enemies of democracy and human rights (Saddam, Milosevic, military leaders of Bosnian Serbs, ...) were at one point hailed and helped by the US before they became too willful and started forgetting about the American interests and - voila - the US proclaims them devils. That is the problem - I beileve there are a lot things wrong with China's system, but I still think there are much more things wrong with the US foreign politics.
And I think that economic interests = the reason for meddling. As if they really give a damn about some Chinese dissident. They only use him to disredit China as a rival superpower. :shrug: Thta's exactly why I think all of this has nothing to do with human rights and why Serbia should have supported China.



:speakles: No peace prize for them!
It's Harold Pinter's speech ''Art, Truth and Politics''. It's great, you can surely find it as a transcript somewhere on the net. It's definitely worth reading.You guys have cleverly turned this in to an argument about the merits of the US and China, and since you have personal (negative) experience of US foreign intervention I would be a fool to argue against you as I have no experience either way. I do not know how they came to their decision and whether there was someone more deserving but I still believe that it is good to expose the Chinese when they lock up up dissidents who have just spoken up, peacefully, for democratic rights.

ChriS.
Dec 10th, 2010, 10:53 PM
I understand what you mean, I was arguing that things are never as simple when it comes to politics.

I, personally, think it is a political stunt, but being a pragmatist I would have opted not to boycott the event and would balance out the obvious political interests that Serbia has with both EU and China. Nobel peace prize has an enormous prestige to it which has been, IMO, degraded with the last few laureates. Chinese dissident deserves recognition for his fight on human rights issue, but it's still far from what Nobel peace prize stands for IMO. You guys are far more knowledgeable than me but in my own very naive way I think that Liu Xiaobo is as deserving as Aung San Suu Kyi.

Free press means nothing when it comes to global issues as in that case media mostly serve as the voice of the government. And people are too busy to care or look deeper into such issues. It's similar when it comes to internal affairs but free press can more often help in that regard in fully politically and economically developed countries. China is not yet such country and it will take some time before it can become politically open society.I do not really understand your point here. I think a free press means as much on global issues as domestic issues and the Iraq war in Britain is a good example. In a fully plolitically and economically developed country the citizens are protected by the law so you could argue the reverse. Can you develop a trully democratic state without it? I doubt it very much. No one gives away power and privilige for nothing in return.
What would improve the lives of the ordinary Chinese is continuous economic growth which is exactly what the country is trying to do with opening up to the rest of the world and foreign capital. Political system is the consequence of the fact that China is still underdeveloped in most parts of the country. There would be instant chaos in China if everyone would be allowed to criticize the government. The country would fall apart. Every country had to go through similar at some point and China is at this stage of development at the moment. I believe that if people were so unhappy with the government they would have found the way to fight it. And maybe they are and the system is slowly changing but we can't see it. Who's to tell for sure?Some brave people 'fight' it by sacrifying their freedom just to speak out on how well they think their government is doing. You do not have to do much - just say that corrupt officials have allowed schools to be built sub-standard and you will be locked up if you repeat it too often. Reform has happened and may continue but it is not easy when those with wealth and power depend on the continuation of the status quo.

дalex
Dec 11th, 2010, 12:08 AM
We cannot influence on China's policies. My opinion is that full democracy requires a lot of money which China still doesn't have. Some people opt to think that China is evil and wants to torture its people just so the leaders would stay in power and be wealthy. Well, I dunno, the leaders are pretty wealthy everywhere, even if there's more corruption in less democratic countries.

But the main thing is actually that China is NO global bully and there will be no 'consequences' for Serbia (or any other country IMO).

China's Ambassador to Serbia, short interview:
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/tema-dana/Peking-nece-promeniti-stav-prema-Srbiji.sr.html

Does Ombudsman Sasa Jankovic showing up at the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony means that Serbia has violated the promise made to China that it will not attend this event?

As for the decision of the Government of the Republic of Serbia to change its mind at the final hour and send the ombudsman at the Nobel, we deeply regret it, but understand the pressure and the situation in which the Republic of Serbia is. Awarding the Nobel Prize to criminal Liu Xiaobo who promotes the ideas that "China should be a colony for another 300 years" and that "it must be divided into 18 new states", and who has long urged for the fall of the national government, is completely against the good intentions of the Nobel Prize, which symbolizes "defense of peace", and poses a humiliation for the prize itself. I believe that the people of Serbia, who boycotted the Nobel laureate Ahtisaari, fully understand the stance of the Chinese side.

Whether and what consequences such a decision may have on relations between Serbia and China?

China, as a country of principles, respects the feelings of the Serbian people and we never hurt them, so we will not so easily change our attitude towards relationship between the two countries. We will continue to deepen strategic partnership of China and Serbia, based on the principles of mutual respect, equality, mutual benefit and mutual non-interference into internal affairs, regardless of differences in ideology, social system and value system. As always we will support the legitimate concern of the Serbian side on the issue of Kosovo, while we hope that Serbia will continue to understand and support the Chinese side when it comes to matters of vital interest for China.

I agree with the ambassador in the sense that by choosing this laureate, the Nobel committee condemns the political system of China and that decision is, in some way, against the peace in that country as it is that political system that provides the peace and stability to that nation. It's obviously not the perfect system, but it's a work in progress and hopefully China will use all these critiques to change for the better.

ChriS.
Dec 11th, 2010, 12:40 AM
We cannot influence on China's policies. My opinion is that full democracy requires a lot of money which China still doesn't have. Some people opt to think that China is evil and wants to torture its people just so the leaders would stay in power and be wealthy. Well, I dunno, the leaders are pretty wealthy everywhere, even if there's more corruption in less democratic countries.

But the main thing is actually that China is NO global bully and there will be no 'consequences' for Serbia (or any other country IMO).

China's Ambassador to Serbia, short interview:
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/tema-dana/Peking-nece-promeniti-stav-prema-Srbiji.sr.html



I agree with the ambassador in the sense that by choosing this laureate, the Nobel committee condemns the political system of China and that decision is, in some way, against the peace in that country as it is that political system that provides the peace and stability to that nation. It's obviously not the perfect system, but it's a work in progress and hopefully China will use all these critiques to change for the better.Actually it is possible the Serbian government has pleased both sides with their response. The initial boycott showed they were willing to support China and, having shown their support, they then cleverly sent some nobody to appease the EU. A win-win I think. I think there would be consequences for Serbia if they condemmed the Chinese boycott or openly support Liu Xiaobo.

ChriS.
Dec 11th, 2010, 01:50 AM
Since I'm not too good at this, I recommend the Nobel Prize speech of one of your own greatest (and last :sad:) independent intellectuals:

GY2Z27Y-HJEThanks. It is a powerful speech and we should all be thankful that he can say what he thinks on this subject. If you think about it, what he is saying about what the US does to countries who threaten it (overthrow them) is exactly parallel to what China does to dissidents. Listen to the last couple of minutes again. What you (Serbia) is seeing is just a reflection of where you are standing (recent history of Serbia). 'Your duty is to smash the mirror' - think freely, as Liu Xiaobo does.'Despite the immense odds which exist .. fierce determination .. as citizens to define the real truth of our lives ... obligation on us all .. we have no hope of restoring what is lost to us - the dignitiy of man'. I think he has just put the case for Liu Xiaobo to win the prize.

MaBaker
Dec 14th, 2010, 09:25 AM
Happy Birthday lepa http://i56.tinypic.com/5l2cz5.gif

5v7gnE3xEFI

Brena
Dec 14th, 2010, 11:23 AM
Thank you, Ma. http://svabotralala.glasovi.org/images/smilies/bisu.gif
Although, I must say I was hoping you'd open me a Non-Tennis thread titled ''I Dreamed of an Angel and God Sent Me Lepa Zoja'' :awww:

Princeza
Dec 14th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Although, I must say I was hoping you'd open me a Non-Tennis thread titled ''I Dreamed of an Angel and God Sent Me Lepa Zoja'' :awww:

Lol.

Happy birthday Zojaaaa http://yelims2.free.fr/Fete/Fete03.gif:hearts:
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8388/7fydgjukg8a.gif

-NAJ-
Dec 14th, 2010, 12:07 PM
Srecan rodjendan:)

JJ's biatch
Dec 14th, 2010, 12:18 PM
Zoja, happy b-day :hearts:

MaBaker
Dec 14th, 2010, 05:21 PM
Although, I must say I was hoping you'd open me a Non-Tennis thread titled ''I Dreamed of an Angel and God Sent Me Lepa Zoja'' :awww:
lol, I'll do that next year. If I don't get banned or Jeja kills us all :inlove:

Just Do It
Dec 14th, 2010, 06:38 PM
Happy Bday, Zo :cheer:

Brena
Dec 14th, 2010, 06:50 PM
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2875/hvala.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/i/hvala.jpg/)

~Kiera~
Dec 14th, 2010, 09:41 PM
Happy Birthday, Zoja :aparty:

JJ Expres
Dec 14th, 2010, 10:34 PM
srecan rodjendan zoja(ili zojo?) :)

-NAJ-
Dec 15th, 2010, 02:32 AM
Insomnia :(
btw it would be great if Jelena starts to post on twitter!?

MB.
Dec 15th, 2010, 02:48 AM
Srecan Rodjendan, Zoja ;)

Daruma.
Dec 15th, 2010, 01:29 PM
Happy birthday Zoja! :hearts:

Brena
Dec 15th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Insomnia :(
btw it would be great if Jelena starts to post on twitter!?

Never. She has life. :tears:

Srecan Rodjendan, Zoja ;)

srecan rodjendan zoja(ili zojo?) :)

Thank you! :kiss:
And I believe the vocative case form is Zoja because ''o'' is short.
Two-syllable names where the first vocal is short (ima kratak akcenat) don't change their form in the vocative case. For example: Ana, Nina, Mina, Anja, Tanja, Sanja, Dunja, Mila, Saša,...
OTOH, those two-syllable names where the first vocal is long, have a vocative case form that ends in an ''o'': Zora - Zoro, Dana - Dano, Sara - Saro, Nena - Neno, Neda - Nedo, Miša - Mišo, ...

However, to be perfectly honest, I'm not citing this rule from any Serbian grammar, I actually came up with it myself. :lol: People had been always asking me whether to address me by Zoja or Zojo, or just used Zojo (while I'm used to Zoja since that's how my parents have always adrressed me), so I wanted to find out which form is the right one, but couldn't find it in any grammar. So I started making lists of more common two-syllable names whose vocative case forms I know for sure, and realised that the difference between those that change the form in vocative and those that don't lies in the length of the first syllable. :bigclap::lol:

JJ's biatch
Dec 15th, 2010, 02:02 PM
Never. She has life. :tears:





Thank you! :kiss:
And I believe the vocative case form is Zoja because ''o'' is short.
Two-syllable names where the first vocal is short (ima kratak akcenat) don't change their form in the vocative case. For example: Ana, Nina, Mina, Anja, Tanja, Sanja, Dunja, Mila, Saša,...
OTOH, those two-syllable names where the first vocal is long, have a vocative case form that ends in an ''o'': Zora - Zoro, Dana - Dano, Sara - Saro, Nena - Neno, Neda - Nedo, Miša - Mišo, ...

However, to be perfectly honest, I'm not citing this rule from any Serbian grammar, I actually came up with it myself. :lol: People had been always asking me whether to address me by Zoja or Zojo, or just used Zojo (while I'm used to Zoja since that's how my parents have always adrressed me), so I wanted to find out which form is the right one, but couldn't find it in any grammar. So I started making lists of more common two-syllable names whose vocative case forms I know for sure, and realised that the difference between those that change the form in vocative and those that don't lies in the length of the first syllable. :bigclap::lol:

:haha: I always wondered how to address people with short names. Your rule is amazing and it has a point.
You should write ''The New Edition of Serbian Grammar''... :D I would totally buy it :D :hearts:

MB.
Dec 15th, 2010, 06:16 PM
And I believe the vocative case form is Zoja because ''o'' is short.
Two-syllable names where the first vocal is short (ima kratak akcenat) don't change their form in the vocative case. For example: Ana, Nina, Mina, Anja, Tanja, Sanja, Dunja, Mila, Saša,...
OTOH, those two-syllable names where the first vocal is long, have a vocative case form that ends in an ''o'': Zora - Zoro, Dana - Dano, Sara - Saro, Nena - Neno, Neda - Nedo, Miša - Mišo, ...

However, to be perfectly honest, I'm not citing this rule from any Serbian grammar, I actually came up with it myself. :lol: People had been always asking me whether to address me by Zoja or Zojo, or just used Zojo (while I'm used to Zoja since that's how my parents have always adrressed me), so I wanted to find out which form is the right one, but couldn't find it in any grammar. So I started making lists of more common two-syllable names whose vocative case forms I know for sure, and realised that the difference between those that change the form in vocative and those that don't lies in the length of the first syllable. :bigclap::lol:

Ah, I did that for short names (Ana) or ones that would just sound awkward otherwise (Anja, Tanja, Sasa), but I would have assumed people address you as 'Zojo' when talking directly to you :lol:

Thanks for the grammar lesson!

RFS
Dec 15th, 2010, 06:22 PM
I'm such a bad Rozzie! HAPPY BIRTHDAY ZOJA :aparty:

<Majmun>
Dec 16th, 2010, 09:25 AM
Happy Birthday

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 16th, 2010, 10:44 AM
I hope Zoja celebrated her b-day with playing Brean's classic all day and night long.

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 16th, 2010, 04:55 PM
Who wants, please vote for Serbia( for singles-JJ, And and doubles-Mircic/Jankovic) in PYW game.
Last year Serbia was knocked out in 1st round, thanks to Ana..lol

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=424749&page=2

Lord Choc Ice
Dec 17th, 2010, 10:22 AM
I added JJ to my sig now.

Don't make me regret it. :angel:

MaBaker
Dec 17th, 2010, 01:25 PM
Don't make me regret it. :angel:
http://i51.tinypic.com/8xvjhk.gif

Bobisa
Dec 17th, 2010, 04:11 PM
I added JJ to my sig now.

Don't make me regret it. :angel:


:yeah: :bounce:

Daruma.
Dec 17th, 2010, 06:02 PM
I'm in two minds between law and international relations. I need to decide as soon as possible and set myself a goal which obviously will help me get through this difficult period of time and work on it. I don't quite have the gift of the gab that takes to be a lawyer, but I have the ability to make good use of my qualities. Anyway, what do you suggest? :scratch: I'll be really pleased to read your advises and experiences. :hearts:

<Majmun>
Dec 18th, 2010, 08:49 AM
I'm in two minds between law and international relations. I need to decide as soon as possible and set myself a goal which obviously will help me get through this difficult period of time and work on it. I don't quite have the gift of the gab that takes to be a lawyer, but I have the ability to make good use of my qualities. Anyway, what do you suggest? :scratch: I'll be really pleased to read your advises and experiences. :hearts:

Become a politician. Then you can apply both at the same time, as you can change law every other day to suit your needs while managing international relations as you see fit.

RFS
Dec 18th, 2010, 10:59 AM
Oh my god! My iPad got delivered just as the snow came down. Only missing the dock but making my first post, here in JJ's forum!!!! LOVE IT!!!!

Brena
Dec 18th, 2010, 11:35 AM
I'm in two minds between law and international relations. I need to decide as soon as possible and set myself a goal which obviously will help me get through this difficult period of time and work on it. I don't quite have the gift of the gab that takes to be a lawyer, but I have the ability to make good use of my qualities. Anyway, what do you suggest? :scratch: I'll be really pleased to read your advises and experiences. :hearts:

Hard question. I don't know much about either studies and how easy/hard it is to find a job and what possibilities you have with either degree in Turkey, but being totally ignorant on the topic won't stop me from giving you advice. :lol:
As I see it, if you obtain a degree in law you can do different things, you don't have to be a lawyer (and even if you do, I think it's more about office work than about talking in courtrooms). Law seems to me more concrete knowledge, while the international relations is basically being a diplomat, and you can be a diplomat with any kind of a univesity degree, so even if you chnage your mind, you can always persue an MA or a PhD in international relations when you've obtained your degree in law.
For all I know, I might have just written a bunch of nonsense, so my real advice would be to talk to someone who already studies for those degrees because those people are the most suited to give you right information on career opportunities.

Brena
Dec 18th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Oh my god! My iPad got delivered just as the snow came down. Only missing the dock but making my first post, here in JJ's forum!!!! LOVE IT!!!!

Woohoo! Congrats on your new baby, Roz! :D

RFS
Dec 18th, 2010, 12:26 PM
Woohoo! Congrats on your new baby, Roz! :D

See how much dedication I have to the glittery goddess of Goat?
if she had an iPad she would cover it in glitter and then get air-con for it when it becomes overheated in the hot Australian courts!!!

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 24th, 2010, 11:34 AM
That ,,hottnes'' thread bring out the worse from people ... haha

Now I know I'm evil, full of hate and I want to discredit Ana's fanbase.( I really want to know how someone made that conlucion of my 1 post there).
And I got a bad reply... So, I really didn't know that I'm like that:D

But, well I suppose that poster is in love with me
and God sent me a wrong one....

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 24th, 2010, 11:37 AM
Look at this statement about ,super ana''

It's pretty sad to think some JJ fan had to stoop to this level, creating fake accounts in order to try to discredit the opposite fan base. They have reached the new level of classless.

post by cocco80, my fave poster.
It's our fault for everything.

JJ's biatch
Dec 24th, 2010, 11:59 AM
I love cocco80 :hearts:

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 24th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Haha, I wished her/him all the best in life insteed
he/she calls me unintelligent, without humor, full of hate and so on...

That's love.

JJ's biatch
Dec 24th, 2010, 12:32 PM
pure love.:inlove: beware, maybe he/she is waiting for you in the dark :unsure:

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 24th, 2010, 12:37 PM
I'm ready for all, haha.
But at least I hope is SHE.

JJ's biatch
Dec 24th, 2010, 12:48 PM
:haha: I really hope it's a female, because of you :sobbing:
but then again, I think IT is the pronoun which can describe Ancitards like cocco best :hearts:

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 24th, 2010, 12:53 PM
Thank You:hysteric::sobbing:

Until we recover what is the gender, let's call it ,,IT''.:tape:

JJ's biatch
Dec 24th, 2010, 01:25 PM
welcome.
:haha: I will call it IT forever and ever :inlove:

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 24th, 2010, 03:24 PM
Did You read Stepehn's King ,, IT''?
Or watched the film?

If IT looks like IT, then I'm scared....

<Majmun>
Dec 24th, 2010, 03:36 PM
Did You read Stepehn's King ,, IT''?
Or watched the film?

If IT looks like IT, then I'm scared....

I've seen it when I was 10, couldn't sleep that night. That huge spider towards the end of the movie was :tape:

JJ's biatch
Dec 24th, 2010, 05:07 PM
Did You read Stepehn's King ,, IT''?
Or watched the film?

If IT looks like IT, then I'm scared....

no, I haven't.. If it's that scary, I won't watch it :crying2:

Princeza
Dec 24th, 2010, 09:08 PM
I've seen it when I was 10, couldn't sleep that night. That huge spider towards the end of the movie was :tape:

Me too :tears:

no, I haven't.. If it's that scary, I won't watch it :crying2:

Maybe you can, it looks ridiculous when you're older :p

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 25th, 2010, 10:02 AM
^ OMG, Pyotr looks like some sort of IT.

Caralenko
Dec 25th, 2010, 10:13 AM
Don't you love my sig? :hearts:

Lord Choc Ice
Dec 25th, 2010, 10:22 AM
:lol: Very nice.

дalex
Dec 25th, 2010, 10:54 AM
Don't you love my sig? :hearts:

http://i56.tinypic.com/2h4xilh.gif

MaBaker
Dec 25th, 2010, 11:02 AM
Sig is lovely. That dress deserves at least one more tournament.

-NAJ-
Dec 26th, 2010, 02:08 AM
I have pain in throat:fiery:

this is crazy:lol:
http://novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:312846-Bubanj-Boba-inicirao-internet-napade-na-Djokovice

Brena
Dec 26th, 2010, 02:15 AM
I have pain in throat:fiery:

this is crazy:lol:
http://novosti.rs/vesti/sport.72.html:312846-Bubanj-Boba-inicirao-internet-napade-na-Djokovice

Dušan Grujić! :weirdo: That man makes me sick - not only is he an idiot, he's a criminal as well. When he lived in the house next to mine he terrorised the entire street, he's a bully without any scruples. He knows nothing about tenis or any kind of sport, he's there just for money. And this entire thing makes me sick. The worst of all is that Novak actually supports his father in this, I'm so disappointed in him.
Besides - when I say that JJ/Ana rivalry is all about Red Star/Partizan rivlary (no matter how idiotic it might sound), no one believes me. No idea who this Bubanj is, but Grujic is actually trying to accuse Zivojinovic of what he does himself - turning Serbian media against JJ for Ana's benefit, or rather, his own benefit because he uses her in marketing purposes.


Oh - get well soon, NAJ. :hug:

-NAJ-
Dec 26th, 2010, 02:31 AM
Novak is not longer little boy, but Srdjan moves do demage more to him than Srdjan
Did Novak reacted when Viskovic got fired on RTS( because according to Srdjan he didn't talk too much good things about Novak during his matches:help:)
Srdjan is going into things that makes him bad image in public.
he also went on political congress of SPS few weeks ago :confused:

*
If people in STF did not do job well they should go, but some people give themselves the right to make a public embarrassment for no reason.

Brena
Dec 26th, 2010, 02:42 AM
Novak is not longer little boy, but Srdjan moves do demage more to him than Srdjan
Did Novak reacted when Viskovic got fired on RTS( because according to Srdjan he didn't talk too much good things about Novak during his matches:help:)
Srdjan is going into things that makes him bad image in public.
he also went on political congress of SPS few weeks ago :confused:

*
If people in STF did not do job well they should go, but some people give themselves the right to make a public embarrassment for no reason.

I know. I didn't have a problem with Novak not reacting to his dad's actions - however horrible, greedy and unscrupulous Srdjan is, he's still his father. It's hard to judge your parents, I guess, or maybe Novak wouldn't do it for his mum's and brothers' sake or something. But this time he's openly supporting his father in what he's doing, and what he's doing is very shady business to say the least. And, as you said, Srdjan is resorting to anything, it's really disgusting. As for Novak, it'll just bring him more bad press and enemies in Serbian tennis circles. He really didn't need this, she should have stayed quiet and minded his own business as before.

<Majmun>
Dec 26th, 2010, 03:07 AM
Seljacka posla

-NAJ-
Dec 26th, 2010, 03:09 AM
Today we rarely see so successful, smart and modest athlete like Novak, i hope Srdjan's moves will not involve Novak is somthing that can cause serious damage.

Some people don't know when it's time to stop:o

Bogdan Obradovic:help:

Bobisa
Dec 26th, 2010, 07:04 AM
I think Brena should be president :angel:

MB.
Dec 26th, 2010, 08:51 AM
Seljacka posla

Amen, brother.

I think Brena should be president :angel:

I can get behind this, too.

дalex
Dec 26th, 2010, 09:28 AM
I don't know if Boba is a good president, but I don't like Srdjan Djokovic and his buddies at all!

Boba nije dorastao da rukovodi Savezom. Njemu pripada mesto počasnog predsednika TSS, za sve što je uradio, ali ne više od toga. Za neke stvari, prosto, nije sposoban. Pogledajte samo spisak ljudi sa kojima je ušao u tenis. Gde su oni? Pa u svom Upravnom odboru više nema podršku. Od sedam sportskih radnika u UO, pet je protiv njega.

First he accuses Boba of being behind all the online negative comments about Djokovic family (most of it is about Srdjan anyway), says that he's incompetent, but goes on to say that Boba should be the honorary president of the federation for all that he had done. That doesn't make sense. Has he done something or not? What proof do they have about Boba sneakily attacking Djokovics on the internet?

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/spektar/zivot-i-stil/Dordje-je-Novak-na-kvadrat.sr.html
Ипак, шта мислите о Боби Живојиновићу?

Био је одличан играч и, у тенису, ништа више од тога. Њега, иако је до јануарских избора председник, не интересује тениски свет. Он има друга интересовања и друге послове. И то је његово право. Али то је нека друга Србија... А наша Србија је наш тенис, који је наш посао, наш спорт, наш живот. Све је то неодвојиви део моје породице, мене и свих тенисера Србије.

А шта ћете ви бити у савезу?

Моја улога и улога моје породице ће бити само помагање људима који ће руководити Тениским савезом Србије. Сви ћемо ми и – наш Тениски центар „Новак”, и „Србија опен”, и Новак, и Марко, и сутра Ђоле бити само њихови „војници” за добробит тениса у Србији.

"He was an excellent tennis player, nothing more." :weirdo: And who the fuck is he so that "tennis is his life"? Srdjan is as much of a businessman as Boba except that he never played tennis. Everyone in the whole Serbia knows that Srdjan is the kind of person that thinks he knows everything and being a father of the most famous Serbian athlete somehow makes him think he's right to act like that.

And all that bullshit about Serbia, life, family, Serbia Open, tennis... Shut up! :spit:

If his intention is only to help people who run the federation then why can't he help Zivojinovic? Idiot.

-NAJ-
Dec 26th, 2010, 01:17 PM
What kind of businessman Srdjan is? what he did?:tape:
Serbia open? government helped them a lot also "telekom srbija" helped them(state company)
Let's face it - serbia open didn't make a great success

always says that it will invest money but that money can not seem to arrive;)

srdjan expects that we all fall under his feet when we see him:lol:

MaBaker
Dec 26th, 2010, 05:19 PM
It's ridiculous that they started to fight just couple of days after they won DC. I don't care about Boba, but Djokovics are being too annoying.

ivanban
Dec 26th, 2010, 07:02 PM
Today we rarely see so successful, smart and modest athlete like Novak, i hope Srdjan's moves will not involve Novak is somthing that can cause serious damage.

Some people don't know when it's time to stop:o

Bogdan Obradovic:help:

You obviously weren't in Arena when Serbia played Australia few years ago in Davis cup, when Novak took the microphone after Tipsarevic lost to Hewitt and started yelling at us (the crowd) and finally smashed the microphone to smithereens :help: :cuckoo: I lost all respect toward him since then :rolleyes:

-NAJ-
Dec 26th, 2010, 08:15 PM
crowd wasn't load i guess?:p

JJ's biatch
Dec 26th, 2010, 09:24 PM
yeah, we were :rolleyes: he was just pissed because Janko lost :rolleyes: it's better to blame the crowd :unsure:

ivanban
Dec 26th, 2010, 09:36 PM
yeah, we were :rolleyes: he was just pissed because Janko lost :rolleyes: it's better to blame the crowd :unsure:

Exactly!

Whatta prick, it wasn't our fault that Janko lost, plus we were cheering our asses off for almost 8 hours then, atmosphere was beyond amazing :(

Interesting how there was no coverage of that "tiny detail" on any TV station :rolleyes: Prolly Srdjan urged bit time :boxing:

-NAJ-
Dec 26th, 2010, 10:11 PM
Srdjan again
Novogodišnji prijem kod gradonačelnika Jagodine Dragana Markovića Palme
U zabavnom delu programa nastupio je Miki Jevremović, a kao specijalan gost prijemu je prisustvovao i otac najboljeg srpskog tenisera Novaka Đokovića, Srđan Đoković.

ivanban
Dec 26th, 2010, 11:04 PM
:vomit:

Brena
Dec 26th, 2010, 11:05 PM
:vomit:

Well said.

ivanban
Dec 26th, 2010, 11:06 PM
Speaking of vomit, is that emoticon removed from TF or what?! :scratch:

-NAJ-
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByDonPUDjf4

:haha::haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdqXu46VwF0

JJ's biatch
Dec 27th, 2010, 01:25 AM
Exactly!

Whatta prick, it wasn't our fault that Janko lost, plus we were cheering our asses off for almost 8 hours then, atmosphere was beyond amazing :(

Interesting how there was no coverage of that "tiny detail" on any TV station :rolleyes: Prolly Srdjan urged bit time :boxing:

yeah :rolleyes: I remember that me and my friends were really pissed after that because we lost our voices while cheering for them. And first day they didn't give us those DC BNP Paribas balloons for cheering :rolleyes: my palms were burning :sad:

Well said.

agree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByDonPUDjf4

:haha::haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdqXu46VwF0

omg, that's hilarious :hysteric: who's that guy? :rolls:

-NAJ-
Dec 27th, 2010, 03:30 AM
^Croatian football manager
:lol:

Brena
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Speaking of vomit, is that emoticon removed from TF or what?! :scratch:

I don't think we ever had it here. :scratch: Mods even delete Ma's vomit-emoticon posts from wozniacki threads. :rolls:

Lord Choc Ice
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:04 PM
I don't think we ever had it here. :scratch: Mods even delete Ma's vomit-emoticon posts from wozniacki threads. :rolls:

:sobbing: Why?

дalex
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:10 PM
:sobbing: Why?

For being 'troll with zero credibility' and damaging Wozniacki's public image? :lol:

Brena
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:11 PM
:sobbing: Why?

Because the mods are idiots? (not to mention the Wozniacki-fans who report such posts...) :shrug:

Brena
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:16 PM
For being 'troll with zero credibility' and damaging Wozniacki's public image? :lol:

:lol:
Do you know what I realised yeterday while reading ancitards' posts in her thread? That we're actually too nice. I don't think any of us (even I, the hater supreme!) has ever been openly rude or insulting about Ana in our posts. OTOH, look at what Serbian ancitards wrote just yeterday about JJ. They insult JJ while we just make fun of Ana. So I realised I should respect us more for being so classy. :inlove:

дalex
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:35 PM
:lol:
Do you know what I realised yeterday while reading ancitards' posts in her thread? That we're actually too nice. I don't think any of us (even I, the hater supreme!) has ever been openly rude or insulting about Ana in our posts. OTOH, look at what Serbian ancitards wrote just yeterday about JJ. They insult JJ while we just make fun of Ana. So I realised I should respect us more for being so classy. :inlove:

I know! That has been my point all this time, they never seem able to point to those extremely rude, insulting and hateful posts made by you, Ma and I (although I've never had these complaints about me that I know of :lol:). They just say haters, haters whenever they see us. Or even before, so naturally we come in to annoy some of them a bit.

Brena
Dec 27th, 2010, 12:43 PM
I know! That has been my point all this time, they never seem able to point to those extremely rude, insulting and hateful posts made by you, Ma and I (although I've never had these complaints about me that I know of :lol:). They just say haters, haters whenever they see us. Or even before, so naturally we come in to annoy some of them a bit.

Well, neither you nor Ma are Ana-haters, that's the funniest part. I am a hater all right, but my restraint and classiness are remarkable. Me :bowdown:

MaBaker
Dec 27th, 2010, 02:15 PM
:sobbing: Why?
For being 'troll with zero credibility' and damaging Wozniacki's public image? :lol:
The whole world is against me http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/sad15.gif
Well, neither you nor Ma are Ana-haters, that's the funniest part. I am a hater all right, but my restraint and classiness are remarkable. Me :bowdown:
And they always blame us for everything http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/sad15.gif

<Majmun>
Dec 27th, 2010, 02:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByDonPUDjf4

:haha::haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdqXu46VwF0

:rolls: you don't need Comedy Central when you have youtube.

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 27th, 2010, 03:08 PM
That ,,vaginal thrush'' word is used very well as I see.
It came from me, so I think I'm going to protect author's rights.

-NAJ-
Dec 27th, 2010, 03:18 PM
hHcSZbMR4ls

:haha:

Brena
Dec 27th, 2010, 03:27 PM
The whole world is against me http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/sad15.gif

And they always blame us for everything http://smileyjungle.com/smilies/sad15.gif

You should change your nick to BlameMa. :tears:

Caralenko
Dec 27th, 2010, 03:27 PM
We should change to The Green Gremlin's Lair :hearts:

<Majmun>
Dec 27th, 2010, 03:49 PM
hHcSZbMR4ls

:haha:

koji je to jezik? :confused:

Brena
Dec 27th, 2010, 03:54 PM
hHcSZbMR4ls

:haha:

:sobbing: Are you channeling Martin, NAJ?

We should change to The Green Gremlin's Lair :hearts:

Well, it depends on what she'll wear next season. But I do like the idea of Anta always dressing her in green from now on. Anatards would get panic-attacks as soon as they see her every time. :hearts:

Just Do It
Dec 27th, 2010, 04:16 PM
GM is on fire lately. We need our " haters (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=318161)" thread back !!

Safe-From-Harm
Dec 27th, 2010, 05:18 PM
There is such a mess in off season Ana cheering thread.
I just read ,,Srbija'''s statements and statistics about MaBaker and sanja ernman.

I wanted once to write something on Ana's subforum, beacuse I used to like her and now I quite don't care ( but DON'T HATE), like feeling sommetimes sorry for her.

But I must admit, it seems to me like I really don't belong there.

Brena
Dec 27th, 2010, 05:26 PM
There is such a mess in off season Ana cheering thread.
I just read ,,Srbija'''s statements and statistics about MaBaker and sanja ernman.

I wanted once to write something on Ana's subforum, beacuse I used to like her and now I quite don't care ( but DON'T HATE), like feeling sommetimes sorry for her.

But I must admit, it seems to me like I really don't belong there.

Nooooo! :bigcry:
I'll read it tomorrow. :awww:

дalex
Dec 27th, 2010, 06:26 PM
Y'all trolls and haterz are not welcome there! Only I can drop in from time to time. :ras: