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mk27
Sep 20th, 2010, 04:05 PM
$75,000 Shrewsbury

(8)Eva Birnerova (CZE) v Sarah Gronert (GER)
(Q)Richel Hogenkamp (NED) v (Q)Fatma Al Nabhani (OMA)
Heather Watson (GBR) v Cagla Buyukakcay (TUR)
(2)Sabine Lisicki (GER) v (Q)Michaela Honcova (SVK)

Michael!
Sep 20th, 2010, 04:10 PM
She just has to reach the final there, a defeat against Barrois would be bad but no drama, a defeat against any other player of her draw would be :help:
I know that her grandmother died last week, but still, she just has to reach the final there, would be really disappointing if she would lose earlier...

hellas719
Sep 21st, 2010, 01:49 AM
Go Sabs! :cheer:
Watson scares me :unsure:

Sabinator.
Sep 21st, 2010, 09:26 AM
From FB:

I am in England now. I'm going to play the tournament in Shrewsbury. My grandmother would have wanted me to play this tournament. So I'll go out there and simply do my best!

Go Sabine!!! :hug:

Jogi
Sep 21st, 2010, 12:41 PM
first ITF-tournament since? (apart from GS)

mk27
Sep 21st, 2010, 12:45 PM
first ITF-tournament since? (apart from GS)

75k Dubai in December 2007

DiscoStick
Sep 21st, 2010, 05:33 PM
If Sabine wants to play then she should play. Good luck :)

crazillo
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:09 PM
she did play bronx though...

Carsten
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:39 PM
Sabine Lisicki (Ger) bt Michaela Honcova (Svk) 1-6 6-2 7-5

don't know what to think about the result... maybe she didn't practice too much the last days? But at least some match practice..

Michael!
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:43 PM
:unsure: eww, well, she won a 3 set match at least :eek: :tape:

Yeah, don´t know, maybe she wasnt 100% focused still, hope she plays better tomorrow, Watson is much better player than Honcova, she definetly has to improve, well, hopefully she will..

mk27
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:43 PM
Can't see her beating Watson. :o

Carsten
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:48 PM
Can't see her beating Watson. :o

1-2% chance like against Vandeweghe? :)

mk27
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:51 PM
1-2% chance like against Vandeweghe? :)

She was nearly beaten by Honcova :tape:

Carsten
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:54 PM
I'm sure she nearly beat herself :lol:

Michael!
Sep 21st, 2010, 07:56 PM
well, Lisicki can only beat herself this week, it all depends on her, if she plays decent she will win, hopefully she can improve

mk27
Sep 21st, 2010, 08:00 PM
IMO the final set was just too close. A bad first set is okay but after an easy 2nd set, she should win the final set easily.

First 3-set match won since Bali last November.

Michael!
Sep 21st, 2010, 08:02 PM
IMO the final set was just too close. A bad first set is okay but after an easy 2nd set, she should win the final set easily.

First 3-set match won since Bali last November.

I hope that she was at least 1-5 down or sth, would have been great fight then :lol:

Dorien.
Sep 21st, 2010, 08:25 PM
Pfewwww Sabine :)

CillyUltra
Sep 21st, 2010, 09:07 PM
Probably shouldn't be overestimated under these circumstances. We know nothing about her preparation.

But anyway, if she loses tomorrow on her birthday...:hysteric:

And the last time she won 2 matches in a row, was nearly a year ago. :( So, important match tomorrow.

cosmoose
Sep 21st, 2010, 10:18 PM
I'm happy for Bine. This win must mean a lot to her after her granny's passing.

hellas719
Sep 22nd, 2010, 02:15 AM
Sabine :)

Sasja
Sep 22nd, 2010, 05:24 AM
Sabine :)

Very close, but glad she could finish it. Important for her to win that match.
2nd round vs Heather Watson.

BTW: Happy B-day Sabine :aparty:

mk27
Sep 22nd, 2010, 03:54 PM
Lost the first set 6-7 after serving for the set at 6-5

Even 75k tournaments are too tough for her :rolleyes:

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 03:58 PM
It is really just bad now, nothing else, not over yet but if she loses this match, as I said, really disappointing and just weak even if her grandmother died last week, surely not great for her, but still, should always beat a player like Watson :o

67 01*

after *10, *21 and *65 in 1st set, well done, Sabine, you can be proud of yourself :) :rolleyes:

mk27
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:04 PM
Lisicki kann bald mit Grönefeld auf Turnierreise gehen. Ich sehe bald eher Malek wieder in den Top 100 als Grönefeld und Lisicki (die nach Bali ziemlich abstürzen wird).

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:07 PM
macht eben da weiter, wo sie vor ihrer Verletzung aufgehört hat, vergibt reihenweise Führungen, also mental einfach ganz schwach, klar, kann man das jetzt auch mit der fehlenden Matchpraxis begründen, aber es war ja vor der Verletzung auch nicht besser!

cosmoose
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:07 PM
do you guys have a link to live scoring?

Carsten
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:08 PM
do you guys have a link to live scoring?

no livescores, but scores are posted in the tournament-thread (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=18557251#post18557251)

mk27
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:09 PM
do you guys have a link to live scoring?

A British user makes updates in the tournament thread

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=418959&page=11

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:11 PM
67 14* against Watson :silly:

cosmoose
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:12 PM
thanks guys.

maybe this guy is lying?
maybe Sabine is winning comfortably?

hehe, I can dream right? ;)

mk27
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:15 PM
Time for Lisicki to go to 25k tournaments. Nearly one year ago since she won 2 matches in a row. :o

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:18 PM
It seems like she has no serve at all again, I mean, she got broken now at least 5 times, probably even more, against a player like Watson, that is just too much..:(
And when she has her chances, like in first set, she just cant take those and then it is difficult to stay focused after you wasted so many chances, like Sabine did in first set

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:23 PM
Watson def. Lisicki 7/6 6/2
no words for that, really horrible,sorry Sabine but that really is only :o

mk27
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:24 PM
Awful form like Grönefeld :o

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:32 PM
:fiery:
hopefully can get a clear head now, 1 week break and then another 75k tournament in GBR, there she definetly has to show more, otherwise it really looks bad for now, as I said, in such a weak field it actually shouldn´t be a problem at all for a player like Sabine to reach the final, sure, Watson wasnt the easiest opponent, especially in front of homecrowd, but still had to be beatable, I actually don´t know how sensitive Sabine is, maybe the death of her grandmother is still in her head too much, that she still can´t focuse 100%, but as I said, one week off now, then she has to show more...

CillyUltra
Sep 22nd, 2010, 04:42 PM
Not totally unexpected after the match yesterday. Don't think we should take this too serious under this circumstances. IMO Barnstable will be a better indicator for her shape.

macht eben da weiter, wo sie vor ihrer Verletzung aufgehört hat, vergibt reihenweise Führungen, also mental einfach ganz schwach, klar, kann man das jetzt auch mit der fehlenden Matchpraxis begründen, aber es war ja vor der Verletzung auch nicht besser!

She didn't had much match experience before the injury too.

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 05:03 PM
2010 is one disaster anyway for Sabine, started great with the win against Dementieva and after that it actually only got worse, so she was in bad shape anyway before injury, but she worked at least hard during her injury break, I think that she is fitter than before but that alone isnt enough, she just needs a few wins now to get some confidence back but as I said, even before her injury she lost to players like Shvedova, Brianti or Tanasugarn, so we will have to wait to see how strong she can become again at all..

crazillo
Sep 22nd, 2010, 05:13 PM
just horrible but i am not sure if this is due to her granny or bad form

Sabinator.
Sep 22nd, 2010, 05:34 PM
Sabine today (September 22) ends 21 years ... And what I could wish you, taking account of what happened today in Shrewsbury ... :crying2: Health, happiness and above all strength and self-denial, to believe in the fulfillment of his dreams ... Maybe this day is not the best to say this, but sometime in the end MUST be good, must come the sun after the storm, must finally turn around a disastrous destiny of fate that still throws a log on the legs and allows you to quickly get up ... Sometimes you just have to wait a difficult time - I know that even from his own experience - that in the end fortunately lucky be able to smile at you... This requires a lot of inner strength and serenity, so that I wish you the best on your birthday ... :hug: :smooch:


It's good in the future, when the evil has already turned his card, said, that it was at her sympathy in the worst moments ... I would wait for a moment like this........ :sad:

shrOOf
Sep 22nd, 2010, 06:03 PM
Horrible.

Dorien.
Sep 22nd, 2010, 06:43 PM
Sabine :hug: This has to be tough mentally :hug:

Michael!
Sep 22nd, 2010, 07:33 PM
yeah she was deffinately not moving very well, was a shame to see her missing shots and not being in position when forced to run.

still not enough confidence, still too careful on court as of her ankle injury it seems..

CillyUltra
Sep 22nd, 2010, 09:42 PM
this was a pretty tight match for the 1st set, both dropped serve tamely early on and lisicki seemed to have some groove and the upper hand for some parts of the 1st set. but she went through patches of errors and got broken back serving for the set missing a short forehand. heather played consistent and was trying to dictate whenever she had a chance. the tie break saw them both drop shotting and this played into watson's hands. 2nd set lisicki got very wild and watson kept steady and came up with a few nice winners. by far the biggest crowd for the day....
got lisicki to sign a ball for my friend tony, who was oogling her legs, and she was lovely. she was very smiley and said she had brought the good weather we are having with her.
relaxed Sabine after the match :eek: :D

Tennis Observer
Sep 23rd, 2010, 11:07 AM
After Sabine defeated Caroline Wozniacki in Charleston last year and won her first WTA titel, "ARD" (TV station) asked if she will be new Steffi Graf, "Bild" compared her to Boris Becker ("Fräulein Bum-Bum") and FED Cup Captain Barbara Rittner praised her talent ("a top ten player"). At AO 2008 (qualified and lost in R3 to Caro) Sabine herself mentioned her goal: "number one in the world". Then QF in Wimbledon (defeated Caro and lost to Diara Safina 1:6 in third) her drama in R2 at Flushing Medows, her five months break after an ankle injury and a lot of very happy camper after a 6:1, 6:1 victory to Coco Vandewehge at US Open. Are we all too excited and do we all expect to much from her?

Playing professional Tennis is a brutal job. Sabine (# 90, 738 points), who lost her final in Luxembourg to Timea 2:6, 5:7 last year, was not offered a WC and has to play in qualifying round there (Tournament director: Danielle Coster-Maas: "Wir konnten ihr leider keine Wild Card mehr geben. Wir drücken ihr fest die Daumen, dass sie ins Hauptfeld kommt").

420 points (Luxemburg, Tokyo, Bali) are in jeopardy.

Fräuleinwunder – made in USA (http://www.faz.net/s/Rub9CD731D06F17450CB39BE001000DD173/Doc~ED84188B6FA3D4EBEBD14BC586B2DD388~ATpl~Ecommon ~Scontent.html) (German "FAZ", 4/20/09)
Entwarnung nach dem Matchball-Drama (http://www.sport1.de/de/tennis/tennis_grand_slams/artikel_147897.html) (German "sport 1", 9/04/09)
Lisicki: Vom Shootingstar zum Sorgenkind (http://www.rp-online.de/sport/mehr/tennis/Lisicki-Vom-Shootingstar-zum-Sorgenkind_aid_846897.html)(German "RP", 4/20/10)
Berlins Tennis-Star Sabine Lisicki kämpft um ihre Karriere: Ich kann vor Schmerzen oft nicht schlafen (http://www.bild.de/BILD/sport/mehr-sport/tennis/2010/06/08/sabine-lisicki/kann-vor-schmerzen-kaum-schlafen.html)(Interview in German "Bild", 6/08/10)
Vorsicht macht den Champion (http://www.tagesspiegel.de/sport/vorsicht-macht-den-champion/1897444.html) (German "Tagesspiegel", 8/04/10)
US Open Stories: Sabine Lisicki – endlich wieder zu Hause (http://tennismagazin.de/tour_exklusiv/detail.php?object_id=167073&class=22&pid=1) (German "Tennismagazin, 9/01/10)
Sabine Lisicki sagt leise "Hallo" (http://www.volksfreund.de/sport/sportmix/nachrichten/Aus-der-Region-Luxemburg;art161262,2554710) (German in "Luxemburger Tagblatt", 9/22/10)

cosmoose
Sep 23rd, 2010, 12:17 PM
This is Sabine Lisicki forum right?
This is where her fans congregate and support her?

I wasn't too sure because of all the GLOOM AND DOOM lately. :help:
http://www.webejeepin.com/images/TechTips/panic_button-lg.jpg

Sabine is coming back from injury that lasted many months with multiple setbacks.
It is so understandable that she will take her comeback slowly.
How can she not be rusty after playing so little??

So many here are focusing only on her recent losses.
But I like to look at the glass half full. She came very close to beating Bepa at US Open, who then went on to the finals.

I have faith in her.

CillyUltra
Sep 23rd, 2010, 01:47 PM
Are we all too excited and do we all expect to much from her?
It isn't something, to be worried about, if there are big up and downturns after an injury.
420 points (Luxemburg, Tokyo, Bali) are in jeopardy.
After she started her comeback, it was clear, that she won't be able to defend much of her points of the remaining season. IMO it's also not her biggest problem, if she loses that points.

CillyUltra
Sep 23rd, 2010, 01:51 PM
This is Sabine Lisicki forum right?
This is where her fans congregate and support her?

I wasn't too sure because of all the GLOOM AND DOOM lately. :help:
http://www.webejeepin.com/images/TechTips/panic_button-lg.jpg

Sabine is coming back from injury that lasted many months with multiple setbacks.
It is so understandable that she will take her comeback slowly.
How can she not be rusty after playing so little??

So many here are focusing only on her recent losses.
But I like to look at the glass half full. She came very close to beating Bepa at US Open, who then went on to the finals.

I have faith in her.

It's just typically German. :rolleyes:

btw great picture

Michael!
Sep 23rd, 2010, 01:58 PM
It's just typically German. :rolleyes:



yes it is :D
and so what? I am German, proud German :D

And fans are different, some always think positive, others think more negative, it is always good to have both kind of fans, I mean, I am one who doesnt accept too much, yeah, but then it is at least easy to surprise me in a positive way :)

But what I said is true for me, Sabine wasnt in great shape anyway, even before her injury, and yeah, she played decent against Vera, but to be honest, Vera played terrible against Sabine, we just have to admit that and as I said before, also possible that the death of her grandmother still is in her head, so we have to be patient, yeah, but she has to show more, at least from 2011 we cant use her injury as excuse anymore..

DiscoStick
Sep 23rd, 2010, 05:51 PM
:hug: Please take some time.

cosmoose
Sep 23rd, 2010, 07:03 PM
I apologize for my rant.
I guess its my way of showing frustration over Sabine's struggles.

IMO, her comeback needs two things to happen
1. She needs to have complete trust in her ankles.
2. She needs confidence in her game.

It'll take some time but Sabine is definitely a hard worker and she seems to carry positive attitude despite setbacks.
So I'm hopeful. :)

mk27
Oct 4th, 2010, 02:56 PM
No Barnstaple for Lisicki :o :rolleyes:

Hi everybody, I´ve been in bed with fever the last 4 days trying to get healthy and okay to go to Barnstaple but I´m still recovering... My next tournament is going to be Torhout/ Belgium next week.



Jede Woche was neues. :tape:

Omega1
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:16 PM
Sabine :hug: come back fast. We miss you :hearts:

Michael!
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:24 PM
:(
wow, she is really unlucky with injuries/illnesses....well, not that important right now anyway, I think she needs some more practice anyway, so she better works hard this week and comes back 100% fit in Belgium, but the EL is strong there and in her current shape it will be even tough for her to win some matches there..:tape:

mk27
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:26 PM
She should really play in Poitiers and Ismaning after Luxembourg because she needs points. She will drop to 170/180 after Luxembourg and Bali points coming off.

Michael!
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:43 PM
She should really play in Poitiers and Ismaning after Luxembourg because she needs points. She will drop to 170/180 after Luxembourg and Bali points coming off.

yeah, but she is still so insecured on court, as long as that doesnt change she will have problems to win some matches, I remember that one moonball from Zvonareva where Sabine even tried to get to the ball and posters from England said that Sabine moved terrible in her matches there..I hope she gets more and more confidence in her body back while she trains and with each match she plays, but a long way to go it seems!

pan
Oct 4th, 2010, 07:06 PM
I am German, proud German :D

OMG! Jesus freaks freakin out!! :o

Sasja
Oct 4th, 2010, 07:23 PM
Sabine :sobbing:
Hope she feels better soon. She is so unlucky :hug:

I hope she decides to play a few more tournaments this year. Trying to end the year on a positieve note and this way getting a bit more confidence when preparing for the new season. Ismaning (50k) and Nantes (50k) could be good tournaments for her in November.

Michael!
Oct 4th, 2010, 07:30 PM
OMG! Jesus freaks freakin out!! :o

geht´s noch?
Hab das nur gesagt, da es davor oft hieß "typisch deutsch", "typisch deutsch" und alles was schlecht ist, ist halt typisch deutsch..muss ich mich jetzt dafür entschuldigen, dass ich stolz auf mein Land bin? Andere Länder sind wesentlich patriotischer, nur wir werden gleich blöd angemacht und jetzt sogar schon von den eigenen Landsleuten, ja, dann, Glückwunsch!


Doch zum Grundverständnis der Deutschen von sich selbst gibt die am Mittwoch vorgestellte Studie einiges her. 59,3 Prozent der Deutschen sagen mittlerweile: "Ich bin stolz, Deutscher zu sein."

Aber echt, wie konnte ich mir nur das Recht herausnehmen uns sagen, dass ich stolz bin Deutscher zu sein, wenn nur 60% meine Ansicht teilen :eek:

pan
Oct 4th, 2010, 08:48 PM
geht´s noch?
Hab das nur gesagt, da es davor oft hieß "typisch deutsch", "typisch deutsch" und alles was schlecht ist, ist halt typisch deutsch..muss ich mich jetzt dafür entschuldigen, dass ich stolz auf mein Land bin? Andere Länder sind wesentlich patriotischer, nur wir werden gleich blöd angemacht und jetzt sogar schon von den eigenen Landsleuten, ja, dann, Glückwunsch!



Aber echt, wie konnte ich mir nur das Recht herausnehmen uns sagen, dass ich stolz bin Deutscher zu sein, wenn nur 60% meine Ansicht teilen :eek:

Jesus freaks kann ich nicht ernst nehmen. Sorry. Und man kann nicht stolz auf etwas sein, für das man nichts kann. Vielleicht glücklich oder froh, aber nicht stolz. Das erklärt schon der Menschenverstand.
Und denkst du echt, eine Zahl beeindruckt mich? Dann kann ich dir nur beipflichten und darauf verweisen, dass ein Großteil der Deutschen auch blind in eine Sarrazinpartei eintreten würde. Und hier wirds gefährlich! Und hier beende ich die Diskussion.
Ach ja - und komm mir nicht mit "eigene Landsleute"! Wir mögen einen gleichen Pass haben - aber deshalb haben wir noch lange gar nichts gemeinsam.

CillyUltra
Oct 4th, 2010, 08:49 PM
She should really play in Poitiers and Ismaning after Luxembourg because she needs points. She will drop to 170/180 after Luxembourg and Bali points coming off.

It's rubbish to look after the ranking in her situation. If she finds back to her shape, she will rise again in the ranking quickly, if not, then she won't...

geht´s noch?
Hab das nur gesagt, da es davor oft hieß "typisch deutsch", "typisch deutsch" und alles was schlecht ist, ist halt typisch deutsch..muss ich mich jetzt dafür entschuldigen, dass ich stolz auf mein Land bin?

IMO "typically German" is a catchphrase that ironically takes on perceived German quirks, but isn't pejorative towards patriotism.

Michael!
Oct 4th, 2010, 08:56 PM
Jesus freaks kann ich nicht ernst nehmen. Sorry. Und man kann nicht stolz auf etwas sein, für das man nichts kann. Vielleicht glücklich oder froh, aber nicht stolz. Das erklärt schon der Menschenverstand.
Und denkst du echt, eine Zahl beeindruckt mich? Dann kann ich dir nur beipflichten und darauf verweisen, dass ein Großteil der Deutschen auch blind in eine Sarrazinpartei eintreten würde. Und hier wirds gefährlich! Und hier beende ich die Diskussion.
Ach ja - und komm mir nicht mit "eigene Landsleute"! Wir mögen einen gleichen Pass haben - aber deshalb haben wir noch lange gar nichts gemeinsam.

und so einen wie du der mit solchen Statesments kommt kann ich auch nicht ernst nehmen und ich bin dankbar, dass ich mit dir nichts gemeinsam hab und wenn dir dein Pass nicht gefällt, dann kannst du auch auswandern...boah, über solche typen wie dich könnte man sich echt aufregen, aber würde sich ohnehin nicht lohnen, am Besten ich versteck mich in der Ecke und entschuldige micht dafür, dass ich Deutsch bin....und was hat das jetzt mit dem Jesus Freaks zu tun, auch nicht viel,oder?

crazillo
Oct 4th, 2010, 09:18 PM
sorry, this discussion is totally useless here, it's about sabine lisicki and nothing else. please continue discussing your private issues somewhere else...

mk27
Oct 4th, 2010, 09:19 PM
It's rubbish to look after the ranking in her situation. If she finds back to her shape, she will rise again in the ranking quickly, if not, then she won't...

She has more points to defend in Melbourne and could fall out of the top 200. So she needs definitely some points this year, otherwise she can play 25k tournaments with players like Ozga, Klaschka or Siegemund next year.

Michael!
Oct 4th, 2010, 09:27 PM
sorry, this discussion is totally useless here, it's about sabine lisicki and nothing else. please continue discussing your private issues somewhere else...

yes, you are right, I am actually one who says that to others as well, when they discuss, in this case I just had to defend myself as he attacked me , not the other way round, but if he feels the need now to reply again, he should do that over PM, I am always open for that kind of discussion to explain my view...

Back to Sabine, I just hope that she keeps the faith in herself and that she will stays strong in this hard time!

Carsten
Oct 4th, 2010, 10:29 PM
:help:


Sabine should take some time to recover and come back strong next week! :)

DiscoStick
Oct 6th, 2010, 01:39 AM
When is Barnstaple? Next week?

Sasja
Oct 6th, 2010, 05:30 AM
When is Barnstaple? Next week?

Barnstaple is this week, but Sabine had to WD due to illness (fever). Hopefully she will be back 100% healthy next week for 100k tournament in Belgium, Torhout.

DiscoStick
Oct 6th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Barnstaple is this week, but Sabine had to WD due to illness (fever). Hopefully she will be back 100% healthy next week for 100k tournament in Belgium, Torhout.

Thanks. Hope Sabine gets better. But maybe she should just take the rest of the year off and have a break, and start training in November. Come back stronger next season. Just my opinion...