View Full Version : is mikaelian the real deal?

Oct 17th, 2002, 12:59 AM
i think she is. she is one of the new breed and we don't know her full potential but she has had some great wins. in one tournament she beat farina elia, hantuchova and smashnova. she has also beaten dementieva and tulyaganova. in another tournament she consecutively beat Pelletier, shaughnessy, maleeva and farina elia. and has just recently in zurich beaten maleeva once agaiin and myskina.

i think she will be a consistent top 15 performer but i'm not quite sure that she can be in the top 10 at least not for long periods of time.

Oct 17th, 2002, 01:23 AM
I have never seen her play. What we must remember is only 10 people can be in the top ten. Alot of people say "so and so is a top ten player" but if you were to count the number of times some people say that (maybe I am included I don't know), they end up with like 15 or 20 "top ten" players. :eek:

Randy H
Oct 17th, 2002, 01:27 AM
she's got big shots, and when they are on, they are very dangerous.

i think she needs to improve fitness though, if she can't do that i don't think she will make top 10. would also be good to see her develop a bit more depth in her game still, too.

Oct 17th, 2002, 01:41 AM
mboyle, when people say "sos and so is a top ten player" then they mean they have the potential to be in the top ten. obviously when players are young it is hard to tell what their true potential is. generally people say this about players who make upsets over the top ten players. like smashnova has beaten dokic, clijsters and henin this year but isn't even in the top 15.

Oct 17th, 2002, 04:49 AM
She is too one-dimensional! Plus, she is very predictable and not very fast! If she can work on that, why not!

Oct 17th, 2002, 10:49 AM
Randy is very right.

I've seen her play, and she played great then, but she relies on her serve a lot. She's on of those players who need to have a good day to win.

Oct 17th, 2002, 11:55 AM
Hmmm. I heard she improved her fittness alot since Quebec though, and like I said, I have never seen her play, but she seems to have a good solid Lindsay Davenport type power game. (Three weapons+limited movement) The difference I guess would be that Lindsay must have the world's softest hands and can create any angle or any amount of depth she chooses from any part of the court-especially out wide. As I pondered why so many players with Lindsay's style of play don't reach top ten, I decided that Lindsay's hands were her biggest advantage.

Oct 17th, 2002, 12:28 PM
Great potential but must lose some weight, just like her fellow country girl Myriam Casanova.

Concerning top ten, that's really possible but it would take I think at least one more year, and weight lost.

The Vampiress
Oct 18th, 2002, 04:58 AM
Most of the young Swiss have alot of potential to do well on the tour.

Mikaelian is a young up and comer, she has got good shots and a good serve, and when her serve is on fire then shes on fire, Her fitness is a bit wobbly but over time she will be alot fitter.

I always thought Daniela and Myriam Casanova would be the next Sisters but things don't look to bright for Daniela.

Some other good Swiss players are Romina Oprandi, Nelly Iglacieas, Mark Zoro.

Oct 18th, 2002, 09:20 AM
Just the raw talent alone is why both Marie and Myriam are finding success.

But I am gonna fearlessly say that if both hit the gym and learn more about how to play a better game, Switzerland is gonna have to very fearsome players contending for the top.

The Vampiress
Oct 18th, 2002, 09:24 AM
exactly, Switzerland put more money into tennis per capita of any other countries. Hingis, Schnyder are just a few names that have been very good tennis players with their own unique kind of games.

Oct 18th, 2002, 09:38 AM
Because I haven't got much clue on the Casanova sisters, what is the essential difference between them that places Myriam in the Top 50 or thereabouts and Daniela in the nether regions of the rankings?

Interesting comment about Lindsay's hands being the discerning factor in her success.... never really thought about it like that....

The Vampiress
Oct 18th, 2002, 10:03 AM
Hi there Monica :)

Daniela and Myriam look quite Identical. Believe it or not Myriam is younger then Daniela. They played Doubles together and produced very good results. Big Sister (Daniela) has actually a better head to head record (I think in Juniors) and they have not played each other at the professional level yet. Myriam a much harder hitter then Daniela. Daniela just needs to get more practice in and She should be in the top 100 by the end of the season 2003/2004 sometime around there.

Oct 18th, 2002, 10:39 AM
she needs to cut out the swiss cheese. same for Casanova. these girls are about 10kg too heavy and it will hurt their progress in these early years of their careers.

look at Davenport, she came onto the tour in 1992, and had the power, temperament and skill to be top-5, but instead wallowed around 6-15 for about 4-5 years, mainly because of being too heavy.

The Vampiress
Oct 18th, 2002, 10:52 AM
Heres a Picture of Myriam http://www.sanexwta.com/assets/personnel_image/mug528.jpg

It's not to good but it says she ways 70 kilograms. still 10-15 Kg to Heavy.

Oct 18th, 2002, 11:01 AM
From what i have seen from Marie she hits the ball so hard but can miss a lot.Her forhand is so extreme that she miss hits its a lot.She also is much better going down the line than crasscourt,her movement is bad but she improve on it.If she gets more consistant i see no reason why she shouldn't be top 20

Oct 18th, 2002, 11:56 AM
I invite you all to visist "the mikaelian initiative" in the players' section, we need more people there!

Oct 18th, 2002, 04:22 PM
I havent seen Mikaelian before, is she about the same size as Myriam? I think Myriam reminds me a bit of the old Lindsay Davenport, she has a lot of weight and hits very hard, and once she trims down and cuts her unforced errors she will be a force in the game. I dont know about MGM.

Oct 18th, 2002, 04:35 PM
It is so difficult to make the top ten these days. Look at the year Hantuchova's had and she only made the top ten this week. Look at Rubin's results this summer and she has yet to crack the top ten. It's going to take some doing for these girls to get there anytime soon.

And if they think that they can do it in their present physical condition they are sorely mistaken. Seles is about the only player out there who can stay competetive with the top players week in and week out while being completely out of shape. They are both hard hitters though, and if they can add another dimension to their game (ala Clijsters) they definitely can cause some damage. Funny to me that these two new up and coming Swiss players styles bear no resemblance to their two predecessors Hingis and Schnyder.

Tatiana Panova
Oct 18th, 2002, 10:39 PM
She is young and she is still developing.

She is an unbelievable striker of the ball with very good rotation. Her backhand is worldclass. Her forehand is very western and very muscled, which ultimately could hold her back. She has a decent serve which could be a lot better. She is not a natural athlete and needs to improve her movement. Yeah I think she is one for the future, say top 20, because I just feel that she is too one-dimensional and there will be a lot more of the new breed who move a lot better than she does.