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Lubidani
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:24 AM
Just a hypothetical question :D

england_rules
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:29 AM
i think she would play for the love of the game!!!!

Sam L
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:29 AM
Of course not!

Venus Forever
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:30 AM
NOPE!!

selesrules
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:32 AM
No. Why would she play in a country where someone can try to kill her in front of thousands of witnesses (millions since it was taped) and then that person remains free. There are people who went to jail because they hurt a dog or a cat. Monica should respect herself and stay out of Germany.

schris
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:10 AM
I`m not sure she would play...

Vincent
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:13 AM
no and never

Gowza
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:17 AM
no

BasicTennis
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:21 AM
a GS event can certainly be held successfully even without her presence.

disposablehero
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:29 AM
...but apparently not a Tour Championship

1-0-1-18

The people have spoken. And I suspect they are quite correct.

BasicTennis
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:37 AM
in the future, I hope she will allow her children to play in Germany granting that they'll be as good as their Tennis Mama.

gentenaire
Oct 16th, 2002, 07:17 AM
No
She didn't play the Chase when it was held in Germany.

wongqks
Oct 16th, 2002, 07:22 AM
She will be embraced in GErmany, but she won't play

Mattographer
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:45 AM
German tournaments with crowd are poor...

BB
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by AlexSydney
German tournaments with crowd are poor...

YOU ARE POOR!:mad:

irma
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:14 AM
I don't know, maybe if the german open is a grand slam and Monica had won it three times like she did the french and she had a special connection with it. the step to go back would have been lower as it is now. Of course I don't know if this would be true and I am awarded that there is also a sort of proud that she doesn't play in German anymore(I don't mean that in a bad way)

just a thought!

The masters was not in Germany before so that's different then when it would have been a slam wich was there already when she played.

Mattographer
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:15 AM
Honestly, I like these tournaments... but look at these crowd... there are not many people attended.

BB
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by AlexSydney
Honestly, I like these tournaments... but look at these crowd... there are not many people attended.


Where? Didn't you saw the crowed house in Filderstadt???

Mattographer
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:20 AM
No, I never seen Filderstadt on television. Did you saw the crowd in Berlin? It was almost half of empty.

BB
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:23 AM
I was there, in Berlin. true this year it wasn't that crowed at the final weekend. The weather was bad, but the years before it was good.

BB
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:24 AM
Did you saw the crowd in Moscow? No? Right there was none during the week. The TV guys said he counted 25 ppl plus coaches on Tuesday lol

Mattographer
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:26 AM
The weather was bad? OK, how about Munich last year? I understand German don't attended these tournaments more because of Anke and Stefanie retired.

Mattographer
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by BB
Did you saw the crowd in Moscow? No? Right there was none during the week. The TV guys said he counted 25 ppl plus coaches on Tuesday lol
Really? LOL!! Which court was that?

BB
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:51 AM
Centre Court, was in TV :D

Mattographer
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:53 AM
:o

what_about_me
Oct 16th, 2002, 12:41 PM
HELL NO!:mad:

Why would she play in a country were the legal system let her down, were a man can stab somebody walk free and the person who was stabbed feel victimised.

Monica wasn't even award damages! She was well on her way to becoming the best and then it all ended!

So the answer to the above question is NO!:fiery:

Experimentee
Oct 16th, 2002, 12:49 PM
I dont think she would. However i never understood her Germany boycott, sure she was stabbed there, but then thats something thats not exclusive to Germany. It could have happened anywhere. Every country has its crazy people and theres no reason to believe that Germany is any more dangerous than USA or France or anywhere else, just because the incident happened to occur in Germany.

tommyk75
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:10 PM
Of course not.

Experimentee, sorry, can't see your logic at all. If you went to a house, and somebody who lived there tried to kill you, would you just say "Well, it could've happened anywhere"? Bullshit. You would never go back there. It was the German court system that didn't punish the guy who tried to murder Monica, and if she doesn't want to play there, what's so impossible to understand about that? Give me a break.

By the way, Monica has made it clear that she's not anti-German; she has German friends, and I believe she and Anke Huber were certainly friendly.

Experimentee
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by tommyk75
Of course not.

Experimentee, sorry, can't see your logic at all. If you went to a house, and somebody who lived there tried to kill you, would you just say "Well, it could've happened anywhere"? Bullshit. You would never go back there. It was the German court system that didn't punish the guy who tried to murder Monica, and if she doesn't want to play there, what's so impossible to understand about that? Give me a break.

By the way, Monica has made it clear that she's not anti-German; she has German friends, and I believe she and Anke Huber were certainly friendly.

Comparing it to a house is an inaccurate analogy. If she went to a house and someone tried to kill her there obviously that person in the house has something against her and of course she wouldnt be expected to go back. But its not just a house with one person here its a country with millions of people many of whom are her fans and would like to see her. To me it just seems that shes making all German people suffer when its only one of them that did it. I know she probably doesnt have anything against German people but it just doesnt seem fair to deprive them of seeing her, when they're probably as disgusted with her attack as anyone else. And the fact that he got off because he was found to be mentally unstable is again not only a feature of German courts, like it or not its everywhere.

GoDominique
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:22 PM
This is probably the most hypothetical question I have ever read, at least right now. :rolleyes:

Oh, and I Monica had been in Munich last year, there would have been probably 5 visitors more. There were other reasons why this tournament failed. :rolleyes:

It's Monica's decision not to play in Germany. I understand it, but I don't agree with it.

And some posts here are just :rolleyes:.

vs1
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:26 PM
Monica is too ethical. She will stand behind her beliefs. At the end of the day, it'll just be another tennis tournament, and her beliefs are stronger than that.

CJ07
Oct 16th, 2002, 09:50 PM
Monica said that one day she hopes to return to Germany, so maybe that will kind of be her farewell tournament, wouldnt that be something?

Helen Lawson
Oct 16th, 2002, 09:58 PM
Certainly some freak could have stabbed Monica anywhere and through some technicality bullshit gotten away with it. But it happened to her in Germany and he did get away with it there, not somewhere else. The fact that it could have happened anywhere does not take away from the fact that it in fact happened there. If someone stabbed me in a foreign country and got away with it, I'd be mad as hell and never go back either. She doesn't seem to think Germany is riddled with nuts and the rest of the world is a safe-haven, she is pissed off that the system there let him get away with it, so she washed her hands of playing there. It does not seem irrational to me at all.

Frau Antje
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:06 PM
hey, please stop making fun about our tournaments here in Germany. We all know that German tennis is in a crisis at the moment. But please let us our tournaments - we need them ...

CellJr300
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:24 PM
No, she has already skipped the year-end championships, so she would most likely skip a slam in germany as well.

Messenger
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:30 PM
Which is the tournament that Graf helped create? Filderstadt?

wongqks
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:35 PM
People dun seems to understand why Monica is not playing in Germany.

The reason she is not playing in GErmany is not becuase she got stabbed there. It is becasue that pscho did not get a single day in jail. According to the german judical system. Gunther Parche is mentally unstable enough to not serve jail, and at the same time he is sane enough to not need to send to mental hospital. Also apparently 1 witness didn't see Gunther Parche try to stab Monica twice when there are about 50 other witnesses state otherwise and they give her the 'benefit of the doubt' bullshit
I hope people can understand the situation a little bit more before jumping into conclusion so quickly

wongqks
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:36 PM
and just to set the record straight, Monica said that she knows friends in Germany and she would love to visit the country, also she said that she is very touched by many German fans who send letters to her. HSe said she think she will visit the country again one day but just not playing.

GoDominique
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:43 PM
I think people understand it, but still some believe that playing here again would have advantages as well.

wongqks
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by GoDominique
I think people understand it, but still some they believe the playing here again would have advantages as well.

GoDominque, if you look at some of the posters's post like Experimentee, you have to doubt otherwise

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:13 PM
NO

joaco
Oct 17th, 2002, 12:06 AM
I think Monica wouldn't abandon her principles... I quite sure she wouldn't play...

Joaco

DutchieGirl
Oct 17th, 2002, 04:44 AM
No, I don't think she would!

Miranda
Oct 17th, 2002, 07:59 AM
NEVER :fiery: