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Seles1
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:30 AM
www.espn.go.com/tennis/news/2002/1015/ (www.espn.go.com/tennis/news/2002/1015)


in this article it says that Dokic will not play the Australian Open or any other tournament in Australia.

Seles1
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:31 AM
it's not coming up just go to www.espn.com/tennis and click on the link on the left hand side for the story.

sorry

tennisIlove09
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:38 AM
This is part of the article:

Having played more tournaments this season then any other top 10 player, the world No. 6 also said she will cut down her schedule for 2003. She has played over 70 singles matches this year and 35 doubles.

Although Dokic beat Iva Majoli in the first round of the Swisscom Challenge, she had lost in the opening round of her previous three tournaments.

"I've been very tired and it's just a matter of playing too much," she said. "I've really felt tired the last few months, especially since the U.S. Open.

"I haven't had a really good break, which I should have done during the year. It's something to learn from and I'll not do it next year.



Now here's my question:

If Dokic is cutting back her season, why is she cutting out a Grand Slam? If she wants to get back to the #4 ranking...and actually deserve it, she needs to perform well at the big events. I don't understand why she is skipping a slam!

WhatTheDeuce
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:39 AM
i agree...just because you dont represent that country anymore doesnt mean you never play in that country again...especially since its a grand slam! COME ON JECA!!!!

2284
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:47 AM
It's not like it's a huge shock. We knew that she wouldn't come back

SeReNa
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:51 AM
Good going Jelena. I say with more rest she will be a force in this game no matter how much people on here think she is over rated. She is a very talented player. Best of luck Jelena

Berlin_Calling
Oct 16th, 2002, 01:53 AM
:rolleyes:

Sam L
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:01 AM
Are we meant to be surprised?

I'll be surprised when she finally realises one day what a mistake she's be doing all along and comes back to play in Australia.

LeonHart
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:04 AM
Jelena doesn't like Austrailia, ever since her dad was kicked out of the stadium and changed her nat. to yugoslavian. :rolleyes:

Messenger
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:09 AM
Hahaha, I love this girl. She's completely nuts.

Gowza
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:14 AM
she doesn't like australia because a couple of years ago the media kept saying her father was a problem and were really saying some bad things about him. that same year at the Oz open she was drawn against davenport in the first round and from then on she kept saying the draw was rigged and would never come back

2284
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:22 AM
Her father is a problem. Have you not heard about why Damir has been banned from quite a few tournaments? ( including the US Open a few years ago )...and the idea that the draw was rigged is ridiculous. Not only are there always players present when the draw is done, but if the draw was rigged by Australian officials, it would have been rigged for her rather than against her

oggie
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:49 AM
All the bad things that they have said about him are true. He is a complete nut. She is only guilty of listening to him.

Mikey
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by Gowza
she doesn't like australia because a couple of years ago the media kept saying her father was a problem and were really saying some bad things about him. that same year at the Oz open she was drawn against davenport in the first round and from then on she kept saying the draw was rigged and would never come back

this is by far one of my favorite stories. she won't play in australia b/c her home tennis federation rigged the draw against her in a conspiracy-like manner so that she would be forced to play the eventual champion in the first round.

give me a break :rolleyes:

2284
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by oggie
All the bad things that they have said about him are true. He is a complete nut. She is only guilty of listening to him.

She's 19 years old! Don't you think it's about time she started thinking for herself?

~ The Leopard ~
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:19 AM
Silly Jelena.... still, I can see why she thinks everyone hates her here. The press give her a hard time. I blame them as much as Damir.

I wish she'd change her mind and come here. She's a terrific player and an interesting personality; we're missing out on something not having her here for the Oz Open.

2284
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:22 AM
The Australian media won't stop hanging shit on her until she decides to play here again...and we have every other player in the top 10 playing the Aus. Open, so it's her loss, not ours

Dawn Marie
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:24 AM
I support her decision. Tennis is mental and if she thinks playing Down Under is not good for her mentality then I say good for her. I say if she will feel hurt because the OZ people will subject her to boo's and jeers then don't play there. Maybe right now she feels she is not yet ready to subject herself to that kind of crap. Besides why should she waste her time right now, all they will do is rig her draw again. If she does play Down Under I will support her decison as well.

GO JELENA. Stand by what you believe in, because tennis is not everything in this world.

2284
Oct 16th, 2002, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by Dawn Marie
I support her decision. Tennis is mental and if she thinks playing Down Under is not good for her mentality then I say good for her. I say if she will feel hurt because the OZ people will subject her to boo's and jeers then don't play there. Maybe right now she feels she is not yet ready to subject herself to that kind of crap. Besides why should she waste her time right now, all they will do is rig her draw again. If she does play Down Under I will support her decison as well.

GO JELENA. Stand by what you believe in, because tennis is not everything in this world.

I'm assuming that this post was a joke

Venus Forever
Oct 16th, 2002, 04:22 AM
If she ever wants to be considered with some of the greats, she eventually is going to realize that she would have to play the Aussie Open.

2284
Oct 16th, 2002, 04:35 AM
Any more news on whether Jelena is moving to England?

BasicTennis
Oct 16th, 2002, 06:27 AM
The Australian Open could go on successfully even without Jelena's presence.

2284
Oct 16th, 2002, 06:29 AM
It has before, why not again? We didn't even have Serena last year (she got injured in Sydney) and it was still brilliant, so with Serena...

~ The Leopard ~
Oct 16th, 2002, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by BasicTennis
The Australian Open could go on successfully even without Jelena's presence.

How could anyone argue otherwise. :confused:

(It'd still be nice if she was here for it; I, for one, would like to watch her play.)

Larrybid
Oct 16th, 2002, 07:36 AM
I think this silly vendetta that Dokic is carrying is quite immature. But, I guess Dokic has the right to be immature and skip a Grand Slam out of spite if she chooses....and I reserve the right not to care. I've never tuned into a tennis match in my life because Dokic was playing and I doubt that will be the case in the forseeable future. I do hope she grows up tho..its a shame for a player with some talent to be so unstable.

WTA_freak
Oct 16th, 2002, 07:49 AM
I love tabloid like media approach. Every time when this subject is getting attention only and only „draw rigging“ story will be quoted. It wasn’t obviously main reason why they left. This way full objective picture is getting easily off balanced.

btw. I got impression from her last interview that she isn’t happy with Yugo tennis officials to. Won't play Olympic Games under Yugo flag. So “hard case” seems to be her middle name.

jd4eva
Oct 16th, 2002, 07:55 AM
Notice the response by the Australian posters and you realise why Jelena won't return, she's a girl who sticks to her word and she has stated numerously over the past 2 years she won't return and she will stick to that, no matter how much we wish her to change her mind :(

~RedRose~
Oct 16th, 2002, 08:06 AM
If Jelena goes to the open and draws in her little 8th Anne Kremer, we can assume its rigged :)

Larrybid
Oct 16th, 2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by ILUVJELENA
Notice the response by the Australian posters and you realise why Jelena won't return, she's a girl who sticks to her word and she has stated numerously over the past 2 years she won't return and she will stick to that, no matter how much we wish her to change her mind :(

Oh please with this "standing on principle" nonsense. If she really is trying to make a point, then why is the stated reason for skipping the Assie Open her being tired? If she believes she's in the right in this silly vendetta she has against the Aussie's then just say so, don't lie and say she's resting. Just say, "I'm not playing as per my prior declaration that I was never going back there". That would be standing on principle.

The only think that bothers me about her decision is the arogant notion that fans would be crushed if she doesn't play. Who's she kidding? The fact is even when she plays, its an even money bet that she plays as if she was somewhere else. What's the difference?

gentenaire
Oct 16th, 2002, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Larrybid


Oh please with this "standing on principle" nonsense. If she really is trying to make a point, then why is the stated reason for skipping the Assie Open her being tired?

Exactly Larry! At least the tired excuse is better than the "it's too far" excuse of last year (after which she promptly played in Tokyo which is obviously so much closer to home).

~ The Leopard ~
Oct 16th, 2002, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by ILUVJELENA
Notice the response by the Australian posters and you realise why Jelena won't return

wtf is that supposed to mean? I thought I was being pretty sympathetic to her.

tennisIlove09
Oct 16th, 2002, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by jouissant


How could anyone argue otherwise. :confused:

(It'd still be nice if she was here for it; I, for one, would like to watch her play.)

I agree! She is a top 10 player! Who WOULDN'T want to watch her play. Her quarter final, RD of 16 would be interesting, regardless of who she plays.

I don't understand it; when Davenport beat her in 2001 first round, the Aussie crowd wasn't against her! They were behind Davenport more, but the Australian crowd is nothing like Flushing Meadows, where they boo. Perhaps Dokic is worried about that?

Williams Rulez
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:22 AM
Sigh... I wish she wouldn't be so silly... :sad:

King Aaron
Oct 16th, 2002, 12:49 PM
:sad: :sad: Not competing at the OZ Open will not solve anything :(

Dokicfan17
Oct 16th, 2002, 12:54 PM
I love Jelena to death shes my favorite player but to skip a Grand Slam, noooooo lol, well she can win wimby then

Experimentee
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:04 PM
Its stupid to skip a Grand Slam just for some unproven belief that the draw was rigged, and the media actually reporting what her father gets up to! And what she got at the Australian Open was nothing compared to what happened to Hingis at the French Open, and Martina still plays there!

Monica_Rules
Oct 16th, 2002, 02:09 PM
Its her decision but IMO its a bad one look what happened last year!

Julian Byatt
Oct 16th, 2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Experimentee
And what she got at the Australian Open was nothing compared to what happened to Hingis at the French Open, and Martina still plays there!

Are you sure you live in Australia?

To compare the Martina/French scenario to the Jelena/Australia is naive to say the least.

If you really live in Oz, you ARE aware that it's not just tennis fans who will give her a hard time while she is on the court - the problem is much, MUCH deeper than that.

Probably more than half the total population holds some deep seated hatred/resentment toward her - a total waste of energy if you ask me - but it's there none the less.

Imagine if Bin Laden was about to embark on a two week visit to your respective country - how do you think YOUR country would react?
Jelena's reception in Australia at this moment would be SLIGHTLY less hostile than that. Anybody claiming to live in Australia that disagrees is kidding themselves (or lives beyond the Black Stump!!)

Time - perhaps 5 years, if ever - is the only thing that will heal this wound.

Seles1
Oct 16th, 2002, 04:39 PM
I wasn't surpirised at the fact that she isn't playing the Australian Open I just wanted her fans to know that it has been confirmed.

Aloysius
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:47 PM
If Jelena ever plans on returning to Australia, the stand-off is making it much harder for her to come back. However, I think the Aussie public should and will forgive her because that's the Australian way. If she is greeted with bad faith, it will only justify her reasons for leaving, whatever they are.

The rigging of the draw scenario and the problems with Damir were the last straw. The rigging of the draw thing was made too big a deal of IMO.

The real problem IMHO was that the Dokic's felt that they were being ostracized, and that the tennis fraternity were not backing them unconditionally. Tennis Australia refused to accept Damir as part of the Jelena package.

The rejection and Damir's decision to leave Australia must be separated from Jelena. She was a pawn when all these decisions were made for her. She went along willingly because she didn't know any better. Now that she's grown up with those decisions, she truly believes what she's doing is what's best for her.

vutt
Oct 16th, 2002, 05:52 PM
And from early interviews she used to like Sydney so much. How wrong can things turn in real life! :( She was so happy holding Hoffman cup for Australia.
We won't probably see soon(if ever) this kind of pictures:
http://www.hot.ee/flubze/dokic/99hopman4.jpg

jd4eva
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:02 PM
What I was trying to say is that the response of the Australian posters here are pretty much the kindest Jelena is ever going to get from an Australia so imagine how much worse it can get.

And as for stating her real reasons, Jelena pretty much did that in Tokyo this year where she said that 'you all know why I didn't go to Australia and I don't think it's appropriate'

How would you feel rerturning to a country where you are abused constantly and have no support from a Federation, to the extent which your family was refused tickets for the Olympic Games even though every other player received all the tickets they requested. Or a Federation that sends an official to talk with you only to discover it's an attempt to insult and abuse you?

If I was her, I certainly wouldn't be able to return, however she hasn't ruled out the possibility of returning in the future and I for one, hope she will.

PhoenixStorm
Oct 16th, 2002, 10:40 PM
I say screw the aussie open if they did that crap to her. sure the aussie open will go on but so will she. She doesnt need them anymore than they need her.

on the other hand if they would have treated her and her family with some respect (despite the crazy father) they would have a top ten aussie woman player. So fooey on them.

Messenger
Oct 16th, 2002, 11:17 PM
I agree with vutt, who could forget Hopman Cup 1999 where she defeated Sanchez as an unranked player?

Or defeating Hingis in the first round of Wimbledon 1999 and instantly becoming a celebrity in Australia! It was absolutely astonishing for world no. 1 Hingis to lose to a player ranked so low. Haha, I even remember it made the evening news when she returned to High School after Wimbledon.

I'm from Australia and I don't have any ill feelings towards her! Well maybe a little, she removed that mole which was her trademark! If anything a lot of Australians view her as more of a looney-bin than a traitor.

2284
Oct 18th, 2002, 12:06 AM
Everyone in Australia loved Jelena until she started hanging shit on our country. She was considered royalty here for quite a while. Have you seen the Sydney Olympics pics of her? She looked so happy. What happened?

Richie77
Oct 18th, 2002, 03:26 AM
I like Jelena, but I really wish she'd play in Australia. By not playing, she's denying herself a great chance at a major tournament...yeah, the crowds would be against her. But she's a player who can tune that out and play well, she's such a fighter.

But she's probably not ready to go back yet...I hope she does someday.