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TeeRexx
Oct 12th, 2002, 09:40 PM
Big things were expected of Kim after her Roland Garros final, but she could not maintain that level of play throughout that season and in 2002.

http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/ten/2002/1012/photo/a_kim_ht.jpg

Kim now has the opportunity to play like and possibly actually be the #3 player in 2003 and it could all start with a win in the Porsche finals.

If Clijsters continues to pay more attention to her game rather than her boyfriend's game, then a higher ranking and maybe even a Grand Slam title could be in her future.

TSequoia01
Oct 12th, 2002, 09:47 PM
I like Kim, a class act. She should be #3 in my opinion. Ever since she almost beat the Princess of Power in 99, I have respected her game. In fact she plays alot like the Princess. Kim should defeat the talented Daniela tomorrow and start her climb to be the #3 player in the world. :cool:

irma
Oct 12th, 2002, 09:48 PM
"she could not maintain that level of play throughout that season and in 2002."

I think she did, except in the period between rome and us open this year but that was also due to injury, motivationproblems and a coachchange!

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 09:49 PM
I think her and Amelie will be expected to make some nosie next year, I hope she and Amelie at least go to a slam final next year, but venus and Serena will be hard to beat especially in slams, so hope they can take the next steps

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 09:54 PM
I think you are right irma, I just check her record this year and believe me it is not that bad at all, she even have n okay american hard court season, she just had a bad period between after Aus Open and Wimbledon which mostly are due to injury

TeeRexx
Oct 12th, 2002, 10:02 PM
Irma - Yes, Clijsters had some good performances, but she did not follow up that Roland Garros final with any of the following:

1. A Grand Slam singles title
2. A #3 or higher ranking
3. More vicories over top ten players and especially over the WILLIAMS.

Regardless of the reasons for some of her halts during the seasons, Kim did not maintain that level of play that she had in Paris, 2001.

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 10:05 PM
well she did beat Venus, but then I guess we have way too much high hopes on her after last season, but I do think she has what it takes to challenge them frequently, she is althletic, she is feisty, she hit the ball hard and clean (well when she is on, just like any other player)

CJ07
Oct 12th, 2002, 10:45 PM
You know its a question mark. Who knows the #3 ranking is going to get competitive, the top 5 is going to get VERY competitive (Jen, Amelie, Clijsters, Seles, Davenport, maybe Henin) and since she has a losing record against most of them (Jen, Seles, i think Davenport, not sure about Amelie) its going to be tough

Mercury Rising
Oct 12th, 2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by TeeRexx
Irma - Yes, Clijsters had some good performances, but she did not follow up that Roland Garros final with any of the following:

1. A Grand Slam singles title
2. A #3 or higher ranking
3. More vicories over top ten players and especially over the WILLIAMS.

Regardless of the reasons for some of her halts during the seasons, Kim did not maintain that level of play that she had in Paris, 2001.
Ehm actually, Kim did reach the n° 3 position this year, and next year she can gain alot of points.

Volcana
Oct 12th, 2002, 11:01 PM
I think Kim is the best athlete in the top fifteen outside of the Williams sisters. (Amelie could make a legit arguement I guess.) What she lacks a real overpowering weapon, like Serena's serve or Venus's backhand, or Jenn's forehand. She can get to net against hard hitters, but she doesn't always choose to do so.

Since RG 2001, she's gone QF, QF, SF, 3rd round, 2nd round, 4th round at the Slams.
She's never won a TIer I, but she's won several of the more prestigious Tier II's.

To me, it doesn't add up to #3. More like #5

GogoGirl
Oct 12th, 2002, 11:10 PM
Ah-hum. Didn't I say I liked Kim? Didn't I pick her for the fourth best player in the WTA the other day? Kim has the goods. She just has to concentrate more during her matches - and she should find her way to the top. Kimmie gots game.

I like Kim a lot. And after the Sisters - she is my favorite player. I think she will progress w/i the next year. And she will be the main one to give the Sisters a fit. There may be others - but she is a shoe-in IMO. Chanda - Momo - Justine and and of course, Lindsay can beat the Sisters if they are on.

At times - it also matters the surface any given match is played on.

Peace!





"WAY TO GO - KIMMIE"

o0O0o
Oct 13th, 2002, 12:25 AM
Kim Clijsters has what it takes to be dominant. A serve topping 110, overpowering groundstrokes, the speed of a Williams sister without their foot-heaviness, and the ability to hit fantastic lobs, drops, and slices. Her only problem remains her inconsistence, she hits more errors than any top 10 player for sure, but as she continues to control that I don't see why she can't be the world #1 in the short future.

She is also my new favorite player (until Hingis returns with a less appalling game).

harloo
Oct 13th, 2002, 12:55 AM
oooOOo, on the Kim bandwagon now aren't you. Giving up on marti eh? lmao :rolleyes:

Anyways, Kim has the game and I don't see why she can't challenge the sisters. I think she will challenge them, but most of the time she will lose with occasional wins. She is a sweet girl, and great player. I wish her all the best.

Gonzo Hates Me!
Oct 13th, 2002, 12:59 AM
YES, KIM WAS RANKED NO. 3, AHEM AHEM, THANK YOU NOODLES!!

And Kim didn't have an inexcusable decline as others have already stated.

Understand the Kimmy before commentation

CJ07
Oct 13th, 2002, 01:01 AM
I've never seen Kim, but what Volcana said seems to be it.
Number 5 seems fit for her

kournikovafan13
Oct 13th, 2002, 01:11 AM
You've never seen Kim play? :eek:

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 01:45 AM
Yes, Kim was ranked #3...then her injury caused her to lose a lot of points, but now that she has recovered she is starting to show her full potential

gopher
Oct 13th, 2002, 04:20 AM
count her in for 2 not 3

kiwifan
Oct 13th, 2002, 05:35 AM
Okay, now it looks like I can remo0O0ove my curse from Chucky (who I actually like when she's her old cocky self) and will have to put it on Kim (who does nothing for me - other than the one time she did a split on the court, looked very painful and impressive).

To0O0o bad Kim fans...

King Lindsay
Oct 13th, 2002, 06:00 AM
Tee Rexx, you did say that Kim hasn't maintained the leel of play she showed at Roland Garros. I'd have to disagree. I don't think she played all that well in Paris, if you look at her road to the final it was beyond soft.

Also, she did beat Venus once this year. So that's a start. She also took her to three tight set on HC, and did the same to Serena in the Tokyo final.

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by o0O0o
Kim Clijsters has what it takes to be dominant. A serve topping 110, overpowering groundstrokes, the speed of a Williams sister without their foot-heaviness, and the ability to hit fantastic lobs, drops, and slices. Her only problem remains her inconsistence, she hits more errors than any top 10 player for sure, but as she continues to control that I don't see why she can't be the world #1 in the short future.

She is also my new favorite player (until Hingis returns with a less appalling game).

...and Kim has been much more consistant since she recovered from her injury. It's good to see you jumping on the Kim bandwagon....and I hope Martina does come back with her old form. Watching her was amazing at the Aus. Open...until she choked in the final

TeeRexx
Oct 13th, 2002, 07:09 AM
TennisFan - To win a slam, at this time, one must be able to beat SERENA and VENUS plus 2 other top ten players during the course of the event.

A player, to be dominate nowdays, has to be able to beat VENUS & SERENA multiple times during the course of a season as they do other players.

Merely playing VENUS close just will not cut it to be a dominant champ.
VENUS has the tendancy to play many matches close, but has the champion's heart to usually come out on top.

Kim still has some work to do in order to get and stay in those top three spots in the rankings.

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 07:10 AM
...but she's on her way back there

gokimmie
Oct 13th, 2002, 07:11 AM
i'm convinved she'll get to nr 3 again next year.
After that ,who knows what will happen?
Now that her shoulder problems are over ,she'll be able to work on her serve again,and have lots of match rhytym ,witch she obviously needs to perform well...
I don't think it's fair to say that she puts her love life ahaed of her tennis,i think that's one of the reasons she and lleyton are working out so well,they 're both there,they know there are sacrifices that have to be made.She is on the other hand a very down to earth girl,wich i love about her.
she's very competitive,but realises there's much more to life then tennis.a sweet angel of court ,she can be a killer on court,that's one of the reasons i 'm such a huuuuuuuuuuge fan of miss clijsters:)

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by gokimmie
i'm convinved she'll get to nr 3 again next year.
After that ,who knows what will happen?
Now that her shoulder problems are over ,she'll be able to work on her serve again,and have lots of match rhytym ,witch she obviously needs to perform well...
I don't think it's fair to say that she puts her love life ahaed of her tennis,i think that's one of the reasons she and lleyton are working out so well,they 're both there,they know there are sacrifices that have to be made.She is on the other hand a very down to earth girl,wich i love about her.
she's very competitive,but realises there's much more to life then tennis.a sweet angel of court ,she can be a killer on court,that's one of the reasons i 'm such a huuuuuuuuuuge fan of miss clijsters:)

Her relationship with Lleyton is probably what has stopped her from over-practicing and injuring her shoulder again

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by TeeRexx

Kim still has some work to do in order to get and stay in those top three spots in the rankings.

TeeRex, you have failed to acknowledge that the reason she lost her #3 ranking was injury, not lack of ability

TeeRexx
Oct 13th, 2002, 07:23 AM
Untitled - An injury is a fact for the cause of certain results.
What ever the reason, Kim was still unable to maintain the position.

To being consistently on top one needs skill, determination, luck and a good draw. :)

Hagar
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:18 PM
The time was indeed right!

irma
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:20 PM
Kimmy is here to stay. http://smilies.uniquehardware.co.uk/kao/chika/chirol_iei.gif

King Lindsay
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:30 PM
Tee Rexx, I wasn't debating anything you just posted to me.

And I point out Kim's close matches with Venus/Serena because it's a start, like I said before. Not even being a Clijsters fan, I fully believe a Grand Slam title/the #1 ranking is in her future, and I've thought that for years. She's that good, she's only getting better, and I think she just needs some time.

~|Naomi|~
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:37 PM
She won, she won , she won, she won, she won, she won:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:41 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Beating 3 top 10 players over 3 days, Kim won Filderstadt.
Who ever doubted that she could do it :(

irma
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:44 PM
something that really was incredible positive sign this week that she had some big serves at big points. I think now her arm feels fine, she worked on that and it shows

and remember Kimmy serving average is already tough to beat so imagine how it will be with Kimmy serving big:D

Nimi
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:48 PM
Kim!!!! :hearts:

You rock girl, now just give Lleyton the back kick & everything will be perfect ;)

TeeRexx
Oct 13th, 2002, 05:09 PM
Good win, Kim.
Stay focused on your game and not your buddie's and a solid #3 spot and a GS title could be yours in a couple of years.

o0O0o
Oct 14th, 2002, 12:42 AM
To say I'm "dropping" Martina all of the sudden is not entirely true. But I am not a fan of the way Hingis is playing. After all I've been writing rather negative posts about her for a while now, getting more frustrated every time she plays. I liked her for her beyond-deft game and cocky, confident and cool personality. As they both fade, so does my passion for the Swiss Miss.

Now, will I still root for her? Yes. Will I root for her against Clijsters, were they to meet? Maybe. But I just can't watch a player who has an unimpressive game, and I appreciate Kim's game the more I see it. I've been a Kim fan for a while now, but until Martina gets some oomph back into her game, my #2 is bumped up to #1 by default.