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lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 01:48 PM
What happened today regarding the Mauresmo/Clijsters scoring thread was ridiculous. Some of "Kimmy" Clijsters fans found the need to flood this board to post inane bullshit which flooded this board and was down a few times. I am not telling you how to run your board, but if this happens again two suggestions; either lock the thread or delete posts.

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 01:56 PM
LOL, I think most of us here live in a democractic country, and if they feel the need to flood the threads with post, so be it. You cna't moan on someone or even the board when they are doing you a big favour and give you live score threads.

Won't it be more consrtuctive if you can think of an alternatives? Maybe we can create a thread alongside scoring thread which only porvide score per game, so people who dun want to see those scoring thread can just get the score update?

But it is up to them whether they want to post or not, you can't stop them, if you dun like it, come back after the match and check the score, end of story

deydreemyn
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:00 PM
Yes, you can't tell anyone what and what not to post but they could have been more considerate and posted in the Kim Cheering thread instead and left the scoring thread just for scores. I think once they got past so many pages they kept doing it to see how far they could take it.:rolleyes:

per4ever
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:00 PM
may be this is why all people join the board in first place??? to follow and cheer their favourites???

E. Blackadder
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:03 PM
Oh you guys, give us a break! This was the only place where we could follow the match accurately tahnks to some who posted scores!

WTAworld didn't crash, there was just some steam coming out of the new servers :p At least we tested them now, and they passed our test whitout a problem ;) :D

gmak
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Rhythmboy
Oh you guys, give us a break! This was the only place where we could follow the match accurately tahnks to some who posted scores!

WTAworld didn't crash, there was just some steam coming out of the new servers :p At least we tested them now, and they passed our test whitout a problem ;) :D


lool :D

well your smilies were very funny.. i didn't ahve any problem with that ;)

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:07 PM
Then why can't Kim 's fan use common sense and creat two threads, one for scoring and one for cheering? People who are really interested in the match have no time for this shit. It is because of what happenend today made me an ex-fan of hers and I hope she loses every matchs she plays for now on, inculding tomorrows.

Where the hell is Serena to beat her when you need her?

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by lizchris
Then why can't Kim 's fan use common sense and creat two threads, one for scoring and one for cheering? People who are really interested in the match have no time for this shit. It is because of what happenend today made me an ex-fan of hers and I hope she loses every matchs she plays for now on, inculding tomorrows.

Where the hell is Serena to beat her when you need her?

I am sorry this is BS and just shows you real character, if you are really interested in the match, you would have create a scoring thread your own, and then go to the cheering thread and ask someone for a favour damnit

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:16 PM
cheering threads have always been like that! They're fun!
Personally I enjoy reading all the pages even after a match, it shows how tight a match was. I see you registered in February, that might explain why you're not familiar with cheering threads.

In the cheering threads we need live scores anyway. If you want to create another thread, feel free to do so.

Filip!
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by lizchris
Then why can't Kim 's fan use common sense and creat two threads, one for scoring and one for cheering? People who are really interested in the match have no time for this shit. It is because of what happenend today made me an ex-fan of hers and I hope she loses every matchs she plays for now on, inculding tomorrows.

Where the hell is Serena to beat her when you need her?

Are you frustrated because Kim won this match???

Probably you are a sad Mauresmo-fan or something like that...

E. Blackadder
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by bram_born84
vortzak

:o

GoDominique
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:20 PM
Yes, it IS ridiculous. I have posted a similar thread before and got bashed as well, so don't worry about that.

josefien
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:22 PM
I just want to thank all the posters and I want to say I really enjoyed it!!!
I came in around three o'clock belgium time and read the scores from the beginning. It took me more than an hour, and yes indeed, the board was slow, but I had a great time. So, thank you all!!

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:24 PM
In the end, if you are pissed about the scoring thread, then just don't go, no one will point a gun at you and ask you to refresh scoring thread every minute

NaturalBlues
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by lizchris
Then why can't Kim 's fan use common sense and creat two threads, one for scoring and one for cheering? People who are really interested in the match have no time for this shit. It is because of what happenend today made me an ex-fan of hers and I hope she loses every matchs she plays for now on, inculding tomorrows.

Where the hell is Serena to beat her when you need her?

Please! If that's the reason that made you an 'ex-fan' you weren't a fan in the first place. There is a scoreboard you know.:rolleyes:

GoDominique
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:27 PM
I think it should be possible to post 'come on Kim' or 'allez Amelie' only 50 times instead of 100. :rolleyes:

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:29 PM
GoDominique, thank you for your support. I know there are other people out there that agree with me, but are afraid to post becasue they don't wan to get bashed by "Kimmy's" fans, but I don't give a fuck about them or what they think.

BTW, this wasn't the only reason I don' t like Kim anymore; this was just the last thing. Personally, I don't think she is all that good.

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:30 PM
but GoDominique, I'd be out of business then! ;)

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:31 PM
funny how some poster want to turn this baord into fascist community.

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:32 PM
for your information, lizchris, it's not only Kim fans who cheer a lot in scoring threads. There have been plenty of scoring threads with other players!

GoDominique
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:36 PM
Of course I understand that it was a very exciting match and that the fans are excited as well. But if you read that thread, maybe you will find 1 or 2 posts who weren't really necessary. ;) Even in democratic countries one should be a bit considerate of other people.

BTW, I haven't read the thread, so I have no idea if Kim- or Amelie-fans are more 'responsible'.

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:41 PM
I'm sure the Kim fans are more responsible, but that's beside the point. I posted several silly posts in that thread because I enjoy it, plain and simple. Even if I wouldn't be posting in it, I'd still be refreshing every 10 seconds so it would still be slow.
Lizchris wanted another seperate thread, why didn't (s)he start this new thread then? Why does (s)he expect US, who have no intention of posting in that seperate thread to start that thread? We lack in common sense because we didn't start a thread we had no intention of posting in?

gokimmie
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:43 PM
:rolleyes:

GoDominique
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:45 PM
But maybe it would be enough to refresh every 30 seconds ? Usually points last that long. ;)

I have done such things as well, and as long as the board is working fine, OK. But one day, the board will be down again.

I mean, we don't have to destroy the board voluntarily, do we ?

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:45 PM
I'n no fan of Mauresmo's but I wanted her win because she would be closer to the number three spot and knock Capriati down to four where she belongs.

If I lived in Europe (I am from the US and I am a female) and could see the match live, I would have. We will not have live womens' matches in the US until the year-end championships where I hope Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Amelie or Monica win.

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 02:50 PM
We couldn't see this match either, that's why we were all glued to our computer screen posting away, post what we'd otherwise shout at the TV. It's fun!

veryborednow
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:04 PM
WTAworld didn't crash
It did-ish I couldn't get on cos of you :p
Eurpore
lizchris - don't think anyone here lives anywhere near a place like that

Jorn
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:09 PM
But the board was almost down during that match, we was not able to post in Bratislava forum ;)

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:09 PM
You know what I meant (I'll correct it later).

I posted live scores on another board when the JPMorgan Chase final wash played over the summer. Not only did people appreciate it, they didn't clutter the thread with utter nonsense.

Filip!
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:16 PM
*** Ok, I deleted this message ***

But what Lizchris says is a bit stupid, isn't it ??

Wimanna
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:19 PM
I saw the match live, and after that I spend 45 minutes to read to complete thread...actually is was kinda funny!!!

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:29 PM
What does that mean?

per4ever
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:30 PM
I don't even want to translate that...'cause it's plain ridiculous...

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:40 PM
Figures and how typical.

E. Blackadder
Oct 12th, 2002, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by per4ever
I don't even want to translate that...'cause it's plain ridiculous...

I agree, that crossed the line :(
I'm ashamed that a belgian posted that

billybizar
Oct 12th, 2002, 04:00 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: @ the Kim haters!

I didn' t know 10 year old kiddies could be that jealous.

2ace2
Oct 12th, 2002, 04:06 PM
I enjoy live-scoring threads too, but while being on this board during the match, I've also had some difficulties with the board. But of course, it was a long match, so that's probably the reason.
Lizchris, you're being ridiculous, trying to provoke us... :rolleyes:

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 04:42 PM
2ace2, trying to provoke who?

The fact is, 20 something pages for a live scoring thread and 3/4 of it was nonsense. Notice the Daniela/Elena thread was only three or four pages and was minimal in it nonsense.

If I am so ridiculous, then why did you post here?

Filip!
Oct 12th, 2002, 04:49 PM
Lizchris,

I think there were so much posts because it was a great & exciting match between two real topplayers... The fans from the both players posted that messages because they were a bit nervous I think...

I don't think this is a reason to have a "fight" about... Let's just stop this discussion & respect eachother. I have to admit, I also wasn't very friendly in this thread, but I think it 's better to stop talking about this thing...

sartrista7
Oct 12th, 2002, 04:53 PM
I know the scoring threads are meant to be fun etc. but I have to say I'm on lizchris' side here. I mean, it's completely pointless just to post 'c'mon Kim' or 'allez Amelie' over and over and over again - no-one wants to read such an inane message, and you could save yourself the trouble of posting something which *does* slow the board down and which *does* make it crash occasionally. Have some consideration for people who want to post elsewhere on WTAWorld.

(And it's not just Kim/Amelie fans, it happens every damn time there's a big match on.)

per4ever
Oct 12th, 2002, 04:53 PM
:)@Kim-Juju!

I'm glad you admit that you crossed the line :) Have fun on the board ;)

anton
Oct 12th, 2002, 04:55 PM
Here is my two cents:

two cents.:)

per4ever
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:02 PM
something he said on the first page of thsis thread raquel... something really stupid and childish :) I'm not gonna translate that ;)

Freefall
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:05 PM
You are rediculous because if you haven't figured it out already, ALL you had to do was either go to the site with live scores, that was posted many times in the scoreing thread or make a scores only thread of your own.

The fact that you still choose to play dumb & ignore these options, just makes you seem like a Kim hater, who's bitter coz she won & you're trying to ruin the Belgians fun. Or you're making yourself look like a compulsive whiner who can't even solve their own problem, when the solution is readily apparent to everyone else & they even have told you a number of times.

Anything more from you will just prove these points.


BTW, all you fun loving Belgians need to know something.... DANI IS GOING TO HAVE A NEW CAR BY THE END OF THE WEEKEND & NO AMOUNT OF POSTING WILL CHANGE THAT!! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D :p

Mercury Rising
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by sartrista7
I know the scoring threads are meant to be fun etc. but I have to say I'm on lizchris' side here. I mean, it's completely pointless just to post 'c'mon Kim' or 'allez Amelie' over and over and over again - no-one wants to read such an inane message, and you could save yourself the trouble of posting something which *does* slow the board down and which *does* make it crash occasionally. Have some consideration for people who want to post elsewhere on WTAWorld.

(And it's not just Kim/Amelie fans, it happens every damn time there's a big match on.)
I very very much agree with you, but I don't think they'll understand. The board will crash again 'cause of it and one time it will be for good.

per4ever
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:11 PM
Noodles... the board crashes because of a huge number of hits...people who are refreshing constantly to see the scores. I doubt it has anything to do with posting cheerings and crap. Even if they don't post those things, then it will still crash because of all those visitors visiting/refreshing the same thread :)

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:14 PM
What per4ever said! That's the point I was trying to make earlier. Posting or refreshing doesn't make that much of a difference.

Mercury Rising
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by per4ever
Noodles... the board crashes because of a huge number of hits...people who are refreshing constantly to see the scores. I doubt it has anything to do with posting cheerings and crap. Even if they don't post those things, then it will still crash because of all those visitors visiting/refreshing the same thread :)
You have a very good point, you're probably right, but maybe it still makes a diference.
Maybe it would be wise to ask visitors not to refresh every 10 seconds.

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:16 PM
per4ever is spot on, we are talking about two issues here. In this thread people are mainly complaining

1) that it takes them to read 20 pages to see the score

This problemcan be easily solved if they ad taken the advice of someone in that cheering thread and go to the link actually provided livescore, all the problem can be resloved

But now people are trying to say the no. of post is causing the site to crash, if it is like that, then shall I say that most threads in nontennis has to be banned coz they have many mnay more posts than that. The problem with the site crashing is the no. fo refresh people had per second, maybe we can resolved it by asking people to be a little gentle and maybe consider refreshing every 2 mins instead of every 30 secs, I think a lot of people wuld agree and help

per4ever
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:16 PM
that would be wise indeed...but I doubt people will do that...

veryborednow
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:17 PM
maybe they could shove a large number of people into the chat rooms...
and shove another large number of people in the ATP chat room.

and then put the belgians in their own thread ;)

cue: less refreshing, just as much crap

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:18 PM
If Belgians come to this board to have fun, they have more problems than I do.

Why should I be bitter? The only reason why she is even in the final is because Serena isn't and if Serena was, I think we have a good idea who would be the winner.

Unless you are stupid or retarded, I said previoiusly I have posted live scoring threads on another tennis website so I think I would know how to do it on this one, which I will if the year-end champhionships doesn't have live scoring.

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:22 PM
liz, if your sole reason is to see the score of the match, then as I said there are sites which provide live score which some belgians has given in the thread, and you can easily goes there and follow score like that

Mercury Rising
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by lizchris
If Belgians come to this board to have fun, they have more problems than I do.

Why should I be bitter? The only reason why she is even in the final is because Serena isn't and if Serena was, I think we have a good idea who would be the winner.

Unless you are stupid or retarded, I said previoiusly I have posted live scoring threads on another tennis website so I think I would know how to do it on this one, which I will if the year-end champhionships doesn't have live scoring.
Why are you talking about "Belgians"? Do you always generalize like that??

veryborednow
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Noodles

Why are you talking about "Belgians"? Do you always generalize like that??
She's "American", she can't help it ;)

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:33 PM
Actually, soneone made that generalization before I did; I was just responding.

Starting tomorrow, I won't have to worry because the Swisscom-Challenge has a live scoreboard, something I wish this tournament had and will get next year.

wongqks
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:35 PM
LOL, you are ignoring every single thing that is against you at the moment.

we all have given you an opportunity for live score update in Kim clijsters site, but you reject and instead start moaning at her fans

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:41 PM
Even with live scoreboards, there are still cheering threads. I don't see what's wrong with that.

If Belgians come to this board to have fun, they have more problems than I do.

Why else would we come to these boards? To help world peace? To please my boss?

I guess we're stupid, retarded and lack common sense because we're supporting someone other than Serena :rolleyes:

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:51 PM
I don't want to go to her site, can't you understand that? I have and will get my scoring form somewhere else. I just come here because the live scoring is normally good, but today it was the worst since I registered on this site.

I don't have a problem with cheering threads; I have a problem with people posting inane bullshit on a scoring thread, forcing people to have to refresh to get the latest score, thus jamming the board.

The only person I called ignorant was the person who didn't understand what I posted twice. I don't care who you rrot for; I just happen to like Venus, Serena, Lindsay, Chanda and Daniela, to name a few players.

gentenaire
Oct 12th, 2002, 05:57 PM
You have to refresh anyway, whether there are lots of posts or very few posts.

You're whining, putting down Kim's effort, bashing Kim, etc. because we didn't start a new thread for you. Who stopped you from starting a new thread yourself?

E. Blackadder
Oct 12th, 2002, 06:11 PM
Okay now you are childish here lizchris:


" I don't want to go to her site, can't you understand that?"

Scores are scores :rolleyes:

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 06:16 PM
I know that , but I find it odd that I was able to get the Elena/Daniela scores almost twice as fast.

Sorry if you took it that I was bashing Kim, I wasn't, only her fans.

The only reason whi I didn't start a new thread is becasue the match was already in the third set by the time I got here. And if you read my previous post, I am in American and the part of America I an in is 6 hours behind Germany, so when I woke up at 8 this morning, the match was already in the third set, so I didn't see the need to start another thread because I knew I could follow the scores on the existing thread. Now I know better.

lizchris
Oct 12th, 2002, 06:27 PM
Right. Like the person who posted someting in Dutch (I think) that was so dumb that even his compatriots wouldn't translate it. But you probably think that it was funny, whatever it was.

billybizar
Oct 12th, 2002, 06:45 PM
:rolleyes: Is this discussion still going on??? There's always SOMEONE to spoil the party, isn't it?

Maybe we SHOULD translate it to scare away the fly from the cake?

E. Blackadder
Oct 12th, 2002, 06:50 PM
Kim-Juju deleted that dutch message, and I think we should consider this whole discussion closed for now !

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by lizchris
I know that , but I find it odd that I was able to get the Elena/Daniela scores almost twice as fast.

Sorry if you took it that I was bashing Kim, I wasn't, only her fans.

The only reason whi I didn't start a new thread is becasue the match was already in the third set by the time I got here. And if you read my previous post, I am in American and the part of America I an in is 6 hours behind Germany, so when I woke up at 8 this morning, the match was already in the third set, so I didn't see the need to start another thread because I knew I could follow the scores on the existing thread. Now I know better.

Then why didn't you go to one of the live scoring websites rather than bitching about us?

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by lizchris
Actually, soneone made that generalization before I did; I was just responding.

Starting tomorrow, I won't have to worry because the Swisscom-Challenge has a live scoreboard, something I wish this tournament had and will get next year.

There were live scoreboards on other sites. The websites were posted at the start of the Kim vs. Amelie thread (please note that it was at the start so you didn't have to go through our many pages of posts)

Irish
Oct 13th, 2002, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by veryborednow

She's "American", she can't help it ;)
Who is generalizing now? :rolleyes:

gentenaire
Oct 13th, 2002, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Irish

Who is generalizing now? :rolleyes:

Irish, notice the ;) behind that message! vbn was generalizing on purpose!

veryborednow
Oct 13th, 2002, 09:46 AM
thank you Tine :) heh!

lizchris
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:26 PM
Because if I knew one existed, I would have gone, which I will do next time instead of messing with this board for live scores.

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by lizchris
Because if I knew one existed, I would have gone, which I will do next time instead of messing with this board for live scores.

Even the scores only thread froze today

wongqks
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:31 PM
it just prove that it is not the amount of post, it is the no. of refresh, a thing moderator may need to think about

But having said that I think it is exception, coz only Germn people can see the match this week, coz Eurosport is not showing, eurosport show a lot of matches, so we shouldn't worry about it too much next week in Zurich

2284
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:34 PM
Unfortunately having matches shown on Eurosport doesn't help me

wongqks
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:40 PM
It does, coz there will be less people need to getnupdate from score on wtaboard, therefore, the board won't be as slow, you get my point?

TS
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:44 PM
Why do people refresh anyway? Just leave the thread and click on it to re-enter, thats what I do. Or is that just the same thing?

carot
Oct 13th, 2002, 02:55 PM
Well, if you guys want, we can always close the board during important matches, that way you don't have to be afraid it will crash. :)

Mercury Rising
Oct 13th, 2002, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by carot
Well, if you guys want, we can always close the board during important matches, that way you don't have to be afraid it will crash. :)
I think everybody will agree with that :D ;)

carot
Oct 13th, 2002, 03:16 PM
sometimes i'm so clever it really hurts ;)

Beau
Oct 13th, 2002, 09:21 PM
Hello everyone, this is my third message in over a year that I've been coming to this board to follow scores that I can't follow live anywhere else. As much as I'm crazy about tennis updates everyday, I really don't like participating in non-sense arguments that go on-and-on in here. So I chose to post as little as I can.

But last few days I've been here, people's cheering post in scoring thread are accessive, unnessesary and inconsiderate! FOR CHRIST SAKE!!! Everypage has 90% cheering thread and 10% actual score IF LUCKY. Sad part is that your favorite players can't hear any of it. It's just a big nausance for people who follows the actual score and find that board is too busy,and worse, the person who post the score has trouble posting the score!

PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE AND HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION! It should apply anywhere regardless Democretic or Communist Country, Message board or your school toilet!!!

Thank You

griffin
Oct 14th, 2002, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Beau
Sad part is that your favorite players can't hear any of it.

No, but other fans can. Which is part of the point of coming to a message board, right? I know it can be frustrating to try and find a score if that's all you're interested in, but be respectful of the fact that other people in the thread are also looking for people to share their enthusiasm with.

Slow/hard to find scores are better than no scores.

per4ever
Oct 14th, 2002, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by Iva's #1 Fan
Why do people refresh anyway? Just leave the thread and click on it to re-enter, thats what I do. Or is that just the same thing?

that's the same ;)