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Caralenko
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:29 PM
Na's third title of her career :) Served and hit pretty well today and should be very proud of herself! Finally a good result after struggling so much after the Australian Open.

Unfortunate for Maria that her serve kinda deserted her after she had kept it stable for most of the week. She just can't seem to break Na at Birmingham :lol:

Bodes well for Wimbledon, for both of them :D

3 aces / 0 DFs for Na
1 ace / 7 DFs for Maria.

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Masha wilted pretty badly after she lost serve :( :(

Vaidisova Ruled
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
That was so freaking L.A.M.E. :haha:

MM Queen no more

Congrats to Na though:yeah:


BTW, Maria is so nice during the presentation:hearts: (and Na too)

DeliriousPotato
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
:worship::worship::worship: Na-licious :worship::worship::worship:
Hope NA-GOAT doesn't beat me to it :smooch:

Yaaaaay! I'm so happy. Finally ended that title draught :tape:
Li, please don't play Eastbourne, you're gonna arrive at Wimbledon with a lot of matches on your legs :sad:

VIKA?
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Maria:o:sobbing:
congrats Na.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
The first top 20 player she faces , she gets breadsticked.
Has yet to beat a top 40 player this year :sobbing:

Well done Na :yeah:

Serenus Christ
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
maria :o

dsanders06
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Terribe match for Maria..

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
That was so fucking pathetic :spit:

Vee Williams
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Li is a top-40 player... nothing like the players Maria had beaten this year.

Six Feet Under
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:30 PM
A present for NA-MUG's return :bowdown:

Masha :hug: (remember it's only a mm :secret::))

Daniel K
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Nice :D

LoLex
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Great match, Na :hearts: No brainless balbashing. I love it.

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Li is a top-40 player... nothing like the players Maria had beaten this year.

Yeah, we fucking get it :weirdo:

rrfnpump
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
A total of 7 points won by Maria in second set. :worship:

Well done, Na!

Brena
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
:woohoo:
hey Nanana! :bowdown::inlove::yeah:

dsanders06
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
SIX winners for Sharapova!

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
hated the second set especially last few games it was just bad,first set was vital for maria,congratulations to li na

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Tank job.

Marco Fernandes
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
FFS, that was fucking ridiculous.

Keadz
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Good job Li :) :hearts: Third title!!! Woo

Still two more tournaments to go for the grass court season, hopefully this is a sign of things to come!

Marias come back is stagnating. Thought her match against Henin would have given her more confidence, but this shut me up.

Vodkapova
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:32 PM
She was jinxed. :tears:

turtle-rn
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:32 PM
Well done Nana! :yippee:

A present for NA-MUG's return :bowdown:
:lol:

Rod the Bama
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:32 PM
What a disappointing performance from Maria. :o Her shotmaking throughout the match left a lot to be desired. Obviously this will be something for her to work on before Wimbledon. Na Li really did a good job of playing some short balls, which took Maria out of her comfort zone.

Just Do It
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:32 PM
Woah but happy for Na :)

Vee Williams
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:32 PM
She was jinxed. :tears:

No, she was outplayed.

madmax
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:33 PM
well, that was horrible from Maria...nothing more to add really

Adal
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:33 PM
Such a shame she can only serve well against nobodies and her serve breaks down with the rest of her game when she actually faces a decent opponent.

Actually a shame though, I don't really feel she's even Top 20 worthy atm and things aren't looking too good. Something needs to be done. New coach maybe?

Monzanator
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:34 PM
No serve for Maria. Second set was just about tanked. Nevermind, bring on Wimbledon :bounce:

P_Fer
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Hard to win a match without a return or serve, eh Maria?
Improve for Wimbledon!

Congrats Na

Julian.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Pathetic performance from Maria :help:

Nikkiri
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Well done Na :cheer:

Olórin
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Hopefully the second set was just a strategic tank, otherwise :unsure:
Good as Li is, a breadstick even against current Maria is worrisome.

heavensider
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:36 PM
wow!!!

Super Na !!!!!!!!

Marco Fernandes
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:36 PM
NA LI: "Today I was just too good, sorry Maria".

Please learn how to speak english! -.-

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:36 PM
What a disappointing performance from Maria. :o Her shotmaking throughout the match left a lot to be desired. Obviously this will be something for her to work on before Wimbledon. Na Li really did a good job of playing some short balls, which took Maria out of her comfort zone.

it's very unusual to see Maria loosing 6 - 1. I don't recall witnessing this type of lost!!:confused:
Her serve wasn't there, can't return... can't make any shots...

It's simply not her day. But no excuses!!! she'll survive!

Break My Rapture
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Maria was so bad today. :happy: :happy:
But Na played like a top 5 player today so I guess we should be proud Maria was a break up against her. :rolls:
Served awful today.
Congrats Na! :yeah: Played really well.

doni1212
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Once again, when Sharapova faces a top player, all those amazing serve stats disappear. She wins against scrubs and loses against players that can actually play, :shrug:

Gilardino
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:38 PM
Victory ceremony Na behaviour was sooooooo weird...

steffiandbibi
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:38 PM
:bigclap:
so, na is back to top 10?

VIKA?
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:38 PM
the ceremony:lol:

delicatecutter
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:38 PM
GOATNA is back!!! :bowdown:

goldenlox
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Sharapova is playing too many MM events. She is better off getting buried by a top 20 player than thinking a win over Sesil or Riske means something.

I think she is smart to experiment with rackets and synthetic strings, but still a lot of work to do for Maria

Dawson.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Fuck yes Na!! :worship:

Maria :hug:

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Once again, when Sharapova faces a top player, all those amazing serve stats disappear. She wins against scrubs and loses against players that can actually play, :shrug:

Well said but how can you not able to serve at all?:confused: what is got to do with who you are playing against!!:confused:

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:39 PM
yay. another loss for maria :dance:

GL getting to the 2nd round of Wimbledon. You'll need it maria. :o

Ellery
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:40 PM
omg Na :hearts: So amaze :inlove:

.Andrew.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Na :woohoo: :drool:

Well done, so happy for you. :yippee:

Vee Williams
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Well said but how can you not able to serve at all?:confused: what is got to do with who you are playing against!!:confused:

intimidated by the opponent's return could be one reason

joão.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Maria :shrug: Such a bad match, Na was playing really good though.
:lol: at Na during the awards presentation.
I can't believe this is only Na's third career title though :o

Anyway, get it together this week Maria and good luck in Wimbledon!

fridayeggs
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Go fuck yourself you bitch Maria

steffiandbibi
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:41 PM
the ceremony:lol:

what happened? any video clip?

cn ireland
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:41 PM
Maria:sobbing:

SHILIN-GOAT
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:41 PM
Victory ceremony Na behaviour was sooooooo weird...

:rolleyes: what you expect :confused:
English not easy for her :o

Zhao
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:41 PM
NA LI: "Today I was just too good, sorry Maria".

Please learn how to speak english! -.-

Na is right .if not why else u think Maria won less than 10 points in the 2nd? :shrug:

Vaidisova Ruled
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:41 PM
Go fuck yourself you bitch Maria
Sorry, but reading this I was :haha:

SHILIN-GOAT
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:41 PM
A present for NA-MUG's return :bowdown:

Masha :hug: (remember it's only a mm :secret::))

yes Na play bad as soon as I leave TF and play well after I return TF :rocker:

hdfb
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:42 PM
NA LI: "Today I was just too good, sorry Maria".

Please learn how to speak english! -.-

Please, Na speaks better Chinese than Maria does Russian.

Victory ceremony Na behaviour was sooooooo weird...

Yeah Na is always like that whenever I watch her interviews :lol: She doesn't articulate herself well enough in English and her light "jokes" don't come out well :lol:

No, she was outplayed.

She was indeed. Na's return game was deep and effective and didn't give Maria enough time to recover. There were quite a few points where all of Na's shots just hit the baseline a few times over. Amazing to watch really. When Maria smacks the ball for a winner she makes it look so strenous with her long weird swing, Na makes it look effortless. :hearts:

thegreendestiny
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:42 PM
MMaria :sobbing:

Rafito.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:42 PM
Like everyone said before it's just a MM. :shrug:

Vodkapova
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:42 PM
No, she was outplayed.

You have no idea about the power of JINX. ASIANS WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD11! :hysteric:

although i dont mind cause i'm asian. go china. we are the smartest and you know it.

M.P
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:42 PM
GOD I missed the 1st set towards the last 3 points with the stupid computer hanging 2 times :tape:

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:43 PM
yes i recorded the ceremony and sadly the end of the match which is not worth uploading to youtube error error error i will upload the ceremony though

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Please, Na speaks better Chinese than Maria does Russian.



Yeah Na is always like that whenever I watch her interviews :lol: She doesn't articulate herself well enough in English and her light "jokes" don't come out well :lol:



She was indeed. Na's return game was deep and effective and didn't give Maria enough time to recover. There were quite a few points where all of Na's shots just hit the baseline a few times over. Amazing to watch really. When Maria smacks the ball for a winner she makes it look so strenous with her long weird swing, Na makes it look effortless. :hearts:

Obviously :lol:

Adal
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Like everyone said before it's just a MM. :shrug:
Worrying though that she can't win even them these days.

selesbooz
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Once again, when Sharapova faces a top player, all those amazing serve stats disappear. She wins against scrubs and loses against players that can actually play, :shrug:

considering that this is the first player ranked higher then her that she has faced all year. Shows that you know crap and is only posting to make fun of her. shouldn't the fact the she lost be satifaction enough.

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Like everyone said before it's just a MM. :shrug:

used to be okay circa 2004-2008. now she doesn't win anything else, so if she loses a MM, what the hell is she gonna win?

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Tank job I have nothing else to say the second was just useless, no move, no serve nothing at all. She didn't bother at all tank job end of story.

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Na's third title of her career :) Served and hit pretty well today and should be very proud of herself! Finally a good result after struggling so much after the Australian Open.

Unfortunate for Maria that her serve kinda deserted her after she had kept it stable for most of the week. She just can't seem to break Na at Birmingham :lol:

Bodes well for Wimbledon, for both of them :D

3 aces / 0 DFs for Na
1 ace / 7 DFs for Maria.


i'm sorry, but how does this bode well for maria at wimbledon :confused:? her stats are just :o. she can easily beat players she should be beating, but just seems to cave against players who can challenge her.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Tank job.

:weirdo: Why would Sharapova tank a final? :lol:

Well done Li Na, you were awesome :cheer:

ChriS.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Maria gave up in the end because she knew Na was on form and she was not going to win no matter what she did. Great serving by Na. Maria actually started off playing really well so all the credit goes to Na for winning this. Na was fortunate she played Maria today because if she played some low ranked player she would have lost - Na only plays her best against top players.

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:45 PM
maybe she should go back to playing ITFs and then when she gets better go back to WTA events.

leebeasy
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Good for Na! She deserves far more titles than she has, hope she can have a good run at wimbledon. :)

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:46 PM
:weirdo: Why would Sharapova tank a final? :lol:

Well done Li Na, you were awesome :cheer:

Na Li played well in the first but in the second Maria just gave up.

Vaidisova Ruled
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:47 PM
used to be okay circa 2004-2008. now she doesn't win anything else, so if she loses a MM, what the hell is she gonna win?
She still wins our hearts :inlove:

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Na Li played well in the first but in the second Maria just gave up.

It happens you know, not necessarily a tank job.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:48 PM
why the hell would she go to ITF Tour if her ranking is in the top 20? if she fell out of the top 100 id understand but that just :confused: me

Nikkiri
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Good lord some Sharapova fans are so over dramatic. :lol:

Huntress55
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Maria:sobbing:

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Well said but how can you not able to serve at all?:confused: what is got to do with who you are playing against!!:confused:


it's all in her head; if she's nervous, the serve will break down.

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Worrying though that she can't win even them these days.

Well, this is part of her recovery. There is nothing to worry. it happens that you can have a bad day. I think this is a bad day for her.!

I saw her playing against Justin at RG this year and I think she can pull it back. I still have faith in Maria. However, she needs to move better in grass r make a better return, either one will be just fine

ce
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:49 PM
:inlove:
she is a top 10 player :shrug:

Libertango
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Wooo. After seeing her semi live yesterday, I had a feeling Na might be too strong overall for Maria. She was moving far better too. Oh, and for those who said she doesn't come off well in her speeches; well yesterday she really had the crowd laughing. :shrug: So it seems she does. it's just obvious english isn't her first language, but frankly, I admire anyone who can converse even remotely well, in front of all those people, in an almost alien language.

GO NA! :D

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM
good lord non sharapova fans love to hate ;)

s_j
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM
So Maria will be seeded 17th for Wimbledon!

She will meet a 9-16 seed in the third round!

If Maria meets a 9-12 seed, she will meet a 5-8 seed in the fourth round and 1-4 seed in the quarters.
If Maria meets a 13-16 seed, she will meet a 1-4 seed in the fourth round and 5-8 seed in the quarters.

Fingers crossed she's in JJ's or Caro's quarter! 50% chance!

Vee Williams
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Na Li played well in the first but in the second Maria just gave up.

What's all the talk about the tank job that is flooding this thread? Don't Maria fans always say how she fights till the end, for every point, no matter the score...? All of a sudden, she changed and started tanking? She was simply outplayed, that's it. It's not quantum physics.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM
NA LI: "Today I was just too good, sorry Maria".

Please learn how to speak english! -.-

She is right, she won in straights :weirdo:

it's very unusual to see Maria loosing 6 - 1. I don't recall witnessing this type of lost!!:confused:
Her serve wasn't there, can't return... can't make any shots...

It's simply not her day. But no excuses!!! she'll survive!

AO final : Serena Williams def Maria Sharapova 6-1 6-2 :happy:
Miami 2007 : Serena Williams def Maria Sharapova 6-1 6-1 :happy:

Once again, when Sharapova faces a top player, all those amazing serve stats disappear. She wins against scrubs and loses against players that can actually play, :shrug:

:worship: PREACH IT !

Sharapova is playing too many MM events. She is better off getting buried by a top 20 player than thinking a win over Sesil or Riske means something.

I think she is smart to experiment with rackets and synthetic strings, but still a lot of work to do for Maria

LMAO ! :sobbing: :rolls:

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:50 PM
why the hell would she go to ITF Tour if her ranking is in the top 20? if she fell out of the top 100 id understand but that just :confused: me

i don't think she'll be in top 20 if she keeps playing like this :help:

she won a premier last year and made a final. PLUS a GS QF. and she's not gonna do it playing like that. she'll be around 30-50

Vodkapova
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Why are Asians so smart? Why do we have the highest SAT scores? I guess it's in our blood.

Rafito.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:52 PM
Duck feet for dinner with the prize money :rolleyes:

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:53 PM
she hardley has anything to defend at wimbledon 3rd round US Open and a few other events i think she'll be fine ;) this loss is not something to panic about in all honesty.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:53 PM
So Maria will be seeded 17th for Wimbledon!

She will meet a 9-16 seed in the third round!

If Maria meets a 9-12 seed, she will meet a 5-8 seed in the fourth round and 1-4 seed in the quarters.
If Maria meets a 13-16 seed, she will meet a 1-4 seed in the fourth round and 5-8 seed in the quarters.

Fingers crossed she's in JJ's or Caro's quarter! 50% chance!

I think even Caro can beat Maria....

What's all the talk about the tank job that is flooding this thread? Don't Maria fans always say how she fights till the end, for every point, no matter the score...? All of a sudden, she changed and started tanking? She was simply outplayed, that's it. It's not quantum physics.

IKR :bigcry:


Actually grass isn't Maria's best surface anymore, but clay :sobbing: :happy:

New
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:54 PM
I was rather disappointed by the effort shown by Maria in the second set... I felt she could have hung in there more...

The first Set was exciting though, I thought it was going into a tie break despite Li having 3 set points! That was how aggressive Maria was in the first set...

Well done Li! :bounce: I think Maria still needs more time to get back to her form... It seems up and down these days...

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:54 PM
li na has beaten venus serena she beat serena after losing a set 6-0 so what? ;) editing love it. serena or venus will win wimbledon anyway

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:54 PM
i don't think she'll be in top 20 if she keeps playing like this :help:

she won a premier last year and made a final. PLUS a GS QF. and she's not gonna do it playing like that. she'll be around 30-50

GS QF :confused: ?

fridayeggs
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:54 PM
so na li will tank her match vs baltacha in eastbourne??

cellophane
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:54 PM
The final was shorter than the men's presentation at Halle. :lol:

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:55 PM
What's all the talk about the tank job that is flooding this thread? Don't Maria fans always say how she fights till the end, for every point, no matter the score...? All of a sudden, she changed and started tanking? She was simply outplayed, that's it. It's not quantum physics.

Maybe cause she realized Li was playing too well and that playing the way she was playing, there was no way she'd win...so she gave in a little.

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:55 PM
debby :spit:

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:55 PM
She is right, she won in straights :weirdo:



AO final : Serena Williams def Maria Sharapova 6-1 6-2 :happy:
Miami 2007 : Serena Williams def Maria Sharapova 6-1 6-1 :happy:



:worship: PREACH IT !



LMAO ! :sobbing: :rolls:

I don't see a big problem about it, she'll come back strong. it's not her first time loosing this bad..so no bid deal, it's just part of the game. ;)

Adal
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:55 PM
GS QF :confused: ?
Roland Garros QF last year ;)

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:55 PM
li na has beaten venus serena she took a set 6-0 from serena so what?

I really don't like Maria but I fully agree with you, as long as I think Caro and some other can beat Maria at Wimbledon, it doesn't mean Maria can't beat them, I am sure she can, and she will be back at her best one day. It's very hard to return back from a tough injury, she still needs a bit of time.
It's not like she lost to Tan 6-1 6-2 :sobbing: (Nicole :( )

Joe.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:56 PM
LOL that 2nd set. :rolls:
Sorry Masha but that was bad. :lol:
Anyway, a finals a final. Now concentrate on Wimbledon. ;)

Kworb
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Na is the most talented player of all time. Expected result.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:56 PM
I think even Caro can beat Maria....

And I think you still drunk if you know what I mean.:lol:

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:56 PM
GS QF :confused: ?

A fluke Roland Garros run.

Her last 2nd week at a GS.

Oh back in those days.

Vodkapova
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:57 PM
^ Her RG this year, she also reached the second week thanks to rain delays. :lol:

Imperfect Angel
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:57 PM
I was so wrong. Na :worship: :cheer:
Maria can't even beat a ballbasher these days?:shrug:

Caralenko
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:58 PM
Omg debby :tears: I love you but please stop before you embarass yourself.

i'm sorry, but how does this bode well for maria at wimbledon :confused:? her stats are just :o.

She made the final of a grass tournament and had some warm up. That's still 4 wins on grass and it does help to get used to bad bounces and such :shrug:

Emiel Goelen
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:58 PM
Yes! Great result! :worship:

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:58 PM
oh yeah. keep those rain coming. because she can't do it on her own.

it has to be the weather or illegal coaching that gets her to second week of GSes :worship:

loppy
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:58 PM
Congrats Li Na :kiss:

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:59 PM
The final was shorter than the men's presentation at Halle. :lol:

:rolls: I stopped watching it, it's annoying when it lasts forever in a non-Slam tournament.

Maybe cause she realized Li was playing too well and that playing the way she was playing, there was no way she'd win...so she gave in a little.

:spit:

@Narutos : :confused: Caro plays pretty well on grass and Sharapova still struggles against most of top players, so I think I am not that crazy to think Caro could beat Maria :tape: Everybody thought Henin would destroy her (I didn't agree), and Henin struggled really hard.

Lysias
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:00 PM
Please, Na speaks better Chinese than Maria does Russian.
So what?

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:00 PM
Maybe I should stop following tennis til RG next year. It's so embarassing :lol:

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Omg debby :tears: I love you but please stop before you embarass yourself.

At least you won't be alone in your embarrassment :inlove: You know, when you said Aga > Maria :happy: But I love you Cara. :tears:

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:01 PM
I was so wrong. Na :worship: :cheer:
Maria can't even beat a ballbasher these days?:shrug:

I'll be worried as if she is playing well and still loose. but this is not the case right?;)

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:02 PM
:rolls: I stopped watching it, it's annoying when it lasts forever in a non-Slam tournament.



:spit:

@Narutos : :confused: Caro plays pretty well on grass and Sharapova still struggles against most of top players, so I think I am not that crazy to think Caro could beat Maria :tape: Everybody thought Henin would destroy her (I didn't agree), and Henin struggled really hard.

How is that funny?

Daniel K
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:02 PM
The final was shorter than the men's presentation at Halle. :lol:

:lol: So true! I thought it would never end.

Caralenko
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:02 PM
At least you won't be alone in your embarrassment :inlove: You know, when you said Aga > Maria :happy: But I love you Caca. :tears:

:sobbing: Atleast on grass! Gosh.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:04 PM
anywaaaay congratulations in reaching the final maria,your record in birmingham is amazing atleast you play before wimbledon on grass i would love to see more of venus and serena on grass other than wimbledon :sad:

Vaidisova Ruled
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:04 PM
I think even Caro can beat Maria....


Please, I know that you don't like Maria (and I'm fine with that), but here you really appear as a hater (you have already 7 posts in this thread). Most Maria fans are not mad but surprised (maybe 2 or 3 blind fans are going crazy but that's it).

And if you like Caro so much, then congratulation, you'll be able to see her way more than Maria, because she is #3.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:04 PM
:@Narutos : :confused: Caro plays pretty well on grass and Sharapova still struggles against most of top players, so I think I am not that crazy to think Caro could beat Maria :tape: Everybody thought Henin would destroy her (I didn't agree), and Henin struggled really hard.

She push pretty well you mean:lol:

terceira
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:05 PM
:eek: Masha :eek:

Well done Nana :bounce:

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:05 PM
How is that funny?

:o

:sobbing: Atleast on grass! Gosh.

Well, that's what I meant :lol: But you are right, Aga would not have lost to Na Li.


j/k :sobbing:

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:06 PM
You're special, debby.

azmad_88
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:06 PM
cngrats li

Direwolf
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:07 PM
maria!!!
get your act together!!!

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:07 PM
in the WTA's, ranking doesn't seem to mean much lately. I think any player, a dark horse, can beat just about most players in the top 10. The only tough one to me right now is Serena.

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:08 PM
putting this disaster in perspective, it was still just an mm, after all. and, on the flip side, if maria had won today, she might have gotten overconfident heading into wimbledon. now, if she remains positive, she will still be hungry.

as for those people who say she hasn't beaten a top 40 player this year, have you forgotten her win over medina garrigues (#38 this week) in strasbourg? how convenient :rolleyes:.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:08 PM
it really doesn't mean shit just like roger losing to hewitt ;)

uploading the birmingham ceremony now

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:09 PM
You're special, debby.

She is a Henin fan:tape:

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Please, I know that you don't like Maria (and I'm fine with that), but here you really appear as a hater (you have already 7 posts in this thread). Most Maria fans are not mad but surprised (maybe 2 or 3 blind fans are going crazy but that's it).

And if you like Caro so much, then congratulation, you'll be able to see her way more than Maria, because she is #3.

I am not a glory hunter except with the football team of France :tears:
And I don't care about Caro, I do care about Justine, and she is going to lose in R1 at Wimbledon. :lol: Then, you can make fun of her, and you should do :lol:

Thanks Craig, I will take that as a compliment.

Seriously, don't worry :yawn: WTA is such a mess these days that even losing in R1 of a MM tournament doesn't mean you are going to be crap at the next Slam. I am sure Maria will be dangerous again. She just needs to sort her return game out. And she is still young, she is not a quitter, she will be around for a few years.

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:10 PM
putting this disaster in perspective, it was still just an mm, after all. and, on the flip side, if maria had won today, she might have gotten overconfident heading into wimbledon. now, if she remains positive, she will still be hungry.

as for those people who say she hasn't beaten a top 40 player this year, have you forgotten her win over medina garrigues (#38 this week) in strasbourg? how convenient :rolleyes:.

she was number 54 at the time though.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:10 PM
Masha fans are the the biggest group of drama queens on this forum, and thats saying something.

Brena
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:11 PM
Fingers crossed she's in JJ's or Caro's quarter! 50% chance!

Fingers crossed she's in Serena's quarter. :hearts:

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:12 PM
she was number 54 at the time though.

proof would help.

Smoothstuff
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:13 PM
Sharapova is useless on grass these days :shrug:

Well done Li

Carotastrophe
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:14 PM
Well done, Na :inlove:

Lysias
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:15 PM
So Maria will be seeded 17th for Wimbledon!

She will meet a 9-16 seed in the third round!

If Maria meets a 9-12 seed, she will meet a 5-8 seed in the fourth round and 1-4 seed in the quarters.
If Maria meets a 13-16 seed, she will meet a 1-4 seed in the fourth round and 5-8 seed in the quarters.

Fingers crossed she's in JJ's or Caro's quarter! 50% chance!

I really hope she will reach third or fourth round, but have no confidence of that.

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:15 PM
Sharapova is useless on grass these days :shrug:

Well done Li


I hope you are wrong! but I hear you!!

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:17 PM
Sharapova is useless on grass these days :shrug:

Well done Li

;)

FERLKE
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:18 PM
:bigclap::devil::devil:

Congrats NA :bowdown:

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:19 PM
wimbledon is her favourite tournament TRUST me she will fight a hell of a lot more than she did in that second set today!

Vaidisova Ruled
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:20 PM
I am not a glory hunter except with the football team of France :tears:
And I don't care about Caro, I do care about Justine, and she is going to lose in R1 at Wimbledon. :lol: Then, you can make fun of her, and you should do :lol:

Thanks Craig, I will take that as a compliment.

Seriously, don't worry :yawn: WTA is such a mess these days that even losing in R1 of a MM tournament doesn't mean you are going to be crap at the next Slam. I am sure Maria will be dangerous again. She just needs to sort her return game out. And she is still young, she is not a quitter, she will be around for a few years.
2 years ago, I was just like you, but with Ana Ivanovic. And when I see the state of the WTA, I want Ana to be a top 10 player again, and I really hope that she will get there soon. I don't find her losses really funny. And let's face it, Maria needs to go back to top 10 too. If I was a Maria hater, I know I would like to see her in the top 10.

Masha fans are the the biggest group of drama queens on this forum, and thats saying something.
I don't see a lot but at least, we're not the dumbest

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:20 PM
;)


not true, she still can bring crowds! ;)

Keegan
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Maria could not do anything. Na was pounding the ball ridiculously hard. You could even hear Maria straining under the power. Na was by far the better player and Sharapova could genuinely do nothing. The reason why she beat Na on clay is because Na's powerful shots are basically stopped dead on clay. On grass, it's no surprise that Sharapova lost. Na's game is perfect for grass, and when she's playing well there's next to nothing that one can do. Congratulations to Na, she really earnt the title today.

I also don't get why people are panicking about this. A) If she met Serena/Venus in the QF that would still be her best GS performance to date. B) She still reached the final of a tournament and that's an achievement in itself.

$uricate
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:22 PM
I was gonna be happy and sad no matter who won.

Im happy for Na, finally gettin the title after last years final shocker.

Maria :hug:

Lysias
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Masha fans are the the biggest group of drama queens on this forum, and thats saying something.

Really? Tell me who are drama queens in this thread?

silentLIFE
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:24 PM
Congratulations to Na Li. I knew she was gonna end up winning, especially if Maria served badly :bounce:

Shvedbarilescu
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:25 PM
proof would help.

http://www.internationaux-strasbourg.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Simple-et-Double.pdf

:rolleyes:

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:25 PM
2 years ago, I was just like you, but with Ana Ivanovic. And when I see the state of the WTA, I want Ana to be a top 10 player again, and I really hope that she will get there soon. I don't find her losses really funny. And let's face it, Maria needs to go back to top 10 too. If I was a Maria hater, I know I would like to see her in the top 10.

Actually it's only Birmingham so I can laugh at her.
But if she loses to a scrub in a Slam, it won't be even funny. I want her to get crushed by Henin in Wimbledon final (but it's not gonna happen :lol: ) . You know, I was a Masha fan circa 2006 , and when she lost to Henin at RG, I was not even that happy, I was mostly relieved. ;)
So for that, JamieOwen is right at 100% , Maria will fight a lot more at Wimbledon, her favourite Slam.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Actually it's only Birmingham so I can laugh at her.
But if she loses to a scrub in a Slam, it won't be even funny. I want her to get crushed by Henin in Wimbledon final (but it's not gonna happen :lol: ) . You know, I was a Masha fan circa 2006 , and when she lost to Henin at RG, I was not even that happy, I was mostly relieved. ;)
So for that, JamieOwen is right at 100% , Maria will fight a lot more at Wimbledon, her favourite Slam.

You were so not a Mashafan back in 2006 well maybe at the beginning of the year when Henin rolled over Maria twice, but sth changed since Maria won that final I know that.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:28 PM
trollby agrees :D

look at maria's strokes here in 2004 though against daniela :sad:

nKBMJk28j4o

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:29 PM
Oh Pova :o

Given my luck , we will get a Sharapova Dementieva in 4th round :rolleyes:

Shafanovic.
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:30 PM
^ if only her groundstrokes, her serve, her movement and her outfits were as good as back then.

i didn't even know what tennis was in 2004.

Vodkapova
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:33 PM
I have calmed myself down with Asian-related posts and 6 cubes of cheese. It was so yummy. :tears:

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:34 PM
You were so not a Mashafan back in 2006 well maybe at the beginning of the year when Henin rolled over Maria twice, but sth changed since Maria won that final I know that.

:lol:
Until the US Open 2006 final actually. I cheered for Maria so much when she was playing Amélie... Kim in that Stanford final, you know, I had even a Maria avatar on MSN. You didn't know that, did you? ;)

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:35 PM
I don't see a lot but at least, we're not the dumbest

Don't know about that, I have seen her fans explain how she tanks in slams.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:39 PM
Don't know about that, I have seen her fans claim how she tanks in slams.

Who said such things?:lol:

Hugh.
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:39 PM
No idea where Maria's serve went today, especially after serving so well yesterday. A shame really, because there was no way she could win serving like that, which is why she pretty much tanked the 2nd set.

Congrats to Li Na though, she played very well.

Tenis Srbija
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:41 PM
A total of 7 points won by Maria in second set. :worship:

Well done, Na!

:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:45 PM
^ if only her groundstrokes, her serve, her movement and her outfits were as good as back then.

i didn't even know what tennis was in 2004.

I know what you mean. Plus, i think she can definitely bring a lot more excitments to the game of tennis

brickhousesupporter
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:48 PM
NA LI: "Today I was just too good, sorry Maria".

Please learn how to speak english! -.-

I think she said exactly what she meant. Congrats Li

Better luck next time Maria.

Gêmeos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:49 PM
Well down Na:bounce:
Sorry for Sharapova,hope you can do better in the next International tour and win one title again.Of course,win over a top-40 player.:wavey:

$uricate
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:58 PM
I know what you mean. Plus, i think she can definitely bring a lot more excitments to the game of tennis

Maria and Ana are the excitement of the WTA.

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:00 PM
The same old story, as soon as she faces a decent opponent Sharapova's game falls apart. It's getting tiresome.
Very good match from Na Li though. She was unusually composed and accurate on her groundstrokes.

doni1212
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:01 PM
Tank job.

Ok, :lol:

Well said but how can you not able to serve at all?:confused: what is got to do with who you are playing against!!:confused:

Read below.

intimidated by the opponent's return could be one reason

Yup!

What's all the talk about the tank job that is flooding this thread? Don't Maria fans always say how she fights till the end, for every point, no matter the score...? All of a sudden, she changed and started tanking? She was simply outplayed, that's it. It's not quantum physics.

So true.

Infiniti2001
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:04 PM
WTF Pova :smash:

MakarovaFan
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Once again, when Sharapova faces a top player, all those amazing serve stats disappear. She wins against scrubs and loses against players that can actually play, :shrug:
Really hmm i seem to recall her beating Li just last year,and this is the FIRST top 20/good opponent she has faced all year(other than Venus and Caro in an EXO) so what exactly are you basing it off??(and if you are icluding last year well buddy she had a very win heavy h2h against the top players last season)

Diesel
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:05 PM
I guess a result no longer unexpected.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:08 PM
MARIA IN 2005 WOULD NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN,BUT PROPS TO LI NA FOR HAVING IMPROVED A HECK OF A LOT SINCE THIS MATCH

FP06W5bRMos

supergrunt
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:15 PM
MARIA IN 2005 WOULD NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN,BUT PROPS TO LI NA FOR HAVING IMPROVED A HECK OF A LOT SINCE THIS MATCH

FP06W5bRMos

yeah 5 YEARS AGO :)

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:16 PM
i know i won't get into an argument with anyone that's a venus :hearts: fan i was just saying

supergrunt
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:17 PM
just joshin

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:17 PM
btw li na's look on her face in this picture looks :confused: lol :lol: congrats to her again well deserved.
http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc170/th_40243_aegon2010_final_maldita_1_122_170lo.jpg (http://img169.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=40243_aegon2010_final_maldita_1_122_ 170lo.jpg)

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Maria and Ana are the excitement of the WTA.

what do you think happen to Ana? will she ever come back? considereing Maria back from a major shoulder injury disaster, I think Maria has done quite well.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:21 PM
just joshin


it's :cool: it's hard to say sometimes especially after seeing a few of the posts on here,it's especially hard 4 me cuz im an equal fan of serena venus and maria and hate seeing bad things being said about the others by each others fans.

Belmont Lad
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Maria really needed this title victory over this quality opponent in my mind. Very disappointing. :(

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Btw, I would just like to congratulate Na on how well she played... sure, Maria didn't push her all that much, but she was solid, consistent and her groundstrokes and serving (especially impressive I thought) were on throughout. Really took that match from Maria though Maria was admittedly far from her best. Well done :yeah:

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:25 PM
here it is the trophy ceremony

bdGN3zEB4oU

brickhousesupporter
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:29 PM
Don't know about that, I have seen her fans explain how she tanks in slams.
Yes, I remember that. It was after the Aus Open loss to Kirilenko, they said that she knew she was not going to beat top players so she lost to Kirilenko so she would not lose against a top player and lose more confidence.

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:34 PM
http://www.internationaux-strasbourg.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Simple-et-Double.pdf

:rolleyes:

whatever. you know that amg on clay is better than #54. but, if toeing this line makes you happy, so be it.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:35 PM
you might want to refrase because when you say maria fans you're implying all of us ive never said it,kirilenko deserved the win she played great.
maria would never tank especially in a slam and one which she didn't get a chance to defend the year b4 through injury.

doni1212
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Really hmm i seem to recall her beating Li just last year,and this is the FIRST top 20/good opponent she has faced all year(other than Venus and Caro in an EXO) so what exactly are you basing it off??(and if you are icluding last year well buddy she had a very win heavy h2h against the top players last season)

:speakles:

I'm not including last year but obviously you are, :lol:

Let's go over her season shall we...
1st: Loses to Kirilenko in Australia. A good opponent.
2nd: Wins Memphis against nobodies. No decent players. Average ranking of the players she faced: 95 (the highest ranked player was number 66 in the world while the lowest was 137 :help: )
3rd: Loses to Zheng and ALMOST/Should've lost to Dushevina. Good opponents.
4th: Loses to Safarova Good opponent.
5th: Wins Strasbourg. One somewhat decent opponent, the rest were scrubs again. Average ranking of the players she faced: 108 :help:
6th: FO where she faced a scrub, then an ok player I guess and then we all know what happened next. (First match this season that she lost when she should've won)
7th: Finally we have this tournament where she played scrubs until the final when she played a good opponent and then kapow...she loses.

Kanye:shrug:

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:44 PM
okay, so now i know that an impartial discussion about maria cannot be had with doni1212 and veewilliams :lol:.

Ferg
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:46 PM
Nana :bigclap: Always nice to see another title added to the collection of players like her. First really good player Sharapova has played in during her MM run.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:50 PM
6th: FO where she faced a scrub, then an ok player I guess and then we all know what happened next. (First match this season that she lost when she should've won)


Errr... no.

Gilardino
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:50 PM
MARIA IN 2005 WOULD NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN,BUT PROPS TO LI NA FOR HAVING IMPROVED A HECK OF A LOT SINCE THIS MATCH

FP06W5bRMos

green AO
:worship:

delicatecutter
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:56 PM
GOATNA's acceptance speech is hilarious. I love her obsession with Maria. :rolls:

Beny
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:01 PM
the trophy ceremony absolutely hilarious :lol:

The Dawntreader
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:05 PM
Another laboured display from Sharapova. No doubt, her serve is at least comparable pace-wise now to 05/06, but she has lost so much consistency and general accuracy on her serve, and seemigly the rest of her game has followed.

For someone who looked so much more agile, slender and purposeful on the surface 5 years ago, Sharapova just looks totally uneasy. Takes far too many lumbering steps at the ball, which cuts down reaction time and leaves her basically vulnerable any time she's forced to play defensively. As soon s Li drove Sharapova out-wide to her backhand- point over. Simple as. The main horror display from Sharapova today was her inability to string together any kind of returning rythm. This has really been the story for Sharapova since her AO win in '08, losing multiple return games with the most random, careless returns. There's hardly any compromise either, always trying to be UBER-aggressive, even when the %s are ridonkulously low. Against a competent, accurate server like Li, you have to at least try and work yourself into the point, instead of trying to blast yourself out of return games.

Li is such an anomaly when she plays like this. Strong, precision serving that gave her immediate control of the rallies, and she wasn't making such inexplicable errors deep in rallies. If anything she looked the far more comfortable trading pace to pace, knowing that her better mixture of width and pace was going to be effective, and indeed more effective than Sharapova's gameplan. Her BH CC is a top 5 shot in the making, with her ability to come over the ball and yank opponents out of court. Her footwork can lapse on that shot (and sometimes disastrously so), but the creativity is somewhat underrated IMO. Has a canny ability to hit down both lines with a fair degree of disguise, holding her shot until her opponent is left stranded.

Positive week for Li, and of course there are no certainties about her future performances (when are there ever?), but she played with enough conviction today to suggest a strong grass campaign. Sharapova is looking increasingly generic off the ground against top 20 players, but we'll see. If her serving stops fluctuating so wildly, then she has a shot at finding some kind of 'elite' level. Far, far away from that right now though.

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:09 PM
I feel bad for Maria!!:sad:

I wonder if her dad's present might be a help to her!

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Another laboured display from Sharapova. No doubt, her serve is at least comparable pace-wise now to 05/06, but she has lost so much consistency and general accuracy on her serve, and seemigly the rest of her game has followed.

For someone who looked so much more agile, slender and purposeful on the surface 5 years ago, Sharapova just looks totally uneasy. Takes far too many lumbering steps at the ball, which cuts down reaction time and leaves her basically vulnerable any time she's forced to play defensively. As soon s Li drove Sharapova out-wide to her backhand- point over. Simple as. The main horror display from Sharapova today was her inability to string together any kind of returning rythm. This has really been the story for Sharapova since her AO win in '08, losing multiple return games with the most random, careless returns. There's hardly any compromise either, always trying to be UBER-aggressive, even when the %s are ridonkulously low. Against a competent, accurate server like Li, you have to at least try and work yourself into the point, instead of trying to blast yourself out of return games.

Li is such an anomaly when she plays like this. Strong, precision serving that gave her immediate control of the rallies, and she wasn't making such inexplicable errors deep in rallies. If anything she looked the far more comfortable trading pace to pace, knowing that her better mixture of width and pace was going to be effective, and indeed more effective than Sharapova's gameplan. Her BH CC is a top 5 shot in the making, with her ability to come over the ball and yank opponents out of court. Her footwork can lapse on that shot (and sometimes disastrously so), but the creativity is somewhat underrated IMO. Has a canny ability to hit down both lines with a fair degree of disguise, holding her shot until her opponent is left stranded.

Positive week for Li, and of course there are no certainties about her future performances (when are there ever?), but she played with enough conviction today to suggest a strong grass campaign. Sharapova is looking increasingly generic off the ground against top 20 players, but we'll see. If her serving stops fluctuating so wildly, then she has a shot at finding some kind of 'elite' level. Far, far away from that right now though.


great analysis! my own personal take on maria's failures on grass is, that she's just gotten too tall to play effectively on the surface. think about it; the ball stays the lowest on grass, and reaching for those low bounces if you're 6'2'', is not easy.

it'd be interesting to know what her height was, when she won it in 2004. she was only 17, and growing, so she had to be shorter than her current height.

Jajaloo
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:13 PM
OMG! That ceremony! "Nothing better :lol: Yeah I mean, today I just play so good! :haha: Sorry Maria! :lol:"

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:15 PM
yeah meteor i agree :sad: when maria won wimbledon she was 6ft exactly a year later she was 6ft 2ins i don't know if she's grown even more :eek:

Libertango
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:16 PM
great analysis! my own personal take on maria's failures on grass is, that she's just gotten too tall to play effectively on the surface. think about it; the ball stays the lowest on grass, and reaching for those low bounces if you're 6'2'', is not easy.

it'd be interesting to know what her height was, when she won it in 2004. she was only 17, and growing, so she had to be shorter than her current height.

Possibly. But how tall is Venus? She aint bad on the stuff...

Russianboy
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:29 PM
the talk about first top 20 player is hilarious. we have wozniacki as #3 and schiavone at #6 and there are better players than these two in the top 50.
i mean maria would win against wozniacki any time. and schiavone probably too

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:34 PM
the talk about first top 20 player is hilarious. we have wozniacki as #3 and schiavone at #6 and there are better players than these two in the top 50.
i mean maria would win against wozniacki any time. and schiavone probably too

Please, Schiavone won a Slam this year, and Wozniacki is more consistant than Maria so they deserve their rankings. If Maria can't win against a top 20 opponent, how can you say she would win on any given day Wozniacki and Schiavone based on their current form? That's pure bullshit imo.

Richie's
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:34 PM
Li, well done.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:35 PM
the talk about first top 20 player is hilarious. we have wozniacki as #3 and schiavone at #6 and there are better players than these two in the top 50.
i mean maria would win against wozniacki any time. and schiavone probably too

Definitely agree I guess we have to wait Wimbledon's draw and hope that Maria faces Pushniacki in 4th round.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:41 PM
Please, Schiavone won a Slam this year, and Wozniacki is more consistant than Maria so they deserve their rankings. If Maria can't win against a top 20 opponent, how can you say she would win on any given day Wozniacki and Schiavone based on their current form? That's pure bullshit imo.

Debby what DO you want:lol: don't be so silly Pushniacki and Franco aren't playing top 5 tennis atm Li played really well in te first set and was actually dealing with Maria's pace I just can't see Woz and Franco do that. Maria was horrible in ROS I give you that but from baseline I don't think she should have a lot of trouble against both of them they never handle Maria's pace and probably never will.

Ferg
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:45 PM
People thinking Maria should be in top 10 in principle over actual goddamn results. too funneh :happy:

osseous
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:46 PM
Maria. :hug:

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:52 PM
yeah meteor i agree :sad: when maria won wimbledon she was 6ft exactly a year later she was 6ft 2ins i don't know if she's grown even more :eek:


yeah, that's what i remember; the commentators were saying that she was 6'0'' in 2004. and you definitely have a point that she may be more than 6/2'' now. there have definitely been articles on the web that have said she is taller; i think, for glamour reasons (i guess, according to fashion rules, it may not be "seemly" for a woman to be too tall), maria's camp is hiding her real height.

Serenita
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Na :hearts:

hankqq
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Li :yeah: :bigclap:
Sharapova :tape: :o her best win of the year is still Dushevina :help:

but now that Sharapova will be #17 going into Wimbledon, there's a chance she could draw Petrova in the 3rd rd :lol: ;) :p so she could reach the 4th rd this year!! :lol:

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Possibly. But how tall is Venus? She aint bad on the stuff...


not sure about venus's height but, obviously, tallness affects different people differently.

mdterp01
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Maria :o:help:

Li :yeah:

Just when you thought it was safe to consider Maria a legit contender to win Wimbledon. Thanks for the reminder of the people she's beaten this year and that she's not quite ready to win a major again.

delicatecutter
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:58 PM
Please, Schiavone won a Slam this year, and Wozniacki is more consistant than Maria so they deserve their rankings. If Maria can't win against a top 20 opponent, how can you say she would win on any given day Wozniacki and Schiavone based on their current form? That's pure bullshit imo.

Princess Olga almost took a set off Caro and she's like a D-level Sharapova. Caro has nothing to hurt Maria with and would be blown off the court in pretty quick fashion.

Anyway, this loss to Li means nothing really. When Na is on she can beat anybody and make them look pretty bad in the process. :inlove:

spiritedenergy
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:06 PM
MM queen lost lolz

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:11 PM
Princess Olga almost took a set off Caro and she's like a D-level Sharapova. Caro has nothing to hurt Maria with and would be blown off the court in pretty quick fashion.

Anyway, this loss to Li means nothing really. When Na is on she can beat anybody and make them look pretty bad in the process. :inlove:

not just Li case, today any players can beat just about any others players. There is no such a sure thing whether you are in top 10 or not!

Look at Safina, she is totaly lost ....I can name you many other players....

snowfox
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:17 PM
maria's first serve percentage today lost her the match . fact. nobody cud serve that percentage against as gd a returner as li na and expect to win the match. it has nothing to do with how tall she is or any other reason

gmak
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Maria :(

first set was OK
second set :help: :o

please improve for Wimbledon

Lucas_Arg
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:31 PM
Wow, that was a dissapointing performance by Maria, there's still room to improve. It's a shame that her serve fell apart in the final.
But you have to give the credit to Li, she played unbelievable.
See you at Wimbledon Maria!

Mistress of Evil
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:34 PM
Pathetic performance from Maria :help:

Yeap.

hurricanejeanne
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:50 PM
I don't think this is that bad of a loss for Maria. Na is a very good player and if she's playing very well she's going to be tough to beat period.
Maria just needs to focus on staying healthy and regaining her consistency.

Congrats, Na!

Shepster
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:10 PM
Ai way too good today, Maria I think has really struggled at Brum because suddenly she finds herself in the semis/final without having played anyone half decent then along pops Na who's had tougher runs through.

Today though, return of serve was key, Maria's was gash and Li was handling hers fine. Masha came out so strong I thought I was finally going to see a great performance out of her here, but after the first two games it was really all Na. Much more spin, placement and control, kept her head better, totally outclassed her. Pics to come.

cellophane
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:14 PM
Ai way too good today, Maria I think has really struggled at Brum because suddenly she finds herself in the semis/final without having played anyone half decent then along pops Na who's had tougher runs through.

Ai? :scratch:

Ellery
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:14 PM
Ai :hearts:

Mrs. Peel
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:22 PM
Li :yeah: :bigclap:
Sharapova :tape: :o her best win of the year is still Dushevina :help:

but now that Sharapova will be #17 going into Wimbledon, there's a chance she could draw Petrova in the 3rd rd :lol: ;) :p so she could reach the 4th rd this year!! :lol:

:lol:

M.P
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:22 PM
AI Li!!!

BluSthil
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:34 PM
Nice win for Li Na. I believe she's back in the Top 10 again. Very solid player. Might go far at Wimbledon.

In her interview, Sharapova stated that she played Birmingham to get some "games" in. Very disingenuous on her part. Just a few days ago Maria was reminded that Na Li beat her last year. Maria responed that she doesn't like to lose 2 times in a row by the same person. OOPS ! Li "beat" her down...

I wonder if Maria will make a bold statement about Wimbledon ? Just take your licks Maria...

SoClose
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Thank job.











Maria :o

andrewC
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:39 PM
NA RULESSSSSSSSS :banana: So happy for her. Will do her the world of good for confidence, now she just needs to beat Petrova... :lol:

treufreund
Jun 13th, 2010, 07:49 PM
There are several aspects to Sharapova's game that are real weaknesses on grass. Her serve placement and serve in general are not that consistent. Her returns are erratic. Her movement is therefore vital and yet we all know that her movement and defensive are very poor in general. She also cannot hit a basic volley or execute a slice backhand. Almost all great grass court players are either phenomenal movers and athlets and MOST OF THEM have excellent slices (see Graf, Federer, McEnroe, Navratilova, Sampras, Edberg, Becker, Mauresmo, Novotna). If you don't have the slice then you better have great footspeed like Venus Williams, Lleyton Hewitt or Nadal. Sharapova, if played the proper way strategically by her opponent, has some pretty extreme vulnerabilities in her game that must be addressed IMHO.

Not picking on her at all btw. I like Maria's professionalism and diplomatic sense of fair play. I am only commenting on the flaws in her game on grass (and in general)

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 13th, 2010, 08:04 PM
The first top 20 player she faces , she gets breadsticked.
Has yet to beat a top 40 player this year :sobbing:

Well done Na :yeah:

:help::worship::worship::worship:

drgray
Jun 13th, 2010, 08:30 PM
:tape: :sad: :bigcry:

</3

tonybotz
Jun 13th, 2010, 08:32 PM
There are several aspects to Sharapova's game that are real weaknesses on grass. Her serve placement and serve in general are not that consistent. Her returns are erratic. Her movement is therefore vital and yet we all know that her movement and defensive are very poor in general. She also cannot hit a basic volley or execute a slice backhand. Almost all great grass court players are either phenomenal movers and athlets and MOST OF THEM have excellent slices (see Graf, Federer, McEnroe, Navratilova, Sampras, Edberg, Becker, Mauresmo, Novotna). If you don't have the slice then you better have great footspeed like Venus Williams, Lleyton Hewitt or Nadal. Sharapova, if played the proper way strategically by her opponent, has some pretty extreme vulnerabilities in her game that must be addressed IMHO.

Not picking on her at all btw. I like Maria's professionalism and diplomatic sense of fair play. I am only commenting on the flaws in her game on grass (and in general)

Yup- jocks win Wimbledon. Mash moved much better at 17

madlove
Jun 13th, 2010, 08:37 PM
great win li na~

Shepster
Jun 13th, 2010, 08:40 PM
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Potato
Jun 13th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Back in top 10 Na! :D Now if she doesn't qualify for Doha, she'll definitely make it for Bali.

Emina.
Jun 13th, 2010, 09:29 PM
Congrats Na! Great win! :cool: :)

Maria, :hug::sad::hug:good luck @ wimbly

Nice pics! :yeah:

Kitten63
Jun 13th, 2010, 09:29 PM
Congrats,Na!

Masha :hug:

Polikarpov
Jun 13th, 2010, 09:33 PM
:lol: at the people who thinks Sharapova is the third favorite to win Wimbledon behind the Sisters.

Libertango
Jun 13th, 2010, 09:38 PM
Having seen both live yesterday, I'm not surprised at this result. Na can match Maria for power and pace and her shots had far more consistent depth and width over the course of her semi-final in comparison to Maria. Her groundstrokes, particularly the CC shots, really skid through the court, moreso than Maria's did and her game seems more naturally suited to grass. However, the biggest difference was movement. Na looked nimble, light and quick, whereas Maria looked flat-footed and heavy at times. She just did not seem comfortable on the surface.

Well done Na; keep this up! Maria is showing flashes of brilliance (in the semi's her serve was on fire - hit about 9 aces - but you also have to consider how strong/weak Riske is at returning) but still has work to do; still, a good showing at Wimbledon wouldn't totally shock me. Good luck! :D

Pops Maellard
Jun 13th, 2010, 10:27 PM
Full credit to Superna! :)

Mash. :hug:

Corswandt
Jun 13th, 2010, 10:29 PM
Didn't watch the final as I suspected something like this would happen. Can't really say "expected result" though as I actually expected Sharapova to lose earlier, to Kudryavtseva or Rybarikova or some other random scrub.

Sharapova nowadays is just too slow, and her footwork is too clumsy, for her to be able to be consistently aggressive with her groundstrokes on any surface. On clay she can get away with playing neutral rallies until she gets a chance to set up her BH properly, but on grass she can be rushed and hit through before she can do so. Like I've said 32478543545 times before, ever since her final growth spurt in late 2005 Sharapova has become less competitive on grass with each passing year.

young_gunner913
Jun 13th, 2010, 10:43 PM
:spit::rolls: Congrats Na.

F-R-E-A-K
Jun 14th, 2010, 01:20 AM
:tape: Maria :help:


Congrats Na! :D :worship:

Tennis Ball
Jun 14th, 2010, 06:23 AM
Wow, well done, Na! Congrats with your trophy! :kiss: :worship:

Beat
Jun 14th, 2010, 07:35 AM
this is only na's 3rd title? :eek: wow, i had no idea.

and yeah, sharpie hasn't beaten anyone highly ranked in a very long time.

samsam4087
Jun 14th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Well done Na Li

AnDrEi.b
Jun 14th, 2010, 08:24 AM
Congratulations Na Li :banana:

~MashyOwnThemAll
Jun 14th, 2010, 09:11 AM
:lol: at the people who thinks Sharapova is the third favorite to win Wimbledon behind the Sisters.

Yes, I'm a fan but this is ridiculous.


She can't beat a Top40 player.... She is the "last favorit" between 1-32 seeds.

Libertango
Jun 14th, 2010, 10:36 AM
Just watched it. Maria was really poor at times and Na was more than good enough to just take complete advantage. Whenever Li moved her round, Li won the point. Li won the large majority of Sharapova's 2nd serve points. So there are the two porblems; movement and the serve. Mind you, by the end of the match, NOTHING Mria was doing was effective; her shots lost all direction and pace and Li took apart her game. Much for Maria to work on. And good for Na. She's fab when she's on.

narutos
Jun 14th, 2010, 10:57 AM
I thought NaLi was a brainless ballbasher but as soon as she beat Maria Sharapova she is the real deal, give me a break Maria was awful yesterday Na ain't gonna pass 4 rounds at Wimbledon.

JamieOwen3
Jun 14th, 2010, 02:35 PM
she hasn't beat a top seed in a very long time but who has she played??? she beat azarenka last time they played jankovic although retirement maria would have won anyway,stosur last time they played in tokyo,she beat venus and wozniacki in an exo b4 australian although a exo no one likes to lose ;)

Slampova
Jun 14th, 2010, 02:50 PM
:weirdo: Why would Sharapova tank a final? :lol:


So that her ranking doesn't move up that one place which reduces her chances of meeting either of the Williamses early on at Wimbledon :shrug:

Ferg
Jun 14th, 2010, 02:53 PM
I thought NaLi was a brainless ballbasher but as soon as she beat Maria Sharapova she is the real deal, give me a break Maria was awful yesterday Na ain't gonna pass 4 rounds at Wimbledon.

wahwahwah get over it. Sharapova will be lucky to reach the 4th round. Stop being so bitter.



And to the people saying this was a tank. :spit: First she tanking grand slams, now MMs :haha: