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The Kaz
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:21 AM
:shrug:

Discuss.

Steven.
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:26 AM
Elena Dementieva's :[

Caralenko
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:34 AM
Samantha Stevenson :spit:

Justin SW
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:35 AM
Samantha Stevenson

it-girl
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:39 AM
:worship:Oracene the Price is right:worship:
To have 1 legend for a child is a thing of beauty but to have 2 legends that are listed among the greatest of all time is unreal. Oracene has been great not only for her daughter's careers but also for fans who can appreciate a wonderful woman who is a down to earth mother who applauds her daughter's opponents shots. I really love how she does not look like she is about to pass out from worrying when she watches their matches. Oracene & Richard are a dynamic duo.:hearts:

Wiggly
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:40 AM
The best mom is Oracene.

Dementieva's mom had the greatest impact but in a bad way.

Polikarpov
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:42 AM
Melanie Molitorova. She basically "made" Martina.

claypova
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:43 AM
mummy vera :hearts:

osseous
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:43 AM
Elena D's. :)

The Kaz
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:50 AM
I forgot to include Samantha Stevenson :lol:

Chorophyll
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:59 AM
It doesn't matter. Melanie is the best mom in tennis history.

miffedmax
Jun 12th, 2010, 04:03 AM
Hard to say. Oracene should be declared a national treasure by Congress, but, far more than the other mom's listed in this poll, has to share credit with the other parent. You can also argue that, realistically for all Richard's bluster, he and Oracene have both been very canny about getting out of the way and letting professionals handle the girls' careers at key times. Of course, in some ways that is exerting an influence, albeit in a more subtle way.

The Mommy Vera/Elena relationship is probably more twisted and complex than we'll every really understand. I constantly hear contradictory reports on who really drives that bus--sometimes I hear it's Mommy Vera who calls the shots, other times I hear it's very much Elena who's in charge and is nearly impossible to coach due to her stubborness. It's certainly true that Lena wouldn't have been a tennis player without her mother's prodding, but it's not certain that their relationship has always been positive for Lena's career.

Snezana? Don't know her as well, but she always impresses me as more being along for the ride than Oracene or Mommy Vera. Not that she doesn't care, and not that JJ doesn't count on her for support, but she doesn't seem to pretend to be a "coach" like some of the other mom's do. (Oracene, IMHO, has always been more of a "manager" than "coach" and a damned effective one--I don't say that to disparage her at all). Their relationship doesn't seem to be on the same professional level as the WS, or as bizarrely dysfunctional as Lena and Mommy Vera.

Rausa and Dinara don't seem to be unusually close to me, maybe it's because I don't follow them closely enough. I think there was more influence when Dinara was little.

But Melanie Molitor was the one who said from the get-go she was going to raise a grand-slam winning daughter, even naming her after my personal choice for the greatest woman player ever. Yeah, I know you were all expecting me to pick Mommy Vera. But I'm going to cross everybody up and actually use my brain this time. Melanie Molitor it is, in a narrow win over Oracene and Mommy Vera.

fridayeggs
Jun 12th, 2010, 04:08 AM
dementieva's mom has prevented her from winning a grand slam

Dav.
Jun 12th, 2010, 04:12 AM
Alla Kournikova

Volcana
Jun 12th, 2010, 04:23 AM
Rauza is the one who's proved she could coach a slam winer who wasn't her own child. She's probably the best coach. BUt even if you only give Orecen 50% credit, it's 50% 0f 33 slam titles, and three Olympic Gold medals. That's a shade better than Melanie Molitor. OTOH, Hingis might have won more if she'd actually listened to her Mom more in 2000-2.

JustineTime
Jun 12th, 2010, 04:47 AM
Justine's mum. She's the greatest tennis mother ever to inspire her offspring to greatness in absentia. ;)

:)

alex.2812
Jun 12th, 2010, 05:19 AM
I think Mélanie Molitor raised an excellent tennis player but there is a problem she couldn't solve I guess because Martina should have won 10 slams at least but didn't because of mental issues.

Amalgamate
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:37 AM
Oracene for sure. Serena wins slams because she's crazy. Serena is crazy because her mother is Oracene.

Amalgamate
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:38 AM
I think Mélanie Molitor raised an excellent tennis player but there is a problem she couldn't solve I guess because Martina should have won 10 slams at least but didn't because of mental issues.

If only she had birthed Martina 20 years earlier.

Mr.Sharapova
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:45 AM
You forgot to out Jelena Jankovic's mom there Cause she drinks Water everytime her daughter hits a winner or wins a point:haha::haha:

About the Dads thing IMO Yuri Maria's dad did a good job with her daughter thats a real sacrifice he did with his life to save his daughter and bring him to the US with no money..Its a really strong Relationship daughter/father between them:angel:

kiwialicat
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:45 AM
well best mum is different from greatest impact mum. best would probably go to Serena and Venus' mother, but greatest impact is harder to work out because then you have to imagine what someone's career would be like if they hadn't had the positive/negative affect of their mum.

shega
Jun 12th, 2010, 09:43 AM
well best mum is different from greatest impact mum. best would probably go to Serena and Venus' mother, but greatest impact is harder to work out because then you have to imagine what someone's career would be like if they hadn't had the positive/negative affect of their mum.

That's true, you know.

black_fire
Jun 12th, 2010, 10:08 AM
Why is Yulia Berberian not included in that poll? She coached her all three daughters (the Maleeva sisters) and they all reached top 6 in their careers.

Aside from her I'd say Vera Dementieva.

Princeza
Jun 12th, 2010, 10:23 AM
Melanie Molitor.

You forgot to out Jelena Jankovic's mom there Cause she drinks Water everytime her daughter hits a winner or wins a point:haha::haha:


It's not water.
http://i44.tinypic.com/szzdr9.jpg

tennnisfannn
Jun 12th, 2010, 11:58 AM
Why isn't Goat Step Mama Lakeisha in that poll?

miffedmax
Jun 12th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Rauza is the one who's proved she could coach a slam winer who wasn't her own child. She's probably the best coach. BUt even if you only give Orecen 50% credit, it's 50% 0f 33 slam titles, and three Olympic Gold medals. That's a shade better than Melanie Molitor. OTOH, Hingis might have won more if she'd actually listened to her Mom more in 2000-2.

But as I recall, it was Richard who was really the one who inspired the girls to take up tennis.

Whereas in most interviews and stories I've read it was Melanie who decided her daughter would be a GS champ, Mommy Vera who got Lena into tennis, etc.

Again, I'm a big Oracene fan, but Team Williams has always been just that--and sometimes it's extended well beyond the Williams family. Believe me, as a Lena D. fan I look on that with envy.

But I do think she just gets edged out.

If it was "most successful tennis mom/coach" it would be no contest.

roelc
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:17 PM
indirectly maybe justine's mother. because of her death she probably was even more determined to get to the top

same can be said for yanina. after her mother's death she convinced her father to move to america and play tennis over there.

The Dawntreader
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Molitor turned Martina into a technical marvel. No teenager on tour arrived on the scene, with the seamless array of shots Hingis had.

However, the relationship IMO suffered in trying to find a balance between coach-mother-pupil-daughter. I think at times, the tennis became stronger than this, and as a result they had their infamous bust-up in '99. I'm only speculating, but it wasn't the most perfect scenario.

Oracene probably lacks the technical expertise, but she has been able to provide a constant support for both sisters always. One of Oracene's great strengths IMO, is making them rounded human beings first, and tennis players second.

swim4life227
Jun 12th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Lol @ Vera beating Oracene. Oracene has two legends and also doesn't even flinch when her children are down match point. How many slams has Vera led her child to winning? None, and it will stay that way.

Kworb
Jun 12th, 2010, 06:53 PM
Lol @ Vera beating Oracene. Oracene has two legends and also doesn't even flinch when her children are down match point. How many slams has Vera led her child to winning? None, and it will stay that way.

The question isn't "which WTA mom has raised the most successful daughter?" :shrug:

swim4life227
Jun 12th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Well in order to have a GREAT IMPACT on your daughter's career wouldn't she had to of done something aside from winning a handful and a half of mini me tournies? Elena hasn't won a slam and I don't think her mom's nervous energy during tight matches has helped in any way.

Blu€
Jun 12th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Melanie :worship:, I miss her :sad:

JamieOwen3
Jun 12th, 2010, 07:41 PM
martina hingis's mom i think because venus and serena had richard so as much as a great woman oracene is i think richard is a little more of the influencial tennis wise.

as far as influencial in a bad way KOURNIKOVA'S mom Alla basicly was a big reason for anna's demise why would you take her from bollitieri's hard work,grafting and valuable coaching?

sweetpeas
Jun 12th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Re: Which WTA player's mum has had the greatest impact on their daughter's career?
Hard to say. Oracene should be declared a national treasure by Congress.


SO RIGHT!TWO champs..Single"s and doubles..Look at they're private life,not drugs,no violence .

Gdsimmons
Jun 12th, 2010, 09:48 PM
Her name is Oracene

meteor
Jun 12th, 2010, 09:54 PM
you're trying to make something out of nothing :lol:.

ptitnavet
Jun 12th, 2010, 10:25 PM
Mélanie Molitor no doubt. She made Martina what she is : a prodigy; she taught her how she used to play.

Sammy Stones
Jun 12th, 2010, 10:58 PM
it was YO MAMA

vera.

Uranium
Jun 12th, 2010, 11:05 PM
Oracene and Rausa.

tennisphilia
Jun 12th, 2010, 11:17 PM
Oracene - definitely.
She's responsible for 19 Grand Slam singles titles between the two sisters.

Vincey!
Jun 12th, 2010, 11:18 PM
Sharapova's mum....Truly I think she helped alot her daughter...surely made her much more stronger mentally and learnt her to not give up.

friendsita
Jun 12th, 2010, 11:28 PM
:worship:Oracene the Price is right:worship:
To have 1 legend for a child is a thing of beauty but to have 2 legends that are listed among the greatest of all time is unreal. Oracene has been great not only for her daughter's careers but also for fans who can appreciate a wonderful woman who is a down to earth mother who applauds her daughter's opponents shots. I really love how she does not look like she is about to pass out from worrying when she watches their matches. Oracene & Richard are a dynamic duo.:hearts:

WORD :worship:

Sammo
Jun 12th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Vera's mum is a bad influence?? I thought she was good!! Some explain to me plz

And for me... Melanie of course.

JamieOwen3
Jun 13th, 2010, 12:06 AM
kournikova could have been slam winner if it wasn't for her mother who liked the celerity side more and pushed anna that way.

KournikovaFan91
Jun 13th, 2010, 12:16 AM
I agree Alla was to blame for Anna's poor career.

She took her from Bolleteri before her game was fully developed. Her atrocious serve required a proper coach not Alla.

MH0861
Jun 13th, 2010, 12:20 AM
Ann Davenport. Because she stayed the eff out of things :worship:

Sammo
Jun 13th, 2010, 12:37 AM
Ann Davenport. Because she stayed the eff out of things :worship:

I love the color combination of both your avatar and signature, well done!