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Chorophyll
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:40 PM
And possibly be #16 for Wimbledon?

Lucas_Arg
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:41 PM
That would mean a fifty fifty chance of meeting a WS.

jimbo mack
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:41 PM
it worked for her in 2004

goldenlox
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:42 PM
She is trying to find the best string/racket combination.
She has to try hard to test it.

Have Maria Sharapova and Prince split up? I noticed she was using a blacked-out racquet with no “P” on the strings at the French Open.—Nancy
Sharp eye you’ve got there, Nancy. Sharapova was indeed yielding a logo-less stick with no stencil on the stringbed in Paris. But while they may not have Paris, both Prince and Sharapova say they’re still going steady. However, Sharapova is using some “experimental frames over the next few months in practice and actual competition,” according to an e-mail response from a Prince representative, adding that it “may actually include her testing frames and technologies that we currently do not carry in our line.” Her longtime racquet sponsor declined to elaborate on what frame(s) she used at the French Open and wouldn’t confirm that the racquet she used in Paris was even a Prince model: “Sorry, can’t comment on any products/technologies that Prince is having Maria test as part of our playtest program with her,” the rep wrote. But as you can tell from the photos at right, the frame doesn't look like the Prince EX03 Black that Sharapova launched for the company at this year’s Australian Open; it doesn’t have the sculpted grooves of Prince’s EXO3 Energy Channel technology on the sides of the head.

jamatthews
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:43 PM
Even if she's #16, they may bump Justine ahead of her.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:45 PM
She will most likely have to play them eventually :shrug:

roelc
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:45 PM
sharapova doesn't care about wimbledon seeding! all she wants is that 1 million $ extra if she wins bali MM championships! 1 more international win to go!

sharapova = new MM queen :worship:

Lucas_Arg
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:45 PM
They should change the seeds in order to no repeat the RG mess.

Nicolás89
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:50 PM
Even if she's #16, they may bump Justine ahead of her.

Huh?

RenaSlam.
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Even if she's #16, they may bump Justine ahead of her.

No way in hell.

Slutiana
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:52 PM
And possibly be #16 for Wimbledon?
Hm. While there is a 50% chance of meeting a WS, there is also a 50% chance of meeting Wozniacki or Jankovic. :happy: So it could be a blessing also.

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:52 PM
She will be top-16 seed anyway, Wimbledon officials wil do their job.
She should really try to complete MM Slam this year, imo. She's already won MM indoors and on clay. If she claims Birmingham title she will only have to show up at one of those weak ass hardcourt MM events in Asia.

madmax
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:54 PM
whatever new strings she's using, they are certainly helping her to improve her serving performances. As long as she finds the best combination which works for her game, it's all good

Chorophyll
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:57 PM
She will be top-16 seed anyway, Wimbledon officials wil do their job.
She should really try to complete MM Slam this year, imo. She's already won MM indoors and on clay. If she claims Birmingham title she will only have to show up at one of those weak ass hardcourt MM events in Asia.

Portoroz.

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Portoroz.

Yeah, I forgot about Portoroz, was talking about Istanbul, Osaka, Guangzhou. Masha seems to like touring Asia.

Chorophyll
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:01 PM
Yeah, I forgot about Portoroz, was talking about Istanbul, Osaka, Guangzhou. Masha seems to like touring Asia.

If she wins Birmingham wouldn't she be the tour title leader? :happy:

ys
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:01 PM
No way in hell.

Indeed. Bumping un-retiree over a former champion is next to impossible.

Slutiana
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:06 PM
Portoroz.
I remember back in 2007 the day when winning Portoroz was actually an achievement! :sad:

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:07 PM
If she wins Birmingham wouldn't she be the tour title leader? :happy:

She will hold kind of "surface slam" then: Tokyo on outdoor hardcourts, Memphis indoors, Strasbourg on clay and Birmingham on grass! :eek:

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:07 PM
If she wins Birmingham wouldn't she be the tour title leader? :happy:

Yep:lol:
I don't care if Sharapova faces WS you have to beat them to win Wimbledon and I'd rather that Sharapova face Serena in 4th round rather than in SF or F.

Aaric
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Of course ;)
I just hope she doesnt draw Gisela again :unsure:

madmax
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:12 PM
Of course ;)
I just hope she doesnt draw Gisela again :unsure:

naah...no hope for poor Gise this time arround:lol:

madmax
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:14 PM
She will hold kind of "surface slam" then: Tokyo on outdoor hardcourts, Memphis indoors, Strasbourg on clay and Birmingham on grass! :eek:

technically Tokyo was played indoors last year

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:15 PM
technically Tokyo was played indoors last year

It was raining last year?
Well, it means Masha just has to sign up for Portoroz now :lol:

Feyd
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:21 PM
If she wins Birmingham, she will have 3 MM titles, so she will be eligible for extra 1 million prize money for Bali YEC. So yes, that is in her best interest.

Marilyn Monheaux
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:24 PM
I think they will change her seeding regardless of her actual ranking.:shrug:

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:25 PM
I just checked last year's draw and Mauresmo seed17 met N1 seed Safina in the 4th round and she played the 15th seed in the 3rd round so yeah it's better for her to be ranked 16. She won't have a tough match in the 3rd round then in the fourth.

http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/wimbledon/2009/draw_gnd2.shtml

VeeJJ
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:26 PM
Hm. While there is a 50% chance of meeting a WS, there is also a 50% chance of meeting Wozniacki or Jankovic. :happy: So it could be a blessing also.

Jankovic beat her in Birmingham on grass in 2007 ;) Be careful what you wish for!

Break My Rapture
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:27 PM
They should change the seeds in order to no repeat the RG mess.
Agreed.
Hm. While there is a 50% chance of meeting a WS, there is also a 50% chance of meeting Wozniacki or Jankovic. :happy: So it could be a blessing also.
And this too. :haha:

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:39 PM
They should change the seeds in order to no repeat the RG mess.

Now that you said. If Sharapova is seeded 16 she could meet Henin in 3rd round again.:lol:

spencercarlos
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:04 PM
She will be top-16 seed anyway, Wimbledon officials wil do their job.
She should really try to complete MM Slam this year, imo. She's already won MM indoors and on clay. If she claims Birmingham title she will only have to show up at one of those weak ass hardcourt MM events in Asia.
:lol:@MM Slam... Epic :lol:

twight6
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:09 PM
I just checked last year's draw and Mauresmo seed17 met N1 seed Safina in the 4th round and she played the 15th seed in the 3rd round so yeah it's better for her to be ranked 16. She won't have a tough match in the 3rd round then in the fourth.

http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/wimbledon/2009/draw_gnd2.shtml

It's random and changes every year....

twight6
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:10 PM
Even if she's #16, they may bump Justine ahead of her.

Please tell me this is a joke.. :help:

Volcana
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:20 PM
Even if she's #16, they may bump Justine ahead of her.What conceivable reason could they have to do that? Bump a non-champ ahead of a former champ?

Volcana
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:27 PM
They should change the seeds in order to no repeat the RG mess.RG was a great tournament! That was an advertisement for leaving seedings alone! However, the two best grass court players are going to be seeded 1, 2. What changes need to be made? Who has a grass record so good in the last couple years (2008/9) so good that their seeding seems obviously disruptive?She will be top-16 seed anyway, Wimbledon officials wil do their job.2005-SF
2006-SF
2007-4r
2008-2r
2009-2r

If she earns the #16 seed, she'll get it. (Is Clijsters playing Wimbledon?) If she's earned #17, they aren't bumping her up after two years of second round losses.

Matt01
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:38 PM
I don't think it matters much what she does in Birmingham. She hasn't done much outside the MM tourneys this year and I think it will be no different at Wimbledon.


What conceivable reason could they have to do that? Bump a non-champ ahead of a former champ?


We had that discussion here few days ago and yes there were people who thought that Justine has a better grass cort record than Maria. :lick:

Mr.Sharapova
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:40 PM
I don't think it matters much what she does in Birmingham. She hasn't done much outside the MM tourneys this year and I think it will be no different at Wimbledon.





We had that discussion here few days ago and yes there were people who thought that Justine has a better grass cort record than Maria. :lick:


So glad to know that those people are a minority :lol::lol::lol:

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:40 PM
I don't think it matters much what she does in Birmingham. She hasn't done much outside the MM tourneys this year and I think it will be no different at Wimbledon.





We had that discussion here few days ago and yes there were people who thought that Justine has a better grass cort record than Maria. :lick:

Actually Dsanders had this discussion with himself:lol:

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:45 PM
I don't think it matters much what she does in Birmingham. She hasn't done much outside the MM tourneys this year and I think it will be no different at Wimbledon.

And you don't see that Maria's serve improved she playing well atm. Seriously how can you not see that don't even answer cause I know haters see only what they want to see.
Maria was pretty good at FO too bad she met Henin so early because again she was playing and serving pretty well.

twight6
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:48 PM
RG was a great tournament! That was an advertisement for leaving seedings alone! However, the two best grass court players are going to be seeded 1, 2. What changes need to be made? Who has a grass record so good in the last couple years (2008/9) so good that their seeding seems obviously disruptive?2005-SF
2006-SF
2007-4r
2008-2r
2009-2r

If she earns the #16 seed, she'll get it. (Is Clijsters playing Wimbledon?) If she's earned #17, they aren't bumping her up after two years of second round losses.

I'm actually agreeing with your post :help: :lol:

Yes, I believe Clijsters is playing Wimbledon.

The only person one could make an argument for would be Dementieva, who has 2 SF's in a row. She is 5th now so could end up playing Serena or Venus in the quarters. But, Jankovic (3r, 4r) and Wozniacki (4r, 3r) both have decent results and it wouldn't be justifiable to move either of them out of the top 4.

Matt01
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:58 PM
And you don't see that Maria's serve improved she playing well atm. Seriously how can you not see that don't even answer cause I know haters see only what they want to see.
Maria was pretty good at FO too bad she met Henin so early because again she was playing and serving pretty well.


I was only giving my opinion/prediction. She almost lost a set to Kristina Barrois in Strasburg one week before the French Open and isn't exactly beating the top players in Birmingham. I will change my opinion as soon as she reaches the 2nd week of a Slam which she hasn't done in a while.

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:08 PM
I was only giving my opinion/prediction. She almost lost a set to Kristina Barrois in Strasburg one week before the French Open and isn't exactly beating the top players in Birmingham. I will change my opinion as soon as she reaches the 2nd week of a Slam which she hasn't done in a while.

You should be more concerned about your fave atm.

Matt01
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:20 PM
You should be more concerned about your fave atm.


My fave beat your fave in the last Slam so no ;)

goldenlox
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:26 PM
With Serena and Venus 1,2, there is no reason to play games with seeds.
16 or 17, that is just a waste of time.
Especially because 3, 4 are not considered favorites. So 17 can easily wind up with a better draw than 16.

The Dawntreader
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:26 PM
I'm still not convinced Sharapova is at top 10 level yet.

For all her 'AMaZE' play against Henin, she still couldn't drive it home. Loads of random errors toward the end of that match, that PeakPova commiting would've seemed inconceivable.

Her serving has steadily improved from the horrow show at IW though.

madmax
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:36 PM
I'm still not convinced Sharapova is at top 10 level yet.

For all her 'AMaZE' play against Henin, she still couldn't drive it home. Loads of random errors toward the end of that match, that PeakPova commiting would've seemed inconceivable.

Her serving has steadily improved from the horrow show at IW though.

she would have won if not for the suspended play...she had all the momentum going and the conditions were favorable for her. Anyway, clay crap has ended and it's obvious her game is much better suited for grass

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:39 PM
My fave beat your fave in the last Slam so no ;)

But you just said Maria was a non entity at Majors these days how can this win make you feel better. I know this win didn't give Henin a lot of confidence because she lost in the next round.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:49 PM
she would have won if not for the suspended play...she had all the momentum going and the conditions were favorable for her. Anyway, clay crap has ended and it's obvious her game is much better suited for grass

And she didn't have momentum at the start of the third with 3 break points to go up a double break :tape:

Slutiana
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:10 PM
I'm still not convinced Sharapova is at top 10 level yet.

For all her 'AMaZE' play against Henin, she still couldn't drive it home. Loads of random errors toward the end of that match, that PeakPova commiting would've seemed inconceivable.

Her serving has steadily improved from the horrow show at IW though.
I agree fully. I did think she played great in the second and the start of the third, and she looked even more determined than usual. That said, it is all very reactionary to assume that her 'slump' is officially over and she will be back to the top 10/5 in no time. At the end of the day, no matter how proud she did herself, she went home with the loss.

debby
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:17 PM
justine is going to crush her 6-0 6-0 in 3R :drool:
Masha is going to pee on herself a la Riske :rolls: i am sure pova can't defeat her on grass :shrug: oh and I hope she will make a df on her own mp (if justine struggles to find her game) then she will lose after having a mp :howitwouldbeamazing:

Seriously, Idon't see why she should not win birmingham, it is a MM tournament, it won't be a big deal if she wins it or loses it :shrug: she will be a darkhorse at wimbly

Break My Rapture
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:19 PM
justine is going to crush her 6-0 6-0 in 3R :drool:
Masha is going to pee on herself a la Riske :rolls: i am sure pova can't defeat her on grass :shrug: oh and I hope she will make a df on her own mp (if justine struggles to find her game) then she will lose after having a mp :howitwouldbeamazing:

Seriously, Idon't see why she should not win birmingham, it is a MM tournament, it won't be a big deal if she wins it or loses it :shrug: she will be a darkhorse at wimbly
So will Henin. :shrug:

Inger67
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:20 PM
She is not going to throw a tournament just at the possibility of meeting other players at another tournament.

debby
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:21 PM
So will Henin. :shrug:

you know, she will never win wimbledon. :happy: only the most delusional jujufans still think she can win, they must be stupid to still believe :rolls: the WS are still around :help: and sharapova can beat her :help: heck even Bartoli beat her... she can't win Wimbledon, it's fate

edificio
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:25 PM
She will go for the win. I don't think it will harm her play at Wimbledon.

LightWarrior
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Of course it's in her interest. Especially when she has a shot at being seeded #16 right before the seeding cut.

ZODIAC
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:41 PM
maybe she is supestitious...come hail or thunder she always plays Birmingham.I still dont see her winning Wimbledon she will fall again in the 3rd or 4th rd..if she plays those tricky players that have all kinds of shots she will not see the second week.

Olórin
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:44 PM
you know, she will never win wimbledon. :happy: only the most delusional jujufans still think she can win, they must be stupid to still believe :rolls: the WS are still around :help: and sharapova can beat her :help: heck even Bartoli beat her... she can't win Wimbledon, it's fate

Tell 'em girl :yeah:

debby
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:47 PM
Tell 'em girl :yeah:

You know, sometimes I seem to be a deluded Justinetard but I swear, I really know she will never win Wimbledon :lol: But you know, my fellow Justinetards don't like me because according to them, I am giving up on Justine. :lol: Really, she has the game to win Wimbledon but not the mental spirit. Unlike Sharapova who is a true warrior. I hate to admit it.

Chorophyll
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:54 PM
My fave beat your fave in the last Slam so no ;)

MY GOODNESS. Got him together! :lol: That was good.

narutos
Jun 11th, 2010, 11:40 PM
MY GOODNESS. Got him together! :lol: That was good.

And who are you?:lol: that was indeed good but I don't know why a win over Sharapova on clay would be so good for him he stated himself that Sharapova can't pass the third round at any major.
Anyway back to the point Maria will probably lose at Wimbledon against a WS.

NadalSharapova
Jun 12th, 2010, 12:01 AM
justine is going to crush her 6-0 6-0 in 3R :drool:
Masha is going to pee on herself a la Riske :rolls: i am sure pova can't defeat her on grass :shrug: oh and I hope she will make a df on her own mp (if justine struggles to find her game) then she will lose after having a mp :howitwouldbeamazing:

Seriously, Idon't see why she should not win birmingham, it is a MM tournament, it won't be a big deal if she wins it or loses it :shrug: she will be a darkhorse at wimbly

wouldnt say she's a dark horse cos she's the 3rd favourite

Vee Williams
Jun 12th, 2010, 12:45 AM
Anything can happen at any given tournament. Just ask Francesca!

Maria surely has a shot at Wimbledon: her game is well suited to grass, her form has been improving... the one block that might not help is a player called Williams at the other side of the net. Especially if there is a V in front of Williams.

Volcana
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:38 AM
We had that discussion here few days ago and yes there were people who thought that Justine has a better grass cort record than Maria.Maybe Henin has a better grass record than Sharapova, maybe not. But records from three or more years ago don;t mean much. Sharapova HAS a record from 2008 and 2009. And I believe Roland Garros has already established that Henin isn't the player she was in 2004-2006.

Uranium
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:39 AM
Sharapova is going to lose to Riske tomorrow, just like she lost to Jamea Jackson in this same situation just 4 years ago...

Matt01
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:41 AM
Maybe Henin has a better grass record than Sharapova, maybe not. But records from three or more years ago don;t mean much. Sharapova HAS a record from 2008 and 2009. And I believe Roland Garros has already established that Henin isn't the player she was in 2004-2006.


If she isn't the player from 2004 and 2005 then this would be good for her Wimbledon seeding since Henin did not have stellar results there in those years.

A-Chak
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:41 AM
I dont see why its not in her Best interest :shrug:

Chorophyll
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:43 AM
Sharapova is going to lose to Riske tomorrow, just like she lost to Jamea Jackson in this same situation just 4 years ago...

Oh that year she made the SF of Wimbledon while the person in your avatar didn't make the 2nd week.

ZODIAC
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:50 AM
even if pova wins this tourney she will lose early at Wimbledon,her tennis Santa Larry Scott will not be there to negotiate easy draws for her.

Njay16
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:54 AM
Oh that year she made the SF of Wimbledon while the person in your avatar didn't make the 2nd week.

Yet she still has 5 Venus Rosewater Dishes to show for :dance:

Sharapowerr
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:23 AM
sharapova doesn't care about wimbledon seeding! all she wants is that 1 million $ extra if she wins bali MM championships! 1 more international win to go!

sharapova = new MM queen :worship:

No Clijsters is,she has 9 MM wins,so she is still the queen:)

Caralenko
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:26 AM
wouldnt say she's a dark horse cos she's the 3rd favourite

:spit: :spit: :spit:

Sharapowerr
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:26 AM
If she isn't the player from 2004 and 2005 then this would be good for her Wimbledon seeding since Henin did not have stellar results there in those years.

Sharapova s run a at the 2008 A0 was even better than 2004/2005 , Sharapova is better thanthe2009 Sharapova and allmost beat the 2010 Henin,on Henin s best surface..

Caralenko
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:28 AM
Sharapova s run a at the 2008 A0 was even better than 2004/2005 , Sharapova is better thanthe2009 Sharapova and allmost beat the 2010 Henin,on Henin s best surface..

To be fair, 2010 Henin actually lost (not almost) to Kanepi and Rezai on her former best surface. :lol:

narutos
Jun 12th, 2010, 09:14 AM
edit.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Obviously NOT.:lol:

goldenlox
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:08 PM
Birmingham came up much tougher than Memphis or Strasbourg. Maria didnt have to play a top 50 player at all, until this final.
So a win would have meant something here. Much more than the other 2 MMs that Maria played

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:10 PM
Birmingham came up much tougher than Memphis or Strasbourg. Maria didnt have to play a top 50 player at all, until this final.
So a win would have meant something here. Much more than the other 2 MMs that Maria played

wrong; she beat medina garrigues in strasbourg.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:11 PM
Birmingham came up much tougher than Memphis or Strasbourg. Maria didnt have to play a top 50 player at all, until this final.
So a win would have meant something here. Much more than the other 2 MMs that Maria played

Blabalbalablablabalbalbalablablablbalbalbal.

goldenlox
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:12 PM
Yes, a top 35 player. AMG is a decent win, but not comparable to Li

meteor
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:16 PM
Yes, a top 35 player. AMG is a decent win, but not comparable to Li

beating amg on clay is MORE than a decent win. also, she had to come from a set down to win it. at any rate, some masha haters are tossing around this top 40 thing like it really means something; it's just a coincidence.

after all, it's not maria's fault that riske beat wickmayer. that's just the way the dice roll sometimes.

goldenlox
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Of course it means something. Who are you playing is everything
The draw in Dubai is much different from Memphis
There are players with great records at 10k's who get win a match at a tier i.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Of course it means something. Who are you playing is everything
The draw in Dubai is much different from Memphis.

And what are you trying to say exactly?

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:27 PM
And what are you trying to say exactly?

She (is Goldenlox a girl right? :scratch: ) is trying to say that Maria would have struggled in bigger draws because she needs huge wins to get her confidence back but can't to have some.

goldenlox
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:29 PM
Its not just confidence. Her game has to improve.
She wasnt good against Kirilenko, wasnt good against Jie at IW. Wasnt good in this final.
These players make her have to play well to win.
She might be better off NOT having a Barrois or Arvidsson in this final.
She knows she has to improve over the next 10 days

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:42 PM
Actually, I think she plays not well enough because she is nervous and lacks confidence on her serve and groundstrokes ? :shrug: so if her confidence increases, then I am sure her game will improve.

goldenlox
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Maria has a lot of wins this year. That doesnt guarantee anything against better players.
The only way to gain confidence against Li is to outplay her. She came into this match with 4 wins this week.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Its not just confidence. Her game has to improve.
She wasnt good against Kirilenko, wasnt good against Jie at IW. Wasnt good in this final.
These players make her have to play well to win.
She might be better off NOT having a Barrois or Arvidsson in this final.
She knows she has to improve over the next 10 days

Of course she does, even though she is losing I still think she seems in better form than last year Wimbledon will be interesting she seemed a little off in this final but she will have a day off between matches at Wimbledon.
Anyway there is really of lot of good points in this tournament her serve hold up pretty well throughout the tournament she made a lot more aces than DF(34 VS 13). She hit her fastest serve ever and was constantly serving around 70% in first serve%. That's good.

Break My Rapture
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Goldenlox, why do you even have Sharapova in your signature? :yawn: You're clearly (acting like) a hater.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:48 PM
Maria has a lot of wins this year. That doesnt guarantee anything against better players.
The only way to gain confidence against Li is to outplay her. She came into this match with 4 wins this week.

Yes, but she needs a huge win. Which big champion did she defeat this year ?

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:49 PM
Goldenlox, why do you even have Sharapova in your signature? :yawn: You're clearly (acting like) a hater.

More like a stalker:lol:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:51 PM
Yes, but she needs a huge win. Which big champion did she defeat this year ?

Venus Williams in HK Exho this year (And we all know how seriously Venus takes the Pre-AO exhos)

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/84194415.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA5483D31ECCA82215760 B1080CB76144957D457E921411631DA8E30A760B0D811297

goldenlox
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:51 PM
Maria doesnt have many good wins this year. I dont know if playing Sydney would have helped her in Melbourne.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:52 PM
Yes, but she needs a huge win. Which big champion did she defeat this year ?

She only met Henin so far this year and she was very close on Henin's best surface.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:53 PM
She only met Henin so far this year and she was very close on Henin's best surface.

Former best surface, I would say. Because yeh , at least Maria fought hard till the end, but let's face it, Henin was horrible in second set and beginning of third set. She got lucky to defeat Maria.

Caralenko
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:56 PM
Goldenlox, why do you even have Sharapova in your signature? :yawn: You're clearly (acting like) a hater.

She likes anyone with a Russian flag :lol:

So why does she like Maria? :happy:

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:57 PM
Former best surface, I would say. Because yeh , at least Maria fought hard till the end, but let's face it, Henin was horrible in second set and beginning of third set. She got lucky to defeat Maria.

Former :lol: and I believe Maria served well in the second and was hitting really hard, mixing up her game Henin had no answers sometimes.

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:00 PM
Venus Williams in HK Exho this year (And we all know how seriously Venus takes the Pre-AO exhos)

Because Sharapova is. Come on she hit plenty of DF in this match and still won in straights:lol:

Craig.
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:01 PM
She likes anyone with a Russian flag :lol:

So why does she like Maria? :happy:

:bigcry:

Mrs. Dimitrova
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:12 PM
She likes anyone with a Russian flag :lol:

So why does she like Maria? :happy:

:hysteric: :sobbing:

Break My Rapture
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:13 PM
She likes anyone with a Russian flag :lol:

So why does she like Maria? :happy:
Because she actually keeps her original nationality unlike one of your faves.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:22 PM
Because she actually keeps her original nationality unlike one of your faves.

Shut up. :weirdo: She was joking.

Caralenko
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:25 PM
Because she actually keeps her original nationality unlike one of your faves.

Wow. Burnnnnnnnnn. :lol:

Anyway, it'll probably work out for the best that Maria didn't win Birmingham. She has a better chance to reach the 4R/QF now, atleast.

cecilija
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:27 PM
She only met Henin so far this year and she was very close on Henin's best surface.

She wasn't close at all.

Break My Rapture
Jun 13th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Shut up. :weirdo: She was joking.
:happy: No.

Matt01
Jun 13th, 2010, 04:53 PM
She only met Henin so far this year and she was very close on Henin's best surface.


How often do you want repeat that mantra of yours? You don't get extra money, extra ranking points or extra confidance for almost beating someone. Pova lost to Henin because Pova got outplayed. Next topic please.

snowfox
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:03 PM
masha's serve was poor today. too many df's and too many unforced errors cost her the match

narutos
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:09 PM
How often do you want repeat that mantra of yours? You don't get extra money, extra ranking points or extra confidance for almost beating someone. Pova lost to Henin because Pova got outplayed. Next topic please.

And where did I say that? I just said that the only champion Maria met this year was Henin and there is no shame losing against her at FO in three sets. Next Pova hater please.

NeoZod19
Jun 13th, 2010, 05:40 PM
it'd be good for her to confirm that she is really back but I guess that day has to be some other day. This should be a message for her coach to continue working even harder.

If she is not doing as well as expected it is because of her coach's fault.

VishaalMaria
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:20 PM
How often do you want repeat that mantra of yours? You don't get extra money, extra ranking points or extra confidance for almost beating someone. Pova lost to Henin because Pova got outplayed. Next topic please.

Actually, Henin won because Pova out-errored her. The only outplaying happened in the next round.

debby
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:30 PM
Actually, Henin won because Pova out-errored her. The only outplaying happened in the next round.

False.
Henin out-errored her in second set, then when she was down 2-0 0-40 , she started playing well again, she went to the net and hit some great volleys and served better.
She was not outplayed against Stosur in third set, she made some :tape: errors in last set. In second set, she got outplayed yeh.

Anyway I am off from this thread.

BluSthil
Jun 13th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Of course ! The higher ranking you are, the better the draw. That's one reason why you want to be #1. A player like Maria does not want to lose any match; not to mention losing a sponsor !!!

terjw
Jun 13th, 2010, 07:09 PM
This is the sort of thread that looks like was created to prepare an excuse in case she loses. There is no better tonic than winning. Winning a tournament against a top player puts you in a much better frame of mind than losing. It's all very well putting a brave face on it. But pretending that it's better that she lost today with that performance in the 2nd set is ridiculous.

BluSthil
Jun 13th, 2010, 07:28 PM
Well said terjw...