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Cinek
Jun 10th, 2010, 10:35 PM
:hearts:

Eastbourne + Wimbledon...

In Eastbourne #4 seed
In Wimbledon #9 seed in singles and ??# with Kirilenko in doubles

fouc
Jun 10th, 2010, 11:38 PM
Oh I though she's gonna be #8 :sad:

Sarin-A-Rad
Jun 11th, 2010, 12:08 AM
I love Aga on grass but hwy is she going to be #9 not #8?

saul1333
Jun 11th, 2010, 04:11 AM
2 Qf to defend :scared:

Good luck :)

olivero
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:15 AM
she'll be seeded #8 :shrug:

Agata.
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:16 AM
she'll be seeded #8 :shrug:

I think that in Wimbledon they have an opportunity to change seedings and I guess there is a big chance that they're gonna make eg. Henin a Top 8 seed :/

justine schnyder
Jun 11th, 2010, 10:19 AM
Good luck Aga.
Forget the clay season, and have a new start now.. Dawaj!!!

adner
Jun 11th, 2010, 03:35 PM
I think that in Wimbledon they have an opportunity to change seedings and I guess there is a big chance that they're gonna make eg. Henin a Top 8 seed :/
It wouldn't be fair to kick Aga out of Top 8 seeds. She has reached 2 consecutive QFs there. They could kick out Schiavone or Stosur instead ;)

RG can change their seeds as well. They didn't bump Henin in RG so I don't see why they should do so in Wimbledon.

Agata.
Jun 11th, 2010, 03:41 PM
It wouldn't be fair to kick Aga out of Top 8 seeds. She has reached 2 consecutive QFs there. They could kick out Schiavone or Stosur instead ;)

RG can change their seeds as well. They didn't bump Henin in RG so I don't see why they should do so in Wimbledon.

I know it wouldn't be fair, but Aga is not a former #1 or GS winner to be made a higher seed and they only change seedings for such players :/ For me Agnieszka should certainly be a Top8 seed :) but I'm not sure that Wimbledon organisers care about her seeding (because of the reasons I stated above).

I didn't know that RG can also change seedings, are you sure about that? (I won't argue as I'm not sure but I think I've never seen that happening in RG, in contrast to Wimbledon).

adner
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Yeah, all GS tournaments can adjust the seedings, but only Wimbledon uses this feature.

Chakvenus
Jun 11th, 2010, 11:33 PM
GL Aga!!
im feeling a second eastbourne trophy is soon to be in your possession.

justine schnyder
Jun 12th, 2010, 12:27 PM
Oh right I totally forgot Wimbledon changes the seedings! when does this come out then?

Agata.
Jun 12th, 2010, 12:56 PM
Agnieszka's draw in Eastbourne is :help:
Ofc out of all 5-8 seeds she must've gotten Clijsters, not to mention Azarenka in the 1st round.

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2010/710/MDS.pdf

Cinek
Jun 12th, 2010, 01:16 PM
OMG :lol:
I hope Aga will play doubles in Eastbourne :wavey:

olivero
Jun 12th, 2010, 02:27 PM
good luck to Agnieszka :unsure: she'll need it
ftw!

netimka
Jun 12th, 2010, 02:34 PM
Good luck Aga:kiss: we just have to take one match at time and hopefully she will win few at least :angel: and playing doubles wouldn't be a bad idea just wonder who could be her partner as Maria is not here... maybe Caro? they played once last year... they would have fun playing together for sure...

Sarin-A-Rad
Jun 12th, 2010, 04:00 PM
I can't believe Agas draw. Complete bullshit

saul1333
Jun 12th, 2010, 05:52 PM
What a draw :hearts: :rolleyes:

Dont expect much but GL :)

fede33
Jun 13th, 2010, 07:16 PM
I hope that Aga squashes Azarenka!!!

PD: I am new and want to support Aga because he is my player favorite:)

Cinek
Jun 13th, 2010, 07:21 PM
Hi ;)

Come on Aga!

fouc
Jun 13th, 2010, 07:21 PM
^^
Nice to have you here :wavey: Btw, it's SHE :secret:

gaja kesari
Jun 14th, 2010, 02:07 AM
Hi fede33, welcome :)

Agnieszka, best of luck against Vika, and in the whole tournament.

I so wish I could go to Eastbourne to see her... Too much work ATM :(

CoeXist
Jun 14th, 2010, 03:25 AM
Lol taking in account that easy draws she had during clay season didn't suit her game, im even more than pleased that she has now such a readiculously tough one. Go Aga, take a title! ;)

Agata.
Jun 14th, 2010, 08:25 AM
Hi fede33 :)

BTW, I hope that Agnieszka's match will be televised, but I wouldn't be so sure about it seeing that Clijsters and Wozniacki (not to mention Sveta or Fran) all play tommorrow.

fede33
Jun 14th, 2010, 09:09 AM
In hertogenbosh there is televisacion in the head office and in the court like that 1 that I suppose that eastbourne tendra also 2 fields televised in where in one of them tendra that Aga to play

Agata.
Jun 14th, 2010, 04:38 PM
Agnieszka's match won't be on TV, as I predicted- Clijsters, Wozniacki's match (+ 2 ATP matches, one with Kubot ;)) will be streamed instead) :sad:. She plays first match tommorow on Court 2 (11:30 AM local time).

olivero
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:22 PM
ftw Agnieszka :cheer:

Cinek
Jun 14th, 2010, 07:47 PM
9 games for Vika :lick:

rucolo
Jun 14th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Good luck on grass, Aga!:bounce:

Very tough draw.

But better here than at Wimbledon.:p

gaja kesari
Jun 14th, 2010, 10:14 PM
Agnieszka's match won't be on TV, as I predicted- Clijsters, Wozniacki's match (+ 2 ATP matches, one with Kubot ;)) will be streamed instead) :sad:. She plays first match tommorow on Court 2 (11:30 AM local time).

How annoying. I might just have to get on that train in the morning :devil:

Agnieszka, you better win girl :lol:

saul1333
Jun 14th, 2010, 10:41 PM
No fair :(

Good luck Aga..

fede33
Jun 15th, 2010, 11:01 AM
Good Aga serves 3-3 in the first set luck!!!!!!!!!!

fede33
Jun 15th, 2010, 11:03 AM
4-3 for Aga :)

fede33
Jun 15th, 2010, 11:25 AM
Aga gets lost a set point: (5-5

saul1333
Jun 15th, 2010, 11:38 AM
She loses first set 7-6(2)

Seems like she mailed in her service game after she had the sp but breaks at love to get to TB. Then mails in the TB :o

netimka
Jun 15th, 2010, 11:42 AM
oh Aga... win in 3 now please... c'omn!!!

fede33
Jun 15th, 2010, 11:46 AM
Aga breaks 6-7 1-0

saul1333
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:12 PM
She loses 7-6(2), 6-1 :tears:

Please have a good draw at Wimbly and try to defend QF there :scared:

http://s005.radikal.ru/i211/1006/24/c95a87189509.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

exceptionally bad on 2nd serve

Agata.
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:31 PM
She loses 7-6(2), 6-1 :tears:

Please have a good draw at Wimbly and try to defend QF there :scared:

I'd say please get your confidence back :hug: and start winning close matches

netimka
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:35 PM
i also think draws are not a problem at the moment... bad or good... she just need to believe in herself and just start winning... hope she is going to regroup quickly after this lost and play well at Wimbledon... :kiss:

saul1333
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:39 PM
I'd say please get your confidence back :hug: and start winning close matches

She does seem to be low on confidence :sobbing: I thought the nice grass would help..but Victoria isn't a bum so just a bad 1st round.

It's disheartening that in her last few losses she has been going away towards the end of the matches. :help:

fouc
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:39 PM
this girl needs a new coach. maybe just for consultation. but with her familial, provincial mentality she will never get one.

CoeXist
Jun 15th, 2010, 03:11 PM
this girl needs a new coach. maybe just for consultation. but with her familial, provincial mentality she will never get one.

nothing more to add..

Black Dog
Jun 15th, 2010, 06:19 PM
The funny thing is that the thread title turned out to be a big LOL... :lol: (let me just point out that beautiful alliteration in "t" that I made clearly on purpose :lol:)

I don't believe that the problem is directly related to the coach/ coaching methods... It's evident (at least I think so) that she and her father have divergent perspectives and approaches about those issues, but I don't know at what extent would she be willing to accept "tips" from a "stranger"... I would rather say she has problems dealing precisely with those divergent perspectives; it's not that she should try every single tip that comes from or father (or everyone else), but she always seems reluctant to admit her flaws and favours the "If you can do better, come to the court and prove it" type of speech rather than the "I should work out on this and that because it will help me improve" one. But who knows, I don't know her personally and I don't work with her every day. So, like I said a couple of times, she knows what she needs to do in order to fulfill her objectives; with or without help, she has to be the one turning the tides (if she wants to, of course) and we just have to keep waiting and "backing her up"! :)

Cinek
Jun 16th, 2010, 10:20 AM
Ladies' Doubles
http://aeltc2010.wimbledon.org/en_GB/pdf/2010_seeds.pdf
1 Serena WILLIAMS (USA) & Venus WILLIAMS (USA) [1]
2 Nuria LLAGOSTERA VIVES (ESP) & Maria Jose MARTINEZ SANCHEZ (ESP) [2]
3 Nadia PETROVA (RUS) & Samantha STOSUR (AUS) [3]
4 Gisela DULKO (ARG) & Flavia PENNETTA (ITA) [4]
5 Liezel HUBER (USA) & Bethanie MATTEK-SANDS (USA) [5]
6 Kveta PESCHKE (CZE) & Katarina SREBOTNIK (SLO) [6]
7 Lisa RAYMOND (USA) & Rennae STUBBS (AUS) [7]
8 Alisa KLEYBANOVA (RUS) & Francesca SCHIAVONE (ITA) [8]
9 Yung-Jan CHAN (TPE) & Jie ZHENG (CHN) [9]
10 Maria KIRILENKO (RUS) & Agnieszka RADWANSKA (POL) [10]
11 Cara BLACK (ZIM) & Daniela HANTUCHOVA (SVK) [11]
12 Iveta BENESOVA (CZE) & Barbora ZAHLAVOVA STRYCOVA (CZE) [12]
13 Vera DUSHEVINA (RUS) & Ekaterina MAKAROVA (RUS) [13]
14 Monica NICULESCU (ROU) & Shahar PEER (ISR) [14]
15 Alicja ROSOLSKA (POL) & Zi YAN (CHN) [15]
16 Su-Wei HSIEH (TPE) & Alla KUDRYAVTSEVA (RUS) [16]


Radlenko with #10 :hearts:
I hope they get QF :bounce: or SF (if don't play William's in QF)



----------


Wimbledon 2010 Seeds
1 Serena WILLIAMS (USA) [1]
2 Venus WILLIAMS (USA) [2]
3 Caroline WOZNIACKI (DEN) [3]
4 Jelena JANKOVIC (SRB) [4]
5 Francesca SCHIAVONE (ITA) [5]
6 Samantha STOSUR (AUS) [6]
7 Agnieszka RADWANSKA (POL) [7]
8 Kim CLIJSTERS (BEL) [8]
9 Na LI (CHN) [9]
10 Flavia PENNETTA (ITA) [10]
11 Marion BARTOLI (FRA) [11]
12 Nadia PETROVA (RUS) [12]
13 Shahar PEER (ISR) [13]
14 Victoria AZARENKA (BLR) [14]
15 Yanina WICKMAYER (BEL) [15]
16 Maria SHARAPOVA (RUS) [16]
17 Justine HENIN (BEL) [17]
18 Aravane REZAI (FRA) [18]
19 Svetlana KUZNETSOVA (RUS) [19]
20 Dinara SAFINA (RUS) [20]
21 Vera ZVONAREVA (RUS) [21]
22 Maria Jose MARTINEZ SANCHEZ (ESP) [22]
23 Jie ZHENG (CHN) [23]
24 Daniela HANTUCHOVA (SVK) [24]
25 Lucie SAFAROVA (CZE) [25]
26 Alisa KLEYBANOVA (RUS) [26]
27 Maria KIRILENKO (RUS) [27]
28 Alona BONDARENKO (UKR) [28]
29 Anastasia PAVLYUCHENKOVA (RUS) [29]
30 Yaroslava SHVEDOVA (KAZ) [30]
31 Alexandra DULGHERU (ROU) [31]
32 Sara ERRANI (ITA) [32]

saul1333
Jun 16th, 2010, 11:51 AM
Hope she can live up to her seed. Go Aga :sobbing:

CoeXist
Jun 16th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Hope she can live up to her seed. Go Aga :sobbing:

Mission Imppossible.. Rnd 3 is all she is capable of atm.

Malva
Jun 17th, 2010, 03:01 AM
I don't believe that the problem is directly related to the coach/ coaching methods... It's evident (at least I think so) that she and her father have divergent perspectives and approaches about those issues, but I don't know at what extent would she be willing to accept "tips" from a "stranger"... I would rather say she has problems dealing precisely with those divergent perspectives; it's not that she should try every single tip that comes from or father (or everyone else), but she always seems reluctant to admit her flaws and favours the "If you can do better, come to the court and prove it" type of speech rather than the "I should work out on this and that because it will help me improve" one. But who knows, I don't know her personally and I don't work with her every day. So, like I said a couple of times, she knows what she needs to do in order to fulfill her objectives; with or without help, she has to be the one turning the tides (if she wants to, of course) and we just have to keep waiting and "backing her up"! :)

A very good post. She knows what she needs to do. The problem is: is she willing to do what she needs to do?

She always had been very stubborn and stable. This has a postive and a negative side.

Low on confidence? -- I strongly doubt it. Her ripostes after her losses point to the exact opposite.

Low on motivation? Quite likely. I haven't seen any desire from her to make the next step in order to advance in the rankings and further develop her career. Occupying the #8-12 spot seems to be all that she wants at the moment.

CoeXist
Jun 17th, 2010, 07:04 AM
A very good post. She knows what she needs to do. The problem is: is she willing to do what she needs to do?

She always had been very stubborn and stable. This has a postive and a negative side.

Low on confidence? -- I strongly doubt it. Her ripostes after her losses point to the exact opposite.

Low on motivation? Quite likely. I haven't seen any desire from her to make the next step in order to advance in the rankings and further develop her career. Occupying the #8-12 spot seems to be all that she wants at the moment.

Lol with the game she has atm i would be really surprised if she would manage to stay in Top15 by the end of the year.. And of course i know she is capable of big results, but in fact there is something with her head going wrong :D

rucolo
Jun 17th, 2010, 05:14 PM
Aga :sad::shrug:


Very tough draw.

But better here than at Wimbledon.:p

Like I said Azarenka in R1 was a very tough draw.:(

At least Aga lost to her, and not to some idiot.

Btw Azarenka is now into SF after beating Clijsters!

Cinek
Jun 17th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Aga draw in few previous tournament :tape::help:

justine schnyder
Jun 18th, 2010, 10:09 AM
Williams S. vs Larcher de Brito
Chakvetadze vs Petkovic
Tanasugarn vs MOrita
Cibulkova vs Safarova

Hantuchova vs King
Zahlavova Strycova vs Vesnina
Olaru vs Cornet
Bondarenko K. vs Sharapova

Na Li vs Scheepers
Duque Marino vs Nara
Keothavong vs Rodionova
Amanmuradova vs Kuznetsova

Errani vs Coin
Parra Santonja vs Govortsova
Brianti vs Craybas
Czink vs Radwanska A.

Hummm.. what's your thoughts?

Good luck Aga...Make us happy for a change!!!

fouc
Jun 18th, 2010, 10:29 AM
Well, it seems like it couldn't be better till QF, and then there's Serena... I mean first 3 rounds are like a blessing, there are SO MANY looming, dangerous unseeded players and Aga gets nobody. And Sara Errani, undoubtedly the worst seed on grass, in 3rd. Na Li or Sveta in round 4 - Na can be very dangerous but Aga beat both on grass before. Sharapova would be a better option for QF... But we all know that she is totally capable of losing 6-2 5-7 0-6 to Czink as well.

CoeXist
Jun 18th, 2010, 11:11 AM
Well, it seems like it couldn't be better till QF, and then there's Serena... I mean first 3 rounds are like a blessing, there are SO MANY looming, dangerous unseeded players and Aga gets nobody. And Sara Errani, undoubtedly the worst seed on grass, in 3rd. Na Li or Sveta in round 4 - Na can be very dangerous but Aga beat both on grass before. Sharapova would be a better option for QF... But we all know that she is totally capable of losing 6-2 5-7 0-6 to Czink as well.

Ha ha so so true! :D fortunately with her skills & talent she's capable of winning wimby as well, but not in this year. :/

TeamUla
Jun 18th, 2010, 11:55 AM
First Melinda Czink, who's in the most crappy form ever - even Zi Yan defeated her this year. If Aga loses to her it'll be a HUGE shock.:rolleyes:

saul1333
Jun 18th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Looks ok. She always gets a WS in the qf but I'll complain about it if she gets there..

spriwi
Jun 18th, 2010, 01:19 PM
perfect draw to defend her QF points

Sarin-A-Rad
Jun 18th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Cmon Aga! :)

saul1333
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Bottom half of doubles :)

Peschke/Srebotnik vs. Craybas/Erakovic
Dzehalevich/Poutchek vs. Ruano Pascual/Shaughnessy
Grandin/Spears vs. Errani/Vinci
Arvidsson/Kerber vs. Kirilenko/Radwanska

Niculescu/Peer vs. Bondarenko/Bondarenko
King/Shvedova vs. Brianti/Dulgheru
Kuznetsova/Rezai vs. Dekmeijere/Kvitova
Oudin/Zalameda vs. Petrova/Stosur

Raymond/Stubbs vs. Hercog/Martic
Rae/Watson vs. Dellacqua/Molik
Mirza/Wozniacki vs. Keothavong/South
Kondratieva/Uhlirova vs. Black/Hantuchova

Hsieh/Kudryavtseva vs. Krajicek/Schnyder
Peers/Robson vs. Kanepi/Zhang
Safarova/Wozniak vs. Chuang/Govortsova
Borwell/Kops-Jones vs. Llagostera Vives/Martinez Sanchez

Cinek
Jun 18th, 2010, 07:15 PM
Good singles draw to take 4r or (if Aga play good) QF.
In doubles, Radlenko must win 2 matches and next Peschbotnik :help: , but fight! It is not Williams sisters!

Chakvenus
Jun 18th, 2010, 08:55 PM
GL Aga - a great draw in the early stages.
defending her QF points is really not out of the question.

TeamUla
Jun 19th, 2010, 06:22 PM
Father Radwanski told in the interview that the problems of Agnieszka's are because of Ula's injury and Agnieszka didn't have a hitting partner for trainings.

fouc
Jun 19th, 2010, 06:44 PM
^^
and of course they can't hire someone whose last name isn't Radwanski/-a

TeamUla
Jun 19th, 2010, 10:40 PM
As far as I remember she trained with Korzeniak and Sakowicz-Kostecka but it seems they are not good enough :lol:

fede33
Jun 20th, 2010, 12:36 AM
Cmon Aga!!!!!!!!!!!! Your prune to come to QF, it is necessary to trust in her ;)

CoeXist
Jun 20th, 2010, 11:52 AM
Father Radwanski told in the interview that the problems of Agnieszka's are because of Ula's injury and Agnieszka didn't have a hitting partner for trainings.

haha yeah and what's the problem to hire a good male tennis-player nowadays? :/ It seems that he is even more stupid that I supposed him to be..

fede33
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:39 PM
I hope that it plays in a televised court !!

Sarin-A-Rad
Jun 21st, 2010, 04:18 PM
They should definitely place Aga on Court 1 since Davydenko is on there and he is the mens 7th seed.

olivero
Jun 21st, 2010, 05:28 PM
They should definitely place Aga on Court 1 since Davydenko is on there and he is the mens 7th seed.

I'm afraid it doesn't work that way ;) I just hope they'll put her on a show court. Unlike Roland Garros...

saul1333
Jun 21st, 2010, 05:32 PM
First on court 5..at least it's televised :) Fingers and toes crossed :scared:

http://i073.radikal.ru/1006/3e/6bce2d6b823c.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

fede33
Jun 21st, 2010, 05:52 PM
If !!!!!!!!!!! That luck that this Aga in a televised court :) I hope that there does a happiness a good party and us of to his fans

justine schnyder
Jun 21st, 2010, 07:27 PM
won't be around to follow, good luck ;)

Cinek
Jun 21st, 2010, 07:35 PM
Dawaj Aga! :scared:

Grass :hearts:

fouc
Jun 21st, 2010, 09:30 PM
I'm afraid it doesn't work that way ;) I just hope they'll put her on a show court. Unlike Roland Garros...

I loooove that Caribou album! :hearts:

And yeah, go Aga!

rucolo
Jun 21st, 2010, 09:52 PM
Aga`s draw for the first few rounds is not bad.
But let`s take it match by match.:p
We all should have learned this by now from the recent tournaments.

Good luck in Wimbledon, Aga!:kiss:

gaja kesari
Jun 21st, 2010, 10:27 PM
Yipee! Wimbledon at last.

Good draw for Agnieszka, hopefully it'll take some of the pressure off her.

I have finally finished my work marathon and can give you a little update on her Eastbourne match against Victoria Azarenka, if anyone's still interested :)

The first set was very competitive. Although it's funny how differently they both behave on court - Aga's calm and quiet, keeping to herself and her usual routine, Victoria - sorting the place out straight away. She demanded that a photographer with a particularly large lens on his camera is taken away from the courtside ('he's poking at me' :lol:), then asked for an umbrella - the ballboys and girls took turns holding it over her, standing exactly where they were told to stand :) She behaved like she owned the court, and unfortunately for Agnieszka, in the second set she really did own it. Incidentally, I think her shrills also serve the purpose of owning the place (I don't want to be unkind, but she does rather sound like an excited turkey at times, I hope she is not reading this!)

But going back to the first set - there were breaks of serve aplenty, but throughout the set it felt like Aga is on top and will prevail at the end - for example, when she lost her last service game, she proceeded to break Azarenka to love, quite empathically, to get to the tiebreak. There were some very good exchanges and a few long rallies, with the ball traveling really low over the net and people gasping with disbelief. There was some ball-bashing, but Aga certainly wasn't swept off the court, as some had suggested. She lost because of silly errors, or to be more precise, because of her inability to shake them off and move on to the next point. Instead she looked more and more dejected, like she was losing her will to live, not just to win the match. A classic perfectionist I'm afraid. I think she would benefit from the advice of Peer's coach, who famously reminded Shahar during one of her matches that she was playing tennis, not building a house :cool:

The tiebreak was where the result was settled. Frankly, I fully expected Agnieszka to win it after she'd broken her opponent to love, but Vika regrouped and started dictating the game. And with a couple of errors the tiebreak slipped away... Agnieszka was cross, she was lucky not to get a warning for hitting the top of the net with her racket. I was hoping that she would channel her anger into winning the second set of course, but it was not to happen. After breaking Vika in the opening game, the tide turned again, and Agnieszka could not cope with it any more. Victoria on the other hand was very purposeful. I admired her patience, can't tell you how many times she tossed the ball up in the air and had to catch it again, unable to serve because of sudden gusts of wind. It did not phase her. The wind picked up quite a lot in the second set, making it more of a lottery, with a slight bias towards the harder-hitting player. Agnieszka's attempts at drop shots should perhaps not be mentioned here at all (sorry Aga!). It certainly was not her day, gloom and dejection visible in her slumped shoulders at the end of the match. I felt so sorry for her - where is our Aga who could turn matches around from a brink of defeat, I ask you?

This was the third match of Agnieszka's which I watched live, and the first one which she lost. :hug:

Good luck in Wimbledon, and please don't worry about making mistakes :kiss:

fouc
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:30 AM
^^
thanks for the missing report. great read :)

olivero
Jun 22nd, 2010, 08:24 AM
I loooove that Caribou album! :hearts:

And yeah, go Aga!

Yeah, me too! specially after seeing him live ;)

thanks for the report gaja_kesari. Let's hope Aga finds her top game at Wimbledon. The draw is very good for her to get some confidence and match practice before facing top seeds.

good luck against Czink today

saul1333
Jun 22nd, 2010, 11:05 AM
Awesome report :yeah: amazing that you remember all that..

saul1333
Jun 22nd, 2010, 11:40 AM
Aga wins first set 6-3..serve looks good :D

9 winner
1 ue

AndreConrad
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:04 PM
6:3 *3:2 for Agnieszka :yeah:... keep on going and stay focused please!

saul1333
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:25 PM
6-3, 6-3 :bounce: She looked good because Melinda was playing well to start the match but she stayed calm. I dont think there was a bad drop shot. 2 winners and 1 that led to an easy fh volley :D

http://s50.radikal.ru/i127/1006/60/aef7ce65fef8.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

AndreConrad
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:25 PM
Agnieszka won 6:3 6:3, congrats :yeah:. Please don't stop here.

Agata.
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:29 PM
Aga :yeah:
Good play, nice serving (Aga can serve&volley :)), maybe her approach shots could've been better (not in the middle of the court), but overall a good performance

Melinda is a player that Agnieszka likes to play against I guess - she hits a lot of winners but even more UEs

18 winners and only 4 unforced errors from Agnieszka :)

Cinek
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:30 PM
Aga :hearts:

Agata.
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:37 PM
Thanks gaja kesari for the report :)

About the mistakes- Aga unfortunately lost many matches because she wasn't able to move on after an easy mistake (for example against Cirstea in LA and Kirilenko in US Open). I guess it's hard to change it as it's the matter of her character :shrug:

saul1333
Jun 22nd, 2010, 02:35 PM
Next round is against Brianti..

justine schnyder
Jun 22nd, 2010, 05:08 PM
Thanks for the report Gaja! :D

Nice win Aga.. Keep it up! :)

Pszczelny
Jun 22nd, 2010, 07:41 PM
Nice to see Aga winning again :)

rucolo
Jun 23rd, 2010, 02:52 PM
Nice start, Aga!:cheer:

Keep going!;)

Yipee! Wimbledon at last.

Good draw for Agnieszka, hopefully it'll take some of the pressure off her.

I have finally finished my work marathon and can give you a little update on her Eastbourne match against Victoria Azarenka, if anyone's still interested :)

The first set was very competitive. Although it's funny how differently they both behave on court - Aga's calm and quiet, keeping to herself and her usual routine, Victoria - sorting the place out straight away. She demanded that a photographer with a particularly large lens on his camera is taken away from the courtside ('he's poking at me' :lol:), then asked for an umbrella - the ballboys and girls took turns holding it over her, standing exactly where they were told to stand :) She behaved like she owned the court, and unfortunately for Agnieszka, in the second set she really did own it. Incidentally, I think her shrills also serve the purpose of owning the place (I don't want to be unkind, but she does rather sound like an excited turkey at times, I hope she is not reading this!)

But going back to the first set - there were breaks of serve aplenty, but throughout the set it felt like Aga is on top and will prevail at the end - for example, when she lost her last service game, she proceeded to break Azarenka to love, quite empathically, to get to the tiebreak. There were some very good exchanges and a few long rallies, with the ball traveling really low over the net and people gasping with disbelief. There was some ball-bashing, but Aga certainly wasn't swept off the court, as some had suggested. She lost because of silly errors, or to be more precise, because of her inability to shake them off and move on to the next point. Instead she looked more and more dejected, like she was losing her will to live, not just to win the match. A classic perfectionist I'm afraid. I think she would benefit from the advice of Peer's coach, who famously reminded Shahar during one of her matches that she was playing tennis, not building a house :cool:

The tiebreak was where the result was settled. Frankly, I fully expected Agnieszka to win it after she'd broken her opponent to love, but Vika regrouped and started dictating the game. And with a couple of errors the tiebreak slipped away... Agnieszka was cross, she was lucky not to get a warning for hitting the top of the net with her racket. I was hoping that she would channel her anger into winning the second set of course, but it was not to happen. After breaking Vika in the opening game, the tide turned again, and Agnieszka could not cope with it any more. Victoria on the other hand was very purposeful. I admired her patience, can't tell you how many times she tossed the ball up in the air and had to catch it again, unable to serve because of sudden gusts of wind. It did not phase her. The wind picked up quite a lot in the second set, making it more of a lottery, with a slight bias towards the harder-hitting player. Agnieszka's attempts at drop shots should perhaps not be mentioned here at all (sorry Aga!). It certainly was not her day, gloom and dejection visible in her slumped shoulders at the end of the match. I felt so sorry for her - where is our Aga who could turn matches around from a brink of defeat, I ask you?

This was the third match of Agnieszka's which I watched live, and the first one which she lost. :hug:

Good luck in Wimbledon, and please don't worry about making mistakes :kiss:

Thanx for the report.:)

saul1333
Jun 23rd, 2010, 06:19 PM
Another first start..go Aga!!

http://s004.radikal.ru/i207/1006/cc/3b71a9a2f526.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

gaja kesari
Jun 23rd, 2010, 08:58 PM
Best of luck tomorrow Agnieszka!

I cannot go... got work again :(

olivero
Jun 23rd, 2010, 09:34 PM
Aga is also scheduled for doubles tommorow
third match on court 15

Cinek
Jun 23rd, 2010, 11:40 PM
Come on Agnieszka!

spriwi
Jun 24th, 2010, 11:21 AM
streams?

saul1333
Jun 24th, 2010, 11:28 AM
http://www.livescorehunter.com/index.php?option=com_lsh&view=lsh&event_id=19783&tv_id=429&tid=1168&channel=0&tmpl=component&layout=popup&Itemid=190

:)

spriwi
Jun 24th, 2010, 11:42 AM
thanks!

saul1333
Jun 24th, 2010, 11:53 AM
Wins first set :D

http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/1006/55/9b7dac01e0a8.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

saul1333
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:26 PM
easy win despite facing all the bp. I think she did 8 drop shots..3 of them bad :lol:

http://s57.radikal.ru/i158/1006/c2/aecf1ecf9eb9.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Agata.
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:29 PM
Aga :yeah:
Many errors in this match, still- I liked the way Agnieszka was playing, that she wasn't afraid of serve&volleying and coming to the net, even if her net play wasn't always successful I guess it was a good practice. Alberta was actually playing quite good in the 1st set, but Agnieszka managed to win almost of all of the important points.

fede33
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:34 PM
Congratulations Aga for the victory:) she juice very well and this waits now For Errani or Parra Santonja.

spriwi
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:36 PM
well done! i don't really like her approach shots, but overall she moves the ball around the court really well.

Daruma.
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:37 PM
She was a bit shaky in the first set but managed to play at the level she belongs to. She is still the bagel queen. :worship:

Next round is winnable. Actually it is a must for Agnieszka. But she surely needs to play better, a little more aggresive, in order to go far in the event. :drool:

Cinek
Jun 24th, 2010, 12:41 PM
She won 2 matches in a row :hearts:

Go Radlenko in doubles!

fede33
Jun 24th, 2010, 01:46 PM
She won 2 matches in a row :hearts:

Go Radlenko in doubles!
If, I win both without losing his service :worship:

Cinek
Jun 24th, 2010, 01:48 PM
Yeah, she served very well in this 2 matches.

rucolo
Jun 24th, 2010, 02:28 PM
Well done, Aga!:):angel:

Aga always plays her best tennis on grass.:hearts:

Keep it up!;)

Could not find any comments/interviews from Aga...

olivero
Jun 24th, 2010, 02:30 PM
She won 2 matches in a row :hearts:


first time since...Miami :tape:

I hope she'll face Sara next.

Cinek
Jun 24th, 2010, 04:40 PM
Now Errani :help:

Radlenko 6-4 1-1

saul1333
Jun 24th, 2010, 05:31 PM
Radlenko beat Kerber/Arvidsson 6-4, 7-5

Broke them 4 straight times..but they were also broken 3 in a row near the end :lol:

Cinek
Jun 24th, 2010, 05:35 PM
Radlenko :hearts:


in singles Aga vs. Errani
in doubles Aga vs. Errani/Vinci

justine schnyder
Jun 24th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Nice wins today from Aga :)
Keep going! :bounce:

justine schnyder
Jun 24th, 2010, 07:54 PM
Nice wins today from Aga :)
Keep going! :bounce:

spriwi
Jun 24th, 2010, 09:28 PM
3rd round should be a formality against this ultra pusher errani. doubles winnable as well.

AndreConrad
Jun 24th, 2010, 11:30 PM
Congrats Agnieszka :yeah:; please keep going!
3rd round should be a formality against this ultra pusher errani. doubles winnable as well.
I would not be so certain in Agnieszka's current form. Unless she will break away from her current state of mind no win is certain. It is not because she is not capable, but because suddenly doubts will cloud her mind and one of her biggest weapons - intuition will be gone. I hope she will get over this quickly, maybe a good time is now. From capabilities perspective I believe she has a decent shot at anyone; even against players she never defeated. Going back what I said earlier also everyone has shot at defeating her.

Aryman3
Jun 25th, 2010, 03:57 AM
Opinion of a British expert
Agnieszka Radwanska is quietly an incredibly solid grass courter. No. 7 Agnieszka Radwanska is about as anonymous as any reasonably attractive longtime Top Ten WTAer could be. Her lack of name recognition and unflashy style of play keeps her largely relegated from the biggest courts, and she hasn't won all that many huge titles. But her consistency, especially at Wimbledon over the years, is extremely commendable. Radwanska just about always beats the players she's supposed to beat, which is much more than can be said for most on the WTA. Her first two matches at Wimbledon, a 6-3, 6-3 win over Melinda Czink and a 6-2, 6-0 trouncing of Alberta Brianti, are perfect examples of this.

saul1333
Jun 25th, 2010, 04:14 PM
Radlenko got smoked by Errani/Vinci 6-4, 6-1 :(

First set could have been 6-2 but they saved some sp's

saul1333
Jun 25th, 2010, 05:43 PM
Another first on. GL Aga :)

http://s46.radikal.ru/i114/1006/d7/d4c55d93c6c0.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Cinek
Jun 25th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Radlenko :wavey:
First bad tournament for Radlenko :sad:
Maybe Kiri doesn't like grass ? :p


Come on Aga in singles! :hearts:

justine schnyder
Jun 25th, 2010, 06:50 PM
Omg I think I'll be home!!!@#$ :eek:
Just don't let me down Aga ;)
Good luck!!!

TeamUla
Jun 25th, 2010, 06:58 PM
Aga told not to worry because Kirilenko played as if she was in plane in her mind and she doesn't like grass so much.
And she said also that it was Vinci who was the better player so she's not that afraid of Errani. She will try to force her to get out of the baseline.

Pszczelny
Jun 26th, 2010, 06:21 AM
2 wins in a row :eek: :bowdown:

make it 3 ;)

Pszczelny
Jun 26th, 2010, 06:22 AM
Radlenko got smoked by Errani/Vinci 6-4, 6-1 :(

First set could have been 6-2 but they saved some sp's

That's a surprising score, but all we need now or all Aga needs now is a good singles result, so doubles loss in no problem.

Pszczelny
Jun 26th, 2010, 06:24 AM
And she said also that it was Vinci who was the better player so she's not that afraid of Errani. She will try to force her to get out of the baseline.

Normally it wouldn't be any good sign that Agnieszka is underrating her rival, but now it's better than fear.

fouc
Jun 26th, 2010, 11:03 AM
wtf? no wimbledon at all today on polsat sport?

saul1333
Jun 26th, 2010, 11:04 AM
Ula there :hearts:

olivero
Jun 26th, 2010, 11:27 AM
OMG Polsat Sport is replaying a volleyball match! no tennis on Polsat Sport Extra...WTF?! :o

fouc
Jun 26th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Aga said 'c'mon' :sobbing:

saul1333
Jun 26th, 2010, 12:13 PM
Aga wins first set..long though

http://s51.radikal.ru/i133/1006/c4/c41b30fad478.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

saul1333
Jun 26th, 2010, 12:59 PM
6-3, 6-1 Easy score but a lot of long games. She played very good :inlove:

http://s48.radikal.ru/i120/1006/6c/9285abf2ae00.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

spriwi
Jun 26th, 2010, 01:04 PM
still not broken in the entire tournament :eek:

fede33
Jun 26th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Well!! Aga in 4 ş round and playing now well surely against Li, I hope that Aga conquers it as last year:)

Cinek
Jun 26th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Isia play so good :hearts:
dropshots, volleys, lobs, 36 winners, 2 aces :hearts:

saul1333
Jun 26th, 2010, 10:27 PM
All first on's so far..scary court 18..GL Aga :)

http://s39.radikal.ru/i083/1006/89/38130b2e9fd7.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Cinek
Jun 27th, 2010, 12:06 AM
Go Aga :scared:

Proszę wygraj jeszcze tylko ten mecz.

fede33
Jun 27th, 2010, 12:41 AM
Aga luck !!!! you can do it, insurance will be a great match.:rocker::rocker:

Aryman3
Jun 27th, 2010, 05:47 AM
Press conference after Errani
Q. Let me ask you just a couple quick questions about sort of the state of Polish tennis. It seems at the moment that Polish tennis is quite strong. You're seeing more people that are in this year this have gone through further. How would you characterize what's happening in Polish tennis? And do you feel a bit of pressure because you're the last person in terms of singles from Poland that's still in the Championship?

AGNIESZKA RADWANSKA: Well, yeah, for sure, now there's a little bit more players than like two years ago. We can see girls and guys playing in the main draw, so it's great. Not only one, like was before, so it's great.

But, um, well, I'm just not thinking about the pressure. I'm just doing what I have to do, you know. Of course I would like to also do at least fourth round, which is like second week. So, yeah.

Q. And last question: Tell me first of all in terms of why do you think Polish tennis is becoming stronger? Is there more money? Better facilities? More sort of interest in it? And also, would you say that there's sort of more support? No? Everybody is sort of shaking their head.

AGNIESZKA RADWANSKA: No facilities, no money, no nothing. So, no. Can you imagine that like even in Krakow there's no hardcourts. So I don't even have hardly in my city, which is big city. So no, we don't.

Pszczelny
Jun 27th, 2010, 06:41 AM
I saw no fear in Aga's play and so many games were close. Even when she lost 2 SPs at 5-2, in next game she served it out so easily. Her game is great, when she feels confident. Playing like that, next round should be no stop for Aga.

Malva
Jun 27th, 2010, 09:50 AM
I saw no fear in Aga's play and so many games were close. Even when she lost 2 SPs at 5-2, in next game she served it out so easily. Her game is great, when she feels confident. Playing like that, next round should be no stop for Aga.

'Confident' are usually the ones who overestimate their capability and as a result they often lose. I always fear when Isia becomes 'confident' in a match -- she often gets herself into a trouble. So, I would rather say that in all her best performances we see her: determined, composed, focused.

olivero
Jun 27th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Aga and Na will play on exactly the same court they did last year :lol:

fede33
Jun 27th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Better efficiency to games gained and lost after the first week of competition in the All England Tennis Club :

1. Serena Williams (USA), 37/10 = 78,72%
2. Agnieszka Radwanska (POL), 36/12 = 75,00% (a 3.72)
3. Maria Sharapova (RUS), 37/14 = 72,55% (a 6.17)
4. Kim Clijsters (BEL), 36/14 = 72,00% (a 6.72)
5. Venus Williams (USA), 36/15 = 70,59% (a 8.13)
6. Vera Zvonareva (RUS), 36/16 = 69,23% (a 9.49)
7. Na Li (CHN), 37/18 = 67,27% (a 11.45)
7. Caroline Wozniacki (DIN), 37/18 = 67,27% (a 11.45)
9. Tsvetana Pironkova (BUL), 33/17 = 66,00% (a 12.72)
10. Petra Kvitova (CZE), 39/21 = 65,00% (a 13.72)
11. Kaia Kanepi (EST), 37/20 = 64,91% (a 13.81)
11. Justine Henin (BEL), 37/20 = 64,91% (a 13.81)
13. Klara Zakopalova (CZE), 47/26 = 64,38% (a 14.34)
14. Marion Bartoli (FRA), 24/14 = 63,16% (a 15.56)
15. Jelena Jankovic (SRB), 41/24 = 63,08% (a 15.64)
16. Jarmila Groth (AUS), 37/22 = 62,71% (a 16.01)

Aga 2ş !!!! :) :worship:

rucolo
Jun 27th, 2010, 05:41 PM
Aga into R4!;):bounce:

The match was closer than the scoreline suggests.
But Aga made the important points.
She was mentally strong.:yeah:

Aga is beautiful to watch on grass.:hearts:

She will have to play her best to beat Li.
Fight hard and reach QF, Aga!!!

Aryman3
Jun 27th, 2010, 06:23 PM
Rampaging Radwanska is looking to break up the sister act

By Gary Fitzgerald 27/06/2010

AGNIESZKA Radwanska hammered her way into the second week - then sent a warning to the Williams sisters. The seventh seed is adamant she can fight for the Ladies Singles' crowd with Venus and Serena this year after sweeping aside Italian Sara Errani 6-3, 6-1 in just 100 minutes.

Pole Radwanska broke the erratic Errani in the fourth game of the opening set and never looked back.

She simply had too many ground stroke weapons for her shell-shocked opponent, who melted in the Wimbledon heat in the second set.

Radwanska, who could meet Serena in the last eight, has reached the quarter-finals here in the last two years.

And the 21-year-old from Krakow is desperate to go further, The world No.9, who faces ninth seed Na Li in the fourth round, insisted: "I am not here just to make up the numbers. I am here to try to win the tournament.
"Yes, the Williams sisters are still very strong and formidable. But they are not unbeatable and I believe I can go a long way this year.

"I've got more experience now and I'm playing as well as I ever have. Also, I have risen up the rankings and my confidence is high.

"So, yes, I have a shot at the title - even though not many people will expect me to get even to the semi-finals."

On her Chinese opponent, Radwanska said: "Li will be easily my toughest match yet. She hits the ball hard and accurately, and I will need to play my best to beat her.

"I would love to get the chance to play on Centre Court this year.

That has always been a big ambition of mine. Perhaps I could do it this year if I meet Serena."

Malva
Jun 27th, 2010, 07:39 PM
And the 21-year-old from Krakow is desperate to go further, The world No.9, who faces ninth seed Na Li in the fourth round, insisted: "I am not here just to make up the numbers. I am here to try to win the tournament.

"Yes, the Williams sisters are still very strong and formidable. But they are not unbeatable and I believe I can go a long way this year.

Wow! Agnieszka, I am very happy to hear that!

fede33
Jun 27th, 2010, 10:51 PM
This way one speaks Aga!! :rocker: I delight that it has confidence hope that it could win Li.Thank you for the interview Aryman3

gaja kesari
Jun 27th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Good luck tomorrow Agnieszka! Na is tough, but definitely beatable.

Have tickets for tomorrow, so I'm starting with court 18, yipeee!!!

Daruma.
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:20 AM
Good luck tomorrow Agnieszka! Na is tough, but definitely beatable.

Have tickets for tomorrow, so I'm starting with court 18, yipeee!!!

Have fun!

I had been away from home, so I couldn't watch Agnieszka's match vs Errani. The number of winners she hit during the match proves her aggression -probably- at the net, which is a very good strategy. She will need to be really consistent against Li as she has won Birmingham on grass this year, beating Maria Sharapova. Li has a big game with powerful groundstrokes but, as it is called in GM, she seems a little brainless ( sorry :p ) at times and that causes a lot of UEs and bad shot selection. That's the kind of player that Agnieszka should beat with her anticipation and speed and her good shot selection will be really important in this match. I wish her the very best. :kiss:

Pszczelny
Jun 28th, 2010, 07:45 AM
'Confident' are usually the ones who overestimate their capability and as a result they often lose. I always fear when Isia becomes 'confident' in a match -- she often gets herself into a trouble. So, I would rather say that in all her best performances we see her: determined, composed, focused.

After I saw her last few weeks being afraid of worse and worse players, I find a change into confident player as the best possible thing. I wish to see one day such Aga against Williams. Hopefully tomorrow.

Pszczelny
Jun 28th, 2010, 07:49 AM
Wow! Agnieszka, I am very happy to hear that!

Isn't that too much confidence for you? :lol:

saul1333
Jun 28th, 2010, 11:15 AM
Just got broken :mad:

0-2*

saul1333
Jun 28th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Need like 3x more errors :sad:

http://s57.radikal.ru/i155/1006/3e/599fc8487146.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

TeamUla
Jun 28th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Couldn't watch the match. What happened? :sad:

saul1333
Jun 28th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Grass - NO :sobbing: 3-6, 2-6. It felt so fast..all of her shots were going in.

http://s39.radikal.ru/i084/1006/d4/5875cec1c43e.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Agata.
Jun 28th, 2010, 01:00 PM
Couldn't watch the match. What happened? :sad:

Na played a very good match today, her shots were not only fast, but also very accurate. In the 1st set Agnieszka seemed a bit clueless, she was overpowered.
It seemed that Agnieszka was playing better after she came back from 0-2 to 2-2 15:0 in the 2nd set by winning 9 points in a row with accurate and deep shots, which caused problems to Na but then her 1st serve disappeared, she started to make quite easy errors, missed a relatively easy volley and another shot to get broken, despite having a GP in that game. She got a few chances to break in the next game, but a few good Na's serves helped her to hold. Then it was never in doubt who will win.

Pszczelny
Jun 28th, 2010, 02:12 PM
The way Aga played today was a tennis suicide. Her rival didn't play well. I had a feeling that most times Aga made 2 flat shots 1m over serve line, she had a point. Today so little was needed to win, still it was too much for Aga.

Anyway 4th round is more than expected, so hopefully it's just a beginning of improvement, not an accident.

fouc
Jun 28th, 2010, 03:28 PM
The way Aga played today was a tennis suicide. Her rival didn't play well. I had a feeling that most times Aga made 2 flat shots 1m over serve line, she had a point. Today so little was needed to win, still it was too much for Aga.

Anyway 4th round is more than expected, so hopefully it's just a beginning of improvement, not an accident.

Wow, how come is that? The #9 is NOT expected to get to the last16 level of her best Grand Slam? If she wasn't expected, what is she doing in the top20?

rucolo
Jun 28th, 2010, 05:03 PM
Aga :sad:

Li is a great actress: Dying swan in Eastbourne and now kicking asses in Wimbledon.:o:rolleyes:

A bad day for Aga.:hug:
So many balls too short, then Li hit winners.:(
Li`s serve was a weapon, Aga`s not.
Aga lacks power. But that`s nothing new.

Wow, how come is that? The #9 is NOT expected to get to the last16 level of her best Grand Slam? If she wasn't expected, what is she doing in the top20?

Agree. Wimbledon R4 for Aga was expected.
Everyone knew the match vs Li would be difficult. Li won Birmingham.

Still Aga`s Wimbledon record is really impressive::):worship:
2006 - R4
2007 - R3
2008 - QF
2009 - QF
2010 - R4

justine schnyder
Jun 28th, 2010, 05:21 PM
Ewwww what the hell? :sobbing:

(what a day :o WTA faves are 0-3 today :o )

Pszczelny
Jun 28th, 2010, 05:24 PM
Wow, how come is that? The #9 is NOT expected to get to the last16 level of her best Grand Slam? If she wasn't expected, what is she doing in the top20?

Fourth round means 3 wins in a row. Even 2 wins didn't happen to Aga in past few weeks. I can agree last 16 isn't a surprise, but in these circumstances it wasn't any sure thing. And ranking in something minor, says nothing about current shape.

Black Dog
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:09 PM
And the 21-year-old from Krakow is desperate to go further, The world No.9, who faces ninth seed Na Li in the fourth round, insisted: am not here just to make up the numbers. I am here to try to win the tournament.

She looked quite desperate on court today, too bad it wasn't "desperate to go further"... My take on this issue is obviously biased (since it's mine :D), but I have to say that I don't like this kind of speech (not only in her). Words are really overrated stuff... Everyone can come to the press and say he/she's living his/her best moment, that confidence is at its peak and whatnot; now there's a huge gap between words and actions, and if you don't take that ambition and confidence to the court along with yourself, the result is quite predictable.
I was seeing the match in my lunch break and I couldn't help but remembering that clash she had with Petkovic last year, where she had lost the 1st set and was down 2-4 in the 2nd. Aga was a bit clueless, but as soon as she sniffed an opportunity (sensing a break in Petkovic's momentum), she grabbed the match and ended up winning it... Of course Petkovic is no Na Li (even though she's a great player as well), but when Aga managed to level today's match 2-2 in the 2nd, I sort of expected her to turn the tides, since Na Li wasn't showing the same arguments. But she didn't fight, she looked like she didn't really care that much, like she was already on a plane back to her hometown...

The only thing I can draw from all this is that this kind of (emotional) exhibition is incompatible with that kind of speech; it's not a criticism, it's a fact.

It was a good run, nevertheless (at least better than what she's been making in the last few tourneys), but I really think she needs to take some time to sort out her mind and build her confidence. I'm expecting a good return to the circuit and I feel that, once her sister starts playing as well, Aga will find some joy again! :)

Cinek
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:17 PM
Aga :hug:
Very good play by Na Li, too good for Aga today.
4th round ;)
Come on in next tournaments!

CoeXist
Jun 28th, 2010, 10:30 PM
Taking in account that her seed was no 7. Being defeated in the 4th round is a big loss, especially after such an easy draw.. Of course she may say that it is not a crisis, but since FedCup she is not capable to win over Top20 player or any other inform one. Still hope she will have a good summer and a good shot at USopen, but there she will be seeded with no10 or even further..

fouc
Jun 28th, 2010, 10:37 PM
She looked quite desperate on court today, too bad it wasn't "desperate to go further"... My take on this issue is obviously biased (since it's mine :D), but I have to say that I don't like this kind of speech (not only in her). Words are really overrated stuff... Everyone can come to the press and say he/she's living his/her best moment, that confidence is at its peak and whatnot; now there's a huge gap between words and actions, and if you don't take that ambition and confidence to the court along with yourself, the result is quite predictable.
I was seeing the match in my lunch break and I couldn't help but remembering that clash she had with Petkovic last year, where she had lost the 1st set and was down 2-4 in the 2nd. Aga was a bit clueless, but as soon as she sniffed an opportunity (sensing a break in Petkovic's momentum), she grabbed the match and ended up winning it... Of course Petkovic is no Na Li (even though she's a great player as well), but when Aga managed to level today's match 2-2 in the 2nd, I sort of expected her to turn the tides, since Na Li wasn't showing the same arguments. But she didn't fight, she looked like she didn't really care that much, like she was already on a plane back to her hometown...

The only thing I can draw from all this is that this kind of (emotional) exhibition is incompatible with that kind of speech; it's not a criticism, it's a fact.

It was a good run, nevertheless (at least better than what she's been making in the last few tourneys), but I really think she needs to take some time to sort out her mind and build her confidence. I'm expecting a good return to the circuit and I feel that, once her sister starts playing as well, Aga will find some joy again! :)

Have to agree. It seems like Aga has no real ambition whatsoever. She is like the biggest hater of herself, really. She should learn something from Serena. From her interviews (including the newest one, after the defeat), it seems like if she was really enjoying her time in top 20 and is not planning to excel herself too much. When she loses, she says sth like - she played great, sometimes you have to lose, it's tennis, I was playing fine, There is no crisis, I wish for everyone to be top 20 in the world, and so on. No real goals or expectations. Just playing tennis - sometimes winning, sometimes losing. Nice that she's so cool, but it's kinda... repulsive. A sportswomen should demand more from herself. When she was to predict 2010 year end rankings she put herself at #10, like if she wasn't expecting anything more. It makes us, the posters, quite funny when we're debating on whether she can advance to SF of a slam anytime soon? top 5? GS win after sisters retire? She has no plans of that whatsoever.

It's so clear when she says that it was easier when she was an underdog climbing up the rankings, and now it's harder to stay where she is... like if there is nothing to achieve more, and no match-ups where she's an underdog.
Aga behaves like if she was saying that she has just reached her peak.

Malva
Jun 29th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Anyway 4th round is more than expected, so hopefully it's just a beginning of improvement, not an accident.

If the "4th round is more than expected", then Agnieszka is on her way out of the Top 10 which unfortunately seems to be happening very soon indeed.

Aryman3
Jun 30th, 2010, 03:57 AM
As informs Polish press today Wiktor Archutowski is no longer the manager of Radwanska sisters.
The reasons are nor given.

Aryman3
Jun 30th, 2010, 04:12 AM
More details Health is mentioned but in the light of other facts it can be just an excuse

"Victor Archutowski nie jest już menedżerem sióstr Radwańskich" - napisał we wtorek w SMS-ie do dziennikarzy Robert Radwański, ojciec i trener najlepszych polskich tenisistek. "Sam zrezygnowałem z powodów zdrowotnych" - przysłał po godzinie swojego SMS-a Archutowski. Obaj nie chcieli tego dnia rozmawiać z mediami. Czy sprawa ma drugie dno?

Archutowski pełnił rolę menedżera Agnieszki i Urszuli Radwańskich w ostatnich dwóch latach. Był też nieformalnym rzecznikiem prasowym, często komentował wyniki sióstr, odbierał telefony od dziennikarzy, gdy ci nie mogli się dodzwonić do trenera Radwańskiego.

Do rozstania doszło nagle, choć wtajemniczeni twierdzą, że zanosiło się na nie od dawna. Jeszcze dwa dni wcześniej Archutowski był gościem na grillu organizowanym przez rodzinę Radwańskich w Wimbledonie niedaleko kortów. Pomiędzy nim, a Radwańskimi, stosunki były wtedy jak najbardziej pozytywne. Victor od dawna był dobrym przyjacielem rodziny.

Wiadomo jednak, że w ostatnim czasie nie udało się zawrzeć kilku biznesowych kontraktów, nad którymi pracował Archutowski. Pochodzący z Anglii, ale świetnie mówiący po polsku menedżer, przygotowywał m.in. przedłużenie umowy sponsorskiej z marką zegarków - Longines. Prowadził też rozmowy z ministerstwem kultury i sportu w sprawie honorowego patronatu teamu Radwańskich nad obchodami 30-lecia " Solidarności" (darmowego, ale trener Radwański traktował sprawę bardzo prestiżowo). Do zawarcia obu umów nie doszło. Warunki proponowane przez Longinesa nie zostały - według nieoficjalnych informacji - zaakceptowane przez Radwańskiego, a z ministerstwem rozmowy urwały się po śmierci w katastrofie pod Smoleńskiej Tomasza Merty, który pilotował sprawę z ramienia resortu kultury. - Po jego śmierci uznali, że to sprawa polityczna, wszystko się popsuło. Zupełnie nie rozumiem dlaczego, ale to Victora proszę pytać, on to pilotował - mówił Radwański kilka dni temu.

Wiadomo też, że od dawna Archutowski bezskutecznie poszukiwał sponsora strategicznego dla Agnieszki i Urszuli w miejsce Prokomu, który wycofał się na początku 2008 r. Szukał też kontraktu odzieżowego - Agnieszka jest jedyną tenisistką z dziesiątki, która wciąż nie ma umowy na stroje. Żadnego dużego kontraktu nie udało się jednak podpisać, choć w ostatnich dwóch latach Radwańska miała kilka mniejszych umów - m.in. z Mercedesem, producentem butów Ryłko, a ostatnio z miastem Kraków, czego efektem naszywka " Krakow.pl" na jej stroju w Roland Garros i Wimbledonie.

Archutowski wielokrotnie był blisko porozumienia - np. z Filą i chińską marką Erke już prawie osiągnięto kompromis w sprawie umowy na stroje, ale pod koniec zawsze coś się psuło. Często decydowała twarda postawa Radwańskiego, który nigdy nie chciał się zgodzić na oddawanie części kontraktu pośrednikom - to w dzisiejszym tenisie niemal standard, że między zawodnika i koncern odzieżowy wchodzi jedna z agencji: Best (obecnie Lagardere), IMG lub Octagon. Bez prowizji dla agencji nie da się np. podpisać umowy z Adidasem i Nike.

Możliwe, że na rozstaniu zaważyło więc to, że Radwański z Archutowskim nie umieli osiągnąć kompromisu - jeden oczekiwał kontraktów, a drugi oczekiwał od pierwszego większej elastyczności wobec partnerów.

Możliwy w końcu jest też scenariusz, że naprawdę zdecydowały względy zdrowotne. " Z powodów zdrowotnych od końca Wimbledonu zrezygnowałem z funkcji menedżera teamu Radwańskich. Życzę siostrom dalszych sukcesów, a Uli powrotu do zdrowia. Zawsze będę trzymał kciuki" - napisał w SMS-ie do dziennikarzy Archutowski.

Sport.pl

Irute
Jun 30th, 2010, 06:30 PM
If the "4th round is more than expected", then Agnieszka is on her way out of the Top 10 which unfortunately seems to be happening very soon indeed.

Aga will probably be out of top 10; but this is where she is right now. It is neither good or bad as everyone goes through stages. We all wish she would be on straight ascending line, but it alsmost never happens. I hope she will get there soon.

Black Dog
Jun 30th, 2010, 09:22 PM
More details Health is mentioned but in the light of other facts it can be just an excuse

"Victor Archutowski nie jest już menedżerem sióstr Radwańskich" - napisał we wtorek w SMS-ie do dziennikarzy Robert Radwański, ojciec i trener najlepszych polskich tenisistek. "Sam zrezygnowałem z powodów zdrowotnych" - przysłał po godzinie swojego SMS-a Archutowski. Obaj nie chcieli tego dnia rozmawiać z mediami. Czy sprawa ma drugie dno?

Archutowski pełnił rolę menedżera Agnieszki i Urszuli Radwańskich w ostatnich dwóch latach. Był też nieformalnym rzecznikiem prasowym, często komentował wyniki sióstr, odbierał telefony od dziennikarzy, gdy ci nie mogli się dodzwonić do trenera Radwańskiego.

Do rozstania doszło nagle, choć wtajemniczeni twierdzą, że zanosiło się na nie od dawna. Jeszcze dwa dni wcześniej Archutowski był gościem na grillu organizowanym przez rodzinę Radwańskich w Wimbledonie niedaleko kortów. Pomiędzy nim, a Radwańskimi, stosunki były wtedy jak najbardziej pozytywne. Victor od dawna był dobrym przyjacielem rodziny.

Wiadomo jednak, że w ostatnim czasie nie udało się zawrzeć kilku biznesowych kontraktów, nad którymi pracował Archutowski. Pochodzący z Anglii, ale świetnie mówiący po polsku menedżer, przygotowywał m.in. przedłużenie umowy sponsorskiej z marką zegarków - Longines. Prowadził też rozmowy z ministerstwem kultury i sportu w sprawie honorowego patronatu teamu Radwańskich nad obchodami 30-lecia " Solidarności" (darmowego, ale trener Radwański traktował sprawę bardzo prestiżowo). Do zawarcia obu umów nie doszło. Warunki proponowane przez Longinesa nie zostały - według nieoficjalnych informacji - zaakceptowane przez Radwańskiego, a z ministerstwem rozmowy urwały się po śmierci w katastrofie pod Smoleńskiej Tomasza Merty, który pilotował sprawę z ramienia resortu kultury. - Po jego śmierci uznali, że to sprawa polityczna, wszystko się popsuło. Zupełnie nie rozumiem dlaczego, ale to Victora proszę pytać, on to pilotował - mówił Radwański kilka dni temu.

Wiadomo też, że od dawna Archutowski bezskutecznie poszukiwał sponsora strategicznego dla Agnieszki i Urszuli w miejsce Prokomu, który wycofał się na początku 2008 r. Szukał też kontraktu odzieżowego - Agnieszka jest jedyną tenisistką z dziesiątki, która wciąż nie ma umowy na stroje. Żadnego dużego kontraktu nie udało się jednak podpisać, choć w ostatnich dwóch latach Radwańska miała kilka mniejszych umów - m.in. z Mercedesem, producentem butów Ryłko, a ostatnio z miastem Kraków, czego efektem naszywka " Krakow.pl" na jej stroju w Roland Garros i Wimbledonie.

Archutowski wielokrotnie był blisko porozumienia - np. z Filą i chińską marką Erke już prawie osiągnięto kompromis w sprawie umowy na stroje, ale pod koniec zawsze coś się psuło. Często decydowała twarda postawa Radwańskiego, który nigdy nie chciał się zgodzić na oddawanie części kontraktu pośrednikom - to w dzisiejszym tenisie niemal standard, że między zawodnika i koncern odzieżowy wchodzi jedna z agencji: Best (obecnie Lagardere), IMG lub Octagon. Bez prowizji dla agencji nie da się np. podpisać umowy z Adidasem i Nike.

Możliwe, że na rozstaniu zaważyło więc to, że Radwański z Archutowskim nie umieli osiągnąć kompromisu - jeden oczekiwał kontraktów, a drugi oczekiwał od pierwszego większej elastyczności wobec partnerów.

Możliwy w końcu jest też scenariusz, że naprawdę zdecydowały względy zdrowotne. " Z powodów zdrowotnych od końca Wimbledonu zrezygnowałem z funkcji menedżera teamu Radwańskich. Życzę siostrom dalszych sukcesów, a Uli powrotu do zdrowia. Zawsze będę trzymał kciuki" - napisał w SMS-ie do dziennikarzy Archutowski.

Sport.pl

8_ofFa50LzY :music:

Black Dog
Jun 30th, 2010, 09:27 PM
Not that I understand polish, but Google translator returned me the word "commission" a couple of times! :lol:

AndreConrad
Jul 1st, 2010, 11:39 AM
Not that I understand polish, but Google translator returned me the word "commission" a couple of times! :lol:
The article states that he has resigned and it speculates that the reason for it was that he wasn't able to close any sponsorships for Agnieszka. If that is true, then it is about money. Even if Agnieszka's family is difficult on agreeing on reasonable terms the role of an agent is to make them understand what are the reasonable terms.