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OsloErik
Jun 9th, 2010, 06:15 PM
I was looking at Schiavone's activity from last season, and I noticed she only has around 1000 points to defend until after the US Open. Shocking though it may be, she has a good chance to IMPROVE her ranking.

It got me wondering, who else at career-high rankings has room to rise in the rankings through the US Open?

Schiavone (~1000 points to defend), meaning she's striking-distance from the top 5 (top 4 as well, which matters for slam seeding)
Stosur (~1050 points to defend), meaning she's ALSO striking-distance from those spots in the ranking
Peer (~530 points to defend), meaning she's got a good shot at reaching the outer-reaches of the top 10 with a solid showing during the US Open series
Rezai (under 200 points to defend)

I'd appreciate a few player-specific fans filling us in on the players in the 30-50 range, like Dulgheru, Shvedova, Govortsova, etc. There are quite a few players who could conceivably reach the seeding cutoff for the US Open with solid showings in the next two months. For rankings geeks, the current 32nd seed threshold is roughly 1750 points, and there are almost 20 players within 500 points of that mark. The US Open series has a lot at stake for the the 24-50 ranked crowd.

ZODIAC
Jun 9th, 2010, 06:56 PM
some of the mentioned players are not good on the American hardcourts and hate playing in America and only come NEAR the time the Open starts.

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:02 PM
I was looking at Schiavone's activity from last season, and I noticed she only has around 1000 points to defend until after the US Open. Shocking though it may be, she has a good chance to IMPROVE her ranking.

Schiavone has a QF at Wimbledon to defend. This alone is a HUGE challenge for her. And it's not like she excels on US hardcourts either.
If somebody's gonna replace Dementieva in the top-5 in the coming weeks it will be Stosur.

Caillou
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Idk why everyone is suddenly pretending like schiavone is gunna get all these amazing results. She has been around for a long time, played a good tournament and was really fortuante with her draw. I'm not taking anything away from her victory, congrats to her, but ppl aren't being realistic. I guess only time will tell. After all, she might prove me wrong.

Ferg
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Bartoli has 630 point to defend till after it... 470 came from Stanford. :scared: Hard is her best surface, so heres hoping she can do some improvement.

-Sonic-
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:21 PM
Take away Franny's FO win and that leaves around 3000 points.

1000 of that is quite a lot... she'll have easier draws as a higher seed, but it'll still be a hard job to get a significantly higher haul of points this time round.

colt13
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:41 PM
Cibulkova missed the US Open last year, only has 300 pts to defend from now until October.

Shvedova probably is on the seeding bubble with approx 600 points to defend.

Lisicki has the opposite problem, with 700 pts to defend, and unlikely to do so.

Can Oudin do enough to get the 32 seed in 2 weeks? If not, she has about 1000 pts coming off this summer.

Last, if you thought the clay season hurt her, Safina has 2000 to defend BEFORE the US Open. It is conceivable that she won't be seeded there with a Wimbledon semi and a Cinci final to defend.

Mr.Sharapova
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Sharapova can really improve her performances during this summer and at Wimbledon + US Open so a good run on those and she is a top 8 again

OsloErik
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Schiavone has a QF at Wimbledon to defend. This alone is a HUGE challenge for her. And it's not like she excels on US hardcourts either.
If somebody's gonna replace Dementieva in the top-5 in the coming weeks it will be Stosur.

Idk why everyone is suddenly pretending like schiavone is gunna get all these amazing results. She has been around for a long time, played a good tournament and was really fortuante with her draw. I'm not taking anything away from her victory, congrats to her, but ppl aren't being realistic. I guess only time will tell. After all, she might prove me wrong.

Take away Franny's FO win and that leaves around 3000 points.

1000 of that is quite a lot... she'll have easier draws as a higher seed, but it'll still be a hard job to get a significantly higher haul of points this time round.

The big point about her having "only" 1000 points to defend: the players above her (particularly Dementieva and Wozniacki, who haven't looked good since 2009) have well over 2000 points to defend through the US Open. She doesn't HAVE to do anything to rise in the rankings if they don't perform well, and I wouldn't put money on them performing well at this point. Basically, I think Schiavone will have a better summer than those two, and she doesn't even need a better summer to pass them in the rankings.

I think we're ignoring that Schiavone had a pretty solid 2010 even before her win. 4th Round at the Aussie is a good result, her title in Barcelona was a good result. Her end of 2009 was also very good. She's been in better-than-usual form for 12 months now. if anything, the stretch between the Aussie and Barcelona was a mini-slump for her, recently.

I certainly don't see her winning a slam again (this was a fairytale run fo a reason), but I also don't see her collapsing in like a supernova. She is too much of a veteran for that to happen. And considering she'd never been in the top 10 before this week, it's pretty remarkable that she's got a pretty good shot of making the top 5 or higher.

Chorophyll
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:51 PM
Schiavone has a QF at Wimbledon to defend. This alone is a HUGE challenge for her. And it's not like she excels on US hardcourts either.
If somebody's gonna replace Dementieva in the top-5 in the coming weeks it will be Stosur.

Someone will handle Stosur hopefully.

Temperenka
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:53 PM
Victoria was must have very few to defend. I remember being unhappy last summer.

hurricanejeanne
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:58 PM
Victoria was must have very few to defend. I remember being unhappy last summer.

Yeah I don't know her point count but she had some crappy draws last summer (getting comeback Maria and Kim early in tournaments) and she lost to Fran at the USO. She could move up again with a good summer after Wimbledon, where she's defending a quartefinal.

VeeJJ
Jun 9th, 2010, 11:04 PM
jelena doesn't really have much to defend until after the USO :)))

skanky~skanketta
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:52 AM
Justine could push for the top 10 and Kim could get close to the top 5 with a good run at Wimbledon.

tennnisfannn
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:20 AM
jelena doesn't really have much to defend until after the USO :)))
neither do Venus and Serena, at this rate there might not any significant changes in the top 5. Venua might actually win Stanford. she has been a finalist there for so many years- lost the final ti linday, kim and Bartoli. she will lose there to just about anyone.

Jolene
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:25 AM
Venua might actually win Stanford. she has been a finalist there for so many years- lost the final ti linday, kim and Bartoli. she will lose there to just about anyone.

She wouldn't lose there to Shahar! :) Of course, for Shahar, the big step would be getting there. Last year she was still in her massive slump until after the US Open, if I remember correctly. How did she do on US hardcourts in 2007 and 2008?

Curtos07
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:33 AM
After Wimbledon, Ana Ivanovic has barely any points to defend.

San Diego (replacing LA): 3rd round
Cincinnati: 2nd round
Montreal: 2nd round
USO: 1st round
Tokyo: 1st round
Being: DNP

And she can and should add more tournaments to her schedule in the fall. If she can have a decent 2nd half, Ana should rise in the rankings again. :)

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 10th, 2010, 08:40 AM
I certainly don't see her winning a slam again (this was a fairytale run fo a reason), but I also don't see her collapsing in like a supernova. She is too much of a veteran for that to happen. And considering she'd never been in the top 10 before this week, it's pretty remarkable that she's got a pretty good shot of making the top 5 or higher.

Schiavone won't "collapse" but I don't see her doing better than Dementieva and Wozniacki on grass and US hardcourts.

tennnisfannn
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:11 AM
Schaivone has always had a good game, who knows what a boost in confidence will do for her game!

Jajaloo
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:38 AM
Jankovic has to defend Cincinatti. But she can make up a lot of ground at the USO. She then has to defend last year's Tokyo final, but can again, doesn't have anything really to defend in Beijing.

s_j
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:48 AM
Henin, Sharapova and pretty much anyone else :shrug:

Pops Maellard
Jun 10th, 2010, 09:52 AM
After Wimbledon, Ana Ivanovic has barely any points to defend.

San Diego (replacing LA): 3rd round
Cincinnati: 2nd round
Montreal: 2nd round
USO: 1st round
Tokyo: 1st round
Being: DNP

And she can and should add more tournaments to her schedule in the fall. If she can have a decent 2nd half, Ana should rise in the rankings again. :)
Not gonna happen. :p

volta
Jun 10th, 2010, 10:00 AM
Cibulkova missed the US Open last year, only has 300 pts to defend from now until October.

Shvedova probably is on the seeding bubble with approx 600 points to defend.

Lisicki has the opposite problem, with 700 pts to defend, and unlikely to do so.

Can Oudin do enough to get the 32 seed in 2 weeks? If not, she has about 1000 pts coming off this summer.

Last, if you thought the clay season hurt her, Safina has 2000 to defend BEFORE the US Open. It is conceivable that she won't be seeded there with a Wimbledon semi and a Cinci final to defend.

let's hope that she finds some kinda form :o Even though she lost, her match against Vee showed sights of improvement

OsloErik
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:34 PM
Schiavone won't "collapse" but I don't see her doing better than Dementieva and Wozniacki on grass and US hardcourts.

Dementieva, whom last we heard was a doubt for Wimbledon because of a torn calf muscle, and Wozniacki, who played something like 11 straight weeks injured? I grant you that both are capable of bigger things than Schiavone week-in, week-out, but neither looks set to be healthy, and both have waaaaaaay more points to defend. They have to play around 500 points better than Schiavone, who now has the benefit of a higher seeding at the smaller events, and have to do so with injury questions hanging over them.

I am sceptical.

OsloErik
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:35 PM
She wouldn't lose there to Shahar! :) Of course, for Shahar, the big step would be getting there. Last year she was still in her massive slump until after the US Open, if I remember correctly. How did she do on US hardcourts in 2007 and 2008?

Peer was a quarterfinalist at the US Open in 2007, I believe, which was indicative of how she was playing, and had a mediocre 2008. She's a tough cookie on hard courts, better than on clay.

OsloErik
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:39 PM
After Wimbledon, Ana Ivanovic has barely any points to defend.

San Diego (replacing LA): 3rd round
Cincinnati: 2nd round
Montreal: 2nd round
USO: 1st round
Tokyo: 1st round
Being: DNP

And she can and should add more tournaments to her schedule in the fall. If she can have a decent 2nd half, Ana should rise in the rankings again. :)

For starters (and sorry to pick on you, the Henin-Sharapova-Azarenka folk are doing it too), Ivanovic is nowhere near her career high ranking, which was the goal of the thread. Not that it isn't valid to point out the half-dozen top-10 caliber players languishing down the rankings, but it wasn't what the thread asked.

But to address the post directly, she doesn't even need to have a DECENT 2nd half. She could play mediocre tennis and still rise, because it would take not playing for her to fall any further. And since she's traditionally done well in the US Open series (that's where her real breakthrough was in 2006, if you ask me), I'd expect her to have a few good showings and get back to the top 30 or so by year end.

OsloErik
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:41 PM
neither do Venus and Serena, at this rate there might not any significant changes in the top 5.

That's 3/5 top 5 players without much to defend (and if you don't count a Wimbledon title and a Wimbledon final a lot to defend...), and 2 with a lot to defend who have been injured lately. I'd say we'll see at least two new top 5 players after the US Open.

roelc
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:45 PM
belgian girls can move up a lot until us open, nothing to defend at wimbledon.
justine still has all year to keep on adding points