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Just Do It
Jun 9th, 2010, 02:58 PM
:confused:

Lucemferre
Jun 9th, 2010, 02:58 PM
:lol:

Just Do It
Jun 9th, 2010, 02:59 PM
:devil:

fufuqifuqishahah
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:03 PM
if they roll around in the clay dirt together in carnal embrace, the answer to the question will no longer be important

Volcana
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Now? Schiavone.

Venus is good on clay, but what did she win in the last couple years? If it isn't Rome, Madrid or Roland Garros, there's no discussion.

SoClose
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:06 PM
Venus of course :lol: she has beaten schiavone on clay and it was just before RG :)

Lucemferre
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Venus of course :lol: she has beaten schiavone on clay and it was just before RG :)

But you said Schiavone is greater than jankovic because she has the major:weirdo:

SoClose
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:16 PM
But you said Schiavone is greater than jankovic because she has the major:weirdo:

anyway but Venus is better than Jelena :)

Freakan
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:17 PM
Venus won 2 Acapulco titles in a row so in her fans' eyes that makes her >>>>>> Schiavone.

SoClose
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Venus won 2 Acapulco titles in a row so in her fans' eyes that makes her >>>>>> Schiavone.

no metter on which surface they play Venus will always beat Schiavone .Even if they play on the moon , Venus will beat her again. If this doesn't make Venus better than Schiavone i don't know what does :)

The Witch-king
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:24 PM
Where's the "Hard to say" option :shrug:

Umberella
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:29 PM
Overall, Venus is the better player, but I reckon on clay Schiavone will take it, at least for now.

Vaidisova Ruled
Jun 9th, 2010, 03:30 PM
Nice thread:lol:
A lot of Venus fans were saying that Schiavone >>>>>>> Jankovic (or someone else) because she won RG. Let's see what they'll say now :devil:

danieln1
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:01 PM
Tough thread, against Jankovic was easy to say, but this... :lol:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Francesca

Madoka
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:03 PM
Francesca never defeated Venus on any surface...

btw i dont understand all these threads -_-

rockstar
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:07 PM
:lol: at some of the venus' fans responses.

of course it's the slams that only matter :hearts:

envisiond2010
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:08 PM
Venus is a better player that Francesca on any surface. Francesca did better than Venus at RG, and has a title that Venus will never win.

debby
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:12 PM
Omg why did I vote for Venus? wrong choice, I wanted to vote for Fran, I dont know why I chose the wrong option :lol: LMAO

Uranium
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Venus
Win - Rome, Warsaw, Hamburg, Charleston, Amelia Island, MM events
Finals - RG, Madrid, Berlin

Schiavone
Win - Roland Garros, MMs
Finals - Amelia Island, MMs.

Schiavone's win was a fluke. Venus is the greater clay courter IMO.

Ferg
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:14 PM
Fran because of the obvious explanation!

OsloErik
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:14 PM
Venus is quite good on clay, just not in Paris.

I'm still going with Schiavone.

Helen Lawson
Jun 9th, 2010, 05:22 PM
Someone was posted that Venus was better on clay than Mary Pierce and Jennifer Capriati, and you sort of can agree, age just doesn't have that one major to prove it. I put Venus up against Fran any day of the week on any surface, but that's not how the draw played out.

V-MAC
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:29 PM
Nice thread:lol:
A lot of Venus fans were saying that Schiavone >>>>>>> Jankovic (or someone else) because she won RG. Let's see what they'll say now :devil:

Quite a considerable number of us Vee fans are also JJ fans I will have you know:cool:

Olórin
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:34 PM
Omg why did I vote for Venus? wrong choice, I wanted to vote for Fran, I dont know why I chose the wrong option :lol: LMAO

You did the right thing, well done :yeah:

debby
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:37 PM
You did the right thing, well done :yeah:

I am cursed by the WS fans : voted for Venus, picking Venus for the Wimbledon title, defending Venus a bit into a discussion with Matt01 in another thread... what's next? Thinking Venus is better than Henin? :scared:

dsanders06
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:45 PM
ROFL at this thread. The premier sign that Williams fans are FULL of shit - especially "deejay asbestos" who was saying that Schiavone was "obviously" greater than Jankovic/Dementieva yesterday, yet it's "hard to say" for this one. :lol:

Anyway, the answer is clearly Venus.

John.
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:46 PM
Venus

miffedmax
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:49 PM
Venus. :yawn:

You want to know what major winner/Top 10 type player Fran takes down on clay?

Prolly fucking Myskina. What a match that would be.

dynamoRockstarr
Jun 9th, 2010, 07:53 PM
I'm a Venus fan and i voted Francesca.

Francesca knows how to play the surface, she's just unlucky against Vee the last time they played, Vee is a bad match up for her....

The Witch-king
Jun 9th, 2010, 08:08 PM
ROFL at this thread. The premier sign that Williams fans are FULL of shit - especially "deejay asbestos" who was saying that Schiavone was "obviously" greater than Jankovic/Dementieva yesterday, yet it's "hard to say" for this one. :lol:

Anyway, the answer is clearly Venus.
:wavey:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g123/Whereisthelove7/6a00d83451b8c369e20115702de376970b-.gif

glad to know i keep you entertained :)

your obsession with "Williams fans" is really weird. What makes you think I'm not a Schiavone fan?

it-girl
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:12 PM
Venus clearly. Look at what they both have accomplished on clay throughout their careers. They are close to the same age & Venus has clearly done more on clay than Schiavone. As for the Jelena argument they asked who was greater & not who is better/greater on clay. They are asking who is greater between JJ & Schiavone because Schiavone has a major title & JJ doesn't, which puts them in 2 different conversations.

Vlover
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:19 PM
:wavey:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g123/Whereisthelove7/6a00d83451b8c369e20115702de376970b-.gif

glad to know i keep you entertained :)

your obsession with "Williams fans" is really weird. What makes you think I'm not a Schiavone fan?
I find your constant bitch slapping of dsanders hilarious!:happy:

it-girl
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:21 PM
:wavey:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g123/Whereisthelove7/6a00d83451b8c369e20115702de376970b-.gifHe looks like a HOT MESS:help:

tievae
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:24 PM
On clay, of course, Francy is Queen because she is Roland Garros Champion! :yeah:

JJ Expres
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:24 PM
Venus of course :lol: she has beaten schiavone on clay and it was just before RG :)

in topic who is greater JJ or Schiavone you said 1 slam>0 slam
now you change your mind?now its not 1 slam>0 slam
who is better on clay JJ or Venus?

i vote for venus cause she is clearly better on clay.

JJ Expres
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:27 PM
Venus clearly. Look at what they both have accomplished on clay throughout their careers. They are close to the same age & Venus has clearly done more on clay than Schiavone. As for the Jelena argument they asked who was greater & not who is better/greater on clay. They are asking who is greater between JJ & Schiavone because Schiavone has a major title & JJ doesn't, which puts them in 2 different conversations.

lol you sound stupid...and i never say that to any1...

sky20748
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:49 PM
How the heck is Schiavone better on clay. Give me a break she won 1 French Open in how many tries and 3 tournament titles period. Now she is the greatest thing to hit the clay. yea ok. I am a Schiavone fan but come on now. Venus has won what 9-10 clay titles. Justine is better than them all and I dont really care for her. But overall records everyone is better than Schiavone on the clay. Just she put together 2 awesome ass weeks to become the winner.Let's reserve this question for when she really does some damage on the clay.

Slutiana
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:51 PM
'Greater' and 'better' are two completely different questions altogether. If A) Francesca B) Venus.

Matt01
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:52 PM
How the heck is Schiavone better on clay. Give me a break she won 1 French Open in how many tries and 3 tournament titles period. Now she is the greatest thing to hit the clay. yea ok. I am a Schiavone fan but come on now. Venus has won what 9-10 clay titles. Justine is better than them all and I dont really care for her. But overall records everyone is better than Schiavone on the clay. Just she put together 2 awesome ass weeks to become the winner.Let's reserve this question for when she really does some damage on the clay.


You're sure you are a Schiavone fan? :scared: And what exactly do you expect you from someone to do "some damage on the clay" if not a French Open win?

sky20748
Jun 9th, 2010, 10:55 PM
Venus is a better player that Francesca on any surface. Francesca did better than Venus at RG, and has a title that Venus will never win.

I agree except with the never part. Let's reserve that for when she puts down her racket. Let's just say Franny has won the title Venus has yet to win. Now that sounds better. and besides where are all the up and comers. The ones who were heralded as the next big thing. What is happening to all these younger players.wow Radwanska now I think clay is her best chance to win a major, Elena D, what happened oh my bad the calf, Azaranka, Wozniacki,Sabine I mean the list goes on but I must say I will be glad when the tour is all healthy and the real battles take shape. tired of the injuries and the I don't really feel like playing mess. I miss the healthy winner takes all tour.Don't like this moving up the rankings by default. Let's get back to earning your way...A fan of many:bounce:

Mightymirza
Jun 10th, 2010, 12:59 AM
no metter on which surface they play Venus will always beat Schiavone .Even if they play on the moon , Venus will beat her again. If this doesn't make Venus better than Schiavone i don't know what does :)

:yawn: looks like you have not followed venus's career :lol:

VishaalMaria
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:26 AM
Nice thread:lol:
A lot of Venus fans were saying that Schiavone >>>>>>> Jankovic (or someone else) because she won RG. Let's see what they'll say now :devil:

Schiavone still. Her variety of shots plus the fact she won Roland Garros recently make her better.

Although I didn't post in the "Jankovic v Schiavone" thread, I feel Schiavone is better than Venus and Jelena on clay.

VishaalMaria
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:28 AM
ROFL at this thread. The premier sign that Williams fans are FULL of shit - especially "deejay asbestos" who was saying that Schiavone was "obviously" greater than Jankovic/Dementieva yesterday, yet it's "hard to say" for this one. :lol:

Anyway, the answer is clearly Venus.

Why is it clearly Venus? Just interested.

dsanders06
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:31 AM
Why is it clearly Venus? Just interested.

Two Tier One titles on the surface and quite a few Tier 2s, plus more FO QFs. I think Schiavone has only ever won one International on clay apart from her FO win.

spiritedenergy
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:35 AM
1 slam > 0 slams.

Fra:worship:

gc-spurs
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:38 AM
'Greater' and 'better' are two completely different questions altogether. If A) Francesca B) Venus.

Something like this.

sky20748
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:11 AM
You're sure you are a Schiavone fan? :scared: And what exactly do you expect you from someone to do "some damage on the clay" if not a French Open win?

:lol:Are you sure you are speaking English because your statement is all over the place. :help:FYI I am a Schiavone fan all the way but also others as well. The truth is the truth yes Franny won the french and hell yea I am glad of that.Is she a better clay player than Venus hell no so come on now one slam do not make you the best. Do I hope she wins more slams? Would be so amazing if she did. Again I belittle no ones accomplishments. This thread is for what? I support Dementieva,Venus,Schiavone,and a few others who I shall keep to myself lol but again Yes I am a fan and hell yes I jumped for joy when she won.:bounce:

Caillou
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:37 AM
Sooooo dumb, Venus is my answer. One tournament doesn't define greatness on a surface. Right before the french Venus rolled over Schiavone, on clay.........

rockstar
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:00 AM
all the hypocrites being exposed :lol:

Caralenko
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:04 AM
Francesca :shrug:

Venus is no Tanasugarn on clay though, contrary to popular belief.

Matt01
Jun 10th, 2010, 11:39 AM
:lol:Are you sure you are speaking English because your statement is all over the place. :help:


And your English isn't? But I see you're also a Venus fan, that explains your opinion :p

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 10th, 2010, 11:44 AM
all the hypocrites being exposed :lol:

Like all the Jelena fans who made an argument for Jankovic in the JJ vs Schiavone poll and are now voting for Franny?

This poll really does expose the hypocrite Jankovic fans.

madmax
Jun 10th, 2010, 11:45 AM
Franny...Clay Slam > anything Venus has done on the surface

new-york
Jun 10th, 2010, 11:46 AM
Franny...Clay Slam > anything Venus has done on the surface

what exactly did clay Sam do that Venus hasn't done before?

JJ Expres
Jun 10th, 2010, 12:12 PM
what exactly did clay Sam do that Venus hasn't done before?

he said clay sLam...

The Witch-king
Jun 10th, 2010, 12:37 PM
he said clay sLam...

the question still holds

rockstar
Jun 10th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Like all the Jelena fans who made an argument for Jankovic in the JJ vs Schiavone poll and are now voting for Franny?

This poll really does expose the hypocrite Jankovic fans.

i honestly don't see this as a serious thread, but more of a case in point for jelena in the other thread. it's obvious that both jelena and venus are better players on clay overall. franny was just able to capitalise on the good draw.

bandabou
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:01 PM
well...RG is RG, what can one say?! Sorry Vee!

Hian
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:09 PM
Francesca.
But please stop making these stupid polls. You seem stupid.

Direwolf
Jun 10th, 2010, 03:54 PM
But you said Schiavone is greater than jankovic because she has the major:weirdo:

greater player
Venus... 7slams>1slam

if you do realise...
Roland Garros is not the only event thats played on Clay...

Venus and Schiavone are both born on the same month and year...

who has more clay wins?
clay titles??

JJ Expres
Jun 10th, 2010, 04:12 PM
greater player
Venus... 7slams>1slam

if you do realise...
Roland Garros is not the only event thats played on Clay...

Venus and Schiavone are both born on the same month and year...

who has more clay wins?
clay titles??

who has more titles jelena or schiavone?
you don't see name of the topic?who is greater on clay....

sky20748
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:04 PM
And your English isn't? But I see you're also a Venus fan, that explains your opinion :p

:wavey:Boy bye....:lol:

sky20748
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:08 PM
Sooooo dumb, Venus is my answer. One tournament doesn't define greatness on a surface. Right before the french Venus rolled over Schiavone, on clay.........

:bounce:Thank you very much. some idiots don't seem to realize this. Especially this Matt character. anywhoo thanks because you said it perfectly. ONe tournament does not define greatness. geez

Matt01
Jun 10th, 2010, 05:14 PM
:bounce:Thank you very much. some idiots don't seem to realize this. Especially this Matt character.


You can call me Matt01, that is my username here.
Oh, and I report rude people who insult me, so stay nice. Thanks.

winone23
Jun 10th, 2010, 10:02 PM
Venus is greater on clay than Fran.

sky20748
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:33 AM
You can call me Matt01, that is my username here.
Oh, and I report rude people who insult me, so stay nice. Thanks.

:lol:awwwwwwwwww :wavey:

sky20748
Jun 11th, 2010, 05:35 AM
You can call me Matt01, that is my username here.
Oh, and I report rude people who insult me, so stay nice. Thanks.

Sooooo that means you will be reporting yourself then right. :wavey: