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WTAtennisfan15
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Who is the best player of the decade?

The 2nd Law
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Oh, I don't know, I heard there was this girl, Serena, who's pretty good......

JJ Expres
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:49 PM
for me is JH (i don't like her at all but....)

WTAtennisfan15
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:51 PM
You can also vote in that poll.

Kworb
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:52 PM
What decade? The 2010s? Well, Venus is leading the race this year, with Jankovic close behind.

WTAtennisfan15
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:53 PM
I ment -00 decade!

Donny
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:55 PM
What decade? The 2010s? Well, Venus is leading the race this year, with Jankovic close behind.

The decade does not end until 2011.

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:58 PM
That one American chick who, from 2000-2009, won:
Fed Cup
Olympic Doubles (x2)
Career Grand Slam (singles & doubles [completed CGS in doubles, had won FO in 1999])
Won 4 singles majors in a row (10 total)
Won 8 doubled majors
Reached 5 straight major finals and won 5 of 6.
Won Miami a record-tying 5 times in 7 years


I can't remember her name though :scratch:

Olórin
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:59 PM
Is this poll necessary?

What's with all the poll spamming? :confused:

JJ Expres
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:00 PM
1 January 2001 -31 December 2010 so we are still in...

Kworb
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:03 PM
The decade does not end until 2011.

Not true. A decade is an arbitrary period of 10 years. Generally we use it for 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, etc. so the period in question is 2000-2009.

The 2nd Law
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:08 PM
That one American chick who, from 2000-2009, won:
Fed Cup
Olympic Doubles (x2)
Career Grand Slam (singles & doubles [completed CGS in doubles, had won FO in 1999])
Won 4 singles majors in a row (10 total)
Won 8 doubled majors
Reached 5 straight major finals and won 5 of 6.
Won Miami a record-tying 5 times in 7 years


I can't remember her name though :scratch:

LOL yeah, I think her name is Serena? She's pretty good. Maybe she is the best of the decade? :confused: :lol:

Not true. A decade is an arbitrary period of 10 years. Generally we use it for 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, etc. so the period in question is 2000-2009.

I actually agree with Kworb!

Shvedbarilescu
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
A couple of years ago before she retired one could have made a very decent case for Henin, although I would probably have opted for Serena by a whisker but now the question is no longer even worthy of debate. Serena is now so head and shoulders above everyone else over the last decade that honestly it would require someone very biased not to acknowledge it.

Carotastrophe
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
For a period of time it was Justine, and then it was Serena.. Lindsay and Maria can not be forgotten thou.

Pops Maellard
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Serena, then Justine, then Venus.

*JR*
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:13 PM
'00-'09 (the way the media defines the decade, "technically correct" or not) obviously Serena. If tennis differentiated by size like boxing does, Justine would have succeeded Marti as the equivalent of "Welterweight Champion of the World" but of course that's not the case. Under the existing system (divided only by gender) you get:

1960's - Margaret Court
1970's - Chris Evert
1980's - Martina Navratilova
1990's - Steffi Graf
2000's - Serena Williams

tennisbum79
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:13 PM
I can't believe Venus has no vote

Olórin
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:15 PM
For a period of time it was Justine, and then it was Serena.. Lindsay and Maria can not be forgotten thou.

It was always Serena. Since 2003 she has had more slams than any other active player, since 2003 she has been the only player to have won all four slams (at once), since 2003 she has been the player who won most slams as #1 (i.e. most dominant).

Henin came close-ish in 2007 though.

Maria was never in contention and Lindsay's greatest successes came in the 90's!

Chorophyll
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Serena, then Henin.

Donny
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Not true. A decade is an arbitrary period of 10 years. Generally we use it for 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, etc. so the period in question is 2000-2009.

So why'd you decide to start from 2010? Why not from 2009? Or 2008? Or 2000?

Uranus
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Serena Williams.

Davenport and Hingis shouldn't be in the list if Clijsters isn't.

Kworb
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:31 PM
So why'd you decide to start from 2010? Why not from 2009? Or 2008? Or 2000?
Cause that's how we've always defined decades. It's not like "21st century" where the 21st period of 100 years starts in 2001. We speak of the "90s" because it's each year that starts with (nineteen)-ninety, or the third digit is a 9. The 2000s, 00s or noughties have 0 as third digit.

toby345
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Brie Whitehead and it's not even close.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:36 PM
Why are Davenport and Hingis on this list?

1)Serena


2)Justine
3)Venus

4)Maria
5)Capriati

Ferg
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:37 PM
:scared:

Donny
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Cause that's how we've always defined decades. It's not like "21st century" where the 21st period of 100 years starts in 2001. We speak of the "90s" because it's each year that starts with (nineteen)-ninety, or the third digit is a 9. The 2000s, 00s or noughties have 0 as third digit.

Then why'd you pick Hingis?

Kworb
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:53 PM
Then why'd you pick Hingis?

Cause I always vote for Hingis in threads like these :inlove:

But it's obvious Serena is without question the greatest and most accomplished player of the 00s :shrug:

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:55 PM
So why'd you decide to start from 2010? Why not from 2009? Or 2008? Or 2000?
Seriously? :unsure:

Most media outlets refer to decades in 10s of years (a la 60s ,80s, 30s, etc.). I undetstand that you disagree, but come on.

Beat
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:36 PM
sorry, but this poll is definitely unnecessary. it's quite clear who was the best. i would love to be able to argue about it, but it's not possible.

MistyGrey
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:40 PM
Serena. No two opinions about it.
But I voted for JH, just to make it more fun! plus I am biased. ;)

dsanders06
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:44 PM
It was always Serena. Since 2003 she has had more slams than any other active player, since 2003 she has been the only player to have won all four slams (at once), since 2003 she has been the player who won most slams as #1 (i.e. most dominant).

Henin came close-ish in 2007 though.

Maria was never in contention and Lindsay's greatest successes came in the 90's!

At the end of 2007, both Serena and Henin had won 7 Slams in the decade. So, if this poll was at the end of 2007, Justine's extra YEC, Olympic Gold, greater number of titles and more weeks at #1 would've put her ahead.

As it is, though, Serena.

SerenaSlam
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:46 PM
this is sooo unnecessary its only going to show haters. it is by far clear who the best is. and she has been around in 2 different decades...

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:46 PM
At the end of 2007, both Serena and Henin had won 7 Slams in the decade. So, if this poll was at the end of 2007, Justine's extra YEC, Olympic Gold, greater number of titles and more weeks at #1 would've put her ahead.

As it is, though, Serena.

Nah, I think holding all 4 slams at the same time trumps any of that extra shit Justine did!

Olórin
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:48 PM
At the end of 2007, both Serena and Henin had won 7 Slams in the decade. So, if this poll was at the end of 2007, Justine's extra YEC, Olympic Gold, greater number of titles and more weeks at #1 would've put her ahead.


Then, as usual, you are wrong. Her failure to win Wimbledon puts her precisely nowhere when it comes to being the best. There is the "best" [i.e. the one who wins everything] then everyone else.

I guess second best does get a plate or something...

dsanders06
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:56 PM
Then, as usual, you are wrong. Her failure to win Wimbledon puts her precisely nowhere when it comes to being the best. There is the "best" [i.e. the one who wins everything] then everyone else.

I guess second best does get a plate or something...

Again, though, Justine had a superior overall record at Wimbledon than Serena at RG, so try again... :wavey:

Btw, was I also wrong on Thursday when I predicted Schiavone to win, which you scoffed at? :p

gc-spurs
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Again, though, Justine had a superior overall record at Wimbledon than Serena at RG, so try again... :wavey:

Btw, was I also wrong on Thursday when I predicted Schiavone to win, which you scoffed at? :p


Who cares, still no title.

So, I hear this Serena chick is kinda good?

John.
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Why is this even a poll :lol:

Serena

Serenita
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Nah, I think holding all 4 slams at the same time trumps any of that extra shit Justine did!

Basicly

Again, though, Justine had a superior overall record at Wimbledon than Serena at RG, so try again... :wavey:

Btw, was I also wrong on Thursday when I predicted Schiavone to win, which you scoffed at? :p

No title :shrug:

WTAtennisfan15
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:21 PM
I know that some of you would like to have Clijsters or Sharapova in this poll, but this is about THE BEST OF ALL and Serena is so dominant in this poll that it makes everyone realize whos the #1 player in the world.
Of course with all the respect for other players too!

SerenaSlam
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:24 PM
Again, though, Justine had a superior overall record at Wimbledon than Serena at RG, so try again... :wavey:

Btw, was I also wrong on Thursday when I predicted Schiavone to win, which you scoffed at? :p

i mean im just trying to figure out if you are being serious. a serena and henin comparison. i mean i could understand if you were comparing venus or something. everything with them is almost similar. but serena? a woman who has almost won every slam twice compared to a woman who retired and is just now back on tour. at one point she was DONE...she shouldn't even be a discussion IMO its a big ass insult

pascal77
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:24 PM
Serena Williams

Gdsimmons
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:28 PM
This lady named Serena

pascal77
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:39 PM
This poll is totally unnecessary, for all of us know this is a poll about who has won most of slams during the ten

years, so Serena williams definitely.

dsanders06
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:41 PM
i mean im just trying to figure out if you are being serious. a serena and henin comparison. i mean i could understand if you were comparing venus or something. everything with them is almost similar. but serena? a woman who has almost won every slam twice compared to a woman who retired and is just now back on tour. at one point she was DONE...she shouldn't even be a discussion IMO its a big ass insult

I said Justine was ahead at the end of 2007... when both had 7 Slams in this decade each.

Justine is considered by almost everyone to be ahead of Venus btw.

miffedmax
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:45 PM
Elena Dementieva.

I think we know by now that...

1) this choice is not the result of a rational thought process
2) arguing with me is pointless

dsanders06
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:47 PM
Elena Dementieva.

I think we know by now that...

1) this choice is not the result of a rational thought process
2) arguing with me is pointless

Sharapova's haircut circa early 2008 trumps her on the bangs front though. ;)

miffedmax
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:47 PM
At the end of 2007, both Serena and Henin had won 7 Slams in the decade. So, if this poll was at the end of 2007, Justine's extra YEC, Olympic Gold, greater number of titles and more weeks at #1 would've put her ahead.

As it is, though, Serena.

As my daddy says "If if if... if a frog had wings, he wouldn't whomp his ass every time he lands."

dsanders06
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:48 PM
As my daddy says "If if if... if a frog had wings, he wouldn't whomp his ass every time he lands."

Indeed... like I said, the answer to the poll now is clearly Serena. I'm just saying that, were this late 2007 and the question was asked, the answer would be Justine.

bandabou
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:53 PM
:lol: dsanders...is he really for real? juju is good, great even...but 4 majors in a row should be the tie-breaker no?

spiritedenergy
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:56 PM
irrelevant poll, we all know who she is:o

and why are Hingis and Davenport included and not Clijsters?

debby
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:59 PM
I wish it was Justine.

Obviously not.

dsanders06
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:00 PM
:lol: dsanders...is he really for real? juju is good, great even...but 4 majors in a row should be the tie-breaker no?

Whywould that be the tiebreaker when in late 2007, (a) Justine had a better overall record at Wimbledon than Serena had at RG, and (b) Justine was way way WAY ahead of Serena in Tier One titles, lower-level tiles, YECs, Olympic Golds and weeks at #1? You really think the fact Serena was abole to win one specific match (an RG final) overturns all THAT? If so, in line with the other thread, do you believe Schiavone is now more successful than Dementieva?

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:04 PM
Indeed... like I said, the answer to the poll now is clearly Serena. I'm just saying that, were this late 2007 and the question was asked, the answer would be Justine.
But it's not and it isn't, so cease the trolling.

The answer in this thread is CLEAR. The only place it's not is in the mind of TF Serena haters.

spiritedenergy
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Oh sorry, silly me forgetting again that Serena is the queen, and circumstances and standards always bend to suit whatever suits her in a particular scenario. Indeed, she was the REAL best player of 2006, because we all know the biggest achievement on offer that year was beating Anastasia Myskina.

you are so bitter:lol: please sit down

debby
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:13 PM
Whywould that be the tiebreaker when in late 2007, (a) Justine had a better overall record at Wimbledon than Serena had at RG, and (b) Justine was way way WAY ahead of Serena in Tier One titles, lower-level tiles, YECs, Olympic Golds and weeks at #1? You really think the fact Serena was abole to win one specific match (an RG final) overturns all THAT? If so, in line with the other thread, do you believe Schiavone is now more successful than Dementieva?

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it-girl
Jun 7th, 2010, 05:32 PM
Serena, then Venus, then Justine. Serena has more slams, Venus has won Wimbledon more than any active player on tour & has been in several finals, she also has the most titles of any active player & has helped women to get equal prize money & has also demanded fair treatment for women & certain players when they have been mistreated. A great player causes change for the good both on & off court & for this reason Venus was almost my #1 choice. The only reason I chose Serena was because she has won more slams.

I also chose Serena & Venus for 1 & 2 because they have won several slam titles in doubles also. They have also won gold twice in olympics, Venus also won singles gold once.

Justine is my 3rd pick because she has the same amount of slams as Venus but not as many titles, they both have a gold medal but there are some shady aspects to Henin's career that tarnish some of her accomplishments, even without the shady aspects Venus would still be # 2 based on her overall success.

Stamp Paid
Jun 7th, 2010, 05:46 PM
I can't believe Venus has no votehttp://i45.tinypic.com/35mque0.gif

Delfii
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:03 PM
1st Serena 2nd Justine 3rd Venus :worship:

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Serena, then Venus, then Justine. Serena has more slams, Venus has won Wimbledon more than any active player on tour & has been in several finals, she also has the most titles of any active player & has helped women to get equal prize money & has also demanded fair treatment for women & certain players when they have been mistreated. A great player causes change for the good both on & off court & for this reason Venus was almost my #1 choice. The only reason I chose Serena was because she has won more slams.

I also chose Serena & Venus for 1 & 2 because they have won several slam titles in doubles also. They have also won gold twice in olympics, Venus also won singles gold once.

Justine is my 3rd pick because she has the same amount of slams as Venus but not as many titles, they both have a gold medal but there are some shady aspects to Henin's career that tarnish some of her accomplishments, even without the shady aspects Venus would still be # 2 based on her overall success.

I will say, for all of her sportsmanship woes, and her (to some) loathsome 'personality', she has accomplished some AMAZING feats as a tennis player, and by virtue of the fact that she spent almost 2 more years than Venus as the #1 ranked player in the world, I'd have to inch her above Venus (if we're just talking about singles....if we're incorporating everything, or even using doubles as *bonus points*, then Venus over Justine by a BIT).
SINGLES:
Justine - 117 weeks @ #1, 7 majors [(3/4) 1 - AO (1-1 in Finals), 4 - FO (4-0 in Finals), 0 - W (0-2 in Finals), 2 - US (2-1 in Finals)], 1 Olympic Gold, 1 Fed Cup
Venus - 11 weeks @ #1, 7 majors [(2/4) 0 - AO (0-1 in Finals), 0 - FO (0-1 in Finals), 5 - W (5-3 in Finals), 2 - US (2-2 in Finals), 1 Olmypic Gold, 1 Fed Cup

Justine's been to each Final at least two times, but Venus has won Wimbledon 5 times. (apples and oranges :shrug: ), but Venus 2 fistfuls of doubles majors :shrug:, 2 olympic gold medals, and Venus has the longest winning streak of the decade. (35 to Henin's 32...both won 6 titles and 2 majors en route)

hurricanejeanne
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Serena? :p

miffedmax
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:42 PM
But it's not and it isn't, so cease the trolling.

The answer in this thread is CLEAR. The only place it's not is in the mind of TF Serena haters.

I'm not a hater. I am a visitor from a parallel universe where a parallel Elena Dementieva happens to have won a mind-blowing 27 slams.

One for every World Series the parallel Cubs have won since 1969, by remarkable coincidence.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:43 PM
I'm not a hater. I am a visitor from a parallel universe where a parallel Elena Dementieva happens to have won a mind-blowing 27 slams.

One for every World Series the parallel Cubs have won since 1969, by remarkable coincidence.

Put the glass down :hug:

miffedmax
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Put the glass down :hug:

You're right. The Cubs thing really was pushing it, wasn't it?

gazeboes2004
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Why is this even a question? It's pretty obvious Serena has distanced herself from the pack.

Hian
Jun 7th, 2010, 07:32 PM
Serena

MegaDethly
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:25 PM
The correct answer to this thread is:

Venus > Hen

bandabou
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:50 PM
Whywould that be the tiebreaker when in late 2007, (a) Justine had a better overall record at Wimbledon than Serena had at RG, and (b) Justine was way way WAY ahead of Serena in Tier One titles, lower-level tiles, YECs, Olympic Golds and weeks at #1? You really think the fact Serena was abole to win one specific match (an RG final) overturns all THAT? If so, in line with the other thread, do you believe Schiavone is now more successful than Dementieva?

Alassss...but the decade didn't stop at '07 no? :lol: You keep blah blah about the record at Wimbledon vs RG. Serena WON, WON, WON RG. Basta...that's it.

And who are you comparing with Schiavone? Serena ain't no Schiavone...so drop that talk.

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:52 PM
I'm not a hater. I am a visitor from a parallel universe where a parallel Elena Dementieva happens to have won a mind-blowing 27 slams.

One for every World Series the parallel Cubs have won since 1969, by remarkable coincidence.
Max I, of course, wasn't talking about you.

I'm fully aware that you're merely visiting us from ED Universe where there have been NO other slam winners but her, and treatises on the loveliness of her bangs are required reading. ;)

OsloErik
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:53 PM
You mean the decade that just passed? The one we had all the polls about during the off season? Identical to this one?

Answer was an is the same: Serena. By a mile.

Donny
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:58 PM
At the end of 2007, both Serena and Henin had won 7 Slams in the decade. So, if this poll was at the end of 2007, Justine's extra YEC, Olympic Gold, greater number of titles and more weeks at #1 would've put her ahead.

As it is, though, Serena.

And had you created this poll in February of 2007, the answer would have been Serena. See how fun it is manipulating stats in our favor?

dsanders06
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:59 PM
Alassss...but the decade didn't stop at '07 no? :lol: You keep blah blah about the record at Wimbledon vs RG. Serena WON, WON, WON RG. Basta...that's it.

And who are you comparing with Schiavone? Serena ain't no Schiavone...so drop that talk.

Nope, it didn't stop in 07. But if this poll WAS being held in late 2007, who would you have voted for?

And the Schiavone-Dementieva compariso shows how ridiculous it is to say wining a Slam is everything

Rix643
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:01 PM
Navratilova.

Rix643
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:01 PM
(Can't help it, I'm in a Navratilova-mood today)

young_gunner913
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:05 PM
Nope, it didn't stop in 07. But if this poll WAS being held in late 2007, who would you have voted for?

And the Schiavone-Dementieva compariso shows how ridiculous it is to say wining a Slam is everything

If your mother had balls, she'd be your father. What ifs are fun.

The fact is, the poll isnt asking about just 07, its asking about the decade. So if you'd like to just talk about 07, then go ahead and make another poll. And btw, winning a slam is the pinnacle of the sport so yeah, it is everything.

terjw
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:14 PM
A couple of years ago before she retired one could have made a very decent case for Henin, although I would probably have opted for Serena by a whisker but now the question is no longer even worthy of debate. Serena is now so head and shoulders above everyone else over the last decade that honestly it would require someone very biased not to acknowledge it.

Yep I totally agree.

bandabou
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:15 PM
Nope, it didn't stop in 07. But if this poll WAS being held in late 2007, who would you have voted for?

And the Schiavone-Dementieva compariso shows how ridiculous it is to say wining a Slam is everything

:lol: Then why just '07? Make it at the end of '03, no?!

The Schiavone comparison is just ridiculous...Elena D nor Schiavone are comparison to Serena. They are just nice players. Serena is all-time great. When you win just ONE major then people can look and say it isn't the end all.

But Serena won them ALL and all but RG MULTIPLE times, so what are we really talking about here?

Mina Vagante
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:21 PM
Serena :lol:

Inger67
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:23 AM
Didn't we beat this topic to death already? Oh yeah at the end of last year when the decade actually ended! :rolleyes:

DA FOREHAND
Jun 8th, 2010, 02:27 AM
A couple of years ago before she retired one could have made a very decent case for Henin, although I would probably have opted for Serena by a whisker but now the question is no longer even worthy of debate. Serena is now so head and shoulders above everyone else over the last decade that honestly it would require someone very biased not to acknowledge it.

Thos must be some big ass whickers!!!!!:tape::wavey:




Serena Williams with no body in the rearview mirror

miffedmax
Jun 8th, 2010, 02:58 AM
Max I, of course, wasn't talking about you.

I'm fully aware that you're merely visiting us from ED Universe where there have been NO other slam winners but her, and treatises on the loveliness of her bangs are required reading. ;)

:lol: True. Sad, but true. :lol:

starin
Jun 8th, 2010, 03:49 AM
I always forget Serena won her first slam in 1999. seems like ages ago.
but yes the title belongs to ra ra Rena!

OsloErik
Jun 8th, 2010, 05:12 AM
I'm not a hater. I am a visitor from a parallel universe where a parallel Elena Dementieva happens to have won a mind-blowing 27 slams.

One for every World Series the parallel Cubs have won since 1969, by remarkable coincidence.

The CUBS? THE CUBS????

Come on, it's got to be the Giants.

N.B.: For any baseball fans out there, I preface this by saying I left America the same year Robby Thompson retired, so Barry Bonds was still a good, upstanding citizen with the ability to steal bases and run in the outfield.

But Max, I feel Giants, Cubs, and Indians fans can all feel pain every year. You may have the longest drought, but we're not doing too much better. It's like comparing Aussie's at the Australian Open and Brits at Wimbledon.

Apoleb
Jun 8th, 2010, 05:21 AM
We already established that Maria Sharapova is the best at her best.