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tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:55 PM
Justine's motivation to coming back to tennis and starting her "second" career is to win Wimbledon.
IF she does not win Wimbledon, will we see a re-evaluation of her decision to come back?

Or it will depend on how far she goes in the draw.

If she reaches round of 16 or above, she could stick around for one more try.
If she fails to reach round of 16, she may decide to re-evaluate whether to stick around and give it another year or surprise everyone and hang it up righ there.

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:57 PM
Justine's motivation to coming back to tennis and starting her "second" career is to win Wimbledon.
IF she does not win Wimbledon, will we see a re-evaluation of her decision to come back?

Or it will depend on how far she goes in the draw.

If she reaches round of 16 or above, she could stick around for one more try.
If she fails to reach round of 16, she may decide to re-evaluate whether to stick around and give it another year or surprise everyone and hang it up righ there.

I think she'll definitely re-evaluate, then decide to give it one more go next year.

cellophane
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:58 PM
No. She wants to win again, and I'm sure she is prepared to work harder if she doesn't succeed. Plus, I'm sure it's not just about winning Wimbledon for her... she wants to win other slams as well.

Tennis Ball
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:05 PM
She came back because of her passion for the game, it's her profession.

meteor
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:08 PM
well, she'll have to, because she's not winning it. don't be surprised if henin's "second career" comes to a halt without any additional slams. that's exactly what happened to hingis, who came back with huge expectations, only to discover that the game had evolved in her absence.

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:20 PM
It looks like Justine has re-calibrated her expetation after RG loss


Beaten Henin keeps her Wimbledon expectations low

By DPA, IANS

May 31st, 2010

PARIS - Justine Henin said Monday she will take a day to digest her first French Open defeat in six years, with the former number one adding that she would not set any unrealistic goals for Wimbledon.

Henin lost her fourth-round match at Roland Garros 2-6, 6-1, 6-4 to Australian Samantha Stosur, who beat the four-time champion in Henin’s first return to the event since 2007.

The former number one quit the game in May, 2008, but made a u-turn and returned to the WTA in January, reaching the finals of her first two events (Brisbane and the Australian Open) and winning a title last month on clay in Stuttgart.

“Of course it is disappointing, it’s never easy to lose, and especially in this kind of situation,” said the seven-time Grand Slam winner. “I just wanted so much that the adventure could keep going.”
“I wasn’t at my best today. Samantha was the best player on the court, she took her chances, the opportunities.”

Henin said that her next goal will be to prepare for the grass season, but refused to detail just yet her possible schedule outside of Wimbledon starting in three weeks.
It is the only one of the four majors that the 27-year-old has not won, losing finals there in 2001 and 2006.

“In terms of what I’m gonna play before Wimbledon, I still have no idea about my plan. We will discuss this in the next two days.”
“I want to go as far as possible over there. But in 2010, it’s probably a bit too early to say, Well, it’s going to be my goal to win it. There are so many things I have to work on.”

The Belgian said she was not mentally crushed by her Paris loss. “I was really here to play match after match, and that’s what I did.”
“I keep some positive things from this tournament, I never considered myself as the favorite. If I could win have won one more match or two more matches, then you can start dreaming.”

“But that is not the case anymore.”




Source: http://blog.taragana.com/sports/2010/05/31/beaten-henin-keeps-her-wimbledon-expectations-low-106935/

Gdsimmons
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:24 PM
IF?? Ok ;);).

Matt01
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:26 PM
Henin is realistic, she knows that this year will probably be too early to win Wimbledon.

Meteor: :weirdo:

Vanity Bonfire
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Depends what Kim does.

TuxedoSlam
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Justine said from the start of her comeback that 2010 will be a year of transition: time to learn and re-adjust. An early loss at Wimbledon in a year in which she's trying to pick up her old tennis self won't change her mind. OTOH she comes across as someone who's re-evaluating herself constantly so who knows how her second career will develop.

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:30 PM
Depends what Kim does.
Please don't go there:)

stino
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:51 PM
Depends what Kim does.


SO true!!

pierce85
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:57 PM
SO true!!

Thank god she didn't follow kim in the number of slams won :kiss:

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:59 PM
Please don't make this about Kim vs. Justine

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:05 PM
No because she knows she won't win Wimbledon this year.

pierce85
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:06 PM
To answer the question, who knows? Tennis is an unpredictable sport and no one can be sure about anything, if justine doesn't win wimbledon this year (which is likely) she has at least two more years to discover what's wrong with her game and improve it to win wimbledon, it's not like she's not an excellent grass-courter with two finals.

I'm not surprised by the answers in this thread, though. It's every WTF poster's favourite habit to predict the downfall of every player who's not their favourite

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:17 PM
I'm not surprised by the answers in this thread, though. It's every WTF poster's favourite habit to predict the downfall of every player who's not their favourite
That maybe true, but that is not my intent in this particualr thread.
This thread is based on what is part of Justine motivation for coming back.
Look in earlier post in this thread, there is an article where Henin herself address this.

Interesting that you said that, since your first post contradicts what you are trying to denounce.

pierce85
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:24 PM
That maybe true, but that is not my intent in this particualr thread.
This thread is based on what is part of Justine motivation for coming back.
Look in earlier post in this thread, there is an article where Henin herself address this.

Interesting that you said that, since your first post contradicts what you are trying to denounce.

Firstly, i wasn't referring to you.
Secondly, my first post doesn't contradict what i'm trying to denounce. I just stated a fact( that justine hasn't followed kim in the number of slams). I didn't predict the downfall of kim , who is an exclellent player and has more possibilities to win a slam this year than justine :wavey:

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Firstly, i wasn't referring to you.
Secondly, my first post doesn't contradict what i'm trying to denounce. I just stated a fact( that justine hasn't followed kim in the number of slams). I didn't predict the downfall of kim , who is an exclellent player and has more possibilities to win a slam this year than justine :wavey:
You may not have predicted the downfal of Kim, but as you know, there is a back story that says Justine came back is out of jealousy for Kim.
Making that comment would re-ignite that controversy and eventually derail a legitimate, newsworthy thread.

LeonHart
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:42 PM
Winning Wimbleon in your first year back....that's a bit rough. She knows - after not even winning RG - it's going to be a tough road ahead. If she retires after not winning Wimbledon then she's a quitter - but I don't think that will happen ;)

bandabou
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:49 PM
If that was her motivation to return, she might have as well just stay retired imo.

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:56 PM
She came back because of her passion for the game, it's her profession.

Yes. Because if she actually quit, so then why would she come back? She knew she would start from zero, so why she would bother to work hard ? She knows she can lose to anybody. She lost that motivation, she found it again. That's it.

Henin is realistic, she knows that this year will probably be too early to win Wimbledon.

Meteor: :weirdo:

That's the truth.

Depends what Kim does.

:yawn: Justine was very happy for Kim when she won the US Open and now they get along well.

Justine said from the start of her comeback that 2010 will be a year of transition: time to learn and re-adjust. An early loss at Wimbledon in a year in which she's trying to pick up her old tennis self won't change her mind. OTOH she comes across as someone who's re-evaluating herself constantly so who knows how her second career will develop.

:worship:


Please don't go there:)

Unfortunately, some trolls will go there.

Thank god she didn't follow kim in the number of slams won :kiss:

:rolls: :happy:

No because she knows she won't win Wimbledon this year.

At least, your girl won't be alone in despair. :kiss:

You may not have precited the downfal of Kim, but as you know, there is a back story that says Justine came back out of jealousy for Kim.
Making that comment would re-ignite that controversy and eventually derail a legitimate, newsworthy thread.

Errrr. No. She was thinking to tennis during RG, she saw Federer winning it, she picked her racket up and started training again. I am sure at 100% because there are some posts in HHQ where we were talking about her come back BEFORE Kim's win. No jealousy at all.
Actually, I think unsubconsciously she likes playing with Kim around. I expect her to retire when Kim will retire.


Anyway it's not the main subject of the thread. She won't change her plans, she wants to win Wimbledon yes, but IMO she wants to play tennis. She has lost her self-confidence, and when we know how she rates the Williamses especially Venus on grass, I can't imagine her thinking " I AM GOING TO KICK VENUS' ASS !!!!1111" . Heck no.

I know Jujutards won't like at all what I am going to say : Justine won't play Eastbourne. She intended to play there. Kim and Stosur will be playing there. Why did she choose Rosmalen (S'Hertogenbosch) instead ? The last time she played there was 2003 (retired in final, she was leading 7-6 0-3 against Kim) . In 2004 she didn't play any grass tournament, in 2005 she thought she could win without any prepration, then she played Eastbourne in 2006 and 2007 (she won there twice).

I think she really lacks of self-confidence right now if not she would go to Eastbourne, but still she said she won't give up. She will fight, she will stay.

DimaDinosaur
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:02 PM
she should re-evaluate because she's not gonna win winbledon. maybe if serena, sharapova, and venus retire and/or get injured

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:07 PM
she should re-evaluate because she's not gonna win winbledon. maybe if serena, sharapova, and venus retire and/or get injured

Justine can beat Sharapova on grass.

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Originally Posted by tennisbum79 http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images2007/buttons/lastpost.gif (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=17929412#post17929412)
You may not have precited the downfal of Kim, but as you know, there is a back story that says Justine came back out of jealousy for Kim.
Making that comment would re-ignite that controversy and eventually derail a legitimate, newsworthy thread.


Errrr. No. She was thinking to tennis during RG, she saw Federer winning it, she picked her racket up and started training again. I am sure at 100% because there are some posts in HHQ where we were talking about her come back BEFORE Kim's win. No jealousy at all.
I did not say the story was true or untrue.
I am simply stating that story has been floating around since Henin comeback rumor started and intensified after she held her comeback press conference.
Actually, I think subconsciously she likes playing with Kim around. I expect her to retire when Kim will retire..
Hmmm... spooky:):devil:

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:11 PM
Oh sorry, I misunderstood your post.

And I forgot "un" in subconsciously :p I edited my post ;)

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:19 PM
Oh sorry, I misunderstood your post.

And I forgot "un" in subconsciously :p I edited my post ;)
No problem.

But even with the correction, it is still spooky:lol:

buckyohare
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Justine won't wimbledon, she still need match rhythm(entirely her/Carlos' doing, taking months off after AO lol) but she won't change plans because her team has convinced themselves that this year is a transition year.

Grade A BullSh1t imo. She is not getting any younger, she can't afford to have a transition year. Don't know what they were smoking when they planned her comeback, her whole scheduling this year is an utter joke.

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:24 PM
No problem.

But even with the correction, it is still spooky:lol:

Why? :lol:

Buckyophare : so true. They are acting like it's a transition year but still, Justine is playing a few of tournament only like she could go far at each time. Not very smart.

buckyohare
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:31 PM
Why? :lol:

Buckyophare : so true. They are acting like it's a transition year but still, Justine is playing a few of tournament only like she could go far at each time. Not very smart.

They should evaluate how Kim Clijsters won the USO. She kept playing and playing and losing until she was fully ready. Maybe her team was deluded when Justine reached the AO final. But they were wrong. Nearly all her matches, despite some brilliant points here and there, were utter painful to the eye.

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:31 PM
Buckyophare and Trollby , you seem to be very familiar with her inncer circle.

Besides Carlos(and Henin), who else on her team is involved the decision making process about future plan since she came back?

Apoleb
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:38 PM
Interesting question. Her game regressed since Brisbane. Panic must be ensuing in the Henin camp. Will her game prove drastically more effective on grass? I doubt that, but she has over two weeks to sort her stuff out.

buckyohare
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:39 PM
Tennisbum, I know nothing about her inner circle. But whoever is involved in the decision making process should be fired.

buckyohare
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:40 PM
Interesting question. Her game regressed since Brisbane. Panic must be ensuing in the Henin camp. Will her game prove drastically more effective on grass? I doubt that, but she has over two weeks to sort her stuff out.

She has 2 weeks, and what did she do ? Take a week off, ridiculous.

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:42 PM
They should evaluate how Kim Clijsters won the USO. She kept playing and playing and losing until she was fully ready. Maybe her team was deluded when Justine reached the AO final. But they were wrong. Nearly all her matches, despite some brilliant points here and there, were utter painful to the eye.

She lost to Safina (was so pissed after) then to Jankovic she used to beat all the time (she was pissed too 7-5 in third :tape: ) ... She was not like " oh it happens " blabla, no, she worked harder. Also a matter of mindset.

To be fair, Serena is harder in final than in SF, and she served slighty better at AO '10. Not big difference between Kim and Justine, only the mindset was different.

Tennisbum : Only Carlos. It annoys me so much, she sacked her medical team, actually only Carlos stays. She has been working with him for 14 years, I am sure she should switch coach or to hire another one to work with Carlos (not sure if it would work).
I mean, at one moment, Carlos thought the kick serve was useless (but Justine still tried it, it goes straight to the hitting zone of tall players so useless against WS, Stosur, Sharapova...) or he even wants her to go to the net all the time although it is not her natural game.
I don't know if it's true but I heard that Carlos asked Justine to win her grasscourt matchs in one hour. :tape:

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:43 PM
She has 2 weeks, and what did she do ? Take a week off, ridiculous.

I wanted her to play Birmingham then to have a week off (to practise at Wimbledon) and then Wimbledon. Nothing. :rolleyes: Eastbourne was dreadful but Rosmalen is worse since it shows her lack of confidence. :help: x 100

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:44 PM
She has 2 weeks, and what did she do ? Take a week off, ridiculous.
Maybe she needs a rest.

She did mention somewhere that she is not at her physical peak yet, so maybe she want to save energy and be ready for Wimbledon

delicatecutter
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Depends what Kim does.

:rolls:

I wouldn't be surprised if she loses early based on her current form. Other than beating Goatniacki, her comeback hasn't exactly been a success in my eyes. Maybe it's time for her to call it a career (again). The grind seems to be getting to her.

buckyohare
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:50 PM
Maybe she needs a rest.

She did mention somewhere that she is not at her physical peak yet, so maybe she want to save energy and be ready for Wimbledon

She's gotten her rest after her early French Open elimination. Should be playing Birmingham, and evaluate from there.
Now I don't even know what they want with Rosmalen. Go deep, and she won't have enough energy for Wimbledon. Go home early against clowns, and she'll be a mess mentally.

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:51 PM
Maybe she needs a rest.

She did mention somewhere that she is not at her physical peak yet, so maybe she want to save energy and be ready for Wimbledon

She is always tired, she is never at her physical peak, it's getting tiresome. She has played what ? 5 matchs since STUTTGART (end of April), a professional athlete should not say this kind of things.

:rolls:

I wouldn't be surprised if she loses early based on her current form. Other than beating Goatniacki, her comeback hasn't exactly been a success in my eyes. Maybe it's time for her to call it a career (again). The grind seems to be getting to her.

Please she reached a Slam final. :rolleyes: You know... it was a bit of unluck against Clijsters TWICE, and if she had returned better Serena's serve OR if Serena didn't serve well in that third set... who knows what would have happened ?

Justine could have won Brisbane, Australian Open and Miami.

I actually wonder if her domination on clay is over right now, and if she is actually better on faster courts. We will see at Wimbledon but the grass has slowed down so....

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:51 PM
I don't know if it's true but I heard that Carlos asked Justine to win her grasscourt matchs in one hour. :tape:
I find that hard to believe.
It eerily sound like something Dr Bartolli's training camp would come up with.

If that is true, what is the goal? Make her start early so that she does not fall behind early in the first set?

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:56 PM
I find that hard to believe.
It eerily sound like something Dr Bartolli's training camp would come up with.

Is that is true, what the goal? Make her start early so that she does not fall behind early in the first set?

Actually I don't know. I don't know anymore. I don't understand Justine and Carlos.
Pressure, pressure.

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Justine can beat Sharapova on grass.

I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, Justine couldn't even handle Sharapova's pace on clay:lol::lol:

Apoleb
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:57 PM
She's gotten her rest after her early French Open elimination. Should be playing Birmingham, and evaluate from there.
Now I don't even know what they want with Rosmalen. Go deep, and she won't have enough energy for Wimbledon. Go home early against clowns, and she'll be a mess mentally.

I agree. Birmingham is the right choice with her early RG exit. I think atm expectations are really low, and they will certainly reconsider after Wimbledon.

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, Justine couldn't even handle Sharapova's pace on clay:lol::lol:

Her best Slam is RG and her worst Slam is Wimbledon since a few years.... try again.

pierce85
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, Justine couldn't even handle Sharapova's pace on clay:lol::lol:

Guess what, tennis is a sport and anything can happen... Stranger things have happened than a champion beating another champion. And seriously justine isn't the favourite by any means but she will surely have her chances, venus isn't getting any younger either and any one can have an off day

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:05 PM
Her best Slam is RG and her worst Slam is Wimbledon since a few years.... try again.

If that makes you feel better. FINE.

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:07 PM
If that makes you feel better. FINE.

http://www.galeriedon.com/images_naruto/gifs_naruto/gifs_naruto_160.gif

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:10 PM
Guess what, tennis is a sport and anything can happen... Stranger things have happened than a champion beating another champion. And seriously justine isn't the favourite by any means but she will surely have her chances, venus isn't getting any younger either and any one can have an off day

As if Venus was her only rival, I believe she has more chances to beat Serena on grass than Sharapova and Venus and then comes Bartoli, Danilidou etc:lol:

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:13 PM
As if Venus was her only rival, I believe she has more chances to beat Serena on grass than Sharapova and Venus and then comes Bartoli, Danilidou etc:lol:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01430/Gisela_Dulko-2_1430133c.jpg

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Championships+Wimbledon+2008+Day+4+SYchGyWO9Iql.jp g

http://www.galeriedon.com/images_naruto/gifs_naruto/gifs_naruto_17.gif

propi
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:15 PM
She's mature enough to realize her game takes tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime to be 100 % operative again.

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:17 PM
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01430/Gisela_Dulko-2_1430133c.jpg

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Championships+Wimbledon+2008+Day+4+SYchGyWO9Iql.jp g

http://www.galeriedon.com/images_naruto/gifs_naruto/gifs_naruto_17.gif

OK I better shut up.

pierce85
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:17 PM
As if Venus was her only rival, I believe she has more chances to beat Serena on grass than Sharapova and Venus and then comes Bartoli, Danilidou etc:lol:

Please sharapova is a non entity in slams these days, anyone can beat her and the head to head doesn't strengthen your claims either...

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:24 PM
Please sharapova is a non entity in slams these days, anyone can beat her and the head to head doesn't strengthen your claims either...

Sharapova is definitely on her way back Henin OTOH :help:

Mightymirza
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:25 PM
:lol: how can she expect to wint wimbledon in her 1st year back :shrug:

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Sharapova is definitely on her way back Henin OTOH :help:

Hong Kong then AO.

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Actually I don't know. I don't know anymore. I don't understand Justine and Carlos.
Pressure, pressure.

Here is a quote from the article in earlier post.
She recognizes that there is still work to do
What do you make of the entire quote?
It seems that the team is still unsure how approach preparations for Wimbledon

“In terms of what I’m gonna play before Wimbledon, I still have no idea about my plan. We will discuss this in the next two days.”
“I want to go as far as possible over there. But in 2010, it’s probably a bit too early to say, Well, it’s going to be my goal to win it. There are so many things I have to work on.”

pierce85
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Sharapova is definitely on her way back Henin OTOH :help:

delusional much? australian open final>>>>roland garros 3d round...

tennisbum79
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Please stay on topic. This should not degenerate into Justin vs. Sharapova fight.

I hope more Justine fans join the thread and add their comments/assessment

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:40 PM
Here is a quote from the article in earlier post.
She recognizes that there is still work to do
What do you make of the entire quote?
It seems that the team is still unsure how approach preparations for Wimbledon

She wanted to play Eastbourne , she talked about it before RG. And all of a sudden, she decides to play Rosmalen? Seems pretty strange to me.

You know, I watched her match against Stosur. She was playing in first set like Schiavone did in the WHOLE match, and Stosur was not that great, she was solid at serves, sometimes with forehand? Nothing special but she improved her mental spirit, she didn't choke on mps, so I don't take anything from her. That being said, I don't understand why after she's won the first set, she changes her tactics, as if she was afraid to win??? It is stupid I know, but she doesn't go to the net anymore, she pushes the ball back, she tries nothing... she was waiting for her opponent's errors. Fortunately for her, against Pova, she woke up at the right moment ( 2-0 0-40 ) and went for her shots.
Against Stosur, she was very ups and downs. And this is what I don't understand. She used to be consistant during matchs, to find a B game, now it seems she struggles to do.

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:43 PM
delusional much? australian open final>>>>roland garros 3d round...

Well Sharapova made 1st rd then the 3rd one, Henin final then 4th rd on her best surface.

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:44 PM
Well Sharapova made 1st rd then the 3rd one, Henin final then 4th rd on her best surface.

Can you talk about Justine please? :lol:

Chorophyll
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:47 PM
OK I better shut up.

:spit:

Don't you know how to find a Daniilidou picture?

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:48 PM
Can you talk about Justine please? :lol:

I am. I don't think Justine will pass the 4th round at Wimbledon but she is aware it's way too soon to win Wimbledon, she is not ready physically and mentally. I hope she meet Venus in 4th round.:lol:

debby
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:52 PM
:spit:

Don't you know how to find a Daniilidou picture?

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2009+ASB+Classic+Day+1+3r06VCPFhuHl.jpg

De nada.

I am. I don't think Justine will pass the 4th round at Wimbledon but she is aware it's way too soon to win Wimbledon, she is not ready physically and mentally. I hope she meet Venus in 4th round.:lol:

Tu rÍves.

Serena - Sharapova 6-0 6-0 :hearts:

No seriously, I don't think Justine will ever win Wimbledon, she is a choker.

narutos
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:56 PM
No seriously, I don't think Justine will ever win Wimbledon, she is a choker.

Tu vois tu me relance sur Sharapova:lol: you know they're all the same Sharapova choked many times at FO, same goes for Serena. For Henin it's Wimbledon but who knows maybe with time and luck she will.

tennisbum79
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:01 AM
Tu vois tu me relance sur Sharapova:lol: you know they're all the same Sharapova choked many times at FO, same goes for Serena. For Henin it's Wimbledon but who knows maybe with time and luck she will.
Oublie Sharapova, fais un effort pour rester sur le sujet de Justine.
Quelle sera la decision de son equipe si elle ne gagne pas Wimbledon?

Sera la decisison differente si elle est eliminee avant les 16ieme de finales our apres?

narutos
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:03 AM
Oublie Sharapova, fais un effort pour rester sur le sujet de Justine

Tu te fous de moi c'est elle qui justement a fait une remarque sur Maria alors que je lui parlais enfin de Justine.

debby
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:05 AM
Ok ok ok I stop.

I was thinking about this, and actually Kim won the US Open because she didn't change her game, she came there with the same tactics, the same game.... whereas Justine forces herself to go to the net, to serve harder, to be uber aggressive on return games, and her swinging forehand is shorter.

Ferg
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:05 AM
I hope Marion beats her again.

Chorophyll
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:08 AM
Ok ok ok I stop.

I was thinking about this, and actually Kim won the US Open because she didn't change her game, she came there with the same tactics, the same game.... whereas Justine forces herself to go to the net, to serve harder, to be uber aggressive on return games, and her swinging forehand is shorter.

Clijsters did change her game though.

She takes the ball earlier and has more aggressive-minded court positioning.
Her serving mentality also changed from just starting the point to going for a few free points.

Matt01
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:09 AM
I hope Marion beats her again.


I'm sure you do. And what does that have to do with the topic?
Probably as much as the Pova-Henin-fight in this thread :help:

tennisbum79
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:09 AM
Tu te fous de moi c'est elle qui justement a fait une remarque sur Maria alors que je lui parlais enfin de Justine.
Non, je ne me fous pas de toi.

Je voudrais simplement que tout le monde reste sur le suject du thread.
Je crains que la discussion se degenere en une querelle entre les supportters de Justine et Maria.

C'est une tache tres delicate

VishaalMaria
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:10 AM
If she doesn't win Wimbledon, she'll pack up, go on holiday with her millions, get ready for the hardcourt season, and try for Wimbledon next year.

Slutiana
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:11 AM
I'm sure you do. And what does that have to do with the topic?
Probably as much as the Pova-Henin-fight in this thread :help:
They're doing what you do in Williams threads, Matthew!

narutos
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:14 AM
Oublie Sharapova, fais un effort pour rester sur le sujet de Justine.
Quelle sera la decision de son equipe si elle ne gagne pas Wimbledon?

Sera le decsision decisison different sie elle eliminee avant les 16ieme de finales our apres?

Like anyone said I don't understand the point of this thread it's pretty obvious Henin isn't going to win Wimbledon just this year, so what change of plans are you talking about retirement again?

debby
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:14 AM
Clijsters did change her game though.

She takes the ball earlier and has more aggressive-minded court positioning.
Her serving mentality also changed from just starting the point to going for a few free points.

I don't understand what you mean by serving mentality. It's not like she has a great serve. The Brisbane match was a double fault fest.
I didn't notice she was taking the ball earlier, but agree about her position on court. She can turn from defensive position into an attacking one.

If she doesn't win Wimbledon, she'll pack up, go on holiday with her millions, get ready for the hardcourt season, and try for Wimbledon next year.

Pretty much yeah.

VishaalMaria
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:20 AM
And really, depending on her result at Wimbledon I think at that point she'll analyse her game (if needs be) and see where it's taking her and adjust accordingly. It's a transition year, so she'll have everything figured out at the start of 2011.

For me, I don't understand why Justine changed her game in the first place. With her old game she was extremely consistent on grass, reaching the final twice in 01 and 06 so it was quite successful which could have brought her all the way to the title at some point. This new game of hers is....awkward and IMHO cost her the French.

Matt01
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:22 AM
They're doing what you do in Williams threads, Matthew!


Wrong, they're doing what you do in Caro and Justine threads :wavey:

debby
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:30 AM
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Seems that her sliced backhand was devastating on grass. She should work on this. Her forehand was not strong at all, still she could outhit JenCap with her fh, perhaps because she was not uber aggressive ?

hablo
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:36 AM
I sure hope so...

Ferg
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:38 AM
If she doesnt tank again she'll be fine!!

tennisbum79
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:44 AM
Like anyone said I don't understand the point of this thread it's pretty obvious Henin isn't going to win Wimbledon just this year, so what change of plans are you talking about retirement again?
Not everyone, just you and 3 other posters

Other than that, everybody else understood and posted their comments

mykarma
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:00 AM
Please stay on topic. This should not degenerate into Justin vs. Sharapova fight.

I hope more Justine fans join the thread and add their comments/assessment
:scared:

Natsu
Jun 7th, 2010, 01:26 AM
Justine might win Wimbledon,she has the game, it's only a matter of time :)

skanky~skanketta
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:01 AM
Lol at some morons in here completely dismissing the fact that she could possibly win it. I mean, you'd think that people would learn, especially after seeing Francesca and Samantha making the finals of the French. And Dementieva making the semis after such a dismal season!

tennisbum79
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:08 AM
For me, I don't understand why Justine changed her game in the first place. With her old game she was extremely consistent on grass, reaching the final twice in 01 and 06 so it was quite successful which could have brought her all the way to the title at some point. This new game of hers is....awkward and IMHO cost her the French.
Could it be that given her past results in Wimbledon and RG, Carlos, JUstine and the rest of team came to the conclusion that her RG game was not enough and they have to make a change.

Hence the new game.

Now one may argue it is not the right change or the change should not have been made at all.

You obviously think it was not ncessary to change her game, but her team does

Arnian
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:07 AM
Justine will just try again next year if she doesn't win :shrug: