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AnomyBC
Jun 6th, 2010, 04:53 AM
OK, I'm done bitching about Schiavone winning. Now it's time for a happy thread :)

Which of the following, currently active, non-slam-winning, not-currently-top-15, turned-pro-before-2000, veterans would you like to see be the next surprise slam winner? These are the options:

Kimiko Date Krumm, born 9/28/70 (age 39), turned pro 1989, currently ranked #72
Jill Craybas, born 7/4/74 (age 35), turned pro 1996, currently ranked #101
Rossana De Los Rios, born 9/16/75 (age 34), turned pro 1989, currently ranked #102
Tamarine Tanasugarn, born 5/24/77 (age 33), turned pro 1994, currently ranked #66
Tathiana Garbin, born 6/30/77 (age 32), turned pro 1996, currently ranked #56 (She is!?!)
Patty Schnyder, born 12/14/78 (age 31), turned pro 1994, currently ranked #61
Sybille Bammer, born 4/27/80 (age 30), turned pro 1997, currently ranked #55
Alicia Molik, born 1/27/81 (age 29), turned pro 1996, currently ranked #94
Klara Zakopalova, born 2/24/82 (age 28), turned pro 1999, currently ranked #79 (love her! :inlove:)
Nadia Petrova, born 6/8/82 (age 27), turn pro 1999, currently ranked #20

(Note: Technically Anastasia Rodionova, who's a month older than Petrova and turned pro in 1997, should also be an option here, but I decided to cut her to fit Petrova in.)

My first pick would be Zakopalova, for purely sentimental reasons (she always looks so sad! I want her to be happy for once!), but I'd be content with Petrova too, because she's probably the best player of the bunch. Who would you guys pick???

spiritedenergy
Jun 6th, 2010, 05:06 AM
:rolleyes::o:

swim4life227
Jun 6th, 2010, 05:08 AM
Got to go with Kimiko.

AnomyBC
Jun 6th, 2010, 05:09 AM
:rolleyes::o:

Why are you eye-rolling at my happy thread? I just can't win with you guys :lol:

spiritedenergy
Jun 6th, 2010, 05:10 AM
Why are you eye-rolling at my happy thread? I just can't win with you guys :lol:

after all that bitching you did? your "happy" thread comes off as shady:kiss:

and some of those players, they will never even contend for a slam, are you comparing them with Schiavone? Garbin, de los rios, craybas:spit: nice try though:awww:

Nikkiri
Jun 6th, 2010, 05:11 AM
Nadia! :cheer:

AnomyBC
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:06 AM
after all that bitching you did? your "happy" thread comes off as shady:kiss:

and some of those players, they will never even contend for a slam, are you comparing them with Schiavone? Garbin, de los rios, craybas:spit: nice try though:awww:

I just looked at the players in the top 120 and picked the oldest ones who turned pro before 2000. Obviously it goes without saying that few, if any, will ever contend for a slam title, but their chances obviously seem a lot better now than they did 24 hours ago. At this point I honestly think just about anything is possible---and probably some of these players are starting to think like that now too. This will probably be a big inspiration to other older, lower-ranked players who previously didn't think they had a chance to win a slam. It will be interesting to see if anyone else can pull off a similar result. That said, in most cases I'll probably keep rooting for the younger players---which is what I tend to do currently.

Dor Y
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:07 AM
sorry but none..

delicatecutter
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:13 AM
First, weed out all of the ones who have not at least made 2 GS QF. I know you want to pretend like Francesca winning was a joke, random, a wtf, and she didn't have the goods, but anyone who has followed her over the years knew she had the talent.

Seriously, what are you so outraged about? Did you think Caro would just waltz past Dementieva and Stosur to claim her first Major title? Your posts re: this final are seriously unwarranted.

eck
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:14 AM
Nadia :tears:
She has been kinda the giant slayer (in one match) in the last two GS, just wished she could maintain it somehow.

Chakvenus
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:19 AM
Patty - all the talent in the world
she so deserves a slam imo!!

Setsuna.
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:20 AM
None !

zhengjie_lina
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:34 AM
May I Have Li Na?

DOUBLEFIST
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:35 AM
Na

ElusiveChanteuse
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:39 AM
Out of the list, Nadia first then Tammy or Kimiko.
Na is another of my option too.:awww:

BlackPanther.
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:41 AM
Tammy :lol: WImbledon :hearts:

cas-per
Jun 6th, 2010, 06:49 AM
Jelena Jankovic:lol:



:bigcry:

DarkchildSwiss
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:19 AM
Patty!

AnomyBC
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:25 AM
First, weed out all of the ones who have not at least made 2 GS QF. I know you want to pretend like Francesca winning was a joke, random, a wtf, and she didn't have the goods, but anyone who has followed her over the years knew she had the talent.

Seriously, what are you so outraged about? Did you think Caro would just waltz past Dementieva and Stosur to claim her first Major title? Your posts re: this final are seriously unwarranted.

Well I definitely think Schiavone winning a slam is pretty damn crazy. And I think pretty much everyone thought that before about 24 hours ago. I don't think even her biggest fans really thought she had the talent to win a slam. I think that's kind of a silly statement.

And I never really expected Caro to win. I thought she would beat Schiavone and make the Semis, and that she had a decent shot against Elena, since she beat her twice before, but I didn't see her as having much of a chance of beating Stosur or Serena or Henin in the final. Also, I was primarily rooting for Sharapova to win this tournament. I'm still pissed that that whole destiny thing didn't work out :sad:

Anyway, I think my post's are warranted in the sense that I agree with what I'm saying in them, but I guess there's always the possibility that I may be over-sharing a little bit in terms of my negative views about what happened and if that's the case, my apologies for that :)

And seriously, that has nothing to do with this thread. I didn't intend for this to be mocking Schiavone's win. If I had intended for it to be a mocking thread, I would have put Lilia Osterloh in the poll instead of Petrova :)

PS - I keep intending to say this in one of my replies to you but I always forget. I just want to mention that Parvati is my favorite Survivor ever :inlove:

delicatecutter
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:28 AM
But Jill Craybas really ups the validity of this thread?

Schiavone has had the talent. She has the top 10 wins in her past. She has beaten Henin. Surprising that she won? Definitely. Not AS surprising as some Slam finals, especially considering she was going against another first time finalist. Don't act like you didn't make this poll to mock her win which was truly 100% deserved. I don't know if you bothered to catch the final, but she played superb tennis today.

And I'm sorry that Caro didn't get yet another cakewalk draw to the Final that you were hoping for. :awww:

Shafanovic.
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:28 AM
maria will be. :)

LefandePatty
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:36 AM
Patty. :crying2:

wateva
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:43 AM
tammy for wimbledon! but.......
the day she wins it will be the day when pigs fly. :lol:

AnomyBC
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:50 AM
But Jill Craybas really ups the validity of this thread?

Schiavone has had the talent. She has the top 10 wins in her past. She has beaten Henin. Surprising that she won? Definitely. Not AS surprising as some Slam finals, especially considering she was going against another first time finalist. Don't act like you didn't make this poll to mock her win which was truly 100% deserved. I don't know if you bothered to catch the final, but she played superb tennis today.

And I'm sorry that Caro didn't get yet another cakewalk draw to the Final that you were hoping for. :awww:

There was no sign before this that Schiavone had the talent to win a slam. Previous to this she never reached a Grand Slam semifinal and never won a tournament at higher than the Tier III level. I consider this to be the most random and improbable slam victory, at least on the women's side, that I've seen since I began watching tennis in the late 90's.

And no, I did NOT make this thread to mock her. Honestly, I didn't.

And you know, Caro isn't the only person I root for. She's only one of a great many people I root for. I don't judge tournaments based on how well Caro does, even though I love her :inlove: I would have been completely content with this tournament had Stosur won. (Although again, the person I really wanted to see win was Sharapova :sad:)

Daruma.
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:52 AM
Nadia and Patty. =)

delicatecutter
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:02 AM
There was no sign before this that Schiavone had the talent to win a slam. Previous to this she never reached a Grand Slam semifinal and never won a tournament at higher than the Tier III level. I consider this to be the most random and improbable slam victory, at least on the women's side, that I've seen since I began watching tennis in the late 90's.

And no, I did NOT make this thread to mock her. Honestly, I didn't.

And you know, Caro isn't the only person I root for. She's only one of a great many people I root for. I don't judge tournaments based on how well Caro does, even though I love her :inlove: I would have been completely content with this tournament had Stosur won. (Although again, the person I really wanted to see win was Sharapova :sad:)

She won Moscow last year, which I'm pretty sure is now at a Tier II level. You seem like a swell guy and you're not an asshole like many around these parts, but you know I can't take anyone who roots for Caro seriously, no offense. :o

Rafito.
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:06 AM
No more Veterans please. :o

nevetssllim
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:10 AM
But Jill Craybas really ups the validity of this thread?

Schiavone has had the talent. She has the top 10 wins in her past. She has beaten Henin. Surprising that she won? Definitely. Not AS surprising as some Slam finals, especially considering she was going against another first time finalist. Don't act like you didn't make this poll to mock her win which was truly 100% deserved. I don't know if you bothered to catch the final, but she played superb tennis today.

And I'm sorry that Caro didn't get yet another cakewalk draw to the Final that you were hoping for. :awww:

I agree. Of course Fran is a surprise champion but she's tallied over 20 wins over the top-10 (including wins over Serena, Henin and Mauresmo) and I'm sure she would have been top-10 in the past if it wasn't for her mental block in big matches. With the way she was playing, I'm sure Schiavone would have challenged some of the big names in the top half of the draw.

AnomyBC
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:13 AM
She won Moscow last year, which I'm pretty sure is now at a Tier II level. You seem like a swell guy and you're not an asshole like many around these parts, but you know I can't take anyone who roots for Caro seriously, no offense. :o

Wikipedia's chart had it as a Tier III-equivalent Premier :) And I'm glad you think I'm swell. I totally hated you until I noticed you liked Parvati and then I decided anyone who likes Parvati can't be that bad :)

Umberella
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:15 AM
Out of those options, probably Kimiko. She's just such a pleasant person, and given her age, I think it would just be really inspiring.

But out of anyone, I'd say Daniela Hantuchova. Don't know if she's a "veteran" (she's an older player, but she still looks so young), but it would be great to see my favourite player win something. It's been too long since 2007... >_>

delicatecutter
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:17 AM
Wikipedia's chart had it as a Tier III-equivalent Premier :) And I'm glad you think I'm swell. I totally hated you until I noticed you liked Parvati and then I decided anyone who likes Parvati can't be that bad :)

Well no, I don't think Premiers are equal to the Tier IIIs of old. IIRC they didn't even have Tier IVs anymore the past couple years of the old system, but I could be wrong. Moscow was definitely a Tier II in character I think.

I'm glad you like Parvati, but you also like Caro as well so that's a complete wash. ;)

DemWilliamsGulls
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:22 AM
Its funny how some players such as Dementieva, Jankovic, Petrova, and a lot others have been around so long, played a lot of tournaments and still cannot win a slam and Schiavonne come out of NOWHERE...and get one. That has to puzzle of somewhat confuse some players thats has been around a while longing for a slam. No one would have thought that Schiavonne would win Roland Garros..I was COMPLETELY caught off guard. I dont expect her to go on and win anything else this year, but she played some good ass tennis today. She looked like Henin and Mauresmo combined on the court. Anyway I dont see any of those girls on this poll winning anything anytime soon...then again ..I thought that about Schiavonne...so who knows lol

AnomyBC
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:23 AM
Well no, I don't think Premiers are equal to the Tier IIIs of old. IIRC they didn't even have Tier IVs anymore the past couple years of the old system, but I could be wrong. Moscow was definitely a Tier II in character I think.

I'm glad you like Parvati, but you also like Caro as well so that's a complete wash. ;)

I think it has the most prize money of all the regular Premier tournaments, so I think that puts it pretty close to being a Tier II, but I think the Premier 5's are supposed to be like the new Tier IIs now, right? This new system they have is so ridiculous and confusing :sad:

Oermi
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:11 AM
Patty All The Way :)

laurie
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:49 AM
I just looked at the players in the top 120 and picked the oldest ones who turned pro before 2000. Obviously it goes without saying that few, if any, will ever contend for a slam title, but their chances obviously seem a lot better now than they did 24 hours ago. At this point I honestly think just about anything is possible---and probably some of these players are starting to think like that now too. This will probably be a big inspiration to other older, lower-ranked players who previously didn't think they had a chance to win a slam. It will be interesting to see if anyone else can pull off a similar result. That said, in most cases I'll probably keep rooting for the younger players---which is what I tend to do currently.

I like this thread because I see where you are coming from and its a bit of fun after Steffica Greles' strange thread last night.

However, allow me to put the case for Schiavone.

Of course! Its a huge surprise that she's won this tournament! But its not a surprise she's found self belief at this stage of her career. That's because Francesca has had the winning feeling and belief for the last few years having helped Italy to win two Federation Cups in the last four years – that’s not to be underestimated because she became used to playing big matches against big players with lots of eyes on her and she has won a lot of those matches.

I think that Fed cup experience to go with the belief she has in her game; and the tactical game she naturally plays plus her personality actually put her in good stead for the French Open final.

So really it’s not as big a fluke as some people might imagine or come to that conclusion. And I think last year Fran got to the quarterfinal of Wimbledon so she was gradually improving in slams before this.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:58 AM
Shuai Peng :hearts: (although she isn't a veteran)

If she plays the same kind of tennis she played to spank Kim on the US hard courts it could easily happen at the US Open :angel:

fridayeggs
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:59 AM
what a retarded poll. none of these losers will ever win a slam.
wimbledon will be venus, serena, or maria.
us open will be kim.

Goai
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:01 AM
I wish Ai Sugiyama came back and won Wimbledon... but I can settle for Tammy.

klever58
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:20 AM
Why is Dani not in the poll? She is not veteran? :laugh: I think that she can still win something.. and from that poll...nobody

Cp6uja
Jun 6th, 2010, 10:34 AM
Michelle Larcher De Brito at Australian Open 2023

claypova
Jun 6th, 2010, 11:59 AM
Elena Dementieva not on the poll? :o

form those choices, nadia :)

Danii's Law
Jun 6th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Well no, I don't think Premiers are equal to the Tier IIIs of old. IIRC they didn't even have Tier IVs anymore the past couple years of the old system, but I could be wrong. Moscow was definitely a Tier II in character I think.

I'm glad you like Parvati, but you also like Caro as well so that's a complete wash. ;)

I commented on an old post of yours. I love me some Parvati. She was robbed at the Heroes v Villains final. Best player of Survivor ever.

On topic. Daniilidou is the veteran I'd most like to see win a major.

volta
Jun 6th, 2010, 12:37 PM
Kimiko
Patty
Nadia
Tamarine

if none of my favs get it i wouldn't mind any of these ladies grabbing it.

toxina90
Jun 6th, 2010, 12:51 PM
Sybille ofcourse :hearts: then Klara and Tamarine.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Jun 6th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Nadia Petrova. It would be a waste but she wouldn't be the first great player to go Slamless.

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 6th, 2010, 12:58 PM
There was no sign before this that Schiavone had the talent to win a slam. Previous to this she never reached a Grand Slam semifinal

Neither did the likes of Majoli, Serena, Myskina, Sharapova, Kuznetsova before winning their first slam.

and never won a tournament at higher than the Tier III level.

And that's a blatant lie.

Serenita
Jun 6th, 2010, 01:00 PM
Patty Schnyder

Pops Maellard
Jun 6th, 2010, 01:13 PM
Elena Dementieva

AnomyBC
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:31 AM
Neither did the likes of Majoli, Serena, Myskina, Sharapova, Kuznetsova before winning their first slam.

And that's a blatant lie.

Yes, but Schiavone is almost 30 years old. And how is that a blatant lie? Are you suggesting that her Moscow win should be considered a Tier II? Because there's been some debate about that. I myself am working under the theory that Premier = Tier III. And Premier 5 = Tier II. If you agree with that then her Moscow win was a Tier III---albeit a very high Tier III.

Daniel K
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:36 AM
Yes, but Schiavone is almost 30 years old. And how is that a blatant lie? Are you suggesting that her Moscow win should be considered a Tier II? Because there's been some debate about that. I myself am working under the theory that Premier = Tier III. And Premier 5 = Tier II. If you agree with that then her Moscow win was a Tier III---albeit a very high Tier III.

Premier are tier 2. International tournaments are the former tier 3s and 4s. This is no secret.

AnomyBC
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:36 AM
Why is Dani not in the poll? She is not veteran? :laugh: I think that she can still win something.. and from that poll...nobody

I do consider her to be a veteran and I did considered her for the poll, but there were a lot of other players who were older and who had been around longer.

And for those who asked...

I didn't use Elena because she's ranked too high and if she won a slam it really wouldn't be that much of a surprise.

And I didn't use Flavia or Na because they're in the Top 15 and didn't turn pro before 2000.

AnomyBC
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:38 AM
Premier are tier 2. International tournaments are the former tier 3s and 4s. This is no secret.

OK, fair enough. She hadn't won any tournament above a Tier II then.

Wiggly
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:40 AM
Schnyder or Petrova.
Half of these players are in their mid-thirties and struggling to beat some top 150 players.

Schiavone has a decent game and a winner mentality.
You can acheive greater things with a B game/winner mentality than a A game/loser mentality.

delicatecutter
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:55 AM
OK, fair enough. She hadn't won any tournament above a Tier II then.

I was doing some research last week to see if anyone had actually won a Major before winning a Tier I (this was based out of Caro hatred of course), and the results were somewhat surprising.

We can now add Franci to the list but also Mary Pierce and Martina Hingis had never won a Tier I prior to claiming their first Major.

FTR, I do not expect Caro to join the list. :o

DefyingGravity
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:07 AM
I'd say Petrova at Roland Garros
Hantuchova at the Australian
Dementieva at the U.S. Open and
Tanasugarn at Wimbledon

I'd be happy.

AnomyBC
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Schnyder or Petrova.
Half of these players are in their mid-thirties and struggling to beat some top 150 players.

Schiavone has a decent game and a winner mentality.
You can acheive greater things with a B game/winner mentality than a A game/loser mentality.

Don't diss players with an A game and a loser mentality. Those are some of my favorites :lol:

Pops Maellard
Jun 7th, 2010, 04:20 AM
I was doing some research last week to see if anyone had actually won a Major before winning a Tier I (this was based out of Caro hatred of course), and the results were somewhat surprising.

We can now add Franci to the list but also Mary Pierce and Martina Hingis had never won a Tier I prior to claiming their first Major.

FTR, I do not expect Caro to join the list. :o
Juan Martin Del Potro. ;) Since a Tier 1 is a Masters Series Tournament on ATP. :D

delicatecutter
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:04 AM
Juan Martin Del Potro. ;) Since a Tier 1 is a Masters Series Tournament on ATP. :D

Aww that's good to know. Super Sexy Juan Martin is GOAT in sooo many ways. :drool:

We all know Caro is no SSJM. :o

MAGIKARPETTA
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:24 AM
Flavia. She will be envious of Francy :D

burn
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:52 AM
No question. Patty.

Dawn Marie
Jun 7th, 2010, 07:12 AM
WTF? U said u dont think Fran had the talent to win a slam? Have u not watched her play before? She has loads of talent and she just put it all together in the final. Fran always had game. WOW!
I voted for patty schydner. dani and elena are also in.

Navratil
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:02 AM
The only realistic option is Petrova! In fact she had a big chance in Roland Garros - if she wasn't injured.

Beat
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:11 AM
i think schiavone just did what a lot of people expected schnyder to do some day - but never managed to do.

how is dementieva missing from the poll? she's an obvious choice.

Larrybidd
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:15 AM
Flavia Panetta

Larrybidd
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:23 AM
Its funny how some players such as Dementieva, Jankovic, Petrova, and a lot others have been around so long, played a lot of tournaments and still cannot win a slam and Schiavonne come out of NOWHERE...and get one. That has to puzzle of somewhat confuse some players thats has been around a while longing for a slam. No one would have thought that Schiavonne would win Roland Garros..I was COMPLETELY caught off guard. I dont expect her to go on and win anything else this year, but she played some good ass tennis today. She looked like Henin and Mauresmo combined on the court. Anyway I dont see any of those girls on this poll winning anything anytime soon...then again ..I thought that about Schiavonne...so who knows lol

Its not puzzling at ALL. When Fran got her chance, she played the match of her life. Period. That's how big upsets occur: The underdog summons the best and delivers it. All those other girls that people are wondering why they haven't broken thru, the answer is clear. When they had thier chance, they couldn't come up with their best.

fervor
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:34 AM
Its not puzzling at ALL. When Fran got her chance, she played the match of her life. Period. That's how big upsets occur: The underdog summons the best and delivers it. All those other girls that people are wondering why they haven't broken thru, the answer is clear. When they had thier chance, they couldn't come up with their best.

I'd say she played the best '2 weeks' of her life and lucked out with a relatively easy draw.

There is a reason why top tier players usually win the majors. It's a grueling 2-week tournament. It's rare for players outside the top tier to be able to maintain the necessary level of play for the entire time.

AnomyBC
Jun 7th, 2010, 10:57 AM
i think schiavone just did what a lot of people expected schnyder to do some day - but never managed to do.

how is dementieva missing from the poll? she's an obvious choice.

I explained that. She's ranked too high and it wouldn't be much of a surprise if she actually won a major.

toby345
Jun 7th, 2010, 10:59 AM
I explained that. She's ranked too high and it wouldn't be much of a surprise if she actually won a major.

It would actually be a huge surprise. We are talking about DEMENTIEVA :wavey: :haha:

AnomyBC
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:00 AM
WTF? U said u dont think Fran had the talent to win a slam? Have u not watched her play before? She has loads of talent and she just put it all together in the final. Fran always had game. WOW!
I voted for patty schydner. dani and elena are also in.

I'm not saying she didn't have any talent, but clearly before this there was nothing to suggest that she had the talent to win a slam.

debby
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:03 AM
It would actually be a huge surprise. We are talking about DEMENTIEVA :wavey: :haha:

:lol: :yeah:

I voted for Nadia, I was so gutted for her when she lost to Dementieva because of injury :bigcry:

AnomyBC
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:03 AM
Its not puzzling at ALL. When Fran got her chance, she played the match of her life. Period. That's how big upsets occur: The underdog summons the best and delivers it. All those other girls that people are wondering why they haven't broken thru, the answer is clear. When they had thier chance, they couldn't come up with their best.

We're all aware of what happened, but that fact that Fran was able to do it and not Elena, Jelena, Dinara, etc. is obviously somewhat puzzling.

Rix643
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:16 AM
Navratilova.

AnnaK_4ever
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:30 AM
I was doing some research last week to see if anyone had actually won a Major before winning a Tier I (this was based out of Caro hatred of course), and the results were somewhat surprising.

We can now add Franci to the list but also Mary Pierce and Martina Hingis had never won a Tier I prior to claiming their first Major.

+ Sharapova, Kuznetsova, ASV.

Sharapova's case is the most bizzare one. She won a Grand Slam first, then Tour Championships, then a Tier I and only after that a Tier II.

Larrybidd
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:00 PM
We're all aware of what happened, but that fact that Fran was able to do it and not Elena, Jelena, Dinara, etc. is obviously somewhat puzzling.

Easy answer is Fran is more mentally tough than those other girls. Those 3 in particular all has some personality quirks that hold them back in one way or another. Fran seems to be a hard worker who is quite coach-able and easy to be around for her team (definitely not JJ). Fran seems to have a very carefree attitude and finally (its a process) has not allowed the pressure to keep them from performing in the big moments. That hasn't happened yet for Dinara or Elena, both of whom always seem wound tighter than a drum.

Its ridiculous to say it will never happen for any of these talented girls. If it could happen for Mauresmo, surely it can happen for them. But the answer is not a mystery. It takes more than talent. Some people have IT, some never get IT.

Ferg
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:03 PM
KDK will win Wimbledon this year.

TeamUla
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:03 PM
Petrova, Schnyder, Dementieva or Molik :)

Ballbasher
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:23 PM
:lol: The only ones who fit into this are Patty & Nadia. I would be stunned if any of the other options was to win a slam!

SVK
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Tanasugarn will win Wimbledon:tears:

Mistress of Evil
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:31 PM
None.

colt13
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:39 PM
Sharapova was a 13 seed when she won Wimbledon, Schiavone was 17 here. Normally anything under 10 is unlikely, so a better poll would be non slam winners between 11-32.

Whit that said, Petrova is the only one in the poll that fits that category

Polikarpov
Jun 7th, 2010, 02:57 PM
Alexandra Stevenson

°°°VaMoS RaFa°°°
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Alicia that would be great!!!

silvamarius
Jun 7th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Nadia deserve it