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Caillou
May 30th, 2010, 04:44 AM
Hey guys, recently, I have really been struggling to hit my two handed backhand. Prior to this, I had a very good two handeder that I could hit with depth, power and accuracy. Now when I go to hit a backhand, it's almost like mentally I can't do it. My brain almost stops me from swinging normally and I hit it up on it and it lands quite long. Has anyone experienced this or at least know what the heck I'm talking about? It's worse when I get a ball with no pace on it, when I have time to think about it, I can't even force myself to swing through and hit a clean backhand. Can anyone relate to this and help me??

Thanks in advance.

Wiggly
May 30th, 2010, 04:53 AM
Well, it happened to me and it was my strings that were way too old.
I was hitting the fence all the freaking time and couldn't anything but drop shotting everyone to death and moonballing.

Check that out.
Or go for the cross-court as it's the easiest shot and build on that.

Aaron.
May 30th, 2010, 05:01 AM
Practice, Practice, Practice shut your mind off when your playing a tennis match. In practice try to work the technique and get a feel for the shot I feel the same way about my serve :sad: but it's getting a little better

Randy H
May 30th, 2010, 05:36 AM
Focus on the basics - Make sure that you are keeping your eye on the ball through the entire shot, that you are using the proper footwork necessary, and that you are following through on the shot. The last part is the hardest because you've probably become afraid to keep making mistakes, and are therefore thinking that if you pull back, you can at least keep the ball in play. It may take a bit of time, but if you can focus on those simple elements, it should make life easier trying to get your form back :)

Petkorazzi
May 30th, 2010, 07:04 AM
That happens to me all the time!!! :sobbing: :hysteric:

My advice would be to just let that shot go for a little bit. If it's the backhand, just keep slicing for a few days cause hitting the backhand wrong may ruin the shot completely. Same with forehand, when it breaks down I use the double handed forehand. :shrug: I also think playing on a mega fast court helps, I've tried it a couple of times and got my shots back :)

barboza
May 30th, 2010, 08:22 AM
Wow, this happened to me exactly. I used to be more consistent with my backhand than forehand. After a few years, I think my backhand shot is declining. I see two immediate problems: one, my grip is turned too "close" making the racket head not "open", thus my backhand shots hit the net A LOT; two, my stance and footwork aren't excellent so I end up getting too close to the ball when hitting my backhand -- so much so that I'd have to hit slice backhand shots which displeases me. Balls that land low and way in the court - as opposed to the baseline - give me great difficulty as you feel you have to put away the shot, just like you see on TV. However, like you mentioned, you have a lot of time to come in, creating for more choices and hence pressure to execute.

I'd say practice is the key to changing bad habits. I know it's difficult especially when you don't have a lot of time on your hands.

ArturoAce.
May 30th, 2010, 08:53 AM
Hey guys, recently, I have really been struggling to hit my two handed backhand. Prior to this, I had a very good two handeder that I could hit with depth, power and accuracy. Now when I go to hit a backhand, it's almost like mentally I can't do it. My brain almost stops me from swinging normally and I hit it up on it and it lands quite long. Has anyone experienced this or at least know what the heck I'm talking about? It's worse when I get a ball with no pace on it, when I have time to think about it, I can't even force myself to swing through and hit a clean backhand. Can anyone relate to this and help me??

Thanks in advance.

Oh wow. Yes! I definitely have experienced this. This was 2 handed backhand was always my best shot since it had a little extra pace and consistency, but then it slowly diminished. I was hitting moon balls or netting a lot, so I just worked on pushing it over like guiding it. I was fortunate enough to have a ball machine though, so I just hit like 200 hundred a day, and it's improving. I just always hope my opponent hits with a lot of pace because I have a hard time generating pace and adding spin to it.

Josh.
May 30th, 2010, 10:31 AM
I think its been mentioned but what helps me is simplifying the shot, basically back to basics. Also, just focusing on getting a good length and spin on the ball instead of hitting winners off that side. Hopefully, after doing that for a couple of games or whatever, you will get your timing and confidence back.

Jarl_02
May 30th, 2010, 01:06 PM
The same happened to me. A few years ago my backhand was my biggest weapon and suddenly I couldn't win with that shot.

First of all you have to forget about that, you can't be thinking you had a good backhand and now you don't becuase that won't help you at all.

The problem I was having is that I was taking too much time preparing my shot and I was always hitting the ball late becuase of that. And my second problem was I wasn't lowering the racquet head in order to produce topspin on the ball, I was always hitting flat so pay attetion to those things.

Ballbasher
May 30th, 2010, 02:18 PM
My backhand and my serve are always up and down. If my forehand doesn't work, I can at least still get some topspin on it to hit some deep shots, but my backhand is much flatter and I can just push it, but it won't go deep all the time. :p Sometimes I serve below 20% and my second serve is the biggest crap EVER. No slice, no spin, NOTHING. And that is the case right now. One first serve (my biggest weapon) in 2 service games and I feel pretty unconfident with it. But I play rarely so it doesn't have much of an impact at all. But that annoys me right now, but it's been the case before and I hope to overcome it again. :p

¤CharlDa¤
May 30th, 2010, 02:46 PM
I had the same issue with my forehand a few months ago. It's like I couldn't hit the shot anymore, even though I probably hit millions in my life. My technique became awkward, I had no follow-through whatsoever. I played a tournament during that time and really wasn't playing well, and it just crushed me, really.

That's when I decided to take a small break from hitting. Nothing major, a bit more than a week or two. Just to break my rhythm a bit, forget about the bad things.

Then, when I came back, I asked either a training partner, or a coach, to just hit me tons and tons of forehands. And then i'd just hit them as I thought I should, while they started by hitting the fence, it quickly came back to normal, and now I can say, a few months afterwards, it is much better.

twight6
May 30th, 2010, 03:20 PM
I used to have the same problem with my forehand.. In my opinion, you really have two options:

1) Go out and practice, practice, practice, practice, practice and then practice some more. Have someone toss the ball to your backhand, then hit to your backhand, then serve to your backhand.. Get a bucket of balls, have someone stand at the service line and just keep hitting them to your backhand. Start off just trying to get it back, then slowly work up to the end of the bucket where you're hitting down the line and cross court.

OR

2) Don't think about it. Practicing will just put more focus on your backhand and just make the thoughts about it more prevolant in your mind. If you practice it, later when you play you'll be thinking about your practice, and then even more worried about it. It sounds like a mental problem, so just try to not think about it, think about the basics: eyes on the ball, swing through. Move your feet.


It really depends on your style. If you're one that can hit the courts for hours at a time practicing, try option number one. Go back to basics that way, with easy shots and getting back in the habit of hitting. Or, if you like match play, try option two and just try not worry about it. You know how to hit the backhand, you've hit in the past, so why should now be any different? The answer: because you think it's different. But it isn't, it's still you hitting the same shot. So, with option two, go back to the basics in match play; just get the backhand back in play, wait for your big forehand or for the error, and take the backhand winner when it's lined up for you.

Also, with option two, try playing someone you know you can't beat! Especially someone who hits harder than you.. It gives you less time to think about your shots, rely more on instincts, and if they're a lot better you just go for more and relax. One of the best matches I ever played was against a kid from a private school who had played all his life, I lost 6-1 6-1 but I was going for my shots, and hit some HUGE backhands and even forehands. I got killed, but in reality I was in every point, and considering I had only been playing 4 years at a public school, and this kid had 10+ years at a private one.. it should've been much worse :lol:


For me, I used to miss my forehand by a lot my senior year in high school. My backhand I can hit a winner from anywhere on the court. My junior year, my forehand was working too.. But then I switched up rackets my senior year, changed strings, and when I tried to get better, I actually went backward. I used to put way too much spin on my forehand and it would sometimes bounce before it even reached the net :tape:. Bottom line, I went 2-8 the first part of my season, then rebounded mid-season to lose only one match the rest of the year before the year-end tournament, where I placed third and moved onto State Qualifiers. I went more with option number two, I just went back to my basics and how I played my sophomore year: just getting my freohand in and waiting for the big backhand. After a while, the confidence came back.

I'm not exaggerating when I say I had exactly the same problem with my forehand. It was almost embarassing to have such a strong, solid backhand, and then have my forehand hit the back fence or not even make the net :help: :tape:. I would line up, bring my arm back, and when I went to swing it just mentally felt wrong. I would go way too over the top and it would bounce ten feet in front of me, or it would fly off my racket.


Anyway, that's my rant for the day :lol:. Best of luck to you :hug:. You have to game, you still know how to play, so just get back in the habit of it. Move your feet, relax, wait on the ball, keep your eyes on it, and if worse comes to worst: push through the ball a couple times early on in the point before you start swinging again.

:wavey:

Hele.
May 30th, 2010, 08:23 PM
When I lose confidence in my two handed backhand I try to practice forehand with left hand :yeah:. But try to hit it very technique correctly :yeah:.

Aaron.
May 30th, 2010, 08:56 PM
www.fuzzyyellowballs.com is really good for fundamentals go there it's free too :)

Caillou
May 30th, 2010, 10:01 PM
wow, THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL OF YOU!! I'm going to give all the advice a shot, something is bound to work eh? It means a lot so thanks everyone. I'll good rep you all too ;)

Justin SW
May 31st, 2010, 03:21 AM
Im currently struggling with the same problem now...but me I feel like I lost my old grip and thats what prevent s me from hitting it right. I net lots of back hand and I just dont know what to do! It was such a GREAT SHOT :'(! :sad:

HowardH
May 31st, 2010, 04:27 AM
Hey guys, recently, I have really been struggling to hit my two handed backhand. Prior to this, I had a very good two handeder that I could hit with depth, power and accuracy. Now when I go to hit a backhand, it's almost like mentally I can't do it. My brain almost stops me from swinging normally and I hit it up on it and it lands quite long. Has anyone experienced this or at least know what the heck I'm talking about? It's worse when I get a ball with no pace on it, when I have time to think about it, I can't even force myself to swing through and hit a clean backhand. Can anyone relate to this and help me??

Thanks in advance.

It sounds like you are hesitating and contacting a bit late, which is reducing your topspin and making you almost push through the ball. When you have pace to work with you don't have to swing hard since you can just redirect the oncoming pace, but when you have a slower ball and have to swing hard you cannot control it since there isn't enough spin.

My advice would be to try to focus on contacting early, with medium-high racquet speed, out in front of the body, using enough wrist movement to cover the ball and get topspin. Try to get the feeling of hitting across the ball (ie for a righthander, you should feel that your racquet comes from the left side of the ball and brushes across it to the right side of it) instead of directly through it.

I would go to the court by yourself at least once a week with a bag of balls and just drop the ball in front of yourself and rip through backhand after backhand, trying to get a rhythm and establishing a "windscreen wiper" feel for the contact. That way you can miss as much as you like while trying to find the rhythm. If you have a wall which you can throw a ball against, try to throw a ball at slow to medium speed at the wall and hit a backhand when it comes back to you, focusing on having reasonably high racquetspeed and spin, while still keeping the pace of the shot slow enough so that it doesn't just fly back past you. I used this method to fix my own backhand when I was losing a bit of control a few years ago, I found it worked well.

These two drills will replicate "slow balls" quite well. Also you are able to do them by yourself which takes a lot of pressure off you since it doesn't matter much if you make mistakes. The key is to get used to swinging faster than the oncoming ball and still retaining control. By dropping the ball on a court or throwing it slowly towards a wall (not too slowly or it won't come back to you properly though) you will get used to generating pace yourself on the backhand. Chances are that you will find this quite difficult in your current form, but if you get it to work you will begin to develop confidence in your swing again.

Getting someone to throw balls (medium slow with loop) at your backhand, which was mentioned by someone else, is also a good idea, since it is easier than actually rallying, but I would do the solo exercises first since you have less pressure then and it's easier to experiment when you're by yourself.

Good luck with rediscovering your backhand.

HowardH
May 31st, 2010, 04:47 AM
Im currently struggling with the same problem now...but me I feel like I lost my old grip and thats what prevent s me from hitting it right. I net lots of back hand and I just dont know what to do! It was such a GREAT SHOT :'(! :sad:

Sounds like you aren't getting underneath the shot enough. I would recommend something similar to what I advised Caillou to do- go to a court by yourself, drop balls to yourself and hit lots of backhands, focusing on relaxing the wrists and getting underneath the ball before brushing up on it. Use reasonably high racquethead speed and spin- it's cheating if you push it slowly to control it. Try to get to the point where you can hit 20 topspin shots in a row this way with reasonable pace without a single one hitting the net.

Caralenko
May 31st, 2010, 06:08 AM
My serve always breaks down after I lose a bit of confidence :sobbing: After one double fault, I start to focus too much on getting it over and then I just fault away the game.

barboza
May 31st, 2010, 06:46 AM
I would also suggest something that worked for me today. Try to emulate a certain player's style. For example, I tried to hit like Elena Dementieva today and it worked as my backhand was more consistent. Watch the ball, move your feet and don't fiddle with the grip too much.

Ferg
May 31st, 2010, 09:49 PM
I dont really have that problem. Its strange, even after a hit a few bad shots Im always confident and looking forward to the next strike to try to get it better again. If I did have a problem it would be with the wiggles, which I also get in golf. Sometimes I dont even grip the racket properly until they're served. :tape:

DualMedia
Jun 1st, 2010, 12:57 AM
me and ana I. need to have meeting, because I have a bad ball toss! I never can get it right! any ideas?

hdfb
Jun 1st, 2010, 01:36 AM
Hey guys, recently, I have really been struggling to hit my two handed backhand. Prior to this, I had a very good two handeder that I could hit with depth, power and accuracy. Now when I go to hit a backhand, it's almost like mentally I can't do it. My brain almost stops me from swinging normally and I hit it up on it and it lands quite long. Has anyone experienced this or at least know what the heck I'm talking about? It's worse when I get a ball with no pace on it, when I have time to think about it, I can't even force myself to swing through and hit a clean backhand. Can anyone relate to this and help me??

Thanks in advance.

I was like a carbon copy of you. :sobbing:

My BH was always a liability compared to my forehand, and I was out from tennis with a knee injury for 6 months. When I came back, my backhand was exactly like you said, would hit up, sail over the baseline. I couldn't get spin on it, I knew I should bend my knees but I never did...

The only way is to practise and really prepare your body as the ball approaches the BH wing. Must come over that ball and hit it side on. I would just have BH rallies with my brother to get into it, I suggest you do that too. I am much better now since coming back from injury... still gotta work more in bending those knees though!

Caillou
Jun 1st, 2010, 04:04 AM
Again guys, it means so much to me that you are helping me like this. It's great to get advice from such knowledgeable people. I had a doubles match tonight and really struggled with the things I described in the thread. Came through it with my partner though (many thanks to him), even after being down 3-5 15-40! But, now I need time to take all the advice in and work on it. I will certainly let guys know how things go. Appreciate it!

The Witch-king
Jun 4th, 2010, 05:31 PM
I would also suggest something that worked for me today. Try to emulate a certain player's style. For example, I tried to hit like Elena Dementieva today and it worked as my backhand was more consistent. Watch the ball, move your feet and don't fiddle with the grip too much.

I've had the same problem with all my shots (backhand, forehand, serve, volleys) and frankly, trying to emulate players is the worst thing I ever did. I would analyse pictures and videos to see how the pros hold their rackets, how they swing etc. and then i'd go and play and it simply would not work.

I guess it's cos seeing it on TV really doesn't capture exactly what players do, PLUS they have those crazy ass extreme grips and open-stance shots that I think take years to learn how to execute.

So what I did eventually was just to trust that I knew how to do it and not try to emulate players too much... basically let my shots flow. And it worked after a while.

VishaalMaria
Jun 4th, 2010, 06:20 PM
The only shot I lose confidence in is my serve.

I think about it too much at times.


I get it over the net alright, it's just.....when I try and hit down the t it goes kinda wide and vice versa... :( Crappy technique.

Keegan
Jun 5th, 2010, 12:58 PM
I think you should start off slowly. Just push the backhand into play and gradually put more and more power on to it. That's what helped me when my backhand left me.

Shafanovic.
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:35 AM
just like me with my forehand right now.

my forehand was sooooo good before, and then i focused on my backhand so it was better. now it's my better shot but because i don't practice the forehand, that went downhill.

only last week i've tried to focus it on my forehand, but with that said, i also practiced the backhand because it is my favourite shot.

so you have to work on both. not just one. good luck :yeah:

Petkorazzi
Jun 6th, 2010, 02:46 PM
Funnily enough, these last 3-4 days I've got my forehand back and am hitting the shit out of the ball. :lol::confused:

Wiggly
Jun 6th, 2010, 04:13 PM
Come and read this thread Robin!

.Andrew.
Jun 11th, 2010, 10:19 AM
Happens with my backhand sometimes. When I get tight, I hit it very restrained with hardly any takeback instead of hitting through the ball resulting in some shanky, short backhand waiting to be attacked. :crying2:

Best advice I can give, is when things start going wrong, always go back to the basics. ;) Seems really obvious, but my coach tries to tell me this all the time because when things start going wrong I either try to do too much, or too little (:sobbing:) but once you remind yourself of the fundamentals of the stroke, you'll be fine. :)

Caillou
Jun 20th, 2010, 03:21 AM
Just letting everyone know, it's pretty much back to normal. I found that focusing on moving my feet, watching the ball and making sure my shoulder was turned (as opposed to open stance) helped me a lot. Thanks for everyone's help and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one struggling with this! Reassuring to say the least. Hope you guys get that confidence back, it's sooo vital in tennis

Shafanovic.
Jun 20th, 2010, 03:25 AM
Losing confidence in everything?

I'm thinking of quitting all together if I keep playing the way I did yesterday.

DefyingGravity
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:07 AM
See, playing like Ivanovic, but never really having the shaky backhand, it's starting to land very short and it used to be my best shot. Now it's just ok-ish. I say 1) try and think about what you're technique is like. If it's something that can be adjusted, then I would say bring it up in lessons or with people who are watching you play. 2) If it feels mental, then you should go ahead and try and think more positively and manufacture confidence in the shot. 3) Go for that shot more...the more you use it, the more success can come of it. 4) Relax....your game can go through patches of rough times. It'll always turn out okay

DefyingGravity
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:07 AM
Just letting everyone know, it's pretty much back to normal. I found that focusing on moving my feet, watching the ball and making sure my shoulder was turned (as opposed to open stance) helped me a lot. Thanks for everyone's help and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one struggling with this! Reassuring to say the least. Hope you guys get that confidence back, it's sooo vital in tennis

Shoulder turn isn't exclusive to closed or semi-open stances. Even completely open stances need a shoulder turn.

darrinbaker00
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:37 AM
Losing confidence in everything?

I'm thinking of quitting all together if I keep playing the way I did yesterday.
You're not going to quit. You CAN'T quit. You're addicted to tennis, just like Eldrick T. Woods is addicted to skanky women.

Shafanovic.
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:39 AM
You're not going to quit. You CAN'T quit. You're addicted to tennis, just like Eldrick T. Woods is addicted to skanky women.

not quit. i meant take a few months break. don't touch a tennis racket or anything. and yeah i think i might do that. maybe it'll make me study more.

kickserve
Jun 20th, 2010, 05:44 AM
Hey guys, recently, I have really been struggling to hit my two handed backhand. Prior to this, I had a very good two handeder that I could hit with depth, power and accuracy. Now when I go to hit a backhand, it's almost like mentally I can't do it. My brain almost stops me from swinging normally and I hit it up on it and it lands quite long. Has anyone experienced this or at least know what the heck I'm talking about? It's worse when I get a ball with no pace on it, when I have time to think about it, I can't even force myself to swing through and hit a clean backhand. Can anyone relate to this and help me??

Thanks in advance.

Always check your footwork. When you mess up your stroke, the tendency is to look at your swing first. You should check your footwork first and make sure that it is .
Do you split step, start your unit turn with your outside foot and step into the shot with a closed to neutral stance?

Problem with no pace balls is symptomatic of bad footwork. You aren't getting yourself into position and using your body weight to generate your own pace and hit through the ball.

No pace balls/sitters should be your bread and butter. This is what you are trying to get your opponent to cough up.

sunset
Jul 1st, 2010, 08:28 PM
Wow, this happened to me exactly. I used to be more consistent with my backhand than forehand. After a few years, I think my backhand shot is declining. I see two immediate problems: one, my grip is turned too "close" making the racket head not "open", thus my backhand shots hit the net A LOT; two, my stance and footwork aren't excellent so I end up getting too close to the ball when hitting my backhand -- so much so that I'd have to hit slice backhand shots which displeases me. Balls that land low and way in the court - as opposed to the baseline - give me great difficulty as you feel you have to put away the shot, just like you see on TV. However, like you mentioned, you have a lot of time to come in, creating for more choices and hence pressure to execute.

I'd say practice is the key to changing bad habits. I know it's difficult especially when you don't have a lot of time on your hands.


Very true. It helps to take lessons at that point and let someone look at it from the outside. All you may need is a little tune up. ;)