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Ferg
May 29th, 2010, 09:56 PM
After a tough clay start, she did very well in Paris, so hoping for a good run here! Defending an Eastbourne semi and R3 in Wimbledon. She should get some points here before Stanford....

bruce goose
Jun 1st, 2010, 05:36 PM
If Marion likes grass,then she should visit our OTHER tournament,Acapulco,next year;Acapulco Gold is a variety of Mexican grass that's known worldwide

Lighter
Jun 3rd, 2010, 08:59 AM
It seems that Marion will modify her clay schedule next year. 2007 program on clay was good. Not sure that she'll play Charleston.

Chakvenus
Jun 6th, 2010, 07:41 PM
GL Marion!!
lets make it a fourth straight semi at Eastbourne, with a similar result at Wimbledon from 2007 ;)

bruce goose
Jun 6th, 2010, 09:55 PM
GL Marion!!
lets make it a fourth straight semi at Eastbourne, with a similar result at Wimbledon from 2007 ;)Actually,if Schiavone can win RG,then Marion could even take the Wimbledon title with a few breaks......theoretically speaking:o

Alizé Molik
Jun 10th, 2010, 01:12 AM
Actually,if Schiavone can win RG,then Marion could even take the Wimbledon title with a few breaks......theoretically speaking:o

except that RG clay negates the strengths of the top players, whereas grass adds to their power! Remember also that Marion lost to Schiavone, on grass last year :sad:

bruce goose
Jun 10th, 2010, 02:44 AM
except that RG clay negates the strengths of the top players, whereas grass adds to their power! Remember also that Marion lost to Schiavone, on grass last year :sad:I'm not trying to be logical....just optimistic:lol:

Marionated
Jun 10th, 2010, 02:21 PM
I just want her to get to the 4th round of a major again :o

bruce goose
Jun 10th, 2010, 08:44 PM
I just want her to get to the 4th round of a major again :oRezai beat former teen Wimbledon phenom Mirjana Lucic today...she's now in the QFs at Birmingham....It'd be something if they BOTH made the QFs at Wimby

Ferg
Jun 11th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Looks like Marion will be #8 seed in Eastbourne.

bruce goose
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:44 PM
Rezai now in the semis at Birmingham...might meet Big Masha in the Final...raising French hopes for another successful Normand invasion

Ferg
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:59 PM
Rezai now in the semis at Birmingham...might meet Big Masha in the Final...raising French hopes for another successful Normand invasion

Let the French media concentrate on her all they want, she wont have lasting success in the top 20 like Marion has. Her good spell wont last too long.

bruce goose
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:12 AM
Let the French media concentrate on her all they want, she wont have lasting success in the top 20 like Marion has. Her good spell wont last too long.I hope you don't think that I was trying to foment any competition between Marion and Aravane.....I'm just slightly bored in the tennis realm while waiting for Marion to play again

Ferg
Jun 12th, 2010, 02:11 PM
(1)Caroline Wozniacki v Aravane Rezai
Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez v Vera Zvonareva
Olga Govortsova v Agnes Szavay
Vera Dushevina v (8)Marion Bartoli

(4)Agnieszka Radwanska v Victoria Azarenka
Q v Q
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova v Lucie Safarova
Yanina Wickmayer v (5)Kim Clijsters

(7)Li Na v (wc)Elena Baltacha
Shahar Peer v Zheng Jie
(wc)Anne Keothavong v Daniela Hantuchova
Melanie Oudin v (3)Samantha Stosur

(6)Flavia Pennetta v Q
Q v Nadia Petrova
Alisa Kleyabnova v (wc)Svetlana Kuznetsova
Sorana Cirstea v (2)Francesca Schiavone

Ferg
Jun 12th, 2010, 02:11 PM
Dushevina first... :scared: 7-2 H2H or something. Easy 2nd round but then a tough quarter.

bruce goose
Jun 12th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Dushevina first... :scared: 7-2 H2H or something. Easy 2nd round but then a tough quarter.....INCLUDING a potential match-up with Rezai....The Drama-Meter might go tilt:lol:

Leucoptera
Jun 12th, 2010, 08:43 PM
Bartoli vs Rezai = cat fighting?

This time, Bartoli in two. Needs a compensation for the Bali retirement.:angel:

bruce goose
Jun 13th, 2010, 12:05 AM
Bartoli vs Rezai = cat fighting?

Seeing those two in a bikini fight:hearts: might require me to take heart medication;I'll settle for the tennis court and cheer Marion to victory:cool:

Leucoptera
Jun 13th, 2010, 09:35 AM
Seeing those two in a bikini fight

We are speaking about sport, bruce goose.
May be some additional skin oil, hence ?

:hearts:

Six Feet Under
Jun 13th, 2010, 02:11 PM
Marion should make at least the quarters here.

Anything is possible at wimbledon

bruce goose
Jun 13th, 2010, 08:36 PM
We are speaking about sport, bruce goose.
May be some additional skin oil, hence ?

:hearts:Well,Marion's match is tomorrow....I can't really tell what kind of PERSON her nemesis Dushevina is...b/c her English isn't very good.However,I'd be delighted to cheer our :hearts:Marion:hearts: to victory......and then console a depressed Vera with a nice massage in the hot tub afterwards:p

sCoTt.ChE.
Jun 14th, 2010, 02:39 AM
Marion is playing Dushevina? :help: Although Marion has improved immensely since many of those matches were played and Dushevina is a renowned choker so hope for a QF at least here.

Drine
Jun 14th, 2010, 03:23 PM
Straight sets win over Dushevina 6-4 7-5 :cheer:
Very encouraging result for Marion ;)
Next opponent: Govortsova or Szavay

Ferg
Jun 14th, 2010, 03:24 PM
Great win, winneable next round. :woohoo:

bruce goose
Jun 14th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Great win, winneable next round. :woohoo:Yes,I agree on both counts....It's always good when you can open a tourney by defeating a nemesis...and Olga & Agnes are both erratic,though talented,players.I suppose that Szavay is the bigger threat but Marion is better than either,IMO

Iceland
Jun 14th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Decent win :yeah:

I hope she goes deep enough to afford a good show on a TV court before next week or Im going to miss her best tennis of the year! Won't be anywhere near my TV this Summer and I need Marion to finally play her real tennis.
She has an interesting draw till SF, it would already be nice to see her again at this step. And then, who knows? She's too good not to have a title on grass.

Ferg
Jun 14th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Lets hope Maria Jose does us a favour and takes out Bepa. Even though shes not the player she was, and its grass, I'd still worry about her. I think Marion could take Wozniacki on grass. Same goes for Rezai.

Ferg
Jun 14th, 2010, 04:24 PM
God I hope she takes this tournament seriously. She badly needs race points.

Tennisking5
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:07 PM
she will do well her. she won the first round i think 7-5, 6-4? or viseversa, but hopefully she can continue into the second round and beat woz. she can beat woz, doesnt she still have ankle issues?

Marionated
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:03 PM
She should beat Szavay on grass.

Ferg
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:09 PM
Im sure Marion wont make it that far but at least Radwanska is gone from the draw, just in case Marion decides she wants to go for the title this time!

Marionated
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:13 PM
Just to let you all know, even though you probably won't want to watch it :lol:, the AO QF highlights video against Vera is up on Youtube.

bruce goose
Jun 15th, 2010, 03:07 PM
If I had to guess,I'd say that Szavay has SMOKED a bit of grass.....but that she won't beat Marion:hearts: while playing tennis on it

Drine
Jun 16th, 2010, 02:57 PM
Good win for Marion against Szavay 3-6 6-4 6-4 :cheer:
What about a little QF against Aravane ? :cool: :)

Ferg
Jun 16th, 2010, 02:58 PM
Thank god for that win. :sobbing: What a battle. But the win is what counts. I'd be optimistic about both opponents next, I think she could absorb Rezai's power, move her around and expose her poor footwork and make her commit errors. And Maria Jose wouldnt probably have the game to trouble Marion too much, dropshots side.

bruce goose
Jun 16th, 2010, 03:30 PM
Thank god for that win. :sobbing: What a battle. But the win is what counts. I'd be optimistic about both opponents next, I think she could absorb Rezai's power, move her around and expose her poor footwork and make her commit errors. And Maria Jose wouldnt probably have the game to trouble Marion too much, dropshots side.Let's just hope that,if she plays Rezai,her next match won't end like their previous encounter did:eek:.I'm a little concerned with the frequency at which injuries occur with Marion

Ferg
Jun 16th, 2010, 03:33 PM
MJMS finding it pretty easy at the moment. I'd prefer Marion to play her to be honest. I wouldnt want to run the risk of French #2 beating French #1...

Marionated
Jun 16th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Pepa is cruising at the moment.

Ferg
Jun 16th, 2010, 03:33 PM
^^ Posted it at the same time :lol:

Marionated
Jun 16th, 2010, 03:34 PM
:lol: I think Marion can beat either on grass but then Kim :help:

Ferg
Jun 16th, 2010, 03:37 PM
Yeah, little chance against Kim but as long as she defends her points I'd be happy enough. Not sure even if Kim wasnt there would she try to win it. We'll see what happens I suppose! Grass would probably be her best chance to beat her.

Marionated
Jun 16th, 2010, 03:43 PM
Grass is definitely the best surface for Marion to get a Kim win, but I just can't see it happening if they do meet. Kim's just a really bad match-up for her.

But it would be a great shame if Marion doesn't win a grass tournament in her career.

Marionated
Jun 16th, 2010, 04:01 PM
Aravane retired.
Should be a good match against Pepa since they have such different styles. Hope it's televised.

Ferg
Jun 16th, 2010, 04:18 PM
Marion should try to dictate and not let MJMS play her game. Ill be happy with the victor but Marion should get her 4th straight semi here!

Lighter
Jun 16th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Tomorrow, Marion in 1st position on court 1 : start at 11:30

Ferg
Jun 16th, 2010, 07:35 PM
Is court 1 televised? :scared:

Ferg
Jun 16th, 2010, 08:01 PM
Oh no, its not.:( Agi and Marion were 1-1 in the H2H before today, a chance for Marion to do the exac same tomorrow.

bruce goose
Jun 17th, 2010, 12:38 AM
Here I am groping in optimism again...but maybe Marion can be a transition champion like Novotna...who won Wimby in between the grass dominance periods of Navratilova/Graf and Serena/Venus.....The WS are family-oriented types,so they might start craving kids as their biological clocks tick away......and that could open a door for Marion:hearts:

Drine
Jun 17th, 2010, 01:35 PM
What a match between MJMS and Marion, wow :eek:
Very tight match 5-7 6-4 7-6 :worship: Marion did very well in the end, congrats Marion :cheer:

Ferg
Jun 17th, 2010, 01:35 PM
Amaaaazing match, too much for words. Only 4 breaks.... amazing.

Lighter
Jun 17th, 2010, 01:42 PM
I went in the garden during the tie-break. Too difficult for me to follow the livescore. This girl is definitly crazy.

epic 2009 matchs from Marion :
- vs Sugi in Dubaï
- vs JJ in Stanford
- vs Pavlyu in Tokyo
- vs Zvo in Beijing

Six Feet Under
Jun 17th, 2010, 01:58 PM
:haha: i got really nervous too and didnt look at 5-5 duece and at 6-5 in the tb :rolls:

Ferg
Jun 17th, 2010, 01:59 PM
Kim or Vika next... Id fancy her chances against Vika, Kim not so much. She'll probably retire anyway. :sobbing:

bruce goose
Jun 17th, 2010, 03:51 PM
VERY nice o get a win over a tough server like MJMS on grass:cool:;I like Marion's chances if she can hit lots of good low balls around Vika's ankles

Ferg
Jun 17th, 2010, 07:59 PM
Marion 2nd on Centre tomorrow. Someone said Vika was limping a bit today but we'll see how it goes. If her knees are troubling her then hopefully Marion can take advantage and NOT tank.

Leucoptera
Jun 18th, 2010, 07:47 AM
Amazing four semi streak for Marion in Eastbourne.

Good luck against Vika, everything is possible.

Lighter
Jun 18th, 2010, 09:28 AM
In l'équipe today, Big head title : "I want to play finals".

From journalist who was at the match, it was a high quality and very intensive tie. Marion explains that she played a lot of matches with windy conditions in Rhône valley when she was young. And it helped her so much.

Journalist also explains that a MJMS fan preferred to escape from the court when Marion became so angry at 0-2 third set. Waouh...

Ferg
Jun 18th, 2010, 10:48 AM
Schiavone vs Dushevina
Pironkova vs Lapushchenkova
Kulikova vs South
Hercog vs Shvedova

Martinez Sanchez vs Arn
Kucova vs Molik
Martic vs Baltacha
Goerges vs Bartoli

Peer vs Ivanovic
Mirza vs Kerber
Voracova vs Groth
Groenefeld vs Safina

Kleybanova vs Zahlavova
Arvidsson vs Kudryavtseva
Makarova vs Szavay
De Los Rios vs Williams V.

Ferg
Jun 18th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Very tough draw, but I dont think the quarter finals are beyond her. Some of those players will be tough, but if Marion plays well I think she can make it to a Venus match. I ope she does at least, losing to the finalist/winner would be much more respectful than losing to some randomer again. :scared:

First two rounds are very winneable. I'd be very wary about MJMS since apparently they slowed the grass in WImbledon down a lot for some idiotic reason. Then Schiavone, probably the best top 8 seed she could have hoped for in R4.

Lighter
Jun 18th, 2010, 11:39 AM
With maybe a R2 vs Baltacha on central court.

Marionated
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:14 PM
Most of the match= Marion passively hitting the ball down the centre until Azarenka found the angle or hit with enough depth to force a short ball :rolleyes:

Ferg
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:17 PM
Im getting unsure about her returning game. 3 breaks in 2 matches against players who dont have particularly reknowned serves is slightly worrying....

Still, defended her points, onto Wimbledon. If she doesnt take advantage of that draw Ill be sick.

Marionated
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:18 PM
And she didn't retire :lol:

I don't recall Julia.G playing this grass court season.

Six Feet Under
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:20 PM
It was a fairly good match today, nothing to be ashamed about

Call me a dreamer but i wanna see a quarter at wimbledon, i know you can do it :)

Goerges is a pretty bombshell who has the shots to beat the best, marion has to stay consistent and she will win

Marionated
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:21 PM
Too many notable players Marion has never beaten :sobbing:
0-3 vs Azarenka, Ivanovic, Sharapova and Kim
0-5 vs Radwanska
And others.

Marionated
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Well I think she will get through her first two matches.

She barely beat Marajo this week so we can't underestimate her.

And then there's Fran who is 4-1 against her and beat her 7-6 6-0 last year.

Lighter
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Most of the match= Marion passively hitting the ball down the centre until Azarenka found the angle or hit with enough depth to force a short ball :rolleyes:Except beginning of 2nd set. And she led 2-1 30:00. But Vika killed her with 3 huge forehands.

Marionated
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Except beginning of 2nd set. And she led 2-1 30:00. But Vika killed her with 3 huge forehands.

The best she played was the first two points at 4-5 imo.

Lighter
Jun 18th, 2010, 02:44 PM
The best she played was the first two points at 4-5 imo.i missed some games, especially these one.

Vika was more agressive.

Ferg
Jun 18th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Im hoping someone takes Fran out :scared:

bruce goose
Jun 18th, 2010, 05:51 PM
The best she played was the first two points at 4-5 imo.I'm disappointed with the NATURE of the loss AND the defeat itself,but I'll be happy if Marion plays to her full potential at the Big W....VAMOS,MARION!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Chakvenus
Jun 18th, 2010, 08:51 PM
not the worst draw ever, and i actually do think a QF is possible.
Schiavone went down to the slumping Cirstea this week, so she likely will be gotten rid of before she has to meet Marion.
bring back your form here from 2007!!

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2010, 07:00 PM
MJMS out.. A big pity for her, I liker her and her game but this is good for Marion. I feel guilty now. :sobbing: She has no excuse not to get to the fourth round now.

bruce goose
Jun 19th, 2010, 07:17 PM
MJMS out.. A big pity for her, I liker her and her game but this is good for Marion. I feel guilty now. :sobbing: She has no excuse not to get to the fourth round now.The flip side to that is that it'll be even MORe aggravating if she doesn't make it with the easier draw:eek:

Ferg
Jun 19th, 2010, 07:20 PM
The flip side to that is that it'll be even MORe aggravating if she doesn't make it with the easier draw:eek:

oh noes dont say that :hysteric:

Six Feet Under
Jun 19th, 2010, 09:30 PM
marion please help her if she doesnt make it to the 4th round :sobbing:

Six Feet Under
Jun 19th, 2010, 09:47 PM
arn def marion 3rd round :sobbing:

Marionated
Jun 20th, 2010, 07:37 AM
Gutted for Marajo. If Marion doesn't reach the second week now...

Drine
Jun 20th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Marion's playing tomorrow. She's scheduled first on court 18 at 12:00 (local time) ;)

Ferg
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:01 PM
Good, I can follow that.

bruce goose
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:38 PM
If you all will pardon the bad pun,after having had Dushevina at Eastbourne,this is Marion's:hearts: second straight 'goerges' 1st-round opponent...and let's hope for a similar,straight-set win

Drine
Jun 21st, 2010, 12:34 PM
Marion def. Goerges 6-4 6-3 :cheer:
Goerges is very talented but Marion's been pretty solid today :) Good start Marion :yeah:

Ferg
Jun 21st, 2010, 12:36 PM
Convincng apart from the trouble closing the sets out. Baltacha choking against Martic in the 2nd set so its up in the air there.

Lighter
Jun 21st, 2010, 12:38 PM
Always the same difficulties to close sets on her own serve. Sure she's not happy with that.

Good win for a start.

1 set all : Martic-Baltacha

Six Feet Under
Jun 21st, 2010, 12:40 PM
Good win Mari!

Julia 35W/26UE
Marion 20W/9UE

Lighter
Jun 21st, 2010, 01:22 PM
R2 : Marion will finally play young and talented Petra Martic.

Ferg
Jun 21st, 2010, 01:30 PM
Martic will be like a lamb to the slaughter.

bruce goose
Jun 21st, 2010, 04:52 PM
Way to go,Marion!:kiss::)Though I expected you to win,the result is pleasing nonetheless:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Lighter
Jun 21st, 2010, 05:35 PM
From Wimby site :

"But then, in an instant, Baltacha’s confidence evaporated. Suddenly, the vision of a second round encounter with Marion Bartoli, the No.11 seed and the 6-4, 6-3 winner over Julia Goerges, rose up before her. Taking her eye off the ball for a moment, she dropped her serve, went on to lose the set and had to start all over again."

Funny or sad story ?

Ferg
Jun 21st, 2010, 05:38 PM
OKAY, she has no excuse for not getting to the quarter finals now, unless Yari has one of her crazy good days.

bruce goose
Jun 21st, 2010, 08:06 PM
From Wimby site :

"But then, in an instant, Baltacha’s confidence evaporated. Suddenly, the vision of a second round encounter with Marion Bartoli, the No.11 seed and the 6-4, 6-3 winner over Julia Goerges, rose up before her. Taking her eye off the ball for a moment, she dropped her serve, went on to lose the set and had to start all over again."

Funny or sad story ?Funny or sad??.....Maybe a little of both:lol:.Marion:hearts:,the juicy-lipped intimidator

Bartoli's Boy
Jun 21st, 2010, 10:26 PM
A good start for Marion. Coming through is all that matters at this stage.

I would like to have seen the end of the second set, but BBC interactive decided to switch the feed to a men's match. :o

Also, I thought it was funny how they had to replay a point because a tissue fell out of Julia's bag. I saw that coming when she failed to properly secure the tissue after they came onto court. :p I was thinking "she should have pushed that further into the bag or it's gonna fly away", and then it did.

Don't the rules of tennis seem so ridiculous sometimes? The football players at the World Cup manage to keep playing with those stupid horns blaring out all the time, and thousands of fans shouting obsceneties at them, but tennis players can't possibly carry on when a tissue falls out of a bag. :lol:

bruce goose
Jun 22nd, 2010, 12:40 AM
A good start for Marion. Coming through is all that matters at this stage.

I would like to have seen the end of the second set, but BBC interactive decided to switch the feed to a men's match. :o

Also, I thought it was funny how they had to replay a point because a tissue fell out of Julia's bag. I saw that coming when she failed to properly secure the tissue after they came onto court. :p I was thinking "she should have pushed that further into the bag or it's gonna fly away", and then it did.

Don't the rules of tennis seem so ridiculous sometimes? The football players at the World Cup manage to keep playing with those stupid horns blaring out all the time, and thousands of fans shouting obsceneties at them, but tennis players can't possibly carry on when a tissue falls out of a bag. :lol:^^:pIf I attended one of Marion's matches,I might eat lots of prunes just so that I could let out some loud,audible farts precisely when her opponent was serving:devil:....Anything to help the Marion Cause:)

Lighter
Jun 22nd, 2010, 06:55 PM
Tomorrow on Court 12 12:00
Petra Martic(CRO) vs. Marion Bartoli(FRA)[11]
Feliciano Lopez(ESP)[22] vs. Ricardas Berankis(LTU)
Yanina Wickmayer(BEL)[15] vs. Kirsten Flipkens(BEL)
Daniel Brands(GER) vs. Nikolay Davydenko(RUS)[7]

Ferg
Jun 22nd, 2010, 06:57 PM
Court 12? Goddamn. Oh well.

Lighter
Jun 22nd, 2010, 07:09 PM
Marion wins R2 by WO : http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/draws/ws/r2s2.html

Ferg
Jun 22nd, 2010, 07:22 PM
Wow, thats a massive surprise, it always is I suppose... Points defended now. She really has been blessed this year at Wimbledon.

bruce goose
Jun 22nd, 2010, 07:23 PM
Marion wins R2 by WO : http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/draws/ws/r2s2.htmlDo you know what happened to young Petra?I'm glad that Marion is advancing,but I hope that it's nothing serious for the Croat gal

nicky-j-c
Jun 22nd, 2010, 09:59 PM
looking at the draw, Marion is probably the face to make the quarters in her section now! c'mon marion!!

Ferg
Jun 22nd, 2010, 11:33 PM
Jo asked about the football too, he was far less forthcoming than Marion :spit:


Q. I take it you dragged yourself away from the television, or you cannot bear to watch what's going on on the soccer field.

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: Yeah. And?

Q. Would you rather be watching the French game now?

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: No, no. I'm here.

Q. But was it difficult to come here now rather than...

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: No. It's not a problem. It's okay.

Q. Okay. We'll talk tennis then.

JO‑WILFRIED TSONGA: We'll talk tennis.

bruce goose
Jun 23rd, 2010, 01:27 AM
Does anyone have concern that Marion:hearts: might go flat with the 'bye' into the 3rd Round??I could speculate on her mindset...but then I'd have to pretend that I understood women:o...and I'm not gonna tell such an absurd lie:angel:

Alizé Molik
Jun 23rd, 2010, 01:53 AM
trust me playing less has never hurt marion before :D

bruce goose
Jun 23rd, 2010, 02:32 AM
trust me playing less has never hurt marion before :DYour poster name just reminded me that Marion might play Ms.Molik in her next match.Alicia is the kind of gal who doesn't necessarily blow you away with her looks...but is pretty enough to keep you content.I can picture her sitting on my lap as we cheered for opposing football teams on TV...then,when HER team lost,I'd tickle her on the belly button to get her REALLY aroused:hearts:........I better stop right there since we might have younger folk visiting the forum:angel:.....Anyhow,my point is that I sorta like Molik but I'll still be pulling strongly for Marion to beat her...no offense meant;)

Tennisking5
Jun 23rd, 2010, 03:23 AM
i feel bad for petra. hope its nothing too serious. i can breathe tomorrow knowing marion is into the 3rd fresh. good luck marion!

Lighter
Jun 23rd, 2010, 05:41 AM
Do you know what happened to young Petra?I'm glad that Marion is advancing,but I hope that it's nothing serious for the Croat gali read "stomach strain".

bruce goose
Jun 23rd, 2010, 11:23 AM
i read "stomach strain".Thanks,Lighter.THat sounds a little strange for an early default but,hey,it's her Wimbledon,so she has to live with herself if her injury wasn't that serious

Marionated
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:20 PM
Poor Petra :hug:
Please don't blow this draw Marion :hysteric:

Ferg
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:31 PM
Now its looking like Yari and Vera, imo both of the biggest possible threats in R4, are going out too. :weirdo:

Marionated
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:50 PM
Vera is out.

Marionated
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:52 PM
I have a horrible feeling she's going to blow it.

Ferg
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:53 PM
R3 vs. Arn, R4 against Kulikova or Pironkova... ranked 136, 69 and 82 respectively :scared:

Six Feet Under
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:54 PM
Marion's draw to Quarters

Tsveti v Kulikova
Marion vs. Arn

FFS if she doesnt make the quarters the knife is coming out.

Ferg
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:57 PM
If she doesnt make the quarters, I really dont know what Ill do. Something drastic.

Marionated
Jun 23rd, 2010, 12:57 PM
:hysteric: Just take it one match at a time.

Lighter
Jun 23rd, 2010, 02:18 PM
SM and Marion were at the match : Arn-Molik

Concerning Martic's injury : http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12110_6224502,00.html

bruce goose
Jun 23rd, 2010, 07:15 PM
Folks,Greta Arn has a track record of causing havoc in MDs from qualifying....she won her only tournament that way....Can't remember for sure...maybe it was Estoril...2007 or 2008...but we need to help our poster Alize Molik get his revenge:devil:...so kick some ass,:hearts:Marion!:cool:

Lighter
Jun 24th, 2010, 07:15 PM
Marion 1st position on court 12 tomorrow.

bruce goose
Jun 24th, 2010, 08:05 PM
Marion 1st position on court 12 tomorrow.I'll be heading to work right about then,so I'll be expecting a detailed report from you other Marionettes when I get back.VAMOS,MARION:hearts:!!!:bounce::bounce:

Ferg
Jun 24th, 2010, 08:16 PM
Hmm, I can watch that. She better not screw this up!

Marionated
Jun 24th, 2010, 08:44 PM
I think I have to go out at that time :mad:
Good luck Marion.

Alizé Molik
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:50 AM
be warned! Arn is a lot better than you might think based on her ranking/past results! She has a rly strong serve and hit something like 25 W to 14 UE against Molik and gave the impression that she never even made a mistake!

Ferg
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:57 AM
Marion will have to buck up on her returning so because its been below average the past few weeks...

bruce goose
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:58 AM
Yeah,that's what I posted on the previous page(post #116)....Arn has these occasional fluke runs where she plays well above her ranking level...and then she drops back to normal.She made the Warsaw semis from qualifying a little over a month ago...and her only title was won when she ran thru qualies,too

Six Feet Under
Jun 25th, 2010, 11:14 AM
arn def marion 3rd round :sobbing:

:scared:
Please dont let this happen!

Drine
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:43 PM
Marion wins 6-3 6-4 :bounce:
Not much to be said here, she played solid tennis today and has done the job ;)
Next round against Pironkova or Kulikova..... winnable :p

Marionated
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:45 PM
So happy to see her back into the 4th round and justifying her seeding.

Lighter
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Solid match from Marion. She broke two times like vs Julia.

Imo, she doesn't want to overplay for the moment.

Marionated
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Yes, but if she does get to the quarter-finals and plays Venus, she will have to take risks. Otherwise :help:

Ferg
Jun 25th, 2010, 12:59 PM
Nice win. Not too great but very solid. Kulikova or Pironkova next, surely Marion should be able to beat both of them... Ill post my fears for a match vs. Venus after her 4th round, cus I dont want to jinx Marion :tears:

Ferg
Jun 25th, 2010, 01:00 PM
Oh, and getting to a 4th round is nice, especially here.

Marionated
Jun 25th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Kulikova is quite good. She beat Alisa here last year. But Marion has never played her.
3-0 Pironkova.

This is just the sixth time Marion has reached the second week of a major, which makes it even better. And people can talk about cakewalk draws all they want. Marion has beaten Justine, Jelena and Lindsay at the slams, and had to play Kim at the US early on last year.

Ferg
Jun 25th, 2010, 01:33 PM
Pironkova takes the first set... I'd prefer Marion to play her because at least Marion knows what to expect and has beaten her everytime they played before, and since Kulikova is very much an unknown quantity.

Marionated
Jun 25th, 2010, 01:52 PM
And a break up in the second.

Ferg
Jun 25th, 2010, 02:03 PM
Well, Pironkova it is.... Poor Kulikova.

H2H 3-0

2007 Indian Wells, Bartoli def. Pironkova 6-1 6-2
2008 New Haven, Bartoli def. Pironkova 2-6 6-4 7-5
2009 Australian Open, Bartoli def. Pironkova 7-5 6-2

Marionated
Jun 25th, 2010, 02:04 PM
Draws like this don't come about often.

Lighter
Jun 25th, 2010, 02:45 PM
Marion speaks here : http://www.fft.fr/wimbledon/2010/?ID=6303

She explains that 3 days off is a little bit too much. She of course knows Pironkova's game (weird one). And smiles how off or on she can be.

bruce goose
Jun 25th, 2010, 03:23 PM
Draws like this don't come about often.Yeah,on paper it definitely hasn't been the toughest draw,but Arn is much tougher than her ranking would indicate....and she's at least as good as Rodionova...whom Kuzy couldn't beat....Just one step at a time,Marion:hearts::)

AnDrEi.b
Jun 25th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Yeah,on paper it definitely hasn't been the toughest draw,but Arn is much tougher than her ranking would indicate....and she's at least as good as Rodionova...whom Kuzy couldn't beat....Just one step at a time,Marion:hearts::)

I totally agree

Ferg
Jun 25th, 2010, 04:02 PM
The Wimbledon website is pretty good for putting Marion's interviews up this year

M Bartoli - 25 June
Friday, 25 June 2010Q. How do you think you played today?

MARION BARTOLI: Well, I think I played pretty consistent. You know, I had a walkover in the second round, so it was not easy to come back the court. Feels like ‑‑ I have three days off in a row, and it feels almost like another tournament was starting.

I just stayed focused. She had some really good stroke on the breakpoint. The second set I thought I could win the second set at 6‑2 or 6‑1. I mean, not that close at 6‑4, but she came up with some great shot. I just stayed focused towards the end.

Q. Any parts of your game that you particularly want to work ongoing forward?

MARION BARTOLI: Well, I think there is not too much to improve. I think it's just a little bit sometimes on the return of serve I could do better.

But my serve was very good today. My groundstroke is pretty good as well. So I think maybe the return of serve. Sometimes I can return better than this.

Q. And you've done well here before. What do you need as a player to do well at Wimbledon?

MARION BARTOLI: Oh, my gosh. There is not really like a miracle key or something. First of all, you have to feel comfortable on grass, and then it's a matter of luck. Also sometimes a little bit you have to have some quite easy match in the first week so save some energy for the second one.

Grass is a very tough surface. You have to be so focused all the time. The scoreboard can change very quickly. So I think you have to be really focused and it's in the head.

Q. My last question: Can you make the final?

MARION BARTOLI: Well, I made it once already, so that's already...

Q. That's why I'm asking.

MARION BARTOLI: I think I will pretty much have a chance every year I will play this.

Q. There is some strapping on your hand. What is that?

MARION BARTOLI: Yeah, I am having that since six years, so it's not new. Yeah, I had pretty bad hematoma on my finger six years ago during the summer in the U.S.

I was playing a lot of the matches, and I was playing with a racquet a that was bit too heavy for me and my finger was damage, so I had to play the US Open with a glove. It was really difficult to feel anything.

From then, I have to always put a tape on my finger if I want to play tennis. It's just too painful if I'm just going on the court and take the racquet like that.

Q. The the next round looks like an unseeded opponent, and after that possibly could be Venus. How do you feel about that?

MARION BARTOLI: Well, I just want to focus first of all on the next one. Every match is difficult to win, no matter what is the opponent at other side of your net and what's her ranking is.

But if I'm winning and I have to play against Venus, it will be a great match to look forward to.

Lighter
Jun 27th, 2010, 09:06 AM
Marion 1st on court 5 tomorrow.

Good article found by SM : http://twitter.com/bartolifanblog

bruce goose
Jun 27th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Marion 1st on court 5 tomorrow.

Good article found by SM : http://twitter.com/bartolifanblogFirst,you can tell SM that her Latino Muzzle Kiss is waiting for her on her next vacation to Mexico but,back on a tennis front,I'm fairly confident that Marion will advance to the QFs...and that,barring an injury,Venus will be her opponent there...........We'll just have to take it from there:unsure:

Six Feet Under
Jun 27th, 2010, 03:24 PM
GOAT Article :bowdown:
She even knew about the on court fridge! :inlove:

Six Feet Under
Jun 27th, 2010, 03:25 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jun/27/wimbledon-marion-bartoli-tennis

Bartoli's Boy
Jun 27th, 2010, 04:33 PM
I just read that article in the "dead tree edition" of the Guardian. :p Unfortunately they chose a much worse picture for the article than online. They used a shot of Marion's face just before she hits the ball, with her eyes popping out. :o I'm sure they had other pictures they could have used, so I don't know why they chose one that makes her look so bad.

Also, while the article is quite sympathetic to Marion, the writer both laments how she has been cruelly targeted about her body shape, but then forces her to answer a question about it. :rolleyes: She's a beautiful woman who has a different body shape to the other elite tennis players, but that's not her fault and it's not a bad thing either. Even the writer admits that in person she looks quite a normal size, so why do they keep going on about it? It's the same on Eurosport, because there is never a Marion match without the commentators mentioning that she "doesn't look like a tennis player". I actually shout at the TV, because you know, they said that the last time, and the time before.

OK rant over. :lol:

leviathane
Jun 27th, 2010, 06:22 PM
Go Marion !!!
You need some points for the race, only 23 :tape:

bruce goose
Jun 27th, 2010, 06:22 PM
Commenting on the post above,only brainwashed idiots think that models' bodies are attractive(there are rare exceptions);women are supposed to have CURVES....a truth that,thankfully,we still hold to in Latin America despite the crap that's shown from European or American media.Marion's buns:drool: are HIGHLY appreciated in Mexico,let me assure all of you.......but we ARE a little sore that she didn't come back to defend her 2009 Monterrey title:(.....A big kiss from her juicy lips will be adequate apology:hearts::hearts:

Alizé Molik
Jun 28th, 2010, 04:37 AM
unfortunantly commentators don't assume they're talking to an educated tennis fanship, they assume (probably correctly) that they're talking to a person who's just tuned in and has never seen a match before, or heard of the players. This is why they give the same introduction to some players and saythe same comments like we haven't heard them before!

But seriously i loved the Pierce Brosnan comments; "We have 35 years difference, but to me Pierce Brosnan is still looking very nice. I thought: I cannot play bad in front of him." :lol:

Ferg
Jun 28th, 2010, 01:13 PM
She had points for 4-1, 4-2, 5-3 5-4 in the first, 2-1, 5-4 in the second. Shes a freaking idiot.

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 01:16 PM
07 was a fluke.

She hasn't beaten a top 10 player on grass since then. I'm just so disappointed right now.

Clueless net approaches, first serve nowhere near as good as in her previous round, a billion unconverted game points, and her strokes are just not powerful enough. She looks like a pusher compared to the likes of Groth and Kvitova.

Ferg
Jun 28th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Right, we'll see in a few weeks after Wimbledon finishes whether I'll have gotten over this, cus right now Im so angry Ive given up on her as a fan.

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 01:29 PM
I don't think you should give up on her. It's not like she tanked, she just didn't play well.

It's just suprising how weak her strokes have become. Like Viktymise said in gm, Marion just couldn't outhit her. Watch Kvitova who is currently 4-1 up vs Wozniacki. Compare her strokes to Marion's. The difference is huge.

Bartoli's Boy
Jun 28th, 2010, 04:05 PM
Gutted. :tears:

bruce goose
Jun 28th, 2010, 05:12 PM
Ummmmmmm.....Marion,the only thing that makes this even remotely tolerable is that you would've faced Venus...and almost surely lost......other than THAT,I'll need some recovery time Sugar Buns:o

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 05:47 PM
Yes, it's disappointing, but it's not the worst I've felt after a Marion loss. The round of 16 loss to Bammer at the US open a few years ago when Marion was sick and had 2-1 40-0 in the 3rd set is probably the worst for me. Bammer didn't even play well that day, Pironkova did play well today for example, Marion had 4 game points in one of her service games and Pironkova SAVED all of them. Marion should have served better, but that's tennis for you. I really wanted her to get to the 4th round at least and she did.

Tbh, I don't think Marion has played well all year and therefore doesn't have the confidence to play high risk tennis anymore, which is what she needed to do to win this match. And movement will always be an issue, hence the 40+ winners by Pironkova. It's likely that Marion will spend the next few years around the top 20/15, having the odd great tournament here and there (last the year, the Australian open, Stanford and Bejing), but she'll never be able to perform consistently well because she simply isn't good enough to do so :shrug:

bruce goose
Jun 28th, 2010, 05:55 PM
Hopefully,you're wrong,Conor.....Marion DID make YEC one year and,although she'll never be a jackrabbit on court,I think she could do MUCH more to improve her overall fitness.Even though I like her womanly curves,I wouldn't say that she was in peak athletic condition by quite a stretch

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Hopefully,you're wrong,Conor.....Marion DID make YEC one year and,although she'll never be a jackrabbit on court,I think she could do MUCH more to improve her overall fitness.Even though I like her womanly curves,I wouldn't say that she was in peak athletic condition by quite a stretch

Her shape and fitness levels have has fluctuated over the years. She could be in better shape, yes, but she's certainly in better shape than in Bejing last year where, after the great win over nemesis Vera, she looked exhausted the next day against other nemesis Radwanska. Her fitness didn't cost her this match.

bruce goose
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:10 PM
Her shape and fitness levels have has fluctuated over the years. She could be in better shape, yes, but she's certainly in better shape than in Bejing last year where, after the great win over nemesis Vera, she looked exhausted the next day against other nemesis Radwanska. Her fitness didn't cost her this match.Sorry for my lack of clarity;I wasn't implying that she lost today b/c of fitness issues,but you spoke of consistency in Marion's career......and poor fitness can be a MAJOR contributor to inconsistency:o

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:23 PM
Another major factor is the inconsistency of her serve. She served 8 aces against Arn and Many unreturnables, but today she just span a lot of her first serves in. It just wasn't firing when she really needed it, whereas someone like Serverena pretty much knows how that she is going to serve huge from one tournament to the next.

But fitness has actually cost her some matches. See the Paris indoor semi vs Chakvetadze a few years ago where she was cruising a set and a break up and then injured her back because of her conditioning and didn't win a game. To this day, I believe she won have won that tier 2 title had she been in better shape at the time :sad: but we all remember that the first half of 08 (where she was giving out top 10 wins left, right and centre) was probably the worst tennis of her career, and that was primarily due to her fitness.

Ferg
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:36 PM
Did she have glandular fever? I remember hearing she said it after Eastbourne 08, but didnt acually see any articles on it.

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:43 PM
I think she was suffering from some illness- mononucleosis like Federer?(it can't been that bad though as it didn't prevent either from playing tennis,) but it is not an excuse for the awful shape she was in (not that I'm implying you're saying it is Ferg.)

Anyway I think now we should just look foward to the rest of the year. Notable points to defend:
.Stanford champion
.Bejing semi-finalist
.Tokyo Quarter-finalist
.Bali final

Points to gain:
.Cincinatti
.LA
.Toronto
.New Haven

Not that she will play all of these
.US open
. And maybe she could play an international tournament like last year where she retired against Mirza. If she does, hopefully she chooses Linz. She's amazing to watch indoors.

Ferg
Jun 28th, 2010, 06:53 PM
Oh yeah she was in terrible shape but I was just never sure whether she was or not, and thought that was asgood a time as ever to ask when you mentioned her terrible 2008.

This was a valuable place to gain a lot of points, both for her ranking and for Doha. Big pity.

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 07:00 PM
I don't think Doha is realistic.

She has still gained some points, since she lost R3 last year, and she's got plenty of points to gain during the US summer hardcourt season.

And there's no chance of her drawing Kim early on like she did last year in Cincinatti and New York. If it weren't for Kim last year, I think she would have at least made the 3rd round/quarter-finals of Cincy and would have reached the 4th round in New York. Marion was just very unfortunate with the draws.

bruce goose
Jun 28th, 2010, 07:12 PM
Don't know if this makes a difference to you two guys,but it CAN get much worse as you see from my sig.....Although she HAS won a Slam,Ana is undergoing one of the most pathetic mental meltdowns in modern sporting history.I get MUCH more satisfaction from Marion's career,warts and all

Ferg
Jun 28th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Doha is pretty much out of the question now but 500 points plus her best part of the season to come couldve at least had her within distance of the tp 10 spots, I wonder if shes regretting not playing more MMs now, for Bali.

Marionated
Jun 28th, 2010, 09:02 PM
I don't think she's interested in Bali, hence her decision not to defend her Monterrey title.

Alizé Molik
Jun 29th, 2010, 09:09 AM
you know what the scariest part of this loss is for me? I don't even feel upset like i did last year when she lost to schiavone and i said she should kill herself...im so used to it now.

bruce goose
Jun 29th, 2010, 11:29 AM
you know what the scariest part of this loss is for me? I don't even feel upset like i did last year when she lost to schiavone and i said she should kill herself...im so used to it now.Yeah,I was pretty pissed last year,too....but,honestly,I thought she might even lose to Greta Arn....so that win saved me from the full impact of disappointment

Marionated
Jun 29th, 2010, 11:49 AM
And she didn't tank like last year :)

Ferg
Jun 29th, 2010, 12:51 PM
Now I dont feel so bad....

Marionated
Jun 29th, 2010, 12:53 PM
You read my mind Ferg :lol:

Pironkova moves so well on grass.

Ferg
Jun 29th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Wow, she beat her... I really dont feel so bad.

Marionated
Jun 29th, 2010, 01:44 PM
We can't feel bad after this.

But I wanted Venus to win. It's a bye for Serena to the championship now.

leviathane
Jun 29th, 2010, 03:45 PM
Venus lost too !!!
Marion win more games :rolleyes:

sCoTt.ChE.
Jun 30th, 2010, 01:27 AM
Disappointing Marion was only in the second week for a tiny spell. Just unfortunate for Marion really, thats two years where she's had players having random good grass campaigns when never before, beating her along the way.
A strong hard court campaign isn't out of the question, some tough points to defend though.

bruce goose
Jun 30th, 2010, 07:40 PM
I wonder now if Marion could've also beaten Venus at Vee's diminished level of play.....or would VW have gotten more amped in facing a bigger threat like Marion??We'll never know.....(sigh)

Marionated
Jun 30th, 2010, 07:44 PM
I wonder now if Marion could've also beaten Venus at Vee's diminished level of play.....or would VW have gotten more amped in facing a bigger threat like Marion??We'll never know.....(sigh)

Pironkova moves much better than Marion on grass and mixes her game up with the forehand slice, whereas Marion would give Venus the slam flat ball again and again. It's a different match-up. But as you said, we'll never know.

bruce goose
Jun 30th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Pironkova moves much better than Marion on grass and mixes her game up with the forehand slice, whereas Marion would give Venus the slam flat ball again and again. It's a different match-up. But as you said, we'll never know.Marion is several years younger than Fran,but I can't help wondering if this year was her 'Schiavone moment'...what with Venus playing poorly and Serena having a sore shoulder that'll only get more and more aggravated with her forceful serve....Maybe Serena isn't hurt that badly...in which case my speculation wouldn't be so valid

Ferg
Jun 30th, 2010, 10:24 PM
Marion is several years younger than Fran,but I can't help wondering if this year was her 'Schiavone moment'...what with Venus playing poorly and Serena having a sore shoulder that'll only get more and more aggravated with her forceful serve....Maybe Serena isn't hurt that badly...in which case my speculation wouldn't be so valid

Just one thing: LOOK AT PIRONKOVAS OPPONENT :sobbing: