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Mrs. Berasetegui
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:33 AM
In America she would be considered normal size. I think she's a size 10.

Rafito.
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:43 AM
She would be considered normal size in every country, But she is not the right size for a tennis player.

dynamoRockstarr
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:48 AM
She would be considered normal size in every country, But she is not the right size for a tennis player.

good way to put it.

Kipling
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:49 AM
No way. Marion may not be Hantuchovaskinny, but she isn't remotely fat. She's a healthy young woman, period. And quite pretty. Tennis players come in all shapes and sizes. If you saw her in person, you'd probably be shocked at how "normal looking" she is.

BlackPanther.
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:51 AM
:lol: At this thread.
Bartoli is normal-wife size :shrug:

Serenita
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:51 AM
no she not plus size on my country

Dunlop1
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:58 AM
I was going to rag on her weight, then I realized I need to lose about 20lbs of my own :o

goldenlox
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:59 AM
When she is playing well, its amazing what she does given her mechanics. No tennis coach would ever teach this.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:59 AM
I was going to rag on her weight, then I realized I need to lose about 20lbs of my own :o

:p:worship:

Donny
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:04 AM
Seeing as the average woman in the US is overweight, probably not.

Gdsimmons
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:13 AM
Shes actually pretty normal. Im no expert but she looks to be between 8-12.
But I still think shes a couple of sizes above curvy and below plus size. Somewhere in between

BournemouthBoy
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:16 AM
woould Bartoli be higher ranked if she lost 20lbs?? probably not imo, maybe lower ranked.

mykarma
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:17 AM
She would be considered normal size in every country, But she is not the right size for a tennis player.
What's the right size for a tennis player when considering Davenport, Serena, Monica, and others aren't skinny young ladies?

edificio
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:19 AM
She's a normal sized person who would probably be served by a bit more toning for her chosen career. That said, she gets around the court quite well.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:19 AM
What's the right size for a tennis player when considering Davenport, Serena, Monica, and others aren't skinny young ladies?

They're all normal size to me. :shrug:

vixter
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:20 AM
It's genetics. This is how her body should be. It's not like she doesn't work out. :rolleyes: All cake jokes are very old, but sort of funny.

Ferg
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:21 AM
It's genetics. This is how her body should be. It's not like she doesn't work out. :rolleyes: All cake jokes are very old, but sort of funny.

Exactly. She could work out 10 hours a day and still wouldnt be as naturally skinny as some of the others. People jus dont seem to get it through their thick skulls. I have no problem with the jokes, some of which are funny, but the actual mean spirited bullying people do here does irk me.

pav
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:25 AM
No, make a good farm wife, help with the crutching, roast a hogget leg, a bit of drafting, fencing, all in all a good rounded sheila.

Lucas_Arg
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:51 AM
I think she is normal but here she would be a plussie.

tennisforadults
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:54 AM
Thanks OP for asking a question that needs to be asked.

She's pretty normal and moves around just as quick as any of the skinny size 8 girls. Posters who call her fat are usually the ones who need a bit of exercise themselves...

The Kaz
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:55 AM
What's the right size for a tennis player when considering Davenport, Serena, Monica, and others aren't skinny young ladies?

Exactly....:worship:

Serenita
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:57 AM
It's genetics. This is how her body should be. It's not like she doesn't work out. :rolleyes: All cake jokes are very old

THIS!

jefrilibra
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:57 AM
She is by no means fat!

Her fitness is the issue.

nfl46
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:00 AM
If I saw her in person, I WOULD NOT think she was a PROFESSIONAL tennis player. LOL. Not with that body!

tennisbum79
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:18 AM
In America she would be considered normal size. I think she's a size 10.
second that

practiceboy
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:20 AM
I think she would be considered big/chunky in Korea, so the people who are saying she would be considered normal in "every" country are wrong.

Ryan
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:21 AM
If I saw her in person, I WOULD NOT think she was a PROFESSIONAL tennis player. LOL. Not with that body!



You would also say that about Davenport, Seles, Hantuchova, Serena, and Kournikova probably. Because they're either "too big" for a tennis player, "too curvy", "too skinny" or "too model-ly". :shrug:

There really isn't ONE typical tennis player body - there's just as many as there are players really. And until Bartoli can't finish a 3-set match because she's so out of shape, there really shouldn't be people ragging on her weight/size.

LeonHart
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:13 AM
Naw, in Taiwan she'd be an 2XL for sure. Hell even I'm a large in Taiwan and I'm a small in the U.S.

gc-spurs
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:16 AM
Don't think she'd be considered fat, but if I saw her on the street I wouldn't peg her for an athlete, a word class one at that. She's not really toned at all.

tennnisfannn
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:21 AM
woould Bartoli be higher ranked if she lost 20lbs?? probably not imo, maybe lower ranked.
Perhaps serena would be higher ranked if she were normal size:devil:

treufreund
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:25 AM
Bartoli looks to have lost weight recently IMO. She looks pretty fit.

Dominic
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:29 AM
Exactly. She could work out 10 hours a day and still wouldnt be as naturally skinny as some of the others. People jus dont seem to get it through their thick skulls.

That is 100% BS and you know it. Bartoli is overweight and it is because of her eating habits and it would benifit her to lose about 15 pounds of fat.

moby
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:35 AM
Naw, in Taiwan she'd be an 2XL for sure. Hell even I'm a large in Taiwan and I'm a small in the U.S.Really? I need to go shopping in Taiwan.

Volcana
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:35 AM
In America she would be considered normal size. I think she's a size 10.You're forgetting that whole 'camera adds ten pounds' thing. Bartoli is less overweight than 95% of the people in the USA. Of course, we are pretty much the fattest country in the world ....

Wickmayer has a much more stereotypically female athlete body than Bartoli. Not more 'typical'. More 'stereo-typical'. Now compare them. Wickmayer is ranked #14, Bartoli #15. Wickmayer has 105 more points, but has played three more tournaments (meaning more bad results don;t get counted.) So over the last year, they've been pretty even.

They played today. Bartoli won in straight sets. She ran every bit as fast as Wickmayer, hit just as hard, wasn't breathing heavily between points. In performance terms, Bartoli is every bit as fit as Wickmayer, whether she looks it or not.

If you follow mma, you know that there are guys who have fought in every weight class from 155 to 205. (155, 170,.185, 205) Eventually, they settle in the weight class where they preform best. It's NOT usually the lowest weight they can make. Because they're too weak to be effective.

Venus Williams probably weight a good solid 160lbs. When you're 6'2", and have legs up to there, you can carry that around and look slender. Put it on Monica Seles, thee inches shorter, and she looked fat. She could sure a s hell play though.

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friendsita
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:53 AM
In America she would be considered normal size. I think she's a size 10.

size 10 is normal for u guys? omg! here she'll defff be considered plus size ;)

Serenita
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:55 AM
size 10 is normal for u guys? omg! here she'll defff be considered plus size ;)
and where is that?

friendsita
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:07 AM
and where is that?

Peru ;) not many "plus size" ppl in here :)

Dandy_Warhol
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:20 AM
She would be considered normal size in every country, But she is not the right size for a tennis player.

i agree.

Volcana
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:22 AM
i agree.Wickmayer seems the 'right size'. How'd that work out?

Andy.
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:48 AM
Im not sure about my country but amongst my friends she would definitly be considered plus sized.

Mistress of Evil
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:04 AM
As a tennis player she is overweight but as a ordinary girl maybe not.

nfl46
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:07 AM
You would also say that about Davenport, Seles, Hantuchova, Serena, and Kournikova probably. Because they're either "too big" for a tennis player, "too curvy", "too skinny" or "too model-ly". :shrug:

There really isn't ONE typical tennis player body - there's just as many as there are players really. And until Bartoli can't finish a 3-set match because she's so out of shape, there really shouldn't be people ragging on her weight/size.

Hmm, Davenport in her prime - yes, I would say that; Serena is very fit, so seeing her in person, I would assume she was some type of athletic; Seles in prime - yes, I would say that; Hantuchova & Kournikova - do people actually classify them as professional tennis players? :confused::confused:

fantic
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:44 AM
I think she would be considered big/chunky in Korea, so the people who are saying she would be considered normal in "every" country are wrong.

I saw her in plain clothes at Carson (LA Women Championship, USO series) last year. A bit chunky, but certainly not big,

rather petite! And her gams are pretty enough! :bounce:

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:56 AM
No way. Marion may not be Hantuchovaskinny, but she isn't remotely fat. She's a healthy young woman, period. And quite pretty. Tennis players come in all shapes and sizes. If you saw her in person, you'd probably be shocked at how "normal looking" she is.

This. I saw her in Stanford, and she looked "normal" the problem is she wears clothes that "show off" her "problem areas".

But she's fine.


I mean not FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE, but you know what I mean.

donniedarkofan
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:02 AM
In America she would be considered normal size. I think she's a size 10.

That's beacuse 1/2 of American citizens are fat and living in an unhealthy way, eating all those fast foods/trash food and other stuff, not doing sports etc. No disrespect but that's how it is. However, i wouldn't say that Bartoli is fat, she's not thin or healthy looking, she's slightly overweight and that's not a good thing, especially considering that she's a tennis player.

Stamp Paid
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:27 AM
They're all normal size to me. :shrug:Serena is not normal sized. :lol: Shes definitely not fat, but seeing her in person she is an Amazon. An incredibly powerfully built woman. I have never seen anybody like her in my life :drool:

Bezz
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:48 AM
Alot of the women players seem to suffer with weight issues. No-on wants a tour full of hantuchova's, but lindsay, serena and monica have all admitted to carrying "extra" weight in the past. When monica first joined the tour she was a good weight, lindsay lost alot of weight and serena has also shed a few pounds in the past. Its about being toned and in good shape, not how skinny they are. Imo i think bartoli could easily get in better shape without looking thin.

Zweli
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:07 AM
Bartoli is not fat,I have seen her in real not on tv, she is perfect for me as I dislike skinny or superslim athletes.

Leucoptera
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:10 AM
When she is playing well, its amazing what she does given her mechanics. No tennis coach would ever teach this.


Right. Never received official coaching, everything from Dad the doctor.

lilimi
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:18 AM
In America she would be considered normal size. I think she's a size 10.

not a spanish 10 then (:sobbing:just personal experience in spanish shops...i'm 8-10 in france and in spain i'm more 10-12...it doesn't prevent me to buy, though :sobbing:)
I don't think she's fat. Just her body shape looks strange to me.:shrug:

Alizé Molik
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:34 AM
if you compare her from 2007 to now, she is a lot skinnier, if you compared her from 2002-now she would probably look bigger. Don't forget that everything she does (including diet) is influenced by her father. It was he who put her on the plan to increase her weight and therefore increase her power.

it's not that she just sits at home and eats junk food..she is a professional athlete as any other and it annoys me when people imply that because she's not super skinny, she doesn't take tennis seriously or something. 95% of the tour "wouldn't look like tennis players" if you saw them on the street! It's only the top 10 girls who are super tall/athletic in that respect.

WhoAmI?
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:43 AM
:shrug: How do people here know what Marion's eating habits are?

Here she wouldn't be a plus size, but since she seems to have a non-standard type of body, it would be a challenge to find clothes.

Mrs. Dimitrova
Mar 31st, 2010, 09:53 AM
No, she's considered as fat in my continent, Asia. :lol:

BartoliBabes
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:14 AM
her body is attractive to me, and here she wouldn't be considered plus size at all.

rockstar
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:28 AM
No, she's considered as fat in my continent, Asia. :lol:

monstrous in fact, considering how petite most asian women are.

Ferg
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:30 AM
That is 100% BS and you know it. Bartoli is overweight and it is because of her eating habits and it would benifit her to lose about 15 pounds of fat.

I have no interest in getting into an argument with a psycho like you. Get back to the hole you crawled from.

:shrug: How do people here know what Marion's eating habits are?

Because GoDokic knows everything apparently.

tiffanykatya.
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:04 PM
In Hong Kong, she's definitely plus size, considering that 110 lbs is called fat:unsure:

Inktrailer
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:24 PM
It's nice a relatively sensible thread about Marion for once. The fact is she isn't a supers skinny waif naturally but she isn't fat. I saw her at Eastbourne last summer and how anybody can say she's overweight and out of shape is beyond me - it's a ridiculous statement to make. I saw her off-court too in a tracksuit and if you saw her on the street she'd look like a healthy, fit young woman. As for the 'tennis' player look, not sure what that is. If you saw players like Dulko in your local supermarket you wouldn't think she was a tennis player, she's tiny! Figure of a girl but she's obviously toned to match her natural figure and has beaten some big names this last year.

People need to stop being so judgemental, especially if they spend most of their lives sat behind a keyboard and ESPECIALLY if they're also half-blind to boot.

jjokeress
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:39 PM
In Hong Kong, she's definitely plus size, considering that 110 lbs is called fat:unsure:
For a Caucasian girl she is normal size. You need to consider a bit more than just the weight - height, built...
Also, her outfits are not flattering at all, and it's not so easy to look good in something that short while running around and sweating, even without the camera's weight-adding effect.

Dazza01
Mar 31st, 2010, 12:54 PM
It is not a case of a set weight for a height, but what looks good on you. People who are my height look like me, but are actually 10 Kg's lighter than me. There are many causes for weight discrepancies; an example being whether you are big boned or not.

Marion looks like she has actually lost weight in recent times. If this dissertation was waged 2-3 years ago (and I am pretty sure it would have been, considering the perennial 'cake' jokes on her) I would have leaned on the side that she was a little bit unfit.

But not now; she looks (and plays) like she is fit. Just as long as she does not die from exhaustion brought about by a 3 setter (do not do that to us Marion :weirdo: ) her weight should not be as questioned as it is.

vixter
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:20 PM
That is 100% BS and you know it. Bartoli is overweight and it is because of her eating habits and it would benifit her to lose about 15 pounds of fat.

Wow you know so much! You should tell her this immediatly so she can correct her faulty eating habits.

tennnisfannn
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:39 PM
No, she's considered as fat in my continent, Asia. :lol:
Pray tell, why isn't the tour dominated by skinny asians:fiery: Consider this example I use every time weight related issues com up, non of our current slam holders are considered skinny. the tennis court is not a run way and skinny does not win slams or titles but fitness/stamina/talent etc does.
How does anyone sitting behind a computer decide the fitness of an athlete? You cannot kee claiming every time a bartoli gets to a ball it is anticiption, more often than not it is speed. You cannot call her a fighter just becuase she does not fade away, it is because she is a fighter and a fit one. You can ditto these same remarks for Alysa and her co-accused.

laurie
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:11 PM
I tend to agree with most people here. Having seen Marion play more than once, Television seems to make Marion, and Svetlana I might add, look bigger than they actually are.

Television is horrible like that.

P3
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:36 PM
I was going to rag on her weight, then I realized I need to lose about 20lbs of my own :o
LOL. Thanks, me too.

Slamniacki
Mar 31st, 2010, 02:59 PM
yes in our country she is XXXL

HassanAli
Mar 31st, 2010, 03:40 PM
I saw her at Eastbourne last summer and how anybody can say she's overweight and out of shape is beyond me - it's a ridiculous statement to make. I saw her off-court too in a tracksuit and if you saw her on the street she'd look like a healthy, fit young woman. As for the 'tennis' player look, not sure what that is. If you saw players like Dulko in your local supermarket you wouldn't think she was a tennis player, she's tiny! Figure of a girl but she's obviously toned to match her natural figure and has beaten some big names this last year.

People need to stop being so judgemental, especially if they spend most of their lives sat behind a keyboard and ESPECIALLY if they're also half-blind to boot.
While not morbidly obese, Bartoli is seriously chunky and could lose plenty of kilos with a proper diet - she has been much fitter in the past. It has nothing to do with thick bones or similar hokum. But how a weight loss will impact her tennis is anyone's guess. There will be gains in mobility and stamina, but probably some loss of power. If she wants to take her tennis further, she owes it to herself to give it a shot.

But maybe she doesn't have the discipline to shed the excess weight.

Dominic
Mar 31st, 2010, 04:24 PM
I have no interest in getting into an argument with a psycho like you. Get back to the hole you crawled from.

Because GoDokic knows everything apparently.

Oh then dont address me you idiot. We don't know her eating habits, (except the fact that she loves cake :) )but we have eyes. Your weight is influenced mainly by what you eat. A child knows that.

Dominic
Mar 31st, 2010, 04:26 PM
Wow you know so much! You should tell her this immediatly so she can correct her faulty eating habits.

I don't think she would listen, she's said in the past that she wants to stay big.

matty
Mar 31st, 2010, 04:49 PM
No way. Marion may not be Hantuchovaskinny, but she isn't remotely fat. She's a healthy young woman, period. And quite pretty. Tennis players come in all shapes and sizes. If you saw her in person, you'd probably be shocked at how "normal looking" she is.

I agree--I've noticed that TV stretches out all the players. Wickmayer did not look 6' tall--she looked like she was maybe 5'9 or so.

Marion happens to be one of those women that carries her weight in her top section. She could probably stand to lose 5-8 pounds, but with her body type it would come off in her legs and not so much in her stomach.

I'm sure that in person, she doesn't look all that big.

And say what we will about Bartoli and Kleybanova....these girls are already in the upper echalon of their sport--there is no guarnatee that losing bulk would improve their games.

matty
Mar 31st, 2010, 04:55 PM
Oh then dont address me you idiot. We don't know her eating habits, (except the fact that she loves cake :) )but we have eyes. Your weight is influenced mainly by what you eat. A child knows that.

Weight is also hugely influenced by genetics. Ever see a person with skinny legs and a large gut or a person with a skinny stomach but big hips and backside? Then there are the lucky few who gain and lose proportionately (hourglass). Others are just muscular with narrow hips (Henin, Demi Moore, Madonna). She's probably not nearly as large as TV makes her appear--that's what people on this forum say that have seen her in person, anyway.

youizahoe
Mar 31st, 2010, 04:56 PM
She would be considered an XL in Belgium, but it ranges from XXXS to XXXXL over here :lol:

Dominic
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:05 PM
Weight is also hugely influenced by genetics. Ever see a person with skinny legs and a large gut or a person with a skinny stomach but big hips and backside? Then there are the lucky few who gain and lose proportionately (hourglass). Others are just muscular with narrow hips (Henin, Demi Moore, Madonna). She's probably not nearly as large as TV makes her appear--that's what people on this forum say that have seen her in person, anyway.

Yah proportions are more genetic, but actual weight, not so much.

Ferg
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:13 PM
Shes 1 KG heavier then Henin. :weirdo:

Dominic
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:15 PM
Shes 1 KG heavier then Henin. :weirdo:

:lol: ok

youizahoe
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:21 PM
Shes 1 KG heavier then Henin. :weirdo:

Well henin is muscled, bartoli is not. size does not have to do with weight.

I weigh 91kg. 32 inch waist and small tshirt size. :lol:

Inktrailer
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:36 PM
Yah proportions are more genetic, but actual weight, not so much.

Weight isn't an issue here though. If you've actually seen her, you'll know yourself that she isn't a big girl, nor is she overweight or unfit. Whatever problem you have with her is down to her natural body shape i.e. genetics.

youizahoe
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:39 PM
Weight isn't an issue here though. If you've actually seen her, you'll know yourself that she isn't a big girl, nor is she overweight or unfit. Whatever problem you have with her is down to her natural body shape i.e. genetics.

Marion described herself even as a big girl, meaning that she loves to eat and won't drop it.

Inktrailer
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:44 PM
Marion described herself even as a big girl, meaning that she loves to eat and won't drop it.

No, you added the other crap. Meaning compared to some of the dolls on tour.

Ferg
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:52 PM
Well henin is muscled, bartoli is not. size does not have to do with weight.

I weigh 91kg. 32 inch waist and small tshirt size. :lol:

I wasnt even talking about that in reference to her size, if you botherd to look at the post above me.

Ferg
Mar 31st, 2010, 05:55 PM
Ugh, fuck this, Ive gone through enough of these arguments. God knows Ive been through enough of them, I hear the same shit over and over again. This is the last Im saying on the matter, I wont reply past this.

All I know is, haters, call Marion fat all you want, shes the one earning millions as a pro athlete while you are all here sitting in front of a computer screen mocking her shape. I hope that puts things into perspective. :wavey: Shes fitter, richer, and more succesful then you are, and thats the plain and simple fact of the matter.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:45 PM
That's beacuse 1/2 of American citizens are fat and living in an unhealthy way, eating all those fast foods/trash food and other stuff, not doing sports etc. No disrespect but that's how it is. However, i wouldn't say that Bartoli is fat, she's not thin or healthy looking, she's slightly overweight and that's not a good thing, especially considering that she's a tennis player.

No problem. You didn't offend me. :) I just asked because on the scoring thread for her match against Yanina, there were a lot of jokes about Marion's weight but I don't think she's that heavy. For a tennis player she's chunky compared to others but I think Kuzzy is actually bigger than Marion. And I don't consider Svetlana plus size either. They're just big boned girls. :)

Mrs. Berasetegui
Mar 31st, 2010, 10:49 PM
Ugh, fuck this, Ive gone through enough of these arguments. God knows Ive been through enough of them, I hear the same shit over and over again. This is the last Im saying on the matter, I wont reply past this.

All I know is, haters, call Marion fat all you want, shes the one earning millions as a pro athlete while you are all here sitting in front of a computer screen mocking her shape. I hope that puts things into perspective. :wavey: Shes fitter, richer, and more succesful then you are, and thats the plain and simple fact of the matter.

:worship: And that's where Marion has the last laugh! :wavey:

Mary Cherry.
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:03 PM
In a word, no.

Farrow
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:11 PM
No, but then the average size in the UK is (apparently) a 16, which is US 14 (however most people do consider that slightly overweight).

IMO, Bartoli just has a weird body shape, and one you wouldn't naturally associate with a professional athlete. Whatever, it works pretty well for her.

madlove
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:13 PM
for an athlete, kinda.

ChriS.
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:29 PM
Weight isn't an issue here though. If you've actually seen her, you'll know yourself that she isn't a big girl, nor is she overweight or unfit. Whatever problem you have with her is down to her natural body shape i.e. genetics.Agree. I spoke to her at Eastbourne last year and she seemed pretty normal sized to me. The only thing odd about her is the way she jumps around between points and her serve.

Cp6uja
Mar 31st, 2010, 11:57 PM
According to her official weight in near past (58kg), Marion Bartoli is BIG liar.

But since she corrected her numbers to 63kg which not insult my intelligence that badly, I don't have any problem with her size.

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:52 AM
Ugh, fuck this, Ive gone through enough of these arguments. God knows Ive been through enough of them, I hear the same shit over and over again. This is the last Im saying on the matter, I wont reply past this.

All I know is, haters, call Marion fat all you want, shes the one earning millions as a pro athlete while you are all here sitting in front of a computer screen mocking her shape. I hope that puts things into perspective. :wavey: Shes fitter, richer, and more succesful then you are, and thats the plain and simple fact of the matter.

Ahem she's definately not fitter than everyone posting here, I certainly hope not, that would be a total shame.

BOEING 717
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:00 AM
Is she a skinny tiny girl NO. That said her legs are far from fat and I just think she has a solid frame but I would bet not a ton of body fat. I would love my daughters to be her size (great for tennis and golf) Plus I find Bartoli to be quite pretty.

I will not through rocks as I am 25 lbs overweight but I am willing to be in most western nations she would not be thought of as big.

Steadyniacki
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:21 AM
Ahem she's definately not fitter than everyone posting here, I certainly hope not, that would be a total shame.

Actually she is.

There are not many posters here who train relentlessly every single day.
It takes incredible fitness to sustain a high intensity 3 set match which all girls on tour have to do.

LeonHart
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:32 AM
Actually she is.

There are not many posters here who train relentlessly every single day.
It takes incredible fitness to sustain a high intensity 3 set match which all girls on tour have to do.

Someone post Marion's 3 set record :drool:

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:50 AM
Actually she is.

There are not many posters here who train relentlessly every single day.
It takes incredible fitness to sustain a high intensity 3 set match which all girls on tour have to do.

acceptable cardio doesnt equal fit. Strenght, flexibility, body composition, etc. are all things that are part of physical condition. Marion could probably not do a chin up or more than a few push-ups, ok it doesnt affect her much in tennis, but I just know it would benifit her game to lose some fat.

Inktrailer
Apr 1st, 2010, 09:42 AM
acceptable cardio doesnt equal fit. Strenght, flexibility, body composition, etc. are all things that are part of physical condition. Marion could probably not do a chin up or more than a few push-ups, ok it doesnt affect her much in tennis, but I just know it would benifit her game to lose some fat.

You really are a moronic troll.

She's ranked 15 in the world and today is playing in the semi final of Miami. I imagine she doesn't give a feck what you think would 'benefit her game'.

Ferg
Apr 1st, 2010, 11:45 AM
Someone post Marion's 3 set record :drool:

Last year she won 16 3 set matches and lost 5. Not a bad statistic, or is I suppose you think she should have won those matches against Elena and Kim in 3 sets too?

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:25 PM
You really are a moronic troll.

She's ranked 15 in the world and today is playing in the semi final of Miami. I imagine she doesn't give a feck what you think would 'benefit her game'.

Yah so what's your point? you know, besides showing that you're an idiot who can't read. I've already said she probably doesnt care about what ppl think. but it doesnt mean it's not true.

Kipling
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:34 PM
I just know it would benifit her game to lose some fat.

Actually, do you?

Athletes are very peculiar things. Slight changes in weight, height, muscle mass can have significant effects on performance. What about her balance, and how she has made adjustments to that for years? What about her strength--how would that be affected if she lost 5-10 pounds?

Would she be a better player than she is now? Maybe, maybe not. I don't think you can conclude anything for certain. Look at Jankovic as an example. She did what in theory should have benefitted her game, but it backfired royally.

Marion is in no worse shape than Davenport, Seles or Capriati when they were at or near the top of the women's game. It turned out pretty well for them.

Inktrailer
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:38 PM
Yah so what's your point? you know, besides showing that you're an idiot who can't read. I've already said she probably doesnt care about what ppl think. but it doesnt mean it's not true.

I can read, but you're talking pish.

My points are: a) you're a moron b) you're a troll.

If you really have lots of good advice to give to a tennis player, focus your attention on someone who needs it - like the gal in your username.

Inktrailer
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:39 PM
Actually, do you?

Athletes are very peculiar things. Slight changes in weight, height, muscle mass can have significant effects on performance. What about her balance, and how she has made adjustments to that for years? What about her strength--how would that be affected if she lost 5-10 pounds?

Would she be a better player than she is now? Maybe, maybe not. I don't think you can conclude anything for certain. Look at Jankovic as an example. She did what in theory should have benefitted her game, but it backfired royally.

Marion is in no worse shape than Davenport, Seles or Capriati when they were at or near the top of the women's game. It turned out pretty well for them.

Excellent post, thank you.

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:45 PM
I can read, but you're talking pish.

My points are: a) you're a moron b) you're a troll.

If you really have lots of good advice to give to a tennis player, focus your attention on someone who needs it - like the gal in your username.

Ok I get that youre a delusional bitter Marion fan but you need to calm down you twat. This is a forum and I'm saying my opinion and answering the question that was asked. If you cant handle what ppl think, then you have no business posting on a forum sweetheart.

Mina Vagante
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:46 PM
I think she would be average.

Sure, she's a little bigger than most other players but does that matter ? She wins matches,

Would she have as much power behind her shots if she was skinny? Probably not.

I actually think being her size has helped her game, and it works.

SerenaSlam
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:48 PM
personally i enjoy her physique. i love a change. as in growing up typical tennis players were little white girls without a drop of ethnicity in them or an ounce of body or shape. not even a damn coke bottle. just a damn ruler. straight up blah. so to see players like her. iroda the williams sisters etc. it is wonderful and enjoyable all in one

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:50 PM
Actually, do you?

Athletes are very peculiar things. Slight changes in weight, height, muscle mass can have significant effects on performance. What about her balance, and how she has made adjustments to that for years? What about her strength--how would that be affected if she lost 5-10 pounds?

Would she be a better player than she is now? Maybe, maybe not. I don't think you can conclude anything for certain. Look at Jankovic as an example. She did what in theory should have benefitted her game, but it backfired royally.

Marion is in no worse shape than Davenport, Seles or Capriati when they were at or near the top of the women's game. It turned out pretty well for them.

Jankovic gained muscle, which has a good chance to hamper flexibility and agility. Especially since she did it pretty quickly. On the other hand, If you do it right, it is possible to lose fat while keeping all your muscle. So in theory, it wouldnt affect Marion's strenght and power much, she'd be lighter on her feet, so more agility and speed, and probably more flexibility.

Mina Vagante
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:51 PM
personally i enjoy her physique. i love a change. as in growing up typical tennis players were little white girls without a drop of ethnicity in them or an ounce of body or shape. not even a damn coke bottle. just a damn ruler. straight up blah. so to see players like her. iroda the williams sisters etc. it is wonderful and enjoyable all in one

White girls have an ethnicity :rolleyes:

Why bring race into it ?

Inktrailer
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:53 PM
Ok I get that youre a delusional bitter Marion fan but you need to calm down you twat. This is a forum and I'm saying my opinion and answering the question that was asked. If you cant handle what ppl think, then you have no business posting on a forum sweetheart.

I'm not bitter and I am calm:lol: I'm just sick of people who come on here and say 'oh, Marion's fat, she needs to stop eating so much' when they've no idea what they're talking about, and then insisting that they're right. If you can't handle being told you're wrong, you've no business posting on a forum either my friend.

Super Dave
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:54 PM
She's just fine.

ChampLindsay
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:55 PM
In her city - caketown - where she is the mayor, she has to be considered plus size.

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:55 PM
I'm not bitter and I am calm:lol: I'm just sick of people who come on here and say 'oh, Marion's fat, she needs to stop eating so much' when they've no idea what they're talking about, and then insisting that they're right. If you can't handle being told you're wrong, you've no business posting on a forum either my friend.

Oh ok so what am I wrong about exactly?? do tell.

Inktrailer
Apr 1st, 2010, 04:59 PM
Oh ok so what am I wrong about exactly?? do tell.

You came on this thread insiting that Marion's "overweight because of her eating habits" and that she "isn't fitter than people who post on here". Both statements are wrong and also silly.

Navratil
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:01 PM
Definitly.

But in regular street wear people wouldn't notize her size probably that much. But in her tennis dress it looks a little bit awkward.

SerenaSlam
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:01 PM
White girls have an ethnicity :rolleyes:

Why bring race into it ?

it was a general statement and fyi i wasn't bringing race into the way you were taking it. its a given to the point i was making about the sport through the years. you name an african american that was talked about on a regular basis along the lines of Margaret Courts time etc and maybe Ill retract my comment.

white girls do have an ethnicity which is white. but the majority of any other combined race is typically irish etc. which is deemed in general terms as another form of "Caucasian"

marion on the other hand (if u did your research) is s of Corsican, Catalan and French descent. the ethnicity in her runs pretty thick. and u can see it.

dont take a statement and view it how you deem it to be and make it an issue while you role your eyes and then ask me why i had to bring race into it like im drawing the race card. if i were to do that i would have plainly said a white bitch always complaining about a ethnic woman and her curves as if they can't have them when its the actual standard today while they are walking around looking like a damn toothpic complaining about a woman of color because you see the coke bottle aka curves she posses...def didn't do or say any of that so i didnt really bring "race into it" the way your making it seem i have. :rolleyes:

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:03 PM
You came on this thread insiting that Marion's "overweight because of her eating habits" and that she "isn't fitter than people who post on here". Both statements are wrong and also silly.

Oh so you tell me, why do you think she's this size then? and I actually said that she's not fitter than EVERYONE who posts here. there are more than a thousand posters here, and some of them play tennis at a pretty highlevel and are very fit. Marion is probably one of the least fit players on the women's tour, and it's not like the standard of fitness has been super high in the last years.

Mina Vagante
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:07 PM
it was a general statement and fyi i wasn't bringing race into the way you were taking it. its a given to the point i was making about the sport through the years. you name an african american that was talked about on a regular basis along the lines of Margaret Courts time etc and maybe Ill retract my comment.

white girls do have an ethnicity which is white. but the majority of any other combined race is typically irish etc. which is deemed in general terms as another form of "Caucasian"

marion on the other hand (if u did your research) is s of Corsican, Catalan and French descent. the ethnicity in her runs pretty thick. and u can see it.

dont take a statement and view it how you deem it to be and make it an issue while you role your eyes and then ask me why i had to bring race into it like im drawing the race card. if i were to do that i would have plainly said a white bitch always complaining about a ethnic woman and her curves as if they can't have them when its the actual standard today while they are walking around looking like a damn toothpic complaining about a woman of color because you see the coke bottle aka curves she posses...def didn't do or say any of that so i didnt really bring "race into it" the way your making it seem i have. :rolleyes:

OK.

I wasn't angry, and I didn't accuse you of playing the race card.

Inktrailer
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:12 PM
Oh so you tell me, why do you think she's this size then? and I actually said that she's not fitter than EVERYONE who posts here. there are more than a thousand posters here, and some of them play tennis at a pretty highlevel and are very fit. Marion is probably one of the least fit players on the women's tour, and it's not like the standard of fitness has been super high in the last years.

What size?! Have you actually seen her in real life? She isn't a big girl, most of the 'cake' thoughts around here stem from when she was bigger a couple of years ago. It really isn't a relevance any more. She also is fit, she spent her entire off-season doing training that would make most people lie down for a week. As Ferg posted, her record in 3 set matches last year was something like a 75% win rate.

I think a couple of years ago your points would be valid, but not now.

Dominic
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:45 PM
What size?! Have you actually seen her in real life? She isn't a big girl, most of the 'cake' thoughts around here stem from when she was bigger a couple of years ago. It really isn't a relevance any more. She also is fit, she spent her entire off-season doing training that would make most people lie down for a week. As Ferg posted, her record in 3 set matches last year was something like a 75% win rate.

I think a couple of years ago your points would be valid, but not now.

She does look a bit better nowadays, but she's still not as fit as most players and not at her optimum shape to play IMO.

Ferg
Apr 1st, 2010, 05:54 PM
In her city - caketown - where she is the mayor, she has to be considered plus size.

Says a Lindsay fan!!! :spit:

Inktrailer
Apr 1st, 2010, 06:00 PM
She does look a bit better nowadays, but she's still not as fit as most players and not at her optimum shape to play IMO.

Well okay, fair enough, we'll leave it at then.

stangtennis
Apr 1st, 2010, 06:09 PM
There's a big difference in clohing sizes in the US vs. Europe and what is considered large and small.
I usually use size XL T-shirts in Europe. But once a guy from the US sent me a T-shirt and asked what size I use. I said XL, so he sent me an XL. But it was an American size XL. In European sizes it was more like an XXXL, I could put a ski jacket under T-shirt and it would probably still be too big.
I guess I will have to order a size medium instead of XL next time I get a T-shirt from the US.

sweetpeas
Apr 1st, 2010, 08:05 PM
No way. Marion may not be Hantuchovaskinny, but she isn't remotely fat. She's a healthy young woman, period. And quite pretty. Tennis players come in all shapes and sizes. If you saw her in person, you'd probably be shocked at how "normal looking" she is.
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I agree! she's pretty.

Ciarán
Aug 16th, 2010, 01:14 AM
No, she would not.

Ferg
Aug 16th, 2010, 01:15 AM
GoDokic proved his TWAT credentials with this early year display :bowdown:

Dominic
Aug 16th, 2010, 01:36 AM
Oh yeah, by saying Marion is not as fit as most players and isnt at her optimum playing shape!? Ok dude. if you cant admit that, then you're the twat.

thegreendestiny
Aug 16th, 2010, 01:51 AM
In America, I'm sure she'd range from slim to very slim. :tape:

Seyz
Aug 16th, 2010, 01:56 AM
Uh compared to us Americans, she's probably considered thin. America is full of obese people. The difference between Asia and the U.S. in terms of weight is astonishing.
Compared to asian countries, she's probably fat.

Mynarco
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:00 AM
She is plus size? :haha: Are you kidding me?
But agree with previous posters pointing that the mindset of asian and european/american about "fat" and "thin" are quite different. Here in Hong Kong, LOADS of girls try their very best to be slim (say, 110 lbs or less) 120-130 would be considered as fat and these girls need to go to the company, pay loads of money to slim up. Ridiculous, huh?

Tennis Ball
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:15 AM
yes.

Srodgers
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:22 AM
In America where I live, I would probably say she is average or normal. She wouldnt be considered slim IMO. Kids these days definately arent that chubby. At least in my school :lol:

matty
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:28 AM
No way. Marion may not be Hantuchovaskinny, but she isn't remotely fat. She's a healthy young woman, period. And quite pretty. Tennis players come in all shapes and sizes. If you saw her in person, you'd probably be shocked at how "normal looking" she is.

I agree. This is just how she is built. Like Pavly, Kleybanova etc.-they carry all their weight in the upper half: arms, stomach, chest, even face.

delicatecutter
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:28 AM
Just because there are lots of people in the US who are obese doesn't change who I consider plus-size. It's not a sliding scale or Bell curve. :rolls:

Anyway, I doubt she is plus-size anyway. She could definitely be fitter, but I think she is working in that direction.

Alizé Molik
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:41 AM
GoDokic proved his TWAT credentials with this early year display :bowdown:

lol the only thing funnier than this bump is that he was all over it. :tape:

SV_Fan
Aug 16th, 2010, 03:26 AM
The girl weighs 120 something........

She just lacks muscle tone, she is not FAT at all, she is just soft because she lacks the toned/tight quality that most girls have.

pav
Aug 16th, 2010, 03:42 AM
Nuh, just good for the hangi.

Steadyniacki
Aug 16th, 2010, 03:59 AM
LOL GoDokic i was wondering why you were named twat, needs no more explination.

sakya23
Aug 16th, 2010, 04:08 AM
She would be normal size.

SymphonyX
Aug 16th, 2010, 04:11 AM
woould Bartoli be higher ranked if she lost 20lbs?? probably not imo, maybe lower ranked.

I think her "meat" gives her shots that extra 'oomph!'.

Lord Choc Ice
Aug 16th, 2010, 04:23 AM
Not Marion, but Kleybanova maybe.

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2009+Australian+Open+Day+7+4rKJifoIS1yl.jpg

Dominic
Aug 16th, 2010, 04:26 AM
LOL GoDokic i was wondering why you were named twat, needs no more explination.

Oh it's cause I think Marion could be fitter :haha: .... ok honey. Keep being delusional if that's what you like.

danieln1
Aug 16th, 2010, 05:01 AM
A lot of women, and I mean a lot, would die to have bartoli´s body....

Jajaloo
Aug 16th, 2010, 06:20 AM
In the US she would be classed as anorexic, by comparison.

kiwialicat
Aug 16th, 2010, 08:03 AM
A lot of women, and I mean a lot, would die to have bartoli´s body....

errr..really? Not meaning to be rude or anything but if you were going to die to have someone's body I doubt Bartoli would be on that list.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 16th, 2010, 08:33 AM
Well, for a tennis player she could be a little fitter. Because the excess weight probably lowers her stamina and causes her to get injured as often as she does.
But compared to non-athletes, she's perfectly fine.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 16th, 2010, 08:35 AM
errr..really? Not meaning to be rude or anything but if you were going to die to have someone's body I doubt Bartoli would be on that list.
I think he means it more in the sense "would you like your body or Marion's?"

tim2502
Aug 16th, 2010, 08:38 AM
In Taiwan?
Yes. She is fat.

Navratil
Aug 16th, 2010, 09:08 AM
XXL-Size :-D

Sammo
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:54 AM
In my country she would be considered normal size 30 years ago, now most of the girls are beautiful and fit :)

debby
Aug 16th, 2010, 12:08 PM
Some people here are so pathetic... Marion has a great body, she is not fat at all. When I saw her live, I was shocked because she is fit, far from being fat.

Anyway, she would be 38-40 in France, which means 28/29 size in America. Really normal size then.
And @sammo : what do you mean by that? :unsure: that you had to have less than size 30 to be fit? :help: :help:

claypova
Aug 16th, 2010, 12:09 PM
She'd be considered normal in Australia:lol::help:

KournikovaFan91
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:46 PM
She would be considered normal, most of the other girls are ultra fit and many naturally tall and slender anyway, so Bartoli as an average woman looks big beside them. When you see her in pressers and off court she doesn't look big at all.

Tennisstar86
Aug 16th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Some people here are so pathetic... Marion has a great body, she is not fat at all. When I saw her live, I was shocked because she is fit, far from being fat.

Anyway, she would be 38-40 in France, which means 28/29 size in America. Really normal size then.
And @sammo : what do you mean by that? :unsure: that you had to have less than size 30 to be fit? :help: :help:

I think you've got some numbers wrong....... 28/29 is very large in America..... I don''t 100% understand the sizing chart; however, plus sized closed are stated as 14-32, but generally the 14-18 sized girls are left out of the plus sized section in stores...... so 18+ from my esperience in buying for friends.....

anyways. Bartoli is probably a 8-10 as others have said. Shes slimed down a lot in the last year from what I can tell. and yes thats the average housewife. In the model world she'd be too big to be a normal model and borderline too small to be a plus sized model

Elisse
Aug 16th, 2010, 03:03 PM
What's the right size for a tennis player when considering Davenport, Serena, Monica, and others aren't skinny young ladies?

:worship:

I think Marion looks a healthy weight and actually looks smaller in person.

Don't know why so much fuss is made about Marion's weight anyway..she's definately not over weight. And besides...I think it's worse to see a player who is ultra skinny/under weight than someone who is 'normal' sized and successfully winning. To me it's far more worrying to see (for example) Dulko on the court, who sometimes looks terribly thin...to me that looks a far more unhealthy weight for a player.

debby
Aug 16th, 2010, 03:52 PM
I think you've got some numbers wrong....... 28/29 is very large in America..... I don''t 100% understand the sizing chart; however, plus sized closed are stated as 14-32, but generally the 14-18 sized girls are left out of the plus sized section in stores...... so 18+ from my esperience in buying for friends.....

anyways. Bartoli is probably a 8-10 as others have said. Shes slimed down a lot in the last year from what I can tell. and yes thats the average housewife. In the model world she'd be too big to be a normal model and borderline too small to be a plus sized model

Yeah, I 've done some research and some people said 38 in France = 28 .... so yeah I guess they were wrong because in France, size 40 would be like that (at her waist not at her hips) :

http://www.dontmiss.fr/img200810/monicabellucci1.jpg

Tennisstar86
Aug 16th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Yeah, I 've done some research and some people said 38 in France = 28 .... so yeah I guess they were wrong because in France, size 40 would be like that (at her waist not at her hips) :

http://www.dontmiss.fr/img200810/monicabellucci1.jpg

Ah, you were doing the size of her waist.... Female clothing isn't measured by the waist at least not over here(men's is, I don't understand the female system at ALL) but yes if her waist was a 28 that'd be normal/ small

MAGIKARPETTA
Aug 16th, 2010, 04:09 PM
She isn't normal size for sport body. For the rest...:shrug:

debby
Aug 16th, 2010, 04:11 PM
She isn't normal size for sport body. For the rest...:shrug:

Magicarpe is a great Pokemon :( He is useless at the beginning but when he becomes Leviathan, he is scary good :angel: Do you hope Pennetta to be a goat killer late in her career ? :lol:

Caipirinha Guy
Aug 16th, 2010, 07:17 PM
Maybe she wouldn't be considered "plus size" but she wouldn't be considered a tennis player either.

Delfii
Aug 16th, 2010, 07:37 PM
Normal for a woman, but maybe a little fatty for a tennis player I guess :shrug:

FoxyliciousKhat
Aug 16th, 2010, 07:48 PM
Actually she is.

There are not many posters here who train relentlessly every single day.
It takes incredible fitness to sustain a high intensity 3 set match which all girls on tour have to do.

She definitely is fitting that I am and I'm DANI body type give or take a few pounds. Being skinny does not make one fit, so all those harping about how skinny they are compared to Marion should go spend 5 minutes doing her daily exercise and see how long they will last.

IMHO Marion is not overweight. Could she lose a couple of pounds? Maybe but since I don't know her personally that's hard to really say. People need to get over their Marion obsession. Honestly it's OLD now

Foxy

spartanfan
Aug 16th, 2010, 08:09 PM
I don't really follow Bartoli or watch a lot of her matches, but I watched her play against Sharapova Friday and I thought it looked like she had lost some weight and tightened up her mid section and it was noticable. Here in the US it's commonly said that the camera adds 10 pounds on how a person really looks in real life. That being said, she looks pretty average for a tennis player. She's not the thinnest or the heaviest.

Drake1980
Aug 16th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Don't think so. :shrug:

BluSthil
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:20 PM
Unfortunately, in America she would be "normal". I thought she looked pretty good in Cincinnati. If she lost 15, 20 pounds, she would be extremely effective. Her 1st serve has decent speed, and she moves around the court surprisingly well.

edificio
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:23 PM
Maybe she wouldn't be considered "plus size" but she wouldn't be considered a tennis player either.

If you play tennis professionally, you are a tennis player. Doesn't matter your "size."

Qalahari
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Definitely NOT!

Qalahari
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:45 PM
If you play tennis professionally, you are a tennis player. Doesn't matter your "size."
This :yeah: I'd really like to goodrep you but I can't :hug:

miffedmax
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:52 PM
I think her weight is greatly exaggerated around here to get a rise out of her fans and for comedic effect. She's certainly not huge. A number of players like Serena, Nastya Pavy, and others are just built differently from the likes of Hantuchova or Dementieva. And van der Saar is build quite differently from Messi, and DeMarcus Ware is built differently from Wes Welker. All pretty good at what they do.

Qalahari
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:55 PM
I wonder who was the one who started the CAKE-hystery :lol:

edificio
Aug 16th, 2010, 10:59 PM
This :yeah: I'd really like to goodrep you but I can't :hug:

Hee hee. Thanks!

Stevecw
Aug 16th, 2010, 11:35 PM
In Ireland she would be average. Lots of fatties here sadly. Marion def not a plus size here.

SELVEN
Aug 17th, 2010, 05:34 AM
I melt her in china open last year and took a photo with her.I think she is normal size even if to a tennis player.btw,her face looks so small in person.

WTAtennisfan15
Aug 17th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Not in Finland, or maybe?

Kipling
Aug 17th, 2010, 06:48 PM
I melt her in china open last year and took a photo with her.I think she is normal size even if to a tennis player.btw,her face looks so small in person.

Yes. I literally "rubbed shoulders" with her in Miami, and she seems very petite in person. I also don't think she's really 5'7.5" tall, either. Not unless I grew a couple inches.

Marion is not fat. There are very few women on the tour I would even think about using that term to describe, and that's only because they are wearing less than flattering outfits that are just too tight. Some are fitter than others, but they are all athletes who have to run around for 2-2.5 hours several times a week, counting matches and practices, and so I find it ridiculous that anyone would consider them "fat". Women are supposed to be curvy. Only in a place like this would that be considered a liability....

PandoraPandora
Aug 17th, 2010, 07:41 PM
I saw her up close in Eastbourne this year and she is not fat. The TV makes people look bigger than they are - which is why so many actresses diet and look terrible in person. Marion looked perfectly in proportion and was actually pretty.

I also saw Svetlana in person and I was surprised at how slim and lithe she looked. She was verry attractive in person - the TV does not do her justice. And she was very friendly and outgoing.

Steffica Greles
Aug 17th, 2010, 10:56 PM
On a street, she's average sized. In an athletic context, she's unacceptably fat.

And that is where the discussion ends.

Mrs. Berasetegui
Aug 18th, 2010, 10:02 AM
On a street, she's average sized. In an athletic context, she's unacceptably fat.

And that is where the discussion ends.

In tennis or do you mean in all of sports Marion is considered "unacceptably fat"?