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Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Thought I'd try and open a new thread:)

So over her service woes and shaky play! Cheers to better luck on the Euro clay circuit!:drink:

"Sick of crying, tired of trying, yeah, I'm smiling, but deep inside, I'm dying"


^^I want to erase this quote by the end of they clay season!:sobbing:

Things aren't goint to change over night, but I'm hoping she's at least on the right path to "redemption" and finding her former self and game.:)

http://350asia.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/change-poster-final_short2.jpg
Inspired by fortydeuce who likes to call Ana "Baby E(lephant)":lol:


Keep positive, keep believing and remember:

http://timetobudget.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/baby-up-steps.jpg

It will take Baby Steps for Ana to eventually be back on top!;)

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Well, fuck! Apart from Rome, the Clay season was a complete and utter disaster!:sobbing:

spiritedenergy
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Roland Garros n.2 here we come!:p

spiritedenergy
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:30 PM
guys Anapolis has 68 viewers:scared: Despite her results Ana's fanbase keeps increasing:eek:

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:38 PM
guys Anapolis has 68 viewers:scared: Despite her results Ana's fanbase keeps increasing:eek:

That's the haters who are having themselves a blast reading our posts of desperation and sadness!:rolleyes:

HATERS REJOICE!:kiss:

spiritedenergy
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:41 PM
the first post:happy:

virginmary you are a blast:worship:

jonnyroyale_13
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:44 PM
Thought I'd try and open a new thread:)

So over her service woes and shaky play! Cheers to better luck on the Euro clay circuit!:drink:

cheers!:drink: Great thread:worship:

Roland Garros n.2 here we come!:p

adjeyeah:hearts:

Cp6uja
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:29 PM
At her best, Ana is also known like :boxing: Cassius Clay of womans tennis!

Please Ana: Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee once again :D

Officinale
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:51 PM
Cute first post. I just hope for the best. She deserves it :sobbing:
At least her RG title is still safe. I am a good conservator despite everything :D

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:56 PM
At her best, Ana is also known like :boxing: Cassius Clay of womans tennis!

Please Ana: Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee once again :D

:spit::worship:

Let's hope she's not turning out to be Clay Aiken!:scared:

Dexter
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:18 PM
Oh hell, yes GOAT is going to get born again from ashes like a Phoenix sur la terre battue. Like sure she is...

Loungy
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:23 PM
... Rome, Madrid and RG - is that all her clay season? That could be just 3 matches.

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:38 PM
^^I think she entered Stuttgart as well.:) 4 matches!:hearts:

Loungy
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:58 PM
^^I think she entered Stuttgart as well.:)
:bounce: But at the same time, it's packed (http://www.porsche-tennis.de/prod/pag/tennis.nsf/web/english-news_list). I was hoping for something more on the lines of Marbella, Fes or even Estoril.

If she's healthy, why waste time playing tournaments where the likelihood she'll advance is pretty small? IDGI. :sad:

jelenacg
Mar 28th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Yeah she plays Stuttgart as well
Great first post :worship: Baby Elephant :hearts:

She will also play FC on clay so that`s 2 more matches
@Loungy I`m with you but this the first time she added something since 08 so don`t complain bc she can always withdraw :rolleyes:

bruce goose
Mar 28th, 2010, 12:35 AM
Yeah she plays Stuttgart as well
Great first post :worship: Baby Elephant :hearts:

She will also play FC on clay so that`s 2 more matches
@Loungy I`m with you but this the first time she added something since 08 so don`t complain bc she can always withdraw :rolleyes:I'll be happy if Ana doesn't go to any stinkin' golf tournaments between now and RG.If she DOESN'T,then that might be a promising sign that she's dumping some of her emotional baggage.......and some of her HUMAN 'extra,unneeded' baggage as well

Actually,if Ana wants to hang out with Lorena Ochoa:hearts:,that's fine;maybe Lorena could persuade Ana to spend more time in Mexico:p

Curtos07
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:01 AM
Great post Virgin Mary. :lol:

Not much points to defend between now and RG so hopefully she can make some move. She needs a good tournament soon though.

The Daviator
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:52 AM
Ana, please play Fes! :lol:

InsideOut.
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:55 AM
Ajde :hearts:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3229/oracene1.gif

HowardH
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:24 AM
Hoping for something positive in the clay season for Ana.

The 2nd Law
Mar 28th, 2010, 09:57 AM
Ana will always be my queen of clay!

Dexter
Mar 28th, 2010, 10:02 AM
Ana, please play Fes! :lol:Oh yes, play Fes!

Curtos07
Mar 29th, 2010, 01:54 AM
Fes, Marbella, Barcelona, one of those tournaments would be nice. I mean, what else does she has that is more important to do the next month? Practice? She definitely needs to play in another tournament before Fed Cup.

Illusionist
Mar 29th, 2010, 01:41 PM
I really hope she'll do well on clay. Even last year she did well at FC and RG. I freekin hope she'll make at least one QF on clay and hopefully get non-seeded player in RND128 at Roland Garros. Come on Anchy, we still believe :kiss:

-NAJ-
Mar 29th, 2010, 02:22 PM
I like clay season. last week clay courts in my block are opened:worship:

:secret:I'm worried for Ana's season on clay:unsure:

it would be good for her to play in Marbella next week.

gaviotabr
Mar 29th, 2010, 03:14 PM
Ana pulled out of Fed Cup. Now I understand her adding Stuttgart..

Fed Cup statement

In mutual agreement with the Serbian Tennis Federation, Ana will not take part in the Serbia versus Slovakia Fed Cup tie next month.

“I spoke with the captain Dejan Vranes, and the President of the Federation Slobodan Zivojinovic, and together we decided that under these circumstances, and after all that has happened lately, it’s not the right time for me to be part of the team,” said Ana.

“Despite my non-presence, I believe that we have a good team, led by Jelena, and this is a great opportunity for one of the young, upcoming players to play on the biggest stage.

“I know that Serbia will put up a performance of great commitment and passion as always.

“I will continue to make all necessary steps to find my form, and the key to that is training with my team and playing tournaments.”

Zivojinovic said: “We all know that Ana has been through some very tough experiences lately and we support her in her efforts to do everything possible to return to the top. Ana has all the time in the world, she is only 22, and she’ll be back soon.”

http://www.anaivanovic.com/news/fed-cup-statement

Curtos07
Mar 29th, 2010, 03:15 PM
Obviously this signals that she isn't as confident in her game as she says she is. But I actually think this is a good thing, assuming this means she will be expanding her schedule with smaller tournaments, especially in April. Fed Cup was never going to do her no good. She can't gain ranking points there, playing under alot of pressure at home, and at the very most would play two matches max. Now she can add a tournament or two (hopefully) where she can gain points, play more matches and build more confidence and continue to fine tune her game. I think this is a very smart move if they do expand the schedule like I said.

gaviotabr
Mar 29th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Though.. this is not really all that surprising.. I'm sure what happened against Russia was a huge trauma for Ana.. it hurt her big time.. and no wonder.. that was utter humiliation. She had awful results in IW and Miami, is still playing like crap and has no serve. Serbia will take on a strong team in Slovakia, and they know Ana might very well lose both matches again with the way she has been playing. And she obviously doesn't need to get totally embarrassed again in front of her home crowd.

Jankovic will get pissed off though, I'm sure. Because we all know she will win both of her matches, but that's it for Serbia. No shot at winning the tie. Hantuchova sucks on clay, but no way she is losing to Jovanovski or Jovanovic. Let alone Cibulkova, who actually plays well on the surface. And such a pity.. if Ana was playing remotely decent tennis, Serbia could very well be on its way to winning the title.. now they will most probably have to fight their way out of World Group II again.

Back to Ana... If she is not playing Fed Cup.. she should enter Marbella or Barcelona or something.. Stuttgart and Rome have hell fields, she might very well only get 2 matches there.. And she will have to get a WC to get into Madrid's main draw. She will not be seeded at any of these tournaments and we have to remember Stuttgart and Madrid have no byes.. so she might as well face anyone in the first round. With her luck, it will most probably be a big time player.

Ana has no idea of how to win matches anymore.. how to close it out.. how to get strong or to focus more on important points.. how to keep going when things get tight.. that simple match management, that's not natural for her anymore because she has barely played in the past year.. she doesn't have those match mechanics with her anymore.. so everything is hard and difficult once she steps on court.. she always looks miserable and nervous.. She simply doesn't really know how to play a real match. It's pretty obvious she needs to get matches in, relearn the process.. so when she goes on court it's not the weight of the world on her shoulders anymore.. so it's actually something normal, that she does for a living.. not something out of this world. And it's highly unlikely that she will get these matches only playing those big time tournaments in Stuttgart, Rome and WC depending Madrid. With no matches, no confidence, no recovery. She can practice all she wants, if she can't translate it to matches it just doesn't matter.

Unfortunately, I feel like she won't add anything else.. she will just get these next couple of weeks to WAG, then another couple of weeks to practice on clay.. then show up to play Stuttgart, lose in the first round.. show up to play Rome, lose in the first round.. get a WC into Madrid and lose in the first round. Or second if she gets lucky enough to get a weak player as a first round opponent. Sometimes I just have to :rolleyes: when she says she is taking all the necessary steps to recovery.. okay, right.. :rolleyes::o

gaviotabr
Mar 29th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Obviously this signals that she isn't as confident in her game as she says she is. But I actually think this is a good thing, assuming this means she will be expanding her schedule with smaller tournaments, especially in April. Fed Cup was never going to do her no good. She can't gain ranking points there, playing under alot of pressure at home, and at the very most would play two matches max. Now she can add a tournament or two (hopefully) where she can gain points, play more matches and build more confidence and continue to fine tune her game. I think this is a very smart move if they do expand the schedule like I said.

I'm okay with skipping Fed Cup.. she had enough traume and humiliation in february.. but it will only be a good move, as you say, if they do expand her schedule. If not, then she is just playing even less matches, wich is not good.. I guess we will have to wait and see.

And obviously, she has no confidence in herself. None.. she goes into matches believing she can lose, which is one of the biggest factors of her losses... when it gets tight, she just doesn't have the belief or the decision to win. And loses..

What she says to the press is the same :bs: she has always said.. I will get her pressers together sometime.. just compare what she says now to what she said a year ago.. It's the very same.

Curtos07
Mar 29th, 2010, 03:47 PM
I'm okay with skipping Fed Cup.. she had enough traume and humiliation in february.. but it will only be a good move, as you say, if they do expand her schedule. If not, then she is just playing even less matches, wich is not good.. I guess we will have to wait and see.

And obviously, she has no confidence in herself. None.. she goes into matches believing she can lose, which is one of the biggest factors of her losses... when it gets tight, she just doesn't have the belief or the decision to win. And loses..

What she says to the press is the same :bs: she has always said.. I will get her pressers together sometime.. just compare what she says now to what she said a year ago.. It's the very same.

I agree that she always says the same delusional stuff in her pressers, although I don't think she actually believes it. Just afraid to admit that she sucks right now. This is as close to an admission from her that she is in a world of trouble, but I guess we'll find out if she really means it when we know for sure what her April schedule looks like. Like you said above, she needs to add Marbella or Barcelona, something like that to her schedule or else this move is just a sign of her running away from her problems. I am still hopeful, that finally her team has woke up and realise that she can't have a schedule of a top 10 player any more, but who really knows with them. I'll believe it when I see it.

gaviotabr
Mar 29th, 2010, 03:57 PM
I agree that she always says the same delusional stuff in her pressers, although I don't think she actually believes it. Just afraid to admit that she sucks right now. This is as close to an admission from her that she is in a world of trouble, but I guess we'll find out if she really means it when we know for sure what her April schedule looks like. Like you said above, she needs to add Marbella or Barcelona, something like that to her schedule or else this move is just a sign of her running away from her problems. I am still hopeful, that finally her team has woke up and realise that she can't have a schedule of a top 10 player any more, but who really knows with them. I'll believe it when I see it.

Bolded part is what she has been doing for the past year.

Isha312
Mar 29th, 2010, 03:59 PM
Obviously this signals that she isn't as confident in her game as she says she is. But I actually think this is a good thing, assuming this means she will be expanding her schedule with smaller tournaments, especially in April. Fed Cup was never going to do her no good. She can't gain ranking points there, playing under alot of pressure at home, and at the very most would play two matches max. Now she can add a tournament or two (hopefully) where she can gain points, play more matches and build more confidence and continue to fine tune her game. I think this is a very smart move if they do expand the schedule like I said.

When you bring up these points it makes sense. The press release makes it seem like she did it for the team, rather than herself, which I didn't understand because they really have no one else left. Now this is a good decision contingent on the fact that she actually adds smaller tournaments to her schedule. If she just uses this time to "practice" then it's a stupid decision and she's just missing out on the opportunity for more match play.

House
Mar 29th, 2010, 04:50 PM
I actually think she's afraid to play smaller tournaments because she might lose in earlier rounds and that would be really bad for her confidence.

gaviotabr
Mar 29th, 2010, 04:54 PM
I actually think she's afraid to play smaller tournaments because she might lose in earlier rounds and that would be really bad for her confidence.

It's not like she is winning matches in bigger tournaments either.. if she doesn't try the small ones, she won't reach the 20 matches mark this season.

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 29th, 2010, 05:17 PM
Exactly. If she doesn't start winning at smaller events she will never beat a Top 20 player again.
She said it herself, the way to the top starts at the bottom and that's where she's at right now. Mentally as much as game-wise.

Anyone know how her clay court schedule looks like? Still only Stuttgart(?), Rome and then Madrid?:unsure:

spiritedenergy
Mar 29th, 2010, 05:46 PM
I'm okay with skipping Fed Cup.. she had enough traume and humiliation in february.. but it will only be a good move, as you say, if they do expand her schedule. If not, then she is just playing even less matches, wich is not good.. I guess we will have to wait and see.

And obviously, she has no confidence in herself. None.. she goes into matches believing she can lose, which is one of the biggest factors of her losses... when it gets tight, she just doesn't have the belief or the decision to win. And loses..

What she says to the press is the same :bs: she has always said.. I will get her pressers together sometime.. just compare what she says now to what she said a year ago.. It's the very same.

I agree, it's a strange decision, it's like saying that she will lose for sure if she plays. She can't go into matches thinking she will lose, it doesn't make any sense... But I hope she'll add some international tournaments to her schedule in April.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Mar 29th, 2010, 05:47 PM
Losing in smaller tournaments won't harm her confidence I guess.
Something you don't have can't be harmed. Maybe that's a positive thing.

She can still get out of this, but she's not yet on the road back.
All these DF's and broken 5 times in 1 set. Even a 3-0 lead brought her nothing.
I've seen only the last 3 points so it doesn't say all. But it didn't look promising.

jelenacg
Mar 29th, 2010, 06:39 PM
I can`t say i`m surprised she won`t play Fed Cup.It`s a good decision,she doesn`t need another trauma and humiliation in front of home crowed :tape:
It`s good that she decided to withdraw now and not later when i would already bought tickets,she saved me money :lol:

I don`t think she will add any tournament despite not playing FC.Pulling out FC has nothing to do with her playing anywhere else she is just saving herself from another humiliation or running away from one :o
Marbella starts in 5 or 6 days so she can`t play there.Barcelona starts 11.o4 and it would be great if she plays there but i know she won`t .And Fes , no way :lol::lol:

So that leaves us Stuttgart ,Rome and Madrid.It sucks that she won`t add anything else :rolleyes: She should take advantage of the fact that most WTA aren`t good clay court players :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
Mar 29th, 2010, 09:31 PM
I can`t say i`m surprised she won`t play Fed Cup.It`s a good decision,she doesn`t need another trauma and humiliation in front of home crowed :tape:
It`s good that she decided to withdraw now and not later when i would already bought tickets,she saved me money :lol:

I don`t think she will add any tournament despite not playing FC.Pulling out FC has nothing to do with her playing anywhere else she is just saving herself from another humiliation or running away from one :o
Marbella starts in 5 or 6 days so she can`t play there.Barcelona starts 11.o4 and it would be great if she plays there but i know she won`t .And Fes , no way :lol::lol:

So that leaves us Stuttgart ,Rome and Madrid.It sucks that she won`t add anything else :rolleyes: She should take advantage of the fact that most WTA aren`t good clay court players :rolleyes:

Yeah Jelena.. I'm not surprised Ana doesn't want to play Fed Cup, considering her form and especially in Belgrade.. I'm sure she went through awful times losing those matches against Russia, and is scared as hell of a repeat in front of her home crowd. But it does show that she has no belief in herself.. and if she plays every match like this, no wonder she loses them.

But yeah.. I was thinking and I guess you might be just right.. Ana most probably just replaced Fed Cup with Stuttgart.. now I understand why she added this tournament.. I was all naive thinking she was finally up to play more matches. Silly me.. :o She is probably going to play even less...

Actually, getting out of Fed Cup gives her one extra week to WAG.. :rolleyes:

bruce goose
Mar 29th, 2010, 10:13 PM
Yeah Jelena.. I'm not surprised Ana doesn't want to play Fed Cup, considering her form and especially in Belgrade.. I'm sure she went through awful times losing those matches against Russia, and is scared as hell of a repeat in front of her home crowd. But it does show that she has no belief in herself.. and if she plays every match like this, no wonder she loses them.

But yeah.. I was thinking and I guess you might be just right.. Ana most probably just replaced Fed Cup with Stuttgart.. now I understand why she added this tournament.. I was all naive thinking she was finally up to play more matches. Silly me.. :o She is probably going to play even less...

Actually, getting out of Fed Cup gives her one extra week to WAG.. :rolleyes:Did she actually say that she was gonna WAG?...it's not like that's gonna help him...he'll probably finish in 2047th place at the Masters...either at or near the bottom.I was sort of hoping that she'd get that Aussie anal tumor removed...but that's a big step for 'alcoholic' Ana to separate from the last of our 'drinking buddies',so maybe she's not ready quite yet

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 29th, 2010, 10:59 PM
Did she actually say that she was gonna WAG?...it's not like that's gonna help him...he'll probably finish in 2047th place at the Masters...either at or near the bottom.I was sort of hoping that she'd get that Aussie anal tumor removed...but that's a big step for 'alcoholic' Ana to separate from the last of our 'drinking buddies',so maybe she's not ready quite yet

:spit:

Cp6uja
Mar 29th, 2010, 11:26 PM
Let's face with truth - forget about all other players positive experience... but playing small events will never works for Ana! She is player which have better results at slams than at tier-I level events, at tier-I better than at tier-II, at tier-II better than at tier-III. Even at same tournaments she has tendency to play worse at smaller courts than at bigger ones! Except Serena Williams no other player with such strange and extreme stats about this. Without seed status Ana will face seeded opponents in early rounds, but on other hand don't forget that she will play 1st round matches against lower rankend players (BYE no more) and even with mediocre display for her standards she will reach enough matches. Another of reasons why players which drop from TOP50 prefer small MM events for comeback is because don't like to play qualies at bigger events (b/c bad ranking) is pointless for Ana, because like one of tours biggest stars she can reach WC's anytime and anywhere.

Problem with her 2009 schedule IMO is not because she not played some extra mickey mouse event, but because after march/09 she played just 6 events overall (out of slams). She even escape both premiere mandatory events (Madrid and Beijing) from that part of season.

Fed Cup.. she had enough traume and humiliation in february.. I agree in general that she is scared about possibility to be humiliated twice in her hometown in just two months, and that is main reason why she decide to :bolt: from this tie. I'm really unhappy with this decision because FED CUP is only chance for Serbs to see theirs biggest stars live in action, and if they lose (now Slovakia is big favorite if Domi+Dani both will play) first next possibility to watch power Serbian FED CUP team i n World Group I will be in 2012 in best case. But what to do :shrug: I just want to believe that there will be with Ana at end same happy end scenario like with Jelena in 2006 when she decide to skip FED CUP in april and to try to regroup from careers biggest crisis.

The Daviator
Mar 30th, 2010, 12:00 AM
Let's face with truth - forget about all other players positive experience... but playing small events will never works for Ana! She is player which have better results at slams than at tier-I level events, at tier-I better than at tier-II, at tier-II better than at tier-III. Even at same tournaments she has tendency to play worse at smaller courts than at bigger ones! Except Serena Williams no other player with such strange and extreme stats about this. Without seed status Ana will face seeded opponents in early rounds, but on other hand don't forget that she will play 1st round matches against lower rankend players (BYE no more) and even with mediocre display for her standards she will reach enough matches. Another of reasons why players which drop from TOP50 prefer small MM events for comeback is because don't like to play qualies at bigger events (b/c bad ranking) is pointless for Ana, because like one of tours biggest stars she can reach WC's anytime and anywhere.

Ana is not the player she was a few seasons ago, you seem to think she's still an elite player who just happens to be ranked #58, she's not. She's now a mediocre player ranked #58, and she she should do what all players in that range do and that's play MM events. She needs to a) learn how to win matches again and b) play in a less pressurised situation.

I'd love her to play something like Barcelona, of course she won't, but don't worry, after inevitable first/second round losses in Stuttgart/Rome/Madrid, I think she'll finally get the message.

bruce goose
Mar 30th, 2010, 02:10 AM
:spit:Yeah,'VM',it's good for us to look for humor in that situation....You know how some children get sentimentally attached to a certain toy and refuse to throw it away---even though that toy is in poor condition and lacks any obvious value?....Well,Ana's 'toy' is a coke-sniffing,fourth-rate golfer/surfer:lol:

Loungy
Mar 30th, 2010, 03:33 AM
I actually think she's afraid to play smaller tournaments because she might lose in earlier rounds and that would be really bad for her confidence.
I've been wondering if this is factoring in her decision to avoid MMs as much as her minor injuries. She seems to feel more motivated when facing top players. If she's not motivated, in the form she's in, she might end up losing in straights to someone ranked #80-90 in the 2R of a MM and collapse.

But staying on playing only the few tournaments she's playing and losing like she's losing, she's on the path to collapse anyway, just more slowly. So stuff like Fes, Barcelona and Marbella are worth a shot.

Lord Choc Ice
Mar 30th, 2010, 11:07 AM
Found this nice photo. Ana with Coach. It's photos like this that make you think "OK, they seem to get along well".

Cp6uja
Mar 30th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Ana is not the player she was a few seasons ago, you seem to think she's still an elite player who just happens to be ranked #58, she's not. She's now a mediocre player ranked #58, and she she should do what all players in that range do and that's play MM events. She needs to a) learn how to win matches again and b) play in a less pressurised situation.

I'd love her to play something like Barcelona, of course she won't, but don't worry, after inevitable first/second round losses in Stuttgart/Rome/Madrid, I think she'll finally get the message.She is simple not that kind of player, so why to use formula which not works for her even when she is at her best??? What is next experiment - to try playing with left hand or to use one handed backhand?

Also if she really want to back her old aggressive game style - it's no matter actually is her opponent #40 or #70 ranked because it's almost all depending on Ana (winner or UE after just 2-3 long rally). Stuttgart+Rome+Madrid (+Paris) is very good and logical claycourt schedule for Ana. Also don't forget that at her worst Ana is out of WTA TOP50, but even in that shape she is still TOP20 player at clay!

gaviotabr
Mar 30th, 2010, 02:24 PM
She is simple not that kind of player, so why to use formula which not works for her even when she is at her best??? What is next experiment - to try playing with left hand or to use one handed backhand?

Also if she really want to back her old aggressive game style - it's no matter actually is her opponent #40 or #70 ranked because it's almost all depending on Ana (winner or UE after just 2-3 long rally). Stuttgart+Rome+Madrid (+Paris) is very good and logical claycourt schedule for Ana. Also don't forget that at her worst Ana is out of WTA TOP50, but even in that shape she is still TOP20 player at clay!

Is she? We don't know that.. we might find that out in Stuttgart+Rome+Madrid+RG... but we don't know if she is top 20 on clay... Last year she surely wasn't, barely got points on clay, and didn't beat anyone in the top 40. And honestly.. Ana was playing 100000 times better this time last year, than she is playing now.

And what used to work for old Ana doesn't work for new Ana.. it's two completely different players. What you probably need to realize is that Ana needs to play matches.. if you see the patterns she is following lately, you can conclude logically that she has no idea about match management anymore. That is because she has barely played in more than one year.. she needs to get lots of matches in, so she learns how to manage a match again, and doesn't get so nervous while playing.. to make it a normal thing. Match management is even more important than getting her forehand together.. She can be hitting amazing forehand after amazing forehand, that if she doesn't have match management in her, she will get to clutch time and start to miss everything because of pure nerves. Choke the match away, as she has done a number of times in the past year. And she can only get match management if she plays lots of them, no matter which scrub the opponent is. So.. unless we expect her to suddenly start to play well, like a miracle, and beat top ten players left and right (because she will be getting top 10 players in the first couple of rounds of the clay tournaments she has in her schedule), then she won't be getting many matches at all. She will maybe play 4 or 5 matches, with luck, in 3 tournaments. Sorry, but that's nothing.. nothing.

Besides that.. she should put as a goal to be seeded for RG.. and that means she needs to get about 800-900 points during clay season. That's a LOT, so she might as well try to play more tournaments. She only has 15 counting to her rankings, out of 16 possible.. so she has a 0 for not playing, 2 0s for missing out on mandatory tournaments, 1 for Eastbourne and Tokyo, 5 for USO and IW... she can try to at least replace those 1s with some new tournaments.. If she doesn't get enough points she will be unseeded for both RG and Wimbledon.. and she might as well get a top 10 player in the very first round, which only makes things tougher. Ana is 0-6 against top 10 since Linz, and losing in the first round of RG and W would most probably mean Ana could drop out of the top 100.. maybe not even get into the main draw of the USO. She should try to hack up points left and right now, and that means playing tennis, as much as posible.. not running away from her problems, not get delusional thoughts of greatness.. just be realistic and get herself realistic goals, and fight for them.

Anyway.. I don't expect her to add any tournament, so don't worry Cp6uja. She will keep her top 10 schedule, whoring up WCs until the end of the year.. maybe then she will get some perspective.. Right now she will probably go WAG a bit.. then go practice.. and then go play those tournaments.. I think practice does nothing for Ana at the moment, she just can't execute in matches anything she has done well in practice, most probably due to her being a complete nervous wreck everytime. So I can only hope she does a whole lot of fitness during this training block, because she has been looking completely out of form.. her footwork has never been worse, and she is mistiming her shots all the time, getting past balls or not reaching to them enough. Her fitness is totally down the drain.. maybe if she improves that a bit, she can at least be on the ball, which will make her make less stupid UEs.

Cp6uja
Mar 30th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Is she? We don't know that.. we might find that out in Stuttgart+Rome+Madrid+RG... but we don't know if she is top 20 on clay... Last year she surely wasn't, barely got points on clay, and didn't beat anyone in the top 40.Last season che played at clay worse than ever, but still enough good to win Medina#18, Schiavone#44, Benesova#35, Errani#44 and Tanasugarn#52 droping just one set, and enough good to lead against Radwanska 4-0 in third set. But fact that she not close that match against Aga and easy lose vs Azarenka is proofs that she is still TOP20, but not even close to her 2007-08 claycourt performances where she is without any doubt WTA TOP2 claycourter by any criteria (#1 for 2007+2008 together) :shrug:

BTW last season she played only Rome before Paris (+ 1 Fed Cup match), so this season clay schedule with Sttutgart and Madrid added is much better. Also (by my calculations) for seeds status at RG about 600 pts from Stut.,Rome and Madrid will be enough (not 800-900) which is realistic scenario even if she stays on this #50 level (which means TOP20 on clay).

gaviotabr
Mar 30th, 2010, 03:23 PM
Last season che played at clay worse than ever, but still enough good to win Medina#18, Schiavone#44, Benesova#35, Errani#44 and Tanasugarn#52 droping just one set, and enough good to lead against Radwanska 4-0 in third set. But fact that she not close that match against Aga and easy lose vs Azarenka is proofs that she is still TOP20, but not even close to her 2007-08 claycourt performances where she is without any doubt WTA TOP2 claycourter by any criteria (#1 for 2007+2008 together) :shrug:

BTW last season she played only Rome before Paris (+ 1 Fed Cup match), so this season clay schedule with Sttutgart and Madrid added is much better. Also (by my calculations) for seeds status at RG about 600 pts from Stut.,Rome and Madrid will be enough (not 800-900) which is realistic scenario even if she stays on this #50 level (which means TOP20 on clay).

I had forgot about AMG.. :lol: And Benesova is cow on ice.. horrible.. Rest were out of top 40. But still.. the wins Ana had were not very meaningful.. And her choke against Radwasnka only proves my point.. she has no idea about match management anymore, and without that it really doesn't matter how she is playing. Still.. I don't think those wins mean that she is top 20 on clay at all.. And you have to concede that she is playing now at a lower level than last year. A lot lower. So we just can't know for sure or say she is top 20 on clay.. that's guessing in the dark.

600 points is still a LOT for Ana's standards right now.. she will be unseeded.. might meet anyone in the first round at Stuttgart and Madrid.. and anyone in the second round of Rome. She just might take on Azarenka in the first round of Stuttgart, Dementieva in the second round of Rome, and Henin in the first round of Madrid. Who would bet on Ana for a win? That would be 4 matches before RG, just one more than last year, and in a whole lot more need for points. She has gone 0-6 against top 10 since Linz 2008, and she is playing worse than ever right now. 600 points would mean she had to make at least QFs in all 3 tournaments. Ana has made 1 QF since IW 2009, and that was MM Brisbane. Ana has 315 points in 4 tournaments this year.. there is no reason to think she will suddenly get 600 points in 3 tournaments.. even more so being unseeded.

Abdel
Mar 30th, 2010, 06:03 PM
Ana must to play Marbella or Estoril or strasbourg or ponte Vedra Beach!!!
She must stop acting as if she was in the top5. she should play more (small) tournaments

spiritedenergy
Mar 30th, 2010, 06:13 PM
i think Ana is scared of overtraining for fitness like she did with scott and i think she partly blames that for her injuries and that's why she fired him... so i don't expect her fitness to improve at all in the short term. However in 2006-2007 even chubby she was a top-20 player so she could still get good results even if unfit. I agree the best thing for her now is just playing matches, singles and doubles, she did that after US Open 2008 and it somehow worked

-NAJ-
Mar 30th, 2010, 06:38 PM
:scared:

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gaviotabr
Mar 30th, 2010, 07:38 PM
:scared:

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Maybe they can do a WAG tracker. I'm sure April would be full of events.. :rolleyes:

Lord Choc Ice
Mar 30th, 2010, 07:39 PM
Maybe they can do a WAG tracker. I'm sure April would be full of events.. :rolleyes:
Either way I'm happy to see you back. :hug:

gaviotabr
Mar 30th, 2010, 07:47 PM
i think Ana is scared of overtraining for fitness like she did with scott and i think she partly blames that for her injuries and that's why she fired him... so i don't expect her fitness to improve at all in the short term. However in 2006-2007 even chubby she was a top-20 player so she could still get good results even if unfit. I agree the best thing for her now is just playing matches, singles and doubles, she did that after US Open 2008 and it somehow worked

Yes, you are probably right Luca. But back in 2005/06/07, Ana hada free mind... she was playing fearless tennis, which isn't the case now. So she should be doing anything to help her get back to form, and get her any sort of confidence and self belief. Instead, I always get the sense she is afraid to play tennis, and that deep down she doesn't want to be playing. Back in 2008, Ana loaded her schedule and she actually was able to play well for a couple of tournaments.. it somehow worked as you say, but back then she still seemed like she wanted to be playing.

gaviotabr
Mar 30th, 2010, 07:53 PM
Either way I'm happy to see you back. :hug:

I'm bored...

And this past week, I've begin to feel a bit of pity for Ana. I still think her attitude sucks, that she is running away from her problems, and she is getting what is fair for having been so unprofessional for so long.. but I've begin to think she is completely lost, and has no idea what to do.. all a big mess.

But well.. as long as Ana doesn't change her attitude completely.. and positions herself in another way towards here career.. recommits.. I'm sure things will just keep going down the drain.. because even if they are bad now, they can always get worse. Ana should realize that and stop waiting for good things to suddenly fall from the sky.

bruce goose
Mar 30th, 2010, 09:27 PM
I'm bored...

And this past week, I've begin to feel a bit of pity for Ana. I still think her attitude sucks, that she is running away from her problems, and she is getting what is fair for having been so unprofessional for so long.. but I've begin to think she is completely lost, and has no idea what to do.. all a big mess.

But well.. as long as Ana doesn't change her attitude completely.. and positions herself in another way towards here career.. recommits.. I'm sure things will just keep going down the drain.. because even if they are bad now, they can always get worse. Ana should realize that and stop waiting for good things to suddenly fall from the sky.Hey,AYE welcomed you back a couple weeks ago...with a hug...and you didn't say jack!!:(....That's okay,because true friendship doesn't make lots of selfish demands,so I'm sure you'll get around to it eventually:angel:

I agree that Ana is still mostly a mess...and that's reflected by the losers/hindrances-to-success that she hangs around in her freetime.However,I feel that she IS slowly realizing what the problem is,thanks to Heinz...and could be back on track next year.......Honestly,Ana has been sort of emotionally immature her whole life so,even though we'd like to see the maturity process speed up for her benefit,it rarely accelerates quickly.

Again,if she just goes for her shots w/o thinking a lot,she MIGHT pick up a few cheap wins just with her physical talent.She won't beat elite players,but she can avoid long losing streaks that could sap her confidence greatly

gaviotabr
Mar 30th, 2010, 09:49 PM
Hey,AYE welcomed you back a couple weeks ago...with a hug...and you didn't say jack!!:(....That's okay,because true friendship doesn't make lots of selfish demands,so I'm sure you'll get around to it eventually:angel:

I agree that Ana is still mostly a mess...and that's reflected by the losers/hindrances-to-success that she hangs around in her freetime.However,I feel that she IS slowly realizing what the problem is,thanks to Heinz...and could be back on track next year.......Honestly,Ana has been sort of emotionally immature her whole life so,even though we'd like to see the maturity process speed up for her benefit,it rarely accelerates quickly.

Again,if she just goes for her shots w/o thinking a lot,she MIGHT pick up a few cheap wins just with her physical talent.She won't beat elite players,but she can avoid long losing streaks that could sap her confidence greatly

Sorry Bruce!

Thank for the welcome! I'm not entirely back though.. I'm still pissed and disappointed..

As for the rest of the post, I don't think anything has changed at all yet..

Cp6uja
Mar 30th, 2010, 10:59 PM
:scared:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4141/nula.pngAna announce just week ago that in april will play in Sttutgart and on Porsche Open official site she is already listed like Wilde Card player of this event. But I also notice that this event is removed from Ana's "Tour Tracker" and that last week news about Ana's decision to compete there is deleted from Ana official site in meantime from some unknown reasons :confused: :confused: :confused:

gaviotabr
Mar 30th, 2010, 11:04 PM
Ana announce just week ago that in april will play in Sttutgart and on Porsche Open official site she is already listed like Wilde Card player of this event. But I also notice that this event is removed from Ana's "Tour Tracker" and that last week news about Ana's decision to compete there is deleted from Ana official site in meantime from some unknown reasons :confused: :confused: :confused:

Ana never announced she would play Stuttgart, and this event was never in her "Tour Tracker". The only source we had that she entered Stuttgart was a press article and the player list for the tournament. Nothing on Ana's web.

bruce goose
Mar 30th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Sorry Bruce!

Thank for the welcome! I'm not entirely back though.. I'm still pissed and disappointed..

As for the rest of the post, I don't think anything has changed at all yet..I can't argue with your skepticism cuz you have plenty of reason to doubt.I've been hoping to see some signs for a long while now so maybe that affects my judgment.The fact that Ana left her comfort zone,to some extent,by hiring a credible coach is what gives me optimism.Ana must realize how bad it would look if she fired him w/o giving him a chance to work with her so,in THAT respect,she's almost obligated to stay with him for a bit otherwise that would make it appear that she had no dedication.

Ana normally doesn't like being dictated to,so maybe we should be mildly hopeful that she has committed herself in this manner.Notice that I say "MILDLY" hopeful.There were some folks who thought that Ana was 'back' after one fluke victory over Stosur at Wimbledon(on Sam's worst surface)and two unimpressive wins over grass-court non-entities Errani and Hradecka...and THAT was a delusion by both Ana AND many of her fans,as Venus bluntly proved.However,Ana clung to the ADPD as a crutch for several years to excuse her coachless status,and now she has finally come clean,so I picture that as one of those baby steps...in this case a bigger one...that our Jelena has alluded to before

Cp6uja
Mar 30th, 2010, 11:44 PM
Ana never announced she would play Stuttgart, and this event was never in her "Tour Tracker". The only source we had that she entered Stuttgart was a press article and the player list for the tournament. Nothing on Ana's web.I'm pretty sure there is an article on Ana site couple days ago... but not anymore.

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:25 AM
I'm pretty sure there is an article on Ana site couple days ago... but not anymore.

I can garantee you there was never such article.

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:31 AM
I can't argue with your skepticism cuz you have plenty of reason to doubt.I've been hoping to see some signs for a long while now so maybe that affects my judgment.The fact that Ana left her comfort zone,to some extent,by hiring a credible coach is what gives me optimism.Ana must realize how bad it would look if she fired him w/o giving him a chance to work with her so,in THAT respect,she's almost obligated to stay with him for a bit otherwise that would make it appear that she had no dedication.

Ana normally doesn't like being dictated to,so maybe we should be mildly hopeful that she has committed herself in this manner.Notice that I say "MILDLY" hopeful.There were some folks who thought that Ana was 'back' after one fluke victory over Stosur at Wimbledon(on Sam's worst surface)and two unimpressive wins over grass-court non-entities Errani and Hradecka...and THAT was a delusion by both Ana AND many of her fans,as Venus bluntly proved.However,Ana clung to the ADPD as a crutch for several years to excuse her coachless status,and now she has finally come clean,so I picture that as one of those baby steps...in this case a bigger one...that our Jelena has alluded to before

I think this might be just an evasive step.. something she is doing to tell her concience that she is trying.. so she won't feel too guilty of neglecting her tennis and so people get of her back. I'm just not convinced.. I still see every sign that she is running from her problems, pushing real tennis away, not getting involved from the heart. I can't remember the last time I saw that Ana actually seemed to want to be playing a tennis match at a tournament... nowadays she always looks like she wants to be anywhere but there.

bruce goose
Mar 31st, 2010, 01:59 AM
I think this might be just an evasive step.. something she is doing to tell her concience that she is trying.. so she won't feel too guilty of neglecting her tennis and so people get of her back. I'm just not convinced.. I still see every sign that she is running from her problems, pushing real tennis away, not getting involved from the heart. I can't remember the last time I saw that Ana actually seemed to want to be playing a tennis match at a tournament... nowadays she always looks like she wants to be anywhere but there.Maybe your women's intuition is better than my first impressions of Ana's actions.I've seen a couple small things...like how she enjoyed the exo with Nole...actually having FUN on the tennis court...and she doesn't seem as depressed as she did during her Fed Cup embarrassment...or as she was when she quit twice last year...first at Wimbledon...and then on the entire season.I know that she's still nowhere near where she needs to be,but I'm hoping that we're seeing the first indications of Ana's psychological comeback...it may take a while like Capriati's.Though Ana doesn't use drugs like Jen did(HOPEFULLY...the A.A.T. doesn't strike me as the 'just say no' type,given his surfing and Hollywood buddies),she's had the same compulsive,dependent personality that an addict has,so her behavior was similar in many ways:help:.......starting to change,though,I think

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:38 PM
We should bet on how many matches Ana will play before RG. I say 4... Am I being optimistic?

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:41 PM
By the way.. I went to the club to play tennis today and saw a 30-something woman wearing Ana's adidas yellow dress.. :lol:

bruce goose
Mar 31st, 2010, 06:49 PM
By the way.. I went to the club to play tennis today and saw a 30-something woman wearing Ana's adidas yellow dress.. :lol:Tiene semana santa y pascua domingo muy bueno con Contador Zorro y tu familia:smooch:.....te extran~E:)

MathsGenius
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:18 PM
We should bet on how many matches Ana will play before RG. I say 4... Am I being optimistic?
And I say she'll play 6 matches 'till Wimbledon.

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:43 PM
Ana set for Stuttgart

Ana has entered the Porsche Tennis Grand Prix in Stuttgart during 26 April-2 May. It will be the second time she has played in Stuttgart, after she made her debut there in 2007, but the first time she has played the tournament since it switched to indoor clay.

The player field is set to be very strong, with eight of the world's current top 10 entered for the Premier $700,000 event.

"I'm looking forward to playing in Germany again," said Ana. "They obviously have a great tennis tradition there, and one of my best ever experiences in tennis came in Berlin, when I won the tournament there a few years ago.

"I've been to Stuttgart a couple of times. During my last visit there, in 2007, I actually played one of my best ever matches, against Patty Schnyder.

"Back then the tournament was played on indoor hard courts towards the end of the season. I am very interested to see what it feels like to play on indoor clay, and the entry list this year is very strong as usual."
Posted on Mar 31st 2010


Now that we have an official announcement, I guess it's save to say that she's NOT going to enter any events before Stuttgart.:(

She had no problem extending her stay in Florida and play Ponte Vedra Beach or go back to Europe and play Marbella or play at least Barcelona (after all, she loves Spain, doesn't she).
I'm incredibly annoyed with her not playing for another 4 weeks and literally praying that I won't have to see pictures of her showing up in Augusta!:(

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:51 PM
And I say she'll play 6 matches 'till Wimbledon.

Very likely to happen..

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2010, 07:53 PM
Now that we have an official announcement, I guess it's save to say that she's NOT going to enter any events before Stuttgart.:(

She had no problem extending her stay in Florida and play Ponte Vedra Beach or go back to Europe and play Marbella or play at least Barcelona (after all, she loves Spain, doesn't she).
I'm incredibly annoyed with her not playing for another 4 weeks and literally praying that I won't have to see pictures of her showing up in Augusta!:(

Maybe she will show up even earlier.. this week in Houston.. :rolleyes:

I'm sure her WAG Tracker is full of events.. :o

But didn't you hear the excuse? Ana can't play another tournament in these 4 weeks because she has to do promo stuff for the Madrid tournament. :lol: Should we expect her to do one promo thing each day for the next 4 weeks? :lol:

bruce goose
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:11 PM
Maybe she will show up even earlier.. this week in Houston.. :rolleyes:

I'm sure her WAG Tracker is full of events.. :o

But didn't you hear the excuse? Ana can't play another tournament in these 4 weeks because she has to do promo stuff for the Madrid tournament. :lol: Should we expect her to do one promo thing each day for the next 4 weeks? :lol:There are plenty of promotional commercial ads for the upcoming Masters,but NONE of them include Adam:confused:.I was sure they'd say something like,"Come see the Masters!Where you can watch the champion of the prestigious Australian Open...who is just as big as the champ at the mighty Albanian Open...or the world-famous Guatemalan Open titlist!" Or.....

"Come watch the Masters,where you can see a coke-sniffing pretty boy...for two rounds...until his sorry,minor-league ass fails to make the cut...AGAIN." Or....

"Horny teenage boys,do we have a tourney for YOU!Come see Ana Ivanovic!:hearts:Her bf sucks the chrome off a hubcap at golf,but Ana looks hot and we're desperately reaching out to you young folks.PLEASE watch:help:"

RG does SOOOO much to promote the arrival of Alberta Brianti,Jill Craybas and Anne Kremer,but the Masters does nothing for Adam!What a surprise.....Looks like Ana will be the main fairway attraction in THAT duo again...for 2 rounds,that is(wink,wink)

Curtos07
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:17 PM
"Horny teenage boys,do we have a tourney for YOU!Come see Ana Ivanovic!:hearts:Her bf sucks the chrome off a hubcap at golf,but Ana looks hot and we're desperately reaching out to you young folks.PLEASE watch:help:"


:lol: Keep Ana away from Tiger. :tape:

spiritedenergy
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:25 PM
Now that we have an official announcement, I guess it's save to say that she's NOT going to enter any events before Stuttgart.:(

She had no problem extending her stay in Florida and play Ponte Vedra Beach or go back to Europe and play Marbella or play at least Barcelona (after all, she loves Spain, doesn't she).
I'm incredibly annoyed with her not playing for another 4 weeks and literally praying that I won't have to see pictures of her showing up in Augusta!:(

at this point i believeAana is never going to play more than she is now, which means about 18 tournaments per year... she is just not that type of player... i just hope she'll switch premier events with international, playing premier events for he is now pointless. she probably thinks she is still up there with the top but she is an international level player now, it will take time before she realizes it... i hope her management would help her realize that:o

gaviotabr
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:32 PM
at this point i believeAana is never going to play more than she is now, which means about 18 tournaments per year... she is just not that type of player... i just hope she'll switch premier events with international, playing premier events for he is now pointless. she probably thinks she is still up there with the top but she is an international level player now, it will take time before she realizes it... i hope her management would help her realize that:o

You do know she has only 15 tournaments in her schedule right? If she played 18, I'd be happy already..

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 31st, 2010, 08:41 PM
There are plenty of promotional commercial ads for the upcoming Masters,but NONE of them include Adam:confused:.I was sure they'd say something like,"Come see the Masters!Where you can watch the champion of the prestigious Australian Open...who is just as big as the champ at the mighty Albanian Open...or the world-famous Guatemalan Open titlist!" Or.....

"Come watch the Masters,where you can see a coke-sniffing pretty boy...for two rounds...until his sorry,minor-league ass fails to make the cut...AGAIN." Or....

"Horny teenage boys,do we have a tourney for YOU!Come see Ana Ivanovic!:hearts:Her bf sucks the chrome off a hubcap at golf,but Ana looks hot and we're desperately reaching out to you young folks.PLEASE watch:help:"

RG does SOOOO much to promote the arrival of Alberta Brianti,Jill Craybas and Anne Kremer,but the Masters does nothing for Adam!What a surprise.....Looks like Ana will be the main fairway attraction in THAT duo again...for 2 rounds,that is(wink,wink)

:worship::worship::worship: I love you and your sharp sarcasm!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

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Ana playing only 15 tournaments is absolutely pathetic. What's her excuse? Overplaying? Over training?
Promotional duties? Take a book out of the "Sharapova Media Training 101 book" and day NO for the sake of your actual career, sweetie. Otherwise noone is gonna ask you to even promote a f*cking international level tournament anymore.
Well, it's not like she'd actually play those!:rolleyes:
Sorry for ranting, but WHAT has to happen in order for her to see that practice sessions and WAG-ging is NOT gonna help her in actual matches!:mad:

bruce goose
Apr 1st, 2010, 01:19 AM
:worship::worship::worship: I love you and your sharp sarcasm!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

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You can thank my father for jading me with his OWN sharp wit when I was a kid:lol:

Seriously,1 or 2 Dinara fans don't like Ana too much(though most posters in the forums of my other favorites are pretty gentle with Ana...and a few are fans,too),and I assured one of them that Ana really was a sincerely sweet gal...that it wasn't just an act.I told her that we NEED more Sweet Anas to lighten this often-dark world.......If only Ana could somehow glean a portion of Steffi's mentality by hanging around Heinz.Imagine how she would RULE tennis as a gorgeous raven-haired version of Steffi:eek:....Maybe allowing Ana to be a little soft in the head is God's way of preventing Ana from taking over the world;)

gaviotabr
Apr 1st, 2010, 03:05 AM
:worship::worship::worship: I love you and your sharp sarcasm!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

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Ana playing only 15 tournaments is absolutely pathetic. What's her excuse? Overplaying? Over training?
Promotional duties? Take a book out of the "Sharapova Media Training 101 book" and day NO for the sake of your actual career, sweetie. Otherwise noone is gonna ask you to even promote a f*cking international level tournament anymore.
Well, it's not like she'd actually play those!:rolleyes:
Sorry for ranting, but WHAT has to happen in order for her to see that practice sessions and WAG-ging is NOT gonna help her in actual matches!:mad:

I find this actually funny.. because she has said in interviews that she needs to play more matches.. and that she needs to get lots of matches in.. but not only isn't she doing anything to try to play more of these matches, but she is actually taking one month out now.. I would laugh if it wasn't so sad..

gaviotabr
Apr 1st, 2010, 07:47 PM
Just saw this on twitter:

Clijsterskim

Accepted WC into Marbella, heard its beautiful there, our house isn't ready yet and some extra matches on clay will do me good! 3 minutes ago via TinyTwitter

Even Kim, who said would look for a limited schedule, is planning on playing a MM on clay.. :lol: But hey.. that's just not good enough for Ana. :rolleyes:

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 1st, 2010, 09:00 PM
Ana is becoming a sorry fucking excuse for a tennis player!:(

FAMK
Apr 2nd, 2010, 01:05 AM
Just saw this on twitter:


Even Kim, who said would look for a limited schedule, is planning on playing a MM on clay.. :lol: But hey.. that's just not good enough for Ana. :rolleyes:

My thoughts exactly! This would of been the perfect tournament for Ana to add to her schedule.

Loungy
Apr 2nd, 2010, 09:49 AM
We should bet on how many matches Ana will play before RG. I say 4... Am I being optimistic?
Since you've taken my guess, I'll go all out optimistic and say 6.

She should make "getting 3 wins until RG!!!!!" a goal.

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 2nd, 2010, 10:02 AM
Coaching update

Ana today confirmed that her co-operation with Heinz Gunthardt will continue into the clay court season. The pair began working together in February, and agreed to reassess things after the Sony Ericsson Open in Miami.

"I feel I improved a lot over the last month," said Ana in Miami last week. "Obviously working with a new coach, with Heinz, I can see improvements actually almost on daily basis. It's very encouraging."



It's something.:shrug:

Cp6uja
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:29 PM
Latest Coaching update is very good news, because if they fire former Steffi Graf long-time coach after just 50 days it will be sure sign of panic and anarchy of Ana's team, no matter how good is her results or not in so short period. Last season they fired Craig Kardon just before start of Grass season, surface where players which he coached have biggest success, so Ana is in situation in 2009 that during clay season her coached grasscourt expert (Kardon) and during Grass season her coached proven claycourt expert (Groenfeld). Total mess.

Talking again about Ana 2010 schedule I must to say that only event which she really missed so far and should to play is Dubai, but her mental state of mind after that horrible FED CUP weekend against Russia will probably make of her easy target even for mediocre opponents. So reason why Ana played just 15 events in last 12 months is more because her terrible 2nd half of 2009 season schedule. If Ana will play Stuttgart, Rome, Madrid, Paris, grass_warmup and Wimbledon - that means 10 events (including 5 two weekers) + one FED CUP and one EXO weekend in first half of season which is OK schedulle IMO for 1st half.

gaviotabr
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:45 PM
Latest Coaching update is very good news, because if they fire former Steffi Graf long-time coach after just 50 days it will be sure sign of panic and anarchy of Ana's team, no matter how good is her results or not in so short period. Last season they fired Craig Kardon just before start of Grass season, surface where players which he coached have biggest success, so Ana is in situation in 2009 that during clay season her coached grasscourt expert (Kardon) and during Grass season her coached proven claycourt expert (Groenfeld). Total mess.

The coaching update was all too predictable.. no surprise.

And well.. expect her to go running back to APDP for Wimbledon if she gets no results during clay court season. This is all so predictable... :rolleyes:

The annoucement says it clearly... she will continue to work with him through the clay court season. I very much doubt they would keep him if she keeps sucking.

Talking again about Ana 2010 schedule I must to say that only event which she really missed so far and should to play is Dubai, but her mental state of mind after that horrible FED CUP weekend against Russia will probably make of her easy target even for mediocre opponents. So reason why Ana played just 15 events in last 12 months is more because her terrible 2nd half of 2009 season schedule. If Ana will play Stuttgart, Rome, Madrid, Paris, grass_warmup and Wimbledon - that means 10 events (including 5 two weekers) + one FED CUP and one EXO weekend in first half of season which is OK schedulle IMO for 1st half.
Actually... no... she has only 15 tournaments in her schedule for the whole year of 2010. We are not even talking about her playing only 15 tournaments in the past year, since that was clear once she cut her season short. We are talking about her not wanting to change that.. she is still only planning on playing that ammount of tournaments for this entire season. That's not enough, especially for someone who is only playing 1 or 2 matches each tournament. And pleeease.. do not count that one set exho as a tournament.. :tape::help::lol::rolleyes::o

gaviotabr
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:46 PM
Since you've taken my guess, I'll go all out optimistic and say 6.

She should make "getting 3 wins until RG!!!!!" a goal.

I think that's asking too much of her.. she can't set realistic goals to save herself. :tape:

-NAJ-
Apr 2nd, 2010, 03:56 PM
Very strong MD in Stuttgart:eek:
Strange decision to play Stuttgart, not Fes. But it probably has to do with her pride:lol:

Curtos07
Apr 2nd, 2010, 04:24 PM
I have a feeling she'll be back with APDP by the summer too. :tape:

I loved how her site keeps bragging how great she looks in practice. I don't doubt that, but when are they going to realize that practice and matches are two totally different things? Versi thought it was so amazing how she beat a top 5 player.....IN PRACTICE!!!! :lol: You see why I loather her management so much? Yes, I know I been very defensive of Ana lately trying to play devil's advocate in regards to her poor scheduling and I still believe she does want to play more as naive I may sound saying that, but come on already, practice ain't going to do her shit unless she shows the improvements in matches. Add at least something or give a thorough explanation on why they decided to go the route they did with her schedule.

Cp6uja
Apr 4th, 2010, 12:33 PM
1. Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) - #2
2. Dinara Safina (RUS) - #3
3. Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) - #4
4. Venus Williams (USA) - #5
5. Elena DEmentieva (RUS) - #6
6. Victoria Azarenka (BLR) - #7
7. Jelena Jankovic (SRB) - #8
8. Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) - #9
9. Samantha Stosur (AUS) - #10
10. Flavia Pennetta (ITA) - #13
11. Yanina Wickmayer (BEL) - #14
12. Francesca Schiavone (ITA) - #17
13. Nadia Petrova (RUS) - #18
14. Jie Zheng (CHN) - #19
15. Shahar Peer (ISR) - #20
16. Katarina Srebotnik (SLO) - #20*** (P.R.)
17. Aravane Rezai (FRA) - #21
18. Alisa Kleybanova (RUS) - #22
19. Vera Zvonareva (RUS) - #23
20. Alona Bondarenko (UKR) - #24
21. Daniela Hantuchova (SVK) - #25
22. Maria Jose Marinez Sanchez (ESP) - #27
23. Dominika Cibulkova (SVK) - #28
24. Maria Kirilenko (RUS) - #30
25. Elena Vesnina (RUS) - #34
26. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (RUS) - #35
27. Carla Suarez Navarro (ESP) - #36
28. Gisela Dulko (ARG) - #37
29. Virginie Razzano (FRA) - #39
30. Lucia Safarova (SVK) - #41
31. Melanie Oudin (USA) - #42
32. Sara Errani (ITA) - #43
33. Andrea Petkovic (GER) - #44
34. Vera Dushevina (RUS) - #45
35. Patty Schnyder (SUI) - #46
36. Yaroslava Shvedova (KAZ) - #48
37. Alexandra Dulgheru (ROUN) - #49
38. Olga Govortsova (BLR) - #50
39. Polona Hercog (SLO) - #51
40. Tathiana Garbin (ITA) - #53
41. Timea Bacsinszky (SUI) - #54
42. Roberta Vinci (ITA) - #55
43. Ana Ivanovic (SRB) - #58


Ana will play in Rome without using Wild Card :worship: :coolranking: :rocker2:
Please don't start now with comments this is not event for Ana... there will be Ana and 42 TOP10 players...etc She can win at least one or two matches :shrug:

BTW for all who want to see Ana playing International level events I think I have good news. I think that Ana Ivanovic 2010 warm-up tournament at grass will be 's-Hertogenbosch (Holland, 220K$ International)! Reason for this my exclusive speculation is fact that since this year former ORDINA Open mutate into UNICEF Open and if Ana stays healthy after RG I have strong feeling that she will choose this International event for Wimbledon preparations (instead Premier Eastbourne). Other "Unicef players" which I also expect there is Jelena Jankovic and Justine Henin, and also it's not secret that most famous Flemish woman Kim Clijsters traditionally like to play charity events and like to play in Holland.

gaviotabr
Apr 4th, 2010, 02:04 PM
Just saw this on twitter.. I wonder if it's true...

Kim Clijsters might play doubles with Ana Ivanovic in Stuttgart. Maybe Ana can take some confidence from her. KC got a lot for the moment. 3 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/MyTennisFilip/status/11586284779

I would really like it.. Ana seems to get along very well with Kim, and playing doubles can be good not only to get more match play but to practice serve and volleys. And it can also be fun for her.. so she chills out on a real match situation.

FAMK
Apr 4th, 2010, 02:22 PM
I would looove that! :D Hope it's true.

jelenacg
Apr 4th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Just saw this on twitter.. I wonder if it's true...



http://twitter.com/MyTennisFilip/status/11586284779

I would really like it.. Ana seems to get along very well with Kim, and playing doubles can be good not only to get more match play but to practice serve and volleys. And it can also be fun for her.. so she chills out on a real match situation.


That would be good for Ana but i`m not sure it`s true :p
Ana should pay doubles in all tournaments now imo,in that way she would focus more on tennis and she would have more match practice
At least it`s some tennis related news after so many love stories lately :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
Apr 4th, 2010, 02:54 PM
That would be good for Ana but i`m not sure it`s true :p
Ana should pay doubles in all tournaments now imo,in that way she would focus more on tennis and she would have more match practice
At least it`s some tennis related news after so many love stories lately :rolleyes:

Hey Jelena!

Yeah.. Since she is not willing to add tournaments, she should at least try to play doubles often.. get more match play that way.

I hope we only get tennis related news from now on.. I'm so over these love stories news.. after all, time will tell. Besides that, I just want to see Ana playing well again.. it has been ages. I was just now watching the RG 2008 final.. Ana used to be SO good.. I think that was her last real good match. I know she had Linz.. but... 2 years since Ana had that aura of great player matching her tennis level on court. Sometimes I wonder if we'll ever be able to see Ana playing that well again. I'm really not sure.. :sobbing:

jelenacg
Apr 4th, 2010, 03:27 PM
Hey Jelena!

Yeah.. Since she is not willing to add tournaments, she should at least try to play doubles often.. get more match play that way.

I hope we only get tennis related new from now on.. I'm so over these love stories news.. after all, time will tell. Besides that, I just want to see Ana plying well again.. it has been ages. I was just now watching the RG 2008 final.. Ana used to be SO good.. I think that was her last real good match. I know she had Linz.. but... 2 years since Ana had that aura of great player matching her tennis level on court. Sometimes I wonder if we'll ever be able to see Ana playing that well again. I'm really not sure.. :sobbing:

Me too
I`m so sick of this love triangle stories :rolleyes: I don`t care with whom she sleeps as long as she starts winning again :rolleyes:
Watching Ana`s old matches is not good for your health :lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 4th, 2010, 03:40 PM
Me too
I`m so sick of this love triangle stories :rolleyes: I don`t care with whom she sleeps as long as she starts winning again :rolleyes:
Watching Ana`s old matches is not good for your health :lol:

Yes.. seeing how good Ana once was just hurts.. especially if I think about how bad some matches have been this year. If only Ana was playing like in 2008, she would be racking up titles left and right. :sobbing:

And about the gossip part.. All I hope is that Ana doesn't get hurt.. and recommits to tennis. I want to see her happy again. Sorry.. but I haven't seen her looking truly happy in ages. Especially on court.. I want to see her showing she loves tennis again.. I'm sure if she does (which she hasn't been doing), tennis will love her back.

jelenacg
Apr 4th, 2010, 03:52 PM
Yes.. seeing how good Ana once was just hurts.. especially if I think about how bad some matches have been this year. If only Ana was playing like in 2008, she would be racking up titles left and right. :sobbing:

And about the gossip part.. All I hope is that Ana doesn't get hurt.. and recommits to tennis. I want to see her happy again. Sorry.. but I haven't seen her looking truly happy in ages. Especially on court.. I want to see her showing she loves tennis again.. I'm sure if she does (which she hasn't been doing), tennis will love her back.

That`s really nice way to say it :awww:

gaviotabr
Apr 4th, 2010, 03:57 PM
That`s really nice way to say it :awww:

:sobbing:

The poet within me surfaces sometimes.. :lol:

jelenacg
Apr 4th, 2010, 04:05 PM
:sobbing:

The poet within me surfaces sometimes.. :lol:

:lol:
Yes i see that :hug:

bruce goose
Apr 4th, 2010, 06:19 PM
I`m so sick of this love triangle stories :rolleyes: I don`t care with whom she sleeps as long as she starts winning again :rolleyes:
Amen to that,Jelena!Chris Evert picked some real two-legged dildos as bfs and husbands,yet she managed to block that out on the tennis court.Unfortunately,Ana is MUCH more emotionally fragile than Chris was.

I wouldn't mind seeing a break-up presser from Ana where she announces the disposal of the AAT,but I'd rather see her WIN with the douchebag than be with Novak and suck on court.In the long run,it'd be nice if Ana could make much better choices in her personal life,yet the ultimate goal is to restore her tennis skill---to bring her back to #1:cool:

Curtos07
Apr 4th, 2010, 07:14 PM
I hope that's true. I love Kim too so they seem like a good doubles team. If she ain't going to add to her schedule, then at least play doubles. :)

MathsGenius
Apr 4th, 2010, 07:50 PM
If she's happy and satisfy with her love life, she wouldn't look so desperate on the court.

gloria7
Apr 4th, 2010, 09:20 PM
I hope she`s ok.
In last interview she gave to MAP,Ana was answering so openly...
MAP:"Is it nice to be loved?"
Ana:"Yes,it is.Without love,everything is pointless".

-NAJ-
Apr 4th, 2010, 09:43 PM
BTW for all who want to see Ana playing International level events I think I have good news. I think that Ana Ivanovic 2010 warm-up tournament at grass will be 's-Hertogenbosch (Holland, 220K$ International)! Reason for this my exclusive speculation is fact that since this year former ORDINA Open mutate into UNICEF Open and if Ana stays healthy after RG I have strong feeling that she will choose this International event for Wimbledon preparations (instead Premier Eastbourne). Other "Unicef players" which I also expect there is Jelena Jankovic and Justine Henin, and also it's not secret that most famous Flemish woman Kim Clijsters traditionally like to play charity events and like to play in Holland.
:p
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7731/junpt.png

Playing doubles will help her for sure, i just hope that's true:lol:

Lord Choc Ice
Apr 5th, 2010, 02:15 AM
Ana has confirmed Rome in her schedule according to Facebook. Just in case nobody knew. :p

Nena_xxx
Apr 5th, 2010, 12:34 PM
So Ana plays Stuttgart, Rome and Madrid... Not bad at all... :D If only she apply for the doubles in these tournaments... It would be brilliant!

Sor.ana
Apr 5th, 2010, 01:46 PM
"Sick of crying, tired of trying, yeah, I'm smiling, but deep inside, I'm dying"

So cute sentence. Is it Ana who say that ?

Hope she'll be right back on clay. She's better on this surface, I guess.

soul
Apr 5th, 2010, 03:58 PM
So Ana plays Stuttgart, Rome and Madrid... Not bad at all... :D If only she apply for the doubles in these tournaments... It would be brilliant!

I definetely agree, because she needs more and more and more matches

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 03:07 AM
Being an Ana fan is SO tough.. really.. This past week I was much more condencendent with her.. but boy.. does she make things hard.. Since I had seen no pics of Ana this week, I thought she might not have gone WAGing... but that was just sweet ilusion.. She is such a regular at golf tournaments that people don't even bother anymore. Just read this from someone who attended the Shell Houston Open, the tournament Adam played the past week:

I attended the SHO and Ana Ivanovic walked every hole following Adam except the last nine - they are definately still together

http://z8.invisionfree.com/Adam_Scott/index.php?showtopic=2428&st=0&#last

You know? For all I care she can do anything with her life.. But then don't go saying she is "doing everything possible to play well again". That's what pisses me off BIG time. Own up to your choices Ana! :mad:

It was so obvious though.. I mean.. she isn't doing a thing in April.. obvious that she would go WAGing... :rolleyes: It's things like this though that should make us get ready for first round losses after first round losses. I can't think of many other players who treat their careers in such an unprofessional way.. no wonder she is losing match after match. :tape:

bruce goose
Apr 6th, 2010, 05:19 AM
Izzy,I had my hopes up,too,that Ana might realize what a loser the AAT is,but I hope that her increased love for tennis might prove to her that she doesn't need any more cheap,ultra-short-term,artificial self-esteem boosts from her Manipulator.As I've posted earlier,though,Evert also had a habit of picking two-legged dildos like Ana does.......she just never let it affect her on-court play.Perhaps Heinz can help Ana become more focused on court regardless of the lowlifes that she hangs with OFF-court........We'll see whether that's true by year's end;that's certainly long enough to judge yea or nay

Curtos07
Apr 6th, 2010, 05:36 AM
I am trying to think of a reason to defend Ana's decision to WAG here........ give me a moment......I can't. :help:

Oh Ana, please don't tell me this is why you have decided not to play in more tournaments? :smash: I guess this means she's going to be at Augusta too, huh?

gloria7
Apr 6th, 2010, 05:59 AM
Scenario 1:She wasn`t there.

Scenario 2:She was there,dressed as Kate Hudson,so no one recognized her.

Scenario 3:She was there,hiding herself from photographers and dealing with rumors .

Scenario 4:She`s going to be at Augusta,and then,both of them are coming to Spain,since
he won`t play any tournament for the next 3 weeks.

spiritedenergy
Apr 6th, 2010, 07:13 AM
Being an Ana fan is SO tough.. really.. This past week I was much more condencendent with her.. but boy.. does she make things hard.. Since I had seen no pics of Ana this week, I thought she might not have gone WAGing... but that was just sweet ilusion.. She is such a regular at golf tournaments that people don't even bother anymore. Just read this from someone who attended the Shell Houston Open, the tournament Adam played the past week:



http://z8.invisionfree.com/Adam_Scott/index.php?showtopic=2428&st=0&#last

You know? For all I care she can do anything with her life.. But then don't go saying she is "doing everything possible to play well again". That's what pisses me off BIG time. Own up to your choices Ana! :mad:

It was so obvious though.. I mean.. she isn't doing a thing in April.. obvious that she would go WAGing... :rolleyes: It's things like this though that should make us get ready for first round losses after first round losses. I can't think of many other players who treat their careers in such an unprofessional way.. no wonder she is losing match after match. :tape:

she is in love Izzy, and she lost her mind:o
She is doing like Vaidisova who was attending all Radek's matches but losing all of her own:tape:
I've always said that, her problems started when she dated Verdasco... it doesn't mean that men are the problem, the problem is that men are her top priorities now:rolleyes:

FAMK
Apr 6th, 2010, 07:56 AM
:tape:

Nikkiri
Apr 6th, 2010, 10:33 AM
Oh god. Shut up.

Adrian1092
Apr 6th, 2010, 11:32 AM
I'm so sick of Ana's attitude :o It's just a complete joke..... she's supposed to be a top athlete and if she really wants to get back I can't see what the hell is wrong with that excuse of a brain that she has... I know we're all being harsh but it's going too far :sad: Ana :tape:

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Izzy,I had my hopes up,too,that Ana might realize what a loser the AAT is,but I hope that her increased love for tennis might prove to her that she doesn't need any more cheap,ultra-short-term,artificial self-esteem boosts from her Manipulator.As I've posted earlier,though,Evert also had a habit of picking two-legged dildos like Ana does.......she just never let it affect her on-court play.Perhaps Heinz can help Ana become more focused on court regardless of the lowlifes that she hangs with OFF-court........We'll see whether that's true by year's end;that's certainly long enough to judge yea or nay

I don't think anyone can help her really.. it's completely up to her to get her head together and see what her priorities are. Maybe she needs to fall out of the top 100, which is bound to happen after Wimbledon.. maybe she will just keep this: "WTF is happening to me? I can't even believe this! The world is against me!" kind of attitude she has had for the past couple of years... maybe she is too stubborn and will never accept that what is happening to her tennis career is a direct result of her attitude and approach to life.. obviously in that case it won't be long before she has to play 10K tournaments. :o

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:26 PM
she is in love Izzy, and she lost her mind:o
She is doing like Vaidisova who was attending all Radek's matches but losing all of her own:tape:
I've always said that, her problems started when she dated Verdasco... it doesn't mean that men are the problem, the problem is that men are her top priorities now:rolleyes:

Yeah Luca.. that she is in love it's pretty obvious.. that she lost her mind too.. and of course, her priorities are nowhere near a tennis court. I mean.. look at Clijsters.. with her husband and baby daughter.. winning Miami and going straight to Marbella to play on clay. The day after JJ lost her match in Miami I read she wrote on facebook she was already in Bolletieri's practicing on green clay for Charleston.. And these are people who could have taken a week off to rest, they are playing well and have done some winning recently. No.. totally professional, practicing and focused. Ana on the other hand, can't win if her life depended on it.. has been playing abysmal tennis.. and what does she do in the first opportunity? Take a week off to WAG. She might even have been carrying that huge purse of hers on her injured shoulder like in Australia last year.. :o wouldn't surprise me.. :shrug:

You know.. it's just disappointing.. I mean.. since she is this much in love, she could follow on Adam's example at least.. He doesn't leave his practice sessions to watch her play tennis.. :o He played well last week.. :shrug::tape: But nooo.. she just has to follow him everywhere. :o

You mention Verdasco.. while I do agree Ana has her head on men and not on tennis, at least back in late 2008 she was trying to play.. She added Moscow, played doubles.. she was trying.. and got there her MM title.. the last one she has won.. :sobbing:

Maybe we should even look at his schedule to see when she will lose her matches.. I mean.. just crossed my mind.. maybe deep down in her subconcious she doesn't really want to win and have to play another match, because that would prevent her from taking a week off and go WAGing.. :o:tape:

I was just reading the off season thread.. I said something that I keep thinking is spot on. When Ana started to WAG left and right I said it really didn't matter how much she practiced, it would produce no effect other then keeping her concience cool since she would be telling herself she was trying. Because truth is, she is not serious about this, she is not focused, she doesn't have her head, heart and soul into tennis. She has her head, heart and soul into something else.. and while she keeps things that way, doesn't matter if she has a great coach or if he makes her practice... she won't have that edge that separates a challenger player to someone in the top 20. It's the will to win that makes a great player.. and Ana has absolutely none of that at the moment.

I have to say I hate to have been so right.. ugh.. Reading back.. people were telling me stuff left and right.. that we should wait... this and that.. blablabla.. Happened just as I feared.. :sobbing: Hate this!

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Scenario 1:She wasn`t there.

Scenario 2:She was there,dressed as Kate Hudson,so no one recognized her.

Scenario 3:She was there,hiding herself from photographers and dealing with rumors .

Scenario 4:She`s going to be at Augusta,and then,both of them are coming to Spain,since
he won`t play any tournament for the next 3 weeks.

Scenario 1: Too good to be true..

Scenario 2: Hilarious.. :lol:

Scenario 3: Most probable.. :sobbing:

Scenario 4: I think she might not be in Augusta.. not because she takes tennis seriously.. :rolleyes:, but because there will be too much press.. don't see her wanting that.. anyway.. definitely not during the whole tournament since she has to be in Madrid monday morning.. But I'm sure Adam will go "practice" tennis with her during his weeks off.. Best way to make her focus in her job.. :tape:

jelenacg
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:35 PM
she is in love Izzy, and she lost her mind:o
She is doing like Vaidisova who was attending all Radek's matches but losing all of her own:tape:
I've always said that, her problems started when she dated Verdasco... it doesn't mean that men are the problem, the problem is that men are her top priorities now:rolleyes:

This pretty much sums it up :worship: What a nice news to see when you wake up :rolleyes:
If she doesn`t care, i don`t care either :shrug:

I see she will be back to APDP after successful clay season :lol::lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:42 PM
This pretty much sums it up :worship: What a nice news to see when you wake up :rolleyes:
If she doesn`t care, i don`t care either :shrug:

I see she will be back to APDP after successful clay season :lol::lol:

Hey Jelena!

I bet we will see her back with Sven when Wimbledon comes around.. :o She will thank Heinz for the effort and say they simply didn't match. :help:

jelenacg
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Hey Jelena!

I bet we will see her back with Sven when Wimbledon comes around.. :o She will thank Heinz for the effort and say they simply didn't match. :help:

Yes :lol:

We should try to predict what she will say in Madrid presser :lol:
1) I feel confidence working with Heinz
2)I felt i improved a lot while working with him
3)I had very good practices
4) I felt i played good in last couple of matches even if i lost them
5)I`m confident i`ll reach top 10-20 again
6)when you are at the bottom there is only a way up
7) looking forward on playing and competing in Madrid ,Madrid is a great tournament

:rolls:

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:57 PM
I'm curious what will Holzman and Gavin say once Ana is out of the top 100. Because the "out of the top 50" thing spurred some pretty defensive interviews... :lol: Holzman even said "Ana is completely focused on getting back. She practices hard and then when she looks at rankings she is shocked". :rolleyes: She really shouldn't be shocked.. it's only a natural result..

I wouldn't be disappointed or upset with all this if Ana could just be honest.. own it up.. but well.. she will never do that.. I wish I could just get over her.. but such waste of talent pisses me off, even more so with her saying she is doing everything she can to get back.. :bs: She is not.. she is just running from her problems.. :o Will she ever ever realize how wrong she is? I don't think so.. if she did, then that would be the day things could finally turn around.

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 01:58 PM
Yes :lol:

We should try to predict what she will say in Madrid presser :lol:
1) I feel confidence working with Heinz
2)I felt i improved a lot while working with him
3)I had very good practices
4) I felt i played good in last couple of matches even if i lost them
5)I`m confident i`ll reach top 10-20 again
6)when you are at the bottom there is only a way up
7) looking forward on playing and competing in Madrid ,Madrid is a great tournament

:rolls:

:lol:

You just summed it up! We don't even need to read the transcript of the presser anymore.. :lol:

MathsGenius
Apr 6th, 2010, 02:03 PM
She is doing like Vaidisova who was attending all Radek's matches but losing all of her own
I just hope she won't end her carrier like Vaidišová, loosing in the first round of the second-tier ITF tournament. :sad::tape::tape::tape:

jelenacg
Apr 6th, 2010, 02:13 PM
I'm curious what will Holzman and Gavin say once Ana is out of the top 100. Because the "out of the top 50" thing spurred some pretty defensive interviews... :lol: Holzman even said "Ana is completely focused on getting back. She practices hard and then when she looks at rankings she is shocked". :rolleyes: She really shouldn't be shocked.. it's only a natural result..

I wouldn't be disappointed or upset with all this if Ana could just be honest.. own it up.. but well.. she will never do that.. I wish I could just get over her.. but such waste of talent pisses me off, even more so with her saying she is doing everything she can to get back.. :bs: She is not.. she is just running from her problems.. :o Will she ever ever realize how wrong she is? I don't think so.. if she did, then that would be the day things could finally turn around.

She is honest :rolleyes:
It`s April and instead of being on tennis court she is on golf course .What more do we need ? I think her choices and decisions are pretty clear

Now don`t expect her to ever say that in the presser.She has a life time deal with Adidas and she will play 15 tournaments every year in next 6-7 years.That`s 6-8 millions a year,trust me she will continue to torture us .
Ofc she can always get some injury and end season earlier like last year
Why do i have the feeling that she will end this season earlier as well ? :lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 02:29 PM
She is honest :rolleyes:
It`s April and instead of being on tennis court she is on golf course .What more do we need ? I think her choices and decisions are pretty clear

Now don`t expect her to ever say that in the presser.She has a life time deal with Adidas and she will play 15 tournaments every year in next 6-7 years.That`s 6-8 millions a year,trust me she will continue to torture us .
Ofc she can always get some injury and end season earlier like last year
Why do i have the feeling that she will end this season earlier as well ? :lol:

I guess you are right Jelena.. her actions speak for her.. loud and clear...

What I meant with own up is not say it to the press.. that's just never going to happen.. it's just not go saying she is doing everything possible, that she trying her hardest.. that she wants to win slams and get back to the top 10.. she doesn't really have to say any of that. She could as well not look like a wet puppy every time she shows up... she looks miserable. And I don't mean only when she is playing.. obviously there she looks like a shot in the tail puppy.. completely desperate.. She has lost all her spark. But she doesn't look any happier anywhere else to be honest..

And I'm pretty sure that she will end the season at the very same point she did last year... she will just make up some excuse and go WAGing.. :rolleyes:

jelenacg
Apr 6th, 2010, 02:47 PM
I just hope she won't end her carrier like Vaidišová, loosing in the first round of the second-tier ITF tournament. :sad::tape::tape::tape:

Don`t worry she won`t :lol: They can`t even make her enter MM tournament :rolleyes:
I guess you are right Jelena.. her actions speak for her.. loud and clear...

What I meant with own up is not say it to the press.. that's just never going to happen.. it's just not go saying she is doing everything possible, that she trying her hardest.. that she wants to win slams and get back to the top 10.. she doesn't really have to say any of that. She could as well not look like a wet puppy every time she shows up... she looks miserable. And I don't mean only when she is playing.. obviously there she looks like a shot in the tail puppy.. completely desperate.. She has lost all her spark. But she doesn't look any happier anywhere else to be honest..

And I'm pretty sure that she will end the season at the very same point she did last year... she will just make up some excuse and go WAGing.. :rolleyes:

Sure she doesn`t have to say all of that but just bc she is saying that it doesn`t mean she really means it :lol:
Ana looks miserable on court bc of her own decision.If it really hurts her that much she would do something to change it .Clearly it doesn`t
And every decision we make has consequence,so her wagging and not willing to commit to tennis has as a consequence her looking miserable on court

And then they say life is not fair :lol::lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Don`t worry she won`t :lol: They can`t even make her enter MM tournament :rolleyes: :

If she keeps this up, there will come a time she won't even be able to enter MM tournaments.. :sobbing:


Sure she doesn`t have to say all of that but just bc she is saying that it doesn`t mean she really means it :lol:

I know she doesn't mean it.. but this only makes things worse.. she doesn't own up to her choices and go out saying lies.. She could at least save herself from looking like a complete fool.. :o

Ana looks miserable on court bc of her own decision.If it really hurts her that much she would do something to change it .Clearly it doesn`t
And every decision we make has consequence,so her wagging and not willing to commit to tennis has as a consequence her looking miserable on court

And then they say life is not fair :lol::lol:

Life is fair.. you get what you cement.. She is getting only what is fair due to her lack of commitment..

But you know.. I do think it hurts her.. I don't think she is happy in anything.. she looks miserable all the time.. but her twisted reaction is not to try to really do something, it's to run away from the root of the problems.. she is running away from tennis like a rat from a cat. At the same time.. I get the feeling she is so stubborn that she proabably tells herself all the time that she is trying.. Like.. she gets a coach, she goes to practice.. all that, she feels like it's enough to say that she is trying, to calm her concience down.. In reality it means nothing, since she doesn't have her heart and soul into it, but she is so stubborn that I'm sure she is trying to convince herself that it's a lot and that things are not happening as she wants because the world is against her. I often have the feeling Ana has this attitude.. that she is waiting for things to happen, instead of making them happen, and since they obviously don't.. she goes all "Poor me.. nothing goes my way.. the world is agaisnt me..", which is the perfect cue to just run away.

gloria7
Apr 6th, 2010, 03:06 PM
I`m still not sure that she was in Houston last week .There are no pics of her,just one guy saw her,journalists didn`t mention her being there and they always write about her presense at Adam`s tournaments.Seems incredible that no one recognize her.
Girls,to me,Ana isn`t just tennis player anymore.She is ,also,a model and young business woman.I think that she will continue to develop all three aspects of her career til the very end.Holzman was always very open when he explained why he supported Ana financialy:"She is very talented player and,very beautiful girl".She keep insisting on that sexy image of Ana,and when she won RG,he yelled:"You wanted the most beautiful no.1 in the world.There she is,now pay for it!"And i was wondering,why Stacey Allaster took Ana to Fox studio instead of Venus or Kim.I realised that president of Sony Ericsson,Bert Nordberg likes Ana,so WTA used her to praise Sony Ericsson as a sponsor,and two days later,they renewed their sponsorship with WTA.So Ana did her job great,and i can see her,since she loves posing and seems to enjoy playng exo and promoting events,as good replacement for Allaster.

gaviotabr
Apr 6th, 2010, 03:27 PM
I`m still not sure that she was in Houston last week .There are no pics of her,just one guy saw her,journalists didn`t mention her being there and they always write about her presense at Adam`s tournaments.Seems incredible that no one recognize her.
Girls,to me,Ana isn`t just tennis player anymore.She is ,also,a model and young business woman.I think that she will continue to develop all three aspects of her career til the very end.Holzman was always very open when he explained why he supported Ana financialy:"She is very talented player and,very beautiful girl".She keep insisting on that sexy image of Ana,and when she won RG,he yelled:"You wanted the most beautiful no.1 in the world.There she is,now pay for it!"And i was wondering,why Stacey Allaster took Ana to Fox studio instead of Venus or Kim.I realised that president of Sony Ericsson,Bert Nordberg likes Ana,so WTA used her to praise Sony Ericsson as a sponsor,and two days later,they renewed their sponsorship with WTA.So Ana did her job great,and i can see her,since she loves posing and seems to enjoy playng exo and promoting events,as good replacement for Allaster.

Ana is not very well known in the US.. She was only photographed and mentioned when she was with him in tournaments in Europe and Australia/Asia. Golf reporters in Houston probably didn't even know who she was.. :shrug: Apart from that, she is a regular now.. it's no news that she is around.

As for the rest.. :lol: I don't even know what to say.. :lol: Ana as the new Allester is simply a completely hilarious idea to me. And to be honest.. seriously.. once her ranking is so low she can't even get into main draws of 50K challengers, she won't be asked to do that much modelling or to promote anything..

Sor.ana
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:11 PM
What's going on ?
I just came back home and I haven't time to read all posts. Can someone explain me ?

-NAJ-
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Training in Houston, on golf courts
I’m currently training in Houston with my new coach Adam Scott. Things are going well: I am learning a lot from him, and I’m feeling more confident about my game. The timing of the Stuttgart tournament couldn’t be any better, considering that we have just started working together: it gives us the opportunity to try some things out in a serious setting
http://www.anaivanovic.com

:p

Curtos07
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:17 PM
http://www.anaivanovic.com

:p

:haha:

I believd it for a second. Actually went to her homepage and refreshed it a few times looking for a new idary entry. How sad is that? :lol:

Sor.ana
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:18 PM
:haha:

I believd it for a second. Actually went to her homepage and refreshed it a few times looking for a new idary entry. How sad is that? :lol:

I did the same...

Curtos07
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:26 PM
I'm curious what will Holzman and Gavin say once Ana is out of the top 100. Because the "out of the top 50" thing spurred some pretty defensive interviews... :lol: Holzman even said "Ana is completely focused on getting back. She practices hard and then when she looks at rankings she is shocked". :rolleyes: She really shouldn't be shocked.. it's only a natural result..

I wouldn't be disappointed or upset with all this if Ana could just be honest.. own it up.. but well.. she will never do that.. I wish I could just get over her.. but such waste of talent pisses me off, even more so with her saying she is doing everything she can to get back.. :bs: She is not.. she is just running from her problems.. :o Will she ever ever realize how wrong she is? I don't think so.. if she did, then that would be the day things could finally turn around.

You know what I think of her management. They're tools. I don't think they will ever wake up and realize that practice and match play are two different animals. I still get a kick out of Gavin making such a big deal about Ana beating a top 5 player (Kuznetsova) during a practice match at IW. It's practice!!! Not a game, not game, as another AI would say. :lol: I don't care if she double bageled Serena Williams in practice, it makes no difference. They been saying how great she is in practice over a year now but the results continue to get worse. I don't doubt that she plays well in practice, but it doesn't translate to success in real matches. In the end, it of course comes down to Ana who makes the ultimate decisions, but the people around her are not a good influence. She needs tennis people, not marketing people. Her management in my opinion are more concerned about selling her then making her a better tennis player. Masha's team knows how to do both at the same time. Wish Ana had people like that.

gloria7
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:31 PM
As for the rest.. I don't even know what to say.. Ana as the new Allester is simply a completely hilarious idea to me. And to be honest.. seriously.. once her ranking is so low she can't even get into main draws of 50K challengers, she won't be asked to do that much modelling or to promote anything..

"I don`t always know what i`m talking about,but i`m never wrong".
Mohammad Ali

spiritedenergy
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Yeah Luca.. that she is in love it's pretty obvious.. that she lost her mind too.. and of course, her priorities are nowhere near a tennis court. I mean.. look at Clijsters.. with her husband and baby daughter.. winning Miami and going straight to Marbella to play on clay. The day after JJ lost her match in Miami I read she wrote on facebook she was already in Bolletieri's practicing on green clay for Charleston.. And these are people who could have taken a week off to rest, they are playing well and have done some winning recently. No.. totally professional, practicing and focused. Ana on the other hand, can't win if her life depended on it.. has been playing abysmal tennis.. and what does she do in the first opportunity? Take a week off to WAG. She might even have been carrying that huge purse of hers on her injured shoulder like in Australia last year.. :o wouldn't surprise me.. :shrug:

You know.. it's just disappointing.. I mean.. since she is this much in love, she could follow on Adam's example at least.. He doesn't leave his practice sessions to watch her play tennis.. :o He played well last week.. :shrug::tape: But nooo.. she just has to follow him everywhere. :o

You mention Verdasco.. while I do agree Ana has her head on men and not on tennis, at least back in late 2008 she was trying to play.. She added Moscow, played doubles.. she was trying.. and got there her MM title.. the last one she has won.. :sobbing:

Maybe we should even look at his schedule to see when she will lose her matches.. I mean.. just crossed my mind.. maybe deep down in her subconcious she doesn't really want to win and have to play another match, because that would prevent her from taking a week off and go WAGing.. :o:tape:

I was just reading the off season thread.. I said something that I keep thinking is spot on. When Ana started to WAG left and right I said it really didn't matter how much she practiced, it would produce no effect other then keeping her concience cool since she would be telling herself she was trying. Because truth is, she is not serious about this, she is not focused, she doesn't have her head, heart and soul into tennis. She has her head, heart and soul into something else.. and while she keeps things that way, doesn't matter if she has a great coach or if he makes her practice... she won't have that edge that separates a challenger player to someone in the top 20. It's the will to win that makes a great player.. and Ana has absolutely none of that at the moment.

I have to say I hate to have been so right.. ugh.. Reading back.. people were telling me stuff left and right.. that we should wait... this and that.. blablabla.. Happened just as I feared.. :sobbing: Hate this!

I think you summarized it well, it's a little edge between challenger players and top players, it probably mainly comes down to dedication and focus. When she says she obsesses too much about tennis etc., what I get is that she doesn't want to be a top player because that requires that level of "obsession" and dedication.
The good thing is that she can change that quickly, she is still doing the basic works and practices at least while for example vaidisova wasn't even practicing. The bad thing is that the more time she is in this level, the more it will take for her to go to the top when/if she decides to do it.

-NAJ-
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:51 PM
:haha:

I believd it for a second. Actually went to her homepage and refreshed it a few times looking for a new idary entry. How sad is that? :lol:




I did the same...

:banana:

spiritedenergy
Apr 6th, 2010, 04:52 PM
You know what I think of her management. They're tools. I don't think they will ever wake up and realize that practice and match play are two different animals. I still get a kick out of Gavin making such a big deal about Ana beating a top 5 player (Kuznetsova) during a practice match at IW. It's practice!!! Not a game, not game, as another AI would say. :lol: I don't care if she double bageled Serena Williams in practice, it makes no difference. They been saying how great she is in practice over a year now but the results continue to get worse. I don't doubt that she plays well in practice, but it doesn't translate to success in real matches. In the end, it of course comes down to Ana who makes the ultimate decisions, but the people around her are not a good influence. She needs tennis people, not marketing people. Her management in my opinion are more concerned about selling her then making her a better tennis player. Masha's team knows how to do both at the same time. Wish Ana had people like that.

totally agree, her management has priorities completely skewed, i hope they will stop ask ana or contracts and endorsements if she falls lower

gloria7
Apr 6th, 2010, 05:47 PM
I agree with Curtis,Ana has marketing people around her,but she will never fire Holzman-she is just to grateful.Her mother can`t help her either,quiting or playing tennis was always Ana`s decision.Last year,when she lost to Bondarenko or Safarova,Dragana came to locker room and saw Ana crying."Why are you crying?Tennis should make you happy.What is the point of playing if you feel so miserable?"And,then again,when Ana did her first topless photos for SI (South African edition) she was just 16 years old.Dragana allowed that,she was there with Ana,watcing her under age,half-naked daughter posing.Did that help Ana`s career? Gavin said:"I wouldn`t allow Ana to do anything what she find uncomfortable",and yet,he was there,standing over her,watcing her,when she was posing for SI.
And about sports fashion...things have changed.Adidas would want someone who is actually performing in order to help sell its products.Message is-if you wear or use our clothes-then you will be performing at an optimum level.But who would buy Henin`s skirt if you can wear Ana`s dress...and she`s looking good while promoting the clothes.

Curtos07
Apr 6th, 2010, 10:19 PM
Adam Scott is now on twitter. He just joined. Maybe he can convince Ana to join too. :lol:

http://twitter.com/ascott167

bruce goose
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:08 AM
Wow!A lot of good posts and good points,but I'm a little worn out from the long drive back home to Mexico after a family mega-crisis...so let me TRY to be brief:angel:

Though we,as fans,have no right or power to choreograph Ana's personal life,it's sad that she's missing out on REAL love while being stuck with the manure-smelling counterfeit she has now.Just look at the HUGE contrast between Clijsters and Ana....One is coping well with married life AND motherhood with the support of a man who truly loves her...the other has a slimy playboy bf who manipulates her into flushing her God-given talent down the toilet in order to give his fragile ego a boost as his trophy gf.I've never met a woman who experienced true love while having her confidence and self-esteem at almost rock bottom,and Ana doesn't seem to break this rule,either.She reminds me SOOO much of an alcoholic who gets his/her quick escapist fix,is 'happy' for an instant...and then sinks into a pit once the buzz wears off:sad:

....Back to the drug issue for a sec,do you suppose that Hingis started powdering her nose before or after Stepanek?And now that Nicole doesn't get tested in her sad retirement,do you suppose she's 'followed in Hingis' footsteps'.Given the A.A.T.'s close connection with Hollywood AND the Aussie surfing scene,it wouldn't surprise me anymore to discover that Ana tested positive for coke.In fact,that might be an added incentive for her to skip certain tournaments,and lessen the likelihood of testing,while she lets the drug flush out of her system and avoids an embarrassing 1-year ban.I was unfair to Anna K. when I referred to the A.A.T. as the male Kournikova of golf.Anna won a couple ITF tourneys back in 1996 and even made the semis of a Slam---plus won some Slam Doubles titles.On the contrary,the douchebag is pretty much useless outside of his occasional ITF 5K-caliber golf wins.For HIM,against the Big Boys,a successful Masters would mean that he didn't accidentally jam his putter halfway up his rectum:lol:Good luck with THAT,Adam Sucks(he just changed his name:p)One day,you'll challenge John Lloyd as biggest loser-parasite companion of a WTA great:worship:

Right now,I'm holding out hope in Heinz's integrity;when Ana fired Kardon,virtually everyone looked to HIM as the source of the problem.If Heinz is as candid about Ana as he was with Dokic,then our sweetie will face potential humiliation if Heinz comes out and says that Ana simply gave up.NO ONE will believe her excuses if she fires Heinz b/c he challenged her commitment.Many haters have resorted to laughing at Ana since she no longer poses a 'threat' to them;how terrible it would be if Ana missed out on her goals of helping people due to her losing all credibility as an athlete:sad:.Perhaps Ana will contemplate the ramifications if Heinz DOES throw down the challenge mentioned above.On occasion,a major event will cause an alcoholic to sober up and take control;let's pray that Ana can receive a similar impactful wake-up call....Such talent wasn't meant to be wasted(sigh)

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Just found this on belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7638/belgianb.png

This is the text:

Dubbelt Clijsters met Ivanovic in Stuttgart?

Mogelijk gaat Kim Clijsters in Stuttgart (24 april tot 2 mei) dubbelen met Ana Ivanovic. ‘Ze heeft het me gevraagd’, aldus Kim. ‘Ik moet het nog bekijken. Ik weet ook nog niet of ik in Marbella ga dubbelen met Kirsten Flipkens, want de dingen waaraan ik wil schaven zijn moeilijk te oefenen in dubbelspel.’ (WAW)

Google translation:

Clijsters doubles with Ivanovic in Stuttgart?

Kim Clijsters is possible in Stuttgart (April 24 to May 2) doubles with Ana Ivanovic. "She asked me," said Kim. "I still watch. I know not whether I go in Marbella doubles with Kirsten Flipkens, because the things I want to polish its hard to practice in doubles. "(WAW)

So Ana asked Kim.. but she is still thinking about it..

In related news, Henin has just commited to Stuttgart. Amazing field for the tournament... which sucks for Ana.. with her WAGing ways and lack of match play, she doesn't have much of a chance against anyone on the entry list. :help:

gaviotabr
Apr 7th, 2010, 01:25 PM
I think you summarized it well, it's a little edge between challenger players and top players, it probably mainly comes down to dedication and focus. When she says she obsesses too much about tennis etc., what I get is that she doesn't want to be a top player because that requires that level of "obsession" and dedication.
The good thing is that she can change that quickly, she is still doing the basic works and practices at least while for example vaidisova wasn't even practicing. The bad thing is that the more time she is in this level, the more it will take for her to go to the top when/if she decides to do it.

It's a lot harder to fix the head when it's screwed like Ana's then to fix something specific in the game. This is going on for 2 years already... and she has let it go so far that her whole game is shattered. She has completely neglected it.. I mean.. we look at her, and her footwork sucks, her forehand sucks, her serve sucks, her backhand sucks, she is out of form... And she will only be able to improve any of it when she manages to get her head right back into tennis, because right now she can practice 24/7 (which she is obviously not doing, since she is going WAGing left and right) that without focus it will lead to nothing.. so looooong loooooong way.. As you say, the longer it takes the harder it is.

And I often have the feeling that Ana did obssess with tennis in an unhealthy way when she had the thumb injury... but she didn't deal with it with maturity.. instead she got a huge trauma.. so much that now she pushes tennis away.. She needed to recommit and be 100% focused.. but she sees that as an obssession, which has a hugely negative conotation in her head, even though in reality it's a good thing for a professional athlete. She is scared to death to get obssessed as she was during the thumb injury, and can't seem to think there is a middle solution.. she just pushes tennis away and tries to fill her life of anything non-tennis. And that kills her as a top player.. kills any edge she might have had in the past. Ana is too stubborn and has no good guidance. No wonder she is this lost and has flushed her career down the toilet.

The 2nd Law
Apr 7th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Oh Izzy, your ability to find information is incredible :worship: :hearts:


It's looking like our beloved Serb won't even win a round in Stuttgart :tape:

spiritedenergy
Apr 7th, 2010, 03:43 PM
It's a lot harder to fix the head when it's screwed like Ana's then to fix something specific in the game. This is going on for 2 years already... and she has let it go so far that her whole game is shattered. She has completely neglected it.. I mean.. we look at her, and her footwork sucks, her forehand sucks, her serve sucks, her backhand sucks, she is out of form... And she will only be able to improve any of it when she manages to get her head right back into tennis, because right now she can practice 24/7 (which she is obviously not doing, since she is going WAGing left and right) that without focus it will lead to nothing.. so looooong loooooong way.. As you say, the longer it takes the harder it is.

And I often have the feeling that Ana did obssess with tennis in an unhealthy way when she had the thumb injury... but she didn't deal with it with maturity.. instead she got a huge trauma.. so much that now she pushes tennis away.. She needed to recommit and be 100% focused.. but she sees that as an obssession, which has a hugely negative conotation in her head, even though in reality it's a good thing for a professional athlete. She is scared to death to get obssessed as she was during the thumb injury, and can't seem to think there is a middle solution.. she just pushes tennis away and tries to fill her life of anything non-tennis. And that kills her as a top player.. kills any edge she might have had in the past. Ana is too stubborn and has no good guidance. No wonder she is this lost and has flushed her career down the toilet.

:lol: you should be a writer, your posts are always so dramatic:p

But yes that's basically it, i agree. She is still trying to find a balance between unhealthy obsession (i.e. when she's injured and can't play can't take her mind of tennis) and neglect. I hope she will...

bruce goose
Apr 7th, 2010, 05:25 PM
And I often have the feeling that Ana did obssess with tennis in an unhealthy way when she had the thumb injury... but she didn't deal with it with maturity.. instead she got a huge trauma.. so much that now she pushes tennis away.. She needed to recommit and be 100% focused.. but she sees that as an obssession, which has a hugely negative conotation in her head, even though in reality it's a good thing for a professional athlete. She is scared to death to get obssessed as she was during the thumb injury, and can't seem to think there is a........"middle solution"...........she just pushes tennis away and tries to fill her life of anything non-tennis. And that kills her as a top player.. kills any edge she might have had in the past. Ana is too stubborn and has no good guidance. No wonder she is this lost and has flushed her career down the toilet.The term is "middle GROUND",Izzy,but I agree with what you've posted here.Compulsive,immature people have a hard time figuring out subtle,well-reasoned solutions;they usually either gravitate to one extreme or the other.Can we ALSO agree that Ana learned NOTHING about problem-solving during her youth...and that she uses her poorly-controlled,base emotions to guide her through conflicts.

You said that Ana's modeling opportunities would dry up if her career became a complete joke;could this also happen with Ana's goals in re helping children if she became little more than a punchline???

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:12 PM
Ana's gonna lose 1st round in every tournament she enters unless she stops her moronic WAGging, starts practising and enters some smaller events!:rolleyes:

She's as far from being overtrained as anyone can be!:( If she ever comes with the "scared of getting injured" excuse again...:mad: Actually, I don't wanna hear any of her many excuses anymore. I'm sick of it. It's always the same old sh!t.
It's delusional, phoney, dishonest and mind-numbingly pathetic!

Let's hope she finds a doubles partner and doesn't scratch the idea incase Kim won't play with her! This has probably been the only decent idea Ana and her team had in quite some time!:lol:

And when I say I want her to play doubles, I don't mean her hopping in bed with Adam!:o

[/rant]

bruce goose
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:20 PM
Ana's gonna lose 1st round in every tournament she enters unless she stops her moronic WAGging, starts practising and enters some smaller events!:rolleyes:

She's as far from being overtrained as anyone can be!:( If she ever comes with the "scared of getting injured" excuse again...:mad: Actually, I don't wanna hear any of her many excuses anymore. I'm sick of it. It's always the same old sh!t.
It's delusional, phoney, dishonest and mind-numbingly pathetic!

Let's hope she finds a doubles partner and doesn't scratch the idea incase Kim won't play with her! This has probably been the only decent idea Ana and her team had in quite some time!:lol:

And when I say I want her to play doubles, I don't mean her hopping in bed with Adam!:o

[/rant]Don't give Ana any subtle ideas,Maja;she MIGHT think of them as 'sweet destiny':lol:

Cp6uja
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Ana has talent, skills and weapons to be (again) one of dominant players on WTA tour, but I don't think it's good idea to push her too much for much better results before she is mentally ready to give at least 75% of her abilities. I understand why people here already lose patience and even hope (her epic slump now is longer than her career TOP10 period :tape:), but too much disappointments at this point will be worst case scenario for Ana chances to give up. Best thing about Ana for me right now IMO is fact that she still have own perception about herself "I'm professional tennis player", and that is different if we compare her case with for example Vaidisova free-fall or 2004-2007 Dokic case which both since one point so obviously really don't care about tennis. Ana family, management, level of her coaches, sponsors, schedule...etc... is same, or almost same like she was GS champion and WTA#1, so only who is really changed is Ana herself :shrug: So no need to blame anybody else for this disaster, including A.Scott (or Verdasco in past).

Actually by my point of view, as fans we should be way more happy than irritated if Ana is really so happy in her (off-court) private life like she try to present :shrug: When I following Monica Seles it's so frustrating to see in middle of 90's how she must handle such big problems on and off courts. After that Hamburg incident and long pause after, Monica is never able to be even close mentally strong and focused on court like before that, and than, together with that she must to face with her father cancer problems (he died in 1998), which is most important person in her professional career (and private life also). So at least in Ana case all "off-court" things seems almost perfect (source: Ana) and this current professional disaster not damage too much even her $$$ per year, which is really rare case in sport.

So please let's be more positive, patient, exciting and optimistic about Ana :p
If even her biggest fans lose all hopes and without any expectations even now before start of her favorite claycourt season... I really hope that Ana not reading all this posts. If she not make comeback and big improvement on clay, it will be real disaster. I don't give her support to stay now in USA instead to prepare herself for Europian red clay season, but on other hand we must admit that her claycourt schedule is not that bad at all and she will works with one of elite WTA coaches. So let's see what will happen... and than to cry if she give us again reasons. :shrug:



@ VirginMary :wavey:
please change this thread title in something different (for example Clay is Ana Ivanovic best friend: Time to make it happen!) because definition of Ana Ivanovic just like "sucky server" is wrong, even disrespectful, and which is worst, generate much more depressing posts here than we needs right now.

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:49 PM
@ VirginMary :wavey:
please change this thread title in something different (for example Clay is Ana Ivanovic best friend: Time to make it happen!) because definition of Ana Ivanovic just like "sucky server" is wrong, even disrespectful, and which is worst, generate much more depressing posts here than we needs right now.

I meant it in an ironic/sarcastic way and would like to keep it that way.:shrug: If Ana gives us something to cheer about I will gladly change the title to something more positive.:lol:

Cp6uja
Apr 7th, 2010, 06:56 PM
I meant it in an ironic/sarcastic way and would like to keep it that way.:shrug: If Ana gives us something to cheer about I will gladly change the title to something more positive.:lol:Just try to find some better solution about her nickname than "sucky server" :shrug:

bruce goose
Apr 7th, 2010, 07:18 PM
I meant it in an ironic/sarcastic way and would like to keep it that way.:shrug: If Ana gives us something to cheer about I will gladly change the title to something more positive.:lol:^^It's not meant as a slap at Ana;it's just a cold hard dose of reality.Cb6uja is the last person on the planet who thinks that Ana is actually happy inside herself:lol:...or that the Amateur Golfer Douchebag is a good influence on her....I can't fault Cb6uja for his optimism and high hopes for Ana;it's just that I can't remember any of his optimistic predictions ever coming true.On a very basic level,ANYone who loved Ana would want to see her succeed with her tennis dreams;however,a selfish piece of monkey crap would invite her to skip tournaments,in favor of swishy golf,when she SHOULD be training.As our Jelena has postulated,though:Why should men--especially a lying,s--tbag playboy--respect Ana when she doesn't respect herSELF??I hope she realizes this before she makes her next awful choice of companions;as soon as the A.A.T. is gone,Ana will have a bullseye on her back where a load of playboy celebrities will rehearse their contrived come-on lines for an easy seduction of their new trophy gf....May God help us---but may He mainly help ANA

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 7th, 2010, 07:24 PM
Just try to find some better solution about her nickname than "sucky server" :shrug:

Well OK, let's collect some suggestions and the best one wins.:shrug::D

Only condition: I love Irony & Alliterations!;)

MathsGenius
Apr 7th, 2010, 07:35 PM
I really hope that Ana not reading all this posts.
Yeah sure, she doesn't even train as much as she should, but she reads posts about dumping her boyfriend, who is now apparently the most important person in her life. She probably wouldn't spend hours and hours walking around golf courses if he doesn't mean much to her. It's really immature behavior from her, she can't win two matches in a row for a past 4 months and instead of fully concentrating on tennis she's rather watching golf and bf who also socks so that should give her motivation. :rolleyes:

gloria7
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Well...you have to understand Eastern European mentality:we love and hate with the same passion,we would do anything for love.We can`t eat,breathe,sleep or think while in love.Serbs are capable to create art of suffering...as many of you i supose.I know you won`t agree with me,but i think that she just fell apart after that "love triangle"story.She knows the truth.There is 142654 comments,news and articles about #10 most wanted bachelor in the world and Kate,sex addict,Hudson.And we believe that ONE guy who saw her in Houston?!She didn`t add any other tournament in her shedule,but maybe she can`t play.She wants,but she just can`t.Did you ever think about that?Maybe that`s why she withdraw(except poor form)from Fed Cup?Maybe she can`t face the press and answer any question about her private life.I hope i won`t see black nailpolish,big circles under her eyes and acne on her face on monday.

spiritedenergy
Apr 7th, 2010, 08:57 PM
Well...you have to understand Eastern European mentality:we love and hate with the same passion,we would do anything for love.We can`t eat,breathe,sleep or think while in love.Serbs are capable to create art of suffering...as many of you i supose.I know you won`t agree with me,but i think that she just fell apart after that "love triangle"story.She knows the truth.There is 142654 comments,news and articles about #10 most wanted bachelor in the world and Kate,sex addict,Hudson.And we believe that ONE guy who saw her in Houston?!She didn`t add any other tournament in her shedule,but maybe she can`t play.She wants,but she just can`t.Did you ever think about that?Maybe that`s why she withdraw(except poor form)from Fed Cup?Maybe she can`t face the press and answer any question about her private life.I hope i won`t see black nailpolish,big circles under her eyes and acne on her face on monday.

sorry but :happy:

I doubt that's what's happening, also because this recent love "crisis" even if true started like a few weeks ago? She was following him and stopped playing much before that

gloria7
Apr 7th, 2010, 09:27 PM
Oh,i`m so sorry!I deeply apologise to all of you "tennis experts".

jelenacg
Apr 7th, 2010, 09:58 PM
Yes we believe that one guy who saw her :rolleyes: bc that`s the only thing she has being doing in past year ,go waging when she should be practicing :worship:

And it`s funny and naive at least that you think she withdraws bc she doesn`t want to answer questions about her private life .


And when I say I want her to play doubles, I don't mean her hopping in bed with Adam!:o


:haha: Brilliant :haha:
I like `sucky server` :lol: i would also add `bad ball tossic `:lol:

@Cp6uja,you and Ana should be best friends ,so delusional both :hearts::worship:

MathsGenius
Apr 7th, 2010, 11:34 PM
And when I say I want her to play doubles, I don't mean her hopping in bed with Adam!
Why do I have a feeling that that 'double' is currently way more exiting for her then anything else. :lol: And I think that's one of a mistakes of her parents. They should allow her 'hanging around' with boys earlier and not at the age when she should be completely grown up and mature person. She really doesn't look like enough mature for her age... or she simply leaves the wrong impression.

The 2nd Law
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:06 AM
Doubles with Clijsters would be AMAZE. They might even win a match!

Loungy
Apr 8th, 2010, 07:52 AM
Doubles with Clijsters would be AMAZE. They might even win a match!
Opposite team would have clear plan: hit at Ana. :dance:

So please let's be more positive, patient, exciting and optimistic about Ana :p
If even her biggest fans lose all hopes and without any expectations even now before start of her favorite claycourt season... I really hope that Ana not reading all this posts. If she not make comeback and big improvement on clay, it will be real disaster. I don't give her support to stay now in USA instead to prepare herself for Europian red clay season, but on other hand we must admit that her claycourt schedule is not that bad at all and she will works with one of elite WTA coaches. So let's see what will happen... and than to cry if she give us again reasons. :shrug:
Ana doesn't seen to be taking the European clay season half as seriously as you are. Fans aren't getting their hopes up and being positive because it hurts when expectations aren't met.

To be quite honest, if Ana reads this or any other message board devoted to her, she should thank her lucky stars she still has fans who are this invested, even if they're (understandably) pessimistic and dispirited.

Mihaela
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:32 PM
Does she seek new boyfriend? ;)

“I don’t like hair that is too neat. I prefer it to be a little bit messy. I like men to take care of themselves and to wear a nice aftershave, something that I’ll remember. I also like sharp suits but prefer a guy to be dressed casually – and I don’t mean singlets – in jeans and a long-sleeved, collared shirt.”

http://www.anaivanovic.com/pressandinterviews/fhm-collections-feature

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:37 PM
Opposite team would have clear plan: hit at Ana. :dance:


Ana doesn't seen to be taking the European clay season half as seriously as you are. Fans aren't getting their hopes up and being positive because it hurts when expectations aren't met.

To be quite honest, if Ana reads this or any other message board devoted to her, she should thank her lucky stars she still has fans who are this invested, even if they're (understandably) pessimistic and dispirited.

Spot on.

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:39 PM
Does she seek new boyfriend? ;)



http://www.anaivanovic.com/pressandinterviews/fhm-collections-feature

Isn't she describing Adam? Messy hair.. Shaved.. Collared shirts..

We all know what goes through Ana's head 24/7 and it doesn't involve yellow fuzzy balls.. :rolleyes:

jelenacg
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:49 PM
And to make things worse some channel is broadcasting Marbella tournament here :rolleyes::mad:
Kim is playing right now,only few people watching

How much i hate that ask Ana section and top 5 or something http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/jelenacg/16k3pzb-1.gif
The worse she plays the more stupidity we get from her web :tape:

Mihaela
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Isn't she describing Adam? Messy hair.. Shaved.. Collared shirts..

We all know what goes through Ana's head 24/7 and it doesn't involve yellow fuzzy balls..

Ofc, she is describing Adam.

Did you read this? http://z8.invisionfree.com/Adam_Scott/index.php?showtopic=2428

Last post...it was Ana definately.

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 02:59 PM
Ofc, she is describing Adam.

Did you read this? http://z8.invisionfree.com/Adam_Scott/index.php?showtopic=2428

Last post...it was Ana definately.

Yes, I read it.. I was always sure it was Ana. The fact that there are no pics mean nothing.. Ana is not known in the US, much less among golf people. Heck.. there are barely any pics of Adam playing... I doubt people would bother to take pics of her. But it was definitely her there.. WAGing.. her favorite sport now. :o:rolleyes:

Then people say "if she doesn't have a good clay season, we can get desperate..".. With the way she is taking this clay season.. everybody practicing and preparing on clay and Ana going WAGing.. we can't expect anything but complete disaster.

What I actually find funny is that Adam never goes to Ana's matches.. he was in Miami when she was playing, but he did not go watch her.. but she follows him everywhere.. 5 hours walking each day on a golf course. And then she says she is surprised she doesn't get results.. :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:01 PM
And to make things worse some channel is broadcasting Marbella tournament here :rolleyes::mad:
Kim is playing right now,only few people watching

How much i hate that ask Ana section and top 5 or something http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm23/jelenacg/16k3pzb-1.gif
The worse she plays the more stupidity we get from her web :tape:

Hey Jelena!

Yeah.. her web is more stupid by the day... but what to expect really? Her managers have proven time and again they don't give a damn about Ana's TENNIS career.. as long as they can promote her as a sex symbol and get her in FHM, they couldn't care less what she does on the court. :o

And the less she plays, the less tennis related news they have.. so they just fill the web with Ana's modelling stuff.. and foolish tidbits.. :rolleyes:

jelenacg
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Hey Jelena!

Yeah.. her web is more stupid by the day... but what to expect really? Her managers have proven time and again they don't give a damn about Ana's TENNIS career.. as long as they can promote her as a sex symbol and get her in FHM, they couldn't care less what she does on the court. :o

And the less she plays, the less tennis related news they have.. so they just fill the web with Ana's modelling stuff.. and foolish tidbits.. :rolleyes:

Yes i know but still...it`s so stupid :tape:
FHM Collections feature :rolleyes: :o

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Yes i know but still...it`s so stupid :tape:
FHM Collections feature :rolleyes: :o

Yes.. ugh.. :rolleyes::o

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:42 PM
I was just watching a bit of Kim's match.. this is why she doesn't like clay.. she is not a smooth mover on it. Kim's game is based on her being such a great mover, and being on the ball most of the times. On clay, she loses the edge on movement, because it's not natural to her.

jelenacg
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:48 PM
I was just watching a bit of Kim's match.. this is why she doesn't like clay.. she is not a smooth mover on it. Kim's game is based on her being such a great mover, and being on the ball most of the times. On clay, she loses the edge on movement, because it's not natural to her.


It also doesn`t help that her opponent is Spanish girl ,left handed and moves well on clay :lol:
Can you imagine Ana with her elephant movement on clay :o

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 03:51 PM
It also doesn`t help that her opponent is Spanish girl ,left handed and moves well on clay :lol:
Can you imagine Ana with her elephant movement on clay :o

Actually.. Ana moves a lot better on clay than on any other surface. I actually expect her to have better movement on clay than what she has showed in the last couple of months, even being out of form.. Which is not saying much, because her movement has been absolutely atrocious.

Clijsters is also a fast paced person.. she likes things fast fast fast.. Clay is so slow, it just doesn't suit her. She is obviously a much better player than the spanish girl though.. so lets see if she can still pull it out.

jelenacg
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:00 PM
Actually.. Ana moves a lot better on clay than on any other surface. I actually expect her to have better movement on clay than what she has showed in the last couple of months, even being out of form.. Which is not saying much, because her movement has been absolutely atrocious.

Clijsters is also a fast paced person.. she likes things fast fast fast.. Clay is so slow, it just doesn't suit her. She is obviously a much better player than the spanish girl though.. so lets see if she can still pull it out.

I know she moves better on clay than on any other surface but she also has developed very lazy footwork and that won`t help her during clay season :o

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:04 PM
I know she moves better on clay than on any other surface but she also has developed very lazy footwork and that won`t help her during clay season :o

Yes... yes.. with the way things have been going, nothing is going to help her during clay season.. Maybe the person who said she will only play 5 matches until Wimbledon will get it right. :o

jelenacg
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:15 PM
Yes... yes.. with the way things have been going, nothing is going to help her during clay season.. Maybe the person who said she will only play 5 matches until Wimbledon will get it right. :o

With her form and ranking i don`t think she will play more than 5 matches until Wimbledon :o
But all this walking on golf courses will help her improve her movement on grass ...so i have high expectation for Wimbledon :happy: :lol:

bruce goose
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:16 PM
And I think that's one of a mistakes of her parents. They should allow her 'hanging around' with boys earlier and not at the age when she should be completely grown up and mature person. She really doesn't look like enough mature for her age... or she simply leaves the wrong impression.You're gonna make some enemies for encouraging me on this point:lol:.I don't know what would've happened if Ana had dated more in her adolescence,but she and Nicole both postponed their adolescent period for tennis....and they're living it out right now.Gals who are,technically,in their 20s but have the maturity level of someone almost ten years younger.

As for her parents,I laughed when Izzy told me that Ana,in her blog,credited her parents with 'teaching her a lot':rolleyes:.REALLY,Ana?They taught you something useful??Why don't you give us an example of one of these amazing lessons you supposedly learned.What WAS it?How to run away from your problems and hope they disappear magically??Or was it how to deal with a conflict by pretending that it doesn't exist??Although I don't wish anything bad upon him,Ana's little brother doesn't have a very bright future,either,if mom and dad taught HIM the same fairy-tale problem-solving skills that they taught Ana:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

jelenacg
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:25 PM
You're gonna make some enemies for encouraging me on this point:lol:.I don't know what would've happened if Ana had dated more in her adolescence,but she and Nicole both postponed their adolescent period for tennis....and they're living it out right now.Gals who are,technically,in their 20s but have the maturity level of someone almost ten years younger.

As for her parents,I laughed when Izzy told me that Ana,in her blog,credited her parents with 'teaching her a lot':rolleyes:.REALLY,Ana?They taught you something useful??Why don't you give us an example of one of these amazing lessons you supposedly learned.What WAS it?How to run away from your problems and hope they disappear magically??Or was it how to deal with a conflict by pretending that it doesn't exist??Although I don't wish anything bad upon him,Ana's little brother doesn't have a very bright future,either,if mom and dad taught HIM the same fairy-tale problem-solving skills that they taught Ana:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

What about kids are a reflection of their parents ? :p
You can`t expect miracles :lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:26 PM
With her form and ranking i don`t think she will play more than 5 matches until Wimbledon :o
But all this walking on golf courses will help her improve her movement on grass ...so i have high expectation for Wimbledon :happy: :lol:

:spit:

gaviotabr
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:45 PM
And Kim lost.. :lol:

You know.. she should play doubles with Ana.. :lol::spit:

jelenacg
Apr 8th, 2010, 04:52 PM
:lol:
When they lose we can always blame Kim ...:lol:

bruce goose
Apr 8th, 2010, 05:28 PM
What about kids are a reflection of their parents ? :p
You can`t expect miracles :lol:You might have a point with that first statement(sigh);however,I suspect that mom and dad are like a lot of parents who listen to too much crap modernist psychology.They have good intentions and love Ana dearly,but they probably tried too hard to be her FRIEND with very little actual parenting going on.A parent can be a friend to a certain extent,but young people require leadership as they grow...they LOOK for it even though they're too proud or stubborn to admit that sometimes.It's pretty obvious that Ana's folks didn't offer her much direction;they're no Serbian version of Richard Williams.

Izzy makes a good point on how the A.A.T. doesn't miss golf events to watch Ana....Of course,he'll still suck and finish near the bottom whenever he faces major competition at a big tournament,but at least he shows up(with his mirror and 'nose powder' in tow;)).He only attends the bare minimum of Ana's events so that folks won't realize what a phony P.O.S. he is,yet he doesn't mind encouraging Ana to flush HER talent down the toilet because she'll be even MORE psychologically dependent on him for self-esteem if she throws her tennis career away.

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 8th, 2010, 05:52 PM
:lol:
When they lose we can always blame Kim ...:lol:

I know Ana will...:D

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Apr 8th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Hey Jelena!

Yeah.. her web is more stupid by the day... but what to expect really? Her managers have proven time and again they don't give a damn about Ana's TENNIS career.. as long as they can promote her as a sex symbol and get her in FHM, they couldn't care less what she does on the court. :o

And the less she plays, the less tennis related news they have.. so they just fill the web with Ana's modelling stuff.. and foolish tidbits.. :rolleyes:

But of course they have the full believe she gets back to the top.
Sure, what else can they say. :o

Sor.ana
Apr 8th, 2010, 07:13 PM
If only she could win at least two matches in a row ! But I don't think it's gonna happen in Stutt ; but when we look at the entry list :tape:

Curtos07
Apr 9th, 2010, 12:47 AM
So, no Ana sightings today. I watched most of Adam's back nine and looked really close to the galleries and didn't see her. That doesn't mean she wasn't there, but no signs yet. Fingers crossed she decided to go to Europe instead and practice.

BTW, Adam played very well. Shot a score of 69 (-3), 3 shots off the lead.

bruce goose
Apr 9th, 2010, 01:10 AM
BTW, Adam played very well. Shot a score of 69 (-3), 3 shots off the lead.Reminds me of how Pironkova got lucky and beat Venus Williams once:lol:.He's a lowlife loser,and he'll come back to reality VERY soon...and Ana will be a whole lot healthier when she finally gets that tumor removed;)

EDIT:Even though I don't like golf and don't consider it a sport(except in the loosest sense of the word),I went to Yahoo to see if they mentioned Ana or her Tumor.Even though he was only one shot behind Tiger Woods when play ended,the long article made absolutely NO mention of the A.A.T.----THAT shows you how little the golf press respects him,how low his chances are of winning the Masters....Sort of like when someone of Camille Pin's talent level flukes her way into the 3rd Round of a Slam;her odds of taking the trophy are so microscopically small that they can't even be charted...so she gets ignored while the press focuses on LEGIT contenders

gaviotabr
Apr 9th, 2010, 03:45 AM
So, no Ana sightings today. I watched most of Adam's back nine and looked really close to the galleries and didn't see her. That doesn't mean she wasn't there, but no signs yet. Fingers crossed she decided to go to Europe instead and practice.

BTW, Adam played very well. Shot a score of 69 (-3), 3 shots off the lead.

I can't believe you wasted so much time watching golf Curtis! :lol: Ana won't be there.. I'm pretty sure of it. She likes to fool herself sometimes, trying to convince her concience she is "trying".. and even for her standards, going to Augusta would be too much.. even more so considering she has to be in Madrid monday morning.

It doesn't surprise me that Adam seems to be getting his game together lately.. he is doing the opposite of Ana, he never gave out or completely neglected his golf like she is doing to her tennis. Let's analyze this, starting out last year..

1 - Adam accepted to play at President's Cup, even coming off a disaster at The PGA Championships. He went one day with a +9 score. Still.. he didn't back down.. he kept going and was brave enough to go play, even though he knew he would be slapped by the press. Ana, on the other hand, went the opposite way and completely chickened out of Fed Cup. Let's be honest.. she is not going to play because she is scared as hell of being totally humilliated again. I have to say I was also terrified of Fed Cup before she withdrew, so I'm okay with this decision.. but truth is, the bravest thing to do was to go play looking for redemption.. being completely determined to win.

2 - Adam played a bunch of tournaments at the end of the year.. and even looking back earlier on, the worst he did, the more tournaments he would add.. He tried to play through the slump, and it's paying off now. Ana again ran away from her problems, finished the year in september (which she will probably do this year, again) and has barely played tennis in the past year and a half. Actions speak more than words, and she doesn't seem to WANT to play tennis matches. She is certainly not making any effort whatsoever to play more real matches. Without match play, nobody not named Serena Williams can do miracles and play well. A match is completely different than practice sessions.

3 - Adam almost never goes watch Ana's matches (though truth to be told, she almost doesn't have any of those nowadays). He was in Miami during the tournament, but never showed up to watch her. On his blog he said he was practicing hard with his coach. So there... he doesn't change a practice session to watch her, which is the right thing to do. His priority is his golf game.. Ana, on the other hand, has been WAGing all the time since they got together. I've lost count of the ammount of tournaments she has attended, most of the times missing out on practice sessions or possible tournaments because of it. Before someone comes out saying that WAGing doesn't mean she is not practicing, I say that walking around a golf course for 5 hours each day leaves no room for a decent practice, either for lack of time or because she would just be too tired to actually be able to play. Besides that.. does anyone really believe that she would spend 5 hours following him around only to go practice when she has the chance to actually be with him when he is not playing? It's obvious where her head is, and it has nothing to do with tennis courts and yellow fuzzy balls. She can say whatever she wants to fool herself and the media, but her actions speak loud and clear. This is neglecting her career.

I could go on and on.. They have had opposite attitudes towards their slumps.. and while Adam is improving, Ana is sinking deeper and deeper. And the deeper she goes, the harder it is.. This is not me defending Adam or anything.. I actually think he could have helped Ana, telling her things as they are, as it seems he can see it. And he hasn't.. He probably just enjoys her company and that's it. At the end of the day, the only one to be faultered is Ana herself, who has flushed her career down the toilet. I'm sure when she looks back someday, she will regret it big time.

bruce goose
Apr 9th, 2010, 03:56 AM
You're giving him too much credit,Izzy;he might be dedicated to golf but he still sucks at it...even after a better-than-average finish for him in Houston,the A.A.T. is still only ranked 46th on the PGA Tour...that would make him equal to Dushevina,ranking-wise...what a legend!!:lol::lol::lol:

Still,you're right that Ana deserves most of the blame...at least 90% of it,maybe more...nobody puts a gun to her head and forces her to slavishly follow a shallow douchebag who uses her for sexual gratification and to boost his own ego for his simple-headed male admirers.As our Jelena has implied,why should the A.A.T. respect Ana when she doesn't respect herSELF?.....

Let me add one thing to that.......Even if they're crazy,you can have almost a grudging respect for gang members who are willing to put themselves in the line of fire to stand up for their crew...yet it's almost impossible to respect a scumbag who preys on the weak because he can't do battle with the mighty.Pedophiles and people who abuse the elderly are the worst kind of these offenders;the Tumor is a less severe example of those cowards.He KNEW that Ana was mentally fragile before he ever met her,and that's one reason why he scoped her out instead of a stronger woman who could think more clearly for herself.It's sad to see Ana throwing it all away for such a lowlife loser.It would be my pleasure to sodomize him with his own putter if he ever wandered onto my property by accident....I'll bet he'd scream like a little girl(lol)

bruce goose
Apr 9th, 2010, 05:23 AM
I can't believe you wasted so much time watching golf Curtis! :lol: Ana won't be there.. I'm pretty sure of it. She likes to fool herself sometimes, trying to convince her concience she is "trying".. and even for her standards, going to Augusta would be too much.. even more so considering she has to be in Madrid monday morning.
A little reminder for those who have short memories:Back in January,the loser P.O.S. was quoted in the Aussie papers as saying that he'd do whatever it took to help Ana get her career back on track.If anyone questions this,then just go to the 'Ana's Articles' thread for the evidence on what a phony,lying mother f--ker this guy is....

In reference to Izzy's post above,(1).I tend to agree that Ana still has a tiny smidge of self-respect,and there's a faint voice inside her head that pleads with Ana that it's not worth throwing her career away for ANY man...let alone such a 4th-rate loser.

(2).Heinz may have placed a cap on the aimless WAGging...only so much allowed within a certain period.Ana must be smart enough to realize how bad she would look if she fired Heinz for the A.A.T.Unlike with Kardon,NO ONE would side with Ana if Heinz went public and told everyone that Ana had quit committing herself to tennis for her sleazy bf.If Graf's former coach revealed the truth in this manner,then there's absolutely nothing that Gavin Versi,his cronies,and Ana could do to convince anyone intelligent of the contrary.If Ana fired Heinz for the asinine reason above,then you really COULD pull out the bugle and play the funeral taps,signifying the death of Ana's career:eek:........I don't think this is gonna happen,and I sure as hell hope that it doesn't.I can't even measure what a joy it would be to see Ana reach,and SURPASS,her previous achievements

Curtos07
Apr 9th, 2010, 05:40 AM
I can't believe you wasted so much time watching golf Curtis! :lol:

:lol: Yeah, about 6 hours total. I am a casual fan of it anyways and was interested to see how Tiger did besides from seeing if Ana decided to bring her WAG show to Augusta.

I think you are spot on with pretty much the rest of what you said. Adam has shown more urgency to get his career back on track and the fact of the matter is, he has far more time to do so than Ana does who only has a 5-7 years, maybe shorter if she keeps this up. It's much easier for Adam do go ahead with this attitude Ana has that all will eventuallu be fine so why change the way I do things? He probably could afford it because a golf career is much longer than a tennis career. Case in point, F60 year old Tom Watson and 50 year old Freddie Couples are the leaders at the Masters after day one.

Originally I agreed with Ana's decision to not play Fed Cup, but I do so under the impression that she would likely add something to her schedule before hand. Now that it looks like she wont, then I don't find the logic in it. Like you said, she is running away because she is scared to lose. Bad attitude to have. Her management waited until after the Fed Cup decision to announce on her web she was playing Stuttgart just to make it look like she was doing what I wanted her to do, add tournaments, but they ain't fooling anyone. I know, I have been reluctant to say in recent weeks/months that Ana doesn't want to play, but it's becoming apparent that you guys are right with that assertion. Right now, I can't fine any other reason besides the shoulder and the more I think about that, their explanation doesn't quite hold water.

I don't know what it will take now for Ana to change the way she goes about things. I honestly believed that IW/Miami was what was going to do it, but it looks like I am wrong. Things aren't looking so bright at the moment, but deep down inside, the KAD in me will never give up hope. But this is getting more frustrating as time goes on.

gloria7
Apr 9th, 2010, 06:55 AM
1.What happened to Adam`s 'choice radar'?Oh,yeah,it was set to blondes for 12 years.Ana was never his first choice and no gentleman would use naive girl just because she was there,available and easy pray.As 29 year old man he should know better.And they described him as a perfect gentleman,shy guy,very conservative and private person.Did Kate hurt him so badly that he needed to take Ana as a remedy?
2.While talking about Kate, in serbian press you can read that she payed 20.000$for a seat next to Adam back in february,at some charity event.Both of them,Kate and Ana,are flat,with manly hands,big feet,narrow hips,no waist-they both have boyish figure.Are we sure he likes girls?
3.I have to admit that he spent a lot of his money and time to be with Ana last year.They have never been separeted longer than 2 weeks.Greg Norman had,at Presidents Cup,long conversation with him about relationships,long traveling from US to Europe,priorities and work etic.Aussie press was ready to blame Ana for his bad results,but thank God,he finally said to them to leave her alone and everything stopped when he won Sidney.That`s why i think that he won`t travel that much this year,and he won`t be playing any european tournament so why bother?He may visit his mother before Wimbledon but,in fact,he needs money ,and love boat isn`t so shiny and new anymore.
4.He is a businessman too,and acording to aussie press, he invested a lot of money(4.million $)in a property deal in Dubai with Sunland Group.On of the directors is up on corruption charge and project is off.He,apparently has lost 20 mil.$ in the deal and it has an impact on his game(not being in love with Ana).
5.He is back and he can play 20-30 more years.Ana?5,maybe 6 if she stays injury free.If someone`s career should be saved it`s Ana`s,not his.I`m affraid that he never even thought to skip couple of his tournaments to be there for Ana,to support her and help her.He doesn`t want to be seen in her player`s box,always hides in the crowd or the hotel room.And he started playing better in october,when she joined him in Singapore.I hope he can appreciate that.
6.When asked when he is going mo marry Marie,Adam laughed and said:"I`m not planning to get of the island".He gave similar answear about marriage with Ana:"That`s not on my radar".His life is great:golf,private jet,hot chicks,celebrity friends and a lot of money and traveling.He is affraid of marriage,he doesn`t wan`t to have kids-he would have to grow up for that,and he doesn`p planning any kind of future with Ana.After this scandal,Ana can`t believe him anymore,she will start asking herself "what if it`s true?"Imagine her serving,and giving herself questions -where is he now?Why he didn`t call me last night?Is he with her?And Ana won`t return to US for the next 4 months.I guess that`s the price she has to pay for dating famous person.
7.Sorry for long post.

Nena_xxx
Apr 9th, 2010, 10:55 AM
1.What happened to Adam`s 'choice radar'?Oh,yeah,it was set to blondes for 12 years.Ana was never his first choice and no gentleman would use naive girl just because she was there,available and easy pray.As 29 year old man he should know better.And they described him as a perfect gentleman,shy guy,very conservative and private person.Did Kate hurt him so badly that he needed to take Ana as a remedy?
2.While talking about Kate, in serbian press you can read that she payed 20.000$for a seat next to Adam back in february,at some charity event.Both of them,Kate and Ana,are flat,with manly hands,big feet,narrow hips,no waist-they both have boyish figure.Are we sure he likes girls?
3.I have to admit that he spent a lot of his money and time to be with Ana last year.They have never been separeted longer than 2 weeks.Greg Norman had,at Presidents Cup,long conversation with him about relationships,long traveling from US to Europe,priorities and work etic.Aussie press was ready to blame Ana for his bad results,but thank God,he finally said to them to leave her alone and everything stopped when he won Sidney.That`s why i think that he won`t travel that much this year,and he won`t be playing any european tournament so why bother?He may visit his mother before Wimbledon but,in fact,he needs money ,and love boat isn`t so shiny and new anymore.
4.He is a businessman too,and acording to aussie press, he invested a lot of money(4.million $)in a property deal in Dubai with Sunland Group.On of the directors is up on corruption charge and project is off.He,apparently has lost 20 mil.$ in the deal and it has an impact on his game(not being in love with Ana).
5.He is back and he can play 20-30 more years.Ana?5,maybe 6 if she stays injury free.If someone`s career should be saved it`s Ana`s,not his.I`m affraid that he never even thought to skip couple of his tournaments to be there for Ana,to support her and help her.He doesn`t want to be seen in her player`s box,always hides in the crowd or the hotel room.And he started playing better in october,when she joined him in Singapore.I hope he can appreciate that.
6.When asked when he is going mo marry Marie,Adam laughed and said:"I`m not planning to get of the island".He gave similar answear about marriage with Ana:"That`s not on my radar".His life is great:golf,private jet,hot chicks,celebrity friends and a lot of money and traveling.He is affraid of marriage,he doesn`t wan`t to have kids-he would have to grow up for that,and he doesn`p planning any kind of future with Ana.After this scandal,Ana can`t believe him anymore,she will start asking herself "what if it`s true?"Imagine her serving,and giving herself questions -where is he now?Why he didn`t call me last night?Is he with her?And Ana won`t return to US for the next 4 months.I guess that`s the price she has to pay for dating famous person.
7.Sorry for long post.


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The 2nd Law
Apr 9th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Izzy, why does Ana need to be in Madrid on Monday morning? For promotional reasons?

gaviotabr
Apr 9th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Izzy, why does Ana need to be in Madrid on Monday morning? For promotional reasons?

Yes.. check out the articles thread... Ana will be taking part in the press conference to present the Madrid Tournament, and will also be hitting some balls with Manolo Santana.

She has to do this promo stunt due to pulling out of Madrid at the last minute last year, so to avoid further sanctions e be able to take part in this years tournament.

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 9th, 2010, 02:00 PM
Yes.. check out the articles thread... Ana will be taking part in the press conference to present the Madrid Tournament, and will also be hitting some balls with Manolo Santana.

She has to do this promo stunt due to pulling out of Madrid at the last minute last year, so to avoid further sanctions e be able to take part in this years tournament.

WTA Roadmap!:rocker2:










:weirdo:

Cp6uja
Apr 9th, 2010, 04:31 PM
So now we see BAD SIGNS when Ana is with Adam and when Ana is not with him. When she is in USA and when she arrival to Europe. When Adam has bad and when he has good results at PGA tour :tape:

Talking about this promotion action, Ana is obviously still one of most marketable female athletes on Earth so I'm in doubt that Madrid organizers will use Dinara Safina for example on this way, so intensively. Don't forget in summer of 2007 (or 2008?) Ana is special guest star in Madrid and take her important part in opening ceremony of official start of buildings this great new tennis center (I remember that pic of Ana with yellow helmet).

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 9th, 2010, 04:53 PM
^^This has nothing to do with Ana's popularity. She has to do it because she missed Madrid last year.

I hate it, because it means that it will "very likely" delay her training.

Cp6uja
Apr 9th, 2010, 06:32 PM
^^This has nothing to do with Ana's popularity. She has to do it because she missed Madrid last year.

I hate it, because it means that it will "very likely" delay her training.It's not that simple like You think.

Ana is #7 when missed Madrid last year and Zvonareva is #5 and that is reason why they both according to WTA rules have some promotional obligations to Madrid Premier Mandatory organizers. But despite fact that Zvonareva is today more than 30 places better ranked player than Ivanovic, Ana is player which will have that promotional presser with event director/owner Ion Tiriac and playing EXO with Spanish ATP legend Manolo Santana, and Vera will probably day or two before start of Madrid event just visit some hospital in Madrid area or something like that with almost zero publicity. Of course all this is connected with players star-power and global popularity and in Ana case in that kind of "WTA Rank" she is still obviously very high ranked despite all this giant problems with results in last 20 months.

Nena_xxx
Apr 9th, 2010, 08:25 PM
^ anyway, her popularity has a big part in these promotional activities... if she isn't so popular they wouldn't invite her to do so many stuffs... :rolleyes:

Curtos07
Apr 9th, 2010, 09:30 PM
Adam was a bit Ana like today. :lol: 75(+3) on the day, Even overall. Projected cut is +2, so Adam looks safe. No signs of Ana again. :yeah:

bruce goose
Apr 9th, 2010, 10:06 PM
Adam was a bit Ana like today. :lol: 75(+3) on the day, Even overall. Projected cut is +2, so Adam looks safe. No signs of Ana again. :yeah:Thus our scientific hypothesis is proven:A rat turd,when heavy enough,will eventually sink to the bottom of the cesspool where he came from;)....Good news on Ana,too:);it's a boring enough 'sport' as is---even WORSE if you're stuck watching a sure loser:p

The 2nd Law
Apr 10th, 2010, 02:58 AM
Yes.. check out the articles thread... Ana will be taking part in the press conference to present the Madrid Tournament, and will also be hitting some balls with Manolo Santana.

She has to do this promo stunt due to pulling out of Madrid at the last minute last year, so to avoid further sanctions e be able to take part in this years tournament.

Well isn't that just wonderful :cuckoo::weirdo:

jelenacg
Apr 10th, 2010, 07:58 PM
Have no idea where to put this :lol::lol:

From jamie_murray twitter

Adam Scott just holed a ridiculous bunker shot! Im sure Ivanovic would be suitably impressed

Is that really his account :lol:

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:09 PM
Have no idea where to put this :lol::lol:

From jamie_murray twitter

Adam Scott just holed a ridiculous bunker shot! Im sure Ivanovic would be suitably impressed

Is that really his account :lol:Maybe he wants to 'polish Adam's putter' with his tongue:lol:...what an asswipe!!If Ana wants a NON-loser bf--who's not a lying P.O.S.,either--then I've heard that JMDP was available.Some of us in Dinara's forum were hoping that Dina would hook up with him,but she is apparently boycotting bfs during her tennis career....Of course,Juan is articulate in a couple languages so that doesn't match the profile of Ana's previous bfs,picture-book readers Rafa and Verdasco....I'll bet the A.A.T. isn't a genius,either...probably had a rich daddy who paid his way thru private school in Australia(as opposed to earning a scholarship).One thing's for sure;all that money hasn't bought that scumbag any character or class;)

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Maybe he wants to 'polish Adam's putter' with his tongue:lol:...what an asswipe!!


:spit: I hate how he calls Ana "Ivanovic":rolleyes:

If Ana wants a NON-loser bf--who's not a lying P.O.S.,either--then I've heard that JMDP was available.Some of us in Dinara's forum were hoping that Dina would hook up with him,but she is apparently boycotting bfs during her tennis career....

What is a P.O.S.?:scared:

Ana and Delpo would be cute together. He's a total cutie and so is her.:)

Of course,Juan is articulate in a couple languages so that doesn't match the profile of Ana's previous bfs,picture-book readers Rafa and Verdasco....

I don't give a damn what you say about Fiasco, but do not ever again insult Rafa!:mad::armed: He might not be not the brightest bulb on the porch, but he'll always be under Welpenschutz for me. Kthxbye!:wavey:


I'll bet the A.A.T. isn't a genius,either...probably had a rich daddy who paid his way thru private school in Australia(as opposed to earning a scholarship).One thing's for sure;all that money hasn't bought that scumbag any character or class;)

You really hate him, huh?:happy: Ana loves him, so there's gotta be something about him apart from his ridiculous good looks that isn't all that bad...:shrug:;)

jelenacg
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Maybe he wants to 'polish Adam's putter' with his tongue:lol:...what an asswipe!!If Ana wants a NON-loser bf--who's not a lying P.O.S.,either--then I've heard that JMDP was available.Some of us in Dinara's forum were hoping that Dina would hook up with him,but she is apparently boycotting bfs during her tennis career....Of course,Juan is articulate in a couple languages so that doesn't match the profile of Ana's previous bfs,picture-book readers Rafa and Verdasco....I'll bet the A.A.T. isn't a genius,either...probably had a rich daddy who paid his way thru private school in Australia(as opposed to earning a scholarship).One thing's for sure;all that money hasn't bought that scumbag any character or class;)

I miss Del Potro :sobbing: and i really like him.But i`m not sure Ana or Dinara are his type of girls :lol: His previous girlfriend was way different :lol:

And i thought Dinara was in love with Zeljko :lol: or at least has some weird relationship with him

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:36 PM
What is a P.O.S.?:scared:

Ana and Delpo would be cute together. He's a total cutie and so is her.:)



I don't give a damn what you say about Fiasco, but do not ever again insult Rafa!:mad::armed: He might not be not the brightest bulb on the porch, but he'll always be under Welpenschutz for me. Kthxbye!:wavey:



You really hate him, huh?:happy: Ana loves him, so there's gotta be something about him apart from his ridiculous good looks that isn't all that bad...:shrug:;)Okay,Maja,we'll do it step-by-step:

1.The guy was quoted as saying in January that he would do ANYthing possible to help Ana get back on track.So,right there,we can see that he's a two-faced,lying f--k.Yeah,he's physically attractive,but so was Ted Bundy:rolleyes:...the fact that you couldn't name anything good about his character speaks volumes...and we're WELL aware that Ana's mind lacks clarity:sad:

2.Sorry for the Rafa insult...they kinda slip out sometimes:o,so I'll do my best to reign those comments in...it's a shame that he has such nice fans like you,our Jelena and Mixo(our mutual friend Nina,too);I'd enjoy it a lot more if my worst enemies liked him:p

3.P.O.S. is 'pieza de mierda' in Spanish....I think it might be spelled 'Scheisse' in German...and it's P.iece O.f S.;) in English

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:39 PM
I miss Del Potro :sobbing: and i really like him.But i`m not sure Ana or Dinara are his type of girls :lol: His previous girlfriend was way different :lol:

And i thought Dinara was in love with Zeljko :lol: or at least has some weird relationship with himThe girls in the forum joke about Dina and Zeljko sometimes,but few people believe it's like that for real.....You might be right about Juan and Ana,too....When he starts cheating on his gfs or has a lobotomy to make himself much weaker mentally....Then we'll have to PEEL Ana away from him:lol:

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 10th, 2010, 08:49 PM
Okay,Maja,we'll do it step-by-step:

1.The guy was quoted as saying in January that he would do ANYthing possible to help Ana get back on track.So,right there,we can see that he's a two-faced,lying f--k.Yeah,he's physically attractive,but so was Ted Bundy:rolleyes:...the fact that you couldn't name anything good about his character speaks volumes...and we're WELL aware that Ana's mind lacks clarity:sad:

2.Sorry for the Rafa insult...they kinda slip out sometimes:o,so I'll do my best to reign those comments in...it's a shame that he has such nice fans like you,our Jelena and Mixo(our mutual friend Nina,too);I'd enjoy it a lot more if my worst enemies liked him:p

3.P.O.S. is 'pieza de mierda' in Spanish....I think it might be spelled 'Scheisse' in German...and it's P.iece O.f S.;) in English

Step-by-step, day-by-day...:lol:

Well, I can't say anything, positive or negative, about him, because I don't really know much about him.:shrug: Me may have said that he'd do anything to help her, but he can only do so much talking - Ana is the one taking actions. And if she chooses to go WAGging instead of practising, then that's her retarded decision.:o

Yeah, Rafa is a cutie and haters should step to the left!:kiss:

Aha! I guess I should really learn those internet abbreviations a little better:rolls:

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:04 PM
Step-by-step, day-by-day...:lol:

Well, I can't say anything, positive or negative, about him, because I don't really know much about him.:shrug: Me may have said that he'd do anything to help her, but he can only do so much talking - Ana is the one taking actions. And if she chooses to go WAGging instead of practising, then that's her retarded decision.:o

Yeah, Rafa is a cutie and haters should step to the left!:kiss:

Aha! I guess I should really learn those internet abbreviations a little better:rolls:We almost all agree that most of the blame--at least 90%--falls on Ana...but it wouldn't take much for the A.A.T. to simply encourage Ana to NOT go WAGging so much until she got back on track.Of course,he won't do that b/c he's a manipulative P.O.S. who enjoys the mind control he's used on the emotionally fragile Ana;she is dependent on him for her self-estem boosts and he milks that weakness to his advantage....I actually don't hate him;I'd like to help him build up his tolerance to pain by kicking him in the teeth a few times with my steel-tipped boots.THAT way,if he's ever kidnapped and held for ransom,he'll be able to better withstand his kidnappers torture techniques.....See what a nice guy I am!:p

Curtos07
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:11 PM
:lol: Come on Bruce, none of us know what conversations have gone on between Ana and Adam or what the two are actually thinking.

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:15 PM
We almost all agree that most of the blame--at least 90%--falls on Ana...but it wouldn't take much for the A.A.T. to simply encourage Ana to NOT go WAGging so much until she got back on track.Of course,he won't do that b/c he's a manipulative P.O.S. who enjoys the mind control he's used on the emotionally fragile Ana;she is dependent on him for her self-estem boosts and he milks that weakness to his advantage....I actually don't hate him;I'd like to help him build up his tolerance to pain by kicking him in the teeth a few times with my steel-tipped boots.THAT way,if he's ever kidnapped and held for ransom,he'll be able to better withstand his kidnappers torture techniques.....See what a nice guy I am!:p

I quit.:happy:

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:29 PM
:lol: Come on Bruce, none of us know what conversations have gone on between Ana and Adam or what the two are actually thinking.Curtos,you're obviously a big A.A.T. fan and you've made lame excuses for him from the beginning(probably just excessive optimism from you;I'm sure you hoped for the best).I remember how you said how much that Ana had matured thanks to that sorry f--k...but you're running out of alibis now that you're seeing the truth manifest itself.You simply can't deny the fact that ANYone who cared about Ana would wanna see her fulfill her potential in tennis...are you SERIOUSLY gonna tell us that the lying P.O.S. is making the all-out effort to motivate Ana that he CLAIMEd he would back in January???...not that anyone with any common sense actually believed his stupid lies:rolleyes:

Curtos07
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:41 PM
Curtos,you're obviously a big A.A.T. fan and you've made lame excuses for him from the beginning(probably just excessive optimism from you;I'm sure you hoped for the best).I remember how you said how much that Ana had matured thanks to that sorry f--k...but you're running out of alibis now that you're seeing the truth manifest itself.You simply can't deny the fact that ANYone who cared about Ana would wanna see her fulfill her potential in tennis...are you SERIOUSLY gonna tell us that the lying P.O.S. is making the all-out effort to motivate Ana that he CLAIMEd he would back in January???...not that anyone with any common sense actually believed his stupid lies:rolleyes:

I'm not making excuse for him, I just don't see what he has done wrong. I blame Ana and her management for this mess she is in. It's her own doing, not Adam's fault. She makes the decisions, she plays the points, she is responsible for everything she does. Adam has his own career to be concerned about. Her management play a much bigger role and if there is anyone besides Ana to be critical of, it's them.

jelenacg
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:47 PM
Bruce your love for Adam is getting bigger with each day :lol:

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 09:59 PM
I'm not making excuse for him, I just don't see what he has done wrong. I blame Ana and her management for this mess she is in. It's her own doing, not Adam's fault. She makes the decisions, she plays the points, she is responsible for everything she does. Adam has his own career to be concerned about. Her management play a much bigger role and if there is anyone besides Ana to be critical of, it's them.Then let me repeat his words for you....AGAIN:"I'll do anything possible to help her get back on track."

Do you think he's doing that??:rolleyes:Listen,Curtos,we agree that most of the blame falls on Ana and her management...but don't expect me to have respect for an alcoholic's drinking buddies who encourage him to continue being a drunk...and,by the exact same token,don't expect me to believe the Aussie tabloid b.s. that the Tumor is a 'Nice Guy'.He and his p.r team do a superb job of tricking dim-witted people into accepting that contrived crap...but here are some simple words for you:

"Ana,I appreciate your wanting to be with me,babe,but maybe you should spend more time with your new coach to develop a rapport with him."....how difficult is THAT to say?Anyone who CLAIMED to love Ana would consider her wasted potential and try to help her avoid that;on the contrary,a shallow pile of monkey puke would make dishonest statements to the press and encourage her to keep WAGging since he only used Ana for sex...and for boosting his image for retarded,horny male admirers......I hope you can see the plain contrast here.When you TRULY love someone,you'll do almost anything to help them...especially when it's no trouble for you to do it

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:02 PM
Bruce your love for Adam is getting bigger with each day :lol:It's too bad that tumors don't get better with age like wine does,huh?;)

We should start a poll as to when Ana will someday pick a NON-P.O.S. bf....I wonder what percentage would vote 'never':lol:

jelenacg
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:17 PM
It's too bad that tumors don't get better with age like wine does,huh?;)

We should start a poll as to when Ana will someday pick a NON-P.O.S. bf....I wonder what percentage would vote 'never':lol:

I`m more than convince that she just doesn`t know how to manage professional and love life at the same time :shrug:
So no matter who she dates it will always be a problem and it will always take focus from tennis

Btw are we sure she wasn`t watching golf this week?
We also didn`t have any pictures from Houston and she was there :rolleyes:

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:32 PM
I`m more than convince that she just doesn`t know how to manage professional and love life at the same time :shrug:
So no matter who she dates it will always be a problem and it will always take focus from tennis

Btw are we sure she wasn`t watching golf this week?
We also didn`t have any pictures from Houston and she was there :rolleyes:Can't answer the golf question,Jelena...and you might be 100% right with your above statement.I guess that I'm being overly optimistic in wishing for a bf who understood Ana's fragility and tried to help her negate it.I doubt that Rafa gave a damn about her tennis,and it's pretty obvious that the A.A.T. doesn't mind seeing her become more hopelessly dependent on him for her self-esteem....For all his faults,though,I'd say that Nando cared about Ana's success/failures...and let's not forget that she DID win a tourney during his 'era',and her shot-making was much better.

I strongly believe that Novak,JMDP...and possibly a smidge of other male players would try to help Ana during their relationship...and they'd take account of Ana's struggles instead of being selfish and leaving her to fend on her own

jelenacg
Apr 10th, 2010, 10:51 PM
Can't answer the golf question,Jelena...and you might be 100% right with your above statement.I guess that I'm being overly optimistic in wishing for a bf who understood Ana's fragility and tried to help her negate it.I doubt that Rafa gave a damn about her tennis,and it's pretty obvious that the A.A.T. doesn't mind seeing her become more hopelessly dependent on him for her self-esteem....For all his faults,though,I'd say that Nando cared about Ana's success/failures...and let's not forget that she DID win a tourney during his 'era',and her shot-making was much better.

I strongly believe that Novak,JMDP...and possibly a smidge of other male players would try to help Ana during their relationship...and they'd take account of Ana's struggles instead of being selfish and leaving her to fend on her own

:lol:
No way even if i like them both ,only Rafa would be perfect for Ana :hearts:

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 10th, 2010, 11:03 PM
:lol:
No way even if i like them both ,only Rafa would be perfect for Ana :hearts:

This. He definitely has the work ethic Ana drastically lacks!:bounce: They could go golfing in the morning, practice over noon and have fun at night.:angel:

jelenacg
Apr 10th, 2010, 11:09 PM
This. He definitely has the work ethic Ana drastically lacks!:bounce: They could go golfing in the morning, practice over noon and have fun at night.:angel:

Exactly :lol: And no one has better work ethic than Rafa. Not to mention his love for tennis,competing,winning ... :hearts:
And Ana would never try to escape from tennis with Rafa by her side :rolleyes:

bruce goose
Apr 10th, 2010, 11:13 PM
:lol:
No way even if i like them both ,only Rafa would be perfect for Ana :hearts:They already tried that....and it didn't work,remember??That's probably one of the reasons why Ana was so lost on court for a good stretch back in 2008,post-RG...and then Ana was ripe for the picking with Nando cuz she emotionally needed a substitute when Nadal went slinking back to his gf with his tail between his legs after their affair was discovered.I'll give him some credit for going back to his steady gf...he DOES have SOME principles,at least.....I'll be nice by not adding more comments:angel:

You can't seriously believe that Novak would abuse Ana psychologically and take advantage of her;I'm not saying that it'd be pure heaven b/c I can't predict imaginary situations with 100% accuracy,but he'd NEVER hurt Ana.......And I doubt that JMDP would,either,but I don't know as much about him so I can't say for sure

jelenacg
Apr 10th, 2010, 11:29 PM
They already tried that....and it didn't work,remember??Nadal went slinking back to his gf with his tail between his legs when their affair was discovered.I'll give him some credit for going back to his steady gf...he DOES have SOME principles,at least.....I'll be nice by not adding more comments:angel:

You can't seriously believe that Novak would abuse Ana psychologically and take advantage of her;I'm not saying that it'd be pure heaven b/c I can't predict imaginary situations with 100% accuracy,but he'd NEVER hurt Ana.......And I doubt that JMDP would,either,but I don't know as much about him so I can't say for sure

No they didn`t :lol: Bruce stop imagining things :happy:
Novak likes to take of his mind from tennis from time to time,like this year Miami ,Miami 08
Both times lost in 2r and both times caught partying in Miami :lol::lol:
Plus i don`t like his family :rolleyes:
Ana needs someone who will make her focus more on tennis,and no one is better than Rafa :worship:
But don`t worry this won`t happen anyway :p

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 10th, 2010, 11:43 PM
They already tried that....and it didn't work,remember??That's probably one of the reasons why Ana was so lost on court for a good stretch back in 2008,post-RG...and then Ana was ripe for the picking with Nando cuz she emotionally needed a substitute when Nadal went slinking back to his gf with his tail between his legs after their affair was discovered.I'll give him some credit for going back to his steady gf...he DOES have SOME principles,at least.....I'll be nice by not adding more comments:angel:

You can't seriously believe that Novak would abuse Ana psychologically and take advantage of her;I'm not saying that it'd be pure heaven b/c I can't predict imaginary situations with 100% accuracy,but he'd NEVER hurt Ana.......And I doubt that JMDP would,either,but I don't know as much about him so I can't say for sure

You trippin, dude! Go get some meds!:lol:

bruce goose
Apr 11th, 2010, 12:19 AM
No they didn`t :lol: Bruce stop imagining things :happy:
Novak likes to take of his mind from tennis from time to time,like this year Miami ,Miami 08
Both times lost in 2r and both times caught partying in Miami :lol::lol:
Plus i don`t like his family :rolleyes:
Ana needs someone who will make her focus more on tennis,and no one is better than Rafa :worship:
But don`t worry this won`t happen anyway :pWell,you're the same naive fans who believe that he WASN'T using steroids:haha:;you still haven't explained why his former marathon stamina disappeared;).Don't worry,you won't find an answer....It's not his first affair;he had a fling with Makiri in 2005(imagine THOSE convos in English:haha::haha::haha:),and he denied THAT one,too,even though they were caught on camera.

Since none of us three can be completely impartial,I'll give you this:Back in 2008 when the affair first happened,I shared the article with my enginnering students at the production plant.Out of 13 people,how many do you think accepted the 'platonic friends' alibi of Ana and Rafa??.....ZERO,not a single one:lol::lol:...and Rafa is very popular in Mexico,too

Ana is better off w/o a lying cheat who can't be faithful to his longtime gf...although I'll agree that she MIGHT be able to learn some stuff from Nadal...even though he's done NOTHING so far....I guess the 'friendship' hasn't been so close since Nando amd Adam came along,huh?;)

jelenacg
Apr 11th, 2010, 12:45 AM
Rafa and Ana were spotted one time going to the restaurant with some Rafa`s friend during the day.
If that`s enough evidence to you that they had something well what can i say,we all know you have very active imagination :lol::lol:
Besides if they had some affair Ana wouldn`t be looking so dorky and innocent around him in Miami next year.:angel:
Rafa and Kiri... well i don`t see Ana sleeping with her friends lover so there goes you theory :spit::lol:
About Rafa`s tennis we`ll talk after RG :p
And again ,you should be a writer with that imagination :)

Curtos07
Apr 11th, 2010, 01:00 AM
:haha: Bruce, I don't agree with most of what you said but your posts are hilarious and I have a fun time reading them. :p

So every guy Ana is spotted with, she had an affair with? Come on, she's not a whore. :lol: :p

bruce goose
Apr 11th, 2010, 01:07 AM
Rafa and Ana were spotted one time going to the restaurant with some Rafa`s friend during the day.
If that`s enough evidence to you that they had something well what can i say,we all know you have very active imagination :lol::lol:
Besides if they had some affair Ana wouldn`t be looking so dorky and innocent around him in Miami next year.:angel:
Rafa and Kiri... well i don`t see Ana sleeping with her friends lover so there goes you theory :spit::lol:
About Rafa`s tennis we`ll talk after RG :p
And again ,you should be a writer with that imagination :)You're good at inventing desperate alibis on short notice,Jelena:p.They were spotted MUCH more than once together during that period in 2008...and Nadal's friend left the restaurant in order to give the 'platonic friends' more privacy...it was just the two of them and the cook...and I'm sure he was smart enough not to snoop around

Your theory is counter-intuitive,Jelena;if Makiri spoke well of Nadal,then that would make Ana MORE likely to check him out....Plus,it was three years later,not simultaneous

Finally,there are two other diehard Rafa fans in Dinara's forum who are friends of mine....They get upset with me JUST like you do...and guess what??Even THEY admit that he probably used steroids for years.Your other justifications are relatively plausible,but you CAN'T explain how a guy can run around for 5 hours and wear out his opponents...and then he starts getting tired in APRIL...when he's TWENTY-TWO years old:lol:.Just by coincidence;),the stamina loss happened at the same time that his bicep and pec muscles evaporated.I don't doubt that Rafa might do well on clay b/c it's the one surface where his loss of power will hurt him the least...plus he's a good shot-maker who knows the clay-court angles very well.Just don't expect to see the artificially-inflated dominance you USED to see....I'll conclude by repeating my other beef with him;he did NOTHING,as Ana's 'friend',to help her during her slump...so why on earth would you expect him to be ANY different during an open relationship??According to his own words,loved ones do absolutely NOTHING to help you...even though he's gotten tons of help from Tio Antonio:rolleyes:

jelenacg
Apr 11th, 2010, 01:25 AM
They were spotted MUCH more than once together during that period in 2008..

Your theory is counter-intuitive,Jelena;if Makiri spoke well of Nadal,then that would make Ana MORE likely to check him out....Plus,it was three years later,not simultaneous


Please tell me about that? You clearly know more than all of us :p

How yes no :lol: :spit:

If i go your way i could start wondering why Ana and Nole went to the theater together :lol: Why he didn`t go with his gf who was also in Belgrade at the time :lol:
You can always find reasons to think bad about people if you want :p and with you imagination ...sky is the limit :happy:

bruce goose
Apr 11th, 2010, 02:15 AM
Please tell me about that? You clearly know more than all of us :p

How yes no :lol: :spit:

If i go your way i could start wondering why Ana and Nole went to the theater together :lol: Why he didn`t go with his gf who was also in Belgrade at the time :lol:
You can always find reasons to think bad about people if you want :p and with you imagination ...sky is the limit :happy:You have your OWN version of delusional dreaming sometimes,Jelena....You're not as bad as Ana is,but you've got it within you when the conditions are right.Like I said,Nadal has a history there...his last two female 'friends' were Ana and Makiri.He never takes Carla Suarez Navarro or Cara Black to any private,candlelit dinners...just a coincidence,right?:lol:.When he was caught with Makiri back in 2005,he sorta panicked and blurted to the press that he barely even KNEW Maria---even though the whole world could testify to the contrary.He gave one of those Vatican-style,boldfaced denials that the 'Mother Church' often gives when they're caught red-handed.This is also the same guy who swears to us that he weighs EXACTLY the same as he did in 2008...so who's being imaginative here,Jelena?(wink,wink).He's not what you'd call 'booming with credibility' here....I'll remind you again that NONE of my students,some of whom were big Rafa fans and none of whom were haters,believed his bullcrap in re Ana...that's 0 out of 13.The fans weren't quite as afraid as you,apparently,to pull that comfortable wool from over their eyes...and I'll remind you of his fans in Dinara's forum who find it suspicious that a former marathon player has suddenly begun getting exhausted at the age of 22....I'm sure that you're working on an explanation for tHAT one...can't wait to hear it:lol::lol::lol:

Not sure what you meant by "how yes no",but you can clarify that at your own leisure...and let me add that,if I were forced to choose a mate for Ana...and could only pick Rafa or the Tumor,then I'd pick Rafa.I'd say that,in his own conceited way,he cares more about Ana than the Douchebag From Down Under does.How's THAT?:smooch::hug:

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 11th, 2010, 08:23 AM
You have your OWN version of delusional dreaming sometimes,Jelena....You're not as bad as Ana is,but you've got it within you when the conditions are right.Like I said,Nadal has a history there...his last two female 'friends' were Ana and Makiri.He never takes Carla Suarez Navarro or Cara Black to any private,candlelit dinners...just a coincidence,right?:lol:.When he was caught with Makiri back in 2005,he sorta panicked and blurted to the press that he barely even KNEW Maria---even though the whole world could testify to the contrary.He gave one of those Vatican-style,boldfaced denials that the 'Mother Church' often gives when they're caught red-handed.This is also the same guy who swears to us that he weighs EXACTLY the same as he did in 2008...so who's being imaginative here,Jelena?(wink,wink).He's not what you'd call 'booming with credibility' here....I'll remind you again that NONE of my students,some of whom were big Rafa fans and none of whom were haters,believed his bullcrap in re Ana...that's 0 out of 13.The fans weren't quite as afraid as you,apparently,to pull that comfortable wool from over their eyes...and I'll remind you of his fans in Dinara's forum who find it suspicious that a former marathon player has suddenly begun getting exhausted at the age of 22....I'm sure that you're working on an explanation for tHAT one...can't wait to hear it:lol::lol::lol:

Not sure what you meant by "how yes no",but you can clarify that at your own leisure...and let me add that,if I were forced to choose a mate for Ana...and could only pick Rafa or the Tumor,then I'd pick Rafa.I'd say that,in his own conceited way,he cares more about Ana than the Douchebag From Down Under does.How's THAT?:smooch::hug:

What did I tell you about critcizing Rafa?:armed:

bruce goose
Apr 11th, 2010, 12:02 PM
What did I tell you about critcizing Rafa?:armed:Read everything,Maja:angel:;I said that he was better than the A.A.T.---CERTAINLY he's a more talented athlete---and that he cared about Ana more...he just has an odd way of showing it sometimes,like when he attributed all of Ana's problems to injuries...even though he KNEW that wasn't the main reason.I think that Ana would've listened to him if he had suggested a full-time coach long ago;he has credibility in Ana's eyes...but,for some reason,he chose to feed her the same delusion that she fed herSELF...that her slump was 100% injury-related and had nothing to do with her internal shortcomings.

Also,I believe that he was gentle with Ana back in 2008 once their affair was discovered(btw,if you watch the video of them entering the restaurant,Ana has the SAME dizzy glow on her face as she does when she's WAGging).He didn't just tell her,'Hey,hit the road,bitch!.I'm going back to my steady gf." You can see that there are no hard feelings between them,so he probably just said something like,"Listen,Ana,I'm sorry but maybe we made a mistake.I've been with this girl('Xisca') for more than 3 1/2 years and still have feelings for her...so I can't just break up with her. Let's keep a low profile for a while until all of this attention dies down." They'd spent a LOT of time together from RG up until then,and then they didn't meet for several months until the Olympics.During the imterim,Ana rarely smiled in public and she had all the signs of someone who was burdened by some personal problem.

Just do the math,Maja:Nadal has a prior history of having a fling and he seemed to be trying to start up with Shakira,too...one of my friends who's a HUGE Rafa fan doesn't believe his alibis,either....Plus,as you've admitted,he's not exactly the brightest fellow,so you wouldn't spend hours alone with him for his conversation skills.Makiri barely knows any Spanish,and Rafa's English was atrocious back in 2005(only slightly better NOW),so what do YOU think they were doing together?;)I know guys who have their share of platonic friends,and Rafa doesn't fit the profile.YOU are his fan:I challenge you to find other pics of Nadal taking a 'female friend' to a private 1-on-1 candlelit dinner within the last 5 years(other than Xisca).How many of these 'platonic female friends' would you say that he had?Do ANY of them look like Suarez Navarro or Amanmuradova??Aye seriously doubt it:lol:

I don't blame him for being attracted to our Ana and spending time with her(any normal guy WOULD),and this was only Ana's first indiscretion that we KNEW about....at year's end in December,she was two-timing with Nando and Adam.She gets a lot of blame here,too,for running around with a guy who was involved with someone else.She could've said 'no',but you know our Ana:In her private mental Wonderland,she was caught up with the silly notion of a storybook romance between the ATP and WTA #1s,and she sure as hell didn't learn from her mom and dad to think the consequences through.

If they ever had an honest,open relationship,then I agree that Rafa COULD help Ana quite a bit.....IF he showed the willingness to do so...but I'll be frank with you,Maja:Once guys get comfortable cheating,it gets awfully hard for them to stop...and it doesn't even matter how gorgeous their steady gf is---they'll still chase women.....However,Ana has her house on Mallorca,so maybe you'll get your wish someday....The Future is such an unknown with Ana,isn't it??:o

Jang87
Apr 11th, 2010, 12:52 PM
I am so lost. What is this discussion about? Is this what lack of news does to fans? LOl :)

gaviotabr
Apr 11th, 2010, 01:59 PM
Wow.. you guys have quite a discussion going on..

I think we should leave other players private lives out of the forum.. :lol::spit: But that's just my opinion.. :lol:

Anyway.. back to Ana. I was searching for news today, and ended up bumping on a highlights videos of Ana's match against Dechy in Wimbledon 2008. I could barely remember some of the points played in this match.. it was so nerve wrecking I think my memory blacked out the actual tennis that was played. So I went on to watch the youtube video. I can only say it hurt. Not only because it was an actual high quality match, with lots of pretty good points, and Ana still had punch in her shots, but mainly because I didn't remember how many opportunities Ana lost and how she could have had that match in the bag easily. At Deuce with Dechy serving and Ana leading 5-2, Dechy hit an awful approach shot to Ana's backhand.. it could have been an easy pass either DTL or CC. But instead, Ana decided to hit a slice that flotead around the middle of the court.. That gave time to Dechy to get to the ball and make a competent deep volley (as a great doubles player she was I could expect no less of her). Still.. the ball came right back at Ana, who had the whole CC open.. but she tried to hit a lob, and it was so short, Dechy easily smashed. Ana had 2 clear chances of winning that point and getting to Set Point.. but she couldn't. Dechy went on to hold. And to follow the rule, Ana got broken. She has always, since ever, got broken right after missing big chances. It seems she just can't focus on the next point, and completely loses concentration. They went into a tie break and Ana lost the first set... you guys know the rest. I have to say I was also nostalgic.. Ana stayed so strong throughout the whole match, she kept going and fighting from start to finish, even with lots of chokes in between. In the end, she won an extremely tight match, which has been a rarity in the past couple of years. And we only have to look at Wozniacki to see how important, how crucial it is to win matches you should lose. Or Safina last year... those are the matches that give you another chance to play well, that can raise confidence, that can make you believe you can win in any circunstances. Ana hasn't won one of those in ages, and obviously doesn't think she can win. But of course, it all comes down to how you see and face matches... winning like that against Dechy wasn't a confidence boost for Ana, it was a draining effort.

I have to say I personally blame this match for a lot of things.. it was like a chain of events, dating back to this. Actually dating back to the stupid decision to withdraw from Eastbourne and play Wimbledon without any preparation.. but this match was when it all showed. I think the effort to win drained Ana completely and she had nothing in the tank when she went on court to play Zheng. She was then embarrassed on court.. I feel like if Ana had maybe won that point at 5-2* deuce, broken, won that set 6-2, she would have cruised to victory and would have at the very least put up a great fight in her next match, which she could not do at the time. Maybe she could even have won.. and that was an easy draw, she could have reached the semis and losing to Serena is never bad.. But no.. she lost in an ugly way, got embarrassed.. felt she had to work a lot to improve.. got injured during the july off season (maybe too tense?), had to withdraw from the Olympics (which I think hurt her a whole lot), and had the worst loss for a number one at the time at the USO (which killed her spirit I believe).. the rest is history and here we are, with Ana playing club level tennis and showing awful attitude. Maybe if she had reached semis at Wimbledon, she would have been more relaxed during summer break and would not have got injured. That injury wrecked havoc with Ana's head. And then we wouldn't be in this situation now.

But well... so many maybes... and maybe doesn't exist. Just watching the highlights of that match, made my head spin for the 10 minutes that the video lasts.. and inspired me for this loooong post. Just some random ramblings.. Ana is in the hole she is, and maybe that's destiny.. uff, another maybe. :tape:

Back to the cruel reality.. I've seen a couple of articles just repeating the info that Ana will be presenting the Madrid Open tomorrow at noon. So we will see pics and have info on the press conference for sure.

bruce goose
Apr 11th, 2010, 02:53 PM
Izzy,your intuition into women is undoubtedly better,but I'd like to add something brief:I recall watching the video that detailed the Washington Redskins 1991-92 Super Bowl-winning season.A great linebacker named Matt Millen was on that team as he neared the end of his career,but Millen had played for San Fran the previous season.Matt spoke of how much Quarterback Mark Rypien had toughened mentally from how he USED to be.He related how he came to the line of scrimmage early in the playoff game from Jan. 1991 when the Redskins and 49'ers met.He went back to the huddle after a play and told his teammates,"This game is gonna be won!!That guy(Rypien) isn't ready.He doesn't look like he even BELIEVES he can win!" Fittingly,Rypien choked on several plays during that game that Washington easily could have won.Fortunately,Rypien's confidence grew and he broke through the following year.

I was reminded of that video when I watched the Ana-Zheng Wimbledon 2008 match....There were LOTS of close-up shots of Ana as the camera focused on her lovely face,and her expression told me:'What the hell do I do NOW?:unsure::unsure::unsure:Tennis USEd to be so easy when I was working my way up,but now I'm the HUNTED instead of the hunter:scared:.People EXPECT me to be great,to replace Justine as a solid #1.I never thought I'd feel like THIS!!:eek:" I saw fear and confusion written all over her face,and I said to myself that she wasn't even SLIGHTLY ready for the pressure.It was THEN that I knew she'd have a big slump.......just didn't anticipate that it'd be THIS bad.I thought she'd eventually regain her fire for tennis and turn it around....I just hate those kinds of premonitions:sad:

gaviotabr
Apr 11th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Izzy,your intuition into women is undoubtedly better,but I'd like to add something brief:I recall watching the video that detailed the Washington Redskins 1991-92 Super Bowl-winning season.A great linebacker named Matt Millen was on that team as he neared the end of his career,but Millen had played for San Fran the previous season.Matt spoke of how much Quarterback Mark Rypien had toughened mentally from how he USED to be.He related how he came to the line of scrimmage early in the playoff game from Jan. 1991 when the Redskins and 49'ers met.He went back to the huddle after a play and told his teammates,"This game is gonna be won!!That guy(Rypien) isn't ready.He doesn't look like he even BELIEVES he can win!" Fittingly,Rypien choked on several plays during that game that Washington easily could have won.Fortunately,Rypien's confidence grew and he broke through the following year.

I was reminded of that video when I watched the Ana-Zheng Wimbledon 2008 match....There were LOTS of close-up shots of Ana as the camera focused on her lovely face,and her expression told me:'What the hell do I do NOW?:unsure::unsure::unsure:Tennis USEd to be so easy when I was working my way up,but now I'm the HUNTED instead of the hunter:scared:.People EXPECT me to be great,to replace Justine as a solid #1.I never thought I'd feel like THIS!!:eek:" I saw fear and confusion written all over her face,and I said to myself that she wasn't even SLIGHTLY ready for the pressure.It was THEN that I knew she'd have a big slump.......just didn't anticipate that it'd be THIS bad.I thought she'd eventually regain her fire for tennis and turn it around....I just hate those kinds of premonitions:sad:

I felt like she wasn't even there.. like she was drained and couldn't do much. But I guess we can also see it like you see Bruce. Ana already showed there something she has been showing in every single match for the past year.. fear and uncertainty. And that kills anyone in a match.

bruce goose
Apr 11th, 2010, 03:04 PM
I dunno, got any better photos to compare Bruce? :shrug: :pAaron,I've said my piece on that already...probably TOO much so since this is ANA'S thread,not Nadal's.He's got lots of fans here who are VERY nice people,so let's leave that discussion for PMs or Messenger,okay??:)

gaviotabr
Apr 11th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Aaron,I've said my piece on that already...probably TOO much so since this is ANA'S thread,not Nadal's.He's got lots of fans here who are VERY nice people,so let's leave that discussion for PMs or Messenger,okay??:)

Yes, please.. ;)

Lord Choc Ice
Apr 11th, 2010, 03:15 PM
Aaron,I've said my piece on that already...probably TOO much so since this is ANA'S thread,not Nadal's.He's got lots of fans here who are VERY nice people,so let's leave that discussion for PMs or Messenger,okay??:)
Yeah yeah...Post deleted. ;)

bruce goose
Apr 11th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Yeah yeah...Post deleted. ;)We managed to put a winked smile on the face of our lovely:hearts: Mayor of Anapolis,Aaron.....maybe I'll get a platonic kiss from her later on:p:woohoo:

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 12th, 2010, 06:53 AM
I had a dream that Ana had accepted a WC into the Barcelona MD "because I'm already in Spain and really love this country. I had a great training and am thrilled to play here this year.":sobbing:

*edit* In case you haven't seen this yet http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=406100

bruce goose
Apr 12th, 2010, 12:37 PM
I had a dream that Ana had accepted a WC into the Barcelona MD "because I'm already in Spain and really love this country. I had a great training and am thrilled to play here this year.":sobbing:

*edit* In case you haven't seen this yet http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=406100Did you audibly hear Ana say those words,in English or Spanish,in your dream or did you just see her name on the 'dream' drawsheet and imagine her reason?;)

As for your link,most ANY man would be content with the "ugliest" gal from that group:p

Marilyn Monheaux
Apr 12th, 2010, 12:46 PM
Did you audibly hear Ana say those words,in English or Spanish,in your dream or did you just see her name on the 'dream' drawsheet and imagine her reason?;)

As for your link,most ANY man would be content with the "ugliest" gal from that group:p

She was talking to the press. All giddly and excited!:sobbing:

Jang87
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:04 PM
Any news from the press conference in Madrid today?

Lord Choc Ice
Apr 12th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Ana should've played Barcelona. The field is weak as pisswater. :o

gaviotabr
Apr 12th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Any news from the press conference in Madrid today?

Things are slowly coming out now.. I'll be posting on the article's thread.