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gaviotabr
May 12th, 2010, 08:56 PM
When Ana was playing agressive and hitting the ball hard she won the point. But most of the time she did not construct the point at all. She just pushed the ball over the net into JJs backhand or in the middle of the court. She had no gameplan today. If she did have one, she did not follow it. She freaked out and started hitting balls left and right. I don't like how she gives up as soon as she finds herself behind in a set! Where is her fighting spirit? Where is Ana from the AO! :tears:. Do you guys rememeber the article where she says she doesn't fear losing anymore? Well that is evident. Because she is not fighting.

Just don't give up Ana, please!

Yes.. I actually cringed at that. She has grown used to losing.. so when she gets into a losing position, she just thinks to herself.. "Well.. it was not my day today.. whatever.. Maybe next week!". And gives up. :o

Jang87
May 12th, 2010, 09:00 PM
Yes.. I actually cringed at that. She has grown used to losing.. so when she gets into a losing position, she just thinks to herself.. "Well.. it was not my day today.. whatever.. Maybe next week!". And gives up. :o

Yeah. And that is a very dangerous mentality to have. I don't want Ana to be a top 40 player for the rest of her career. She needs to snap out of it. If she doesn't fear losing, then why is she so tense out there? She has to swing more freely. I hope Heinz doesn't give up on her.

gaviotabr
May 12th, 2010, 09:07 PM
Yeah. And that is a very dangerous mentality to have. I don't want Ana to be a top 40 player for the rest of her career. She needs to snap out of it. If she doesn't fear losing, then why is she so tense out there? She has to swing more freely. I hope Heinz doesn't give up on her.

It's a loser's mentality.

I don't think Ana will settle with being a top 40 scrub. That's my worry.. how long more will she take? Because she said herself she is always thinking she will snap out of this next week.. next week.. next week. How long more will she keep hoping? There has to come a time she will feel the need to take matters into her hands and stop waiting for things to suddenly fall from the sky.

I don't understand why she gets so tight and so tense... and literally on the verge of a nervous break down almost every time she steps on court. The commentators were even saying that when she is in a losing position she rushes so much it looks like she wants to lose as soon as possible so she can get out of there.

When she was aggressive she actually won the points today.. so I'm really puzzled why she decided to be such a pusher for 90% of the match. I would be frustrated as hell if I were her coach.

gaviotabr
May 12th, 2010, 09:08 PM
I'm venting away today...

But really.. I got totally pissed off at Ana today.. she was stupid beyond words.

Jang87
May 12th, 2010, 09:38 PM
I know how you feel. She could have won it, but noooo of course she chokes it away. Uff. This is exhausting. I

ts like when she plays agressive tennis she plays more freely. And she actually hits some nice winners. But today..she was just passive. A punching bag for JJ. I was seriously boiling up inside while watching the match. It looked like her main goal out there was to lose.

bruce goose
May 12th, 2010, 09:39 PM
I'm venting away today...

But really.. I got totally pissed off at Ana today.. she was stupid beyond words.Just to be clear,JJ said in her presser that she didn't even pay attention to the fact that she was playing Ana??I'm asking because the blasted audio clips don't work,and they list two statements from JJ.#1 is about how she feels playing Ana,amd #2 relates how she came back from 4-6,0-2 down......Gotta run to class but I'll be looking to see if anyone has the answer when I get back

AstuteLearner8
May 12th, 2010, 09:52 PM
I feel the same..

I was like.. WTF!?

Up 40-30 at 2-2. Broken.
Up 30-0 at 3-3. Broken.
Up 30-0 at 4-4. Broken.

And all with DFs or stupid play or UEs. JJ probably hit one or two winners there.

Then at 2-1 had 2 BPs wasted with shanks. :sobbing:

Truth to be told, Ana played like crap all match. JJ was helping out.. but after getting broken for 5-4 in the second, she completely zoned out.. it looked like any match for the past couple of years.. no focus, no nothing.

Oh no :help: this is really bad going to RG, how is she going to defend her fourth round points like this???

Ugh JJ, lets hope karma will do something to her.

gaviotabr
May 12th, 2010, 10:47 PM
Oh no :help: this is really bad going to RG, how is she going to defend her fourth round points like this???


She will need plenty of luck.. luck for the draw.. luck for the matches.. luck everywhere.

Unfortunately Ana hasn't had luck in forever.. :help:

gaviotabr
May 12th, 2010, 10:48 PM
Just to be clear,JJ said in her presser that she didn't even pay attention to the fact that she was playing Ana??I'm asking because the blasted audio clips don't work,and they list two statements from JJ.#1 is about how she feels playing Ana,amd #2 relates how she came back from 4-6,0-2 down......Gotta run to class but I'll be looking to see if anyone has the answer when I get back

I haven't been able to listen to it. But according to the articles, yes.. she said she didn't even pay atention that it was Ana at the other side of the net.

gaviotabr
May 12th, 2010, 10:51 PM
So.. enough with JJ... let's focus on Ana. She has 10 days to practice and prepare before RG. Will she be able to do something there? I really don't know... She has 280 points to defend.. so she might fall about to number 55 in the rankings again. Not that it matters much.. :o

Lord Choc Ice
May 12th, 2010, 10:55 PM
Oh no :help: this is really bad going to RG, how is she going to defend her fourth round points like this???

Ugh JJ, lets hope karma will do something to her.
I don't think JJ will need karma to do something to her lol. She was absolute rubbish in the match as well. She's just lucky Ana was worse. I don't reckon JJ would reach the QF of the French Open with that level. Of course it has been a while since she made it past R4 at a slam. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 12th, 2010, 11:52 PM
I wish we could just kick people out of here... unfortunately there is no such option. Go away haters.

Davodus
May 13th, 2010, 12:03 AM
I'm venting away today...

But really.. I got totally pissed off at Ana today.. she was stupid beyond words.

I had trouble getting to sleep because I was so mad at her. I just kept thinking if she hadn't played like an absolute idiot, she would have won 6-2 6-2 or something. So annoying.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 12:11 AM
I had trouble getting to sleep because I was so mad at her. I just kept thinking if she hadn't played like an absolute idiot, she would have won 6-2 6-2 or something. So annoying.

I wasn't able to do anything all day.. :o

And yes, if she had not been stupid beyond words, she would have given JJ a beatdown. She really didn't have to do much.. :o

I'm actually getting used to Ana losing.. but losing like this NO! She lost because she was an absolute idiot. And losing to JJ of all people, after all that has happened and keep happening... stings.

Curtos07
May 13th, 2010, 12:30 AM
I always feel horrible after a loss, but I can't quite recalling being so sick after one like today. I totally expected Ana to lose this match. In fact, I predicted a 6-3, 6-2 loss. I kind of wished it was that way, but now I keep replaying the 2nd set in my mind over and over again and keep thinking what could have been. :sobbing: Oh well, I want a rematch at RG between these two. Ana needs her revenge. Karma can be a bitch. :fiery:

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 12:35 AM
I always feel horrible after a loss, but I can't quite recalling being so sick after one like today. I totally expected Ana to lose this match. In fact, I predicted a 6-3, 6-2 loss. I kind of wished it was that way, but now I keep replaying the 2nd set in my mind over and over again and keep thinking what could have been. :sobbing: Oh well, I want a rematch at RG between these two. Ana needs her revenge. Karma can be a bitch. :fiery:

I actually want a rematch as well. I want Ana to play JJ at RG.. and she better give JJ a total beatdown, otherwise I'll find a way, but I'll chase Ana until I can tell her personally to stop being so stupid.. and such a choker. :mad:

DownTheLine21
May 13th, 2010, 12:56 AM
I actually want a rematch as well. I want Ana to play JJ at RG.. and she better give JJ a total beatdown, otherwise I'll find a way, but I'll chase Ana until I can tell her personally to stop being so stupid.. and such a choker. :mad:

Maybe Jankovic's post-match behavior will fire her up a bit? Probably not, but we can hope.

Curtos07
May 13th, 2010, 12:58 AM
I actually want a rematch as well. I want Ana to play JJ at RG.. and she better give JJ a total beatdown, otherwise I'll find a way, but I'll chase Ana until I can tell her personally to stop being so stupid.. and such a choker. :mad:

Choking is the worst way to lose. It's just too bad Ana allowed the pressure get to her. She should of gone out there with the attitude of nothing to lose, because JJ was the one who had a lot more to lose than Ana had, at least in a symbolic way. If Ana kept her cool and played calm, she would of had won. But of course, she had to be a headcase as per usual. :o

bruce goose
May 13th, 2010, 01:15 AM
Just went to JJ's forum to catch those comments that won't play due to the WTA's f--ked-up website that can't upload videos properly....Her statement about Ana being 'just another opponent' wasn't really offensive,IMO....It's probably just a simple case of bitterness that manifests itself as denial.Although she should still show the same respect that she would for anyone else,I kinda understand why JJ might be a little bitter at Ana.She probably rationalizes,"That dizzy girl wins ONE Grand Slam against an ideal opponent...and then fades into nothingness on court while she f--ks every playboy she meets and barely plays one tourney a month.Meanwhile,I maintain the #1 ranking for almost a friggin' year...had to face GOAT Serena in the USO final(and STILL gave her a tough match:()...and I've got the best H2H vs. the WS of ANYONE...and,compared to Miss Smiley,I'm as popular as chopped liver in my own damned country...which she won't even compete for since she's too busy being an air-brained slut:mad:"

Again,I'm NOT saying that she's correct for thinking that way...but I can comprehend how she might've gotten like that

Lord Choc Ice
May 13th, 2010, 01:20 AM
I wish we could just kick people out of here... unfortunately there is no such option. Go away haters.
I haven't bothered to read through Ana's whole GM results threads (I've just post and left), but they're not all that bad in terms of haters.

I'm willing to be most of Ana's haters are mostly Hantuchova tards who are still mad about the '08 SF at AO.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 01:32 AM
I haven't bothered to read through Ana's whole GM results threads (I've just post and left), but they're not all that bad in terms of haters.

I'm willing to be most of Ana's haters are mostly Hantuchova tards who are still mad about the '08 SF at AO.

I haven't been to GM in ages... thank god! It's nuts there...

To see known haters and those who slam her whenever they can(and then say they like her... :rolleyes:) enjoying this forum in a day like today is what pissed me off and prompted that post.

bruce goose
May 13th, 2010, 01:37 AM
I haven't been to GM in ages... thank god! It's nuts there...

To see known haters and those who slam her whenever they can(and then say they like her... :rolleyes:) enjoying this forum in a day like today is what pissed me off and prompted that post.I read her comments about her supposed NON-rivalry with Ana,but did JJ say anything pointed or noteworthy about her comeback??Something like,"Oh,I know that she has a habit of losing matches when she has the lead so I felt confident that I could come back against her"....Or did she not say anything significant afterwards?

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 01:37 AM
Maybe Jankovic's post-match behavior will fire her up a bit? Probably not, but we can hope.

I actually think all this gets Ana nervous and embarrassed... she toned down the fistpumps and ajdes a whole lot today... and I think in the end it helped her to zone out of the match and choke. She needs to be pumped up, fired up to play JJ.. and toning it down just made her lose intensity. Ana is a people pleaser... if she feels she is bothering anyone, even if it's Jankovic.. she gets out of her way to not bother them anymore. :o

I do think she should go out there to get revenge the next time they play.. otherwise I'll be totally mad. :mad:

Lord Choc Ice
May 13th, 2010, 01:40 AM
I don't think we should discount Rome just because of this though. :awww: She would've beat her third top 10 player in a row if she'd beat JJ so when you look at it that way it's not so bad. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 02:00 AM
This is not about discounting Rome. I actually think we should only count Rome when Ana can follow it up. So far she has a couple of oasis weeks every now and then during her slump.. but that doesn't make the slump any better. For all we know Rome can be one of that.. like Linz 08.. like Dubai 09.. like IW 09... like Wimbledon 09... like Brisbane 09... all surrounded by abysmal play.

The problem with today was not the fact that Ana lost.. I think we all knew that was a strong possibility. It was how she lost... in the most stupid way, choking.. not being able to buy a first serve... being an idiot on court... and playing like complete crap throughout. Having one week every now and then means nothing in the context of Ana's 2 years slump. When she follows Rome up with 2 or 3 solid tournaments, showing some mental consistency, then I'll believe it was not a fluke.

hellas719
May 13th, 2010, 04:54 AM
Ana :hug:
Don't worry. JJ is just jealous that you're hot and she's not and you have a slam and she's slamless ;)

bruce goose
May 13th, 2010, 05:10 AM
I do think she should go out there to get revenge the next time they play.. otherwise I'll be totally mad. :mad:Does Ana even have that mentality within her??I hope she's capable of having that personal pride...but I'm not sure that she has that...maybe you ladies can read her a lot better than I can.I don't see that attitude as much with female athletes as I do with guys;but the champions DEFINITELY have that desire within them

The 2nd Law
May 13th, 2010, 05:24 AM
WTF!


I'm glad I missed this piece of shit.

I was really warming to JJ, really warming to her as you can see by my sig, but that was so fucking uncalled for.
I want an RG rematch and I want a beatdown, I want Ana to absolutely embarass her. To be honest, one thing that annoyed me the most is reading that Ana didn't Ajde or fistpump as much. WHO GIVES A SHIT if JJ or anyone else doesn't like it?? She is allowing every little negative comment to get inside her head, no wonder she can't keep it together on court.

I hope you guys that suffered by watching this match can cheer up :) We have to show some mental strenght since Ana won't have any. Fingers and toes crossed for a good ten days of practice, a good RG draw, and some double bagel scorelines for Ana. I want to see her obliterate somebody, and I won't mind if it's JJ.

Nikkiri
May 13th, 2010, 06:18 AM
Serbia has lost Fed cup team today.

Hope so, sorry for Serbians. But I don't want to see Ana play with that girl ever again.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 13th, 2010, 08:54 AM
I'm not sure this matters much.. I mean.. she is doing everything backwards now.. she has even become a total pusher.

I don't like the pusher game and that's why I liked Ana in the first place. Her FH's in the early days were :lick:
Of course I didn't like it when she went blind for every shot but all this defensive play is so much worse. It's not her game and she's really bad at it. I can't believe she still doesn't get it.
Rome 2008 was bad, but at least the points she won her mostly very nice. Too many UEs's though.
Last week she played with more depth than in the last months. It sounds that she didn't do that yesterday at all. And also she left her serve in Rome.
I don't have a clue how her head will be at RG.
Her result for that tournament is so unpredictable. The tour level isn't great these days so a QF is certainly possible. An early defeat as well, but don't let it be against a nobody and certainly not a match with many wasted chances.

Nikkiri
May 13th, 2010, 09:29 AM
Just like old times :inlove: now Ana just needs to start winning again.

SOA_MC
May 13th, 2010, 09:32 AM
Give SWP a break this was a great typical SWP fighting win :( Remember she's still battling through another non confirmed injury which almost keeped her out of Fed Cup for about the 100th time :awww:

I agree with Serena who cares about Madrid :lol: Paris is where it's at :worship: and we can all be happy how much 2008 still hurts certain others

On a side note I think I'm no longer bothered by the dreaded "Pusher" talk around the site. If pusher means "not going for a kill every 2nd or 3rd ball"

Cp6uja
May 13th, 2010, 09:33 AM
I think that this post match "incident" make more attention than it deserve. From my point of view Jankovic make mistake with this kind of reaction, but still that is not even close so wrong and unacceptable like her mother do calling Ivanovic not enough patriotic couple weeks ago.

I still think that upcoming Roland Garros is destined to be peak of this season for Ana, not just another step in her comeback. Talking once again about her claycourt schedule, just like I expect Ana has good warm up period playing against 4 TOP10 players, one former TOP3 Petrova and red-clay red-hot MJMS. If she just follow her out of TOP50 rankings and instead Stuttgart, Rome and Madrid played for example Barcelona, Estoril and Warsaw - I don't see some benefits of more matches and more wins if toughest opponent is not even on Elena Vesnina level. Looking at current WTA tour I think that Ana actually don't need good luck next week at draw in Paris, just to escape bad luck and that means only to not be in same quarter (or at least not in same 1/8) with Justine Henin and Jelena Jankovic. That will be enough for me. Chances to face someone seeded during week 1 (before QF) at slams for unseeded player is just 13% and to face any of two seeded players before QF (Henin & JJ in this case) is 23%. Probability to be in same quarter is 25% and in same quarter with any of some two seeds which not belong same seeds group is 44%. Of rest of tour I will be happy if she escape during week one Stosur and Serena - and that's all ATM :shrug: Perfect RG MD scenario for Ana will be to stole early draw from some of high ranked in-slump (and bad claycourters) players like for example TOP4 Wozniacki.

If someone here is exciting about Ana Ivanovic at upcoming Roland Garros despite her current ranking (just for 2nd time plays unseeded at slams) and big problems in near past and just want to think positive about that, I recommend to visit my yesterdays GM thread Why former GS champions are so good (33-4) when backs there ranked out of TOP30? (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=408634) ;)

EDIT: BTW Ana status at RG'10 should not be called anymore "Baby Elephant" :p

Nikkiri
May 13th, 2010, 10:12 AM
Took me ages to figure out who the hell SWP was :sobbing:

Lord Choc Ice
May 13th, 2010, 10:13 AM
I've been a roll with bad-reps lately (3 of my last 4 lol). Surprisingly only 1 from the result thread. :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 13th, 2010, 01:46 PM
I think that this post match "incident" make more attention than it deserve. From my point of view Jankovic make mistake with this kind of reaction, but still that is not even close so wrong and unacceptable like her mother do calling Ivanovic not enough patriotic couple weeks ago.

I still think that upcoming Roland Garros is destined to be peak of this season for Ana, not just another step in her comeback. Talking once again about her claycourt schedule, just like I expect Ana has good warm up period playing against 4 TOP10 players, one former TOP3 Petrova and red-clay red-hot MJMS. If she just follow her out of TOP50 rankings and instead Stuttgart, Rome and Madrid played for example Barcelona, Estoril and Warsaw - I don't see some benefits of more matches and more wins if toughest opponent is not even on Elena Vesnina level. Looking at current WTA tour I think that Ana actually don't need good luck next week at draw in Paris, just to escape bad luck and that means only to not be in same quarter (or at least not in same 1/8) with Justine Henin and Jelena Jankovic. That will be enough for me. Chances to face someone seeded during week 1 (before QF) at slams for unseeded player is just 13% and to face any of two seeded players before QF (Henin & JJ in this case) is 23%. Probability to be in same quarter is 25% and in same quarter with any of some two seeds which not belong same seeds group is 44%. Of rest of tour I will be happy if she escape during week one Stosur and Serena - and that's all ATM :shrug: Perfect RG MD scenario for Ana will be to stole early draw from some of high ranked in-slump (and bad claycourters) players like for example TOP4 Wozniacki.

If someone here is exciting about Ana Ivanovic at upcoming Roland Garros despite her current ranking (just for 2nd time plays unseeded at slams) and big problems in near past and just want to think positive about that, I recommend to visit my yesterdays GM thread Why former GS champions are so good (33-4) when backs there ranked out of TOP30? (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=408634) ;)

EDIT: BTW Ana status at RG'10 should not be called anymore "Baby Elephant" :p

I actually must give you credit for this one, you were calling for this and supporting the schedule from the start, and it turns out you were right :) We didn't want you to be wrong, but four weeks ago who could have guessed Ana would win like that in Rome.

The 2nd Law
May 13th, 2010, 01:47 PM
I've been a roll with bad-reps lately (3 of my last 4 lol). Surprisingly only 1 from the result thread. :lol:

I have only ever been bad repped twice :lol:

Lord Choc Ice
May 13th, 2010, 01:59 PM
I have only ever been bad repped twice :lol:
That's 'cause you're a good boy. I like to stir the pot sometimes lol :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 13th, 2010, 02:04 PM
That's 'cause you're a good boy. I like to stir the pot sometimes lol :lol:

This is true, the only bad reps I got were from trolls :lol: I can't help that I'm nice :p

Lord Choc Ice
May 13th, 2010, 02:05 PM
This is true, the only bad reps I got were from trolls :lol: I can't help that I'm nice :p
I'm nice too, I'm just got a bit of a naughty streak. :lol:

InsideOut.
May 13th, 2010, 02:06 PM
I received a warning for my mass bad-repping in JJ's forum. :(

Nikkiri
May 13th, 2010, 02:08 PM
I received a warning for my mass bad-repping in JJ's forum. :(

And they call us sensitive :rolleyes:

Lord Choc Ice
May 13th, 2010, 02:09 PM
I received a warning for my mass bad-repping in JJ's forum. :(
I thought you just did it in the results thread silly. :p

InsideOut.
May 13th, 2010, 02:10 PM
What were you saying? :lol:

Simply because I 'went into the a player forum with the sole intention of bashing that player, or to bait or bad-rep her fans.'

The 2nd Law
May 13th, 2010, 02:12 PM
Simply because I 'went into the a player forum with the sole intention of bashing that player, or to bait or bad-rep her fans.'

Ummm wtf, that's bulshit. People do that all the time, just because it's GM doesn't mean it's not trolling! Dw about it man!

The 2nd Law
May 13th, 2010, 02:13 PM
I'm nice too, I'm just got a bit of a naughty streak. :lol:

Yeah you are nice, and I like your pot stirring GM threads :devil:

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 02:43 PM
This is a message for Jang. I was reading him in Ana's official forum. Ana did NOT! get 80 points from Madrid. She got only 5. When a player has a bye, if she loses the first match, she doesn't get second round points, she gets first round points. Nobody gets 80 points from losing their first match, even though it's a second round.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 02:47 PM
So.. I had a nice night of sleep.. had classes this morning...

But... I can't stop thinking this was the most stupid loss of Ana's carreer. She was never this stupid on court.. and that is saying much, because Ana is not a bright one out there. :o

I hope Heinz gets her to think and to realize how bad she choked this match. Maybe if she stops denying, she will also stop choking in the next few matches. :o People are saying she should forget this.. I really don't think she should forget.. she needs to remember, so she avoids doing what she did in this match. She needs to finally learn something from her defeats.. because she never seems to learn. :tape:

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 02:57 PM
I think that this post match "incident" make more attention than it deserve. From my point of view Jankovic make mistake with this kind of reaction, but still that is not even close so wrong and unacceptable like her mother do calling Ivanovic not enough patriotic couple weeks ago.

I still think that upcoming Roland Garros is destined to be peak of this season for Ana, not just another step in her comeback. Talking once again about her claycourt schedule, just like I expect Ana has good warm up period playing against 4 TOP10 players, one former TOP3 Petrova and red-clay red-hot MJMS. If she just follow her out of TOP50 rankings and instead Stuttgart, Rome and Madrid played for example Barcelona, Estoril and Warsaw - I don't see some benefits of more matches and more wins if toughest opponent is not even on Elena Vesnina level. Looking at current WTA tour I think that Ana actually don't need good luck next week at draw in Paris, just to escape bad luck and that means only to not be in same quarter (or at least not in same 1/8) with Justine Henin and Jelena Jankovic. That will be enough for me. Chances to face someone seeded during week 1 (before QF) at slams for unseeded player is just 13% and to face any of two seeded players before QF (Henin & JJ in this case) is 23%. Probability to be in same quarter is 25% and in same quarter with any of some two seeds which not belong same seeds group is 44%. Of rest of tour I will be happy if she escape during week one Stosur and Serena - and that's all ATM :shrug: Perfect RG MD scenario for Ana will be to stole early draw from some of high ranked in-slump (and bad claycourters) players like for example TOP4 Wozniacki.

If someone here is exciting about Ana Ivanovic at upcoming Roland Garros despite her current ranking (just for 2nd time plays unseeded at slams) and big problems in near past and just want to think positive about that, I recommend to visit my yesterdays GM thread Why former GS champions are so good (33-4) when backs there ranked out of TOP30? (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=408634) ;)

EDIT: BTW Ana status at RG'10 should not be called anymore "Baby Elephant" :p

I hope you get this right Cp6uja.. and Ana peaks for Roland Garros. I do wonder what you will say or what stat you will bring up if she loses in the first couple of rounds. :rolleyes: Because I remember you were sure she would find a way to be seeded, and she ended up faaaaar from that. :o

I was never against her playing Rome and Madrid. I was just hoping she could add another tournament in April.. a MM there, so she could get rhythm.. I honestly think that if she could have played a bit on clay before Stuttgart, she would not have lost to ARad there.. The choke against JJ is another story.. Ana was so stupid in that match, she probably had her head messed up because she was playing JJ of all people.

About Rome.. Thinking of form.. Ana beat an injured Vesnina, who had retired from her last tournament, and lost in the first round of all others on clay. Ana beat an injured Azarenka, who only didn't retire because she probably expected Ana to self destruct and hand her the match at some point. Then she played a sucky Dementieva, who just lost to Dulgheru. Then she played Petrova, who was SO awful she was botching high volleys into the net left and right. And who knows what could have happened if those matches got into a third set.. maybe she would have given up, like yesterday. Ana was a bit lucky there that all her opponents sucked big time and didn't put pressure on her. Maybe that's even why she served well.. nobody was putting pressure on her anyway, she could swing freely. Because both against MJMS and JJ, who were putting pressure on her serve, she got broken left and right. Until Ana follows that up with another good solid run, or 2.. or 3... then I won't take Rome into consideration. I do hope she has some Rome luck on her side come Roland Garros.. and gets lucky not only with the draw, but also with the opponents handing her matches.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 03:03 PM
I don't like the pusher game and that's why I liked Ana in the first place. Her FH's in the early days were :lick:
Of course I didn't like it when she went blind for every shot but all this defensive play is so much worse. It's not her game and she's really bad at it. I can't believe she still doesn't get it.
Rome 2008 was bad, but at least the points she won her mostly very nice. Too many UEs's though.
Last week she played with more depth than in the last months. It sounds that she didn't do that yesterday at all. And also she left her serve in Rome.
I don't have a clue how her head will be at RG.
Her result for that tournament is so unpredictable. The tour level isn't great these days so a QF is certainly possible. An early defeat as well, but don't let it be against a nobody and certainly not a match with many wasted chances.

I don't like the pusher game either. And Ana can't win matches like that.. she is not that good of a mover. I don't understand how she insists on being so passive, if when she is aggressive she is winning the points. I thought her BH had improved a bit with the matchs in Rome.. but dear God, was it club level or what yesterday? I don't think I've ever seen that many shanks and framed shots.

I'm thinking Ana is doing everything backwards... so maybe she will lose first round at RG and make a run at the USO? Strange things are happening...

I hope that when she loses it's just because the opponent was better.. not because she was a complete idiot and choked the match away. That worries me a lot more, and it makes a mark on the player. The more you choke (and Ana has done a lot of that in the past couple of years), the more difficult it is for you to win.. because the choke is always there and can show up at any time. :o

Jang87
May 13th, 2010, 03:09 PM
This is a message for Jang. I was reading him in Ana's official forum. Ana did NOT! get 80 points from Madrid. She got only 5. When a player has a bye, if she loses the first match, she doesn't get second round points, she gets first round points. Nobody gets 80 points from losing their first match, even though it's a second round.

Ok. Thank you for clearing that up.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 03:12 PM
Ok. Thank you for clearing that up.

;)

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 13th, 2010, 03:26 PM
I hope you get this right Cp6uja.. and Ana peaks for Roland Garros. I do wonder what you will say or what stat you will bring up if she loses in the first couple of rounds. :rolleyes: Because I remember you were sure she would find a way to be seeded, and she ended up faaaaar from that. :o

I was never against her playing Rome and Madrid. I was just hoping she could add another tournament in April.. a MM there, so she could get rhythm.. I honestly think that if she could have played a bit on clay before Stuttgart, she would not have lost to ARad there.. The choke against JJ is another story.. Ana was so stupid in that match, she probably had her head messed up because she was playing JJ of all people.

About Rome.. Thinking of form.. Ana beat an injured Vesnina, who had retired from her last tournament, and lost in the first round of all others on clay. Ana beat an injured Azarenka, who only didn't retire because she probably expected Ana to self destruct and hand her the match at some point. Then she played a sucky Dementieva, who just lost to Dulgheru. Then she played Petrova, who was SO awful she was botching high volleys into the net left and right. And who knows what could have happened if those matches got into a third set.. maybe she would have given up, like yesterday. Ana was a bit lucky there that all her opponents sucked big time and didn't put pressure on her. Maybe that's even why she served well.. nobody was putting pressure on her anyway, she could swing freely. Because both against MJMS and JJ, who were putting pressure on her serve, she got broken left and right. Until Ana follows that up with another good solid run, or 2.. or 3... then I won't take Rome into consideration. I do hope she has some Rome luck on her side come Roland Garros.. and gets lucky not only with the draw, but also with the opponents handing her matches.

That's a lot of what if's. What if Ana started holding serve in the 2nd set against JJ? Probably she won.
What if Petrova didn't waste the lead at Wimbledon in the 3rd or Vaidisova wasting 3 MP's. Or even the MP's JJ had in LA or the breaks she had in 3rd set SF RG 2008. No one complained about that.
Ok Ana didn't completely outplay everyone but not just won cause there opponents just sucked. Lena also put some pressure on Ana's serve, but at that time Ana's serve was a lot better.

The draw for RG is of course important and can be unlucky. I just have to keep the thought that she plays always well at RG. Even in 2006 while it was only R3.

Jang87
May 13th, 2010, 03:29 PM
Anas BH yesterday was atrocious. It amazes me that Ana, who is 1.86 m tall, can hit a ball so weakly. And while JJ tried to take advantage of Anas weaknesses (by hitting the ball to her BH) Ana did the opposite. She hit short balls without any pace over to JJs BH again and again. And she got burned again and again. She can't stay so passive all the time. She is not a natural pusher. Its ok for her to go into rallies, but my god, what about point construction? She used to do that so well.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 03:43 PM
That's a lot of what if's. What if Ana started holding serve in the 2nd set against JJ? Probably she won.
What if Petrova didn't waste the lead at Wimbledon in the 3rd or Vaidisova wasting 3 MP's. Or even the MP's JJ had in LA or the breaks she had in 3rd set SF RG 2008. No one complained about that.
Ok Ana didn't completely outplay everyone but not just won cause there opponents just sucked. Lena also put some pressure on Ana's serve, but at that time Ana's serve was a lot better.

That's my point Sjoerd! Those tight matches.. those are the ones that make a difference. And Ana used to be great in fighting and getting through them with wins. And those wins were crucial for her to do well and get to the top 10.. and get her slam.. and get the number 1. Now she chokes all of these matches away.. time and again.. doesn't even fight. It's those matches that she used to win and that she has now been losing that got her in the hell of a slump that she is now. It's her head.. and that's a lot more difficult to fix than anything in her game.

About Rome.. I think she had great help from her opponents. Either way.. she had great help from JJ yesterday as well, but she didn't take it. So I hope she does get opponents handing her matches.. but mostly, that she takes it.. takes her chances. These chokes and matches of huge missed opportunities kill her game and her spirit more than anything. Those are the ones that got her where she is now, in a 2 year slump.

The draw for RG is of course important and can be unlucky. I just have to keep the thought that she plays always well at RG. Even in 2006 while it was only R3.

Ana also always played well in Indian Wells.. and this year it was probably her worst tournament. :o

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Anas BH yesterday was atrocious. It amazes me that Ana, who is 1.86 m tall, can hit a ball so weakly. And while JJ tried to take advantage of Anas weaknesses (by hitting the ball to her BH) Ana did the opposite. She hit short balls without any pace over to JJs BH again and again. And she got burned again and again. She can't stay so passive all the time. She is not a natural pusher. Its ok for her to go into rallies, but my god, what about point construction? She used to do that so well.

Yeah yeah.. everything yesterday sucked.. but the BH.. oh God.. :tape: It might have been worse than the serve.. and that is saying a lot.

The worse was her head.. I still can't believe she was complaining left and right in the middle of the second set, while leading.. How could she not see that acting like that she was losing focus? :o

Lord Choc Ice
May 13th, 2010, 04:06 PM
Reckon you could beat Ana right now Izzy? :p

Anyway my poor Nando played a bit like Ana just before, except he had a bit of an injury as an excuse. But God was it awful. Awful for my faves lately. In the second set pretty much every Nando shot was an error, just like Ana third set against JJ. :cuckoo: Don't get me started on Elena and Maria. Venus is doing OK I suppose.

Sor.ana
May 13th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Reckon you could beat Ana right now Izzy? :p

Anyway my poor Nando played a bit like Ana just before, except he had a bit of an injury as an excuse. But God was it awful. Awful for my faves lately. In the second set pretty much every Nando shot was an error, just like Ana third set against JJ. :cuckoo: Don't get me started on Elena and Maria. Venus is doing OK I suppose.

Disapointed as you about Nando :sobbing:. And awful for almost all my faves by this time.
Anyway, still 4 faves in Madrid, I keep hoping for a win :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 04:10 PM
I want Madrid to be over. BYE Madrid.. I'm ready for RG...

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Reckon you could beat Ana right now Izzy? :p

Anyway my poor Nando played a bit like Ana just before, except he had a bit of an injury as an excuse. But God was it awful. Awful for my faves lately. In the second set pretty much every Nando shot was an error, just like Ana third set against JJ. :cuckoo: Don't get me started on Elena and Maria. Venus is doing OK I suppose.

:lol:

If she played like the third set yesterday, then yes.. I would beat Ana! :lol::spit:

Didn't watch Nando.. I got into such a mad mood that I'm done with tennis for a week. :mad:

Sor.ana
May 13th, 2010, 04:11 PM
I want Madrid to be over. BYE Madrid.. I'm ready for RG...

I approve. Madrid starts so badly, and it got worse when Ana lost her match...

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 13th, 2010, 04:12 PM
Ana also always played well in Indian Wells.. and this year it was probably her worst tournament. :o

Match against Molik was nice, but I was down for 2 days when she lost to Bammer. I can't call that a good tournament.
And I actually meant playing well, not looking at results. Maybe the SF of 2009 was good but certainly not the rest.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 04:13 PM
I approve. Madrid starts so badly, and it got worse when Ana lost her match...

Ana losing is not even that bad.. I mean.. she has lost more than won for the past year.. :shrug:

The problem is how she lost.. SO stupid.. and to whom.. :tape:

And honestly.. the whole tournament sucks... I hope Na Li or Petkovic or anyone random wins it.. :o

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 04:14 PM
Match against Molik was nice, but I was down for 2 days when she lost to Bammer. I can't call that a good tournament.
And I actually meant playing well, not looking at results. Maybe the SF of 2009 was good but certainly not the rest.

Final of 2009.. well.. if we look at 2009 as a whole it was one of her best tournaments.. :tape:

If you think like this about IW 2006, how do you say you liked RG 2006? Her loss against Myskina was ugly to say the least.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 13th, 2010, 04:21 PM
Final of 2009.. well.. if we look at 2009 as a whole it was one of her best tournaments.. :tape:

If you think like this about IW 2006, how do you say you liked RG 2006? Her loss against Myskina was ugly to say the least.

That loss kinda is an exception, but that's at least against a good player. The first 2 rounds were good, especially againt Stosur.
I won't count the loss against Petrova as a bad loss. First RG and already a QF.
Last RG was certainly better than IW, even with the loss against Azarenka. She also wasn't 100% fit that day.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 04:25 PM
That loss kinda is an exception, but that's at least against a good player. The first 2 rounds were good, especially againt Stosur.
I won't count the loss against Petrova as a bad loss. First RG and already a QF.
Last RG was certainly better than IW, even with the loss against Azarenka. She also wasn't 100% fit that day.

I think the fact that she played well in the past doesn't mean she will play well this year.. it has been a weird year.

But I hope she does play great and gets a great result. I get completely crushed when Ana loses in RG. Together with the AO, it's my favorite slam. I really couldn't care less about the USO or Wimbledon.. but RG and AO are special to me. So when Ana does well there, I'm happier than when she does well anywhere else. Not that I wouldn't be so happy if Ana got far in either USO or W.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 13th, 2010, 04:38 PM
I think the fact that she played well in the past doesn't mean she will play well this year.. it has been a weird year.

But I hope she does play great and gets a great result. I get completely crushed when Ana loses in RG. Together with the AO, it's my favorite slam. I really couldn't care less about the USO or Wimbledon.. but RG and AO are special to me. So when Ana does well there, I'm happier than when she does well anywhere else. Not that I wouldn't be so happy if Ana got far in either USO or W.

Of course it says nothing. I just have my hope on this. It's not that she gets another head that she can only use at RG.

Most of the matches Ana played there were good and it's the slam she won. That can her give her that little extra.
Which shouldn't be necessary cause you always have to try to make the best of it. Wouldn't mind though if she saves the best for the slams, but that's not always the case.

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Of course it says nothing. I just have my hope on this. It's not that she gets another head that she can only use at RG.

Most of the matches Ana played there were good and it's the slam she won. That can her give her that little extra.
Which shouldn't be necessary cause you always have to try to make the best of it. Wouldn't mind though if she saves the best for the slams, but that's not always the case.

I think more than anything Ana needs a good result there... she needs it. I've always thought she worked on postive reinforcement.. the disappointments never fire her up, only bring her down.. So she needs to have a good result in RG, see that she is getting out of the hole.

But I've been disappointed with her lack of fight lately.. she really has not been fighting when things are not there for her. All she does is complain.. I'm glad there is no coaching on grand slams, because then she won't be calling Heinz to vent.. she will have to figure it out on her own. All their time outs were so negative.. I don't think she won many games any time she called him. She whines and doesn't listen. I can only hope since it's RG she will give her all and fight hard. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 04:56 PM
Wow.. Matt Cronin on twitter:

TennisReporters

KA-BOOM: Just heard from a reliable source that Martina Hingis is planning another comeback, starting at US summer hardcourts. 5 minutes ago via web

Another come back?

Jang87
May 13th, 2010, 05:04 PM
Meh. These comebacks are becoming tiresome. I don't think Hingis will do as well as Kim/Justine though.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 13th, 2010, 05:32 PM
Wow.. Matt Cronin on twitter:



Another come back?

Her other comeback wasn't as good as many hoped for.
Now it's another few years later, so it won't have any success.

I would be surprised if she comes back.

InsideOut.
May 13th, 2010, 05:37 PM
And Hingis will be ranked higher than Ana after three tournaments back, again. Just like Kim and Justine.

Next. :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 13th, 2010, 05:49 PM
And Hingis will be ranked higher than Ana after three tournaments back, again. Just like Kim and Justine.

Next. :rolleyes:

:sobbing:

bruce goose
May 13th, 2010, 06:27 PM
None of them have been what you'd call earth-shattering press statements,but the WTA webpage has done a pretty amateurish,laughable job of uploading simple audio clips...doesn't exactly reflect well on their organization:p.Still,I overcame my senility:lol: and figured that the easiest way to catch what we want was by simply going to the individual players' websites which would include anything significant that was said during pressers....Stosur's page isn't as flashy as Ana's tries to be,yet she seems to evoke lots of loyalty....I guess her fans admire her for her strong,less-famous comeback which has carried her into the Top 10.I won't be the least bit surprised if she knocks off Venus...that would actually be a big win for Vee on clay,IMO

The 2nd Law
May 14th, 2010, 04:32 AM
For the sake of my username, RG had better be an awesome tourney for Ana :rolleyes:

The 2nd Law
May 14th, 2010, 04:37 AM
As for Madrid, I really want Stosur to win. She's doing wonders for Aussie tennis :D

Lord Choc Ice
May 14th, 2010, 06:54 AM
As for Madrid, I really want Stosur to win. She's doing wonders for Aussie tennis :D
No way, Venus please. :p The Stosur hype is getting sickening. :lol:

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 10:40 AM
The biggest Ana fan out there... I mean.. Sofia Arvidsson strikes again.. :lol: Her last diary has a few silly tid bits on her Ana KADiness:

Played a popcorn game last night in Madrid. Ivanovic-Jankovic. Two players who can be said is a bit different, and not best friends. Need not enough to say who I cheered on, but unfortunately, won the second ...


Promised you come with photos. Try it with some from Miami-contest ...

http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/files/2010/05/p3210009-300x225.jpg

Larsa, Damian (Anas fitness coach) and photographer (I) is in South Beach, waiting for Ana to come. We see the car. Is it Ana? What has she done now ... ....?

http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/files/2010/05/p3210010-300x225.jpg

Not at all, then we see. Of course Ana is in style ... ..

http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/files/2010/05/p3210011-300x225.jpg

But we were wrong again. Ana and her mother came along behind us. This I could not capture images of the batteries ran out.

http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/

:spit:

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 10:41 AM
As for Madrid, I really want Stosur to win. She's doing wonders for Aussie tennis :D

You know? I would totally be ok with Stosur winning. She is playing some great tennis lately.. and after all she went through she totally deserves the results. :)

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 10:43 AM
For the sake of my username, RG had better be an awesome tourney for Ana :rolleyes:

Yes... it's like Cp6uja says.. since Ana started out, the highlight of her good years was always RG. Whenever that was not the highlight, she had a pretty crappy year. So she better have a great RG.. and by that I mean QF or better.. otherwise we might as well go into Ana 2011'ovic mode. :sobbing:

Lord Choc Ice
May 14th, 2010, 10:44 AM
The biggest Ana fan out there... I mean.. Sofia Arvidsson strikes again.. :lol: Her last diary has a few silly tid bits on her Ana KADiness:





http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/

:spit:
That's so cute. :happy:

Cp6uja
May 14th, 2010, 11:09 AM
About Rome.. Thinking of form.. Ana beat an injured Vesnina, who had retired from her last tournament, and lost in the first round of all others on clay. Ana beat an injured Azarenka, who only didn't retire because she probably expected Ana to self destruct and hand her the match at some point. Then she played a sucky Dementieva, who just lost to Dulgheru. Then she played Petrova, who was SO awful she was botching high volleys into the net left and right. And who knows what could have happened if those matches got into a third set.. maybe she would have given up, like yesterday. Ana was a bit lucky there that all her opponents sucked big time and didn't put pressure on her. Maybe that's even why she served well.. nobody was putting pressure on her anyway, she could swing freely. Because both against MJMS and JJ, who were putting pressure on her serve, she got broken left and right. Until Ana follows that up with another good solid run, or 2.. or 3... then I won't take Rome into consideration. I do hope she has some Rome luck on her side come Roland Garros.. and gets lucky not only with the draw, but also with the opponents handing her matches.This is not fair analysis of Ana's Rome improvement. She not lose any set in all of her 4 wins there, and when she plying good at clay almost all her opponents looks hopeless in past, so Rome is not exception. When Ana hired Heinz I'm expected her big improvement in FH and serve, and that is happen, but very unexpected for me, since Rome I see her biggest improvement in her return games :eek: (same thing she shows vs Jankovic before gave up after 6-4 4-4). Bad day against Sevastova, brainless tactics vs MJMS and pathetic finish vs JJ shows us that she is mentally still very vulnerable (and like we knows when she is enough self-destructive anyone can beat her), but seems that some of her best shots is close to back.
Yes... it's like Cp6uja says.. since Ana started out, the highlight of her good years was always RG. Whenever that was not the highlight, she had a pretty crappy year. So she better have a great RG.. and by that I mean QF or better.. otherwise we might as well go into Ana 2011'ovic mode. :sobbing:If her improvement in return area continued (she is actually always good in attacking opponents 2nd serve, but have weak/mediocre 1st serve return), her chances will grow at all other slams, but I'm still with my statement that in just next three weeks we will be able to say some fundamental things about this 2010 Ivanovic's season, and that she has (much) better chances at RG for some notable result playing 80% ready than 100 days later playing 100% back and ready at US Open.

The 2nd Law
May 14th, 2010, 12:01 PM
Someone should tell Sofia via twitter to get an account on TF and come and post in Anapolis :lol: :hearts:


I'll make a deal with you, following on from Izzy and Cp6uja's endorsements on just how important this RG will be for Ana's season: If Ana gets to the QF or better, I will keep my username, but if she doesn't I will change it to something completely different :lol:

jelenacg
May 14th, 2010, 12:34 PM
The biggest Ana fan out there... I mean.. Sofia Arvidsson strikes again.. :lol: Her last diary has a few silly tid bits on her Ana KADiness:


http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/

:spit:

OMG :lol::lol:
Does she have a twitter account ? We should thank her somewhere for all the Ana KADiness :lol:
Sofia :hug:

The 2nd Law
May 14th, 2010, 02:05 PM
Well, Venus just ruined the tournament for me now :lol: She served way too well for Sam today, when Venus serves like that only Serena can win.

I still like Vee though, if she and Jelena make the final then maybe the tournament is saved for me. Looking towards RG with both anticipation and weariness otherwise.

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 03:53 PM
OMG :lol::lol:
Does she have a twitter account ? We should thank her somewhere for all the Ana KADiness :lol:
Sofia :hug:

I don't think she has a twitter.. But we should definitely find a way to thank her for liking Ana so much. It's adorable really.

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 03:53 PM
Well, Venus just ruined the tournament for me now :lol: She served way too well for Sam today, when Venus serves like that only Serena can win.

I still like Vee though, if she and Jelena make the final then maybe the tournament is saved for me. Looking towards RG with both anticipation and weariness otherwise.

I'll just say one thing.. If Venus makes the final, she better serve like a giant and win it. :mad:

Davodus
May 14th, 2010, 03:59 PM
I'll just say one thing.. If Venus makes the final, she better serve like a giant and win it. :mad:

Jankovic has to get through Safarova first :armed:

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 04:03 PM
This is for Jang again.. I don't want to write on Ana's oficial web.. :o

The Unicef Open does NOT count towards the Wimbledon seedings. It finishes saturday and the draw is done the previous friday. So Ana would need a SF in RG to be seeded for Wimbledon. Maybe a QF would do, but then she would depend on other players results.

Bottom line.. Ana most probably won't be seeded for Wimbledon either. She lost her chance being an idiot headcase choker in Madrid. :o

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 04:03 PM
Jankovic has to get through Safarova first :armed:

She has to get through Rezai first actually.. :lol:

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 04:06 PM
Kim withdrew from RG.. Such a pity.. I hate these freak injuries. :mad:

InsideOut.
May 14th, 2010, 04:11 PM
I hope Rezai takes Jankovic to the cleaners. Rezai-Safarova ballbash semifinal would be so much fun :dance:

Davodus
May 14th, 2010, 04:20 PM
She has to get through Rezai first actually.. :lol:

Yeah :lol: If Lucie plays Jankovic, I'm gonna be so fired up :lol: I can't handle her beating my 2 faves in the one tournament.

Polikarpov
May 14th, 2010, 05:44 PM
https://twitter.com/TennisReporters

Matt Cronin: Friends of Ana Ivanovic allege that Jankovic dropped some choice swear words Ana's way after beating her in Madrid match.

Drama. :lol:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 14th, 2010, 05:49 PM
Some years ago I kinda thought I was the only one here that didn't like JJ.
Now I'm full of support :lol:
Haven't seen Rezai play this week, but beat Henin and didn't have so much trouble with Petkovic for the first 1,5 set. If she doesn't succeed today then I really hope for Lucie. She can be brilliant sometimes and lately she has some nice results.

Jang87
May 14th, 2010, 05:50 PM
Someone should tweet this to JJ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_06-vokVgM

:D.

Sor.ana
May 14th, 2010, 06:50 PM
Don't know why, but I think Ana will play S.Arvidsson once again :lol:. Would be better for her than Serena or Justine

spiritedenergy
May 14th, 2010, 08:19 PM
https://twitter.com/TennisReporters

Matt Cronin: Friends of Ana Ivanovic allege that Jankovic dropped some choice swear words Ana's way after beating her in Madrid match.

Drama. :lol:

what? what swear words did she say? it was probably in serbian because she was talking in serbian at that point:confused:

Curtos07
May 14th, 2010, 08:35 PM
The biggest Ana fan out there... I mean.. Sofia Arvidsson strikes again.. :lol: Her last diary has a few silly tid bits on her Ana KADiness:





http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/

:spit:

:lol: That is so cute. They seem to be really close friends. I would love to see them play doubles with each other. :)

gaviotabr
May 14th, 2010, 08:53 PM
:lol: That is so cute. They seem to be really close friends. I would love to see them play doubles with each other. :)

I kind of have the feeling Sofia watches Ana matches and suffers as much as we do! :lol:

Curtos07
May 14th, 2010, 08:59 PM
I kind of have the feeling Sofia watches Ana matches and suffers as much as we do! :lol:

:lol: I wouldn't doubt it. Maybe if Ana draws her at RG, Sofia will let Ana win. :lol:

SOA_MC
May 14th, 2010, 09:13 PM
what? what swear words did she say? it was probably in serbian because she was talking in serbian at that point:confused:

I am hearing she said "suck my cock" in Serbian allegedly.

Hope some reporters ask her about this I won't say anything further :o

spiritedenergy
May 14th, 2010, 09:26 PM
I am hearing she said "suck my cock" in Serbian allegedly.

Hope some reporters ask her about this I won't say anything further :o

:spit: are you kidding?:tape:

SOA_MC
May 14th, 2010, 09:41 PM
:spit: are you kidding?:tape:

No not kidding :help: It's what some serbs are saying on twitter.

Personally I don't care enough to get even slighty emotional. I am done with WTA from now on just going to follow ATP. Diva bullshit like this has lost me as viewer.

bruce goose
May 14th, 2010, 09:41 PM
I am hearing she said "suck my cock" in Serbian allegedly.

Hope some reporters ask her about this I won't say anything further :oWell,unless Jelena is hiding some MAJOR secret from us,THAT would be anatomically impossible...and very strange for a woman to say:lol:.I've never heard any gringas or mexicanas use those words while they were swearing...and that includes gals who use lots of profanity.Maybe Serbians have some bizarre profanity that doesn't make sense:lol:

spiritedenergy
May 14th, 2010, 10:19 PM
No not kidding :help: It's what some serbs are saying on twitter.

Personally I don't care enough to get even slighty emotional. I am done with WTA from now on just going to follow ATP. Diva bullshit like this has lost me as viewer.

why stop following the WTA for this?:confused: Not all the players are divas, at least not Ana:o

RANT ON/
I really wonder why she said that, she comes out as fake (because she said she didn't think about Ana on the other side) and classless. I guess she took it from her mother:tape: She can be rich as she wants but she's showing her trailer park trash side now, that doesn't change with money and plastic surgeries:tape:
RANT OVER/

jelenacg
May 14th, 2010, 11:02 PM
Well,unless Jelena is hiding some MAJOR secret from us,THAT would be anatomically impossible...and very strange for a woman to say:lol:.I've never heard any gringas or mexicanas use those words while they were swearing...and that includes gals who use lots of profanity.Maybe Serbians have some bizarre profanity that doesn't make sense:lol:

Actually we do :spit:
Women and men use same swear words here so what she said it`s pretty normal to us :lol:
I don`t want to brag but we are very good in swearing :rolls:

bruce goose
May 14th, 2010, 11:23 PM
Actually we do :spit:
Women and men use same swear words here so what she said it`s pretty normal to us :lol:
I don`t want to brag but we are very good in swearing :rolls:Well,those are VERY strange words coming from a woman.Do Serbian MEN say,'Lick my p-ssy'?:lol:.Thanks for clearing that up....Wonder if Ana is as talented as her fellow Serbs in this area;).Spanish is a little strange,in one sense,b/c the worst insults aren't actually profane...yet are considered more offensive than profanity

jelenacg
May 14th, 2010, 11:38 PM
Well,those are VERY strange words coming from a woman.Do Serbian MEN say,'Lick my p-ssy'?:lol:.Thanks for clearing that up....Wonder if Ana is as talented as her fellow Serbs in this area;).Spanish is a little strange,in one sense,b/c the worst insults aren't actually profane...yet are considered more offensive than profanity

Ana is talented :lol: she just doesn`t use that talent very often on court :p
I didn`t watch that video but i`m sure JJ didn`t say `my...`
Serbian men don`t use that kind of swearing :lol: but we use some swearing similar to that.Ana is fond of that one :lol: :lol:

Cp6uja
May 15th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Talking about that imitation incident I also heard that very suspicious theory that according to her lips word which Jankovic say when imitate Ana is Serbian word which means "suck", but its very hard to read from that angle (of camera) and I really doubt in that, because she look her own box (with her mother) when fistpumped and says some short word... so it will be really too much for anybody to say "SUCK" just one meter in front of TV camera when watching own mother in face :shrug:

doni1212
May 15th, 2010, 01:54 AM
Someone should tweet this to JJ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_06-vokVgM

:D.

I love that vid sooooo much! I miss that!!

I am hearing she said "suck my cock" in Serbian allegedly.

Hope some reporters ask her about this I won't say anything further :o

:o :speakles:

Well,those are VERY strange words coming from a woman.Do Serbian MEN say,'Lick my p-ssy'?:lol:.Thanks for clearing that up....Wonder if Ana is as talented as her fellow Serbs in this area;).Spanish is a little strange,in one sense,b/c the worst insults aren't actually profane...yet are considered more offensive than profanity

:rolls: :haha: :rolls:

Lord Choc Ice
May 15th, 2010, 05:44 AM
Sincere apologies to anyone I've pissed off (you know who you are). I tend to annoy me online friends sometimes because in real life I'm very lonely. I'll stop now...

Tennis90
May 15th, 2010, 09:10 AM
Ahhh....family....there you are,finally :D

The way Sofia Arvidsson likes Ana is soooo cute :)

azdaja
May 15th, 2010, 11:46 AM
Well,unless Jelena is hiding some MAJOR secret from us,THAT would be anatomically impossible...and very strange for a woman to say:lol:.I've never heard any gringas or mexicanas use those words while they were swearing...and that includes gals who use lots of profanity.Maybe Serbians have some bizarre profanity that doesn't make sense:lol:
in serbian you don't use "my" in front of body parts in phrases of this kind, so she probably said (if she did) something that could be translated as "suck a dick". i don't know what to make of it. i know people swear a lot in serbian (and i'm pretty sure even ana does it too), but i didn't really grow up with the language so i don't know how offensive something is or not. when i hear serbian people i always think they swear too much, though :tape: there is a website on the internet with swearing in different languages with translations to english and serbian, bosnian and croatian (the same language basically) were all in the top 10 of a user-rated list.

bruce goose
May 15th, 2010, 04:11 PM
in serbian you don't use "my" in front of body parts in phrases of this kind, so she probably said (if she did) something that could be translated as "suck a dick". i don't know what to make of it. i know people swear a lot in serbian (and i'm pretty sure even ana does it too), but i didn't really grow up with the language so i don't know how offensive something is or not. when i hear serbian people i always think they swear too much, though :tape: there is a website on the internet with swearing in different languages with translations to english and serbian, bosnian and croatian (the same language basically) were all in the top 10 of a user-rated list.Thanks for explaining,Azdaja...and the version you gave makes a lot more sense...and is pretty much the same as other languages in that respect.Still,it would sound strange to me if I heard Ana say,in Spanish or English,"Go f--k yourself!":lol:

Tennis90
May 15th, 2010, 04:33 PM
Actually if she really did say that it was something like 'pu*i'.It basically means the same,suck it.
I have heard Ana swear just once,I don't know where it was actually,maybe Rome or RG..a few years ago,I know it was clay. :)
However JJ really lost many of her supporters by doing that and lately that attitude she's showing on court
is only making her look lame.

DownTheLine21
May 15th, 2010, 05:21 PM
Since when has Rezai been able to play lights out tennis for more than a match or two in a row? She's been consistently destroying the ball (and not missing) this week.

Sor.ana
May 15th, 2010, 05:31 PM
Someone should tweet this to JJ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_06-vokVgM

:D.

:lol:.



The way Sofia Arvidsson likes Ana is soooo cute :)

Why does Sofia said about Ana ? Cuz I like her too, so I'm happy when my faves get on well together :)

azdaja
May 15th, 2010, 07:30 PM
Thanks for explaining,Azdaja...and the version you gave makes a lot more sense...and is pretty much the same as other languages in that respect.Still,it would sound strange to me if I heard Ana say,in Spanish or English,"Go f--k yourself!":lol:
basically tha allegation is that jj said what kobe bryant says in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGiI1vXndqk&NR=1

serbia exports a lot of basketball players to the nba and they seem to teach their team mates stuff :p

edit: and just as an example of how much people can swear in serbian, darko milicic after the game against greece at the eurobasket 2007 (with english subtitles) :tape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3j363HWQM&feature=related

Mixo
May 15th, 2010, 07:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3j363HWQM&feature=related

Oooh I remember it, that was amazing.

:worship: Darko swearing skills

azdaja
May 15th, 2010, 07:47 PM
it was hilarious :lol: i actually forgot about it, but saw the link to "related videos" on youtube when i found the kobe bryant video. definitely difficult to top.

Mixo
May 15th, 2010, 07:56 PM
it was hilarious :lol: i actually forgot about it, but saw the link to "related videos" on youtube when i found the kobe bryant video. definitely difficult to top.

Hahah, seriously, I've never seen anyone swearing that strong in my life :lol: It's ridicolous

Tennis90
May 15th, 2010, 08:09 PM
:lol:.




Why does Sofia said about Ana ? Cuz I like her too, so I'm happy when my faves get on well together :)

Well she mentions Ana in her 'diary-entries' quite often really.This time she mentioned watching Ana-JJ match and cheering for Ana of course :) Usually she writes how friendly and nice Ana is.I remember she wrote about that one book Ana recommended to her so Sofia really wanted to read it.So,after that they met each other the same day and Ana gave her the copy she bought for her while checking the bookstores downtown.Something like that ;)
Sofia was absolutely impressed by Ana so since then she often writes about her.

bruce goose
May 15th, 2010, 10:49 PM
basically tha allegation is that jj said what kobe bryant says in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGiI1vXndqk&NR=1

serbia exports a lot of basketball players to the nba and they seem to teach their team mates stuff :p

edit: and just as an example of how much people can swear in serbian, darko milicic after the game against greece at the eurobasket 2007 (with english subtitles) :tape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3j363HWQM&feature=related:lol:That's some serious profanity,Azdaja!I used to work in the U.S. prisons,and even the convicts don't usually swear THAT much....They'll use profanity every two sentences...unlike Darko's every two WORDS:lol:....Part of that was pretty juvenile and classless on Darko's part.I don't think that ANA:angel: would curse like that even if JJ spit in her face

azdaja
May 15th, 2010, 11:19 PM
:lol:That's some serious profanity,Azdaja!I used to work in the U.S. prisons,and even the convicts don't usually swear THAT much....They'll use profanity every two sentences...unlike Darko's every two WORDS:lol:....Part of that was pretty juvenile and classless on Darko's part.I don't think that ANA:angel: would curse like that even if JJ spit in her face
yeah, but serbian language is like that. people use profanity even if they don't mean anything bad. it's so weird.

bruce goose
May 15th, 2010, 11:31 PM
yeah, but serbian language is like that. people use profanity even if they don't mean anything bad. it's so weird.Yeah,but I'd say that Darko DID mean it in a bad way;even the Serbian reporters asked him to calm down.It's classless to joke about sodomizing someone's little sister;I wouldn't even do that to my worst enemy.I might crack HIS skull open 'til he bled to death but I'd leave his baby sis alone.

I understand the part you meant about Serbian language in general,though,cuz Mexican Spanish is similar.You can ask Mixo if they talk like this in Spain but,here in the North of my country,friends call each other 'cabron' when they're drinking together...just like black Americans often call each other 'n--ger'(blocked word at TF)in the same circumstances.However,if you're a complete stranger...and you walk up to someone at a bar in a rough neighborhood and call him 'cabron'...then you might be having the coroner pull a knife out of your guts......I'll say again.....I don't picture Ana talking like Darko did;)

Lord Choc Ice
May 15th, 2010, 11:34 PM
The thing is did JJ mean it in a bad way towards Ana or not? :confused:

azdaja
May 15th, 2010, 11:43 PM
Yeah,but I'd say that Darko DID mean it in a bad way;even the Serbian reporters asked him to calm down.It's classless to joke about sodomizing someone's little sister;
well, the translation was wrong about the "kid daughter" or so, because as the comments say he was just saying "daughter". and i don't think he was talking about sodomizing, just regular sex :tape: :lol:

and i know spanish can be quite nasty in this regard, but serbian is a level above/below it in this regard :tape: and no, i don't think many people would swear as much as darko did here (well, i hope). however, i think literal translations sound worse than what it really means. people are euqually mean to each other in every language, i think :lol:

The thing is did JJ mean it in a bad way towards Ana or not? :confused:
only experts in serbian language will be able to tell, i guess. i am curious about this as well.

jelenacg
May 15th, 2010, 11:55 PM
The thing is did JJ mean it in a bad way towards Ana or not? :confused:

If JJ said what we think she said ,it can only be meant in a bad way :lol:
That swearing is never used in a good way
well, the translation was wrong about the "kid daughter" or so, because as the comments say he was just saying "daughter". and i don't think he was talking about sodomizing, just regular sex :tape: :lol:

and i know spanish can be quite nasty in this regard, but serbian is a level above/below it in this regard :tape: and no, i don't think many people would swear as much as darko did here (well, i hope). however, i think literal translations sound worse than what it really means. people are euqually mean to each other in every language, i think :lol:

only experts in serbian language will be able to tell, i guess. i am curious about this as well.

You are right about that ,he didn`t say anything about sodomizing a child :tape:
That video is epic :lol::worship:

bruce goose
May 15th, 2010, 11:56 PM
and i know spanish can be quite nasty in this regard, but serbian is a level above/below it in this regard :tape: and no, i don't think many people would swear as much as darko did here (well, i hope). however, i think literal translations sound worse than what it really means. people are euqually mean to each other in every language, i think :lol:If you've studied Spanish at all...which it seems you might have...then you'll know that the worst insults don't even include profanity...yet they're considered more offensive.I wonder how much sweet Ana has learned about that in her studies:lol:.If she tried to shorten,"?Tu lavabo esta tapado?" to simply "?Eres tapado?"...she might blush at the angry reaction she got:p...whereas,in English,no one would misunderstand you

bruce goose
May 15th, 2010, 11:59 PM
If JJ said what we think she said ,it can only be meant in a bad way :lol:
That swearing is never used in a good way


You are right about that ,he didn`t say anything about sodomizing a child :tape:
That video is epic :lol::worship:That may have been my mistake,Jelena;I didn't memorize Darko's poetic discourse...and I thought he said that he'd f--k her in the ass....If he didn't say that,then I simply had a false recollection:angel:

azdaja
May 16th, 2010, 12:20 AM
If you've studied Spanish at all...which it seems you might have...then you'll know that the worst insults don't even include profanity...yet they're considered more offensive.
it's probably the same in every language. something that may look harmless may be very offensive. on the other hand something at darko's level could be just meh :lol:

yeah, i know plenty of spanish stuff. i actually think there are similarities to serbian. well, south europeans must have similarities, no? ;)

Joana
May 16th, 2010, 12:30 AM
in serbian you don't use "my" in front of body parts in phrases of this kind, so she probably said (if she did) something that could be translated as "suck a dick".

You do, actually. "Popušiš mi kurac" :tape: is very commonly used, even women say it, although it doesn't make much sense in that case. Although, JJ simply said "Suck it".

It's weird with profanities in Serbian. For example, like Jelena said last week in Rome, "I fuck your mother in the pussy" - it sounds awful in English, but in Serbian it's really not as bad. It can even be totally impersonal and no mothers have to be involved. It's something (I'd tone it down a bit though) I can say when my computer is acting up, for example. :o

azdaja
May 16th, 2010, 12:39 AM
You do, actually. "Popušiš mi kurac" :tape: is very commonly used, even women say it, although it doesn't make much sense in that case. Although, JJ simply said "Suck it".

It's weird with profanities in Serbian. For example, like Jelena said last week in Rome, "I fuck your mother in the pussy" - it sounds awful in English, but in Serbian it's really not as bad. It can even be totally impersonal and no mothers have to be involved. It's something (I'd tone it down a bit though) I can say when my computer is acting up, for example. :o
i know. my father swears so much, it really bothers me :sobbing: i'm just totally dissorientated about what is really offensive and what not :unsure:

jelenacg
May 16th, 2010, 12:42 AM
You do, actually. "Popušiš mi kurac" :tape: is very commonly used, even women say it, although it doesn't make much sense in that case. Although, JJ simply said "Suck it".

It's weird with profanities in Serbian. For example, like Jelena said last week in Rome, "I fuck your mother in the pussy" - it sounds awful in English, but in Serbian it's really not as bad. It can even be totally impersonal and no mothers have to be involved. It's something (I'd tone it down a bit though) I can say when my computer is acting up, for example. :o

:spit:
Very good explanation :lol:
I love how this thread turned out to be explanation for Serbian swearing
Thank you JJ :rolleyes:

bruce goose
May 16th, 2010, 01:06 AM
yeah, i know plenty of spanish stuff. i actually think there are similarities to serbian. well, south europeans must have similarities, no? ;)Well,I'm not sure,Azdaja;Ana's Spanish is pretty crappy when you consider that she had to do her Madrid promo in English.After playing tournaments in Spanish-speaking countries for almost 10 years,she SHOULD know the basic words that are affiliated with a tennis tournament....Another Ana fan suggested to me that our gal was just shy from being out of practice but,like I said,they wouldn't expect her to give any complicated oratory...nor would they give her any challenging questions knowing that it wasn't her native language....

It kinda makes me wonder how shallow her relationship with Nando was...cuz listening comprehension is the most difficult aspect of learning a language...so she couldn't exactly understand anything complex that he might've said.....not that Nando is what you'd call a complex person:lol::lol::lol:.....The same with Nadal.As even his fans have admitted,he's not an interesting,insightful speaker in his native tongue(he mumbles and slurs his words a lot...as you'd expect;))...so listening to him for hours would be more painfully boring than watching the Lawn-mowing Channel...even worse if you couldn't grasp what he was saying...so I think it's absurd to suggest that Ana's interest in him--and vice-versa--was platonic.....In hindsight,though,I wish that he would've dumped his gf and committed full-time to Ana....Even if he hadn't lifted a finger to help her(which is very likely,based on some of his comments),she could've learned from him just by accident...merely by watching...and she pro'bly wouldn't have slumped nearly as deeply

Lord Choc Ice
May 16th, 2010, 03:36 AM
Oh well, not we've established that JJ was flat-out nasty towards Ana during that match so now we have reason to blacklist her lol.

Going a bit OT here but I always wonder what Nando always rants in Spanish when he's pissed off. I always wonder what he says. :lol:

BTW do you think we should change the thread title to be just about the French Open? :)

Sor.ana
May 16th, 2010, 09:53 AM
Well she mentions Ana in her 'diary-entries' quite often really.This time she mentioned watching Ana-JJ match and cheering for Ana of course :) Usually she writes how friendly and nice Ana is.I remember she wrote about that one book Ana recommended to her so Sofia really wanted to read it.So,after that they met each other the same day and Ana gave her the copy she bought for her while checking the bookstores downtown.Something like that ;)
Sofia was absolutely impressed by Ana so since then she often writes about her.

Thanks for answering :)

Sofia seems to be a really nice girl, I wish I could see her in RG, but for the moment it has never happened.

azdaja
May 16th, 2010, 11:26 AM
Well,I'm not sure,Azdaja;Ana's Spanish is pretty crappy when you consider that she had to do her Madrid promo in English.After playing tournaments in Spanish-speaking countries for almost 10 years,she SHOULD know the basic words that are affiliated with a tennis tournament....Another Ana fan suggested to me that our gal was just shy from being out of practice but,like I said,they wouldn't expect her to give any complicated oratory...nor would they give her any challenging questions knowing that it wasn't her native language....
i think it's a matter of perspective. you know, people in spain in portugal tend to say how good my pronunciation (of spanish and portuguese) is, but i think that's because they know i'm a speaker of german, so they have low expectations :tape: in reality i'm bilingual and my repertoire is considerably bigger. so i would say spanish is much easier to learn for speakers of serbian than for speakers of german ;) but i guess italians would have even less problems :lol:

and i don't know how talented for languages ana is. she shouldn't be "exciting" all the time, you know :lol:

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2010, 02:18 PM
I dreamt of Ana tonight. :sobbing:

She was winning her first title in ages. It was clay... but it was a night match. Weird.. :lol: She played Petrova in the final and beat her 6-3 7-6, after saving a set point in the second set. :spit: It was a Premier 700, but I remember not being able to identify which one. I even thought it could be Stuttgart, but then I told myself that one had already been won by Henin this year.. :spit::lol: The funniest thing is that after the match, there was this big report on Ana in a brazilian TV, and they were saying how great it was that she had won her first title in 2 years. :lol:

Lord Choc Ice
May 16th, 2010, 02:21 PM
I dreamt of Ana tonight. :sobbing:

She was winning her first title in ages. It was clay... but it was a night match. Weird.. :lol: She played Petrova in the final and beat her 6-3 7-6, after saving a set point in the second set. :spit: It was a Premier 700, but I remember not being able to identify which one. I even thought it could be Stuttgart, but then I told myself that one had already been won by Henin this year.. :spit::lol: The funniest thing is that after the match, there was this big report on Ana in a brazilian TV, and they were saying how great it was that she had won her first title in 2 years. :lol:
I would say maybe it's a premonition of RG. But Petrova in the final? Sounds a bit fishy lol :p

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2010, 02:25 PM
I would say maybe it's a premonition of RG. But Petrova in the final? Sounds a bit fishy lol :p

:lol:

Unfortunately I don't think it's a premonition for RG.. :sobbing: I wish it was though.. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2010, 11:18 PM
Sofia wrote about Ana again today! :lol: Does she say she is okay about losing to Ana in Paris, just not in the first round? :lol::spit:

Ana Ivanovic is a kind and caring person. She had heard that I was bad and asked how it was with me. And she looks forward to seeing you in Paris. I wrote back to her and added that I know she looks forward to "meet" me in Paris when it usually goes very well for her ...
(2007 we met in the first omg, when Ana went to the finals. In 2008 we met in the first and omg when she won the whole thing.)
Finished with that I hope to see you in Paris, but like omg first of three or four .... =)

http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/

Curtos07
May 16th, 2010, 11:25 PM
Sofia wrote about Ana again today! :lol: Does she say she is okay about losing to Ana in Paris, just not in the first round? :lol::spit:



http://answermyquestionjerk.se/sofia/

:lol:Sofia has officially captured my heart. She is so adorable.

jelenacg
May 16th, 2010, 11:26 PM
:lol:
Sofia is funny :lol:
I`m sure Ana didn`t meant `to see her on court `
Is Sofia injured or something ?

Lord Choc Ice
May 16th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Sofia. :hearts:

Anyway just to get us pumped up for RG, here's some '08 highlights, complete with dramatic orchestral music. :p

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gaviotabr
May 16th, 2010, 11:31 PM
:lol:
Sofia is funny :lol:
I`m sure Ana didn`t meant `to see her on court `
Is Sofia injured or something ?

Yes.. she got injured in Ponte Vedra Beach I think. And had not been practicing since. I think Strasbourg is her first tournament since the injury.

Lord Choc Ice
May 16th, 2010, 11:34 PM
I added Sofia's quote to my signature. :p

jelenacg
May 16th, 2010, 11:39 PM
Yes.. she got injured in Ponte Vedra Beach I think. And had not been practicing since. I think Strasbourg is her first tournament since the injury.

Oh i didn`t know that
Btw i just saw Caro is playing Warsaw :eek: WTF is wrong with her :lol:

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2010, 11:40 PM
Oh i didn`t know that
Btw i just saw Caro is playing Warsaw :eek: WTF is wrong with her :lol:

She is just being Caro.. she plays everyweek.. :shrug:

It's Poland.. her dad is polish.. :shrug:

jelenacg
May 16th, 2010, 11:50 PM
She is just being Caro.. she plays everyweek.. :shrug:

It's Poland.. her dad is polish.. :shrug:

That`s just stupid :lol: If she has some patriotic feelings , she should play for Poland and not Denmark :lol:
I don`t see Radwanska playing there

gaviotabr
May 16th, 2010, 11:55 PM
That`s just stupid :lol: If she has some patriotic feelings , she should play for Poland and not Denmark :lol:
I don`t see Radwanska playing there

Radwanska had a huge argument with the tournament director last year because Sharapova had better VIP treatment than her and he didn't atend one of her requests and vowed not to play there again! :spit:

Lord Choc Ice
May 16th, 2010, 11:57 PM
Radwanska had a huge argument with the tournament director last year because Sharapova had better VIP treatment than her and he didn't atend one of her requests and vowed not to play there again! :spit:
:lol: Maria is Aga's least favourite playe, she said that herself. So no wonder she got jealous when she got better VIP treatment.

The Daviator
May 17th, 2010, 12:00 AM
Sofia :spit: :hearts:

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Radwanska had a huge argument with the tournament director last year because Sharapova had better VIP treatment than her and he didn't atend one of her requests and vowed not to play there again! :spit:

OMG really :lol:
Well it`s normal for Maria to get better treatment :shrug: she is after all Maria Sharapova
As much as i find Aga`s game boring as hell most of the time and i don`t like the fact that she has no energy on court , i like her off court attitude :lol:
I was laughing so hard last year when i read something she said to some journalist who criticized her game .I can`t remember what exactly ,something about why he doesn`t write for New York Post :lol:

gaviotabr
May 17th, 2010, 12:10 AM
OMG really :lol:
Well it`s normal for Maria to get better treatment :shrug: she is after all Maria Sharapova
As much as i find Aga`s game boring as hell most of the time and i don`t like the fact that she has no energy on court , i like her off court attitude :lol:
I was laughing so hard last year when i read something she said to some journalist who criticized her game .I can`t remember what exactly ,something about why he doesn`t write for New York Post :lol:

:spit:

I like Aga's off court personality as well.. I also really liked her gesture towards Ana in Stuttgart. The first thing she did after she won was ask Ana if she was ok, with a concerned face. Liked that.

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 12:17 AM
:lol: Maria is Aga's least favourite playe, she said that herself. So no wonder she got jealous when she got better VIP treatment.

:lol: I didn`t know that ,why?

:spit:

I like Aga's off court personality as well.. I also really liked her gesture towards Ana in Stuttgart. The first thing she did after she won was ask Ana if she was ok, with a concerned face. Liked that.

I didn`t see it ,i always change the channel when i see she lost the last point.I don`t wait for a handshake :lol:
Nice to know that about Aga :angel:

Lord Choc Ice
May 17th, 2010, 12:22 AM
:lol: I didn`t know that ,why?



I didn`t see it ,i always change the channel when i see she lost the last point.I don`t wait for a handshake :lol:
Nice to know that about Aga :angel:
I don't know why but just in some random interview she was asked a question like that and she said straight-out, "Maria Sharapova".

For that she went on my permanent blacklist. Her :zzz: game doesn't help either. :ras:

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 12:32 AM
I don't know why but just in some random interview she was asked a question like that and she said straight-out, "Maria Sharapova".

For that she went on my permanent blacklist. Her :zzz: game doesn't help either. :ras:

:lol:
I like Maria ,i find her interviews after the matches very refreshing and smart

gaviotabr
May 17th, 2010, 12:57 AM
Sven has this on his latest blog, from Strasbourg:


We had the poster of the tournament to Ana Ivanovic sent and asked if they would play here. Together with the following pictures, we told her we miss her here.

http://tennisdirectblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/26.jpg



http://blog.tennisdirect.nl/2010/05/16/strasbourg-dag-2/

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 01:13 AM
I`m not sure i understood this .They asked her to play there ,who are `they` ? And for once i support Ana not playing a tournament.It`s a week before GS :rolleyes:
I don`t like this one bit .First Ana says Sven still `advises` her and now he mentions her in a blog
Maybe i`m paranoid a little bit but this better not be related with firing Heinz after RG :o

Curtos07
May 17th, 2010, 01:13 AM
Not sure what Sven was exactly saying there. Translation is a little rough. Why is Ana on the poster for Strasbourg?

gaviotabr
May 17th, 2010, 01:22 AM
I`m not sure i understood this .They asked her to play there ,who are `they` ? And for once i support Ana not playing a tournament.It`s a week before GS :rolleyes:
I don`t like this one bit .First Ana says Sven still `advises` her and now he mentions her in a blog
Maybe i`m paranoid a little bit but this better not be related with firing Heinz after RG :o

:sobbing: UFF! I hope not! Ana has to keep Heinz! :sobbing:

About the blog.. I think the idea is that Sven took a picture of the poster of the tournament and sent it to Ana, asking if she was going to play there, since they use her pic on the poster. Then he told her he missed her there. :shrug:

Not sure what Sven was exactly saying there. Translation is a little rough. Why is Ana on the poster for Strasbourg?

Yes.. translation is rough.. I have no idea why they use Ana on the poster for Strasbourg, but it's the second year in a row.. last year they also had a pic of her.. :shrug:

doni1212
May 17th, 2010, 03:41 AM
Sofia. :hearts:

Anyway just to get us pumped up for RG, here's some '08 highlights, complete with dramatic orchestral music. :p

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Watching this makes me feel happy and sad at the same time. I hope she will eventually regain this form!! :sad:

Lord Choc Ice
May 17th, 2010, 05:27 AM
What's this I hear about firing Heinz? :confused:

Davodus
May 17th, 2010, 05:34 AM
Just because she always fires people :lol: It wouldn't be a surprise.

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 05:52 AM
Ana is, THE BOSS :lol:


"Kardon, gtfo, you're fired ...... AJDE!" *double fist pump twirl*

gaviotabr
May 17th, 2010, 12:13 PM
I will never understand Ana fans opening threads about her in GM. It's only another place where haters will vent, another opportunity for them to do so... :o

All the JJ fans who sport the fistpumpgate on their avatars.. why are you reading here? Ana is not going to say anything bad about JJ to justify it.. :rolleyes:

And it's amazing how many haters have been reading our forum lately.. go to GM (or back to your respective forums) people! :o

gaviotabr
May 17th, 2010, 12:14 PM
Sofia. :hearts:

Anyway just to get us pumped up for RG, here's some '08 highlights, complete with dramatic orchestral music. :p

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Good old days when Ana still knew how to play tennis... :sobbing:

Davodus
May 17th, 2010, 12:51 PM
I will never understand Ana fans opening threads about her in GM. It's only another place where haters will vent, another opportunity for them to do so... :o

All the JJ fans who sport the fistpumpgate on their avatars.. why are you reading here? Ana is not going to say anything bad about JJ to justify it.. :rolleyes:

And it's amazing how many haters have been reading our forum lately.. go to GM (or back to your respective forums) people! :o

*you must spread reputation around before giving it to gaviotabr again* :( :lol:

Totally agree, back up out of this forum haters :bigwave:

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 12:59 PM
I will never understand Ana fans opening threads about her in GM. It's only another place where haters will vent, another opportunity for them to do so... :o

All the JJ fans who sport the fistpumpgate on their avatars.. why are you reading here? Ana is not going to say anything bad about JJ to justify it.. :rolleyes:

And it's amazing how many haters have been reading our forum lately.. go to GM (or back to your respective forums) people! :o

:lol::worship:
Thin line between love and hate :lol:

Btw did you hear about that girl from Australia who sailed around the world .She is just 16 years old :worship::eek:

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:02 PM
:lol::worship:
Thin line between love and hate :lol:

Btw did you hear about that girl from Australia who sailed around the world .She is just 16 years old :worship::eek:

OMG I have not stopped hearing about her!! She is like the biggest celebrity in the country atm :lol: Getting kind of sick of it actually, I mean, it's great, but I don't want to know about it every passing second of the day :lol::tape:

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 01:11 PM
OMG I have not stopped hearing about her!! She is like the biggest celebrity in the country atm :lol: Getting kind of sick of it actually, I mean, it's great, but I don't want to know about it every passing second of the day :lol::tape:

:lol: :lol:
But you should be proud :p

Davodus
May 17th, 2010, 01:19 PM
:lol::worship:
Thin line between love and hate :lol:

Btw did you hear about that girl from Australia who sailed around the world .She is just 16 years old :worship::eek:

I know it's a big deal and all, but I really couldn't care less about her :lol: She did something amazing, for herself, sure...but I don't need to hear about it every waking minute :o And she didn't even do it properly because she didn't go far enough north :confused: I dunno, I just don't wanna hear about it anymore :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:20 PM
:lol: :lol:
But you should be proud :p

Well I guess so? I mean it's nice that a young person is doing something amazing with her life, and that she's Australian, but the media is going OTT. We never have huge welcomings for the army etc. and they are the real heroes imo. Just my opinion :lol:


@Izzy: the best dose of medicine them haters can cop is Ana kicking everyone's ass at RG :devil:

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:21 PM
I know it's a big deal and all, but I really couldn't care less about her :lol: She did something amazing, for herself, sure...but I don't need to hear about it every waking minute :o And she didn't even do it properly because she didn't go far enough north :confused: I dunno, I just don't wanna hear about it anymore :lol:

I see that a fellow aussie agrees :lol: :)

Lord Choc Ice
May 17th, 2010, 01:25 PM
It would be so great if Ana drew JJ at RG R1 and won. :lol: GM would explode. :rolls:

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:29 PM
It would be so great if Ana drew JJ at RG R1 and won. :lol: GM would explode. :rolls:

Aaron, I don't think I could handle the stress associated with Ana drawing JJ in round 1, I would be SO worried :tape:

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 01:32 PM
I know it's a big deal and all, but I really couldn't care less about her :lol: She did something amazing, for herself, sure...but I don't need to hear about it every waking minute :o And she didn't even do it properly because she didn't go far enough north :confused: I dunno, I just don't wanna hear about it anymore :lol:

I see that a fellow aussie agrees :lol: :)

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

:lol:
That`s the thing with media they blow out everything out of proportion :lol:
But still i love sailing and that girl is only 16 years old so i`m :eek::worship:

Lord Choc Ice
May 17th, 2010, 01:34 PM
It is a bit scary knowing that she could draw anyone and everyone. At least we have the security of a seeding before. :scared:

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:34 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

:lol:
That`s the thing with media they blow out everything out of proportion :lol:
But still i love sailing and that girl is only 16 years old so i`m :eek::worship:

It's great that the story touched you Jelena :lol: :) I imagine that the Serbian media only gave it passing attention, if this were the case in Aus I would appreciate it much more I guess :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:35 PM
It is a bit scary knowing that she could draw anyone and everyone. At least we have the security of a seeding before. :scared:

Absolutely ANYBODY in the MD :eek::help:

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 01:43 PM
It's great that the story touched you Jelena :lol: :) I imagine that the Serbian media only gave it passing attention, if this were the case in Aus I would appreciate it much more I guess :lol:

:lol:
Absolutely ANYBODY in the MD :eek::help:

Yeah that`s so scary :scared:
For the record i wouln`t like Ana vs JJ drama in 1R of GS :rolleyes:

Lord Choc Ice
May 17th, 2010, 01:44 PM
I bet you would if Ana won. :p

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:45 PM
:lol:


Yeah that`s so scary :scared:
For the record i wouln`t like Ana vs JJ drama in 1R of GS :rolleyes:

I think I would start losing sleep if this happens, but even worse would be Justine. I actually have a feeling Ana will draw Rezai though :help:

jelenacg
May 17th, 2010, 01:51 PM
I bet you would if Ana won. :p

No i wouldn`t :p I don`t like all that drama
I would like for her to draw some slumping player who can`t hit a court to save his life :lol:
Ana`s tennis is not good for my heart :sobbing:

I think I would start losing sleep if this happens, but even worse would be Justine. I actually have a feeling Ana will draw Rezai though :help:

I think she will draw one of the WS :lol:

Lord Choc Ice
May 17th, 2010, 01:55 PM
Would she have better chances against Vee or Ree in the 1R? Now there's a question worth pondering. :lol:

Anyway sorry Ana 2010'ovic (what's your name again? :lol: sorry) but after how annoying the Jankobitches on GM have been lately, I'd be the first in line to gloat hardcore if Ana beat JJ at RG. :rolls:

Anyway after this tournament JJ's on my blacklist. :p Bitch can burn.

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 01:57 PM
No i wouldn`t :p I don`t like all that drama
I would like for her to draw some slumping player who can`t hit a court to save his life :lol:
Ana`s tennis is not good for my heart :sobbing:



I think she will draw one of the WS :lol:

:sad:

I want Ana to play Arvidsson early on, we know Sofia will let Ana win :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 17th, 2010, 02:00 PM
Would she have better chances against Vee or Ree in the 1R? Now there's a question worth pondering. :lol:

Anyway sorry Ana 2010'ovic (what's your name again? :lol: sorry) but after how annoying the Jankobitches on GM have been lately, I'd be the first in line to gloat hardcore if Ana beat JJ at RG. :rolls:

It's Justin :p I would gloat to an extent, I like JJ and I want her to do well, but I definately want Ana to beat her and beat her good! :devil:

Adrian1092
May 17th, 2010, 05:17 PM
Ana vs Sofia final would be :drool: :lol: Sofia would definitely even give the match to Ana :devil: But yeah I can really see Ana drawing a top 10 seed :sad:

Jang87
May 17th, 2010, 05:30 PM
If she does draw a top 10 seed then lets hope she'll cause an upset :).

ptitnavet
May 17th, 2010, 06:06 PM
She'll crush them all :cheer:
No pity :devil:

I think if she 'll draw top 10 players like Radwanska she can beat them.

I'm also hoping she'll get her revenge against JJ :fiery:

doni1212
May 18th, 2010, 01:32 AM
Bring on a round 1 match vs. Jankobitch! I would love to see her go out that early!! :rocker2:

bruce goose
May 18th, 2010, 01:56 AM
Bring on a round 1 match vs. Jankobitch! I would love to see her go out that early!! :rocker2:Assuming she can generate her old power,Ana should just bash the ball when she plays JJ again...even if some shots are going out.If Jelena is playing well,then copying Rezai--or,shall we say,imitating the old Ana--is how she can win,maybe;)

Lord Choc Ice
May 18th, 2010, 01:58 AM
Assuming she can generate her old power,Ana should just bash the ball when she plays JJ again...even if some shots are going out.If Jelena is playing well,then copying Rezai--or,shall we say,imitating the old Ana--is how she can win,maybe;)
Please even old Ana wasn't half as brainless as Rezai. :p

spiritedenergy
May 18th, 2010, 02:19 AM
She'll crush them all :cheer:
No pity :devil:

I think if she 'll draw top 10 players like Radwanska she can beat them.

I'm also hoping she'll get her revenge against JJ :fiery:

guys let's not get ahead of ourselves, before Rome she didn't beat a top 10 in 1 and half year:o I hope she won't draw any seed, that would be terrible IMO

The 2nd Law
May 18th, 2010, 03:59 AM
guys let's not get ahead of ourselves, before Rome she didn't beat a top 10 in 1 and half year:o I hope she won't draw any seed, that would be terrible IMO

This. No Rd1 seeds please!

Sor.ana
May 18th, 2010, 07:42 PM
I'll hope she win a lot of matches, but I would prefer if for the first one she doesn't get any top seed. Or a very weak one.

azdaja
May 18th, 2010, 09:59 PM
what i hope is that other ana's fans don't feel mad at me for arguing with jj fans at the moment :o to my defence i have to say that i have nothing better to do at the moment :o

jelenacg
May 18th, 2010, 10:12 PM
:lol:
Hopefully it will give some good karma to Ana :lol: The last time we had a big fight Ana won RG :p
I`m so depressed bc of the weather .It`s horrible :sobbing:

2 days until the RG draw :)

spiritedenergy
May 18th, 2010, 10:25 PM
:lol:
Hopefully it will give some good karma to Ana :lol: The last time we had a big fight Ana won RG :p
I`m so depressed bc of the weather .It`s horrible :sobbing:

2 days until the RG draw :)

it's so beaituful here i can't believe it... it's 28 degrees, sunny, dry, no mosquitos, and forecasts say it will stay like that for at least the whole week, it feels sooo good:p

spiritedenergy
May 18th, 2010, 10:26 PM
what i hope is that other ana's fans don't feel mad at me for arguing with jj fans at the moment :o to my defence i have to say that i have nothing better to do at the moment :o

i love it! i missed some bitchiness on this site:lol:

azdaja
May 18th, 2010, 10:27 PM
I`m so depressed bc of the weather .It`s horrible :sobbing:
if it's the same as here i understand it. it's been pissing for days.

i will continue my argument with jj fans tomorrow. nuff for tonight :o

azdaja
May 18th, 2010, 10:29 PM
i love it! i missed some bitchiness on this site:lol:
haha, don't know why you missed it. it's always been here :lol:

but like i said, i will continue tomorrow :o

ptitnavet
May 18th, 2010, 10:31 PM
I am so with you :worship:

jelenacg
May 18th, 2010, 10:32 PM
it's so beaituful here i can't believe it... it's 28 degrees, sunny, dry, no mosquitos, and forecasts say it will stay like that for at least the whole week, it feels sooo good:p

:ras:
I hate you :o It`s windy,rainy and cold here... and it has been like that for days :tape:
I want my sun back :sobbing: It`s not fair it`s May and it feels like November :sobbing:

Lord Choc Ice
May 19th, 2010, 12:15 AM
what i hope is that other ana's fans don't feel mad at me for arguing with jj fans at the moment :o to my defence i have to say that i have nothing better to do at the moment :o
I don't blame you at all. JJ fans are as horrible as she is (apart from Justin of course :) ). :cuckoo:

Actually my current avatar is kinda aimed at JJ fans. :lol: I think sometimes they need reminding which one of them is the champion. :angel:

doni1212
May 19th, 2010, 03:20 AM
what i hope is that other ana's fans don't feel mad at me for arguing with jj fans at the moment :o to my defence i have to say that i have nothing better to do at the moment :o

I'm right there with you!! Although I probably do have something better to do, :lol:

Orbis
May 19th, 2010, 03:38 AM
Wow, some really stupid things were said in that thread in GM :rolls: Those partisan JJ fans are ridiculous, most JJ fans are fine and I like Jelena myself, but some of her fans are incredibly venomous. That thread was full of the same old tired JJ fans/Ana haters that simply try and contradict anything that puts Ana in a positive light. And I mean some of the things said were REALLY stupid, someone claimed that the Ana-JJ RG match was the most unsportsmanlike behaviour they'd ever seen (from Ana) :spit: What? It was a good, hard-fought and intense match between two great clay players, nothing else. It's clear that a lot of the stuff that was said by Ana haters in there was sheer bitterness, while some Ana fans said some nasty things in defense too...anyway I didn't want to get involved because you can't really argue with those kinds of people, but I wish that for all fanbases, people would just learn to stop constantly attacking players they don't like. Sometimes the maturity of this forum wavers slightly below that of a kindergarten class. Also, I can sort of sympathize with Serena's fans because the amount of passive-aggressive bullshit she gets from other fanbases must be really irritating for her fans.

Davodus
May 19th, 2010, 04:08 AM
I can't wait for the RG draw to come out, just so we have something other than Jankovic to talk about :yawn: It's starting to grate on me how much she is being discussed, because I really don't even wanna think about her.

spiritedenergy
May 19th, 2010, 04:43 AM
Wow, some really stupid things were said in that thread in GM :rolls: Those partisan JJ fans are ridiculous, most JJ fans are fine and I like Jelena myself, but some of her fans are incredibly venomous. That thread was full of the same old tired JJ fans/Ana haters that simply try and contradict anything that puts Ana in a positive light. And I mean some of the things said were REALLY stupid, someone claimed that the Ana-JJ RG match was the most unsportsmanlike behaviour they'd ever seen (from Ana) :spit: What? It was a good, hard-fought and intense match between two great clay players, nothing else. It's clear that a lot of the stuff that was said by Ana haters in there was sheer bitterness, while some Ana fans said some nasty things in defense too...anyway I didn't want to get involved because you can't really argue with those kinds of people, but I wish that for all fanbases, people would just learn to stop constantly attacking players they don't like. Sometimes the maturity of this forum wavers slightly below that of a kindergarten class. Also, I can sort of sympathize with Serena's fans because the amount of passive-aggressive bullshit she gets from other fanbases must be really irritating for her fans.

totally agree, especially the bold parts. I also read someone (bruno71?) who wrote that about that SF:spit: I mean come on!:lol: It looks like some of them are still bitter about that match, even though JJ had a nice career afterwards and might go on to win a slam herself, who knows? I thought the serbian fans might be bitterer because of the amount of attention Ana got after she won RG (the Belgrade reception, etc.), but this bruno71 is american:shrug:

And yes i'd define them as passive-aggressive, i wanted to write that in a post in that thread but decided not to add fire... but they clearly are, they spend half of the time talking about Ana with bittersweet remarks:rolleyes: they were the first to get the news about verdasco for example

I can't wait for the RG draw to come out, just so we have something other than Jankovic to talk about :yawn: It's starting to grate on me how much she is being discussed, because I really don't even wanna think about her.

i agree, but she's never discussed much here, that's what clearly shows who's obsessed, we barely talk about her while they always talk about ana:shrug:

Curtos07
May 19th, 2010, 06:34 AM
Wow, some really stupid things were said in that thread in GM :rolls: Those partisan JJ fans are ridiculous, most JJ fans are fine and I like Jelena myself, but some of her fans are incredibly venomous. That thread was full of the same old tired JJ fans/Ana haters that simply try and contradict anything that puts Ana in a positive light. And I mean some of the things said were REALLY stupid, someone claimed that the Ana-JJ RG match was the most unsportsmanlike behaviour they'd ever seen (from Ana) :spit: What? It was a good, hard-fought and intense match between two great clay players, nothing else. It's clear that a lot of the stuff that was said by Ana haters in there was sheer bitterness, while some Ana fans said some nasty things in defense too...anyway I didn't want to get involved because you can't really argue with those kinds of people, but I wish that for all fanbases, people would just learn to stop constantly attacking players they don't like. Sometimes the maturity of this forum wavers slightly below that of a kindergarten class. Also, I can sort of sympathize with Serena's fans because the amount of passive-aggressive bullshit she gets from other fanbases must be really irritating for her fans.

Some of the stuff Ana haters say is beyond ridiculous. Some of the crap is just so far out there. I read only a couple of pages in that thread and I even left a little post in defense of Ana myself, but haven't gone back to see if anybody responded to it or read any of the other posts. I just decided to ignore it because all it will do is get my blood boiling and I will go on a mini....ok, all out rampage over there. I just not in the mood for it. I am very sensitive to negative things said about Ana. I am learning to try to ignore the crap so I don't get too pissed off about it. But if I do end up reading it, I usually can't help myself but to respond, sometimes harshly. That's why I am not even going to bother reading the crap they write there. They're all petty little children who have nothing better to do than hate out of jealousness.

Davodus
May 19th, 2010, 07:57 AM
i agree, but she's never discussed much here, that's what clearly shows who's obsessed, we barely talk about her while they always talk about ana:shrug:

That's what I mean, every thread about Ana gets diseased with Jankovic fangirls who have the sole purpose of bringing Jankovic into it when it has nothing to do with her. I go to GM once and I see that thread is full of them, like vultures, and I'm glad it got closed. Jankovic is just irrelevant to me and I really don't get her hardcore fans.

The 2nd Law
May 19th, 2010, 09:29 AM
It's almost unsafe to be an Ana fan in GM atm :help:

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 09:47 AM
Unsportsman behavior from Ana :lol:
How do you call a sudden desire to stand on the racquet at 4-4 40-0 in third set :haha:

I can't wait for the RG draw to come out, just so we have something other than Jankovic to talk about :yawn: It's starting to grate on me how much she is being discussed, because I really don't even wanna think about her.

I also can`t wait for the RG draw to come come out ,all this talk about JJ :yawn::yawn:
Now watch Ana draw her again :o So we can have a full month of discussing JJ :weirdo:

I really don`t get all this fighting between fans.I really don`t :shrug: One time ok,twice ok, but 12134345 times :rolleyes:
We don`t fight with Elena`s fans and she is 4-1 against Ana :lol: ,same with WS fans ,Justine`s fans . Even with Maria`s fans we never had these kind of fights,and we could bc Maria vs Ana i get it bc all the endorsments :lol: but Ana vs JJ :weirdo:

The 2nd Law
May 19th, 2010, 10:12 AM
Unsportsman behavior from Ana :lol:
How do you call a sudden desire to stand on the racquet at 4-4 40-0 in third set :haha:



I also can`t wait for the RG draw to come come out ,all this talk about JJ :yawn::yawn:
Now watch Ana draw her again :o So we can have a full month of discussing JJ :weirdo:

I really don`t get all this fighting between fans.I really don`t :shrug: One time ok,twice ok, but 12134345 times :rolleyes:
We don`t fight with Elena`s fans and she is 4-1 against Ana :lol: ,same with WS fans ,Justine`s fans . Even with Maria`s fans we never had these kind of fights,and we could bc Maria vs Ana i get it bc all the endorsments :lol: but Ana vs JJ :weirdo:

You are spot on Jelena, it's silly. Although, I reckon there are heaps of Ana hating Elena fans, and I have no idea why. They have no reason at all.

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 10:26 AM
You are spot on Jelena, it's silly. Although, I reckon there are heaps of Ana hating Elena fans, and I have no idea why. They have no reason at all.

Ana is GS champion :p Elena and JJ aren`t No matter how much Ana is slumping that will never change :lol:
And i would still prefer Ana`s career(even with this never ending slump :o ) than JJ`s and Elena`s

I'd rather be great only once than mediocre forever :p:lol:

Nikkiri
May 19th, 2010, 10:32 AM
I can't wait for the RG draw to come out, just so we have something other than Jankovic to talk about :yawn: It's starting to grate on me how much she is being discussed, because I really don't even wanna think about her.

Her or her 'I think I'm so funny and witty' fans. God it's getting old. I think we should all just let them spew their shit all over the forum and refuse to give them anything back.. it's what they want. I never did enjoy these fanbase fights even when Ana was obviously better than Jelena.

azdaja
May 19th, 2010, 10:36 AM
so, that thread got closed? :unsure: just so i don't need to go and check it myself.

I really don`t get all this fighting between fans.I really don`t :shrug: One time ok,twice ok, but 12134345 times :rolleyes:
We don`t fight with Elena`s fans and she is 4-1 against Ana :lol: ,same with WS fans ,Justine`s fans . Even with Maria`s fans we never had these kind of fights,and we could bc Maria vs Ana i get it bc all the endorsments :lol: but Ana vs JJ :weirdo:
but jj fans are far more venomous about and obsessed with ana than others :o hell, they even discovered sofia was blogging about ana and made a thread about it in gm :o it takes effort to avoid conflicts with them.

and i really understand that some people don't like ana, but people who are trying to paint her as an evil bitch are just :o i mean, i do believe she has her inner demons and could potentially be a bad person - everyone does. but she has it under control, her behaviour is exemplary. is it so difficult to admit that?

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 10:56 AM
so, that thread got closed? :unsure: just so i don't need to go and check it myself.


but jj fans are far more venomous about and obsessed with ana than others :o hell, they even discovered sofia was blogging about ana and made a thread about it in gm :o it takes effort to avoid conflicts with them.

and i really understand that some people don't like ana, but people who are trying to paint her as an evil bitch are just :o i mean, i do believe she has her inner demons and could potentially be a bad person - everyone does. but she has it under control, her behaviour is exemplary. is it so difficult to admit that?

I`m sure they didn`t `discover` it :lol: ,they just read it in here .And i didn`t know they made a thread about it in GM :spit:

Ana ,no way :lol: But yeah she just like everyone else has a bad side too.And lately i realized that her bad side is related with autodestructing and not hurting other people :o
I know JJ`s fans like to hate Ana but who cares .Let them do what they want :shrug: .If it makes them feel better about JJ let them bash Ana :rolleyes:

Just like Kiristea said ,we shouldn`t give them anything back .That`s what they want
When you see they crossed a line,just send a message to moderator or whatever is done in those situations and end of story

azdaja
May 19th, 2010, 11:39 AM
I`m sure they didn`t `discover` it :lol: ,they just read it in here .And i didn`t know they made a thread about it in GM :spit:
yeah, that thread got merged with the big drama thread. and you are right it makes more sense that they saw it here.

Ana ,no way :lol: But yeah she just like everyone else has a bad side too.And lately i realized that her bad side is related with autodestructing and not hurting other people :o
I know JJ`s fans like to hate Ana but who cares .Let them do what they want :shrug: .If it makes them feel better about JJ let them bash Ana :rolleyes:

Just like Kiristea said ,we shouldn`t give them anything back .That`s what they want
When you see they crossed a line,just send a message to moderator or whatever is done in those situations and end of story
it's not just them, though. plenty of people act like that. it seems people can hate you even if you act in a correct way.

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 11:39 AM
In these last few days I've avoided GM.. but by reading you guys here, I couldn't help but wonder.. what would JJ fans say if the roles were reversed? I'm pretty sure they would be attacking what they are now defending and would be defending what they are now attacking. One thing is clear, we would never cut Ana slack if she had JJ's behaviour. I know we would be harsh on her.

The most absurd absurd I've ever read on GM (and there are plenty) was a JJ fan saying that he/she couldn't understand why Ana hated JJ so much, right after the article with JJ's mom's quotes came out. :spit: Someone asked why he/she was saying that. The JJ fan then replied it was because Ana would get over pumped to play JJ, so many ajdes and fistpumps. I was like... WTF? JJ is the one who bad mouthes Ana to the press, who mocks her.. her mom follows Ana love life so that she can criticize the girl... and Ana is the one who hates according to them? :spit: So ridiculous.. :lol: The non-argument got exposed as someone said it was nothing more than a personal perception then.

Anyway.. I've been out of the forum for the past couple of days.. mainly because my computer refused to open tennis forum.. :spit: I was quite surprised to see so much JJ discussion here. I don't we've ever... ever.. talked this much about other player. Not even close.. Personally speaking.. I've always liked JJ (not anymore now for obvious reasons).. I even used to read her forum and be amused by their comments.. Their obssession towards discussing everything Ana always seemed more funny then annoying to me. I've since changed my opinion, and I won't be going there again.. they have been beyond senseless in this subject trying to paint Ana as the bitch, when the girl didn't do a single thing. Ana probably doesn't even know JJ and her mom are as obssessed with her as JJ's fans.. :spit: I don't think she reads news about her, and I don't think anyone told her that.. so unless some journalist asks her the question at some presser, she will remain oblivious. But ou know? If they ask, she will say she understands and have nothing but complimentary words for JJ as a player.. the worse thing she can say is the obvious "we are not best friends". :spit: They can try to spin it as much as they want, reality remains the same. So.. I just really couldn't care less if they criticize her or not. I mean.. who cares what they think? Like all haters on GM... we are not going to change their minds and they are going to keep hating with no reason whatsoever. So.. a big whatever!

I respect all you guys trying to defend Ana there.. valiant effort! But I think the best is just let it go.. haters want to hate, to get atention, to annoy fanbases. If all they get is indifference, things die down.

Having said all that.. I have to agree with Jelena and David.. I'm SO tired of JJ and all this drama. I'm going to avoid all things JJ forever and always.. won't watch her unless she plays Ana.. because this has tired be for life. And this is the last time I'll mention the issue. :tape:

Someone wrote on twitter, how much drama is too much drama? I think this is just toooooo much. I've always loved Ana because she kept the drama to a minimum.. she goes about her business, goes out there to play, and that's it. She can suck, her matches can be hell to watch.. but it is what it is. I'm really giving that even more value right now.

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Ana ,no way :lol: But yeah she just like everyone else has a bad side too.And lately i realized that her bad side is related with autodestructing and not hurting other people :o


Hey Jelena!

Yeah.. I wish Ana wouls stop caring so much about what other people think... she is too much of a people pleaser, to an extent she hurts herself. I'm sure she toned down the ajdes and fistpumps because of that. I wish she would fistpumkp and ajde all she wants and more. :o

It's like sometimes she thinks she doesn't deserve good things.. or she doesn't want to bother others.. :tape:

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 11:44 AM
yeah, that thread got merged with the big drama thread. and you are right it makes more sense that they saw it here.

They read here.. a lot..

it's not just them, though. plenty of people act like that. it seems people can hate you even if you act in a correct way.

Hate is irrational..

azdaja
May 19th, 2010, 12:07 PM
They read here.. a lot..
lol, whatever, i only post here and read forums of players i like for some pics, videos and infos. i did enter their forum a couple of times and wish i hadn't :o and i didn't realise anything interesting was going on here :p

Hate is irrational..
yeah, and trying to rationalise the irrational can be quite absurd. and i guess that's what we're dealing with.

i was just discussing stuff like that because i am in general puzzled by that attitude. and didn't have anything better to do :lol:

and i soo agree that it's nice that ana is primarily a tennis player and not much else. it really doesn't matter if she is good or not, all that matters is her tennis. i feel like that about any player i support. even though i will admit i like some players just because they are pretty :lol: but in such cases i care more about their pics than about their tennis :lol:

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 12:19 PM
yeah, that thread got merged with the big drama thread. and you are right it makes more sense that they saw it here.
it's not just them, though. plenty of people act like that. it seems people can hate you even if you act in a correct way.

Sure many people act like that but all the hate from GM in TF and in MTF is just not relevant.You have to understand that many of the posters are just kids/teenegers who don`t think rationally.I know it doesn`t justify them but that`s how things are According to them Ana,Serena,Venus,Justine,Caro,Nadal,Federer,Novak, Murray would be the most hated people in the universe and they are not :lol:
Crowd loves them ,or at least doesn`t hate them at all :lol:

In these last few days I've avoided GM.. but by reading you guys here, I couldn't help but wonder.. what would JJ fans say if the roles were reversed? I'm pretty sure they would be attacking what they are now defending and would be defending what they are now attacking. One thing is clear, we would never cut Ana slack if she had JJ's behaviour. I know we would be harsh on her.


hey Izzy :)
Exactly :o Even now people call us haters :lol:

Someone wrote on twitter, how much drama is too much drama? I think this is just toooooo much. I've always loved Ana because she kept the drama to a minimum.. she goes about her business, goes out there to play, and that's it. She can suck, her matches can be hell to watch.. but it is what it is. I'm really giving that even more value right now.
Yeah too much drama :o
I agree on this ,at least i don`t have to worry what she will say in her interviews :worship:
Hey Jelena!

Yeah.. I wish Ana wouls stop caring so much about what other people think... she is too much of a people pleaser, to an extent she hurts herself. I'm sure she toned down the ajdes and fistpumps because of that. I wish she would fistpumkp and ajde all she wants and more. :o

It's like sometimes she thinks she doesn't deserve good things.. or she doesn't want to bother others.. :tape:

That`s definitely a bad aproach and i mean it .Just be yourself and don`t change things that are working for you. If fistpumping and saying ajde helps you to focus more and be more in a match ,don`t change that .Haters will always find something to complain about bc it`s simply impossible to please everyone :rolleyes:
Besides Nadal never stopped picking his ass :lol:

Lord Choc Ice
May 19th, 2010, 12:24 PM
Yeah let's forget about JJ eh? :hug: We'll have our hands full at RG with Ana I imagine.

The Anacoaster will drive us mental as usual.

bruce goose
May 19th, 2010, 12:49 PM
Ana is GS champion :p Elena and JJ aren`t No matter how much Ana is slumping that will never change :lol:
And i would still prefer Ana`s career(even with this never ending slump :o ) than JJ`s and Elena`s

I'd rather be great only once than mediocre forever :p:lol:You're right that many Elena fans go too far;there's one British fellow(who's,for the most part,not a bad guy)whose face is as homely as a goat's ass...and he actually criticized Ana's appearance:lol:

However,Calling Elena 'mediocre' is excessive on your part...she has dominated Ana even in Ana's glory days,for one...been consistently in the Top 5 or 10...been a TWO-time Olympic medalist...including the Golden Title...her draw was MUCH tougher there than Ana's 2008 RG was...and she's even been a factor at some 'traditional',non-Olympic Slams despite her service chokes:o..she was likely a mere cm away from winning Wimby last year when Serena's MP volley barely cleared the net cord(ticking it)..and would've faced the physically crippled Venus in the final................Such skill level is WELL above the definition of mediocrity...Ana's bf....Now THAT'S mediocrity......If someone were to do some 'manual repairs' above his shoulders:devil:......or,as ANOTHER Aussie--the infamous Toe-Cutter--put it,if he were to 'lose the pretty face'....then he'd be NOTHING;):p

The 2nd Law
May 19th, 2010, 01:01 PM
You're right that many Elena fans go too far;there's one British fellow(who's,for the most part,not a bad guy)whose face is as homely as a goat's ass...and he actually criticized Ana's appearance:lol:

However,Calling Elena 'mediocre' is excessive on your part...she has dominated Ana even in Ana's glory days,for one...been consistently in the Top 5 or 10...been a TWO-time Olympic medalist...including the Golden Title...her draw was MUCH tougher there than Ana's 2008 RG was...and she's even been a factor at some 'traditional',non-Olympic Slams despite her service chokes:o..she was likely a mere cm away from winning Wimby last year when Serena's MP volley barely cleared the net cord(ticking it)..and would've faced the physically crippled Venus in the final................Such skill level is WELL above the definition of mediocrity...Ana's bf....Now THAT'S mediocrity......If someone were to do some 'manual repairs' above his shoulders:devil:......or,as ANOTHER Aussie--the infamous Toe-Cutter--put it,if he were to 'lose the pretty face'....then he'd be NOTHING;):p

Bruce, you post in Lena's forum I'd imagine? Am I right that an unusually high amount of Lena fans hate Ana? If so, is Jelena's reasoning also right?

@ Izzy's essay post: :p Once again, and like always, you are 100% correct. This is why YOU are the mayor of Anapolis :lol: I've always been a JJ fan, and I think I will still root for her (never against Ana, NEVER), but I've never really been a part of her forum here and now I never will. JJ and Ana fans should really be the same people, imo, but we won't get on to that. Let's just not discuss her unless Ana is playing her.

We need to take the high road from now on, everyone, because if Ana ever returns to the top level again it will make things so much sweeter :lol:

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 01:10 PM
Bruce, you always see what you want to see :rolleyes:
That saying had nothing to do with Elena or JJ .It was about Ana and her results

Yes Elena would beat Venus on grass :spit: same Venus who she couldn`t beat in a previous 5 years :lol:
Her draw was tougher,few cm above the net ... :lol:
Now i understand why you think Dinara will win GS when she is 28,29 years old

bruce goose
May 19th, 2010, 01:13 PM
Bruce, you post in Lena's forum I'd imagine? Am I right that an unusually high amount of Lena fans hate Ana? If so, is Jelena's reasoning also right?

Justin,as Aaron could tell you,there's really only one Ana-basher on the SS Dementieva...and he doesn't do it often.In other threads that might exist...yes,I'll agree somewhat in that some fans are bitter that Elena hasn't won a traditional,non-Olympic slam event...but most fans take a cue from Elena herself...who doesn't care about popularity or endorsement-queen status.She personifies class and is glad to see Ana doing well.....unlike SOME people we won't mention;)

The 2nd Law
May 19th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Justin,as Aaron could tell you,there's really only one Ana-basher on the SS Dementieva...and he doesn't do it often.In other threads that might exist...yes,I'll agree somewhat in that some fans are bitter that Elena hasn't won a traditional,non-Olympic slam event...but most fans take a cue from Elena herself...who doesn't care about popularity or endorsement-queen status.She personifies class and is glad to see Ana doing well.....unlike SOME people we won't mention;)

Haha okay, don't take it the wrong way, I really like Lena. It's just something I found quite odd.

bruce goose
May 19th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Bruce, you always see what you want to see :rolleyes:
That saying had nothing to do with Elena or JJ .It was about Ana and her results

Yes Elena would beat Venus on grass :spit: same Venus who she couldn`t beat in a previous 5 years :lol:
Her draw was tougher,few cm above the net ... :lol:
Now i understand why you think Dinara will win GS when she is 28,29 years oldUnless you were jacked up on Mallorca magic mushrooms,you actually watched the match and saw the same thing.....Ana didn't beat Elena for five years,either....yet managed to do it...so your point is moot.She had an EXCELLENT Wimby and it took GOAT Serena to beat her....she's beaten Venus more than once and was plenty close vs. Serena...who was stronger last year.....anyway,her biological clock is ticking so she won't be around much longer:sad:

azdaja
May 19th, 2010, 01:23 PM
i don't feel i'm talking about jj if i ask why people hate ana in spite of her correct behaviour :shrug: it is abut ana. though of course it's probably not worth pondering about.

the other puzzling group are serbian patriots who seem to believe fed cup is the biggest competition in women's tennis and consider ana a traitor :cuckoo: we had some of the fed cup drama in the past even in this forum. i think for such people you need to put posters of ana with trophies AND in front of serbian flag all over serbia. perhaps they will then understand that wherever she wins she does it as a serbian player.

Sure many people act like that but all the hate from GM in TF and in MTF is just not relevant.You have to understand that many of the posters are just kids/teenegers who don`t think rationally.I know it doesn`t justify them but that`s how things are According to them Ana,Serena,Venus,Justine,Caro,Nadal,Federer,Novak, Murray would be the most hated people in the universe and they are not :lol:
Crowd loves them ,or at least doesn`t hate them at all :lol:
well, you are right about that. and is a huge star even though she is sucking now.

i also feel annoyed that ana seems to be trying to please people. i mean, wtf, if fistpumps and ajdes get you going just go ahead and do it. your opponents need to deal with it, it's their problem.

azdaja
May 19th, 2010, 01:32 PM
oh yeah, re: elena's career - i actually remember the moment when i realised she was such a consistent top 10 player. it made me respect her more. but the fact that i didn't realise it until that moment just shows that big titles are more important than ranking. unless a player wins something big and you are not an outright fan you just register her existance and not much else :o

i'd say that nr 1 ranking matters though.

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 01:36 PM
Unless you were jacked up on Mallorca magic mushrooms,you actually watched the match and saw the same thing.....Ana didn't beat Elena for five years,either....yet managed to do it...so your point is moot.She had an EXCELLENT Wimby and it took GOAT Serena to beat her....she's beaten Venus more than once and was plenty close vs. Serena...who was stronger last year.....anyway,her biological clock is ticking so she won't be around much longer:sad:

So she played great in Wimbledon so what? That`s still not argument enough that she would play great in a final .Hello we are talking about Elena here :lol:
But whatever you have your side of a story and i couldn`t care less about Elena really
i don't feel i'm talking about jj if i ask why people hate ana in spite of her correct behaviour :shrug: it is abut ana. though of course it's probably not worth pondering about.

the other puzzling group are serbian patriots who seem to believe fed cup is the biggest competition in women's tennis and consider ana a traitor :cuckoo: we had some of the fed cup drama in the past even in this forum. i think for such people you need to put posters of ana with trophies AND in fromt of serbian flag all over serbia. perhaps they will then understand that wherever she wins she does it as a serbian player.

well, you are right about that. and is a huge star even though she is sucking now.

i also feel annoyed that ana seems to be trying to please people. i mean, wtf, if fistpumps and ajdes get you going just go ahead and do it. your opponents need to deal with it, it's their problem.

That story about Ana and FC is blown out of proportion really.And i`m so annoyed by it :o
Btw i think we have such poster in our airport with Ana and Novak,some other people and sebian flag ofc :lol: :lol:

bruce goose
May 19th, 2010, 01:47 PM
So she played great in Wimbledon so what? That`s still not argument enough that she would play great in a final .Hello we are talking about Elena here :lol:
But whatever you have your side of a story and i couldn`t care less about Elena really


If she's such a scrub,then how did she always kick Ana's ass even when Ana was playing well:confused:Like I said,her Olympic draw was MUCH tougher than Ana's RG 2008...and it took Venus to beat her in the 2000 Olympic final.You're missing the big point...which is that Elena is NOTHING like that other Serbian who badmouths Ana...Elena is true class and is pleased to see Ana recover...so you can't compare her to Ana's haters.....

Davodus
May 19th, 2010, 01:52 PM
If she's such a scrub,then how did she always kick Ana's ass even when Ana was playing well:confused:Like I said,her Olympic draw was MUCH tougher than Ana's RG 2008...and it took Venus to beat her in the 2000 Olympic final.You're missing the big point...which is that Elena is NOTHING like that other Serbian who badmouths Ana...Elena is true class and is pleased to see Ana recover...so you can't compare her to Ana's haters.....

I don't think that's appropriate in this forum...and why are we talking about Elena and her fans :confused: Lets forget about other fanbases for now, and not be bringing ourselves down like that.

The 2nd Law
May 19th, 2010, 01:54 PM
If she's such a scrub,then how did she always kick Ana's ass even when Ana was playing well:confused:Like I said,her Olympic draw was MUCH tougher than Ana's RG 2008...and it took Venus to beat her in the 2000 Olympic final.You're missing the big point...which is that Elena is NOTHING like that other Serbian who badmouths Ana...Elena is true class and is pleased to see Ana recover...so you can't compare her to Ana's haters.....

Bruce, Jelena wasn't comparing Elena to the haters, just her fans. All she said was that Elena's fans are jealous that Ana's got the slam. Jelena then went on to say that she would personally chose Ana's career over Elena's.

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 02:37 PM
So... do you guys think Ana is already in Paris?

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 02:43 PM
i also feel annoyed that ana seems to be trying to please people. i mean, wtf, if fistpumps and ajdes get you going just go ahead and do it. your opponents need to deal with it, it's their problem.


I feel exactly the same. And I do think the fistpumps and ajdes help her keep the intensity up and keep focused, which obviously enhance her performance. It's for her, not for her opponent.. and they should just deal with it. I wish Ana would just fistpump all the way, and stop worrying about others. :o

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Sure many people act like that but all the hate from GM in TF and in MTF is just not relevant.You have to understand that many of the posters are just kids/teenegers who don`t think rationally.I know it doesn`t justify them but that`s how things are According to them Ana,Serena,Venus,Justine,Caro,Nadal,Federer,Novak, Murray would be the most hated people in the universe and they are not :lol:
Crowd loves them ,or at least doesn`t hate them at all :lol:



hey Izzy :)
Exactly :o Even now people call us haters :lol:
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Yeah too much drama :o
I agree on this ,at least i don`t have to worry what she will say in her interviews :worship:


That`s definitely a bad aproach and i mean it .Just be yourself and don`t change things that are working for you. If fistpumping and saying ajde helps you to focus more and be more in a match ,don`t change that .Haters will always find something to complain about bc it`s simply impossible to please everyone :rolleyes:
Besides Nadal never stopped picking his ass :lol:

:lol:

As usual, spot on Jelena!

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 02:45 PM
@ Izzy's essay post: :p Once again, and like always, you are 100% correct. This is why YOU are the mayor of Anapolis :lol:

:p

[QUOTE=Ana 2010'ovic;17786380]We need to take the high road from now on, everyone, because if Ana ever returns to the top level again it will make things so much sweeter :lol:

This!

The 2nd Law
May 19th, 2010, 02:46 PM
I feel exactly the same. And I do think the fistpumps and ajdes help her keep the intensity up and keep focused, which obviously enhance her performance. It's for her, not for her opponent.. and they should just deal with it. I wish Ana would just fistpump all the way, and stop worrying about others. :o

This is from some mug/fuckwhit by name of Bruce Jenkins:

• Parting shot: Perhaps it wasn't the coolest thing to do, and it must be noted that there's bad blood between the two, but I was glad to see Jankovic bitterly mimic Ana Ivanovic's fist-pump after their match in Madrid. The subtle fist-pump has become a pathetic, out-of-control gesture on both tours, with players congratulating themselves after every episode that goes their way. Maria Sharapova crafted it into an art form, but there are countless other violators -- even Andy Roddick, who really should know better.

I hope Ana NEVER sees this, she would probably cry for three hours :( :o Who the hell is he anyway? He then goes on to say that players should celebrate like Nadal does :help:

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 02:47 PM
I don't think that's appropriate in this forum...and why are we talking about Elena and her fans :confused: Lets forget about other fanbases for now, and not be bringing ourselves down like that.

Spot on David! Let's focus on Ana!

I wanted to give you a good rep, but it seems I need to spread around before giving it to you.. :lol:

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 02:49 PM
So... do you guys think Ana is already in Paris?

I hope so :lol:
This waiting for the draw is horrible

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 02:50 PM
This is from some mug/fuckwhit by name of Bruce Jenkins:

I hope Ana NEVER sees this, she would probably cry for three hours :( :o Who the hell is he anyway? He then goes on to say that players should celebrate like Nadal does :help:

There is a lot of WTF? in this article.. a LOT! And not only on him endorsing unsportmanlike behaviour.

I don't think Ana will ever read it, so don't worry.. ;) Unfortunately the issue with fistpumps is already on her head..

Fistpump Ana! Fistpump all the way!

gaviotabr
May 19th, 2010, 02:52 PM
I hope so :lol:
This waiting for the draw is horrible

Only 2 more days...

We should make a group prayer.. Ana needs all the help in the world, and a great draw! :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 19th, 2010, 02:54 PM
There is a lot of WTF? in this article.. a LOT! And not only on him endorsing unsportmanlike behaviour.

I don't think Ana will ever read it, so don't worry.. ;) Unfortunately the issue with fistpumps is already on her head..

Fistpump Ana! Fistpump all the way!

What a mug :help: And some people agreed with him, no prizes for guessing who.


I'm down for the group prayer :lol:

It can start like this: "In the name of the forehand, and of the serve, and of the holy clay courts, Anamen!"

jelenacg
May 19th, 2010, 03:00 PM
We should make a group prayer.. Ana needs all the help in the world, and a great draw! :lol:


I'm down for the group prayer :lol:
It can start like this: "In the name of the forehand, and of the serve, and of the holy clay courts, Anamen!"

:haha::haha:
Amen to that :worship: