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gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 01:55 AM
I don't really see what Ana could have done today. Even if she had a gameplan MJMS wouldn't let Ana execute it. MJMS has a very specific way of playing. Unless you can return her first serve really deep and hard and with a good angle before MJMS gets to the net, which is very very difficult to do, you're basically screwed. There were seriously no rallies today. It was ridiculous. Its clearly frustrating for players to play against her. Even Wozniacki lost. Personally I don't like her way of playing, and I'm not just saying this because she beat Ana. MJMS has amazing volleys and dropshots. But I'm more of a rallies fan.



As for Anas performance this week, can't we just say it as it is? She has definitely improved alot since we last saw her play. She seems to be working hard, and hopefully she will continue growing as a player. Babysteps, remember?

Oh please.. you make MJMS look invincible. She is tricky.. but once you take the game from her, she can't do a thing. Today, Ana just played her game.. heck.. she tried to win in the touch shots battle.. and Ana will never beat someone like MJMS like that. She went for drop shots and slices.. :help: Ana was lost on court and had no idea of what to do. That's why MJMS won.. because Ana didn't take the game away from her.

Seriously... watch MJMS be demolished by JJ tomorrow. It won't even be close. To beat MJMS all you need is hit deep and DTL... and that is what JJ does time and again. And what Ana had to do, instead of anything she did today. She just had the completely wrong game plan. If Ana was able to adapt, she would have easily seen that.. but instead she was just focusing on how nothing worked.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 01:58 AM
Yeah,the actual result was a huge plus,IMO....The only uncertainty now is if Ana is emotionally jilted b/c she expected to win the tourney.You'd hope that she could put things in proper perspective,but the problem is that old Ana(new Ana?)is WAYYYY too overly emotional...even allowing her base emotions to dictate important decisions in life.You'll recall how she totally over-reacted to her defeat to Venus at Wimbledon...though she should have TOTALLY anticipated that loss.My concern is that she may've gotten caught up in the hoopla behind her wins over Elena and Vika...and was crushed when she couldn't go all the way.

Maybe...HOPEFULLY...this is not Ana's mindset right now....I just wouldn't rule out that possibility when considering what Ana has shown us in the past.If her attitude is good now,then she can REALLY build on Rome...even if she loses to JJ in Madrid.

That's my fear.. that this week will just be an oasis in the desert. I think it would have been crucial for her to follow this up with a decent showing in Madrid, but with that draw it's highly unlikely. I'm afraid all the confidence she might have built might just go down the drain in the blink of an eye.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 01:59 AM
NOOOOOOOOO!!!! Well I'll just stick with the video highlights then. Hopefully the Madrid match would somehow raise Ana's morale for French Open even if she were to lose the match....

I honestly doubt losing to JJ would do Ana any good.. they don't like to lose to each other. Remember what happened the last time Ana lost to JJ? Oh yeah.. off season of doom, and slump of epic proportion.

Stevecw
May 8th, 2010, 02:02 AM
I didn't get to see any of her matches this week due to various reasons. But I am happy that she beat some good top 10 players. That must do wonders for her confidence. Todays game sounded a bit weird like she stepped back into the confused, easy to beat Ana.

Lets hope the coaching team make sure that doesn't happen again.

And of course Ana can beat JJ. 1st up JJ will be tired after playing a final, and if she wins lets hope she has a big party with many drinks!!! An on form Ana at her best is always better than JJ, never forget that ;)

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 02:11 AM
I didn't get to see any of her matches this week due to various reasons. But I am happy that she beat some good top 10 players. That must do wonders for her confidence. Todays game sounded a bit weird like she stepped back into the confused, easy to beat Ana.

Lets hope the coaching team make sure that doesn't happen again.

And of course Ana can beat JJ. 1st up JJ will be tired after playing a final, and if she wins lets hope she has a big party with many drinks!!! An on form Ana at her best is always better than JJ, never forget that ;)

I actually think the more JJ plays the better she gets.. I don't expect her to be any tired at all. And we have to agree Ana's game is not at a good level yet... it's at a decent level. She had some help from her opponent's UEs to win this week truth to be told. And not only is JJ not going to give her that.. but she is also going to return a whole bunch of balls... Ana is still walking on a bit of a limbo in a way that she can fall into confident Ana or desperate Ana at any time. Her self-belief is not stabilized yet.

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 02:12 AM
I honestly doubt losing to JJ would do Ana any good.. they don't like to lose to each other. Remember what happened the last time Ana lost to JJ? Oh yeah.. off season of doom, and slump of epic proportion.....And about a month later she dumped her bf...after two-timing on him with some third-rate loser coke-sniffing douchebag who got her head all f--ked up.....I'd be happy if she stopped at Step One of that previous process:p

Seriously,Izzy,if Ana can be competitive with JJ,then I don't think it will be as demoralizing as a blowout would be........but competitivenes is certainly no guarantee:unsure:...we'll see what happens

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 02:13 AM
....And about a month later she dumped her bf...and started twotiming on him with some third-rate loser douchebag who got her head all f--ked up.....I'd be happy if she stopped at Step One of that previous process:p

Seriously,Izzy,if Ana can be competitive with JJ,then I don't think it will be as demoralizing as a blowout would be........but competitivenes is certainly no guarantee:unsure:...we'll see what happens

Don't think it matters much in this case.

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 02:17 AM
Don't think it matters much in this case.I tentatively disagree;if she can make it close vs. a hot player who just won a Premier event,then Heinz might be able to convince her that it wasn't so bad.....Who knows??Maybe one of JJ's ex-bfs,with whom she has bad memories,will bump into her at the Player Party:p

InsideOut.
May 8th, 2010, 02:18 AM
I honestly doubt losing to JJ would do Ana any good.. they don't like to lose to each other. Remember what happened the last time Ana lost to JJ? Oh yeah.. off season of doom, and slump of epic proportion.

Remember what happened the first time Ana lost to JJ?

She won Montreal :p

Stevecw
May 8th, 2010, 02:27 AM
I actually think the more JJ plays the better she gets.. I don't expect her to be any tired at all. And we have to agree Ana's game is not at a good level yet... it's at a decent level. She had some help from her opponent's UEs to win this week truth to be told. And not only is JJ not going to give her that.. but she is also going to return a whole bunch of balls... Ana is still walking on a bit of a limbo in a way that she can fall into confident Ana or desperate Ana at any time. Her self-belief is not stabilized yet.


Yeah damn it, you speak too much sense!! I was dreaming a bit, but yeah I know Ana can still go either way. The JJ game will tell so so much.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 02:34 AM
Remember what happened the first time Ana lost to JJ?

She won Montreal :p

I would definitely be okay with Ana winning RG.. :lol:

Back to Earth.. at the present situation, I believe it would be SO important to follow this up.. so she gets reasurance that she is indeed moving foward, that it was not just a short lived dream run. A first match loss can't do her any good.. especially against JJ.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 02:35 AM
I tentatively disagree;if she can make it close vs. a hot player who just won a Premier event,then Heinz might be able to convince her that it wasn't so bad.....Who knows??Maybe one of JJ's ex-bfs,with whom she has bad memories,will bump into her at the Player Party:p

If she made it close against Serena or Justine, I could see your point. But Ana hates to lose to JJ and I hardly think Heinz would convice her that was good.

InsideOut.
May 8th, 2010, 02:38 AM
If she made it close against Serena or Justine, I could see your point. But Ana hates to lose to JJ and I hardly think Heinz would convice her that was good.

Well who knows, maybe Ana will come out of the blocks totally pissed off that 'THAAATTTTT BITCH!!!!!111!!!1' is on the other side of the net and starts hitting that forehand as hard as she can into JJ's FH corner :hearts: Then she sees Snezana's little water bottle act and goes berserk - serves in JJ's body and then SMASH that overhead so hard that it bounces up and lands on Sneki's head :confused:

Oh wait :unsure:

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 02:44 AM
If she made it close against Serena or Justine, I could see your point. But Ana hates to lose to JJ and I hardly think Heinz would convice her that was good.How can you refer to it as a rule,though??It's only happened twice...once long ago and the other at YEC 2008 when she was sick....It's not like we have a pattern to measure her reaction by(though I believe,of course,that there IS a degree of rivalry)......The JJ loss at YEC isn't what broke Ana;it was an offseason where she wandered away from tennis mentally,internally questioning her purpose in the sport...it didn't help that she contracted an Anal Tumor from some exposed Toxic Waste at a Rolex event......Btw,I saw today on the Rolex website where they have an affirmative action hiring program for pedophiles,arsonists and guys who sell narcotics to schoolchildren:eek:

Curtos07
May 8th, 2010, 02:52 AM
Well who knows, maybe Ana will come out of the blocks totally pissed off that 'THAAATTTTT BITCH!!!!!111!!!1' is on the other side of the net and starts hitting that forehand as hard as she can into JJ's FH corner :hearts: Then she sees Snezana's little water bottle act and goes berserk - serves in JJ's body and then SMASH that overhead so hard that it bounces up and lands on Sneki's head :confused:

Oh wait :unsure:

:lol: Sneki's comments should be enough to motivate Ana to play her best tennis against JJ. I am looking forward to this battle.

One positive about Ana's loss today, she can't lose to JJ two times in a row. Unless of course, she draws her in the 1st round at RG. :tape:

InsideOut.
May 8th, 2010, 02:54 AM
:lol: Sneki's comments should be enough to motivate Ana to play her best tennis against JJ. I am looking forward to this battle.

One positive about Ana's loss today, she can't lose to JJ two times in a row. Unless of course, she draws her in the 1st round at RG. :tape:

Stop assuming here :shrug: Even if she draws JJ 1st round at RG, JJ will be the one losing twice in a row :hug:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 02:59 AM
:lol: Sneki's comments should be enough to motivate Ana to play her best tennis against JJ. I am looking forward to this battle.

One positive about Ana's loss today, she can't lose to JJ two times in a row. Unless of course, she draws her in the 1st round at RG. :tape:

That's the only positive.. but it cost her a RG seeding. Now watch her draw Justine in the first round. :sad:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 02:59 AM
Well who knows, maybe Ana will come out of the blocks totally pissed off that 'THAAATTTTT BITCH!!!!!111!!!1' is on the other side of the net and starts hitting that forehand as hard as she can into JJ's FH corner :hearts: Then she sees Snezana's little water bottle act and goes berserk - serves in JJ's body and then SMASH that overhead so hard that it bounces up and lands on Sneki's head :confused:

Oh wait :unsure:

Then you wake up!

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 03:49 AM
I missed the match, but I'm so disappointed to read that Ana tried to out-MJMS MJMS. Seems like she had a terrible gameplan.

Pops Maellard
May 8th, 2010, 08:09 AM
Bruce, you sounded very American. I figured you'd sound like a Mexican guy speaking English? :p

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 8th, 2010, 10:15 AM
A lot of opinion here I see again.
This week is of course a big thing for Ana. Climbs in the rankings a lot more confidence and her level is improving.
A bad result in Madrid won't mean anything. Now she draws JJ so that can do more good than bad. Winning that match gives her only more confidence and the draw would be easier.
She also reached the 3rd round then.
She can lose to JJ cause that's a player in form. But still she has to show her confidence in that match and fight hard.
After Wimbledon we can really say I guess if Ana is really coming back. That's 4 tournaments. If she falls back again we early exits againsts players she shouldn't lost to, then I don't know how she reacts. Will be a lot of frustrating and then following a wrong path. Of course she can also be unlucky with the draw. Henin in R1 at RG and a Williams at Wimbledon R1. That's just winning the worst lottery.

Ana's serve is certainly improving. Not that many aces but a lot of winners with it. That's a really good thing cause mostly her game is build on that. Also the BH was way better this week. Also moves better and hopefully that continues cause it's not good enough. What can be a problem is that she's too long playing so passive. Whole 2009 was like that and her FH is not what is was. Already started in 2008 and now she really misses that weapon. Still can score points with it, but not the shot that everyone feared. She says she wants to become a complete player. That shouldn't mean that all shots have a decent level. Put some power in that FH again. It's her best shot and hopefully she will use it like that again. In the past it was like if her serve & FH was down her game was lost. Then it's good to work on the weaker things but the FH still has to stand. It should make the difference between the good players and the best players.
If she's working on that then I'm ok with it.

Cp6uja
May 8th, 2010, 11:09 AM
A lot of opinion here I see again.
This week is of course a big thing for Ana. Climbs in the rankings a lot more confidence and her level is improving.
A bad result in Madrid won't mean anything. Now she draws JJ so that can do more good than bad. Winning that match gives her only more confidence and the draw would be easier.
She also reached the 3rd round then.
She can lose to JJ cause that's a player in form. But still she has to show her confidence in that match and fight hard.
After Wimbledon we can really say I guess if Ana is really coming back. That's 4 tournaments. If she falls back again we early exits againsts players she shouldn't lost to, then I don't know how she reacts. Will be a lot of frustrating and then following a wrong path. Of course she can also be unlucky with the draw. Henin in R1 at RG and a Williams at Wimbledon R1. That's just winning the worst lottery.

Ana's serve is certainly improving. Not that many aces but a lot of winners with it. That's a really good thing cause mostly her game is build on that. Also the BH was way better this week. Also moves better and hopefully that continues cause it's not good enough. What can be a problem is that she's too long playing so passive. Whole 2009 was like that and her FH is not what is was. Already started in 2008 and now she really misses that weapon. Still can score points with it, but not the shot that everyone feared. She says she wants to become a complete player. That shouldn't mean that all shots have a decent level. Put some power in that FH again. It's her best shot and hopefully she will use it like that again. In the past it was like if her serve & FH was down her game was lost. Then it's good to work on the weaker things but the FH still has to stand. It should make the difference between the good players and the best players.
If she's working on that then I'm ok with it.You present NORMAL scenario, but there is one big problem. Roland Garros which surface suits perfectly to Ana should be peak of every Ana season (like for Henin, or Wimbledon for Venus), so for her 2010 success is actually way more important to be at least 80% ready for Paris, than 100% for US Open! That is catch. For Ivanovic with Wimbledon finish not just 1st half of season like for others players, but 3/4 of season (she already waste january-april medium-HC period on worst possible way where she in past have good success, especially at IW & AO)! Ana best 2005 achievement is RG QF, best 2007 is RG final and best 2008 RG title. In 2006 and 2009 already after RG in june we already knows that this seasons will be count like stagnation and disappointment in her career. So this two events (RG and Wimbledon) in next two months are crucial for whole this season, not just like "preparation" for 2nd half. Talking about Ana's forehand comeback I totally agree that this is most important question about Ana, and that's why I'm been so happy when she hire former Graf's long-term coach which whole career is based on that shot.

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 11:19 AM
I think power of Ana`s FH is related with her confidence
Same with Rafa`s FH last year and this year .It`s all in the head imo
She really had bad luck with the draw ,stupid Madrid :rolleyes: From all the top players she had to drew JJ :rolleyes:

And to make it even worse she drew JJ after we learned JJ` mother follows Ana`s loves life very closely :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 8th, 2010, 11:22 AM
I think power of Ana`s FH is related with her confidence
Same with Rafa`s FH last year and this year .It`s all in the head imo
She really had bad luck with the draw ,stupid Madrid :rolleyes: From all the top players she had to drew JJ :rolleyes:

And to make it even worse she drew JJ after we learned JJ` mother follows Ana`s loves life very closely :lol:

Maybe Dragana can scream some ajdes in their match, I'm sure this would impress Snezana to no end :lol:

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 11:32 AM
Maybe Dragana can scream some ajdes in their match, I'm sure this would impress Snezana to no end :lol:

Both Snezana and JJ :lol:
Maybe she can take Snezana`s bottle of water before the match :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 8th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Both Snezana and JJ :lol:
Maybe she can take Snezana`s bottle of water before the match :lol:

Too far! Snezana would die of either a panic attack or dehydration :p:lol: That was very mean of you Jelena! :devil:

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 12:17 PM
Too far! Snezana would die of either a panic attack or dehydration :p:lol: That was very mean of you Jelena! :devil:

:lol:
I`m not that bad :spit:
Speaking of horrible draw...Dinara vs Justine R2 :speakles:
I`m sorry for Dinara even if i`m not a fan.She really needed a better draw here ,lots of points to defend in Madrid and Paris

gloria7
May 8th, 2010, 12:46 PM
I'm off topic here,but Bruce,i need your help.Can you,please,translate this?
"Tambien tendra encuentros amorosos jamas vividos a su temprana edad.El amor vendra para quedarse".

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 12:50 PM
A lot of opinion here I see again.
This week is of course a big thing for Ana. Climbs in the rankings a lot more confidence and her level is improving.
A bad result in Madrid won't mean anything. Now she draws JJ so that can do more good than bad. Winning that match gives her only more confidence and the draw would be easier.
She also reached the 3rd round then.
She can lose to JJ cause that's a player in form. But still she has to show her confidence in that match and fight hard.
After Wimbledon we can really say I guess if Ana is really coming back. That's 4 tournaments. If she falls back again we early exits againsts players she shouldn't lost to, then I don't know how she reacts. Will be a lot of frustrating and then following a wrong path. Of course she can also be unlucky with the draw. Henin in R1 at RG and a Williams at Wimbledon R1. That's just winning the worst lottery.

Ana's serve is certainly improving. Not that many aces but a lot of winners with it. That's a really good thing cause mostly her game is build on that. Also the BH was way better this week. Also moves better and hopefully that continues cause it's not good enough. What can be a problem is that she's too long playing so passive. Whole 2009 was like that and her FH is not what is was. Already started in 2008 and now she really misses that weapon. Still can score points with it, but not the shot that everyone feared. She says she wants to become a complete player. That shouldn't mean that all shots have a decent level. Put some power in that FH again. It's her best shot and hopefully she will use it like that again. In the past it was like if her serve & FH was down her game was lost. Then it's good to work on the weaker things but the FH still has to stand. It should make the difference between the good players and the best players.
If she's working on that then I'm ok with it.

Hey Sjoerd!

I agree with you.. Ana did play passive this week.. and in a way it's a way of stabilizing her game.. but it definitely ignores a bit her strengths. I hope to see her hitting her forehand with conviction and power again, dominating with it. It is key for her game.

And as I've said many times.. the next few tournaments are crucial. She needs to have another good run somewhere.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 12:51 PM
I'm off topic here,but Bruce,i need your help.Can you,please,translate this?
"Tambien tendra encuentros amorosos jamas vividos a su temprana edad.El amor vendra para quedarse".

I'm not Bruce, but I can tranlate it:

"He will also have love encounters never before lived in his young age. Love will come to stay."

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 12:53 PM
You present NORMAL scenario, but there is one big problem. Roland Garros which surface suits perfectly to Ana should be peak of every Ana season (like for Henin, or Wimbledon for Venus), so for her 2010 success is actually way more important to be at least 80% ready for Paris, than 100% for US Open! That is catch. For Ivanovic with Wimbledon finish not just 1st half of season like for others players, but 3/4 of season (she already waste january-april medium-HC period on worst possible way where she in past have good success, especially at IW & AO)! Ana best 2005 achievement is RG QF, best 2007 is RG final and best 2008 RG title. In 2006 and 2009 already after RG in june we already knows that this seasons will be count like stagnation and disappointment in her career. So this two events (RG and Wimbledon) in next two months are crucial for whole this season, not just like "preparation" for 2nd half. Talking about Ana's forehand comeback I totally agree that this is most important question about Ana, and that's why I'm been so happy when she hire former Graf's long-term coach which whole career is based on that shot.

Cp6uja, we actually agree in something! Amazeballs! :spit:

A good run in RG would be really important for Ana. So lets hope she gets some luck with the draw.. she missed out on a huge chance of getting a seeding... so she might face anyone on the first round.

Davodus
May 8th, 2010, 12:57 PM
Hey Sjoerd!

I agree with you.. Ana did play passive this week.. and in a way it's a way of stabilizing her game.. but it definitely ignores a bit her strengths. I hope to see her hitting her forehand with conviction and power again, dominating with it. It is key for her game.

And as I've said many times.. the next few tournaments are crucial. She needs to have another good run somewhere.

I think the passive play was great for getting some confidence back with wins, but it can't stay around, exactly like you said. In particular for her match against Jankovic next week. Being passive will not win her that match, she has to dominate with her forehand like she has every other time she has beaten Jankovic. Moonball backhands to Jankovic's forehand always seem to work when they play, but she needs to really hit out with her forehand to win that match.

The 2nd Law
May 8th, 2010, 12:57 PM
:lol:
I`m not that bad :spit:
Speaking of horrible draw...Dinara vs Justine R2 :speakles:
I`m sorry for Dinara even if i`m not a fan.She really needed a better draw here ,lots of points to defend in Madrid and Paris

Yeah, Dinara is headed South :( It must be horrible to have an injury absolutely destroy all the hard work you've put in to establish yourself in the top ten. She will have to do it all over again. What a shame, Dinara was a much better number 2 than Caro! (I won't discuss #1 :lol:)

The 2nd Law
May 8th, 2010, 12:58 PM
I think the passive play was great for getting some confidence back with wins, but it can't stay around, exactly like you said. In particular for her match against Jankovic next week. Being passive will not win her that match, she has to dominate with her forehand like she has every other time she has beaten Jankovic. Moonball backhands to Jankovic's forehand always seem to work when they play, but she needs to really hit out with her forehand to win that match.

I am craving to see that forehand firing again. I hope she gets fired up for Jelena.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 01:04 PM
I think the passive play was great for getting some confidence back with wins, but it can't stay around, exactly like you said. In particular for her match against Jankovic next week. Being passive will not win her that match, she has to dominate with her forehand like she has every other time she has beaten Jankovic. Moonball backhands to Jankovic's forehand always seem to work when they play, but she needs to really hit out with her forehand to win that match.

Spot on David. It was Ana trusting her forehand to win the points that got all her 6 wins against JJ.

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 01:13 PM
Going back to a previous discussion point, I actually thought Ana seemed a bit more pissed off than dejected about this loss, like she knows she could and should have won. That's a good sign.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Going back to a previous discussion point, I actually thought Ana seemed a bit more pissed off than dejected about this loss, like she knows she could and should have won. That's a good sign.

Hey DTL!

I thought she looked lost... and when she called Heinz over that she didn't think she could do anything.. she was pissed off about the match, but not in a good way.. no in a way to motivate her.. but in a way to discourage herself. :tape:

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 01:33 PM
Hey DTL!

I thought she looked lost... and when she called Heinz over that she didn't think she could do anything.. she was pissed off about the match, but not in a good way.. no in a way to motivate her.. but in a way to discourage herself. :tape:

That coaching session with Heinz was very negative, but I just got the feeling that Ana wants to go practice and get on court again for another match. I guess we'll see what happens in Madrid. I don't expect her to beat JJ, but, if she somehow would, that would be the biggest confidence-booster ever. Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't think Ana will be too discouraged. Hopefully Heinz puts everything in the right light for her.

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 01:33 PM
I didn`t watch the match or Ana`s reaction to the same but being pissed off means that she cares and that`s always good .No matter how it looks in that moment

I read that interview with Heinz,he was very spot on about Ana :worship:
Injuries,poor training ,lack of motivation.... When we talked about this we were called bad fans :lol::lol:

It doesn`t matter if she was pissed off in a bad or good way as long as the next day after the defeat she is still wanting to work harder and improve her game .That`s something she has been missing ...after horrible results she would just go waging and forget about tennis :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 01:40 PM
That coaching session with Heinz was very negative, but I just got the feeling that Ana wants to go practice and get on court again for another match. I guess we'll see what happens in Madrid. I don't expect her to beat JJ, but, if she somehow would, that would be the biggest confidence-booster ever. Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't think Ana will be too discouraged. Hopefully Heinz puts everything in the right light for her.

Beating JJ would be huge for sure. I just think Ana's game is not there yet.. :sobbing:

I think she needs to have a consistent run of results right now, so I hope she can have a good RG.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 01:44 PM
I didn`t watch the match or Ana`s reaction to the same but being pissed off means that she cares and that`s always good .No matter how it looks in that moment

I read that interview with Heinz,he was very spot on about Ana :worship:
Injuries,poor training ,lack of motivation.... When we talked about this we were called bad fans :lol::lol:

It doesn`t matter if she was pissed off in a bad or good way as long as the next day after the defeat she is still wanting to work harder and improve her game .That`s something she has been missing ...after horrible results she would just go waging and forget about tennis :rolleyes:

Hey Jelena!

I told you it was a nice interview. I really hope they can keep working together.

I don't know.. the coaching time out there was really negative.. just like the coaching time outs she had with Kardon, that she wasn't even listening to him and kept complaining about anything and everything, as if she couldn't do a thing to turn it around. It was kind of a return to the past for me, after seeing her so composed in previous matches. And I have to say it gave me chills.. Ana's attitude has been so bad for so long, and last match was just like these past 2 years.

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Hey Jelena!

I told you it was a nice interview. I really hope they can keep working together.

I don't know.. the coaching time out there was really negative.. just like the coaching time outs she had with Kardon, that she wasn't even listening to him and kept complaining about anything and everything, as if she couldn't do a thing to turn it around. It was kind of a return to the past for me, after seeing her so composed in previous matches. And I have to say it gave me chills.. Ana's attitude has been so bad for so long, and last match was just like these past 2 years.

You were right,it was a good interview :)
I might be wrong but i`m sure we`ll see more of these kind of attitudes .Simply bc people don`t change overnight ,and this was only one good week
Ana needs to continue improving and she needs to stay focused and determined
She will have these kind of `attitudes` from time to time but if she continues working hard with Heinz on mental part of her game these things will eventually disappear

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 02:06 PM
You were right,it was a good interview :)
I might be wrong but i`m sure we`ll see more of these kind of attitudes .Simply bc people don`t change overnight ,and this was only one good week
Ana needs to continue improving and she needs to stay focused and determined
She will have these kind of `attitudes` from time to time but if she continues working hard with Heinz on mental part of her game these things will eventually disappear

I hope you are right!

And yes.. this is just a step.. she needs to keep making steps foward. Things won't change overnight.. she needs a lot of steps foward to be strong enough to avoid falling back into that negative place.

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 02:18 PM
I hope you are right!

And yes.. this is just a step.. she needs to keep making steps foward. Things won't change overnight.. she needs a lot of steps foward to be strong enough to avoid falling back into that negative place.

Yes,lot of work in front of her if she really wants to improve.
Btw i watched parts of her match against Vika .Weird match :lol: Vika calling for her coach after she had like 10 minutes long MTO :spit: WTA :lol:

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 02:38 PM
For what it's worth, Martinez Sanchez is playing excellent tennis the final. She's currently up 4-1 in the first set.

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 02:41 PM
I'm not Bruce, but I can tranlate it:

"He will also have love encounters never before lived in his young age. Love will come to stay."Except it cold just as easily mean "SHE" and not "HE",depending on the context.....Sorry,Gloria;I would have sent you a PM,but I was sleeping peacefully until now.....And Aaron,I explained my lack of accent to you long ago...but this is ANA'S thread....NOT Ana's fans' Messenger/Skype thread

Davodus
May 8th, 2010, 02:42 PM
Spot on David. It was Ana trusting her forehand to win the points that got all her 6 wins against JJ.

Yep. I watched her match vs JJ at RG 08 today, as my own way to get good vibes to Ana for their upcoming match :lol: and anyway, I noticed she had a very successful pattern of play with moonball backhands down the line, which JJ inevitably replied with forehands down the line, that Ana eventually got an opportunity to attack when they went a bit shorter. Running around her backhand, trusting that she can dominate the match on her own terms with her forehand is how she has to play this match, to win it. I really hope she does.

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Damn. Jankovic looks totally desperate on court. She has no clue what to do right now.

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Yes,lot of work in front of her if she really wants to improve.
Btw i watched parts of her match against Vika .Weird match :lol: Vika calling for her coach after she had like 10 minutes long MTO :spit: WTA :lol:In re your earlier post,aren't you glad that Ana has visibly improved.....so that you and I don't have to lie about her performance in order to not 'scare people from coming to the forum':p

InsideOut.
May 8th, 2010, 02:51 PM
Things are happening to JJ just as I expected them to. I knew she would have trouble.

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 03:03 PM
Everyone's discussing JJ-MJMS...and ignoring the epic encounter between APS and AS in Estoril......I'm just assuming that it's raining in Portugal right now cuz there aren't any scores posted ANYwhere.....If it's a big enough storm,then I suppose that it could head eastward into Spain and delay the Madrid schedule somewhat

InsideOut.
May 8th, 2010, 03:11 PM
MJMS could have choked yesterday...but no...it had to be today :rolleyes:

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 03:13 PM
MJMS could have choked yesterday...but no...it had to be today :rolleyes:

LOL. My thoughts exactly.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 03:14 PM
MJMS could have choked yesterday...but no...it had to be today :rolleyes:

Ana doesn't allow anyone to choke against her. :shrug: She missed too many returns of serve to let anyone choke.

JJ, on the other hand, is master of waiting around, keeping close and giving the opponents the opportunity to choke. And this is a final.. MJMS was bound to be more nervous.

I'm not watching.. but I'm surprised JJ even had problems with her..

InsideOut.
May 8th, 2010, 03:16 PM
Ana doesn't allow anyone to choke against her. :shrug: She missed too many returns of serve to let anyone choke.

JJ, on the other hand, is master of waiting around, keeping close and giving the opponents the opportunity to choke. And this is a final.. MJMS was bound to be more nervous.

I'm not watching.. but I'm surprised JJ even had problems with her..

I'm not. JJ always had trouble with variety players and net-rushers too...see Mauresmo's H2H with her, and Schnyder's.

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 03:18 PM
LOL. MJMS is making some BAD errors.

This should have been a 6-2 or 6-3 set, but Jankovic is probably going to win it now.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 03:18 PM
I'm not. JJ always had trouble with variety players and net-rushers too...see Mauresmo's H2H with her, and Schnyder's.

But MJMS is not in their league honestly. And JJ knows how to adapt...

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 03:21 PM
LOL. MJMS is making some BAD errors.

She didn't make one against Ana.. :sobbing:

Though.. I do think that if Ana had made that passing shot at 4-5* in the first, and broken MJMS to draw equal in the first set, she would have started to make those bad errors. She is a major choker when under pressure. I remember she was once 6-1 4-0 up against Radwanska, and ended up losing 1-6 6-4 6-1 or something like that. :lol:

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 03:22 PM
You know that you've got an MM tourney when it doesn't even have a live scoring thread...or when no one complains about the lack of updates:lol:.Still,someone please humor me and confirm:IS it,in fact,raining in Estoril...or was the final quashed due to some kind of injury default??

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 03:25 PM
You know that you've got an MM tourney when it doesn't even have a live scoring thread...or when no one complains about the lack of updates:lol:.Still,someone please humor me and confirm:IS it,in fact,raining in Estoril...or was the final quashed due to some kind of injury default??

It's raining there Bruce. I read it on twitter.

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 03:25 PM
You know that you've got an MM tourney when it doesn't even have a live scoring thread...or when no one complains about the lack of updates:lol:.Still,someone please humor me and confirm:IS it,in fact,raining in Estoril...or was the final quashed due to some kind of injury default??

Yes it is :lol:
On my tv it says ATP Estoril rain delay
Btw i didn`t know we scared people here :lol:

InsideOut.
May 8th, 2010, 03:27 PM
Tiebreak :yippee: Enough choking stupid MJMS. :rolleyes: If you beat Ana you win the title :o

Davodus
May 8th, 2010, 03:29 PM
She didn't make one against Ana.. :sobbing:

Though.. I do think that if Ana had made that passing shot at 4-5* in the first, and broken MJMS to draw equal in the first set, she would have started to make those bad errors. She is a major choker when under pressure. I remember she was once 6-1 4-0 up against Radwanska, and ended up losing 1-6 6-4 6-1 or something like that. :lol:

Against Lucie in Miami this year, she was up 6-4 5-2, same as against Ana, she had 3 MPs and Lucie ended up beating her 4-6 7-6 6-2...she really does choke if you give her the chance.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Against Lucie in Miami this year, she was up 6-4 5-2, same as against Ana, she had 3 MPs and Lucie ended up beating her 4-6 7-6 6-2...she really does choke if you give her the chance.

Yes... she does. Ana is just not a good player of letting someone choke. When MJMS served for the match yesterday, Ana already had that "this is over" look.. and made the UEs to go with it. That takes away pressure from MJMS and she was able to hit a couple of good shots as well.

But if you hang on, and give her the chance.. she can definitely choke badly.

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 03:36 PM
Haha. MJMS somehow fights back and gets 2 SPs.

ETA: And she wins the first set! 7-6(5)

Davodus
May 8th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Yes... she does. Ana is just not a good player of letting someone choke. When MJMS served for the match yesterday, Ana already had that "this is over" look.. and made the UEs to go with it. That takes away pressure from MJMS and she was able to hit a couple of good shots as well.

But if you hang on, and give her the chance.. she can definitely choke badly.

As a fan, I really hate seeing people just lose to love or something in the last game. Putting up a fight even in losing is really important, because you just never know. You have to make them win it, Ana didn't do that yesterday...she USED to do that though :lol:

I'm really worried this week is gonna turn out to be a flash in the pan, and she wont really come out of her slump. I'm very happy for her to prove me wrong though.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 03:41 PM
As a fan, I really hate seeing people just lose to love or something in the last game. Putting up a fight even in losing is really important, because you just never know. You have to make them win it, Ana didn't do that yesterday...she USED to do that though :lol:

I'm really worried this week is gonna turn out to be a flash in the pan, and she wont really come out of her slump. I'm very happy for her to prove me wrong though.

That's my fear as well.. that this is just an oasis in the desert. Especially seeing the Madrid draw.. and how Ana won't be seeded at RG. She is still fragile.. if she loses early in both tournaments, the self doubt can easily return, and even stronger.

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 03:45 PM
Yes it is :lol:
On my tv it says ATP Estoril rain delay
Btw i didn`t know we scared people here :lol:Thanks to you and our lovely brasilera mayor for answering my question:smooch:....

....And yes,we were 'worse than haters',don't you remember?:p We were 'scaring' people b/c we were SUPPOSED to say: "Ana isn't practicing or showing ANY interest in tennis cuz she's hanging out with a coke-sniffing douchebag....:woohoo::yippee::crazy:AJDE!AJDE!AJDE !We're so HAPPY!:D:D:D"

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 03:55 PM
Thanks to you and our lovely brasilera mayor for answering my question:smooch:....

....And yes,we were 'worse than haters',don't you remember?:p We were 'scaring' people b/c we were SUPPOSED to say: "Ana isn't practicing or showing ANY interest in tennis cuz she's hanging out with a coke-sniffing douchebag....:woohoo::yippee::crazy:AJDE!AJDE!AJDE !We're so HAPPY!:D:D:D"

:lol:
Meh people make mistakes and i thought our mayor resigned :spit::lol:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 04:03 PM
:lol:
Meh people make mistakes and i thought our mayor resigned :spit::lol:

:lol:

I'm not a mayor anymore.. I resigned.. true! :lol: I nominate you for new mayor Jelena! :lol:

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 04:10 PM
I have to give MJMS credit. She's hitting some beautiful shots.

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 04:21 PM
:lol:

I'm not a mayor anymore.. I resigned.. true! :lol: I nominate you for new mayor Jelena! :lol:

No, thank you very much :lol:
Besides i never said people of Anapolis accepted your resignation :spit::lol:

I have to give MJMS credit. She's hitting some beautiful shots.

True,she plays really well .I was :eek: at some of her shots :lol:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 04:22 PM
No, thank you very much :lol:
Besides i never said people of Anapolis accepted you resignation :spit::lol:


:lol:

Nobody has to accept anything.. :p I resigned and that's it! :p:lol:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 04:26 PM
I think MJMS will choke like there is no tomorrow.

JJ has to consider herself a bit lucky this week.. faces the biggest choke I've ever seen from Serena.. and then the nervous choking version of MJMS. :spit:

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 04:30 PM
:lol:

Nobody has to accept anything.. :p I resigned and that's it! :p:lol:

No it`s not :lol: Not in Anapolis :lol:
Drop shot return from MJMS :spit:

Davodus
May 8th, 2010, 04:34 PM
I can't believe miss dropshot won this tournament...

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 04:35 PM
I think MJMS will choke like there is no tomorrow.



:spit::lol:
You were saying ...:lol:
Seriously MJMS :worship: Just stay away from Ana :lol:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 04:35 PM
I think MJMS will choke like there is no tomorrow.

JJ has to consider herself a bit lucky this week.. faces the biggest choke I've ever seen from Serena.. and then the nervous choking version of MJMS. :spit:

Or not..

:lol:

I was sure MJMS would choke. She won the tournament without the loss of a set. Impressive.

Dexter
May 8th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Or not..

:lol:

I was sure MJMS would choke. She won the tournament without the loss of a set. Impressive.Kudryavtseva took her to 3 sets in the 1st round. ;)

Really happy she won. At least Ana lost to an eventual champion.

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 8th, 2010, 04:38 PM
Now I dont feel so bad about Ana's loss yesterday.

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 04:38 PM
Kudryavtseva took her to 3 sets in the 1st round. ;)

Really happy she won. At least Ana lost to an eventual champion.

Oh.. sorry! :lol: I looked at the web to see and I guess the first round scaped me. Still impressive I guess.

DownTheLine21
May 8th, 2010, 04:39 PM
I'm surprised Jankovic couldn't even take a set off of MJMS.

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 04:49 PM
I`m really surprised by the level of play from MJMS .No wonder Ana was pissed off :lol:
If she played like this every week she could be top 10 player
I also like the idea that Ana lost to eventual champion

HowardH
May 8th, 2010, 04:59 PM
I`m really surprised by the level of play from MJMS .No wonder Ana was pissed off :lol:
If she played like this every week she could be top 10 player
I also like the idea that Ana lost to eventual champion

Yes, MJMS played amazing. If she played like this every week definitely she would be a top player. JJ tested her much more than Ana did, but she was up to it. She played much better than I have seen her play previously. Normally MJMS makes a lot more unforced errors on her groundies, particularly the fh. This is also the best I've seen her with her volleys and drop shots. She can miss those sometimes, but really had the touch this time. And I've seen a few of her matches where she basically couldn't land the first serve at all, which made it impossible for her to serve and volley. I guess this was her perfect tournament. In Madrid she will probably lose to Stosur in her first match though, Stosur has enormous power and should be able to blow her off the court, plus Stosur is one of the few wta players who can actually take the net from her. It's possible that MJMS can play like this but still play terribly in the FO, I've seen her be really bad before. But playing like this, she could make a run there. It is nice that Ana loses to the eventual champion, it's better for her psychologically. If JJ had destroyed MJMS Ana would have lost a lot of confidence.

gloria7
May 8th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Izzy...Bruce,thanks for translation.
Montanes wins first set against Federer 62

Curtos07
May 8th, 2010, 06:30 PM
I just read MJMS beat JJ. :lol: This makes me feel a lot better about Ana's loss yesterday. I thought this would be an quick and easy straight sets win for Jankovic. Just hope she doesn't take her anger out on Ana, which she probably will. :tape:

spiritedenergy
May 8th, 2010, 06:41 PM
MJMS won!:eek:

Ana you lost against the champion if that makes you feel better:hug:

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 08:06 PM
No it`s not :lol: Not in Anapolis :lol:
Jelena,I'm not sure you remembered this,but Valentine's Day is coming up in June in Brasil and...w/o revealing anything private:angel:....I can say with reasonable confidence that Izzy won't be ignored...and that'll put her in more of a mayoring mood:p

Izzy(while getting soothing backrub from Contador Zorro on the couch) ::sad:I'm really worried about Ana.I'm afraid about how she'll prepare for Wimby after last year's disaster(blah,blah,blah....
CZ::hearts:(mi carin~a)
Izzy:...(blah,blah,blah)I think she'll have such trouble maintaining her concentr---MMMMMPHHH!!!
CZ::kiss::kiss::kiss::kiss::inlove:
Izzy: (:DThen again,Ana might be just fine!):kiss::kiss::kiss::kiss::inlove:

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Btw,I agree with the posters who say that Maria's victory over JJ could mitigate Ana's loss;Heinz can use that as a way to keep her confidence from tumbling too much...hopefully,she really HAS that attitude she described in the articles' thread

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Jelena,I'm not sure you remembered this,but Valentine's Day is coming up in June in Brasil and...w/o revealing anything private:angel:....I can say with reasonable confidence that Izzy won't be ignored...and that'll put her in more of a mayoring mood:p

Izzy(while getting soothing backrub from Contador Zorro on the couch) ::sad:I'm really worried about Ana.I'm afraid about how she'll prepare for Wimby after last year's disaster(blah,blah,blah....
CZ::hearts:(mi carin~a)
Izzy:...(blah,blah,blah)I think she'll have such trouble maintaining her concentr---MMMMMPHHH!!!
CZ::kiss::kiss::kiss::kiss::inlove:
Izzy: (:DThen again,Ana might be just fine!):kiss::kiss::kiss::kiss::inlove:

You have a huge imagination! :lol:

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 08:39 PM
Kuzzy lost.. again. Is there some spell on the RG trophy? She is going Ana's way with the slump.. :tape:

The bottom half of Madrid is ridiculous.. it's so top heavy. :o

spiritedenergy
May 8th, 2010, 08:51 PM
wow madrid already started?:eek:

when will ana play?

Kunetsova i think is letting all this hater thing go to her head, she's tweeting about haters talking shit about her, she just shouldn't read that stuff at all...

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 08:51 PM
You have a huge imagination! :lol:Maybe:)...but I don't think you'd be too upset about the scenario above:p

Btw,it might be considered impolite by tennis standards,but I think that Ana brought some of that Snezana criticism upon herself...just like Dinara brings the choker label upon herself.Dinara cold shut up the critics simply by winning...and Ana could silence the people who question her professionalism by getting her act together on court.If she runs her show like a clown college operation,then she can't expect much respect---TRUE respect must be EARNED

gaviotabr
May 8th, 2010, 08:55 PM
wow madrid already started?:eek:

when will ana play?

Kunetsova i think is letting all this hater thing go to her head, she's tweeting about haters talking shit about her, she just shouldn't read that stuff at all...

It started today Luca.

Ana will play on Tuesday, since she has a first round bye.

Maybe you are right about Kuzzy.. thinking this way, it's better Ana never gets a twitter account after all. :help:

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 09:23 PM
Well,you guys have already heard me complain that women's sports get short shrift on Mexican TV:rolleyes:(you'll notice how the supposedly superior ATP has sucked raw donkey nuts this year:lol:)...they're showing golf on ESPN(huge yawn),so I decided to click on the WSNN website...that stands for W. orthless S. h-tbag N. ews N. etwork...and they listed the Tumor's score in Florida.It's noteworthy that,even when he plays FAR above his low putt-putt level standards,he's still EIGHT shots off the lead...tied for TWENTY-THIRd place.For him,'victories' aren't measured by actual wins...but by not getting his sorry ass 100% kicked into last place.I think the PGA has an arrangement with Adam that he either has to bring Ana to a tourney in order to create some excitement for that insomnia 'sport'...OR he has to clean out the port-a-johns on the fairways as payment for the privilege of being allowed to play with the true champions.

I've heard that Australia has a very macho culture like ours,so what's gonna happen if Ana returns to the Top 10 and starts winning tourneys??I could envision some Aussie construction worker teasing the Douchebag with,"Hey,Adam,what's it like being Ana's QUEEN?:haha:"...or "Who's the sheila in THAT relationship?:haha:".....This would probably lead to some passive-aggressive complaints that Ana was spending too much time on tennis...and not 'showing her support':rolleyes:......OR he might just dump her for his 'platonic friend',the slut hall-of-famer Kate Hudson.....Don't worry,Ana;we'll help you get over that just like you survived the Slump:p

jelenacg
May 8th, 2010, 09:43 PM
Kuzzy lost.. again. Is there some spell on the RG trophy? She is going Ana's way with the slump.. :tape:

The bottom half of Madrid is ridiculous.. it's so top heavy. :o

She didn`t only lose ,Sveta got bageled in third set :tape: Justine must have cursed that RG trophy :lol:
wow madrid already started?:eek:

when will ana play?
Kunetsova i think is letting all this hater thing go to her head, she's tweeting about haters talking shit about her, she just shouldn't read that stuff at all...

Well she can always block people :lol: I don`t think that`s the problem here.Last year she had a great clay season so this season she has lots of points to defend not to mention RG title
That`s a huge pressure plus she is not playing well ...and you get this disaster
I really don`t know what to think of her RG title defense .She can lose in 1st round but she can as well have a good run there bc she is a good player on clay and she will have to start playing well eventually
WTA is like always unpredictable :spit:

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Folks,we can see how Spain is still trying to recover from all the inbreeding that took place during the Inquisition and its aftermath;they list the Order of Play under the sub-heading 'News' on the Caja Magica webpage...first time in forever since I've seen THAT:lol:.....Does anyone know where they list the updated MD on their website??.....Wait,let me guess....They put that under 'Ticket Sales',right?:lol:

Dinara really seemed to enjoy the festivities they had there last year...so maybe Ana should hang around for a couple days regardless of what happens vs. JJ....They could have a Serb sister heart-to-heart where Ana asks JJ to autograph the photo where they're hugging while wrapped in the flag....JJ seems kinda emotional so she might be moved by that:p

Pops Maellard
May 8th, 2010, 10:38 PM
Hopefully the fact she lost to eventual champion will be of some use to Ana. :shrug:

Mixo
May 8th, 2010, 10:47 PM
Impressive stuff from Ana in Rome, IMPRESSIVE. I hope she can keep her momentum in Madrid and then rock the fucking world of tennis in RG, AJDE!!!

Folks,we can see how Spain is still trying to recover from all the inbreeding that took place during the Inquisition and its aftermath;they list the Order of Play under the sub-heading 'News' on the Caja Magica webpage...first time in forever since I've seen THAT:lol:.....Does anyone know where they list the updated MD on their website??.....Wait,let me guess....They put that under 'Ticket Sales',right?:lol:


You cant let go your trauma, eh... ;)

Pops Maellard
May 8th, 2010, 10:52 PM
Haven't seen you in a while Mixo. :wavey:

Mixo
May 8th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Haven't seen you in a while Mixo. :wavey:

Hey! I'm going to try to visit the forum more often. I hope Ana helps me to do it. ;)

bruce goose
May 8th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Impressive stuff from Ana in Rome, IMPRESSIVE. I hope she can keep her momentum in Madrid and then rock the fucking world of tennis in RG, AJDE!!!



You cant let go your trauma, eh... ;)Hey,welcome back!!:hug:I thought that maybe you were DEAD since you weren't visiting us to celebrate Ana's victories:lol:.....I don't know if you have any friends who are ballboys in Madrid but,if you DO,then tell them to put some soap shavings in JJ's water bottle.We don't wanna HURT her long-term:angel:...just give her a case of diarrhea for her match with Ana:p

Mixo
May 8th, 2010, 11:24 PM
Actually I have a friend working as "corta-tickets" (idk how to say it in english, but you understand me) at la Caja Magica... I dont think he can sabotage JJ's match in any way...

bruce goose
May 9th, 2010, 12:11 AM
Actually I have a friend working as "corta-tickets" (idk how to say it in english, but you understand me) at la Caja Magica... I dont think he can sabotage JJ's match in any way...You see,that's where you need to use your imagination:If your friend is part of the Ana Team,then he agrees to buy some beers for one of the ballboys...and then the ballboy "takes care of business" for us.Me explico??:p

Pops Maellard
May 9th, 2010, 12:28 AM
Bruce you didn't answer me before. :lol: I said you sounded like a very American Mexican. Which was good for my understanding. :p

bruce goose
May 9th, 2010, 12:47 AM
Bruce you didn't answer me before. :lol: I said you sounded like a very American Mexican. Which was good for my understanding. :pNo,aye DID answer your comments in post #1297 on page 87...but it somehow skipped your notice.I'll take your unintended insult in stride in the statement above b/c you probably didn't mean it in a BAD way....You still need to remember the purpose of the thread,though...that being ANA.....You have a tendency to get sidetracked from that sometimes

Pops Maellard
May 9th, 2010, 01:24 AM
No,aye DID answer your comments in post #1297 on page 87...but it somehow skipped your notice.I'll take your unintended insult in stride in the statement above b/c you probably didn't mean it in a BAD way....You still need to remember the purpose of the thread,though...that being ANA.....You have a tendency to get sidetracked from that sometimes
Yeah alright. Sorry about that.

InsideOut.
May 9th, 2010, 01:46 AM
I just realized that FlameOn doesn't have an Anapolis post yet :p Go and declare one at EARA.

Pops Maellard
May 9th, 2010, 01:59 AM
OK...but what to choose. :p

InsideOut.
May 9th, 2010, 02:02 AM
How about Official Coroner? :p

I'm waiting for someone to take up Official Pimp :devil:

bruce goose
May 9th, 2010, 02:15 AM
Yeah alright. Sorry about that.Don't worry;Ana learns something after every match...and YOU can learn,too;)

hellas719
May 9th, 2010, 05:10 AM
Rome :hug:
On to Madrid! Beat the other Serbian! :rocker:

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 09:39 AM
You guys are all so entertaining :lol:

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 12:51 PM
Ana better be up for the task against JJ and fight hard to win it. I'm going to be in a huge bad mood if she loses this one.. :o

Jang87
May 9th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Its strange how the Williams' struggle with JJ and their H2H count is nearly the same, but with Ana its 6-2. Hopefully the trend will continue for Ana in Madrid.

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 01:15 PM
I want to see Ana go into bitch mode for this match. I know there is a mean streak in there somewhere!

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 01:23 PM
I want to see Ana go into bitch mode for this match. I know there is a mean streak in there somewhere!

Me too!

Come on Ana! Fight hard for every single point! Be fired up!

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 01:31 PM
I know if I was her, I would certainly be fired up ;) But I have a very noticeable angry side :lol:

jelenacg
May 9th, 2010, 01:32 PM
Mean streak :spit:
I think you are overreacting here.The bad thing is that if she loses she won`t play more matches.Now i wish she played 1R ,she would have one more match played

JJ`s comments are not important,she always talks too much :rolleyes:

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Mean streak :spit:
I think you are overreacting here.The bad thing is that if she loses she won`t play more matches.Now i wish she played 1R ,she would have one more match played

JJ`s comments are not important,she always talks too much :rolleyes:

Aren't you interested to see if Ana has a bitchy side to her? lol. I reckon bitchy Ana would be even hotter than normal :lol:

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Mean streak :spit:
I think you are overreacting here.The bad thing is that if she loses she won`t play more matches.Now i wish she played 1R ,she would have one more match played

JJ`s comments are not important,she always talks too much :rolleyes:

You are probably right Jelena..

Still.. I can't help it.. if Ana loses, which is a strong possibility, I'll be pissed.

This draw is a huge bad luck though.. she could play more matches with a better draw.. and she definitely needs them. I mean.. it was noticeable the improvement in movement each match in Rome.. and it's obvious that was because she was getting the match play.

jelenacg
May 9th, 2010, 01:41 PM
I know if I was her, I would certainly be fired up ;) But I have a very noticeable angry side :lol:

:lol: I had no idea :lol:
Aren't you interested to see if Ana has a bitchy side to her? lol. I reckon bitchy Ana would be even hotter than normal :lol:

I`m sure she has :lol: it`s not like a Serena bitch side :lol:
It`s only a match and she needs to be focused and to fight hard no matter who her opponent is
Ana doesn`t need distractions and to get very emotional,she doesn`t need to be hot headed

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 01:45 PM
:lol: I had no idea :lol:


I`m sure she has :lol: it`s not like a Serena bitch side :lol:
It`s only a match and she needs to be focused and to fight hard no matter who her opponent is
Ana doesn`t need distractions and to get very emotional,she doesn`t need to be hot headed

I guess you are right, I was being cheeky :p
I can't help but feel that Ana will impress us against Jelena, only to get embarassed by Henin.

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 01:47 PM
:lol: I had no idea :lol:


;) :cool:

jelenacg
May 9th, 2010, 01:48 PM
You are probably right Jelena..

Still.. I can't help it.. if Ana loses, which is a strong possibility, I'll be pissed.

This draw is a huge bad luck though.. she could play more matches with a better draw.. and she definitely needs them. I mean.. it was noticeable the improvement in movement each match in Rome.. and it's obvious that was because she was getting the match play.

Absolutely :mad:
One of the worst draws ever ,and i`m not just talking about Ana vs JJ here
She really needed match play that`s why i`m so pissed at this draw :rolleyes: Plus she won`t play anything after this and RG is so close

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 01:50 PM
Absolutely :mad:
One of the worst draws ever ,and i`m not just talking about Ana vs JJ here
She really needed match play that`s why i`m so pissed at this draw :rolleyes: Plus she won`t play anything after this and RG is so close

Yes.. this draw sucks everywhere! :sobbing:

Ana better have a great draw for RG.. :o

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 01:55 PM
Yes.. this draw sucks everywhere! :sobbing:

Ana better have a great draw for RG.. :o

Is there no chance that she might take a WC into Strasbourg if she loses early?








Ana wins some matches and already I am back to being hopelessly delusional :help:

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 01:55 PM
If she has a really good run here, she could still get a seed for RG :sobbing: Not gonna happen anyway. I wish she did get it though, I would feel more at ease about the draw because she couldn't draw someone like Henin in round 1 :o

jelenacg
May 9th, 2010, 01:58 PM
I guess you are right, I was being cheeky :p
I can't help but feel that Ana will impress us against Jelena, only to get embarassed by Henin.

I wish ...
Yes.. this draw sucks everywhere! :sobbing:

Ana better have a great draw for RG.. :o

This draw is horrible for all the players that needed match play :o
Maria coming from an injury draws in form Safarova and loses :rolleyes: Dinara who also needs match play and many points to defend draws Justine :rolleyes:
I don`t even want to talk about RG draw :tape:

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 02:01 PM
If she has a really good run here, she could still get a seed for RG :sobbing: Not gonna happen anyway. I wish she did get it though, I would feel more at ease about the draw because she couldn't draw someone like Henin in round 1 :o

Justine is ruining everything. I am really starting to hate her :o

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 02:09 PM
This draw is horrible for all the players that needed match play :o
Maria coming from an injury draws in form Safarova and loses :rolleyes: Dinara who also needs match play and many points to defend draws Justine :rolleyes:
I don`t even want to talk about RG draw :tape:

Yes.. and then we have the bottom half with another cake walk for Woz.. :rolleyes:

With Ana's luck she will get Henin in the first round of RG and Venus in the first round of Wimbledon. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 02:12 PM
Is there no chance that she might take a WC into Strasbourg if she loses early?

I doubt she would ask for a WC. She would probabaly just head to Paris to practice on site.

Ana wins some matches and already I am back to being hopelessly delusional :help:

:lol:

Repeat the mantra... Ana is not back yet.. Ana is not back yet.. Ana is not back yet..

:sobbing:

I really think she needed to follow Rome with a good showing in Madrid and RG.. for her own sanity.. Ups and downs are the last thing she needs right now.. she needs stability.

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 02:14 PM
I doubt she would ask for a WC. She would probabaly just head to Paris to practice on site.



:lol:

Repeat the mantra... Ana is not back yet.. Ana is not back yet.. Ana is not back yet..

:sobbing:

I really think she needed to follow Rome with a good showing in Madrid and RG.. for her own sanity.. Ups and downs are the last thing she needs right now.. she needs stability.

It was kinda crucial :(

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 02:18 PM
It was kinda crucial :(

Yes...

Again, she better be given a dream draw in RG so she can make a run. :sobbing:

jelenacg
May 9th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Yes.. and then we have the bottom half with another cake walk for Woz.. :rolleyes:

With Ana's luck she will get Henin in the first round of RG and Venus in the first round of Wimbledon. :sobbing:

I can see that happening :tape: :sobbing:

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 02:24 PM
Yes...

Again, she better be given a dream draw in RG so she can make a run. :sobbing:

I think it wouldn't be that bad if she drew Safina in round 1 of RG :lol: well, depending on how she goes this tournament, but she is way down on form and confidence, and if Ana could take the draw of a seeded player then it could be really good for her.

However, that's a risk because we dunno how Safina would play...just a thought though :lol: Same with Kuznetsova maybe.

The 2nd Law
May 9th, 2010, 02:31 PM
Dream RG draw/seed placement for Ana?

1r: Vesnina
2r: [29] Pavlyuchenkova :shrug:
3r [7] Kuznetsova* *will probably be seeded lower
4r [2] Wozniacki or [12] Sharapova, depending on Kuzzie's seed
Qtr [5] Safina or [3] V.Williams

From there it doesn't really matter, the matches are all difficult :lol:

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 03:08 PM
Dream RG draw/seed placement for Ana?

1r: Vesnina
2r: [29] Pavlyuchenkova :shrug:
3r [7] Kuznetsova* *will probably be seeded lower
4r [2] Wozniacki or [12] Sharapova, depending on Kuzzie's seed
Qtr [5] Safina or [3] V.Williams

From there it doesn't really matter, the matches are all difficult :lol:

That would be cool! :lol:

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Henin is having worlds of trouble against Rezai in Madrid. :help:

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 03:14 PM
Yeah really surprising :confused: I'd say she'll probably find a way to pull the match out though.

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 03:18 PM
Yeah really surprising :confused: I'd say she'll probably find a way to pull the match out though.

Rezai is up 5-0 in the third now. :tape: For Justine to turn this around it would demand some choking. :shrug:

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 03:19 PM
Maybe I'm wrong :lol: I don't think Rezai could choke that bad, but you never know :lol:

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 03:21 PM
What a collapse from Justine :tape: she won 10 points in that set.

InsideOut.
May 9th, 2010, 03:21 PM
Bagel :eek:

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 03:22 PM
Maybe I'm wrong :lol: I don't think Rezai could choke that bad, but you never know :lol:

And Rezai finishes it off with a Bagel. WTF happened with Henin? Injury? :help:

It does open up the draw a bit... Ana, please beat JJ! Please! Please!

InsideOut.
May 9th, 2010, 03:26 PM
What. The. Fuck. Was. That.

Justine :tape::cuckoo:

HowardH
May 9th, 2010, 03:29 PM
I heard that Justine had her leg taped, that people thought she was going to retire but she kept playing.

Something's up anyway.

Davodus
May 9th, 2010, 03:36 PM
And Rezai finishes it off with a Bagel. WTF happened with Henin? Injury? :help:

It does open up the draw a bit... Ana, please beat JJ! Please! Please!

Pleeeeeease :sobbing: :lol: She could have another QF or SF run if she manages to. Come onnnnnn Anaaaaa

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 03:40 PM
I heard that Justine had her leg taped, that people thought she was going to retire but she kept playing.

Something's up anyway.

Ugh.. I hate injuries.. I honestly hope she will be okay for RG. Has 2 weeks to recover now.

gaviotabr
May 9th, 2010, 03:40 PM
Pleeeeeease :sobbing: :lol: She could have another QF or SF run if she manages to. Come onnnnnn Anaaaaa

Yes! Please Ana, please!!! Just please beat JJ!!

InsideOut.
May 9th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Yes! Please Ana, please!!! Just please beat JJ!!

:lol:

Curtos07
May 9th, 2010, 06:37 PM
I don't think Ana will beat JJ. :sobbing: But if she does, and makes another good run here, that would be so awesome. :)

BTW, just checked the OOP for tomorrow, no Ana/JJ. Guess that means they're playing on Tuesday. Madrid website sucks. Such a mess and difficult to navigate.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 9th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Looking at the form of the players, there are lots of possibilities that Ana gets a nice draw.

Top 4:

Serena
Wozniacki
Venus
Jankovic

Venus never plays well at RG. Especially not in first rounds. Such draw wouldn't be even that bad. After that the draw will be opened for sure.

5-8

Safina
Dementieva
Kuznetsova
Stosur

Safina has no form yet after her come back. Sveta is in terrrible form.
The other 2 can be tough in early rounds.

9-16

Radwanska
Clijsters
Azarenka
Sharapova
Li
Wickmayer
Bartoli
Pennetta

Must of them would be ok to draw, especially Sharapova. I don't hope it will be Clijsters, Azarenka or Radwanska.

Henin & Martinez Sanchez, Zvonareva and maybe Safarova are the other seeds she should avoid. You never with Martinez Sanchez, she can be defeated in round 1 by a nobody.

There can be a tough draw but as you see also many options for nice draws. Some unseeded players can be more dangerous than the seeds.

jelenacg
May 9th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Justine bageled by Rezai :lol: I hope she will be fine for RG
I agree that there are plenty of possibilities for Ana to get a nice draw but she could also end up with a horrible draw :tape:
We`ll have to wait and see but a little help from tennis Gods would be great
Also Ana will have to be focused and play well otherwise draw doesn`t matter :rolleyes:

bruce goose
May 9th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Justine bageled by Rezai :lol: I hope she will be fine for RG
Jelena,I can explain what happened:Mixo must have spoken to his friend in English instead of Spanish,thus causing the mix-up.Mixo's buddy was supposed to put the soap shavings in JJ's water bottle,NOT Justine's...when Henin realized that she was beating Rezai and would have to face big,beautiful Dinarik...the one who sent her lying,cheating tail(RG 2003)into retirement with a bagel on the clay of Berlin...she sh-t her pants and the extra,displaced weight of the bowel movement made her strain her leg while she was running....No big deal;Mixo's friend will have another chance to set things right tomorrow:)

bruce goose
May 9th, 2010, 10:55 PM
In case anyone was curious,WSNN's scoreboard reports that Ana's QUEEN,despite an unusually better-than-average performance,finished ELEVEN shots off the lead....tied for TWENTY-SIXTH place...or,in tennis terms,on the borderline of being able to make or not make the MD of a 32-player field w/o going thru Qualies....Once again,this proves the scientific truism that,when it's heavy enough,sh-t will NOT float:p

Let's hope that Ana keeps herself busy so as not to be influenced by the Complete Loser Mindset:)

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 04:51 AM
Bruce :lol:


Lovely, Henin lost :) I hope she is not injured or anything though, she better be okay for RG because she needs to play there to stop the curse that she conjured up two years ago! :lol:

I wonder if Ana has realised how much Juju losing has potentially opened up her draw, BEAT JELENA, PLEASEEEEEEEEE!!

Curtos07
May 10th, 2010, 05:17 AM
Ana is now #42! Hope she can rise some more up the rankings this week. :)

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Rankings_Stats/Singles_Numeric.pdf

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:28 PM
I'm watching Serena struggle mightly against Dushevina.. and boy, are the Madrid courts heavy or what? They look really slow.. I mean.. nothing Serena hits goes through it.. Dushevina is not even that great of a mover and she is retrieving everything.

I'm growing afraid about tomorrow's match.. I want Ana to win so bad.. and whenever this happens, she loses.. I'm such a jinx.. :sobbing:

Here is what JJ had to say about it in today's presser:

De cara a su debut frente a su compatriota Ana Ivanovic espera un partido complicado ya que su rival jugó "muy bien en Roma", donde fue semifinalista. "Veremos qué pasa. Yo haré mi juego. La última vez que nos enfrentamos fue hace uno o dos años. Creo que gané, pero no lo recuerdo muy bien", apuntó, lamentando el frío que hace en Madrid, aunque espera poder adaptarse a la altura de la ciudad.

http://www.europapress.es/deportes/tenis-00166/noticia-tenis-madrid-jankovic-estoy-mas-preparada-nunca-20100510133833.html

She is definitely going to bring it tomorrow.. :sobbing: Come on Ana, be fired up!

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:28 PM
Bruce :lol:


Lovely, Henin lost :) I hope she is not injured or anything though, she better be okay for RG because she needs to play there to stop the curse that she conjured up two years ago! :lol:

I wonder if Ana has realised how much Juju losing has potentially opened up her draw, BEAT JELENA, PLEASEEEEEEEEE!!

PLEASEEEE! PLEASEEE! :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Looking at the form of the players, there are lots of possibilities that Ana gets a nice draw.

Top 4:

Serena
Wozniacki
Venus
Jankovic

Venus never plays well at RG. Especially not in first rounds. Such draw wouldn't be even that bad. After that the draw will be opened for sure.

5-8

Safina
Dementieva
Kuznetsova
Stosur

Safina has no form yet after her come back. Sveta is in terrrible form.
The other 2 can be tough in early rounds.

9-16

Radwanska
Clijsters
Azarenka
Sharapova
Li
Wickmayer
Bartoli
Pennetta

Must of them would be ok to draw, especially Sharapova. I don't hope it will be Clijsters, Azarenka or Radwanska.

Henin & Martinez Sanchez, Zvonareva and maybe Safarova are the other seeds she should avoid. You never with Martinez Sanchez, she can be defeated in round 1 by a nobody.

There can be a tough draw but as you see also many options for nice draws. Some unseeded players can be more dangerous than the seeds.

There are definitely lots of options for nice draws. But she can as easily get some hell draws.. like Henin, Serena or JJ in the first round.. well.. we might as well add there MJSM, Radwanska, Stosur.. I don't want Ana anywhere near these people in the RG draw. Either way, as Jelena says, it won't matter if Ana isn't focused and playing well.. she has to be up for it.

Please tennis Gods, give Ana some luck, a great RG draw and a run of good matches and wins please!

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 12:32 PM
PLEASEEEE! PLEASEEE! :sobbing:

Isn't it nice when you know that someone out there feels exactly the same way as you :lol:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:33 PM
Isn't it nice when you know that someone out there feels exactly the same way as you :lol:

Feels great! We can always support each other.. :sobbing:

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 12:36 PM
Serena's so mean. Let the poor Russian journeywoman have a sweet taste of victory and then snatch it away. :p

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:41 PM
Serena's so mean. Let the poor Russian journeywoman have a sweet taste of victory and then snatch it away. :p

It's not over yet.. still on serve in the third set.

The courts are really heavy.. it was raining early and it seems really cold.

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 12:43 PM
The board will explode if Dushevina pulls this off. :happy:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:44 PM
It's not over yet.. still on serve in the third set.

The courts are really heavy.. it was raining early and it seems really cold.

These conditions would usually favour Ana.. but she is a whole different player now.. I really don't know what favours her anymore.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:46 PM
The board will explode if Dushevina pulls this off. :happy:

I want Serena to win.. more than anything because I want her to get a good point cushion on her number 1 ranking. :shrug:

But she is playing like crap, truth to be told.. SO many UEs. Dushevina is being smart.

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 12:49 PM
Sometimes I don't know why I bother with WTA. The way the quality is never any good and the top seeds choke or don't care at the big events, gets a bit tiresome after a while. :yawn:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Oh noes... now Serena asks for a trainer. I hate injuries!!!

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 12:57 PM
Looks like a long delay in Serena/Douche match.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Looks like a long delay in Serena/Douche match.

Serena went to get treatment inside.

jelenacg
May 10th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Serena is so funny to watch when she is in this mood :lol::lol: She is whining whole match about her level of play :lol: You can just see that she is a younger sister :p

I think her main problem is that she is just not focused enough .I mean she sent so many balls on Vera`s racquet when she had an open court :tape::lol:
Now she asked for MTO ,injuries :tape:

I don`t like this tournament at all and their website sucks big time :rolleyes::o
Maybe the courts are so slow to suit Rafa`s and other spanish players game i don`t know but they are very slow
If Serena doesn`t have the power i don`t know who does :lol::lol:

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:13 PM
I kinda want Serena to be perfectly fresh for RG, she had more than her usual pre RG match play in Rome. She can turn it on when she needs to, unlike Ana.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Serena is so funny to watch when she is in this mood :lol::lol: She is whining whole match about her level of play :lol: You can just see that she is a younger sister :p

I think her main problem is that she is just not focused enough .I mean she sent so many balls on Vera`s racquet when she had an open court :tape::lol:
Now she asked for MTO ,injuries :tape:

These last few games have been hilarious.. Jo Durie even said it looked like the final of a Grand Slam by all the noise Serena was making. :lol:

She didn't play well at all in this match.. so I understand her frustration..

I don`t like this tournament at all and their website sucks big time :rolleyes::o
Maybe the courts are so slow to suit Rafa`s and other spanish players game i don`t know but they are very slow
If Serena doesn`t have the power i don`t know who does :lol::lol:

I don't know.. with the altitud and all.. it should be faster.. but it's slow as hell.. so heavy. Maybe it's also because it was raining and it's cold. But Serena just couldn't hit through it at all. And as you say.. she is probably the most powerful player. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:17 PM
OMG! Is Serena choking again? WTF?

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:19 PM
OMG! Is Serena choking again? WTF?

And she loses her serve to 0 with 2 DFs. I had never seen Serena choke like this.. but she did it against JJ and again today. :o

InsideOut.
May 10th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Serena's DFs :spit:

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Anyway I'm also hoping Serena can pull through this. We all know who's circling like a vulture waiting to take the #1 spot.

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:20 PM
How are you guys watching?

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:20 PM
I kinda want Serena to be perfectly fresh for RG, she had more than her usual pre RG match play in Rome. She can turn it on when she needs to, unlike Ana.

I hope she doesn't become a choker.. I'm like.. WTF? I thought I could always count on Serena to keep sanity and don't choke. :spit:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:20 PM
How are you guys watching?

Stream: http://www.fromsport.com/video-249584.html

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 01:21 PM
Mark my words, Dushevina will win this. :rolls:

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:22 PM
I hope she doesn't become a choker.. I'm like.. WTF? I thought I could always count on Serena to keep sanity and don't choke. :spit:

The WTA would truly be dead if Serena became a choker. DEAD I tell you.


@FlameOn: I don't care if Caro takes number 1, she is the most irrelevant top 4 player I think I've ever seen. When the rest of the top ten is presnt, i.e. at a slame or premier mandatory, she's just not up there. It's not her fault either.

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 01:26 PM
I don't think TF will handle Caro becoming #1. :happy:

jelenacg
May 10th, 2010, 01:26 PM
These last few games have been hilarious.. Jo Durie even said it looked like the final of a Grand Slam by all the noise Serena was making. :lol:

She didn't play well at all in this match.. so I understand her frustration..

I don't know.. with the altitud and all.. it should be faster.. but it's slow as hell.. so heavy. Maybe it's also because it was raining and it's cold. But Serena just couldn't hit through it at all. And as you say.. she is probably the most powerful player. :shrug:

:lol:
Our commentator laughed a few times at Serena`s whining :lol:
I really don`t know what to think of the courts :confused: Sure Serena isn`t playing well but still courts are very slow and she just can`t hit trough :shrug:

Btw did Ana arrive in Madrid ? :lol: Europe again had problems with transportation bc of volcano :tape::lol:

Marilyn Monheaux
May 10th, 2010, 01:27 PM
I don't think TF will handle Caro becoming #1. :happy:

TF would explode if that happens.:lol:

The best thing about the match is that it takes so long! Pissing off the biking fans!:devil:

jelenacg
May 10th, 2010, 01:31 PM
How are you guys watching?

ES is being very generous :lol: We`ll get to see 3 WTA matches today :lol:
I don't think TF will handle Caro becoming #1. :happy:

That`s true :lol:
I would like to see Serena`s comments if that happens :lol::lol:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:32 PM
:lol:
Our commentator laughed a few times at Serena`s whining :lol:
I really don`t know what to think of the courts :confused: Sure Serena sin`t playing well but still court`s are very slow and she just can`t hit trough :shrug:

Btw did Ana arrive in Madrid ? :lol: Europe again had problems with transportation bc of volcano :tape::lol:

The courts are extremely heavy and slow.. I'm thinking of Ana... I mean.. she can get super frustrated if she can't finish off points and we know JJ won't put it easy for her..

I'm sure she has arrived yes.. JJ did, and Ana had more time to do so.

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:33 PM
ES Australia is showing cycling or something :( Thanks for the stream Izzy :)

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:33 PM
3-0 tie break.. Serena is totally choking badly.. :o

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:33 PM
Dushevina 3 - 0 in the tiebreak :eek:

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 01:34 PM
ES is being very generous :lol: We`ll get to see 3 WTA matches today :lol:


That`s true :lol:
I would like to see Serena`s comments if that happens :lol::lol:
"She did well to be #1. I mean she did win Ponte Vedra Beach". :happy:

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:35 PM
LMAO at Serena's Sharapova grunt!!

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Serena goes from 0-4 to 3-4. COme on...

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:40 PM
:lol: Serena!

Marilyn Monheaux
May 10th, 2010, 01:40 PM
The reaction after MP!:speakles:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Serena won in the end. But boy.. was it tough or what? I think she will probably pull out of the next match though..

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:41 PM
I loved her grunts in that TB :lol: And the appology and moan at the net :lol: :hearts:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:41 PM
The reaction after MP!:speakles:

She wanted it. We could tell.. :lol:

73 UEs... :spit:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:42 PM
3 hours and a half! :spit:

jelenacg
May 10th, 2010, 01:42 PM
"She did well to be #1. I mean she did win Ponte Vedra Beach". :happy:

:lol:
Winner of Rome and Madrid doesn`t look that bad now does it :p:lol:
And Serena wins finally :lol:
It took her only 3h and 20 min to beat Vera :worship: :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Oh I forgot that she also thanked Vera at the net :lol:
So the net encounter included a scream, a thankyou and an apology :lol: :hearts:

InsideOut.
May 10th, 2010, 01:45 PM
:sobbing:

Serena. Is. Such. A. Bitch.

No kidding. Fake medical timeout. Screeching. The ball bouncing. :weirdo: CHEAT. HYPOCRITE.

:bigcry:

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 01:48 PM
:sobbing:

Serena. Is. Such. A. Bitch.

No kidding. Fake medical timeout. Screeching. The ball bouncing. :weirdo: CHEAT. HYPOCRITE.

:bigcry:
Oh come on, it's not as if it's a regular occurance. :p

She was clearly possessed by a demon during this match. :lol:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:49 PM
Thinking about Ana..

Heavy and slow court used to be Ana's cup of tea.. She won Berlin like that, and RG as well.. on rainy years. And she always had more trouble with the fast, dry courts of Rome. But Ana seems to be a whole different player now.. she has lost a lot of power, so hitting through Madrid courts won't be easy.. and she did well in Rome for the first time in her life.

I'm inclined to think that the heavy conditions will only make it harder for her to hit through JJ. She will need to be more resourceful and keep her cool.. avoid frustration.. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 01:50 PM
:sobbing:

Serena. Is. Such. A. Bitch.

No kidding. Fake medical timeout. Screeching. The ball bouncing. :weirdo: CHEAT. HYPOCRITE.

:bigcry:

:spit:

I found it completely hilarious! :lol:

InsideOut.
May 10th, 2010, 01:50 PM
What about the hand against JJ? TWICE?????? You don't put up your hand when your opponent is halfway through the serve. PATHETIC. BITCH.

I've lost all respect for her :rolleyes: Such a cheater.

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:50 PM
:lol: How can you not love Rena?


I hope she respects Dinara's achievement of winning Rome and Madrid now, she's learning just how punishing back to back deep clay runs can be :lol:

Pops Maellard
May 10th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Thinking about Ana..

Heavy and slow court used to be Ana's cup of tea.. She won Berlin like that, and RG as well.. on rainy years. And she always had more trouble with the fast, dry courts of Rome. But Ana seems to be a whole different player now.. she has lost a lot of power, so hitting through Madrid courts won't be easy.. and she did well in Rome for the first time in her life.

I'm inclined to think that the heavy conditions will only make it harder for her to hit through JJ. She will need to be more resourceful and keep her cool.. avoid frustration.. :sobbing:
Yeah back on topic. I'm just repeating over and over "6-2 H2H, 6-2 H2H". It's all we got basically. :shrug:

Hope Ana can get her power back. She's not that old yet she should just be losing power like THAT. :weirdo:

InsideOut.
May 10th, 2010, 01:53 PM
:lol: How can you not love Rena?

Because she is a cheat, a hypocrite, a bitch, a faker. :fiery:

The 2nd Law
May 10th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Because she is a cheat, a hypocrite, a bitch, a faker. :fiery:

:hug:

At least you love Ana :p

Marilyn Monheaux
May 10th, 2010, 01:54 PM
Because she is a cheat, a hypocrite, a bitch, a faker. :fiery:

Which one of your faves did she beat?:p

DownTheLine21
May 10th, 2010, 01:56 PM
I just really admire Serena's fight. Ana used to have that "never say die" attitude, as well. WIMB 2007, LA 2007, AO 2008, etc.

Marilyn Monheaux
May 10th, 2010, 01:58 PM
About the Ana - JJ match: Does anyone really think that she could beat Jelena?

I'm trying to be positive, but JJ is just red hot at the moment. Unless she suffered a serious dropshot trauma, she's definitely gonna bring it against Ana. They've never been BFF and JJ must be pissed about Ana withrawing from Fed Cup and letting her do all the work.

If Ana somehow manages to stay calm, confident and level-headed, hit through the ball and not get frustrated by misses, she has a chance, but I think it's unlikely that's gonna happen.

Sorry for being so pessimistic.:sad:

jelenacg
May 10th, 2010, 02:00 PM
Thinking about Ana..

Heavy and slow court used to be Ana's cup of tea.. She won Berlin like that, and RG as well.. on rainy years. And she always had more trouble with the fast, dry courts of Rome. But Ana seems to be a whole different player now.. she has lost a lot of power, so hitting through Madrid courts won't be easy.. and she did well in Rome for the first time in her life.

I'm inclined to think that the heavy conditions will only make it harder for her to hit through JJ. She will need to be more resourceful and keep her cool.. avoid frustration.. :sobbing:

Well it`s not like she had that many opportunities to play well in Rome :lol:
2007 didn`t play,2008 her head went a little bit crazy ,2009 not worth mentioning :rolleyes:
When she gets her confidence back she will get her usual power back .Ofc it`s not that easy but that`s the pattern
:spit:

I found it completely hilarious! :lol:

Me too :lol: WS can be many things but they are not cheaters .They hardly ever question line calls or ask for hawk eye while lately Ana...

krystian
May 10th, 2010, 02:07 PM
Hopefully tomorrow's match will be ordered to be played on Center Court and at the same time will be shown by Eurosport of course. :)

InsideOut.
May 10th, 2010, 02:10 PM
Which one of your faves did she beat?:p

She beat sports as a concept with her lack of sportsmanship. :rolleyes: The bitch.

About the Ana - JJ match: Does anyone really think that she could beat Jelena?

I'm trying to be positive, but JJ is just red hot at the moment. Unless she suffered a serious dropshot trauma, she's definitely gonna bring it against Ana. They've never been BFF and JJ must be pissed about Ana withrawing from Fed Cup and letting her do all the work.

If Ana somehow manages to stay calm, confident and level-headed, hit through the ball and not get frustrated by misses, she has a chance, but I think it's unlikely that's gonna happen.

Sorry for being so pessimistic.:sad:

I think Ana will destroy Jj :bounce:

But seriously. Ana 7-5 6-4.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 02:11 PM
About the Ana - JJ match: Does anyone really think that she could beat Jelena?

I'm trying to be positive, but JJ is just red hot at the moment. Unless she suffered a serious dropshot trauma, she's definitely gonna bring it against Ana. They've never been BFF and JJ must be pissed about Ana withrawing from Fed Cup and letting her do all the work.

If Ana somehow manages to stay calm, confident and level-headed, hit through the ball and not get frustrated by misses, she has a chance, but I think it's unlikely that's gonna happen.

Sorry for being so pessimistic.:sad:

It's okay.. you are most probably right..

I'm trying to think of reasons Ana could win.. because I want her to win it badly.. but she probably isn't there yet.

But.. Ana should bring it against JJ too you know.. she has been getting out of her way to criticize her on the press.. and that's NOT cool.. let alone what her mom said. Ana should be out there to prove something. But we know she isn't necessarily like that..

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 02:12 PM
Me too :lol: WS can be many things but they are not cheaters .They hardly ever question line calls or ask for hawk eye while lately Ana...

I don't think WS are cheaters either. They can be many things.. but not cheaters. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 02:13 PM
:lol: How can you not love Rena?


I hope she respects Dinara's achievement of winning Rome and Madrid now, she's learning just how punishing back to back deep clay runs can be :lol:

I find Serena so hilarious that I can't help but have a soft spot for her. :lol:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 02:15 PM
I just really admire Serena's fight. Ana used to have that "never say die" attitude, as well. WIMB 2007, LA 2007, AO 2008, etc.

Good old days.. :sobbing:

Ana used to be a great come from behind player.. now I almost always see her completely deflated when things don't happen as she wants. :(

DownTheLine21
May 10th, 2010, 02:16 PM
Good old days.. :sobbing:

Ana used to be a great come from behind player.. now I almost always see her completely deflated when things don't happen as she wants. :(

Do you remember how insane her 3-set record was for most of 2007 and part of 2008? It was incredible.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Do you remember how insane her 3-set record was for most of 2007 and part of 2008? It was incredible.

I do! I counted it once.. it was something like 25-4. Then, after RG.. it was like 5-15 or something.. :sobbing: This is what really made the difference.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 03:13 PM
I'm watching Monfils on TV now.. and center court seems a lot faster than in the Serena match. It's also true that now it seems to be hotter and drier. During the first two sets of Serena, it was pouring a bit. It can really change conditions..

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 03:24 PM
I do! I counted it once.. it was something like 25-4. Then, after RG.. it was like 5-15 or something.. :sobbing: This is what really made the difference.

So.. was checking it out... 3 set record...

2007 until Wimbledon 2008: 25-6 (31 matches)

From then on: 11-14 (25 matches)

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Another thing I've been noticing.. after every long rally, the players start to breath heavily, longing for air. With the altitud, that's normal... conditioning is very important here I think.

Davodus
May 10th, 2010, 03:29 PM
So.. was checking it out... 3 set record...

2007 until Wimbledon 2008: 25-6 (31 matches)

From then on: 11-14 (25 matches)

GOAT period in 3 setters until 08 wimbledon :worship:

then she became a mug :o :lol:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 03:32 PM
GOAT period in 3 setters until 08 wimbledon :worship:

then she became a mug :o :lol:

:sobbing:

Her head got screwed.. and that made all the difference.. :sobbing:

azdaja
May 10th, 2010, 03:36 PM
up to a certain point ana had a proud record of NEVER lsoing a match after winning the 1st set. that record has also gone when whe entered her slump.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 03:39 PM
up to a certain point ana had a proud record of NEVER lsoing a match after winning the 1st set. that record has also gone when whe entered her slump.

All the nice records she had are gone.. :sobbing: I still remember that MP wasted at the USO first round.. :sobbing:

Davodus
May 10th, 2010, 03:51 PM
All the nice records she had are gone.. :sobbing: I still remember that MP wasted at the USO first round.. :sobbing:

Ah yes, the day I nearly got kicked out of a computer lab at uni for swearing at a computer :o And who knows what would have happened, the way that draw opened up.

I was really fond of that record, never losing in the first round of a slam. But wasn't to be :ras:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 03:53 PM
Ah yes, the day I nearly got kicked out of a computer lab at uni for swearing at a computer :o And who knows what would have happened, the way that draw opened up.

I was really fond of that record, never losing in the first round of a slam. But wasn't to be :ras:

Yes.. I was very proud of that record.. and the way the draw fell apart, she could have made a run.. :sobbing: Instead it prompted her to end the season early IMHO.

bruce goose
May 10th, 2010, 04:25 PM
She beat sports as a concept with her lack of sportsmanship. :rolleyes: The bitch.
Be careful,Ben;such blunt critical name-calling often invites militant mod intervention......I'm not telling you how you should think about Serena cuz you're entitled to your opinion;I'm just giving you a friendly warning so that you can avoid punishment(in fact,you posted this 2 hours ago so maybe the mods already got you:eek:).....I got a one-day ban--which I deserved--for going over the line on one of the players who beat a favorite of mine....so,since then,I've gone for a more subtle approach;).....You can still be extra-nasty with subtlety:devil:

A lot of you keep looking for hope in tomorrow's match...but we'll be fine if Mixo's friend buys the ballboy some drinks........and then he can take care of JJ's drink:devil:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 05:31 PM
OOP for tomorrow is out.. And Ana's match is not on it. So they will play on wednesday.

Two things I've heard.. don't know if they are true though... First is that the match will be wednesday's night session, after Nadal's first match. Second is that JJ requested a late start, because she could only have her first practice in Madrid today. Again, not sure if it's true.. :shrug:

Either way... one extra day.. wednesday it is.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 05:36 PM
One thing though.. I just opened Ana's web and they say she will take on JJ on tuesday.. didn't they see the OOP? Were they preparing the match for tomorrow? I don't like it that they don't really know.. :o

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 10th, 2010, 05:42 PM
When Ana beat JJ in the past, mostly it was after a bad period.

1. Zurich 2005, before that tournament she lost her last 2 matches against Vento-Kabchi and Schnyder.
2. Tokyo 2007, not certainly a bad run but a 6-1 6-2 against Zvonareva hurts.
3. Amelia Island 2007, IW loss against Bammer and even lost to Shvedova in Miami.
4. Los Angeles 2007, last tournament was Wimbledon SF. But then an injury and didn't play for several weeks.
5. RG 2008, Berlin was a SF but with really bad play. And Rome? :o


The losses: Doha 2008, was after a great run in Linz and Zurich wasn't bad either.
LA 2007, she had Wimbledon R4 and San Diego R3.

So what about match nr 8? It actually can be anything. :devil:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 10th, 2010, 05:48 PM
Kinda odd. Only 2 2nd round matches won't be played tomorrow.
Parra Santonja - Peng and JJ - Ana.

Ana and JJ were the first ones in round 2 and Peng played only 3 games, but they get the most rest.

bruce goose
May 10th, 2010, 05:48 PM
OOP for tomorrow is out.. And Ana's match is not on it. So they will play on wednesday.
The only other 2nd Round match postponed 'til then is the one between Peng and Parra Santonja...so we can see that Madrid saved the two clashes of the titans for Wednesday

MathsGenius
May 10th, 2010, 05:49 PM
I don't think they will play on wednesday, because it's a second round and second round plays on monday and tuesday.

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 05:54 PM
I don't think they will play on wednesday, because it's a second round and second round plays on monday and tuesday.

So when will they play? :spit:

They are obviously not playing today.. and are not on the OOP for tomorrow... so..

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 05:56 PM
Kinda odd. Only 2 2nd round matches won't be played tomorrow.
Parra Santonja - Peng and JJ - Ana.

Ana and JJ were the first ones in round 2 and Peng played only 3 games, but they get the most rest.

Yes.. weird...

And Ana's team was obviously expecting it to be played tomorrow, as they state on her web that Ana and JJ would face off on tuesday. Maybe they want a big night session for Wednesday? It was announced Nadal would play his first match wednesday at 20h a few days ago.. And Ana x JJ is a big match for a second round.

spiritedenergy
May 10th, 2010, 05:57 PM
OOP for tomorrow is out.. And Ana's match is not on it. So they will play on wednesday.

Two things I've heard.. don't know if they are true though... First is that the match will be wednesday's night session, after Nadal's first match. Second is that JJ requested a late start, because she could only have her first practice in Madrid today. Again, not sure if it's true.. :shrug:

Either way... one extra day.. wednesday it is.

mmmhh is that true? JJ wants to be ready to lay a beatdown on Ana:o the usual queen i must say to request the match to be moved because of her being late:o Ana please fight!

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 05:58 PM
When Ana beat JJ in the past, mostly it was after a bad period.

1. Zurich 2005, before that tournament she lost her last 2 matches against Vento-Kabchi and Schnyder.
2. Tokyo 2007, not certainly a bad run but a 6-1 6-2 against Zvonareva hurts.
3. Amelia Island 2007, IW loss against Bammer and even lost to Shvedova in Miami.
4. Los Angeles 2007, last tournament was Wimbledon SF. But then an injury and didn't play for several weeks.
5. RG 2008, Berlin was a SF but with really bad play. And Rome? :o


The losses: Doha 2008, was after a great run in Linz and Zurich wasn't bad either.
LA 2007, she had Wimbledon R4 and San Diego R3.

So what about match nr 8? It actually can be anything. :devil:

Well.. we can look at it both ways.. I mean... Ana is coming off her best tournament in a long while.. but at the same time, she has been in a deeeeeeeeeep slump for over 20 months.. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 06:01 PM
mmmhh is that true? JJ wants to be ready to lay a beatdown on Ana:o the usual queen i must say to request the match to be moved because of her being late:o Ana please fight!

I can't say it's true.. maybe it is, maybe not... it's just something I heard from people who attented the tournament.. but they went as spectators... so It's just something they heard around as well.. So I don't know if it's really true or not. I guess we can believe it if Ana's match is indeed scheduled as the night match on wednesday, which was the other thing my friends heard around. :shrug: Might all be only chit chat rumours though.

What I can say is that I am with you in your plead.. please please Ana, fight hard for it!!!

Sor.ana
May 10th, 2010, 06:08 PM
I'm sure Ana can win this match ! Come on !

By the way, I've a question : can Ana still be top seed in RG ?

gaviotabr
May 10th, 2010, 06:13 PM
I'm sure Ana can win this match ! Come on !

By the way, I've a question : can Ana still be top seed in RG ?

To get a seed for RG, Ana would have to make at the very least a QF in Madrid. Depends also on other players results.

Sor.ana
May 10th, 2010, 06:20 PM
That was I was thinking, I just wanted to make myself sure of it (I wouldn't hope for nothing). But at least, even if it will be very difficult, it's still possible.
And we can also count on 2 or 3 withdrawns =S. I keep hoping.

Stevecw
May 10th, 2010, 06:23 PM
Not happening until Wednesday, really?? That is a joke. How can JJ have so much power here, to allow her days off to be ready :mad:

Curtos07
May 10th, 2010, 06:30 PM
Wednesday? F*** that. Tuesday was perfect for me. No class. I got a final at noon at Wednesday. Now I am going to have to spend the next 24 hours waiting for the OOP to come out nervous as shit. If I miss this match, I am going to be so pissed. It better be a really early match or a night session match. Otherwise, I am going to explode with anger. :fiery: