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bruce goose
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:11 PM
Interesting Bruce! Thanks!

As we've talked about this many times, you know how I believe this is the root of all problems.. unfortunately I don't think Ana even admits it.. so..Even though the article focused mostly on Dinara...it really hit me hard how perfectly the negative mentalities described Ana.You're 100% right that she won't admit it publicly...but she's delusional,NOT completely insane...so there's a part of her,deep down,that knows this is all true....I hope that it bothers her and gnaws away at her until,one day,she just can't stand it anymore...and is forced to take action for her peace of mind

spiritedenergy
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Rome draw should be up saturday, right? Or is it sunday?

Not that it matters much..

Ana has 110 points to defend, so she will probably fall down the rankings a bit more. Not much though.. Without those points she is 62 in this weeks rankings.

i saw ana is 62 in the race, i thought she was out of the top 100... this means if she plays some MM or she has a good run she could finish the year in the top 40, that would be good because it would stop the slide...

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:19 PM
Even though the article focused mostly on Dinara...it really hit me hard how perfectly the negative mentalities described Ana.You're 100% right that she won't admit it publicly...but she's delusional,NOT completely insane...so there's a part of her,deep down,that knows this is all true....I hope that it bothers her and gnaws away at her until,one day,she just can't stand it anymore...and is forced to take action for her peace of mind

I don't know how she doesn't show she wants it more and recommits after 2 years of awful play.. so nothing might surprise me coming from Ana. She might just never get out of her little cocoon. :shrug:

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:23 PM
i saw ana is 62 in the race, i thought she was out of the top 100... this means if she plays some MM or she has a good run she could finish the year in the top 40, that would be good because it would stop the slide...

Unfortunately I don't think finishing top 40 would do much to Ana's head.. and heart. Maybe if that's all she gets, she will be even more discouraged.

One thing I agree though... it might be the best thing we can expect from her.. a top 40 finish. I don't think she will be playing any MM apart from Rosmalen though. She has already been announced by both San Diego and Montreal, and there is no tournaments besides ITFs during the week of Cinci. I actually think she will end her year after China Open.. so when could she add the MM? Maybe july? But we know that's WAG month (Adam's birthday is July 15th).. and after the USO? She never plays at this point of the year.. :shrug: Time is gone..

spiritedenergy
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:32 PM
Unfortunately I don't think finishing top 40 would do much to Ana's head.. and heart. Maybe if that's all she gets, she will be even more discouraged.

One thing I agree though... it might be the best thing we can expect from her.. a top 40 finish. I don't think she will be playing any MM apart from Rosmalen though. She has already been announced by both San Diego and Montreal, and there is no tournaments besides ITFs during the week of Cinci. I actually think she will end her year after China Open.. so when could she add the MM? Maybe july? But we know that's WAG month (Adam's birthday is July 15th).. and after the USO? She never plays at this point of the year.. :shrug: Time is gone..

well she could think that despite being at an all time low she is still top 40, it would be a great achievement in my opinion... where did she get her points, i guess only brisbane and AO right? after that didn't she lose 1st round everytime?:tape:

bruce goose
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:39 PM
I don't know how she doesn't show she wants it more and recommits after 2 years of awful play.. so nothing might surprise me coming from Ana. She might just never get out of her little cocoon. :shrug:Yeah,it's extremely disappointing that her desire seems to be so low...but does she look happy with her bad decisions,in your opinion??Vaidisova looks content to powder her nose with Stepanek,yet Ana's face doesn't show me that same contentment....One day--when she wakes up,she's gonna have difficulty forgiving herself for all the time she wasted with that sleazy MF

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:44 PM
well she could think that despite being at an all time low she is still top 40, it would be a great achievement in my opinion... where did she get her points, i guess only brisbane and AO right? after that didn't she lose 1st round everytime?:tape:

I don't think top 40 is a consolation prize for Ana unfortunately.. she still sees herself as something else. But it would be some achievement yes.

Right now.. counting towards her ranking, she has I think (anyone correct me if I'm wrong, because this is from the top of my head):

Brisbane 2010: 130 points
AO 2010: 100 points
Miami 2010: 85 points
Rome 2009: 110 points
RG 2009: 280 points
Eastbourne 2009: 1 point
Wimbledon 2009: 280 points
LA 2009: 60 points
Cinci 2009: 60 points
Toronto 2009: 60 points
USO 2009: 5 points
Tokyo 2009: 1 point

So for the race she has the points from Brisbane, AO and Miami.

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Yeah,it's extremely disappointing that her desire seems to be so low...but does she look happy with her bad decisions,in your opinion??Vaidisova looks content to powder her nose with Stepanek,yet Ana's face doesn't show me that same contentment....One day--when she wakes up,she's gonna have difficulty forgiving herself for all the time she wasted with that sleazy MF

I agree that when she wakes up from this she will regret neglecting her tennis for such a long time. She will regret it a lot.. but maybe this moment will come when there is just nothing left to do. :shrug:

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 06:44 PM
So.. Rome draw to be done tomorrow.. by Ana! Ana, give yourself some luck. Draw yourself an UEs machine scrub please!

Open Bnl: tomorrow's draw for the women
Ceriomonia to Ana Ivanovic, nine blue in the main draw
April 29, 19:58

Open Bnl: tomorrow's draw for the women (ANSA) - ROMA, 29 APR - It 'program tomorrow at 12 in the draw for the main draw women of Italy Internazionali BNL 2010. Participate in the ceremony 'the Serbian Ana Ivanovic, winner in 2008 at Roland Garros. At the start all the top ten of WTA ranking tennis players and nine blue admitted directly to the main draw: Flavia Pennetta, Francesca Schiavone, Sara Errani, Tathiana Garbin and Roberta Vinci, Alberta Brianti, Maria Elena Camerin, Corinna Dentoni and Romina Oprandi.

http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/altrisport/2010/04/29/visualizza_new.html_1787393039.html

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 06:45 PM
I'm happy I just read that Ana fell 44 positions in the FHM hot list or something like that. Since those are the only lists her management seem to care about, maybe it will finally spark the red light. :o Pity she is still in the list though.. :rolleyes:

Curtos07
Apr 29th, 2010, 07:23 PM
So.. Rome draw to be done tomorrow.. by Ana! Ana, give yourself some luck. Draw yourself an UEs machine scrub please!


I hope she draw's JJ and gets her first top 10 win in 18 months against her. KARMA! :bounce:

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 07:25 PM
I hope she draw's JJ and gets her first top 10 win in 18 months against her. KARMA! :bounce:

You do know Ana will not beat JJ if they meet right? That's a huge wishful thinking.. :sad:

Curtos07
Apr 29th, 2010, 07:31 PM
You do know Ana will not beat JJ if they meet right? That's a huge wishful thinking.. :sad:

Yeah, I know. But we can hope for a miracle, can't we? :lol: Anyways, I hope Ana does something right and maybe give herself a easy qualifier in the 1st round. I want Ana to get at least one win before Roland Garros.

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 07:44 PM
Yeah, I know. But we can hope for a miracle, can't we? :lol: Anyways, I hope Ana does something right and maybe give herself a easy qualifier in the 1st round. I want Ana to get at least one win before Roland Garros.

Yes.. it's her best shot at a decent draw, as there are 8 byes. So she can get someone middle ranked.. :shrug:

I don't want her to play JJ, because I would be pissed with her losing to JJ after all the comments.

spiritedenergy
Apr 29th, 2010, 08:32 PM
there are 9 italians and none of them will get a bye, which means ana will probably draw an italian in rome:o

mure
Apr 29th, 2010, 08:35 PM
there are 9 italians and none of them will get a bye, which means ana will probably draw an italian in rome

that's good.Ana owns your compatriots.

I can't believe they're still inviting her to do draws and stuff..

gaviotabr
Apr 29th, 2010, 08:46 PM
that's good.Ana owns your compatriots.

I can't believe they're still inviting her to do draws and stuff..

That's all she does nowadays.. :sobbing:

bruce goose
Apr 29th, 2010, 09:18 PM
I agree that when she wakes up from this she will regret neglecting her tennis for such a long time. She will regret it a lot.. but maybe this moment will come when there is just nothing left to do. :shrug:Someday many years from now,Ana might be surfing the net and stumble across one of those empty puff articles by some sycophantic Aussie journalist who wants to 'shine Adam's little putter'...and the moronic,'expert' journalist's caption will read,"Ana looks happy."-----and then Ana will think to herself,":rolleyes:You mean,'blissfully retarded and naive'."

Got a scenario for you,Izzy...in fact,any woman is welcome to answer cuz I'd like to get your female intuition on this...though guys are welcome,too,if they feel called:angel::

Let's say that a volcano erupted in mid-December 2008...and Ana never attended that Rolex event...and Ana's Spanish was a little better...and Nando was a little wiser,maybe even knew how to mentally manipulate Ana like the Anal Tumor does...would we be seeing ANY difference now??Or would Ana have found a reason to quit anyway...perhaps WAGging at Nando's ATP events??To ME,the decline started during the offseason before 2009.Ana still fought hard,despite a nasty virus,at YEC 2008,and she showed plenty of signs of her old self prior to that in Zurich and Linz.She had ONE nice match vs. AMG at Fed Cup,and I consider Wimby's first three rounds in 2009 as an illusion.You've always said that Ana gets no luck...but she DID get lucky at Wimbledon for a while...with a weak draw of lousy grass-courters...Stosur's weakest surface BY FAR...and before Sam found her groove last year(she later destroyed Ana)...let's not forget Errani and Hradecka,crash-test dummies on grass...and Ana needed a choke from Lucie to get her 1st-Round win.Although Ana's 'injury' may have discouraged her(I still have major doubts about how serious the 'magic muscle tear' was),she knew deep down that Vee was kicking her ass and Ana's health had NO impact on the outcome...she was READY to quit.Ana may've gotten swept up in the fan hype with her wins b/c she is controlled by her base emotions,but true commitment to tennis was NEVER there,IMO.Basically,I'm saying that Ana has been mentally quitting more and more since that infamous off-season.She might pay millions for a Magic Wand that helped her get wins via mystical powers,but she won't risk facing her fear of failure by going all in....It's one of her psychological defenses,I'd say.What do you think??

spiritedenergy
Apr 29th, 2010, 09:41 PM
that's good.Ana owns your compatriots.

I can't believe they're still inviting her to do draws and stuff..

mmmhh i'm afraid if she draws one she'll lose

Pops Maellard
Apr 29th, 2010, 10:36 PM
I want Ana to get the worst draws possible. :o

That might end this delusion that she's still a top player. :cuckoo:

Adrian1092
Apr 29th, 2010, 10:50 PM
She'll probably draw Errani :sad:

-NAJ-
Apr 29th, 2010, 11:29 PM
There are no easy draws these days. It would be great if she makes some solid wins in Rome. I don't know from when will es show live matches?

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:42 AM
Ana gets Elena Vesnina in the first round of Rome. Winner meets Vika in round 2, Dementieva in round 3, Dinara in QF.

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:45 AM
Ugh, what a draw. :o

Vesnina 6-4 6-3 sadly. Even though I like Vesnina.

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:48 AM
Ugh, what a draw. :o

Vesnina 6-4 6-3 sadly. Even though I like Vesnina.

Yeah.. Ana could've given herself a bit more luck.. :o

And she drew Woz to meet ARad in QF.. :o:o:o

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:50 AM
Yeah.. Ana could've given herself a bit more luck.. :o

And she drew Woz to meet ARad in QF.. :o:o:o
What's so bad about Woz meeting A-Rad in QF? :lol:

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:52 AM
What's so bad about Woz meeting A-Rad in QF? :lol:

Everytime I watch them play each other I think the record for the most boring match ever has been broken.. :spit:

Nikkiri
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:52 AM
What's so bad about Woz meeting A-Rad in QF? :lol:

Another piss weak draw for Wozniacki? Aga is her bitch.

Anyways Vesnina is beatable.. I'm not gonna be so damn negative. She is improving. Play the big points well and she'll win.

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:53 AM
So can she win at least one match on clay this season ? :o
This is the best opportunity :rolleyes:

I also don`t like that she is doing draws and that kind of things :tape:
What a stupid draw ,Vika vs Elena in 3R :confused:

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:57 AM
Everytime I watch them play each other I think the record for the most boring match ever has been broken.. :spit:
:happy: It's funny how they both have 'z' in one of their names huh? You can replace it with :zzz:

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:57 AM
So can she win at least one match on clay this season ? :o
This is the best opportunity :rolleyes:

I also don`t like that she is doing draws and that kind of things :tape:
What a stupid draw ,Vika vs Elena in 3R :confused:

Hey Jelena!

Ana can beat Vesnina IMHO. But she has to go out there more focused and more determined.. like Kiristea says, win the points that matter. Vesnina is no slouch but isn't great either.. If Ana walks in like she has been in the past couple of months, she will probably lose though... :shrug: Her attitude sucks.. she needs some fire.

Vika is number 9 seed and Dementieva number 6. Seeds 5-8 meet seeds 9-12 in round 3. ;)

And I also wish she would stop doing these things.. but her manager is probably desperate to make her keep some sort of relevance and do promotion.. :rolleyes:

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:12 AM
Hey Jelena!

Ana can beat Vesnina IMHO. But she has to go out there more focused and more determined.. like Kiristea says, win the points that matter. Vesnina is no slouch but isn't great either.. If Ana walks in like she has been in the past couple of months, she will probably lose though... :shrug: Her attitude sucks.. she needs some fire.

Vika is number 9 seed and Dementieva number 6. Seeds 5-8 meet seeds 9-12 in round 3. ;)

And I also wish she would stop doing these things.. but her manager is probably desperate to make her keep some sort of relevance and do promotion.. :rolleyes:

Hey Izzy
So if she plays important points better she will win.She is so good in that :lol:
I know her manager makes her do promotions ,but i still don`t like it :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:15 AM
Hey Izzy
So if she plays important points better she will win.She is so good in that :lol:
I know her manager makes her do promotions ,but i still don`t like it :rolleyes:

I don't like it either.. she is like a commodity right now.. doing anything... everytime someone needs to promote a tournament, they call her because she is always available.. :rolleyes:

Yeah.. playing the points that matter well and winning them is the most difficult thing actually.. and for Ana it's a big hurdle right now.

mure
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:21 AM
Ana ready to conquer the soviet union :worship:

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:25 AM
Ana ready to conquer the soviet union :worship:

:spit:

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:27 AM
I don't like it either.. she is like a commodity right now.. doing anything... every time someone needs to promote a tournament, they call her because she is always available.. :rolleyes:



Sad but true

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:27 AM
Ana could beat Vesnina but then she'd run into Vika. Nightmare draw, even if Ana did play better here.

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Ana could beat Vesnina but then she'd run into Vika. Nightmare draw, even if Ana did play better here.

Yeah yeah.. and we have to remember Ana has always sucked in Rome. :shrug:

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Draw is up:

http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/2/public/pdf/SF.pdf?73DEIYKYMN5PWBTE9MW3TKSCT

Davodus
Apr 30th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Not a good draw at all. Vesnina alone is tough, let alone Azarenka in round 2 and Dementieva in round 3.

Protoss
Apr 30th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Yeah.. Ana could've given herself a bit more luck.. :o

And she drew Woz to meet ARad in QF.. :o:o:o
Well Ana did give herself a good 1st round, at least in my opinion.

I don't think they're gonna play as I think Flavia will beat Aga and if Caro isn't able to move much better she'll find it hard to win any matches. :shrug:

Everytime I watch them play each other I think the record for the most boring match ever has been broken.. :spit:
Bleh. :rolleyes:

Another piss weak draw for Wozniacki? Aga is her bitch.

Anyways Vesnina is beatable.. I'm not gonna be so damn negative. She is improving. Play the big points well and she'll win.
If you wanna whine about Caro's draw please take it to general messages. :p When you're injured I don't think there are easy draws and it's not like Caro is this uber clay court player normally particularly on red clay. :shrug: Btw, it's actually just 2-1 in Caro's favor. :shrug:

Or just play the big points not as bad as Vesnina who's not normally the paragon of mental toughness. :p

Anyways, I like Ana's chances to get through to the 2nd round. :)

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 02:16 PM
And I also wish she would stop doing these things.. but her manager is probably desperate to make her keep some sort of relevance and do promotion.. :rolleyes:Izzy,I'm still curious to hear what you think of the scenario I presented before(post 768).If Ana had never attended that cursed Rolex event and contracted her Anal Tumor,would she still be exactly where she is now??Let's say that she were still seeing Nando or Nadal(openly,this time).Would she just WAG at all THEIR events,or would she be more connected to tennis by virtue of being with an ATPer??....Can't wait 'til Ana starts dating some handsome Serbian porn star and starts WAGging at his film production scenes:lol:

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 02:20 PM
Izzy,I'm still curious to hear what you think of the scenario I presented before(post 768).If Ana had never attended that cursed Rolex event and contracted her Anal Tumor,would she still be exactly where she is now??Let's say that she were still seeing Nando or Nadal(openly,this time).Would she just WAG at all THEIR events,or would she be more connected to tennis by virtue of being with an ATPer??....Can't wait 'til Ana starts dating some handsome Serbian porn star and starts WAGging at his film production scenes:lol:
Let the porn star be Novak please.:drool: :happy:

The 2nd Law
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:18 PM
Vesnina is more winnable than ARad, it's a start :lol: Doubles???

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:20 PM
This is OT but,

Nando :speakles: :worship:

Nole :sad: :hug:

The 2nd Law
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Nando has been on fire lately, like Stosur :lol:
Please don't draw him again in Madrid Nole, you need to win to make up for these lost points :o

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:30 PM
Yeah I think the Stosur comparison is good, only Nando has beaten better players than Stosur has (respective to the tours) and got 2 titles instead of 1. :p

But anyway, I don't know how Nando's going to handle Madrid. He's running on fumes as it is. :o I love seeing him win but I also want him to have some much-deserve rest.

The 2nd Law
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:33 PM
Yeah I think the Stosur comparison is good, only Nando has beaten better players than Stosur has (respective to the tours) and got 2 titles instead of 1. :p

But anyway, I don't know how Nando's going to handle Madrid. He's running on fumes as it is. :o I love seeing him win but I also want him to have some much-deserve rest.

Lol I wasn't being too specific, just that they are each the red hot clay players resectively, and both fanbases are worried that their player will burn out for RG :p


I reckon Ana is gonna beat Vesnina!

Curtos07
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:45 PM
Come on guys, if she can't beat Vesnina, she has no business even being on the tennis court. Ana will win, and who knows, maybe shocks the world and beats a slumping Azarenka? OK, that's crazy talk. :lol: Please just beat Vesnina, Ana. :p

Cp6uja
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:05 PM
Vesnina is about #30 ranked right now, but at clay she is somewhere about #60. On other hand Ana is currently about #60 (WTA and FHM both ;)), but at clay she is still at least TOP30.

Walkover in 2nd round vs injured Azarenka is not that good for Ana because she needs more matches, but at least she will defend her 2009 Rome points.

Win in 3rd round match against Dementieva not seems realistic right now, but if Ana somehow survive everything will be possible in Rome! BTW red clay in Rome is faster than in Paris or Madrid (or Berlin from past), so no surprise why at this red clay event Ana results are much worse than at Berlin or Paris.

I don't like it either.. she is like a commodity right now.. doing anything... everytime someone needs to promote a tournament, they call her because she is always available.. :rolleyes:

because she is always available.. still real WTA tour superstar! That is reason why Ana this season draws WTA part of Main Draw in Melbourne at AO GS (or here in Rome), that's why she replace injured Serena from BJK Cup in New York instead any other WTA player with much better 2009 GS results than Ana, that's why Ivanovic is central figure in promotion of Madrid masters together with Madrid mayor, Spanish tennis legend Santana and tournament president ex-ATP and billionaire Tiriac, and that's why on her Stuttgart 1st round match no empty seed (despite that night Bayern played Champions league semifinal)...

All this is actually very good for Ana because she will feel and realize how so many people really care about her, which probably will motivate her to not give up of tennis if this big slump still continue!

InsideOut.
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:14 PM
The best thing about this draw is that Ana most likely won't get bagelled since Vesnina will make a few errors here or there.

Hope she can get a set :yeah: But I will be happy with a 5-7 or 6-7 set :o

-NAJ-
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:25 PM
Vesnina have some injury i think. At family circle cup she made w.o. in doubles match.

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:39 PM
This is OT but,

Nando :speakles: :worship:

Nole :sad: :hug:

Aaron, I'm really SO impressed with Nando. :worship: He is playing some top notch tennis.. and even more importantly, he has been composed and determined. It's actually a pleasure to watch someone show fire, desire and focus nowadays.. I have to say it has been a rare quality. All these wins only show how Nando decided to commit and dedicate himself to tennis. :worship:

Nole.. :sad: He needs to sort himself out. He still plays well, but the serve and the stamina are not the same.

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:40 PM
Vesnina have some injury i think. At family circle cup she made w.o. in doubles match.

Doesn't mean much.. I mean.. before last year's USO, Kateryna Bondarenko retired from a doubles match at New Haven because of leg injury, only to beat Ana at the USO first round. :shrug:

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:42 PM
Yeah I think the Stosur comparison is good, only Nando has beaten better players than Stosur has (respective to the tours) and got 2 titles instead of 1. :p

But anyway, I don't know how Nando's going to handle Madrid. He's running on fumes as it is. :o I love seeing him win but I also want him to have some much-deserve rest.

What I do hope is for Nando not to play Nice. He has it on his schedule, but it's crazy to play the week before RG when he has been getting to the tail end of all clay tournaments.

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:43 PM
Bleh. :rolleyes:


You are a Caro fan... :shrug:

gaviotabr
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:47 PM
Izzy,I'm still curious to hear what you think of the scenario I presented before(post 768).If Ana had never attended that cursed Rolex event and contracted her Anal Tumor,would she still be exactly where she is now??Let's say that she were still seeing Nando or Nadal(openly,this time).Would she just WAG at all THEIR events,or would she be more connected to tennis by virtue of being with an ATPer??....Can't wait 'til Ana starts dating some handsome Serbian porn star and starts WAGging at his film production scenes:lol:

:lol:

I don't know Bruce.. I've never been good with fortune telling.. :lol::spit:

But I'm beginning to think this relationship has not been good to either Ana's or Adam's sports career. He is about to (or already did) miss the cut in the event he has just played. And Ana.. well.. no need for explanation.

As for Nando.. all the 3 matches he saw Ana play live, she lost.. But maybe his love for tennis and dedication could have rubbed off on her. Or not.. I really don't know.. :shrug:

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 05:20 PM
:lol:

I don't know Bruce.. I've never been good with fortune telling.. :lol::spit:

But I'm beginning to think this relationship has not been good to either Ana's or Adam's sports career. He is about to (or already did) miss the cut in the event he has just played. And Ana.. well.. no need for explanation.

As for Nando.. all the 3 matches he saw Ana play live, she lost.. But maybe his love for tennis and dedication could have rubbed off on her. Or not.. I really don't know.. :shrug::lol:Yeah,I'll admit that speculation is an inexact science....I was just wondering partly because a half-decent ATP bf might,theoretically-speaking,do Ana some good....So,if there are any male tennis players out there--guys with honest character--who are interested in Ana...then just let me know...and we'll make plans to remove that short-term Douchebag obstacle who's in your path right now............Btw,Izzy,I'd say that the Tumor was just a flash-in-the-pan...that he was never that talented.When you consider how the PGA desperately wants to fight its image as a geriatric sport(if it even IS a sport),they just picked some pretty-boy type,a male Kournikova of sorts(only less skilled),to market golf to women and young people.According to some of his helmet-shiners,he played really well at the Masters.....but he finished in EIGHTEENTH place...FIFTEEN shots off the lead:haha::haha:.He should pursue that boxing career I suggested for him a couple months back;Mike Tyson is fairly old now....Adam's ready for him!!:p;)

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 06:36 PM
So i`m watching JJ vs Justine
When the match started i cheered for JJ :rolleyes:
From 4-4 and 2 games on Justine`s serve went to multiple deuces plus TB JJ hit 1(one) winner
I seriously don`t understand these kind of players.I really don`t :tape::o:help:

You are supposed to win important points,big points...matches. They are not going to handed to you when you face a good player
Pathetic really :o
And then her fans wander why she hasn`t won a slam, why she couldn`t beat Justine at USO or Ana at RG

Btw Justine serve and return are horrible.I never saw JJ had so many free points on her serve against someone :lol::lol: JJ had 100% points won on second serve :confused::lol:

Jang87
Apr 30th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Vesnina is actually not a consistent tennis player. She can hit winners, but she can also hit alot UE. Lets hope she has a very bad day when she plays Ana :D.

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 07:17 PM
And ofc Justine won :lol:
When will Ana play ,on Monday? Maybe there will be stream like last year.Some Italian channel was broadcasting tennis if i remember correctly

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:30 PM
New article on Ana on Rome website.

http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/PopNews.asp?LNG=EN&IDNews=560

From world No.1 in June 2008 to No.57 in April 2010, Ana Ivanovic’s career has gone off the rails in quite spectacular fashion.

Her changes in coach, ups and downs in her private life and the inability to get any kind of winning run together have been well documented over the past two years, but she is still one of the poster girls for women’s tennis, and as such was a logical choice to perform the draw ceremony for the WTA leg of the Internazionali BNL d’Italia.

“I definitely feel that I’m playing better thanks to my new coach (Swiss Davis Cup legend Heinz Gunthardt). I’m more confident and I enjoy going onto the court. I try not to think about the past but I think it’s better to look towards the future.”

The immediate future is a first round tie against Elena Vesnina, a player ranked 25 places above her in the world. “It doesn’t matter – it’s to be expected when you are an unseeded player like me, you are bound to play against seeded players,” said the 22-year-old who, if she gets through that first test will face No.9 Victoria Azarenka. “I think it is more important to concentrate more on my game and anyway, a lot of these big players I have already played against and won.”

She has indeed beaten most of the circuit’s top players, but not everyone would expect her to be able to compete with the best once again. Does she herself still have the belief that she can make it back to the very top? “Yes, definitely. I think I have the game for that. Maybe I will not be exactly what I was in the past but I will be a complete player thanks to the experience that I have built up in the past. There are so many things that I am working on. I am such a perfectionist but I tend to rush, especially in the past. In the past few months I have been working very hard but with no results and so I decided that I should be patient and build up my game gradually.”

However gradually it may be and however much patience it requires, the return of Ana Ivanovic to anything resembling the peak of her powers would be very good news for women’s tennis.

Is that why you're having panic attacks Ana? :confused:

Curtos07
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:36 PM
Andrea Petkovic's latest tweet. :sobbing:
@andreapetkovic: Welcome @juliagoerges to twitter...Ana is a tough one to convince

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:37 PM
New article on Ana on Rome website.

http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/PopNews.asp?LNG=EN&IDNews=560



Is that why you're having panic attacks Ana? :confused:Actually,Aaron,that one was already posted in the Articles thread...by Izzy,I think...but your effort is certainly appreciated;)....I'd say that Ana had a panic attack vs. Venus at Wimby

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:38 PM
Actually,Aaron,that one was already posted in the Articles thread...by Izzy,I think...but your effort is certainly appreciated;)....I'd say that Ana had a panic attack vs. Venus at Wimby
There's a thread for everything around here. :cuckoo: :lol:

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:39 PM
Andrea Petkovic's latest tweet. :sobbing:What do you suppose Andrea means,specifically,by that comment?

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:46 PM
Andrea Petkovic's latest tweet. :sobbing:

Yeah i saw it :lol:
Andrea is great girl,i can`t believe she really talked to Ana about it just bc we asked her :worship::worship:
Now thinking we should have asked her to tell Ana not to fire Heinz and that her fitness coach sucks since she gained weight and her footwork is awful :lol: We could ,just saying :lol:
There's a thread for everything around here. :cuckoo: :lol:

Ofc :p
Anapolis is well organized :lol:

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:54 PM
Yeah i saw it :lol:
Andrea is great girl,i can`t believe she really talked to Ana about it just bc we asked her :worship::worship:


Ofc :p
Anapolis is well organized :lol:Indeed,Andrea is a very intelligent,gorgeous,dark-haired Serb like Ana....except she seems to be on the opposite end of the scale in poise and common sense............but what was it that you asked her to ask Ana?????

Curtos07
Apr 30th, 2010, 08:56 PM
What do you suppose Andrea means,specifically,by that comment?

We asked Andrea if she could ask Ana to join twitter. She replied to us that she would ask and apparently Ana won't join. :(

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:01 PM
Indeed,Andrea is a very intelligent,gorgeous,dark-haired Serb like Ana....except she seems to be on the opposite end of the scale in poise and common sense............but what was it that you asked her to ask Ana?????

Curtis is asking everyone to convince Ana to join twitter,so i asked Andrea the same :lol:
I don`t see Ana joining twitter anyway :lol:

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Ana's a comfortable poll favourite to beat Ves in Rome. :cool:

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:03 PM
We asked Andrea if she could ask Ana to join twitter. She replied to us that she would ask and apparently Ana won't join. :(Is that surprising??Ana prefers scripted answers that have been prepped by Gavin Versi and his PR cronies.If Ana were on Twitter,then she wouldn't have so much time to contrive her answers and she MIGHT,God forbid:rolleyes:,actually start blurting out the truth by accident

Curtos07
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:07 PM
Is that surprising??Ana prefers scripted answers that have been prepped by Gavin Versi and his PR cronies.If Ana were on Twitter,then she wouldn't have so much time to contrive her answers and she MIGHT,God forbid:rolleyes:,actually start blurting out the truth by accident

:lol: Actually it's very easy to give scripted answers on twitter.

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:08 PM
Is that surprising??Ana prefers scripted answers that have been prepped by Gavin Versi and his PR cronies.If Ana were on Twitter,then she wouldn't have so much time to contrive her answers and she MIGHT,God forbid:rolleyes:,actually start blurting out the truth by accident

You have a point there bc twitter is very addictive and revealing when you start writing a lot :lol:
Since Ana likes her privacy i don`t see her joining twitter
That`s too bad bc twitter also gives you a great relationship and more close one with your followers/fans
I can just imagine Ana`s dorky tweets :lol: :lol:

Curtos07
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:08 PM
Curtis is asking everyone to convince Ana to join twitter,so i asked Andrea the same :lol:
I don`t see Ana joining twitter anyway :lol:

I am never giving up. I am going to write Ana in that Pink Envelope thing at her official forum. :lol:

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:16 PM
You have a point there bc twitter is very addictive and revealing when you start writing a lot :lol:
Since Ana likes her privacy i don`t see her joining twitter
That`s too bad bc twitter also gives you a great relationship and more close one with your followers/fans
I can just imagine Ana`s dorky tweets :lol: :lol:
Maybe Ana knows her fans would tell her things she don't wanna hear. :secret:

:p

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:17 PM
You have a point there bc twitter is very addictive and revealing when you start writing a lot :lol:
Since Ana likes her privacy i don`t see her joining twitter
That`s too bad bc twitter also gives you a great relationship and more close one with your followers/fans
I can just imagine Ana`s dorky tweets :lol: :lol:The gals in Dinara's forum have been joyous since she joined...and she leaves some great tweets:).I'm sure Curtos is right that you could still script your answers...however,it would be obvious that Ana had done that if she answered a ton of questions in rapid succession...and then took 24 hours to reply to pointed ones such as,'Why have you gained so much weight since you hired your new conditioning coach,Ana??And how much time do you spend physically training every day?".....She'd have to go to the 'war room' for input on those:lol:

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:26 PM
I am never giving up. I am going to write Ana in that Pink Envelope thing at her official forum. :lol:

:lol:
That PE is going to be delivered in Rome?
Maybe Ana knows her fans would tell her things she don't wanna hear. :secret:

:p

As i said i don`t think that`s the problem :lol: Ana likes her privacy and twitter can be very revealing especially when you become addicted to it
Like she is Rome now and she can post a picture from a dinner she is having with her team or stuff like that ...
Twitter gives you a more close relationship
And if you write something bad to her she can always block you :lol: so i don`t see people doing it
Besides many of her fans are as delusional as she is :lol:

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:35 PM
The gals in Dinara's forum have been joyous since she joined...and she leaves some great tweets:).I'm sure Curtos is right that you could still script your answers...however,it would be obvious that Ana had done that if she answered a ton of questions in rapid succession...and then took 24 hours to reply to pointed ones such as,'Why have you gained so much weight since you hired your new conditioning coach,Ana??And how much time do you spend physically training every day?".....She'd have to go to the 'war room' for input on those:lol:

Well she would probably have many followers so she wouldn`t have the time to respond to questions :lol:
Maybe just once in a while to some she find interesting :lol:
Twitter is more about her sharing some private things,quotes,photos with her fans than about answering questions :lol:

I follow Sveta her English is bad :lol: but she is great and writes also in Russian and that`s awesome :yeah: :worship:

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:39 PM
:lol: Anyone seen this Lapushchenkova girl? She beats Vika and Safarova and is in a Premier semifinal :rolls:. I haven't seen her play but apparently she 'hits winners all over the court' lol

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:46 PM
:lol: Anyone seen this Lapushchenkova girl? She beats Vika and Safarova and is in a Premier semifinal :rolls:. I haven't seen her play but apparently she 'hits winners all over the court' lol

I haven`t see her play but Vika is injured and in a bit of slump ,Safarova is Safarova when she isn`t playing Ana so i don`t know :lol:
Maybe she is good but GM tends to overreact
Oudine was the next big thing during USO,so was Pavlyuchenkova during IW :lol:

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:48 PM
I haven`t see her play but Vika is injured and in a bit of slump ,Safarova is Safarova when she isn`t playing Ana so i don`t know :lol:
Maybe she is good but GM tends to overreact
Oudine was the next big thing during USO,so was Pavlyuchenkova during IW :lol:
And of course Dulgheru winning Warsaw last year. :rolls: The WTA is crazy shit. :p

Curtos07
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:50 PM
:lol:
That PE is going to be delivered in Rome?
Yes, but I missed the deadline. So I will write one for Madrid. :lol:

As i said i don`t think that`s the problem :lol: Ana likes her privacy and twitter can be very revealing especially when you become addicted to it
Like she is Rome now and she can post a picture from a dinner she is having with her team or stuff like that ...
Twitter gives you a more close relationship
And if you write something bad to her she can always block you :lol: so i don`t see people doing it
Besides many of her fans are as delusional as she is :lol:

She'll probably be kind of boring. "I am here in Rome. I am really excited." Or, "I played really well today. Vesnina is a tough opponent. I am improving!" after she loses to her in straight sets. :lol:

BTW, Sveta is going on another twitter rage right now as I type this. :lol:

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 09:54 PM
And of course Dulgheru winning Warsaw last year. :rolls: The WTA is crazy shit. :p

It really is :lol:
Bunch of mental midgets and emotionally unstable girls :lol:
I blame their parents :lol:

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:01 PM
Yes, but I missed the deadline. So I will write one for Madrid. :lol:

She'll probably be kind of boring. "I am here in Rome. I am really excited." Or, "I played really well today. Vesnina is a tough opponent. I am improving!" after she loses to her in straight sets. :lol:

BTW, Sveta is going on another twitter rage right now as I type this. :lol:
I bet Ana would recommend some good book to us :lol:
Sveta is great :lol::lol:
Love her :hearts:

SO sick to read coments of ppl talking negotive sh** of my tennis latly! guys u have nothing ells to do then puting so much negotivity out

In case you wandered why she is good friend with Ana :lol::worship:

Pops Maellard
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:10 PM
It really is :lol:
Bunch of mental midgets and emotionally unstable girls :lol:
I blame their parents :lol:
I actually thought that women were more prone to being better under pressure situations because they have to bear children etc. and were supposed to mature at an earlier rate mentally than men. I guess the WTA missed that memo. :p

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:28 PM
I actually thought that women were more prone to being better under pressure situations because they have to bear children etc. and were supposed to mature at an earlier rate mentally than men. I guess the WTA missed that memo. :p

I think i`ts different with tennis players
Most of them didn`t go to regular elementary school not to mention high school,and that part of growing up is missing.Also they are always with the same people,same environment....All of that can not be healthy and it leaves consequences. Ofc it`s good for their tennis results

I guess many women get that mental stability after having children :confused: Just look at Kim

Also Ana and other girls are very attached to their families even more than boys. Dragana is going with Ana even on her practices ,same with JJ and her mother
If i spent so much time with my parents i would go crazy even if i`m very close with them .I just need my time/space
I guess it`s different with them ,different psychology :lol:

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:46 PM
Well she would probably have many followers so she wouldn`t have the time to respond to questions :lol:
Maybe just once in a while to some she find interesting :lol:
Twitter is more about her sharing some private things,quotes,photos with her fans than about answering questions :lol:

I follow Sveta her English is bad :lol: but she is great and writes also in Russian and that`s awesome :yeah: :worship:Sveta learned Spanish so that she could flirt with Rafa;do you suppose he has any 'female friends' who look like Sveta:lol:?Or can you imagine the English conversation between THOSE two??:haha:Seriously,I regret those nasty things I said about Svet while I was pissed off over Dinara's RG choke.So many of Dinara's fans like Svet,too,and they LOVE her for her tweets.I'm not sure if she and Dinara are legit friends or simply friend--LY,but they hang out a lot at the big tourneys.

Jelena,Ana is sorta like Puerto Rico....We rag on the Puerto Ricans sometimes b/c they claim to be proudly independent...yet every couple years they renew their vote to remain a Protectorate of the United States:lol:.They DO have some degree of independence,of course,but they enjoy playing both sides of the fence....Ana is similar:Her self-esteem gets a huge boost from the fans' adulation,yet she always keeps them at arm's length...ESPECIALLY when explaining her commitment--or lack thereof--to tennis:p

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:03 PM
Sveta learned Spanish so that she could flirt with Rafa;do you suppose he has any 'female friends' who look like Sveta:lol:?Or can you imagine the English conversation between THOSE two??:haha:Seriously,I regret those nasty things I said about Svet while I was pissed off over Dinara's RG choke.So many of Dinara's fans like Svet,too,and they LOVE her for her tweets.I'm not sure if she and Dinara are legit friends or simply friend--LY,but they hang out a lot at the big tourneys.

Jelena,Ana is sorta like Puerto Rico....We rag on the Puerto Ricans sometimes b/c they claim to be proudly independent...yet every couple years they renew their vote to remain a Protectorate of the United States:lol:.They DO have some degree of independence,of course,but they enjoy playing both sides of the fence....Ana is similar:Her self-esteem gets a huge boost from the fans' adulation,yet she always keeps them at arm's length...ESPECIALLY when explaining her commitment--or lack thereof--to tennis:p

Ana is like Puerto Rico :haha:
That has to the best comparison ever :worship:
I get what you are trying to say ,but can`t say i blame her tbh
You and your love for Rafa :hearts::lol:

bruce goose
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:13 PM
Ana is like Puerto Rico :haha:
That has to the best comparison ever :worship:
I get what you are trying to say ,but can`t say i blame her tbh
You and your love for Rafa :hearts::lol:Yeah,I respect Ana's right to privacy...she absolutely deserves that as a human being...on the flip side,she can't complain if fans desert her when she shows so little respect for their intelligence with her contrived pressers.Still,loyal fans will stick by her even through these lousy times.....

You'll see that I went fairly light on Rafa with that post:angel:;I do my best b/c I really like a few of his mouthy,opinionated fans:smooch:

jelenacg
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Yeah,I respect Ana's right to privacy...she absolutely deserves that as a human being...on the flip side,she can't complain if fans desert her when she shows so little respect for their intelligence with her contrived pressers.Still,loyal fans will stick by her even through these lousy times.....

You'll see that I went fairly light on Rafa with that post:angel:;I do my best b/c I really like a few of his mouthy,opinionated fans:smooch:

Ana doesn`t take seriously her pressers.She always know what she will be asked so she always says the same things .It was always like that ,it`s not something new but now she is losing so we are paying more attention to everything she does/says :lol:

You do know that you will eventually end up liking Rafa :hearts: It`s a very thin line between love and hate :lol:

bruce goose
May 1st, 2010, 12:43 AM
Ana doesn`t take seriously her pressers.She always know what she will be asked so she always says the same things .It was always like that ,it`s not something new but now she is losing so we are paying more attention to everything she does/says :lol:

You do know that you will eventually end up liking Rafa :hearts: It`s a very thin line between love and hate :lol:You're right,her pressers were always inane...but maybe she should sober up a little bit in light of the gravity of her situation:o

Forget ambiguity:If he ever helped Ana snap out of her stupor,then I'd send you a PM that showed me wearing a 'Vamos Rafa' T-shirt:lol:....Don't hold your breath on THAT happening,though:p

The 2nd Law
May 1st, 2010, 12:53 AM
Last night I was reading the forums till 2am and then I dreamt that Ana won Rome and the entire board went nuts :worship::lol::tape: In the dream after watching Ana win the final I came to check Anapolis but the name was changed to something weird I can't even remember because it was such a strange name, and everyone was carrying on like she had just won RG :weirdo::bowdown::spit:

hellas719
May 1st, 2010, 06:09 AM
Horrible draw in Rome :(
But a win vs. Vesnina would be enough to satisfy me :D

gaviotabr
May 1st, 2010, 01:22 PM
I think Ana is reluctant to join twitter or anything on internet because she just doesn't want to read anything about herself. In one of those interviews she gave in Madrid couple of weeks ago she said she doesn't read anything about herself because whatever she reads she just takes it too much to heart. So she is probably afraid to read people criticizing her, because that would hurt her deeply.

I have an opinion on that.. but I'll just leave at people should know how to deal wisely with constructive criticism, and know how to ignore the destructive ones.

Anyway.. really nice of Andrea to ask Ana about it. She always comes accross as a very cool girl. I wish Ana can play some more doubles with her in the future.

gaviotabr
May 1st, 2010, 01:25 PM
Nando ran out of steam.. he looked dead tired at the end of his match against Ferrer. Some much needed rest before Madrid..

Henin is in the final of Stuttgart.. I think she has a huge chance of getting her first title since her comeback. She will probably face Stosur in the final..

gaviotabr
May 1st, 2010, 01:26 PM
Last night I was reading the forums till 2am and then I dreamt that Ana won Rome and the entire board went nuts :worship::lol::tape: In the dream after watching Ana win the final I came to check Anapolis but the name was changed to something weird I can't even remember because it was such a strange name, and everyone was carrying on like she had just won RG :weirdo::bowdown::spit:

Awesome dream! :lol:

Davodus
May 1st, 2010, 02:03 PM
Nando ran out of steam.. he looked dead tired at the end of his match against Ferrer. Some much needed rest before Madrid..

Henin is in the final of Stuttgart.. I think she has a huge chance of getting her first title since her comeback. She will probably face Stosur in the final..

Henin/Stosur would be really interesting. I think they are 2 of the biggest favourites for Roland Garros, and I think it could be a really good match between them.

InsideOut.
May 1st, 2010, 03:12 PM
Is Ana playing doubles in Rome? :scratch:

Cp6uja
May 1st, 2010, 03:18 PM
...I came to check Anapolis but the name was changed to something weird I can't even remember because it was such a strange name...Not whole subforum name, but just this thread title will be changed already after Ana 1st round win in Rome against Vesnina :shrug:

New thread name: (and I'm very serious about this VirginMary!)
The Dirrty Season begins: Don't mess with Ana - Cassius Clay is her best friend!

spiritedenergy
May 1st, 2010, 08:25 PM
i was looking at the highilights of henin-jankovic... what a match! Ana would have won like 3 points LOL
they were playing very aggressive tennis, it looks like tennis is evolving and if Ana doesn't catch up she'll be left behind... she needs both power and fitness and stamina, she needs to get in better shape

Curtos07
May 1st, 2010, 08:32 PM
Is Ana playing doubles in Rome? :scratch:

No, unfortunately. I don't understand it. She only plays doubles like a couple of times each year. If they're using doubles as extra match practice, then why don't they either play it all the time or more consistently? :shrug:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 1st, 2010, 09:07 PM
1st round against Vesnina. I haven't seen the matches against Aga, but at least she could make it close.
It's about time to score a win here.
I hear now all things that it is going better and that's she's even gonna be a complete player.
For now that's all BS. It doesn't matter if we believe it or she says it. Only thing that matters is that she believes it. Rome is another chance.
Azarenka can be a 2nd round opponent and I wonder if she's 100% fit.

bruce goose
May 1st, 2010, 09:32 PM
The number '6' is often cited in numerology as representative of the devil,so it's only fitting that Lapushchenkova won 6 matches in Stuttgart as the reward of her pact with him.I hope she enjoyed herself enough to offset her torment when's she burning in the eternal Abyss:p.Currently,in the Anna/Ana competition,it's:

Lapushchenkova 6
Ivanovic 5

...in the race for most WTA Tour victories in 2010.The Russian Anna has the advantage of facing easier opponents in qualifying...so that means that our Serbian Ana must counter by playing more MM events....You can win this,Ana!!!:woohoo:

The 2nd Law
May 2nd, 2010, 12:09 AM
The number '6' is often cited in numerology as representative of the devil,so it's only fitting that Lapushchenkova won 6 matches in Stuttgart as the reward of her pact with him.I hope she enjoyed herself enough to offset her torment when's she burning in the eternal Abyss:p.Currently,in the Anna/Ana competition,it's:

Lapushchenkova 6
Ivanovic 5

...in the race for most WTA Tour victories in 2010.The Russian Anna has the advantage of facing easier opponents in qualifying...so that means that our Serbian Ana must counter by playing more MM events....You can win this,Ana!!!:woohoo:

? :lol:


I'm baffled about why she isn't playing doubles again, poor Petkovic has to play with Keothavong now :lol:

spiritedenergy
May 2nd, 2010, 02:48 AM
? :lol:

I'm baffled about why she isn't playing doubles again, poor Petkovic has to play with Keothavong now :lol:

it would be too much for her hectic schedule:rolleyes:

Cp6uja
May 2nd, 2010, 11:32 AM
I check odds of Ana 1st round match and Ana is finally noted like favorite against some better ranked player. W.Hill odds on Ana is 1.67 vs 2.10 Vesnina. BTW W.Hill give odds on Ana to win title in Rome 67.00 :help: and on Pennetta 21.00, but W.Hill odds to win Roland Garros where competition is much stronger (all best compete, including Henin) on Ivanovic is 34.00 and on Pennetta is 101.00 :spit: (same bookmaker, same surface, same month, but odds is so opposite about this two).

Marilyn Monheaux
May 2nd, 2010, 01:23 PM
New thread name: (and I'm very serious about this VirginMary!)
The Dirrty Season begins: Don't mess with Ana - Cassius Clay is her best friend!

If Ana wins her first round, she'll draw even and I'll change the thread title accordingly to something more positive. If she loses, however,...:shrug:

bruce goose
May 2nd, 2010, 03:19 PM
If Ana wins her first round, she'll draw even and I'll change the thread title accordingly to something more positive. If she loses, however,...:shrug:She has to AT LEAST pull into a tie with Lapushchenkova on the list for "Most Wins By An 'Ana/Anna/Anne' for 2010"...of course,I'm excluding ANAstasia or AravANE in order to simplify the tabulations:p....

Davodus
May 2nd, 2010, 03:37 PM
My friend said she met Ana's aunt yesterday :speakles: In Holland, she is working there at the moment. So cool :lol:

bruce goose
May 2nd, 2010, 03:42 PM
My friend said she met Ana's aunt yesterday :speakles: In Holland, she is working there at the moment. So cool :lol:How fitting to hear from you right now,because the lovely German ANNA-Lena in your avy is currently in 2nd place for most wins by an Ana/Anna/Anne in 2010.Despite injury setbacks,Groenefeld has 8 WTA wins,just two behind the Georgian Anna Tatishvili who has 10.Our lovely Serbian Ana is in a three-way tie with Chaky and Keothavong who both have five,too

Davodus
May 2nd, 2010, 03:55 PM
Shame she hasn't played since Monterrey then :sad:

Curtos07
May 2nd, 2010, 06:48 PM
Ana plays tomorrow night on center court at 8:30 PM CET. I'll be out of class by then! :bounce: I think there are streams for CC matches too, but I am not sure.

http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/ProgrammaRisultati.asp?LNG=IT&Date=20100503

doni1212
May 3rd, 2010, 03:30 AM
I don't think I'll be able to see it...and if it's anything like what we suffered through last time than I'm glad, :sad:

doni1212
May 3rd, 2010, 03:32 AM
Also, I don't feel like going back through all these pages (b/c it will make me feel sad) but did we ever find out what was wrong with Ana's breathing in that last match?

hellas719
May 3rd, 2010, 03:51 AM
Please win Ana, please! :sobbing:

bruce goose
May 3rd, 2010, 04:14 AM
Also, I don't feel like going back through all these pages (b/c it will make me feel sad) but did we ever find out what was wrong with Ana's breathing in that last match?Many people now,including a few with medical backgrounds,believe that she's suffering from panic attacks sometimes on court....On the bright side,Ana isn't in last place in the Ana/Anne/Anna race for 2010(amongst Top 200 players);that distinction belongs to Italy's Anna Floris,who has only 2 WTA wins this year...both of them in AO Qualies

Nena_xxx
May 3rd, 2010, 08:39 AM
Will be live stream from CC?

jelenacg
May 3rd, 2010, 10:20 AM
Ana plays tomorrow night on center court at 8:30 PM CET. I'll be out of class by then! :bounce: I think there are streams for CC matches too, but I am not sure.

http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.it/1/ProgrammaRisultati.asp?LNG=IT&Date=20100503

I won`t be able to see it ,maybe someone will record it if there are any streams

About Ana's breathing problems or panic attacks,why would she have them in some meaningless match and while she was losing anyway
She lost to Aga a few weeks before and she didn`t have breathing problems

She had some breathing problems during her match against Vika at RG,i can understand that.But why would she have it in this match ?
I could say that playing more tournaments would help her with this problem but what`s the point :rolleyes:
She doesn`t want to play more anyway

InsideOut.
May 3rd, 2010, 02:39 PM
Does anyone know if there'll be a stream? :unsure: They aren't even showing Kirilenko-Kuznetsova on stream now, and it's on CENTRE COURT. :help:

Marilyn Monheaux
May 3rd, 2010, 04:07 PM
I'm watching Kiri-Sveta right now.;)

http://www.fromsport.com/video-244340.html

InsideOut.
May 3rd, 2010, 04:17 PM
Sveta :tape: I didn't catch the last point what happened?

Davodus
May 3rd, 2010, 04:37 PM
I am gonna fall asleep before Ana's match :yawn: damn

InsideOut.
May 3rd, 2010, 04:38 PM
I'm going to sleep in a while and then wake up later to follow the match. Hope I can get up :tape: I really wanna watch.

soul
May 3rd, 2010, 07:47 PM
woooooooooooooov well doneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

The Daviator
May 3rd, 2010, 07:47 PM
61 63 over Vesnina.

Great first set, pushed a bit in the second, but a good result overall, this is her easiest win in forever :lol: :tape:

Marilyn Monheaux
May 3rd, 2010, 07:47 PM
Next up: Azarenka!:sobbing:

Andreas
May 3rd, 2010, 07:51 PM
Ana didn't face a single break point thorough the match. Who would have thought that? :worship:

My two biggest faves going up against each other in the next match :bigcry:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 3rd, 2010, 07:52 PM
A win and not even a BP faced. That's a long time ago.
She seemed still very slow, but also more aggressive now. Not so many UE's as well.
Overall it's indeed improving.
Now let's see what this game does against Azarenka.

Curtos07
May 3rd, 2010, 07:54 PM
OK, Nobody can deny that Ana played great tennis today. Best match since Stosur at Wimbledon last year and maybe her best since Roland garros 2008. Awesome stuff from Ana. Didn't even face break point once during the entire match! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 07:55 PM
Hey, Vesnina sucked or what? I wish all Ana opponents played this bad! :lol:

Ana had some nice serves though. I liked that.. only 2 bad tosses in the whole match, which looks good to me! The BH is still a mess.. she can't sustain a rally with it, so she opted to slice a LOT. That can be good (not that many shanks, though there were a couple of really bad ones), and bad (some Woz worthy pushing going on).

One think that sounds almost like a miracle.. first match in ages that Ana didn't even face BP. :worship:

But I think it was pretty clear from her interview that she has no faith in herself for tomorrow. I don't think that she believes she can beat Vika. My only hope is that Vika plays Vesnina like, and gifts Ana the match.. otherwise it might just be her 11th straight top 10 loss. Vika is already a bad match up for Ana.

Good thing is that they will have a night match again. Less wind.. Last match on Pietrangeli court.

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 07:56 PM
OK, Nobody can deny that Ana played great tennis today. Best match since Stosur at Wimbledon last year and maybe her best since Roland garros 2008. Awesome stuff from Ana. Didn't even face break point once during the entire match! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I think she played decent tennis, helped by an awful opponent. She was still slow as hell, and her BH is completely helpless.

I do agree that it's probably her best win since Stosur at Wimbledon though. But that's really not that hard.. :lol:

Just Do It
May 3rd, 2010, 07:59 PM
A win :worship:

InsideOut.
May 3rd, 2010, 08:01 PM
Ana :cheer:

OMG I am so fail :cuckoo: I fell asleep on my bed 3 hours ago and woke up now :o Missed it completely :rolleyes:

Curtos07
May 3rd, 2010, 08:01 PM
I think she played decent tennis, helped by an awful opponent. She was still slow as hell, and her BH is completely helpless.

I do agree that it's probably her best win since Stosur at Wimbledon though. But that's really not that hard.. :lol:

:lol: Vika is going to be tough, but isn't she a little injured? Maybe, just maybe Ana will get some help tomorrow and that would be huge. Now I am just afraid of getting my hopes up too high before tomorrows match. :lol: I don't want to be disapointed. Got to bring myself down on this high.

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 08:03 PM
Ana :cheer:

OMG I am so fail :cuckoo: I fell asleep on my bed 3 hours ago and woke up now :o Missed it completely :rolleyes:

oh!

At least she won.. :shrug::bounce:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 08:04 PM
:lol: Vika is going to be tough, but isn't she a little injured? Maybe, just maybe Ana will get some help tomorrow and that would be huge. Now I am just afraid of getting my hopes up too high before tomorrows match. :lol: I don't want to be disapointed. Got to bring myself down on this high.

Ana doesn't think she can win.. so she probably won't.

As for Vika.. I think she is fine.

jelenacg
May 3rd, 2010, 08:28 PM
She won ,without facing break points :speakles:
How bad was Vesnina really? :lol:


Ana had some nice serves though. I liked that.. only 2 bad tosses in the whole match, which looks good to me!


Hey Izzy
That`s good to hear :)How many DFs? Do i dare to hope that they finally found a way to control more her ball toss...i know it`s all in her head
About tomorrow, i`m just hopping her head is in that match and she shows some fighting spirit

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 08:34 PM
She won ,without facing break points :speakles:
How bad was Vesnina really? :lol:

Hey Jelena!

Vesnina was.. like.. a dream opponent.. so awful.. :lol:

Hey Izzy
That`s good to hear :)How many DFs? Do i dare to hope that they finally found a way to control more her ball toss...i know it`s all in her head
About tomorrow,i`m just hopping her head is in that match and she shows some fighting spirit

Only 1 double fault to 3 aces. Vesnina helped with some awful returns.. but Ana was serving decently.

I would like her to show some faith in tomorrows match.. fight hard.. I thought she didn't think she could win judging by her post match interview.

jelenacg
May 3rd, 2010, 08:43 PM
Hey Jelena!
Vesnina was.. like.. a dream opponent.. so awful.. :lol:

Only 1 double fault to 3 aces. Vesnina helped with some awful returns.. but Ana was serving decently.

I would like her to show some faith in tomorrows match.. fight hard.. I thought she didn't think she could win judging by her post match interview.

Meh, Ana`s interviews :lol: She can say whatever she wants as long as she shows up tomorrow and fights
It would be nice for a change :angel:

Dream opponent :lol: How was her FH?
Did they show Heinz and that useless fitness coach ? :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 09:01 PM
Meh, Ana`s interviews :lol: She can say whatever she wants as long as she shows up tomorrow and fights
It would be nice for a change :angel:

Dream opponent :lol: How was her FH?
Did they show Heinz and that useless fitness coach ? :rolleyes:

Yes.. Ana's interviews.. :rolleyes::spit:

Hopefully she fights hard!

Her forehand looked okay.. had some nice winners. But she didn't use it that much I think.. wasn't needed.. Vesnina would make an error first. :lol: She did finish the match vintage style, with a ROS forehand winner.

I didn't see any of the coaches.. but my internet is sucking, so maybe they did show them at some point.. :shrug:

DownTheLine21
May 3rd, 2010, 09:10 PM
This is the first full match I've seen Ana play since AO. She's definitely improving, but I'm not convinced about any so-called "turnaround" yet. I still believe in Ana's talent, but I just won't get my hopes up again. It's been the busiest semester ever, so I haven't been able to stop in as much as I would like, but I do miss all of you in here. I'm going to try to come in more often since Ana is finally playing again.

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 09:17 PM
This is the first full match I've seen Ana play since AO. She's definitely improving, but I'm not convinced about any so-called "turnaround" yet. I still believe in Ana's talent, but I just won't get my hopes up again. It's been the busiest semester ever, so I haven't been able to stop in as much as I would like, but I do miss all of you in here. I'm going to try to come in more often since Ana is finally playing again.

Hey DTL!

I'm far from convinced too! :tape:

Missed you! :D

DownTheLine21
May 3rd, 2010, 09:19 PM
Hey DTL!

I'm far from convinced too! :tape:

Missed you! :D

Yeah. I was thinking about everyone during the match today. It motivated me to stop in. My avatar/signature photos seem like an eternity ago.

jelenacg
May 3rd, 2010, 09:21 PM
This is the first full match I've seen Ana play since AO. She's definitely improving, but I'm not convinced about any so-called "turnaround" yet. I still believe in Ana's talent, but I just won't get my hopes up again. It's been the busiest semester ever, so I haven't been able to stop in as much as I would like, but I do miss all of you in here. I'm going to try to come in more often since Ana is finally playing again.

Hey we missed you :)
We are also far from convinced :tape:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 3rd, 2010, 09:27 PM
Maybe it's not convincing, but hopefully we've seen the bottom now. That it won't go worse then the last 2 years.
And don't say it couldn't go worse then that cause it's still no Nicole level (although it was not much better also)

jelenacg
May 3rd, 2010, 09:30 PM
Btw who won Rome last year ? Safina?
Sveta and Vera both lost.Vera was bageled :lol:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 09:37 PM
Btw who won Rome last year ? Safina?
Sveta and Vera both lost.Vera was bageled :lol:

It was Safina. Remember Serena saying Safina had won Rome and Madrid? :spit:

Kuzzy was a finalist.. lots of points lost.

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 09:38 PM
Yeah. I was thinking about everyone during the match today. It motivated me to stop in. My avatar/signature photos seem like an eternity ago.

They seem like another life.. :sobbing:

Davodus
May 3rd, 2010, 09:46 PM
:cool: easy win. Doesn't even look like she was taken to deuce on her serve? Definitely a positive, I'm satisified with that. The real test starts now with Azarenka.

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 09:49 PM
:cool: easy win. Doesn't even look like she was taken to deuce on her serve? Definitely a positive, I'm satisified with that. The real test starts now with Azarenka.

Not even deuce. Lot's of 40-30 holds though.

Vesnina was truly awful.

Azarenka will be a whole different story..

bruce goose
May 3rd, 2010, 09:52 PM
:D:D:D I had to go to class RIGHT as her match was starting,so I missed this piece of excellent news....It doesn't matter to me that Vesnina played like crap b/c rock-bottom Ana STILL would've found a way to lose.Also,I'll call this BETTER than the Stosur win for a couple key reasons: (1).Ana was still totally deluding herself back then.(2).it was a fluke victory,and Sam would've annihilated Ana on any other surface.(3)Although she was emotionally lifted by the crowd support with her wins,it was a shallow,artificial lift...as we saw by how easily she quit on 2009 following the loss to Venus...using the 'injury' as an excuse for the loss when it had NOTHINg to do with the outcome...aye DO believe that she may've had one of her panic attacks that prompted her to default when she could've kept playing.She appears at least somewhat more motivated now...despite her less-than-busy schedule(4)Ana FINALLY has the right guidance in Heinz,so she can properly build upon this victory--with his help--if she puts it in the correct perspective.

This win doesn't make Ana's psychological issues disappear;left untreated,they'll just return in force someday whenever the conditions are in place.However,we know that she needs some wins to develop even more trust in Heinz as a coach....Once she's 100% sure that he can put her on the winning track,THEN she'll be more open to him when he suggests that taboo subject of counselling for Ana...assuming that he hasn't already...which he might've.........I don't hate Vika like many other posters here,but I'll go :crazy::banana: if Ana beats her tomorrow

jelenacg
May 3rd, 2010, 09:53 PM
It was Safina. Remember Serena saying Safina had won Rome and Madrid? :spit:

Kuzzy was a finalist.. lots of points lost.

How could i forget about that :o Yeah Rome and Madrid :lol::lol:
How was Safina playing in Stuttgart,is everything all right with her injury

DownTheLine21
May 3rd, 2010, 10:05 PM
I approach the Azarenka match with extreme caution. I don't think Ana has anywhere near enough belief in herself yet, but I hope she can keep it competitive. Even if she loses, I will be happy with 6-4 or 7-5 sets.

Pops Maellard
May 3rd, 2010, 10:12 PM
I won't expect anything against Vika. But yeah, I hope she can make it a good-ish match.

spiritedenergy
May 3rd, 2010, 10:15 PM
GUYS SHE WON!!!!! FU*K YES!!!! I told you she was improving a lot, why wouldn't you believe me:D

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 10:17 PM
GUYS SHE WON!!!!! FU*K YES!!!! I told you she was improving a lot, why wouldn't you believe me:D

I wish all the opponents were Vesnina like! Everyone improves with such awful opponent! :lol::spit:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 10:21 PM
How could i forget about that :o Yeah Rome and Madrid :lol::lol:
How was Safina playing in Stuttgart,is everything all right with her injury

Safina was very rusty.. but the fight and desire were there.

spiritedenergy
May 3rd, 2010, 10:21 PM
I wish all the opponents were Vesnina like! Everyone improves with such awful opponent! :lol::spit:

no no no she had already improved serve and FH against Radwanska, that's all she needs for now, serve and FH = bread and butter, BH can stay club level for now:p

I hope she'll have some fire tomorrow that the pressure is on that *%4#+ Azarenka, hope she remembers last year RG:o at least make a point to make it more competitive than last year at RG Ana:kiss:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 10:22 PM
I approach the Azarenka match with extreme caution. I don't think Ana has anywhere near enough belief in herself yet, but I hope she can keep it competitive. Even if she loses, I will be happy with 6-4 or 7-5 sets.

Agreed.. she would have to hold on to a lot of rallies against Vika, and I don't think she has either the speed or the consistency of shot to do so, unfortunately.

I hope she fights really hard though.

Pops Maellard
May 3rd, 2010, 10:22 PM
no no no she had already improved serve and FH against Radwanska, that's all she needs for now, serve and FH = bread and butter, BH can stay club level for now:p

I hope she'll have some fire tomorrow that the pressure is on that *%4#+ Azarenka, hope she remembers last year RG:o at least make a point to make it more competitive than last year at RG Ana:kiss:
Ugh :o. Ana stormed through her first three rounds at RG last year, and then she was the heavy favourite to beat Azarenka in R4. :bigcry:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 10:25 PM
no no no she had already improved serve and FH against Radwanska, that's all she needs for now, serve and FH = bread and butter, BH can stay club level for now:p

I hope she'll have some fire tomorrow that the pressure is on that *%4#+ Azarenka, hope she remembers last year RG:o at least make a point to make it more competitive than last year at RG Ana:kiss:

I saw her with a total lack of faith.. saying she hoped to be able to take confidence from this match, but all she wanted tomorrow was to enjoy, have fun on court. :rolleyes:

And about the BH.. if it can't stand rallies, it gets hard. Everyone picks on Ana's BH. Vesnina was just making waaay too many UEs.

I hope Ana slices and moonballs a lot from the BH side against Vika. Vika hates those balls, and it would avoid shanks.

Cp6uja
May 3rd, 2010, 10:25 PM
I watching just last 5 games at some internet cafe and which is worst match at "Belgrade Open" (ATP) which forced me to miss this is so bored :yawn: (and only bored tennis matches which I prefer to watch is when Ana involved and dominate :drool:... like this one against Vesnina).

Like I say after draw into w.w.w. GM poll thread - Ana at her worst is still TOP30 player at clay and Vesnina at her best is still out of TOP50, so 6-1 6-3 is not that surprise scoreline like it seems.

BTW why in thread title CLAY is still noted like Ana current enemy :confused: Clay is her best friend :scratch:
At least we finish with that "Sucky Server" definition... I not watched Ana in 1st set, but her serve stats seems Roddick-Like :yeah:

Ivanovic will play tomorrow night match again, but against Azarenka is really hard to give some serious prediction because nobody really knows how Ana really improve in past couple weeks, and also how Azarenka recovered from her injury problems (Vesnina and Karantantcheva is simple not good enough "sparing partners" for serious conclusions).

Win is a win, but win vs TOP10 will be real deal :rocker2:

gaviotabr
May 3rd, 2010, 10:27 PM
Ugh :o. Ana stormed through her first three rounds at RG last year, and then she was the heavy favourite to beat Azarenka in R4. :bigcry:

And then she had one of those panic attacks/dizzy spells.. :o

-NAJ-
May 3rd, 2010, 10:32 PM
This is a great opportunity for Ana. It's time to show herself and other that she is on right way. Good luck

Pops Maellard
May 3rd, 2010, 10:38 PM
If Ana beats Azarenka, she'll probably run into Lena D.

So either way it's been good, even if she loses to Vika, I guess.

bruce goose
May 3rd, 2010, 10:53 PM
One thing you guys haven't mentioned yet:Service Return.Vika's feeble,non-threatening serve couldn't even do much damage on GRASS,let alone clay.It's possible that Ana could smack some winners off Vika's even-weaker-than-normal second serve...and she might even have the confidence to step in on some first serves,too....I hope she does.

Another point:I don't believe that false hype does much to build a player's confidence...almost never,really...and I don't think that Heinz plays along at all when/if Ana claims that she's hitting the ball better than ever...though I'll bet he has a tactful way of telling her that such claims are B.S.:lol:.Maybe Ana only feeds that garbage to the media,but it wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if Sven played along with it:rolleyes:.I'm sure that Heinz focuses on building LEGIT confidence in Ana instead of trying to use absurd false hype to artificially raise self-esteem

The 2nd Law
May 3rd, 2010, 11:24 PM
I see this Azarenka match as exactly the same as the Aga match, only I have a higher opinion of Vika :lol: :o

I just hope that Ana is truly confident within her self, attacks Vika's serve like Bruce said, and continues to show improvement with the FH and serve, and shows mental compusure. There, I've made a little checklist. :p

It was however, very nice to wake up to thread titles reading: Ivanovic def. ________ 61 63 for a change :D I will be in a good mood all day now :lol:

Curtos07
May 4th, 2010, 12:16 AM
I love the new title of this thread. :lol:
The Dirrty Season begins: Baby E draws even! Cassius Clay 1 - Anapolis 1!
Love the FD nickname for Ana. :hearts: So cute.

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 12:58 AM
Frankly,I don't understand the new nickname...but I don't care as long as she continues winning:cool:

Loungy
May 4th, 2010, 01:13 AM
Did it rain before Ana's match today? When it's dry, it's faster than it was in previous years. Gulbis was serving up a storm. Doesn't suit Ana much, but it suits Vika.

Curtos07
May 4th, 2010, 01:20 AM
Frankly,I don't understand the new nickname...but I don't care as long as she continues winning:cool:

This FD post explains it. Best tennis blog on the web.
http://cowbell.typepad.com/forty_deuce/2008/07/baby-elephant-s.html

Marilyn Monheaux
May 4th, 2010, 01:29 AM
BTW why in thread title CLAY is still noted like Ana current enemy :confused: Clay is her best friend :scratch:
At least we finish with that "Sucky Server" definition... I not watched Ana in 1st set, but her serve stats seems Roddick-Like :yeah:


Well, Clay isn't her best friend - more a part of her. And currently, she not just has to face an opponent on the other side of the net, but also on her very own side. Between her ears. In this sense she's constantly fighting herself. Her own biggest enemy. Hence the "Cassius Clay" aka. "Muhammed Ali" aka. "The Greatest" reference. ;)
Plus, I just thought it would be funny.:p

I love the new title of this thread. :lol:

Love the FD nickname for Ana. :hearts: So cute.

Thank you.:)

This FD post explains it. Best tennis blog on the web.
http://cowbell.typepad.com/forty_deuce/2008/07/baby-elephant-s.html

Agreed!:worship:

Frankly,I don't understand the new nickname...but I don't care as long as she continues winning:cool:

I hope Curtis could help you out.:D Forty Deuce is one of the best tennis blogs out there!:yeah:

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 01:44 AM
I hope Curtis could help you out.:D Forty Deuce is one of the best tennis blogs out there!:yeah:Honestly,I forgot that FD was an abbreviation for 'Forty Deuce'...thanks to both you and Curtis for the courtesy of explaining that again:hatoff:....Yeah,I guess Ana DOES deserve an adorable nickname:lol:

hellas719
May 4th, 2010, 02:28 AM
Ana :worship:

HowardH
May 4th, 2010, 03:15 AM
Proper test coming up now. Elena V has not been that good recently, and it's not clear that her thigh has been at 100%. It is also not clear whether Vika is at 100%, but I suspect she is in much better shape than Elena V was. If I'm optimistic, perhaps Ana has a 50-50 shot. Much depends on what kind of impact Ana can have with her serve and return. Lapushchenkova ripped Vika's serve to shreds, but she is incredibly aggressive on return. Ana must also be aggressive.

doni1212
May 4th, 2010, 03:18 AM
Many people now,including a few with medical backgrounds,believe that she's suffering from panic attacks sometimes on court....On the bright side,Ana isn't in last place in the Ana/Anne/Anna race for 2010(amongst Top 200 players);that distinction belongs to Italy's Anna Floris,who has only 2 WTA wins this year...both of them in AO Qualies

Thanks!

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 03:23 AM
Thanks!Even though you're a Steelers' fan,your loyal Ana fanship earned you an explanation;):hatoff:

doni1212
May 4th, 2010, 04:29 AM
Even though you're a Steelers' fan,your loyal Ana fanship earned you an explanation;):hatoff:

:rolls:

Davodus
May 4th, 2010, 07:48 AM
Does the court she is on have streams?

Marilyn Monheaux
May 4th, 2010, 08:32 AM
^^Not 100% sure, but I think there is also a stream for PIETRANGELI.:)

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Did it rain before Ana's match today? When it's dry, it's faster than it was in previous years. Gulbis was serving up a storm. Doesn't suit Ana much, but it suits Vika.

No.. it didn't rain yesterday. Actually, the court seemed very very dry. It did rain this morning though.

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 02:39 PM
Proper test coming up now. Elena V has not been that good recently, and it's not clear that her thigh has been at 100%. It is also not clear whether Vika is at 100%, but I suspect she is in much better shape than Elena V was. If I'm optimistic, perhaps Ana has a 50-50 shot. Much depends on what kind of impact Ana can have with her serve and return. Lapushchenkova ripped Vika's serve to shreds, but she is incredibly aggressive on return. Ana must also be aggressive.

Elena Vesnina was awful.. she helped Ana a lot by not returning many serves. I'm sure Vika will get a lot more balls on court out of the return of serve. And that usually puts pressure on Ana.

As for Ana's ROS, it was not that good. Sure, she had some return winners, but whenever Lena V hit the serve to Ana's BH it was either a weak slice or a shank. So if Vika picks on that, it can get tough.

I hope Ana uses variations of speed and high balls with her BH, because that bothers Vika to no end. And attacks with her forehand at any opportunity, obviously. And fights hard, because she will need to.

I don't have much hope, as I think Ana is too slow right now to keep up with rallies, but I REALLY hope she can pull out a surprise.

Davodus
May 4th, 2010, 03:03 PM
Moonballs and slices with her backhand to Vika really would annoy her so much, she has a lot of trouble dealing with deep high balls especially to her forehand. Particularly with the way she hits her forehand, it makes it harder for her to generate pace from high up, behind the baseline. The only danger with that tactic is letting them drop too short and then they get put away. Also, whether Ana will be able to think clearly enough for the whole match to stick with the right tactics. I don't think she will win, but I really really hope she does :lol: Even if I think I will fall asleep before it starts, thanks to the super long fast match.

InsideOut.
May 4th, 2010, 04:32 PM
Lucie is destroying Flavia, so Ana's match should be on soon. :unsure:

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 05:21 PM
^^Not 100% sure, but I think there is also a stream for PIETRANGELI.:)I'd sure appreciate it if you could tell me where that stream WAS:angel:....Even though I'm not a Freemason,I'd still like to see Ana's match:)

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 05:31 PM
Since I don't have the Secret Passcode,all the masons here at Ana's forum are ignoring my requests to locate the livestream.......So i'll add that Caro continues to do lots of promos for Rolex.B/c that's a cursed company that's owned by satanic worshippers,all the Caro-haters should be encouraged by her involvement with them:eek:

дalex
May 4th, 2010, 05:37 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/livescorehunter1

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 05:43 PM
Ahhhh...scoreboard watching...no surprise that Ana dropped the first game...slow starts aren't unusual even for SOLID players....1-2 for now......Wanna add to the previous post:A lovely gal bought me a men's designer watch as a gift,but I valued it even more b/c of who the giver was.However,if anyone ever bought me a Rolex as a gift,then I'd make up some tactful excuse....I'd say that I could never wear Rolex b/c they exploit child slave labor...which they probably DO when you consider the slimy sh-tbags who attend some of their promo events(not YOU,sweet Caro:angel:).I'd thank the gift-giver and ,to spare his/her feelings,tell him/her that I'd trade in the Rolex for a watch of another brand

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 05:44 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/livescorehunter1Thanks:hatoff:

Marilyn Monheaux
May 4th, 2010, 07:03 PM
Can't believe it!:hysteric:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 4th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Although Azarenka wasn't 100%, it's still a nice win for her.
Finally another top 10 win (since Linz 2008).

Now Lena :lol:

Ksenia.
May 4th, 2010, 07:07 PM
Whoa :sobbing:
I am a fan of both Ana and Vika but I was soooo rooting for Ana tonight, she needed this win :sobbing:
Amaze :hearts:

Curtos07
May 4th, 2010, 07:07 PM
First top 10 win in ages. Not her best tennis, but who cares. I am celebrating! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

InsideOut.
May 4th, 2010, 07:08 PM
:bounce: What a win! :)

Jang87
May 4th, 2010, 07:09 PM
She won, doesn't matter how! Such a confidence boost!

doni1212
May 4th, 2010, 07:09 PM
This is amazing!! I'm so happy you guys! :hug: all around!

soul
May 4th, 2010, 07:12 PM
It was a rıcial match for Ana.A win is a win; no mater how she played.Well Done

The Daviator
May 4th, 2010, 07:12 PM
:banana:

spiritedenergy
May 4th, 2010, 07:17 PM
omg GUYS WHAT HAPPENED i can't believe it:hysteric:

Jang87
May 4th, 2010, 07:18 PM
This is a type of match Ana would have lost a few months ago. She is improving, not there quite yet, but she is definitely improving :D. Thank you Heinz!

Isha312
May 4th, 2010, 07:21 PM
YAY! Tennis is fun again! :bounce:

spiritedenergy
May 4th, 2010, 07:24 PM
are there any highlights??? i want to see:bigcry:

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 07:27 PM
I'm so happy right now! :sobbing:

I had to look at the scoreboard 3 times to believe it!

First top 10 win in ages!

Jang87
May 4th, 2010, 07:29 PM
She defended her points. Thank god :)

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 07:29 PM
Night match against Dementieva tomorrow!

Non prima 8:30 PM
[6] E Dementieva (RUS) vs A Ivanovic (SRB)

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 07:31 PM
She defended her points. Thank god :)

Yes! She defended her points! At least she stopped the slide in the rankings for now..

Jang87
May 4th, 2010, 07:31 PM
Night sessions are bringing her luck! :D

spiritedenergy
May 4th, 2010, 07:31 PM
Night match against Dementieva tomorrow!

wow, another nemesis, Ana has nothing to lose, I hope she'll fight till the bitter end :D

mure
May 4th, 2010, 07:34 PM
I thought she would lose after the first 2 games,she started so nervously,her first toss was way off,she complained after the first dubious call,terrible body language all around.Then she realised that Azarenka wasn't anythin special and raised her level.As i wrote on Gm after the time out i thought Azarenka played much better,cut down the errors and was hittin deep leavin Ana defending behind the baseline.Then the geniuses of Italian tv switched to Camerin-Wozniacki..i'd like to believe that Ana raised her level again and started blasting winners left and right ..
I'm no tennis expert but i thought her backhand was way better today than a week before,there weren't many puffballs..she hit plenty of them actually hard even though always cross court..

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 07:36 PM
Okay so.. the match..

I saw it until they changed to Caro, obviously.. but I thought even though Vika was injured, Ana was being able to hang in rallies, which is a positive. Her BH is still shaky, and her FH was erractic in patches.. she was still slow.. but she remained calm and had some nice serves. She had twice as many bad tosses then yesterday, thus commiting more DFs.. but she also had some good serves. Heinz has definitely helped Ana with the serve. It was definitely still far from what Ana once was.. but a step foward nonetheless.

I hope she takes a huge confidence boost out of this, and fights hard against Dementieva tomorrow. IMHO Dementieva is like Azarenka, they have similar games.. but Lena D won't be hampered like Vika was today.. so it will be a lot tougher. Apart from Ana having that dreadful h2h with her. I want to see her fighting hard and improving from today. Whatever will be will be.. at least she defended her points!

jelenacg
May 4th, 2010, 07:38 PM
She won :sobbing::sobbing::speakles:
I couldn`t watch it:sobbing: ,I have guests at my house...stupid guests :rolleyes: :fiery:
Talk to you later guys
I can`t believe she won :bounce::bounce: I had to check it twice :lol:

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 07:43 PM
I thought she would lose after the first 2 games,she started so nervously,her first toss was way off,she complained after the first dubious call,terrible body language all around.Then she realised that Azarenka wasn't anythin special and raised her level.As i wrote on Gm after the time out i thought Azarenka played much better,cut down the errors and was hittin deep leavin Ana defending behind the baseline.Then the geniuses of Italian tv switched to Camerin-Wozniacki..i'd like to believe that Ana raised her level again and started blasting winners left and right ..
I'm no tennis expert but i thought her backhand was way better today than a week before,there weren't many puffballs..she hit plenty of them actually hard even though always cross court..

I actually agree with your view on the match. I thought the BH was holding better today then against ARad. And that after the time out Vika played better.

Maybe Heinz saw that Ana's BH was a bit of a mess and worked on it. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 07:45 PM
She won :sobbing::sobbing::speakles:
I couldn`t watch it:sobbing: ,I have guests at my house...stupid guests :rolleyes: :fiery:
Talk to you later guys
I can`t believe she won :bounce::bounce: I had to check it twice :lol:

Hey Jelena!

I also couldn't believe it! :sobbing: So great.. I hope she keeps focused though, she needs to get her head in tomorrow's match!

spiritedenergy
May 4th, 2010, 07:45 PM
serve stats look good... she also won many more points than azarenka. i really would like to see highlights, there are no highlighst of vesnina-ana either:o

gloria7
May 4th, 2010, 07:52 PM
I love those moments.I love you,Ana...and your pearl earrings...and Hainz...and all of you shiny,happy people...and my mom...oh,wait...

Curtos07
May 4th, 2010, 07:58 PM
Just put up a good fight against Elena tomorrow and I'm happy. Now please don't wake me up from this dream. :angel:

Jang87
May 4th, 2010, 08:04 PM
She has to cut back on the UE, play a little more agressive, hit a little harder and FIGHT in order to win. She is still slow, but as long as Ana stays calm and focused and she keeps her concentration on the task at hand, she can do it.

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 08:05 PM
Just put up a good fight against Elena tomorrow and I'm happy. Now please don't wake me up from this dream. :angel:

I don't want to wake up either Curtis! :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Truth is.. we shouldn't get our hopes up.. today was great feeling and all.. but Ana was never able to beat Dementieva.. not even in her good old days. :sobbing:

-NAJ-
May 4th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Huge win for Ana. But we want more. I belive that she can beat Elena, ajde Ana. Don't stop here.

Adrian1092
May 4th, 2010, 08:12 PM
One thing... do you guys think Ana's groundstrokes have lost a considerable amount of power? Her FH doesnt seem as explosive? Who knows, her new style could help her vs Dementieva :lol:

Jang87
May 4th, 2010, 08:17 PM
One thing... do you guys think Ana's groundstrokes have lost a considerable amount of power? Her FH doesnt seem as explosive? Who knows, her new style could help her vs Dementieva :lol:

Yeah, they have. But I guess its just a part of the process? Maybe she will start using more power when she finds some form again and her game returns. She probably doesn't want to overdue the powerhitting, she'll just end up making an UE. Hopefully she'll start blasting winners from all over the court soon :D :bounce:

mure
May 4th, 2010, 08:20 PM
I don't think she's lost her power,in the last matches she hit quite a few shots that would make Barry Bonds jealous,she just have to aim better..

gaviotabr
May 4th, 2010, 08:21 PM
One thing... do you guys think Ana's groundstrokes have lost a considerable amount of power? Her FH doesnt seem as explosive? Who knows, her new style could help her vs Dementieva :lol:

Yes.. she has lost power from all of her shots. The FH is the most obvious example, because it was her best shot. I hope she manages to get it back sometime..

DownTheLine21
May 4th, 2010, 08:23 PM
OMG! I can't believe it. I haven't seen the match yet. For all I know, Azarenka may have been playing poor, but I am surprised nonetheless. Ana needed this win. I almost cried when I saw the scoreline. LOL.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 4th, 2010, 08:40 PM
Truth is.. we shouldn't get our hopes up.. today was great feeling and all.. but Ana was never able to beat Dementieva.. not even in her good old days. :sobbing:

But most of the times she was close. Break and set up in IW. A break up in the last set in Dubai. And the loss in Rosmalen was also a match of many wasted chances.

krystian
May 4th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Ladies n Gentlemen, I'm so happy Ana did it today!!!! It looks to me that her current coach really gets her back on track and it makes me so glad!!!!! :bounce::bounce: And as far as I know, tomorrow's match will be showing by Eurosport :)

Ana :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

:worship:

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 09:19 PM
Folks,I get premonitions sometimes...most of them negative...for example,I had one about Chris Farley right before he died.On rare occasions,I even get visions--specific,detailed ones--in my dreams.......but,for the first time since 2008,I had a GOOD premonition about Ana.When she tied it at 4-4 in the 1st and Vika took a med timeout,that was a classic Ana-killer right there...yet she held her composure and closed out the set fairly easily.THAT'S when I knew that Ana was on the right track...and that she would win this match.Even when she was down 0-2 when I left for class,I said to myself,"She's gonna win:D"

The Stosur win at Wimby was nothing...just a lucky fluke(I could see the Venus Storm on the horizon);Ana was letting her emotions get caught up by the fan support,but her confidence was never rooted deeply...and that was proven by the aftermath.Ana finally has someone who can help lay the foundation for TRUE poise and confidence...something that won't depend on Ana's mood or base emotions...something that can take her to legit champion status like Heinz's famous former client.

I don't believe in idol worship,really,but....HEINZ:worship::worship::wors hip:.To you Anapolis residents,if that no-talent Aussie pile of goat manure ever does anything to disrupt one of Heinz's practice sessions with Ana...or pisses him off in ANY way....Then let ME know about it,and I'll "relocate" that worthless,slimy parasite so that he can get re-acquainted with his grub worm cousins a few feet beneath the surface

Ana might still need a while to polish her rough edges,but I'm SURE now that she's on the correct path:D....You'll forgive me if I can't root against Elena:angel:,who epitomizes the word 'class'...can't root against Ana,either,though...so I'll just sit back and await the result.If it's any consolation to Ana fans,Olympic(Slam)Queen Elena is half-ready to call it quits and have at least one child,IMO.I think she'll retire at year's end if Maxim proposes to her...so maybe Ana has a decent shot if she keeps the UEs and DFs low...just a thought

Davodus
May 4th, 2010, 09:19 PM
ahh I'm so happy about this :yeah: but I fell asleep in the middle of the second set :(

azdaja
May 4th, 2010, 09:43 PM
wow, a really big win for ana. i really would love to see her return to the top again. i really can't stand women's tennis when she is still active and slumping...

The 2nd Law
May 4th, 2010, 10:27 PM
OMFG :D BEST NEWS TO WAKE UP TOO. I don't even care how she played or how Vika played, I'll worry about that later. Gonna be late to uni :lol: SO HAPPY :D WELL DONE ANA!!!

Marilyn Monheaux
May 4th, 2010, 10:31 PM
Folks,I get premonitions sometimes...most of them negative...for example,I had one about Chris Farley right before he died.On rare occasions,I even get visions--specific,detailed ones--in my dreams.......but,for the first time since 2008,I had a GOOD premonition about Ana.When she tied it at 4-4 in the 1st and Vika took a med timeout,that was a classic Ana-killer right there...yet she held her composure and closed out the set fairly easily.THAT'S when I knew that Ana was on the right track...and that she would win this match.Even when she was down 0-2 when I left for class,I said to myself,"She's gonna win:D"

The Stosur win at Wimby was nothing...just a lucky fluke(I could see the Venus Storm on the horizon);Ana was letting her emotions get caught up by the fan support,but her confidence was never rooted deeply...and that was proven by the aftermath.Ana finally has someone who can help lay the foundation for TRUE poise and confidence...something that won't depend on Ana's mood or base emotions...something that can take her to legit champion status like Heinz's famous former client.

I don't believe in idol worship,really,but....HEINZ:worship::worship::wors hip:.To you Anapolis residents,if that no-talent Aussie pile of goat manure ever does anything to disrupt one of Heinz's practice sessions with Ana...or pisses him off in ANY way....Then let ME know about it,and I'll "relocate" that worthless,slimy parasite so that he can get re-acquainted with his grub worm cousins a few feet beneath the surface

Ana might still need a while to polish her rough edges,but I'm SURE now that she's on the correct path:D....You'll forgive me if I can't root against Elena:angel:,who epitomizes the word 'class'...can't root against Ana,either,though...so I'll just sit back and await the result.If it's any consolation to Ana fans,Olympic(Slam)Queen Elena is half-ready to call it quits and have at least one child,IMO.I think she'll retire at year's end if Maxim proposes to her...so maybe Ana has a decent shot if she keeps the UEs and DFs low...just a thought

You remind me so much of nelsondan, it's unreal.:lol:

Pops Maellard
May 4th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Oh my God, just oh my God...wow! :eek:

Steff_forever
May 4th, 2010, 11:01 PM
as a huge Elena fan my heart should go with her tmororrow. But Ana needs victories like today's one so much more to get her confidence back (completely). So for tomorrow I hope she can prevail. Good luck. And use yr fist pumps not so often pls, it appears ridiculous if it's on every little highlight. Wanna see it after the last pt ;)

Maybe Lena wins RG one day as compensation.

bruce goose
May 4th, 2010, 11:09 PM
You remind me so much of nelsondan, it's unreal.:lol:Don't know who that is,Maja,but I hope that he's an Ana fan:)

Marilyn Monheaux
May 4th, 2010, 11:21 PM
Don't know who that is,Maja,but I hope that he's an Ana fan:)

Not sure. He's a Maria fan. Don't know if he posts outside of The Siberian Siren, but the stuff he posts sometimes is madd wickedd!:lol:

jelenacg
May 4th, 2010, 11:23 PM
I`m so happy she won :hearts:
No matter how she played or how Vika played i think this will be good for her confidence .Maybe it will give her more motivation to try harder :angel:
Aga also wasnt` playing well but Ana lost even if she could have won ,no to mention that match against injured Bondarenko ,so i just hope this win gives her more motivation and some confidence

Maybe this Heinz guy is doing something right ;)...please don`t fire him after clay season :angel:

DOUBLEFIST
May 4th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Congrats to you Ana die-hards. :yeah:

Seems she could be on her way back.

...Hell, she IS on her way back!

AstuteLearner8
May 5th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Wow that's a really nice scoreline :bounce: I'm definitely dying to see her vs Dementieva play tomorrow!

bruce goose
May 5th, 2010, 12:08 AM
Not sure. He's a Maria fan. Don't know if he posts outside of The Siberian Siren, but the stuff he posts sometimes is madd wickedd!:lol:Fortunately,I falsely interpreted Izzy's post a little while back.Normally,she reads Ana so well,and she claimed that Ana looked disinterested,unmotivated in practicing.I said to myself,"How in the f--k could she be unmotivated NOW?" I figured that she had arrived in Vaidisovatown...now,in hindsight,we can surmise that Ana may've had a headache or some other small,nagging illness that day.There's no way that Ana could have done what she did--from the low level where she WAS--if she weren't at least partially motivated and working on things with Heinz.At some point,he may have even challenged her: "Do you REALLY care about tennis anymore?Don't b.s. me"

Unless some calamitous injury--a REAL one--saps her confidence,Ana is gonna trust Heinz now that she's getting better results:),and we'll eventually see improvements in all aspects of her game...........yes,even the backhand:p

Cp6uja
May 5th, 2010, 12:16 AM
I'm probably less shocked and surprised with this result than anybody here :p, but to be honest I must to confess that I really didn't expect that Ana first "big win" will looks like this where she won both sets 6-4 after failing 2-4 :eek::eek::eek: Especially if we know that in all matches in near past when Ana finally shows some signs of improvement (against Kim that 6-7 EXO set-match, or against 2xRadwanska 5-7 5-7 6-7 4-6) she actually always blew it in finish of all this sets. Talking about good signs of improvements I was shocked after 4 opening games at 1-3 when Ana 1st serve in was 22% and Vika 100% :tape: so I was asking myself where all that signs are disappear. It seems in that moment that this will be copycat of theirs RG/09 match when Ana and Vika TOGETHER trashed Ivanovic, but thanks God this match very soon going in totally opposite direction.

Dementieva is worst possible opponent at the moment for Ana but if she survive tomorrow Ivanovic will become serious Rome title contender! If she lose, but with good fight, we have reasons to believe that in Madrid she will looks even better. But let's see tomorrows match. Ana playing once again night match (Centre Court) which obviously suits to her. For Ana's love :kiss: I will watch her match on TV instead to visit tomorrow's Troicki/Serra Belgrade Open night match in vivo. Please Ana don't disappoint me :D

doni1212
May 5th, 2010, 12:31 AM
I'm really happy to seem the passion and joy on her face again. That was a pleasure to watch!

Davodus
May 5th, 2010, 01:36 AM
I think Ana winning this match knocks Azarenka out of the top 10 :lol:

doni1212
May 5th, 2010, 02:09 AM
Yeah, it does...

hellas719
May 5th, 2010, 03:49 AM
Ana :cheer:

The 2nd Law
May 5th, 2010, 06:52 AM
How good is this feeling guys!? :D

Just wanted to point out something ironic which no one has picked up on: last year at RG Vika kicked Ana out of the top ten, and almost a year later, Ana has returned the favour :p As a Vika fan though, I do hope she recovers soon.

Anyways, just like yesterday it's important that we don't get our hopes up too much. I really wish this was a day match though, the nigth matches just work out to be too late to watch for me :( I'll try and get up for this one though.

Davodus
May 5th, 2010, 07:53 AM
I can't get up for it because I have a test tomorrow :sad: bugger. I'm still shocked she beat Azarenka from a break down both sets, injured or not. I think Heinz is having a pretty good influence on her, I hope they stay together longer.

gaviotabr
May 5th, 2010, 12:35 PM
Guys.. I know we are all excited and happy for Ana's first top 10 win in ages.. but there is another match today, and I think we should get out feet back on the ground. Beating a hobled Vika doesn't mean Ana is back or anything.. We can definitely see it as something positive, as a step foward. But Ana still has miles and miles.. and miles to go before we can say she is back. One win means nothing if she doesn't back it up.. if not here, then in the following tournaments. Ana needs to keep improving her game (which still looks fragile), her mind and she needs to perform at a consistent basis so we can actually envision her getting back to the top 10 again. So.. after one day of enjoying her win, it's time to get back to reality and to realize this is just one step that alone won't change much of anything.

As for today.. Dementieva is a bad match up for Ana, as the h2h confirms, so it will be very very tough. She is steady, brings lots of balls back, and likes high paced rallies. Ana is still slow, and Dementieva will try to get her into BH CC to BH CC rallies, which are the doom of Ana in this match up IMHO. Her BH just doesn't hold out.. against Dementieva you have to hit the BH DTL. I'm also curious to see how Ana handles all of this mentally... she was never really good in refocusing in a short period of time, and I'm sure she was over the moon yesterday with her top 10 win. I hope Heinz works on this with her and gets her to be compeletely in today's match, and fighting really hard for it.

I really have a hard time thinking Ana might lose 5 times in a row against Lena D, and I really hope Ana just comes out focused, determined and improved, and surprises everyone once again.. but reality is Lena D is probably still too strong for Ana right now. So we should just calm down and keep our hopes and expectations as low as posible.

FAMK
May 5th, 2010, 01:10 PM
I agree. By no means is Ana 'back'. She's got a long way to go before we can safely say she is. She can't be back with just random big wins here and there. It's got to be consistent.
But we all deserve to be happy she won. Even if Vika was injured, it's the fact Ana focused and didn't get ahead of herself.
I don't expect her to win against Elena, but hope we see some good signs.