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gaviotabr
May 26th, 2010, 08:01 PM
I wont be able to follow the match... one more time. Working sucks, students life is much better :(


Do you really think she has a chance tomorrow? The match vs. Chang was rather pathetic you know...

If she plays like against Chang, she will get crushed.

We are somehow hoping she had a head transplant since monday.. :help:

Jang87
May 26th, 2010, 08:05 PM
Kleybs talks about the match in her blog... thanks to bokash and google translator:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sports.ru%2Ftribuna%2Fblogs%2Fk leybanova%2F88284.html&sl=auto&tl=en

Ugh. I don't like Kleybanova at all:rolleyes:.

Orbis
May 26th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Let's hope Claybanova doesn't show up. Can't hit 12 DFs this time Ana :P

Curtos07
May 26th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Don't worry guys, Ana will play much better. She should win this. :)

Jang87
May 26th, 2010, 08:39 PM
Don't worry guys, Ana will play much better. She should win this. :)

She WILL win. Period.:bounce:

gaviotabr
May 26th, 2010, 09:00 PM
The RG web has Ana's match in the Turning Point section:

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/turning_points/201005261274890152203.html

gaviotabr
May 26th, 2010, 09:01 PM
Don't worry guys, Ana will play much better. She should win this. :)

She WILL win. Period.:bounce:

I love the optimism.. wish I could share.. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 26th, 2010, 10:19 PM
Did Ana really hit this toss? No wonder commentators here were worried she would fall on her back.. :help::tape:

YEbQU0120JI

I don't even know how she was able to reach it. :tape:

jelenacg
May 26th, 2010, 10:35 PM
I don`t need to watch that again :o:tape: Ana is an idiot,she can hurt herself like that :tape: Don`t chase damn ball in the air :fiery:
We`ll need a miracle tomorrow

gaviotabr
May 26th, 2010, 10:52 PM
We`ll need a miracle tomorrow

True.. :sobbing:

doni1212
May 26th, 2010, 11:03 PM
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJzyfR6dbT8

I'm hopeful! :yeah:

Pops Maellard
May 27th, 2010, 05:14 AM
1st on Court 1 today. :scared: Ajde. :rocker:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
May 27th, 2010, 05:18 AM
Did Ana really hit this toss? No wonder commentators here were worried she would fall on her back.. :help::tape:

YEbQU0120JI

I don't even know how she was able to reach it. :tape:

That was the gif I tried to show in the other thread. Just ridiculous.
It was her first DF.

The 2nd Law
May 27th, 2010, 05:47 AM
Oh, looks like I won't be around to watch or post for Ana's match tonight. I hope my absence brings her luck, I only got to watch one of her wins in Roma :lol: C'mon Ana, remind everybody that you are a former champion here :)

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 06:21 AM
I have tennis training when she is on! Ok, gotta get on rescheduling that in the next hour so I can be home for it :lol:

EDIT: I had success ;) so I can play and be home in time for the match.

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 08:26 AM
:scared:

Pops Maellard
May 27th, 2010, 08:34 AM
Despite the toss not fixed yet, the speed on her serve is coming back, she served a 190km/h which is very good.

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 08:35 AM
Not to mention 12 DFs :yeah:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 08:35 AM
Seriously if Ana just reverses her Aces-DFs and winners-UEs stats from last round, so that:

Aces 12 :hearts:
DFs 1 :awww:
Winners 21 :worship:
UEs 9 :eek:

She would beat Kleybs 6-2 6-2...

Pops Maellard
May 27th, 2010, 08:36 AM
Not to mention 12 DFs :yeah:
Positive, nice. :angel:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 08:46 AM
Wow that serve is a complete embarrassment :lol:
They better show Ana on eurosport! Ajdee :D

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 08:51 AM
I'm up.. 10 minutes to go..

Aissss Please Ana! :sobbing:

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 08:53 AM
I got a feeling this will be like Ana/Dulko at AO. :sobbing:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 08:54 AM
My wish for Ana - don't get bagelled.

Realistic? :unsure:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 08:59 AM
It's raining at the moment. But eurosport will show it :woohoo:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:00 AM
Oh noes.. rain.. :sobbing:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 09:02 AM
I knew I should have gone and get my haircut instead of waiting here pointlessly :rolleyes:

Dexter
May 27th, 2010, 09:04 AM
Awesome. I just had time to watch this match and then I need to leave around 3pm. :(
I struggled all night long with some gastric malfunction spending half of it in the toilet. :( Don't let me suffer more Ana. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:05 AM
I knew I should have gone and get my haircut instead of waiting here pointlessly :rolleyes:

I have a class in 4 hours that I can't miss.. I hope Ana will have won by then.. :sobbing:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 09:08 AM
I have a class in 4 hours that I can't miss.. I hope Ana will have won by then.. :sobbing:

Well there is another scenario by which you could get to class having watched the match :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:13 AM
Well there is another scenario by which you could get to class having watched the match :shrug:

I don't want that scenario.. :sobbing:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 09:14 AM
How long do you think this rain will last? :unsure: I hate this. I can't do anything without the risk of missing Ana...

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:18 AM
How long do you think this rain will last? :unsure: I hate this. I can't do anything without the risk of missing Ana...

I have no idea.. I'm sleepy and pissed off right now.. :sobbing: I hate rain delays...

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 09:19 AM
So I should work on my piece of writing right now. :) I'm writing about Dementieva :spit:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 09:23 AM
I heard action will start at 12pm, so in 30-40mins.

AstuteLearner8
May 27th, 2010, 09:26 AM
I stayed up late for nothing :( :fiery: Roland Garros needs a roof. Or some lighting.

HowardH
May 27th, 2010, 09:27 AM
I have no idea.. I'm sleepy and pissed off right now.. :sobbing: I hate rain delays...

Izzy :hug:. It's very early in Brazil right now isn't it? Hopefully Ana gets on court soon so you didn't get up early for nothing. What Adrian says sounds pretty encouraging, 30-40 minutes isn't bad :D.

doni1212
May 27th, 2010, 09:30 AM
Gosh I hate all this waiting...

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:31 AM
Izzy :hug:. It's very early in Brazil right now isn't it? Hopefully Ana gets on court soon so you didn't get up early for nothing. What Adrian says sounds pretty encouraging, 30-40 minutes isn't bad :D.

It's 6:30 now.. I'm sleepy... :sobbing:

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 09:33 AM
The rain delay really helped me because my tennis didn't get moved to earlier after all :lol: so I'm actually happy :p

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 09:33 AM
Bad news guys :sad: Nouf, who is at RG, says its heavy rain and we wont be back until 1 or 2PM :sad:

doni1212
May 27th, 2010, 09:34 AM
:speakles:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 09:35 AM
That means it could be 1hr30 or 2hrs more of waiting :(

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 09:37 AM
Fantastic. That fucks up my schedule big time :weirdo:

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 09:42 AM
ahh shit :o stuff that to hell. Go away rain.

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 09:44 AM
If I have to leave for class before the match finishes I'll be really pissed.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:44 AM
Bad news guys :sad: Nouf, who is at RG, says its heavy rain and we wont be back until 1 or 2PM :sad:

That sucks so so much for me.. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:45 AM
If I have to leave for class before the match finishes I'll be really pissed.

That's what I'm thinking.. :mad:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 09:46 AM
Everyone in GM rain delay thread is saying different things :tape: But the french posters near to RG think we'll be waiting a while :sad:

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 09:48 AM
Come on rain, help us out a little!

HowardH
May 27th, 2010, 09:51 AM
This is where it would be so good to have some kind of online alarm clock feature. Something similar to a text message. So that people who were tired could go to sleep with this device next to them, and when the match started, someone online could tell their alarm to go off then and wake them. You'd have to get someone trustworthy to be in charge of it though, but once that was done, it'd be great. Izzy could go back to sleep and we'd let her know when she needed to get up.

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 09:51 AM
Do the players have courts where they can practice right before a match when its raining like this?

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:53 AM
This is where it would be so good to have some kind of online alarm clock feature. Something similar to a text message. So that people who were tired could go to sleep with this device next to them, and when the match started, someone online could tell their alarm to go off then and wake them. You'd have to get someone trustworthy to be in charge of it though, but once that was done, it'd be great. Izzy could go back to sleep and we'd let her know when she needed to get up.

That's actually a great idea! :lol:

Andreas
May 27th, 2010, 09:53 AM
I was so excited to see Ana :( Now I'll probably miss it because I need to go around 13.45 and I'll be away for most of the day :o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:53 AM
Do the players have courts where they can practice right before a match when its raining like this?

I'm not sure how it works in these cases.. but RG does have a few covered courts.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:55 AM
I was so excited to see Ana :( Now I'll probably miss it because I need to go around 13.45 and I'll be away for most of the day :o

Yes.. when I saw the schedule I thought it was great timing.. rain blew it.. :sobbing:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 09:55 AM
I was so excited to see Ana :( Now I'll probably miss it because I need to go around 13.45 and I'll be away for most of the day :o

I'll return the favour of you updating me last time :p Hopefully they'll be on ASAP

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 09:59 AM
Some people are walking around without umbrellas, so it can't be too bad

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 10:04 AM
Looking more promising now :D I'm soooo anxious for it to start :lol:

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 10:04 AM
I overslept :o
So they didn`t even start :confused:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 10:06 AM
I overslept :o
So they didn`t even start :confused:

Hey Jelena!

It's on a rain delay...

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 10:09 AM
RG Radio just said rain has stopped :woohoo:

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 10:10 AM
I read somewhere, I think on twitter, that Kleybanova is a little injured. I don't know. Maybe that will help Ana out a bit, even though I want Ana to win because she is the better player not because her opponent is a little injured.

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 10:11 AM
Hey Jelena!

It's on a rain delay...

Stupid rain
Good that Ana is playing first bc this might be a long day at RG :o

Pops Maellard
May 27th, 2010, 10:15 AM
Even when it does come time I won't be able to watch Ana except on scores. My TV only covers Phillipe Chatrier unless it's in between matches so that means JJ will be on. :yawn:

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Can we start crying and pulling our hair out now?:lol:. It has started to rain again :rolleyes:.

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 10:21 AM
For gods sake :bigcry:

HowardH
May 27th, 2010, 10:27 AM
This is where it would be so good to have some kind of online alarm clock feature. Something similar to a text message. So that people who were tired could go to sleep with this device next to them, and when the match started, someone online could tell their alarm to go off then and wake them. You'd have to get someone trustworthy to be in charge of it though, but once that was done, it'd be great. Izzy could go back to sleep and we'd let her know when she needed to get up.

That's actually a great idea! :lol:

Just need to work out a few details and a patent will be forthcoming... ;)

I guess for now we have to just keep checking every few minutes to see what's happening, unfortunately.

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 10:29 AM
Two hours since I sat down and started waiting. :rolleyes: Ridiculous.

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 10:39 AM
I intensely despise rain delays :o

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 10:44 AM
Apparently we'll have play at 1 or 1 15 PM.... probably will start raining again though knowing today :sad:

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 10:50 AM
Its raining again :sobbing:

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 10:53 AM
They just showed courts on ES ,still raining :o

doni1212
May 27th, 2010, 10:56 AM
This is where it would be so good to have some kind of online alarm clock feature. Something similar to a text message. So that people who were tired could go to sleep with this device next to them, and when the match started, someone online could tell their alarm to go off then and wake them. You'd have to get someone trustworthy to be in charge of it though, but once that was done, it'd be great. Izzy could go back to sleep and we'd let her know when she needed to get up.

I really like that idea!!

Cp6uja
May 27th, 2010, 11:14 AM
...THINK POSITIVE...
Ana has some very good memories from tournaments with big rain problems:
- Montreal 2006 (winner)
- Berlin 2007 (winner)
- Roland Garros 2007 (finalist)
- Wimbledon 2007 (semifinalist)

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 11:20 AM
UGH! I hate all this rain..

I'm actually terrified of something.. with so much rain, the courts will be really slow and the balls really heavy. I'm afraid Ana will have trouble finishing off points and might get frustrated with it.. she doesn't have her old firepower anymore. :sobbing:

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 11:20 AM
I just read on twitter that they're saying play probably won't begin until around 3:00 PM paris time. Still almost another two full hours to go.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 11:21 AM
Ana has some very good memories from tournaments with big rain problems:
- Montreal 2006 (winner)
- Berlin 2007 (winner)
- Roland Garros 2007 (finalist)
- Wimbledon 2007 (semifinalist)

Yes.. Ana used to thrive in heavy, damp conditions.. but she is such a different player right now. She certainly plays a completely different game.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 11:22 AM
I just read on twitter that they're saying play probably won't begin until around 3:00 PM paris time. Still almost another two full hours to go.

From not missing classes, to missing both classes I had in the morning.. I can't do anything if I think Ana might be playing.. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 11:28 AM
Ana just wrote on facebook:

Ana Ivanovic Hi Everyone! Today I will be facing Alisa Kleybanova on Court 1. Wish me luck!

Good luck!

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 11:31 AM
I woke up for this 3 hours ago.. :sobbing:

I hope Ana stays strong.. rain delays can be awful for players minds.

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 11:34 AM
This is horrible :o
At least Ana will finish her match today since she is playing first
Do you think she is the one writing on facebook...that`s possible she must be bored bc of the waiting :lol:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 11:39 AM
This is horrible :o
At least Ana will finish her match today since she is playing first
Do you think she is the one writing on facebook...that`s possible she must be bored bc of the waiting :lol:

Yes.. at least she is first up! Serena and Nadal must be pissed right now.. they have the last matches on.. unlikely to get that finished IMHO. And then they will have to play 2 days in a row. Ana will finish her match today for sure, hopefully with a win! :sobbing:

About facebook.. I don't know.. but she might... she is probably waiting for ages at the locker room, she might have got online..

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Good decision on my part to hit the gym instead of sitting around :lol: Though I cut back my workout because I was starting to worry about Ana's match :( So it still hasn't started :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 11:49 AM
Good decision on my part to hit the gym instead of sitting around :lol: Though I cut back my workout because I was starting to worry about Ana's match :( So it still hasn't started :rolleyes:

No... nothing.. :sobbing:

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 11:54 AM
Yeah, Serena and Nadal probably won`t get to play today at all :o
Stay focused Ana
So they will probably start around 3pm :rolleyes: and i read it will probebly be raining again around 7pm :rolleyes:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 11:54 AM
Look at the BOMBSHELL thread in GM :lol: Ana in the players' lounge :inlove:

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 11:58 AM
She looks relaxed. Thats good :)

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 12:01 PM
:lol:
Great picture :lol:
What are they doing with their fingers :confused:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 12:05 PM
I knew Ana was friends with ARad! :spit::lol:

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 12:23 PM
Btw Kimiko having a nap in background on second photo :spit: :lol:

The 2nd Law
May 27th, 2010, 12:37 PM
Wow, I went to Taekwondo tonight completely expecting to come home to either good or bad news. Instead there is ntohing :lol: Stupid rain. Stay strong all of you who have missed sleep or class whilst waiting :wavey:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 12:44 PM
I have my exams next week and I'm wasting my time waiting for this match :o Update soon from eurosport I hope :sad:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 12:48 PM
I missed class.. for.. nothing! :mad:

They could at least give some update.. :sobbing:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 12:52 PM
I missed class.. for.. nothing! :mad:

They could at least give some update.. :sobbing:

I skipped school for this too :lol: Waste :sad:
Eurosport just showed the court, still raining :bigcry: I dunno will Ana get on court at all today :sobbing:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 12:56 PM
She better get on soon :rolleyes: I want an earlier night, such a hectic day ahead tomorrow :sad:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 12:58 PM
And I regret not getting my haircut; will probably have to wait until Sunday now :sad: It's kinda annoying me :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 01:02 PM
I'm so annoyed.. I hate to miss class.

Will Ana even play today? Will I have to miss class tomorrow as well? :sobbing: Because after all this I'll watch the match no matter what. :o

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 01:03 PM
No play until 4 PM :rolleyes:
Whatever i probably won`t be able to see the match unless it starts and finishes before 5 pm :rolleyes:

Schedule after this will be interesting :spit:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 01:06 PM
Er maybe final this year for mens will be played on a Monday or Tuesday :spit:

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 01:09 PM
I doubt there is gonna be any play today, really. It looks like horrible weather there.

SOA_MC
May 27th, 2010, 01:13 PM
Looking on the bright side if this rains stays for awhile. We might have Ana into the second week of a Slam for the first time in 2 years :yeah:

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 01:14 PM
I doubt there is gonna be any play today, really. It looks like horrible weather there.

Uh i`m sure they will put them play ,even for 20-30 mins but they will
Monfils played until 10pm last night.But all these rain delays are horrible.Players probably woke up early and they will have to play so late :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Looking on the bright side if this rains stays for awhile. We might have Ana into the second week of a Slam for the first time in 2 years :yeah:

:spit: It would have to rain for 3 straight days.. :spit:

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Looking on the bright side if this rains stays for awhile. We might have Ana into the second week of a Slam for the first time in 2 years :yeah:

:lol: This may be her only way in. Come on rain.

Seriously, I haven't slept all night. Now it's morning. I almost want them to cancel all of today's matches so I can go to sleep.

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Uh i`m sure they will put them play ,even for 20-30 mins but they will
Monfils played until 10pm last night.But all these rain delays are horrible.Players probably woke up early and they will have to play so late :rolleyes:

but I'm thinking it might rain all day :lol: it seems pretty set...either way their schedule is really gonna be screwed up.

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Looking on the bright side if this rains stays for awhile. We might have Ana into the second week of a Slam for the first time in 2 years :yeah:

Well she was in second week of both RG and Wimbly last year :shrug:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Sweeping water off the court covers now!

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 01:21 PM
I'll be so pissed if they call off the matches for today and then schedule Ana to play on Court 17 tomorrow.. :o After missing 2 important classes today for this, I don't accept not being able to watch the match. :mad:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Sweeping water off the court covers now!

Oh! Not raining anymore?

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 01:23 PM
They are taking off the covers!

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 01:23 PM
but I'm thinking it might rain all day :lol: it seems pretty set...either way their schedule is really gonna be screwed up.

I don`t know,they still have at least 5h until it gets dark :lol:
This reminds me of USO so much :tape:

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 01:25 PM
Ana should be on court in 10-15mins :woohoo:

SOA_MC
May 27th, 2010, 01:25 PM
Well she was in second week of both RG and Wimbly last year :shrug:

True.

Though I normally consider QF onwards to be start of second week at Slams

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 01:26 PM
Come on Ana :scared:

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 01:27 PM
I don`t know,they still have at least 5h until it gets dark :lol:
This reminds me of USO so much :tape:

RG and USO both need a roof. It's ridiculous for a slam to lose this much play, they can't afford it :o But looks like I was wrong (happily :lol:) since the covers are off.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 01:28 PM
Getting really nervous now.. :sobbing:

The 2nd Law
May 27th, 2010, 01:29 PM
Come on! Please start now!

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 01:30 PM
It's still pouring a little bit.. :help:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 01:30 PM
The way it's raining Kleybanova would be squeezing a LOT of water out of her hair :tape:

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 01:32 PM
The way it's raining Kleybanova would be squeezing a LOT of water out of her hair :tape:

oh god :o

Pops Maellard
May 27th, 2010, 01:37 PM
JJ-Kanepi about to start...still waiting on Ana...

SOA_MC
May 27th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Court 1 livestream if anyone needs it.

http://www.livescorehunter.com/?option=com_content&id=2577&view=article&Itemid=192

The 2nd Law
May 27th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Court 1 livestream if anyone needs it.

http://www.livescorehunter.com/?option=com_content&id=2577&view=article&Itemid=192

Thanks!!

Adrian1092
May 27th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Ajde Ana lets go! :hearts:

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 02:50 PM
cannot find any livestreams, but anyways...

I officially lost hope on Ana, I think she's done:o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 02:52 PM
This was one of Ana's most embarrassing losses... Third bagel of her career... Getting bageled by Kleybanova on clay is so bad..

I mean.. remember Fed Cup? That was bad right? Well.. she won 2 more games..

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 02:53 PM
OMG...:sobbing: That was beyond embarrassing. She has reached a new low. :sobbing: When will this nightmare ever end? :sobbing: :sobbing: :sobbing:

Ksenia.
May 27th, 2010, 02:53 PM
:sobbing: Awful, just awful.

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 02:53 PM
This was one of Ana's most embarrassing losses... Third bagel of her career... Getting bageled by Kleybanova on clay is so bad..

I mean.. remember Fed Cup? That was bad right? Well.. she won 2 more games..

the stats are terrible, DFs galore and BPs wasted... yes this looks like it was worse than Fed Cup. I think Ana needs to look herself in the mirror and decide what to do, it's not working for her.

I also I had a feeling about this, after the loss to JJ in Madrid that little confidence went down south... i think it hurt her a lot.

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 02:54 PM
What a fucking joke.

HowardH
May 27th, 2010, 02:54 PM
Couldn't watch the second half since no streams seemed to be working. But it seemed that Alisa was able to win every big point. Ana's serve let her down in the beginning, and although when she managed to get on the attack and force Alisa to defend she was able to come in and finish at the net, that happened too rarely. Alisa was in control of too many points.

I assume something similar was happening in the second set.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 02:55 PM
After this.. it's really hard to have any faith in Ana.. :sad: Until she decides to recommit, and chances her head, there will be nothing.

This was just TOO embarrassing.

DownTheLine21
May 27th, 2010, 02:57 PM
This was one of Ana's most embarrassing losses... Third bagel of her career... Getting bageled by Kleybanova on clay is so bad..

I mean.. remember Fed Cup? That was bad right? Well.. she won 2 more games..

And the manner in which she lost was even more embarrassing. So many opportunities wasted. It wasn't like she was just blown off the court.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 02:58 PM
I also I had a feeling about this, after the loss to JJ in Madrid that little confidence went down south... i think it hurt her a lot.

Yes.. the JJ match was crucial.. I knew it.. I said so before it. Once she lost that, and the way she lost it.. her head went spinning. It really hurt her, because this was a new low.

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 02:59 PM
And the manner in which she lost was even more embarrassing. So many opportunities wasted. It wasn't like she was just blown off the court.

and get bagelled in the process? I mean what a joke:o and she said she wants to be back in top 10 at the end of the season, yeah sure:rolleyes:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 02:59 PM
And the manner in which she lost was even more embarrassing. So many opportunities wasted. It wasn't like she was just blown off the court.

Yes.. but that is because her head is screwed up. The moment she wasted chances to get to BP at 2-0* in the first.. and then got called a foot fault serving at *2-1, I knew it looked bad.. but hey, this was a lot worse.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:03 PM
Couldn't watch the second half since no streams seemed to be working. But it seemed that Alisa was able to win every big point. Ana's serve let her down in the beginning, and although when she managed to get on the attack and force Alisa to defend she was able to come in and finish at the net, that happened too rarely. Alisa was in control of too many points.

I assume something similar was happening in the second set.

Ana played like a slow pusher. Her serve didn't work.. but the worse part for me was actually her ground game.. whenever she tried to go for it, she would mostly miss... and it didn't even had power. Alisa took the game from Ana, and Ana wasted all chances she had.

I mean... Ana started with 2 games.. than lost 12 out of 14. Bad bad bad..

Polikarpov
May 27th, 2010, 03:03 PM
I'm so happy I wasn't able to catch the torture that is Ana Ivanovic.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:04 PM
and get bagelled in the process? I mean what a joke:o and she said she wants to be back in top 10 at the end of the season, yeah sure:rolleyes:

Not even to the top 30.. :o

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Not even to the top 30.. :o

hey izzy:wavey:
how did she serve? the toss?:tape: stats are hideous:o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:12 PM
hey izzy:wavey:
how did she serve? the toss?:tape: stats are hideous:o

Imagine something bad.. it was worse. Everything.

But hardly surprising considering how bad she played against Chang. :shrug:

Protoss
May 27th, 2010, 03:12 PM
The match overall was pretty bad but I thought Ana's forehand was good at least. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:13 PM
The match overall was pretty bad but I thought Ana's forehand was good at least. :shrug:

It has no power.. she can't hit past anyone.. so no.. it's not good.

Horizon
May 27th, 2010, 03:15 PM
Rome was so promising and I was about to start worshipping Heinz :sad: but I agree that the JJ loss just compromised all the confidence she gained from Rome. Alisa seemed to play very well to be fair, it wasn't an abysmal loss really, but it wasn't exactly progress.

Ana played like a slow pusher. Her serve didn't work.. but the worse part for me was actually her ground game.. whenever she tried to go for it, she would mostly miss... and it didn't even had power. Alisa took the game from Ana, and Ana wasted all chances she had.

I mean... Ana started with 2 games.. than lost 12 out of 14. Bad bad bad..
I'm not sure if it's bad that Ana has compromised her power or not? I mean at first in late '08 we were critisising her for being brainless and smashing forehands everywhere.. at least now she doesn't do that? She has compromised I guess. But this different style doesn't work either- she doesn't have the speed or fitness to do what she's doing, but at least she tried something new? I'm kind of undecided what's best for her now.

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 03:15 PM
Who wants to take a guess what she'll say in her presser? I am so looking forward to the improvements she is making. :rolleyes:

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 03:15 PM
Imagine something bad.. it was worse. Everything.

But hardly surprising considering how bad she played against Chang. :shrug:

the toss was the same as in Rd1? I still wonder why she had this fluke good serve in Rome and now is back to the same old:o even with her pusher play, with a decent serve she could get some wins with top players playing subpar in Rome...

Protoss
May 27th, 2010, 03:17 PM
It has no power.. she can't hit past anyone.. so no.. it's not good.
She got Kleybanova out of position/pushed well behind the baseline with her forehand and had some nice return winners with it. :shrug: :)

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 03:18 PM
Rome was so promising and I was about to start worshipping Heinz :sad: but I agree that the JJ loss just compromised all the confidence she gained from Rome. Alisa seemed to play very well to be fair, it wasn't an abysmal loss really, but it wasn't exactly progress.


I'm not sure if it's bad that Ana has compromised her power or not? I mean at first in late '08 we were critisising her for being brainless and smashing forehands everywhere.. at least now she doesn't do that? She has compromised I guess. But this different style doesn't work either- she doesn't have the speed or fitness to do what she's doing, but at least she tried something new? I'm kind of undecided what's best for her now.

she can't be a pusher:o and actually i don't remember her being criticized for being a ballbasher, she started pushing in 2008 already:o

I really wonder why she doesn't smack the ball, and if it goes out, ok try again the next point. she's losing anyways, power is the only way she can play successfully:shrug:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:22 PM
the toss was the same as in Rd1? I still wonder why she had this fluke good serve in Rome and now is back to the same old:o even with her pusher play, with a decent serve she could get some wins with top players playing subpar in Rome...

Ana always has some flukey weeks... She had some in 2009 as well.. Rome is just another one. I said it before.. if she couldn't follow it up, it wouldn't mean a thing. She not only didn't follow it up, she just got one of the worst beatdowns of her career.

Ana's results this year:

Brisbane SF
AO 2nd round
IW 2nd round (1st round bye)
Miami 3rd round
Stuttgart 1st round
Rome SF
Madrid 2nd round (1st round bye)
RG 2nd round

Any other player in the top 50 has better results. But the results are not surprising really.. she has played really awful tennis. Not only it's no progress, she keeps regressing.. today was a clear example. We thought she couldn't play worse than in Fed Cup.. well, she did. One or 2 fluke weeks don't make it look any better.

Horizon
May 27th, 2010, 03:23 PM
she can't be a pusher:o and actually i don't remember her being criticized for being a ballbasher, she started pushing in 2008 already:o

I really wonder why she doesn't smack the ball, and if it goes out, ok try again the next point. she's losing anyways, power is the only way she can play successfully:shrug:

Don't you remember the match vs coin? I remeber that match as embarassing and in my opinion that was far worse than what's she's doing today. I don't know, I just think it's better that she's at least tried to compromise, even if it didn't work.

Marilyn Monheaux
May 27th, 2010, 03:23 PM
So glad I didn't have to witness this.:sobbing:

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Don't you remember the match vs coin? I remeber that match as embarassing and in my opinion that was far worse than what's she's doing today. I don't know, I just think it's better that she's at least tried to compromise, even if it didn't work.

i think it was miles better:o she fought at least, this was a total tank with a bagel.:o This is the worst loss ever, i'm sorry to say that. It's RG, clay, after she had a good clay season. :o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Rome was so promising and I was about to start worshipping Heinz :sad: but I agree that the JJ loss just compromised all the confidence she gained from Rome. Alisa seemed to play very well to be fair, it wasn't an abysmal loss really, but it wasn't exactly progress.

Oh.. it was an abysmal loss. Probably one of the most embarrassing of her career.

I'm not sure if it's bad that Ana has compromised her power or not? I mean at first in late '08 we were critisising her for being brainless and smashing forehands everywhere.. at least now she doesn't do that? She has compromised I guess. But this different style doesn't work either- she doesn't have the speed or fitness to do what she's doing, but at least she tried something new? I'm kind of undecided what's best for her now.

Ana doesn't have what it takes to be a pusher. She needs to be agressive, otherwise she is toast. And I don't think she compromised her power in the way that she doesn't use it because she chooses to have more margin.. she just doesn't have the power anymore. Even when she tries to attack, it's a puff ball that is easily redirected. It's bad all around.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:30 PM
She got Kleybanova out of position/pushed well behind the baseline with her forehand and had some nice return winners with it. :shrug: :)

Kleybanova is not exactly super fast on clay.. and Ana could never finish off the point, because her forehand has no weight so it's easily redirected. You are setting the standards WAY too low.. playing like this Ana can't beat a fly.

Horizon
May 27th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Well I'm agreed with you two that she doesn't have what it takes to be a pusher. I'm just trying to justify her new game plan - whether it is a game plan or if she's just naturally lost her offence is debatable. I want her to be aggressive but I'm trying to give credit for her doing something new and hopefully working her game back up in babysteps to what it was; rather than bashing shots away carelessly and hoping her killer weapons come back by themselves.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:32 PM
Don't you remember the match vs coin? I remeber that match as embarassing and in my opinion that was far worse than what's she's doing today. I don't know, I just think it's better that she's at least tried to compromise, even if it didn't work.

I recently saw that again. And that was SO much better than what she is doing nowadays.. I remember thinking Ana was playing like crap.. well, with that form she could definitely be doing better than right now.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Well I'm agreed with you two that she doesn't have what it takes to be a pusher. I'm just trying to justify her new game plan - whether it is a game plan or if she's just naturally lost her offence is debatable. I want her to be aggressive but I'm trying to give credit for her doing something new and hopefully working her game back up in babysteps to what it was; rather than bashing shots away carelessly and hoping her killer weapons come back by themselves.

The thing is.. every match she plays nowadays (except for fluke Rome) is a step backwards.. not a step foward. She way worse than in Fed Cup today.. on a surface that is better for her than for her opponent.. and she has had plenty of time to make any babysteps..

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Well I'm agreed with you two that she doesn't have what it takes to be a pusher. I'm just trying to justify her new game plan - whether it is a game plan or if she's just naturally lost her offence is debatable. I want her to be aggressive but I'm trying to give credit for her doing something new and hopefully working her game back up in babysteps to what it was; rather than bashing shots away carelessly and hoping her killer weapons come back by themselves.

but this gameplan doesn't works for 2 years now, what's the point?:shrug:

she says "I'm not the same player anymore", so maybe yes she lost her power. But the only reason for that is that maybe she doesn't time her shots well, or she lost/changed her technique, because i can't understand how she could lose power, she's physically as strong as before:o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:36 PM
i think it was miles better:o she fought at least, this was a total tank with a bagel.:o This is the worst loss ever, i'm sorry to say that. It's RG, clay, after she had a good clay season. :o

She didn't have a good clay season. She had a good Rome.. which was probably some fluke. She went 1-3 if we consider all other clay tournaments.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Who wants to take a guess what she'll say in her presser? I am so looking forward to the improvements she is making. :rolleyes:

Ana will probably say.. there are hard days.. but she is doing great at practice.. :rolleyes:

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Hey look, Ana's website crashed. Just like her career. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:40 PM
Having said all.. I think Ana will have a decent USO. She is doing everything backwards nowadays.. So we should think about all the tournaments she usually sucks on and look foward to those. :o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Hey look, Ana's website crashed. Just like her career. :sobbing:

They probably don't even know what to say.. :o

Horizon
May 27th, 2010, 03:44 PM
The thing is.. every match she plays nowadays (except for fluke Rome) is a step backwards.. not a step foward. She way worse than in Fed Cup today.. on a surface that is better for her than for her opponent.. and she has had plenty of time to make any babysteps..
But what else is there other than hoping to make those small steps? She's not just going to launch back into her old self anymore. And if you think she has just lost power on the forehand completely, then she doesn't even have much choice?

but this gameplan doesn't works for 2 years now, what's the point?:shrug:

she says "I'm not the same player anymore", so maybe yes she lost her power. But the only reason for that is that maybe she doesn't time her shots well, or she lost/changed her technique, because i can't understand how she could lose power, she's physically as strong as before:o
Maybe, I don't really understand it either. Which is why I hope it's a gameplan.

I think what she's doing is the only option really, Alisa was just unfortunately too good today. It's not like Ana didn't have her chances in this match. Her current game could have worked if Alisa had just not been on top form.

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 03:46 PM
Ana presser live on Roland Garros radio right now

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Having said all.. I think Ana will have a decent USO. She is doing everything backwards nowadays.. So we should think about all the tournaments she usually sucks on and look foward to those. :o

:spit:

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 03:50 PM
Ana presser live on Roland Garros radio right now

the last question:

"So you're happy about your game it's only a matter of getting back your groove"?

Ana: "Yes"

:tape:

InsideOut.
May 27th, 2010, 03:51 PM
I opened new thread. :tears:

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 03:59 PM
the last question:

"So you're happy about your game it's only a matter of getting back your groove"?

Ana: "Yes"

:tape:

:rolleyes: She sounds like a broken record.

They also asked Ana about JJ's fistpump from Madrid. Ana was uncomfortable discussing it saying "It's hard for me to comment" but Ana did say "Sports doesn't build character, it shows it".

HowardH
May 27th, 2010, 04:02 PM
Everyone's evaluation, that pretty much no one apart from KCC (who played awfully) would have lost to Ana in the first round, and that the way she played she would have been double bagelled by Alisa, proved to be (unfortunately) right. I had hoped for much more. In my mind I had hoped that she could win. It's her favourite surface after all. Probably Alisa's worst surface. But as Izzy pointed out, Alisa has shown that her game causes Ana problems even if she isn't playing too badly. So if she plays badly... she gets crushed.

Ana played like a slow pusher. Her serve didn't work.. but the worse part for me was actually her ground game.. whenever she tried to go for it, she would mostly miss... and it didn't even had power. Alisa took the game from Ana, and Ana wasted all chances she had.

I mean... Ana started with 2 games.. than lost 12 out of 14. Bad bad bad..

Yes, I know what you mean, although it was actually worse, she lost 12 out of 13 games :tape:.

It seemed as if Alisa could just take points whenever she needed them. As if all it took was a little concentration and the point was basically guaranteed. This was probably caused by Ana's unfortunate inability to exert any control on the match. If she was being aggressive, hitting with power, it would be impossible for any opponent to win all the big points.

Ana doesn't have what it takes to be a pusher. She needs to be agressive, otherwise she is toast. And I don't think she compromised her power in the way that she doesn't use it because she chooses to have more margin.. she just doesn't have the power anymore. Even when she tries to attack, it's a puff ball that is easily redirected. It's bad all around.

she can't be a pusher:o and actually i don't remember her being criticized for being a ballbasher, she started pushing in 2008 already:o

I really wonder why she doesn't smack the ball, and if it goes out, ok try again the next point. she's losing anyways, power is the only way she can play successfully:shrug:

Well I'm agreed with you two that she doesn't have what it takes to be a pusher. I'm just trying to justify her new game plan - whether it is a game plan or if she's just naturally lost her offence is debatable. I want her to be aggressive but I'm trying to give credit for her doing something new and hopefully working her game back up in babysteps to what it was; rather than bashing shots away carelessly and hoping her killer weapons come back by themselves.

What seems to have happened is that at some stage Ana got used to being nervous and pushing. There were phases when she just was keeping the ball in play and we never saw the big serve or forehand for months at a time. It was probably part of a game plan at some stage, when she was with Sven.

Now she is attempting to be aggressive again. I don't think hitting softly is part of the game plan anymore. But the power isn't always there for her. Sometimes she can hit hard, but she has been hitting softly for too long and old habits die hard. It's in her subconscious now, she reduces the power almost without thinking when she gets stressed, so sometimes when she tries to hit hard it just doesn't work, it comes out soft and inaccurately. It's not like she has lost strength in her muscles. But if you ask anyone knowledgeable about strength or power training, a huge part of strength or power is the nervous system. You have to move things in the right sequence, and it also makes a big difference how clear the signal from the nervous system is. That's why when people are nervous they can lose a lot of their strength and feel suddenly weak. Their muscles haven't gotten any weaker, but the signals from their nervous system suddenly become a bit confused because of all the stress.

The problem is this all happens almost at the level of the subconscious. When you hit very hard, it feels relaxed and effortless. Just like if you ask an Olympic sprinter what it felt like when they ran their fastest times, they'll tell you it was so easy. Being relaxed and being powerful go hand in hand. Unfortunately Ana still has a tendency to tense up. She's not the only one mind you, look at what happened to Dinara against Kimiko. She was so nervous she couldn't hit with any power at all near the end. Her feet wouldn't obey her at all either.

It's still possible for her to return to something like her best game. It's definitely in her. I wonder what will happen in the rest of the year. I still believe good things are possible for her. But... it will be tough. She needs to actually win a tough match where the opponent plays well. In Rome too many matches were gifted to her by opponents playing poorly. She doesn't remember how to beat an opponent who's actually laying down a serious challenge. She doesn't remember how to lift for big points. Losing to JJ in the way she did definitely did not help the situation.

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 04:03 PM
:rolleyes: She sounds like a broken record.

They also asked Ana about JJ's fistpump from Madrid. Ana was uncomfortable discussing it saying "It's hard for me to comment" but Ana did say "Sports doesn't build character, it shows it".

yeah that was random:spit: i'm pretty sure it go to her as well as the loss to JJ. When she loses to her everything goes downhill:o

She said she's improving, that it takes time, that she's trying new things on court, blah blah blah:o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 04:04 PM
But what else is there other than hoping to make those small steps? She's not just going to launch back into her old self anymore. And if you think she has just lost power on the forehand completely, then she doesn't even have much choice?

She lost power because she is misstiming all of her shots, including the forehand.. look how she has to finish most of them behind her head.. it should (and was in the old days) behind her shoulder. She does that to compensate the bad timing, but it takes away the power. It's got to a point it is a problem of tecquinique. But she got to this point because she plays afraid.. she is afraid all the time. So she doesn't commit.. she hesitates.. and that second of hesitation before hitting the shot is enough for it to be mistimed.

Maybe, I don't really understand it either. Which is why I hope it's a gameplan.

I think what she's doing is the only option really, Alisa was just unfortunately too good today. It's not like Ana didn't have her chances in this match. Her current game could have worked if Alisa had just not been on top form.

How sad is that? Having to hope you opponent sucks so you can have any chance.. Ana used to be the one to take control of the match and make or break it. And that's how it should always be.

With this game.. doing what she is doing.. she will never recover the confidence. Without confidence, who can improve? It's all wrong.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 04:10 PM
the last question:

"So you're happy about your game it's only a matter of getting back your groove"?

Ana: "Yes"

:tape:

:help:

I don't even know what to say.. she is still waiting for it to fall from the sky.. that way she can have one or two fluke weeks during the year.. when the stars align.. but she will never be good again.

Until she changes her approach to tennis, she is screwed.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 04:12 PM
yeah that was random:spit: i'm pretty sure it go to her as well as the loss to JJ. When she loses to her everything goes downhill:o

She said she's improving, that it takes time, that she's trying new things on court, blah blah blah:o

Same old.. same old...

But yeah.. the loss to JJ hurt her a lot, I'm sure. It killed her spirit..

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 04:12 PM
:rolleyes: She sounds like a broken record.

They also asked Ana about JJ's fistpump from Madrid. Ana was uncomfortable discussing it saying "It's hard for me to comment" but Ana did say "Sports doesn't build character, it shows it".

The one positive from today, is that she burned Jankovic with that quote. She basically stated that Jankovic has no character in an intellectual way :p

soul
May 27th, 2010, 04:18 PM
I dont want to comment after this loss,her draw was open,she had the chances........after 2 years if she is still looking for a confidence nothing much to say.What is she waiting for?Without defending many much points she is at the same point.What was the Rome?Im starting to think Rome was a dream.ooffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffffff

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 04:24 PM
Jon Weirthem is criticising Ana pretty harshly on twitter:

jon_wertheim

Ana ivanovic: you cannot lose 6-3, 6-0 and lament: 'I was also a little bit unlucky with so many line calls on my serve.' 16 minutes ago via OpenBeak

jon_wertheim

More ivanovic:' You know how they say: Sport doesn't build character.' One million little league coaches shake heads in disagreement 1 minute ago via OpenBeak

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Jon Weirthem is criticising Ana pretty harshly on twitter:

i agree, she is looking delusional with her comments:o

Kleybanova is on the radio now, she is very very smart and wise, if only Ana had her brain:o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 04:30 PM
i agree, she is looking delusional with her comments:o

Kleybanova is on the radio now, she is very very smart and wise, if only Ana had her brain:o

I didn't listen to Ana.. I was having lunch... but I can imagine all she said. :o

I'm afraid Ana might go down in history as the biggest talent wasted in the most strange way.

The Daviator
May 27th, 2010, 04:47 PM
The good thing about this neverending slump is that the losses don't hurt at all, onto the next tournament :o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 04:48 PM
The quotes from Ana's presser are beyond ridiculous..

"I don't think I played that bad, actually. For a while I think she didn't miss a ball at all. She made so many winners, too," a smiling Ivanovic said of her loss in Paris.

"On many important points she played really, really well, and I didn't think I did too much wrong out there. I was also a little bit unlucky with so many line calls on my serve and just everything going out. "It was a combination of a few things, but she played a well match today."

Number 28 Kleybanova reached the Roland Garros third round for the first time after being sidelined earlier this year after Miami due to plantar fasciitis. Since her return in May she lost in the Rome first round and won a match in Madrid.

Ivanovic said the return of her game will be a slow process.

"I think I'm on the right path, doing lots of things right. I have a plan in place, and I have really good team around me. I'm very happy with the improvements that have been made.

"It's been such a long time until I was actually competing and playing lots of matches, it's gonna take some time for it to become a pattern and become used to competing again at that high level against top players."

WTF? So.. she didn't do much wrong.. the problem is that Kleybs wasn't missing.. why has Ana suddenly become a player who only looks for UEs from the opponent, instead of going into a match to win it herself. That's huge bullshit.

And if she keeps on doing like this, she will keep barely playing.. :o

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 04:49 PM
Aga and Vera both lost. Ana's draw looks so ridiculously easy right now. What a waste. :sobbing:

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 04:52 PM
The quotes from Ana's presser are beyond ridiculous..



WTF? So.. she didn't do much wrong.. the problem is that Kleybs wasn't missing.. why has Ana suddenly become a player who only looks for UEs from the opponent, instead of going into a match to win it herself. That's huge bullshit.

And if she keeps on doing like this, she will keep barely playing.. :o

yeah the usual delusional stuff, i'm curious to see the match now and watch GOAT kleybanova:o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 04:57 PM
Aga and Vera both lost. Ana's draw looks so ridiculously easy right now. What a waste. :sobbing:

Cakewalk for JJ.. maybe this is really her year.. :o

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 05:00 PM
Who wants to take a guess what she'll say in her presser? I am so looking forward to the improvements she is making. :rolleyes:

The quotes from Ana's presser are beyond ridiculous..

"I think I'm on the right path, doing lots of things right. I have a plan in place, and I have really good team around me. I'm very happy with the improvements that have been made.


OMG, I was so right. :rolleyes:

bruce goose
May 27th, 2010, 05:04 PM
Wow...not much to say here now....Some of you posters who call Rome a fluke are right...to an EXTENT.You can call it a fluke in the general sense b/c it didn't signify any profound deep change in slumping Ana.However,I'm not gonna call it a pure,unmitigated,100% fluke for these reasons:At Wimby 2009,aye KNEW that Vee was gonna kick Ana's ass...there was practically zero doubt in my mind.All the talk about Ana's 'improved play' was just a delusion then...it was the same for other respites from 2009-Present.What made Rome different was that Ana showed some mental strength in situations--in some cases for the first time--that had always bothered her in the past.THAT'S why we had legit reasons to hope that Heinz was getting thru to her.

As I posted before,Ana and Dinara(and others)were never mentally tough like top-flight champions are.....That's why they need to use certain strategies to help them focus,and not choke,in pressure situations.Unfortunately,because these gals ARE weak,it's easy for them to get sidetracked...or to lose confidence in strategies that've worked previously...or to foolishly try some new technique that was ill-thought.

In the end,it all comes down to whether or not Heinz can reach Ana and teach her to cast out her negative self-image and thought processes....I'm starting to dislike Dragana and Pop more and more:(.....You two NEVER noticed that your daughter had psychological problems,when coping with stress,while she was growing up??:rolleyes:Thanks,assholes!!

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 05:04 PM
:spit:
So i sat down to watch Ana`s match and i watched it until 2-4 then i decided there is no way i`m watching that crap anymore and i went out :lol:
I see that match went just like i thought ...

We discussed it a milion times she can`t be aggressive player without a serve ,it`s impossible .She can`t be a pusher either bc she doesn`t have good movement so we are stuck :yawn:
Bagel :lol:
So is she firing Heinz now or what?

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 05:05 PM
Since it's raining again, they just showed the highlights of Ana's match in the brazilian ESPN. The commentator earlier on was saying how immensily talented Ana is, but how she had drown herself into a endless hole. He was seriously wondering why players had such a hard time admiting and working on the psychological aspect of the game... because for him it's clear that Ana is struggling mightly mentally.. and that she won't get out of this slump until she adresses it.

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 05:06 PM
:spit:
So i sat to watch Ana`s match and i watched it until 2-4 then i decided there is no way i`m watching that crap anymore and i went out :lol:
I see that match went just like i thought ...

We discussed it a milion times she can`t be aggressive player without a serve ,it`s impossible .She can`t be a pusher either bc she doesn`t have good movement so we are stuck :yawn:
Bagel :lol:
So is she firing Heinz now or what?

jelena:wavey:

no she won't, she said she's happy about her game and she see improvements, and that it takes time. These words (though delusional and pathetic) make me think she'll keep him for a more while:o

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 05:07 PM
:spit:
So i sat down to watch Ana`s match and i watched it until 2-4 then i decided there is no way i`m watching that crap anymore and i went out :lol:
I see that match went just like i thought ...

We discussed it a milion times she can`t be aggressive player without a serve ,it`s impossible .She can`t be a pusher either bc she doesn`t have good movement so we are stuck :yawn:
Bagel :lol:
So is she firing Heinz now or what?

It actually got worse Jelena. She only had 35% of first serves in, in the second set. :o

About Heinz.. :shrug: Can he do something about her? I'm not even sure anymore.. Ana needs to help herself, and she isn't.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 05:07 PM
jelena:wavey:

no she won't, she said she's happy about her game and she see improvements, and that it takes time. These words (though delusional and pathetic) make me think she'll keep him for a more while:o

She said the very same thing after losing to Azarenka last year.. :shrug:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 05:13 PM
This is from 2009.. reminds anyone of anything?

"I feel my game is coming back, and I feel more confident and more comfortable on thecourt. I just feel content about myfitness level, as well. Yeah, justtrying to enjoy basically and compete. I really miss competition in last months, so I'm really happy to have opportunity toplay more matches."

"We've (new coach Craig Kardon) been working a lot on mygame overall, and I think I improved a lot of areas of my game. I added some things, and I feel morecomfortable coming forward, obviously. But, no, I think working with Craig is really good. I feel also since I start working with him Igot my game back and committing more to my shots and moving forward. That's something that was lacking months before that.Yeah, Iím still working really good."

"I mean, like I was speaking before, I felt very confident in my practices. I felt like I was improving. I just never had chance to get into a tournament and get a lot of matches happening. "

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 05:16 PM
This is from 2009.. reminds anyone of anything?

it's the same, ana is a broken record:hysteric: still heinz is friend with her manager, it might continue... what other options does she have, gong back to sven?:tape:

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 05:21 PM
jelena:wavey:

no she won't, she said she's happy about her game and she see improvements, and that it takes time. These words (though delusional and pathetic) make me think she'll keep him for a more while:o

Improvements :lol:
She better keep him and stay away from golf courses :lol:
It actually got worse Jelena. She only had 35% of first serves in, in the second set. :o

About Heinz.. :shrug: Can he do something about her? I'm not even sure anymore.. Ana needs to help herself, and she isn't.

Well we have the same problems as always: serve/ball toss,regaining power in her shots,and work on her fitness
And yeah Ana needs to help herself :o
Serve is the most important issue as always,when her serve isn`t working her all game breaks down.
Kleybanova has so much more power than Ana it`s ridiculous :lol:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 05:23 PM
it's the same, ana is a broken record:hysteric: still heinz is friend with her manager, it might continue... what other options does she have, gong back to sven?:tape:

:shrug:

I hope she doesn't fire Heinz either, he is a great coach.. not his fault that Ana has a screwed up head. I was just trying to point out that what she said means nothing.. anything can happen.

She has been saying the same stuff since the slump began.. The big problem is that she keeps waiting for things to fall from the sky.. waiting for opponents UEs.. waiting for matches to happen.. waiting for her game to appear.. waiting for wins to come.. I'm beginning to think that's why she has become so passive.. she has grown used to waiting.. and when things don't happen her way.. like today.. she thinks "Not my day today.." and there is no fight nothing.. after all.. in her head it just wasn't meant to happen, it was just not her day.

I used to love Ana because she would never give up.. now that's what she does the most. In a @#!@# grand slam, and she doesn't even put up a fight. Embarrassing. :o

Dexter
May 27th, 2010, 05:28 PM
The good thing about this neverending slump is that the losses don't hurt at all, onto the next tournament :oYep, pretty much.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 05:29 PM
Improvements :lol:
She better keep him and stay away from golf courses :lol:

I bet she goes WAGing ALL july.. :o:mad:

Well we have the same problems as always: serve/ball toss,regaining power in her shots,and work on her fitness
And yeah Ana needs to help herself :o
Serve is the most important issue as always,when her serve isn`t working her all game breaks down.
Kleybanova has so much more power than Ana it`s ridiculous :lol:

Yeah.. And she can't absorb power at all.. she gets completely overwhelmed.. she always had this issue though. But she used to compensate having a really heavy ball.. now.. it's so weak.

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 05:35 PM
This is from 2009.. reminds anyone of anything?

And then he was fired 10 days later :lol:

But really this wasn`t suprising at all (maybe i`m just used to losing just like Ana:o )
Ana has no serve,she barely uses her best weapon FH...so that leaves us crappy BH and bad movement
Clay or no clay Kleybanova has good serve,good FH/BH and that`s >>> crappy BH and bad movement
No wonder Ana lost

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 05:49 PM
And then he was fired 10 days later :lol:

But really this wasn`t suprising at all (maybe i`m just used to losing just like Ana:o )
Ana has no serve,she barely uses her best weapon FH...so that leaves us crappy BH and bad movement
Clay or no clay Kleybanova has good serve,good FH/BH and that`s >>> crappy BH and bad movement
No wonder Ana lost

Yes.. it was no surprise really..

What amazes me is her thinking she played well.. WTF?

Nikkiri
May 27th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Shit shit shit. :banghead:

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 05:59 PM
Yes.. it was no surprise really..

What amazes me is her thinking she played well.. WTF?

Well for someone who has no serve and FH i think she did pretty well :spit: You try fighting without any weapons :lol::lol:

Seriously i hope she won`t fire Heinz.With him we at least know she is pracicing and that`s better than watching her without a coach and taking time away from tennis
Yeah i know it`s not much ...

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:08 PM
Well for someone who has no serve and FH i think she did pretty well :spit: You try fighting without any weapons :lol::lol:

Seriously i hope she won`t fire Heinz.With him we at least know she is pracicing and that`s better than watching her without a coach and taking time away from tennis
Yeah i know it`s not much ...

I hope she keeps Heinz as well.. but I'm not sure it matters much if she is practicing or not. She doesn't have her head in it.. :shrug:

I still think Heinz or no Heinz she will spend whole july wagging.

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 06:10 PM
First of all, I am glad I didn't get to see this match. Thank you rain delay. I can't believe she got bageled. I can't. I think this is the first time Ana gets bageled since the AO 2008 semifinal against Hantuchova. Was she really that bad? A bagel? Wow...

Uff. I don't know what to say. I'm really sad. Its not so much about the loss, but how brutal it was.

What went wrong? How many DF today? UE?

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 06:13 PM
I hope she keeps Heinz as well.. but I'm not sure it matters much if she is practicing or not. She doesn't have her head in it.. :shrug:

I still think Heinz or no Heinz she will spend whole july wagging.

i agree... i think underneath it all she still doesn't want to play. is not happy to play, there is no other reason why she would be playing good in practice and be awful in matches and not able to control her serve. She probably lucked out her win against Azarenka and then got hyped up in Rome and played good the next matches, but in Madrid she was already showing frustration about being on the court. She must make up her mind about what to do with her life, i doubt she will want to be a top 100 tennis player, because yes she'll get all the endorsement money etc. but she'll still have to travel around and practice for nothing.

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 06:14 PM
I hope she keeps Heinz as well.. but I'm not sure it matters much if she is practicing or not. She doesn't have her head in it.. :shrug:

I still think Heinz or no Heinz she will spend whole july wagging.

Probably :o
So when does her next tournament start

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:18 PM
First of all, I am glad I didn't get to see this match. Thank you rain delay. I can't believe she got bageled. I can't. I think this is the first time Ana gets bageled since the AO 2008 semifinal against Hantuchova. Was she really that bad? A bagel? Wow...

Uff. I don't know what to say. I'm really sad. Its not so much about the loss, but how brutal it was.

What went wrong? How many DF today? UE?

I think she had 7 or 8 DFs.. often 2 times in each game. 17 UEs.. not sure though..

But yeah.. it was awful.. it was like a club player playing a pro. She made Kleybanova look great drilling her.. just short balls to her hitting zone ALL the time.

Just third bagel in Ana's career. Also got bageled by Bammer in IW 2006.. and by Hantuchova as you point out.

I actually thought that at the very beginning, when she won the first 2 games, she was trying to get herself to connect with the match. When she got broken the first time though, it all went downhill.. scared look was back, the "I just want to get out of here" attitude..

spiritedenergy
May 27th, 2010, 06:19 PM
also her presser.. she was smiling happily. she lost in the 2nr round of her favorite grandslam for fuck sake:o it's like she doesn't care about losing anymore, i would be pissed to having been bagelled at least:tape:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:19 PM
Probably :o
So when does her next tournament start

June 14th.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:20 PM
also her presser.. she was smiling happily. she lost in the 2nr round of her favorite grandslam for fuck sake:o it's like she doesn't care about losing anymore, i would be pissed to having been bagelled at least:tape:

Even at the match Luca.. she doesn't look like she cares much. It's like.. "oh well.. not my day.. maybe next tournament.." kind of thing. She is used to losing so.. that's why she doesn't even fight.. she starts losing, then just gives up..

She is hoping things fall from the sky.. when they don't, she let's it go..

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:24 PM
i agree... i think underneath it all she still doesn't want to play. is not happy to play, there is no other reason why she would be playing good in practice and be awful in matches and not able to control her serve. She probably lucked out her win against Azarenka and then got hyped up in Rome and played good the next matches, but in Madrid she was already showing frustration about being on the court. She must make up her mind about what to do with her life, i doubt she will want to be a top 100 tennis player, because yes she'll get all the endorsement money etc. but she'll still have to travel around and practice for nothing.

Sometimes I ask myself if it will come the time Ana will actually confront herself with that thought.. Like.. "Will I settle for this or am I just going to do everything in my power to compete at a high level again?".

jelenacg
May 27th, 2010, 06:26 PM
I actually thought that at the very beginning, when she won the first 2 games, she was trying to get herself to connect with the match. When she got broken the first time though, it all went downhill.. scared look was back, the "I just want to get out of here" attitude..

When i saw how she played to get broken i knew that was it :o
July 14th.

You mean June :confused:

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 06:28 PM
A bagel is what Ana gets for neglecting her tennis for so long.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:30 PM
When i saw how she played to get broken i knew that was it :o


You mean June :confused:

Yes, June! Sorry!

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 06:40 PM
I am seriously pissed at these journalists for bringing up all the fistpumpgate stuff again :o way to annoy me on a day where I was already extremely annoyed.

Don't wanna get into it though, just wanted to say that.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:41 PM
I am seriously pissed at these journalists for bringing up all the fistpumpgate stuff again :o way to annoy me on a day where I was already extremely annoyed.

Don't wanna get into it though, just wanted to say that.

Yeah.. yeah.. I'm also annoyed. Ana shouldn't have said anything though.. maybe that would have avoided some repercution.

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 06:43 PM
Yeah.. yeah.. I'm also annoyed. Ana shouldn't have said anything though.. maybe that would have avoided some repercution.

She shouldn't have, she probably has a right to and she kept it pretty classy what she said, but it would be better to just keep it quiet and bitch her out all you want behind closed doors. Jankovic needs no excuse to take it and run with it, but she is who she is, and that's why I hate her.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:44 PM
Since it's raining again, they just showed the highlights of Ana's match in the brazilian ESPN. The commentator earlier on was saying how immensily talented Ana is, but how she had drown herself into a endless hole. He was seriously wondering why players had such a hard time admiting and working on the psychological aspect of the game... because for him it's clear that Ana is struggling mightly mentally.. and that she won't get out of this slump until she adresses it.

Jon Wertheim agrees with the brazilian commentator.

jon_wertheim

It's so mental right now. bless the "new" coach but she really needs a sports shrink..RT @churchyfur: What happened to Ivanovic's career?!! 1 minute ago via TweetDeck

Players have a hard time acknowledging and oppening up for that though.. It's like they resist the idea.. I also think Ana needs to work on her head.. realize some stuff.. until then I can only expect a fluke win every now and then, nothing more.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:46 PM
She shouldn't have, she probably has a right to and she kept it pretty classy what she said, but it would be better to just keep it quiet and bitch her out all you want behind closed doors. Jankovic needs no excuse to take it and run with it, but she is who she is, and that's why I hate her.

Yes.. Ana shouldn't have said anything, even though what she said wasn't so bad. Now Jankovic is already going on and on how to fistpump is not fair play. I wish someone had asked her if she thought mocking an opponent was fair play. :o

In the end of the day though.. she is the one winning.. and Ana is the one who has lost more matches than not. So pretty bad scenario..

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:52 PM
Jelena nails this topic on twitter...

It's all on Ana anyway... losing the way she has been losing she has lost credibility.. and she needs to get her priorities straight. Putting the WAGing front stage has done her no good.. and she doesn't get any support back.. she should see what she really wants from her life and make a choice. Both just won't happen.

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 06:55 PM
I agree with what Mats Wilander just said about Ana. She can't say that she didn't play that bad. When you lose in two sets and get bageled in one of them, its BAD. Something is off and she has to figure out what. If she is practicing well, then she needs to play more matches and not take weeks off to practice. She is obviously struggling to implement the things she "masters" in practice in real matches. He also said that Ana doesn't know how to play the points and he is right. Ana is so lost right now :sobbing:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 06:58 PM
I agree with what Mats Wilander just said about Ana. She can't say that she didn't play that bad. When you lose in two sets and get bageled in one of them, its BAD. Something is off and she has to figure out what. If she is practicing well, then she needs to play more matches and not take weeks off to practice. She is obviously struggling to implement the things she "masters" in practice in real matches. He also said that Ana doesn't know how to play the points and he is right. Ana is so lost right now :sobbing:

She is.. she is lost.. but that's due to not really having her mind on the game.

Against Kleybs for an example.. ALL of her shots are cross court.. you should antecipate them.. Ana goes on to cover the DTL most times.. I was like.. WTF?

And she really should play more tournaments.. ask for a WC into Birmingham or something.. but she probably won't.. she doesn't want to be playing.. today was a clear example.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 07:01 PM
More of Wertheim:

jon_wertheim

couch time > court time.RT @Curtos07: If you were Ana Ivanovic, what would you be doing differently than what she is doing right now? 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

I can give 2 interpretations for this..

1 - He means she should go on court more. Like saying couch time should be court time.
2 - She should spend more time in the couch, meaning the office of a sports psychologist. Like saying couch time longer then court time.

:shrug:

SOA_MC
May 27th, 2010, 07:04 PM
The good thing about this neverending slump is that the losses don't hurt at all, onto the next tournament :o

Yeah I remember you said something last year.

"Ana is a top 50 level player untill she proves differently we should expect these results"

Now I agree :)

Jang87
May 27th, 2010, 07:05 PM
She is.. she is lost.. but that's due to not really having her mind on the game.

Against Kleybs for an example.. ALL of her shots are cross court.. you should antecipate them.. Ana goes on to cover the DTL most times.. I was like.. WTF?

And she really should play more tournaments.. ask for a WC into Birmingham or something.. but she probably won't.. she doesn't want to be playing.. today was a clear example.


Yeah, I agree. She doesn't read her opponents game at all and she is always out of balance. She plays a pusher and she loses. She plays a basher and she loses. What the hell?. She doesn't know what to do out there. And I don't really know how Heinz is going to help her with that. She needs to fix her head. Heinz can teach and preach all he wants, Ana will continue to lose until she manages to get her mind under control. Why is she nervous all the time? Jesus. Just play.

Davodus
May 27th, 2010, 07:06 PM
More of Wertheim:



I can give 2 interpretations for this..

1 - He means she should go on court more. Like saying couch time should be court time.
2 - She should spend more time in the couch, meaning the office of a sports psychologist. Like saying couch time longer then court time.

:shrug:

I'm almost 100% sure that is what he means.

blueskye
May 27th, 2010, 07:07 PM
This has probaly already been said, but just to repeat..she seems to be very naive about where her game is at. When I heard her said "she didnt play that bad" I was like WHAT macth did you wish you were playing..?! I think that if she would just realise that everything isint going as well, and that she needs to do something (anything!!) to alter her schedule-play more, downgrade whatever,( just do something!) then eventually something good might come out of it. Her mentality and her focus needs to be prioritesed and not just her fitness and tennis. One step at a time I guess..

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 07:12 PM
I'm almost 100% sure that is what he means.

Yes.. and he is most probably right.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 07:14 PM
This has probaly already been said, but just to repeat..she seems to be very naive about where her game is at. When I heard her said "she didnt play that bad" I was like WHAT macth did you wish you were playing..?! I think that if she would just realise that everything isint going as well, and that she needs to do something (anything!!) to alter her schedule-play more, downgrade whatever,( just do something!) then eventually something good might come out of it. Her mentality and her focus needs to be prioritesed and not just her fitness and tennis. One step at a time I guess..

Yes.. I don't understand her view of the match either. It's like.. what kind of game does she want to play? Is good for her not making 3000 UEs? :o

Orbis
May 27th, 2010, 07:18 PM
I can't believe she said she "didn't do much wrong in the match" at the interview. Obviously losing 3 and 0 on your favourite surface to someone you've beaten before in straight sets isn't convincing. It's frustrating to see her get overpowered these days by players she would have simply swatted away back in her heyday. I watched the match when she beat Kleybanova in Dubai, and she was just dictating play and hitting so many winners (and aces!). The match was on her racket. Maybe at the end of this long stretch of bad play she'll come out a better player, but there have just been too many bad losses in the meantime. Hopefully she just keeps trying instead of getting discouraged. Keep going Ana!

And that press conference comment was interesting :lol:

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 07:24 PM
I can't believe she said she "didn't do much wrong in the match" at the interview. Obviously losing 3 and 0 on your favourite surface to someone you've beaten before in straight sets isn't convincing. It's frustrating to see her get overpowered these days by players she would have simply swatted away back in her heyday. I watched the match when she beat Kleybanova in Dubai, and she was just dictating play and hitting so many winners (and aces!). The match was on her racket. Maybe at the end of this long stretch of bad play she'll come out a better player, but there have just been too many bad losses in the meantime. Hopefully she just keeps trying instead of getting discouraged. Keep going Ana!

And that press conference comment was interesting :lol:

Yes.. I was watching the Dubai match last night, and Ana was ubber aggressive. That's the way to play Kleybs.. take the game away from her, prevent her from get into any rhythm whatsoever. I remember Ana had over 40 winners in that match.. also 13 aces. She also had plenty of UEs.. 30 something.. but it didn't matter, because she was simply not letting Kleybanova play.

bruce goose
May 27th, 2010, 07:43 PM
Have a theory as to why Ana is smiling giddily after a 2nd Round loss at RG...but don't wanna mention it in open forum without solid proof;let's just say that it's a scary possibility:eek:

Let me type a (Bullshit)English to Plain English translation from the WTA website...as part of their recap of Ana's loss:"PERHAPS NOT A TOP PLAYER ANYMORE,but a clear threat to bounce back at any time..." As you can see,the boldface is brutally honest while the normal print is the BS part.What they're TRYING to say is,"We desperately hope that Ana isn't flushing her career down the toilet as she appears to be.Although it's almost absurd to report her match results as if they were relevant to the tournament,we're praying that--by some miracle--she finds her way back again so that we don't lose our marketing queen." :help::help:

It's different when a hater at TF badmouths Ana in a forum that I frequent;those comments often raise up my protective instincts...but it doesn't bother me when Sneki,JJ or some other tennis figure criticizes Ana.Aye HOPE that they offend her...and I was sorta glad to see her speak against JJ's fistpump cuz that shows that she still has a tiny smidge of self-respect.If these people treat Ana as a joke...which she almost deserves...then maybe THAT will light a fire under her when she sees that it's NOT just simple-headed hater-fans...but also respected tennis insiders who are openly laughing at her.If she has ANY pride at all,then she'll wanna prove them wrong

blueskye
May 27th, 2010, 07:46 PM
She just has no confidence in her game anymore, its like she doesnt believe in her ability to do well and that is translating onto the court. I remember her saying that her practices are actually better than her matches and part of the problem is that it doesnt translate onto match play when it actually matters. I can't even imaginge how frustrating that is. But still a lot of players deal with down periods and manage to regulate and control bad patches, so I still argue that this is mostly a mental thing!

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 08:01 PM
Ana's latest facebook update:
Ana Ivanovic I'm obviously extremely disappointed right now. Kleybanova played a great match and I have to give her a lot of credit - she almost didn't miss. I have a lot of hard work ahead of me, but then I already knew that before this match. Thanks for your messages of support this week.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 08:03 PM
Ana's latest facebook update:

That's okay.

But can I say it bothers me to no end how she keeps saying Kleybanova didn't miss? So what? I mean.. you can't wait for your opponent to miss so you can win.. you have to take the game and make the win. :o

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 08:10 PM
That's okay.

But can I say it bothers me to no end how she keeps saying Kleybanova didn't miss? So what? I mean.. you can't wait for your opponent to miss so you can win.. you have to take the game and make the win. :o

She is always giving her opponents way too much credit, imo. Now Kleybanova did play pretty well herself, but Ana can't let that make her think that she did nothing wrong. If she just keeps telling herself that she just got beat by a better player, well then that attitude will get her nowhere.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 08:23 PM
She is always giving her opponents way too much credit, imo. Now Kleybanova did play pretty well herself, but Ana can't let that make her think that she did nothing wrong. If she just keeps telling herself that she just got beat by a better player, well then that attitude will get her nowhere.

That's the thing.. she gives way too much credit.. and it's like she can't do a thing about it. That's why she doesn't even fight..

gloria7
May 27th, 2010, 08:25 PM
I'll try to forget about the past,she is just top 50 player to me.I wont allow myself to have high expectations ever again.
And,you are right Izzy...she doesn't get any support back from Peter Pan...

Peter Pan(Adam):Forget them,Wendy.Forget them all.Come with me where you'll never have
to worry about grown up things again.
Wendy(Ana):Never is an awfully long time.
Peter(Adam):Why do you have to spoil everything?We have fun,don't we?I taught you to fly
and to fight.What more could there be?
Wendy(Ana):There is so much more.I guess it becomes cleare when you grow up.
Peter(Adam):Well,i will not grow up.You cannot make me.I will banish you like Tinkerbell.
Wendy(Ana):I WILL NOT BE BANISHED.
Peter(Adam):Then go home.Go home and grow up.And take your feelings with you.

bruce goose
May 27th, 2010, 08:30 PM
Jelena nails this topic on twitter...

It's all on Ana anyway... losing the way she has been losing she has lost credibility.. and she needs to get her priorities straight. Putting the WAGing front stage has done her no good.. and she doesn't get any support back.. she should see what she really wants from her life and make a choice. Both just won't happen.It's not the same with all female players;in fact,very few....but for Ana,WAGging=More psychological enslavement by her puppetmaster...who doesn't give a sh-t about her mental health...just wants her to remain weak and easy to manipulate:help:

HowardH
May 27th, 2010, 09:25 PM
More of Wertheim:

jon_wertheim

couch time > court time.RT @Curtos07: If you were Ana Ivanovic, what would you be doing differently than what she is doing right now? 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

I can give 2 interpretations for this..

1 - He means she should go on court more. Like saying couch time should be court time.
2 - She should spend more time in the couch, meaning the office of a sports psychologist. Like saying couch time longer then court time.

:shrug:

I'm almost 100% sure that is what he means.

David is right, it's the second meaning. ">" here means "beats, trumps, is better than". "couch time > court time" means "couch time, ie spending time analysing herself and her game with say a sports psychologist or someone similar, would be better for Ana than more court time".

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:34 PM
David is right, it's the second meaning. ">" here means "beats, trumps, is better than". "couch time > court time" means "couch time, ie spending time analysing herself and her game with say a sports psychologist or someone similar, would be better for Ana than more court time".

He is probably right.. but I think Ana resists this idea like a rat runs from a cat.

gaviotabr
May 27th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Honestly guys.. do you still have faith?

We are entering the third year of Ana's slump. And I think it's a fair statement when I say 2008 slump is better than 2009 slump better than 2010 slump. She is going from low to low. And saying and acting the exact same way.

I think the only way out of this.. if there is any at all.. is for her to stop everything.. see what she wants from life.. and if that's to be a tennis champion, then live for it. Forget everything else, and breathe, eat and sleep tennis. Completely focus on it. Get her head in it and recommit.

Otherwise Ana might have to just settle for mediocrity until she decides to let it go. :sad:

azdaja
May 27th, 2010, 10:09 PM
Honestly guys.. do you still have faith?

We are entering the third year of Ana's slump. And I think it's a fair statement when I say 2008 slump is better than 2009 slump better than 2010 slump. She is going from low to low. And saying and acting the exact same way.

I think the only way out of this.. if there is any at all.. is for her to stop everything.. see what she wants from life.. and if that's to be a tennis champion, then live for it. Forget everything else, and breathe, eat and sleep tennis. Completely focus on it. Get her head in it and recommit.

Otherwise Ana might have to just settle for mediocrity until she decides to let it go. :sad:
i have to say i appreciate that you support ana with so much dedication and intensity :hug:

and do i have faith? i still do, i think, but i am not hoping to see an improvement all of a sudden. something is missing.

the thing that bothers me is that it seems that in the technical and physical aspects of her game seem to have gone backwards in addition to her going backwards mentally overall. there really are no positives to take.

bruce goose
May 27th, 2010, 10:33 PM
Honestly guys.. do you still have faith?
The BEST thing that came from RG,IMO,was Ana's offended reaction when the press brought up JJ's fistpump...if Ana had giggled and laughed that off,then I wouldn't have blamed you for making funeral arrangements.Honestly,I wanna see more of that...more of JJ,Wilander and other top figures in tennis laughing at Ana and making jokes about her.....If THAT'S what it takes to get her pissed-off at herself,then bring it on!She'll benefit from it in the long term

Curtos07
May 27th, 2010, 10:48 PM
Honestly guys.. do you still have faith?

We are entering the third year of Ana's slump. And I think it's a fair statement when I say 2008 slump is better than 2009 slump better than 2010 slump. She is going from low to low. And saying and acting the exact same way.

I think the only way out of this.. if there is any at all.. is for her to stop everything.. see what she wants from life.. and if that's to be a tennis champion, then live for it. Forget everything else, and breathe, eat and sleep tennis. Completely focus on it. Get her head in it and recommit.

Otherwise Ana might have to just settle for mediocrity until she decides to let it go. :sad:

Well, I consider myself a AnaKAD for life, so I guess I have to have a little bit of faith. Although, to be totally honest, it's very difficult at times. After Miami, I mentally accepted the fact that Ana was going to be just another average tennis player at best who will have a good tournament from time to time but be mediocore when compared to the lets say the top 20-25. But after Rome I started believing again and thought that she just might turn it around. Now I am back to where I was before.

What I am going to be most interested in is to see how she does in the 2nd half of the season after Wimbledon. Can she take advantage of the fact that she is defending absolutely nothing and make a steady rise in the rankings? Can she make a few deep runs like she did in Rome? How will she fare against the top players on the tour? Will she play in more smaller tournaments after the USO? Will she WAG as much as she did in the past? These will tell me if I should have any realistic hope about Ana for 2011 and beyond. This is so damn depressing. :sobbing:

Pops Maellard
May 27th, 2010, 11:52 PM
I went to bed when Ana was down a set and break but I wasn't expecting a fucking bagel. :sobbing:

Pops Maellard
May 27th, 2010, 11:56 PM
BTW I love what she said about JJ. :drool:

:worship:

Loungy
May 27th, 2010, 11:59 PM
Yeah I remember you said something last year.

"Ana is a top 50 level player untill she proves differently we should expect these results"

Now I agree :)
Yes. Someone should tell that to Ana, she still doesn't pick tournaments accordingly.

HowardH
May 28th, 2010, 12:08 AM
Ana can rise again. But she has to realise how she's really playing. Forget about saying that Kleybanova didn't miss anything, she played a great match. That's like saying she was unbeatable, there was no shame in losing to her. Kleybanova played a good match, probably at about top 15 level. But what level would Alisa need to have played at to lose to Ana today? I would guess at least outside top 40 level. Maybe more. I couldn't see the stream that clearly at the beginning and not at all in the second set, but I think Alisa would have needed to play a poor match for her standards, approaching top 50 level, in order to lose. Ana needs to realise that.

The other option is that Ana has some kind of miracle flukey run in Wimb or USO. The odds against it are pretty big, but if she can just run into a string of players who play horribly and gift the matches to her... The funny thing would be if she then slumped immediately afterwards again, which is actually probably quite likely :tape:.

gaviotabr
May 28th, 2010, 01:44 AM
Well, I consider myself a AnaKAD for life, so I guess I have to have a little bit of faith. Although, to be totally honest, it's very difficult at times. After Miami, I mentally accepted the fact that Ana was going to be just another average tennis player at best who will have a good tournament from time to time but be mediocore when compared to the lets say the top 20-25. But after Rome I started believing again and thought that she just might turn it around. Now I am back to where I was before.

What I am going to be most interested in is to see how she does in the 2nd half of the season after Wimbledon. Can she take advantage of the fact that she is defending absolutely nothing and make a steady rise in the rankings? Can she make a few deep runs like she did in Rome? How will she fare against the top players on the tour? Will she play in more smaller tournaments after the USO? Will she WAG as much as she did in the past? These will tell me if I should have any realistic hope about Ana for 2011 and beyond. This is so damn depressing. :sobbing:

This season is over.. but it will be telling how she reacts in the coming months.

I'm also an Ana fan for life.. but I think I'll be rooting for her to lose early in every tournament until the end of the year. Maybe then she will realize the problem is not the people around her, the problem is herself. Seeing how such a great coach like Heinz could do nothing to help her may just make her see that she needs to change her approach to the game, change inside. It might cost Heinz his job, but hey.. if she doesn't change, she won't be getting results anyway, so it doesn't matter.