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renstar
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:29 AM
I personally Vote For Chris Evert since she first came up with it and popularised it for generations to come and it was one remarkably accurate shot, but theres been many variations , and Kim Clijsters is my favourite one now

slnbb
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:40 AM
no jie ?
WS's dad once commented jie's bh is as good as his girls

So Disrespectful
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:48 AM
I personally Vote For Chris Evert since she first came up with it and popularised it for generations to come and it was one remarkably accurate shot, but theres been many variations , and Kim Clijsters is my favourite one now

Chris' father came up with it, she just stuck with it because it was easier for her.

Serena's is the best, in my opinion.

Bobisa
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:03 PM
HEEJPQDBKIc

duhcity
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:04 PM
Andy Roddick.

Certinfy
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:09 PM
Andy Roddick.
Na, John Isner's :rocker2:

Break My Rapture
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Serena, Venus and Maria's.
I would also like to add Vika's but it's not in the poll options.

Mikey.
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:17 PM
HEEJPQDBKIc

:inlove:

JJ Expres
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:18 PM
Maria and JJ.

So Disrespectful
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:18 PM
HEEJPQDBKIc

:hearts: :inlove: :hearts:

madmax
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:20 PM
Masha's:bowdown:

osseous
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Maria's and Venus'.

Pheobo
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:23 PM
If you keep it relative to the generation of players and the damage it was able to do to them, it would be Chris Evert hands down.

DragonFlame
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:29 PM
I actually like almost all of those! :D

vwfan
Mar 27th, 2010, 12:33 PM
Venus' backhand was deadly. We saw glimpses of the damage it can cause in the Dubai final: takes no prisoners.:worship:

JJ, Maria also have great backhands.

MechWarrior2k
Mar 27th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Oh come on. Safina's BH >>> Woz's. Li's, Azarenka's, Zvonareva's also way better than Woz's. Where's Davenport who only has one of the BEST ever? Yet you have Clijsters' on this list? This poll fails.

MBM
Mar 27th, 2010, 03:35 PM
NO WAY is Serena's the best. Her bh goes to shit all too often, even when the rest of her game is still working. She just doesnt seem to have the best bh technique, and she doesnt always connect. I would compare her bh to Vee's fh: when its on its deadly, but it just isnt on often enough!!

But when Vee hits that acute angle bhcc, it's like magic! She feels that shot so well and it either gets her the point directly, allows an easy volley (or a chance to see her at full span at the net, should her opponent get to it), or a fh/bh into the open court. I can't remember a match when she couldn't use that as her second biggest weapon next to her first serve.

Uranium
Mar 27th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Venus', Serena's, Seles' and Hingis' backhands:hearts:

doktor
Mar 27th, 2010, 03:53 PM
i think seles was able to attack the best with hers, she could take the ball earlier and do more damage than with her forehand...

GracefulVenus
Mar 27th, 2010, 03:54 PM
Tough Poll, but I have to go with Venus on this one also. I watch the Wimbledon SF in 2000 against Serena I think man was that back-hand lethal. Hitting inside out at will. Also like Maria and Jelena's two-handers.

cowking
Mar 27th, 2010, 03:54 PM
When Sharapova was playing well, her backhand was incredible. I remember her hitting some ridiculous shots against Henin at the 2008 Australian Open. Venus consistently has the best double-hander I think.

Sund7101
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:14 PM
Evert. She could hit a dime with that shot.

hingisGOAT
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:22 PM
Shameful that players like Sharapova are getting votes for "best ever backhand," just ridiculous.

Hingis has the best backhand on that list, she could hit any shot from any position and made like 1 bh error per set, no one comes close to that except Evert

Zojirushi
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:34 PM
I really love Monica's backhand:hearts:

Venus & JJ also great

SoClose
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:36 PM
1.Venus
2.Sharapova
3.Serena

SoClose
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Shameful that players like Sharapova are getting votes for "best ever backhand," just ridiculous.

Hingis has the best backhand on that list, she could hit any shot from any position and made like 1 bh error per set, no one comes close to that except Evert

Yup, and like 1 winner too :P

hingisGOAT
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:40 PM
Yup, and like 1 winner too :P

Yeah like when Venus played in RG final, one bh winner in 21 games :bowdown:

ps go look up "hingis williams" on youtube, it is clear that hingis pinned them on their backhand side :drool:

SoClose
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:42 PM
Yeah like when Venus played in RG final, one bh winner in 21 games :bowdown:

ps go look up "hingis williams" on youtube, it is clear that hingis pinned them on their backhand side :drool:

Well, obviously you are blind :P

SoClose
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:43 PM
Ahhh..... and now I see that we have Wozniacki :?????????????????????????????but not Davenport.....Lindsay has one of the best backhands not only two handed

shap_half
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Davenport and Myskina aren't on the list?!?!?! But Wozniacki's is?

Chakvenus
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:45 PM
Venus, Evert, and Jankovic.

darrinbaker00
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:47 PM
1. Chris Evert
2. Everybody else

sfan
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:48 PM
Serena and Venus have good backhands, but they are bit out of their depth in the company of Hingis/Jankovic/Sharapova/Evert as far as backhands are concerned. I would prefer even Seles/kim's BH over the Williams.

Out of all the people mentioned in the poll, I pick Peak Pova's GOAT backhand :bowdown:

auntie janie
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Lindsay Davenport

frenchie
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Venus BH was the best during 2000-2003!

Phenomenal weapon : power, accuracy and precision
Her DTL was particularely awesome

Sexysova
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:50 PM
Venus' for sure

MechWarrior2k
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:57 PM
Lindsay Davenport

Definitely one of the best ever

sfan
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:57 PM
Serena and Venus have good backhands, but they are bit out of their depth in the company of Hingis/Jankovic/Sharapova/Evert as far as backhands are concerned. I would prefer even Seles/kim's BH over the Williams.

Out of all the people mentioned in the poll, I pick Peak Pova's GOAT backhand :bowdown:

I can think of so many active players who have a bigger backhand than Serena/Venus. Like Rezai, Szavay, Masha, Azarenka, Jankovic, Li Na, Kim even Jie :)

And I dont get why Wozniacki is even in the discussion :confused:

Olórin
Mar 27th, 2010, 04:58 PM
Wozniacki in the poll but no Davenport? And Jankovic doesn't really belong there either. Sharapova's bh was in this league in 2005 and 2006, but since then it's been a gradually deteriorating shot. She just doesn't get the width, depth or create the angles she once did on that wing.

Definitely Chris, Venus then probably Hingis, Davenport, Serena and Seles.

Then we can start talking about the Sharapovas, the Kims, the Austins and even the Jankovics.

Olórin
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:01 PM
I can think of so many active players who have a bigger backhand than Serena/Venus. Like Rezai, Szavay, Masha, Azarenka, Jankovic, Li Na, Kim even Jie :)

And I dont get why Wozniacki is even in the discussion :confused:

Do you have the faintest clue what you're talking about? Sure Venus' BH may not be what it was, but it's still a powerful weapon and you're saying the likes of Rezai and Sazavay have more deadly ones? The ability to hit 10 errors and 5 winners off a wing per a match does not automatically make it a great strength.

You have to take into consideration that for about two years (2000/2001) Venus' BH was the biggest weapon in existence on the WTA Tour. She just hit so many winners off it - Venus was just all about winners back then and 2/3 would always come from her BH. Even since then it is still one of the bigger weapons even though it's not the super weapon it once was.

brent-o
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Serena's backhand never impressed me that much. Sure, she can smack winners. But she rarely goes for fine angles, so it's really not that versatile. For me, the best backhands are Evert (in an age of wooden rackets, her winners and the crazy angles she finds still impress me today), Hingis (she took it so early and had perfect control), and Jankovic (nobody, and I mean nobody, in the women's game right now hits an inside-out backhand so consistently and beautifully as she does).

Basically, if I had to pick one to have, I'd take Jelena's.

changel
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:02 PM
Maria Sharapova. Best 2 handed BH ever.

Olórin
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:07 PM
Serena's backhand never impressed me that much. Sure, she can smack winners. But she rarely goes for fine angles, so it's really not that versatile. For me, the best backhands are Evert (in an age of wooden rackets, her winners and the crazy angles she finds still impress me today), Hingis (she took it so early and had perfect control), and Jankovic (nobody, and I mean nobody, in the women's game right now hits an inside-out backhand so consistently and beautifully as she does).

Basically, if I had to pick one to have, I'd take Jelena's.

Part of what her backhand is about is setting up the forehand - so I think it is an important and versatile shot in that sense.

Sylvester
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:09 PM
On her peak, Sharapova's CC BH was ridiculously good. Almost as good as peak Venus and peak Davenport. Speaking of hard hitters, if she keeps improving, Kleybanova's BH may become a reference in a couple of years.

In terms of GOAT, it's a close race between Evert and Hingis. I'll pick Hingis because she could hit that shot and make it look that she was using a remote control! :lol:

Gdsimmons
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Some of these names don't belong. Wozniacki?? In the same list as Ms Evert?? No sir.
I voted Serena. But Seles forehand was beast as well.

Optima
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Some of Maria's and Venus's crosscourt backhands are just :bolt: For me, anyway.

MistyGrey
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:41 PM
Evert's.
Why are Pierce and Davenport not on the list??

le bon vivant
Mar 27th, 2010, 05:53 PM
NO WAY is Serena's the best. Her bh goes to shit all too often, even when the rest of her game is still working. She just doesnt seem to have the best bh technique, and she doesnt always connect. I would compare her bh to Vee's fh: when its on its deadly, but it just isnt on often enough!!

But when Vee hits that acute angle bhcc, it's like magic! She feels that shot so well and it either gets her the point directly, allows an easy volley (or a chance to see her at full span at the net, should her opponent get to it), or a fh/bh into the open court. I can't remember a match when she couldn't use that as her second biggest weapon next to her first serve.Ridiculous assessment. Serena's backhand hasnt been inconsistent since 2007, and that had more to do with her movement to her backhand side and footwork than the actual stroke. Serena hits her backhand definitely more conservatively than other players whose dominant shot is their backhand, but her technique and consistency on the backhand side is solid and her backhand is a consistent weapon. Her forehand goes awry before her backhand does.

Petkorazzi
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Ridiculous assessment. Serena's backhand hasnt been inconsistent since 2007, and that had more to do with her movement to her backhand side and footwork than the actual stroke. Serena hits her backhand definitely more conservatively than other players whose dominant shot is their backhand, but her technique and consistency on the backhand side is solid and her backhand is a consistent weapon. Her forehand goes awry before her backhand does.
Yeah, and Serena says herself that after the serve, her best shot is the backhand.

shap_half
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Evert's.
Why are Pierce and Davenport not on the list??

I forgot Pierce's massive bh, too. But a case should definitely be made for Myskina to at least make the list. It may not always be the most powerful, but the way she harnessed her opponents' power to capitalize on her ability to change the direction of the ball is amazing. Her DTL BH is still among the best of this generation.

MBM
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Ridiculous assessment. Serena's backhand hasnt been inconsistent since 2007, and that had more to do with her movement to her backhand side and footwork than the actual stroke. Serena hits her backhand definitely more conservatively than other players whose dominant shot is their backhand, but her technique and consistency on the backhand side is solid and her backhand is a consistent weapon. Her forehand goes awry before her backhand does.

Meh. Clearly, I don't agree :drool:

Rex59
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:33 PM
Lindsay, followed by Venus, then Jie. Seles was great. Dokic is not bad, provided she keeps same on the court.

friendsita
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:34 PM
I like V's

le bon vivant
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:45 PM
Meh. Clearly, I don't agree :drool:Serena's backhand is soooooooooo not jank like Venus' forehand. :rain:
Reference every Grand Slam championship point shes won since the AO 2005 :drool:

slamchamp
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:46 PM
Maria's when on is a thunder

Julian.
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Maria Sharapova

VishaalMaria
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:51 PM
I like Venus' because she can generate so much power and angle with a compact stroke.

Maria's is too swingy!

dybbuk
Mar 27th, 2010, 06:52 PM
I voted for Martina.

Myskina's may not be the greatest backhand, but it is my favourite. A very aesthetically pleasing shot.

Andrew Laeddis
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:02 PM
:help: @ 26% of the people who voted thinking Jankovic has the best 2 hander of all time.

Bobisa
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:07 PM
:help: @ 26% of the people who voted thinking Jankovic has the best 2 hander of all time.
so what?

Ferg
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:13 PM
I wonder what the results would be if everyone was neutral.

PLP
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:16 PM
How do JJ and Masha have more votes than Evert and Hingis??
:banghead::banghead::banghead:
:smash:

K, I voted for Martina but Evert was the best. I just think Martina could do more with hers than anyone else. It's not all about DTL winners.

Volcana
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Chris Evert. Her power and especially accuracy, given wooden rackets. Compare any player against her peers, and Evert is way, WAY ahead.

Andrew Laeddis
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:19 PM
I'm a Caro fan but how did she even make the poll?

silyaunWILLIAMS
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:19 PM
Venus, by a mile. That backhand owns.

Shinjiro
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:32 PM
Evert, Seles, Hingis.

MechWarrior2k
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:32 PM
I'm a Caro fan but how did she even make the poll?

I could have made a better poll in less than a minute. Everyone has their opinions though...

MBM
Mar 27th, 2010, 07:47 PM
Serena's backhand is soooooooooo not jank like Venus' forehand. :rain:
Reference every Grand Slam championship point shes won since the AO 2005 :drool:

WOW! I'm convinced! :rolleyes:

I never said they are equally volatile (clearly Venus's fh is the more inconsistent), just that like Venus's fh screws her when its not on, Serena's bh does the same for her, and I personally believe she doesnt have as solid a technique as Venus does, or as she herself does on her fh or serve.

And if Serena is winning a championship point, I am pretty sure it is an occasion when her bh as done just fine... but as you are being picky, what happened on championship point at Wimbledon 2008? :angel:

SerenaSlam
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:16 PM
this poll is who's backhand is the best. when i think about best i think about player vs player who's backhand is going t win. not who has a better variety etc because your variety doesn't matter when a better backhand blows u off the court and u don't get to show that variety winning u points. i go with venus followed by serena. no bias theirs just outshines most backhand to backhand rally....

égalité
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:23 PM
*dead* at wozniacki being in the poll.

I voted for Monica because I like hers the best :inlove:

But Evert is the real answer.

The Daviator
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:27 PM
Clijsters and Wozniacki, but no Davenport :o

Tennisation
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Why is this even a poll? Just call it the "my fave has the best backhand" thread, as it often is with everything else up for discussion

Pops Maellard
Mar 27th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Edina Gallovits. :secret:

Nah in all seriousness I voted Venus. Her backhand at its peak would beat everyone's. :kiss:

renstar
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Oh come on. Safina's BH >>> Woz's. Li's, Azarenka's, Zvonareva's also way better than Woz's. Where's Davenport who only has one of the BEST ever? Yet you have Clijsters' on this list? This poll fails.

OH My bad, definately Davenport shoulda been included, it was late and i was tired:rolleyes:

In The Zone
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:39 PM
this poll is who's backhand is the best. when i think about best i think about player vs player who's backhand is going t win. not who has a better variety etc because your variety doesn't matter when a better backhand blows u off the court and u don't get to show that variety winning u points. i go with venus followed by serena. no bias theirs just outshines most backhand to backhand rally....

100% Correct. When we have discussions like these, people tend to give too much credit for variety, etc. If something is the best, it's the best regardless of the other characteristics. It's like when Navratilova said "Henin should be the best player on grass, but Venus is right now." Why? Because Henin can play pretty tennis? Venus will tear you off the court on a grass court.

Evert, Venus (pre-2003 ab injury), Davenport.

Since Venus' return from the ab injury, every stroke of hers has changed. If you watch a match from before 2003, it's like watching a different player. Even her serve has a slight modification to it. Unfortunately, her backhand has become less of a weapon than it was pre-2003 when it was absolutely lethal and accurate. I remember watching the USO 2001 SF vs. Capriati and Venus hit a backhand down the line into the corner which Jen retrieved and Venus hit it right to the same spot again. Jen didn't even move from the shot before and couldn't get to it. That's how incredible her backhand used to be. In Dubai of this year, though, Venus looked to be getting some lethal form on her backhand yet. Two of those passes against Azarenka in the final were astonishing.

3:40 is the point I am referring to which of course the tape skips during the first backhand. :o
9IYTQzarGGk


Davenport's backhand is underrated simply because Davenport's game was quiet and clean. Her backhand is definitely one of the best.

Evert won't get enough votes due to the age of posters on here and a skewing towards recent results.

Midnight_Robber
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:42 PM
I voted for Venus though it was a toss-up between her and Monica. Venus got the nod though, not only because of her amazing bh dtl on the run, but because of her bh overhead inside out volley.

Agree though that some of the inclusions/exclusions on this poll are pretty questionable...

fufuqifuqishahah
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:46 PM
JELENA's DTL backhand is so accurate and seems to come out of nowhere considering the rest of her game

Evert revolutionized the importance of the 2 handed bh basically so she has to get some credit

peculiar inclusion of Caroline when one could have included at least another GS champion or #1 player with a good backhand such as Davenport (especially), Pierce, Ivanovic, Myskina, or Safina or even backhands of part-time 2 handers such as Kuznetsova and Capriati would have been better; maybe even Dementieva

ivanban
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:51 PM
:confused: Stosur isn't in this poll?!!!

Ivana*jj fan
Mar 27th, 2010, 10:58 PM
Jelena Jankovic :P

le bon vivant
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:03 PM
100% Correct. When we have discussions like these, people tend to give too much credit for variety, etc. If something is the best, it's the best regardless of the other characteristics. It's like when Navratilova said "Henin should be the best player on grass, but Venus is right now." Why? Because Henin can play pretty tennis? Venus will tear you off the court on a grass court.

Evert, Venus (pre-2003 ab injury), Davenport.

Since Venus' return from the ab injury, every stroke of hers has changed. If you watch a match from before 2003, it's like watching a different player. Even her serve has a slight modification to it. Unfortunately, her backhand has become less of a weapon than it was pre-2003 when it was absolutely lethal and accurate. I remember watching the USO 2001 SF vs. Capriati and Venus hit a backhand down the line into the corner which Jen retrieved and Venus hit it right to the same spot again. Jen didn't even move from the shot before and couldn't get to it. That's how incredible her backhand used to be. In Dubai of this year, though, Venus looked to be getting some lethal form on her backhand yet. Two of those passes against Azarenka in the final were astonishing.

3:40 is the point I am referring to which of course the tape skips during the first backhand. :o
9IYTQzarGGk


Davenport's backhand is underrated simply because Davenport's game was quiet and clean. Her backhand is definitely one of the best.

Evert won't get enough votes due to the age of posters on here and a skewing towards recent results.

Ugh I wish Serena was as patient as Venus when playing Jennifer
Venus would toy with her and then just unload :lol::lol:

Nicolás89
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:08 PM
I think Venus' open stance backhand is one of the best shots in history, also I don't think I'm saying it properly in english but the way she hits the inverted backhand(?) is one of a kind. I voted for Hingis' though lol.

MBM
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:11 PM
I think Venus' open stance backhand is one of the best shots in history, also I don't think I'm saying it properly in english but the way she hits the inverted backhand(?) is one of a kind. I voted for Hingis' though lol.

Inside-out ;) but some people say inverted. We all know what you meant!

Caralenko
Mar 27th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Venus Inside Out Backhand winner on MP at Wimbledon 2005 :)

vwfan
Mar 28th, 2010, 12:15 AM
100% Correct. When we have discussions like these, people tend to give too much credit for variety, etc. If something is the best, it's the best regardless of the other characteristics. It's like when Navratilova said "Henin should be the best player on grass, but Venus is right now." Why? Because Henin can play pretty tennis? Venus will tear you off the court on a grass court.

Evert, Venus (pre-2003 ab injury), Davenport.

Since Venus' return from the ab injury, every stroke of hers has changed. If you watch a match from before 2003, it's like watching a different player. Even her serve has a slight modification to it. Unfortunately, her backhand has become less of a weapon than it was pre-2003 when it was absolutely lethal and accurate. I remember watching the USO 2001 SF vs. Capriati and Venus hit a backhand down the line into the corner which Jen retrieved and Venus hit it right to the same spot again. Jen didn't even move from the shot before and couldn't get to it. That's how incredible her backhand used to be. In Dubai of this year, though, Venus looked to be getting some lethal form on her backhand yet. Two of those passes against Azarenka in the final were astonishing.

3:40 is the point I am referring to which of course the tape skips during the first backhand. :o
9IYTQzarGGk


Davenport's backhand is underrated simply because Davenport's game was quiet and clean. Her backhand is definitely one of the best.

Evert won't get enough votes due to the age of posters on here and a skewing towards recent results.That was just a vintage Venus Williams beatdown from back in the day. The way she moved on the court just said CONFIDENCE. Would love to see that back! :worship:

LeonHart
Mar 28th, 2010, 12:17 AM
Martina Hingis!

Chrissie-fan
Mar 28th, 2010, 12:58 AM
Chris Evert of course

Midnight_Robber
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:01 AM
JELENA's DTL backhand is so accurate and seems to come out of nowhere considering the rest of her game

Evert revolutionized the importance of the 2 handed bh basically so she has to get some credit

peculiar inclusion of Caroline when one could have included at least another GS champion or #1 player with a good backhand such as Davenport (especially), Pierce, Ivanovic, Myskina, or Safina or even backhands of part-time 2 handers such as Kuznetsova and Capriati would have been better; maybe even Dementieva

I agree about Evert's pioneering role, but the poll is about which 2-handed bh is best - not who did it first (though I know that Chris being the first doesn't rule her out from having the best 2-handed bh overall.)

Totally agree that JJs dtl bh is very accurate and consistent and that it is the standout shot in relation to the rest of her game. She relies on manouevering her opponent out of position as well as being very careful about her own court positioning. Jelena needs to be on the baseline and directly in front of the line before she lines up her shot and hits it. She really needs to set up for it. This is very different to producing a dtl bh (or an equivalent), when you're completely out of position to do so - the type of phenom, "out of nowhere" bh that causes you to rewind the tape.

JJ's whole process is very tactical, methodical, and orthodox - and I enjoy watching it. But I've never watched her hit one of her carefully constructed bh dtl and thought "damn! where did that come from?" Or "How the hell did she do that."

ETA: Ivanovic is all about an amazing forehand. Her backhand doesn't stand up to the likes of Capriati, Pierce or Davenport. Not even close.

Chrissie-fan
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:01 AM
Evert won't get enough votes due to the age of posters on here and a skewing towards recent results.


Which is why "best ever" polls are most of the time really "best of the last ten years" polls.

ivanban
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:13 AM
I agree about Evert's pioneering role, but the poll is about which 2-handed bh is best - not who did it first (though I know that Chris being the first doesn't rule her out from having the best 2-handed bh overall.)

Totally agree that JJs dtl bh is very accurate and consistent and that it is the standout shot in relation to the rest of her game. She relies on manouevering her opponent out of position as well as being very careful about her own court positioning. Jelena needs to be on the baseline and directly in front of the line before she lines up her shot and hits it. She really needs to set up for it. This is very different to producing a dtl bh (or an equivalent), when you're completely out of position to do so - the type of phenom, "out of nowhere" bh that causes you to rewind the tape.

JJ's whole process is very tactical, methodical, and orthodox - and I enjoy watching it. But I've never watched her hit one of her carefully constructed bh dtl and thought "damn! where did that come from?" Or "How the hell did she do that."

ETA: Ivanovic is all about an amazing forehand. Her backhand doesn't stand up to the likes of Capriati, Pierce or Davenport. Not even close.

Maybe you don't watch many of her matches (though, there wasn't much to watch in last year or so :tape: ) cause she quite often has shots like this one at 1:28 :p

hJ3aaa4aUfQ

Lindsayfan32
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:15 AM
The best ever two handed backhand isn't on your list. Lindsay Davenport's two hander beats everyone on your list. It generated a lot of power with very little effort and when it was on you didn't go there as it would beat you everytime.

ivanban
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:20 AM
The best ever two handed backhand isn't on your list. Lindsay Davenport's two hander beats everyone on your list. It generated a lot of power with very little effort and when it was on you didn't go there as it would beat you everytime.

Apparently Caro's amazing success in last year or so pushed her into this list instead of Lindz :tears:

brickhousesupporter
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:23 AM
Why are people saying that Chris Evert was the first to hit a 2 hand backhand.........Connors was hitting that shot way before she did. Chrissie's father did not invent the shot. It was a public court shot that gave the novices more control.......it was seen as a lesser shot.

treufreund
Mar 28th, 2010, 01:24 AM
Marion Bartoli ;) No, seriously, I think Hingis had the most versatility and precision, Venus the most athleticism/power and Evert the best consistency overall.. Evert played with different technology so it's hard to say but I think she is one of the best for sure. I voted for Hingis because of her great balance on that side and her consistent ability to take it on the rise and still produce good topspin and angles.

DefyingGravity
Mar 28th, 2010, 03:09 AM
Venus when she was racking up Slam after Slam after Slam.

Jedna je Jelena
Mar 28th, 2010, 04:35 AM
Well,I would pick JJ and Venus.. Their bh's look so natural..

PlayByPlay
Mar 28th, 2010, 04:42 AM
Serena I would say.

Havok
Mar 28th, 2010, 04:54 AM
The first three ladies in the poll, in that very order as well. Venus also had a mean backhand, but when a shot that good regresses and turns to shit, I'm sorry but I just can't call it one of the best backhands ever if it only existed for 3-4 seasons. Much like Roddick's forehand which went missing ever since 2005.:o

Of the current crop, it's easily Jankovic. That video is hilarious, JJ style.:bigcry::haha::haha:

GracefulVenus
Mar 28th, 2010, 05:43 AM
Oh crap, Lindsay should be on this list. Didn't see that she wasn't before.

renstar
Mar 28th, 2010, 07:52 AM
The best ever two handed backhand isn't on your list. Lindsay Davenport's two hander beats everyone on your list. It generated a lot of power with very little effort and when it was on you didn't go there as it would beat you everytime.

Yes Yes many apologies if i could do it again id get rid of Austin and Wozniacki and substitute for Davenport and Capriati, i chose ten options and had a brain freeze at the end....... and couldnt edit.

Your right Davenport had one one of the best 2 handers, used to love Lindsay, sorry Lindz for not including u:rolleyes:

changel
Mar 28th, 2010, 08:01 AM
JJ's BH definitely lacks power compared to Sharapova's one or Venus' one. She can't hit CC BH with great power, but she can control rallies with her BH very nicely compared to Venus.

Chrissie-fan
Mar 28th, 2010, 08:38 AM
Why are people saying that Chris Evert was the first to hit a 2 hand backhand.........Connors was hitting that shot way before she did. Chrissie's father did not invent the shot. It was a public court shot that gave the novices more control.......it was seen as a lesser shot.
Evert was still a little girl when she learned to play tennis. The reason that she used a two handed backhand is that she physically wasn't strong enough to hit it one handed. When her dad saw that it developed into an effective shot he didn't bother trying to force her hitting it one handed. Since both started playing on the tour at approximately the same time I don't know why you think that Connors used the two handed backhand years before Chris did.

samsam4087
Mar 28th, 2010, 08:57 AM
Chris Evert

cherboy
Mar 28th, 2010, 10:00 AM
MARY PIERCE and LINDSAY DAVENPORT

vwfan
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:23 PM
JJ's BH definitely lacks power compared to Sharapova's one or Venus' one. She can't hit CC BH with great power, but she can control rallies with her BH very nicely compared to Venus.Venus doesn't need to control rallies, because when she hits her backhand: it's point ova!

still JJ has an impressive bh, but Venus in her heyday edges it.

madmax
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Jankovic having more votes than Sharapova...:haha: Trully an unbiased poll, that's for sure

brickhousesupporter
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:42 PM
Evert was still a little girl when she learned to play tennis. The reason that she used a two handed backhand is that she physically wasn't strong enough to hit it one handed. When her dad saw that it developed into an effective shot he didn't bother trying to force her hitting it one handed. Since both started playing on the tour at approximately the same time I don't know why you think that Connors used the two handed backhand years before Chris did.

First Jimmy is a couple years older than Chris.......he also started playing tennis at a young age........he came on tour with a two hand backhand.......he was not a student of Chrissie's father. How could her father invent a stroke that was also being used by another player. Also, I said that the stroke was a public court stroke (a hackers stroke) because it was not as elegant and graceful as the one hand backhand. It was being used before Chis and Jimmy.
Think of the development of the 2 hand backhand as a case of convergent evolution, in which non related tennis players develop the same stroke because it was evolutionarily advantageous.

doktor
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:47 PM
how can venus's backhand be up there when it peaked for like 4 years max (and don't lie, we haven't seen the best of venus's backhand in at least 6 years) and seles's not when it was an unbelievable and consistently unbelievable stroke for at least 15 years?

Mackep83
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:48 PM
Well...as a weapon I guess its Venus, overall, I would say Hingis.

Mackep83
Mar 28th, 2010, 02:51 PM
First Jimmy is a couple years older than Chris.......he also started playing tennis at a young age........he came on tour with a two hand backhand.......he was not a student of Chrissie's father. How could her father invent a stroke that was also being used by another player. Also, I said that the stroke was a public court stroke (a hackers stroke) because it was not as elegant and graceful as the one hand backhand. It was being used before Chis and Jimmy.
Think of the development of the 2 hand backhand as a case of convergent evolution, in which non related tennis players develop the same stroke because it was evolutionarily advantageous.

The first players with two handed backhands played in the 30's??, if you count them..

doktor
Mar 28th, 2010, 03:01 PM
sorry guys, i don't mean to underestimate Venus's backhand, cause believe me i would rate it as the second best backhand of all time not only because of its attack but its defence, but i think (IMO) that over the years Seles's backhand was her biggest weapon, she could attack so much stronger off her backhand wing than her forehand and i think that her backhand won her a lot of matches at the end of her career, just look at her v clijsters in miami in '02 m( i think)...

sweetpeas
Mar 28th, 2010, 03:05 PM
Venus,no doubt!

LDVTennis
Mar 28th, 2010, 05:38 PM
Evert was still a little girl when she learned to play tennis. The reason that she used a two handed backhand is that she physically wasn't strong enough to hit it one handed. When her dad saw that it developed into an effective shot he didn't bother trying to force her hitting it one handed. Since both started playing on the tour at approximately the same time I don't know why you think that Connors used the two handed backhand years before Chris did.

+1... They are not even the same shot based on the racquet work. Connors slaps or punches at the ball. With Chris, it was a complete stroke, finishing with that elegant turnout of the shoulders.

Today's two-handers aren't like Chris's backhand at all; they are more like Connors, lots of slapping and punching at the ball with most of the direction coming from the action of the left hand.

It takes a lot of talent to hit the two-hander like Chris; the last two female players who even came close were Maggie Maleeva and Jennifer Capriati.

Chrissie-fan
Mar 28th, 2010, 05:44 PM
First Jimmy is a couple years older than Chris.......he also started playing tennis at a young age........he came on tour with a two hand backhand.......he was not a student of Chrissie's father. How could her father invent a stroke that was also being used by another player. Also, I said that the stroke was a public court stroke (a hackers stroke) because it was not as elegant and graceful as the one hand backhand. It was being used before Chis and Jimmy.
Think of the development of the 2 hand backhand as a case of convergent evolution, in which non related tennis players develop the same stroke because it was evolutionarily advantageous.
Well, I never said that Evert, her dad or Connors for that matter 'invented' the stroke.

The Dawntreader
Mar 28th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Hingis's BHDTL was a pioneering shot when she burst onto the scene in the late 90's, able to change direction at will, and completely change the rythmic structure of tennis matches. Players who were not used to this (Graf, Seles etc), were forced to respond accordingly. Venus Williams in her heyday took the BHDTL and maximised the effect, with accuracy AND power. It became an elevated shot. Unfortunately, Venus hitting with that kind of fluency off the backhand has become a novelty in recent years.

I'd probably go with Hingis/Davenport/Venus Williams.

vwfan
Mar 28th, 2010, 05:56 PM
sorry guys, i don't mean to underestimate Venus's backhand, cause believe me i would rate it as the second best backhand of all time not only because of its attack but its defence, but i think (IMO) that over the years Seles's backhand was her biggest weapon, she could attack so much stronger off her backhand wing than her forehand and i think that her backhand won her a lot of matches at the end of her career, just look at her v clijsters in miami in '02 m( i think)...loved Seles before Venus. :cool:

but as a weapon Venus bh > Seles bh.

look at their h2h, it will give you a bit of an insight.

Direwolf
Mar 28th, 2010, 06:27 PM
Just watch Venus Williams backhand in Dubai vs Azarenka...

choi15
Mar 28th, 2010, 08:46 PM
hmm...

According to this site: http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/tennis/tennis.html - It's between Venus/Seles/Chris/Hingis...

So...I decided to do some extensive research...

Conclusion:

Venus :bounce:

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P.S According to this MOST accurate site (if you disagree, you're a HATER :angel:), Sabatini also deserves a mention :fiery:

:lol::lol:

Oh and P.S.S: s dokici, kournikova, and Date Kimiko, but no henin and serena :tape: