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sfan
Mar 23rd, 2010, 11:29 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-1259493/Monica-Seles-Why-I-believe-Serena-Williams-The-Greatest.html

Monica Seles [Serena's idol]: Why I believe Serena Williams will be The Greatest


Monica Seles believes Serena Williams can become the greatest women's tennis player of all time by beating Margaret Court's incredible record of 24 Grand Slam titles.

While Williams, at 28, is only halfway to that total, Seles, the former world No 1 and winner of nine Grand Slam titles herself, insists that the achievement is still not beyond her.

'If Serena can stay fit she'll beat all the records, ' said Seles after Williams became Sportswoman of the Year at the Laureus World Sports Awards.

'I appreciate she's got a bit to go yet, but really think she'll do it because she has the potential to be the greatest player of all time. Serena now possesses every attribute required to be the best, and to stay the best.

'She has a great serve, a sweet return, fantastic movement and all this is combined with awesome power. As if this is not enough, no player comes close to being as mentally strong as her.'

To beat the Grand Slam record of Australian legend Court, Williams would have to increase her annual tally of titles considerably.

Since the 'Serena Slam' of 2002-2003, during which she won an incredible five titles, injuries and erratic form have restricted her Grand Slam wins to six in seven years

But Seles is adamant that -despite the evidence of her abusive outburst against a line judge at last year's US Open, for which she received a suspended three-year ban from the tournament - Williams has matured professionally and personally.
Monica Seles


'We all know that Serena has had some difficult moments, especially the passing of her older sister, as well as some injury and motivational problems,' said Seles.

'But she has proved how tough she is to bounce back in such style when everyone seemed to have written her off.

'Now I believe she's matured as a woman and has a balanced life.

'She used to be criticised before for not committing every single minute of the day to tennis, but believe her other interests have kept her mentally fresh and her love for the game intact.'

Williams won two Slams last year, including her third Wimbledon title, and started 2010 by winning the Australian Open in emphatic style.

Seles believes that not even the return from retirement of the two Belgians, Justine Henin and Kim Clijsters, will stop the American from dominating the women's game.

'I reckon Serena's playing her best tennis ever right now,' said Seles. 'She seems to have moved up a gear. She's moved on.

'You can't really make comparisons with previous eras, but it's hard to see any of the greats living with Serena when she's playing as well as she did in the Australian Open. '

Seles could well have doubled her own tally of major titles, such was her dominance of the women's game in the early Nineties. But her career was derailed by the knife attack on her by an obsessive fan, and her subsequent depression saw her become addicted to food and her weight balloon.

'I was No1 in the world, then a terrible thing happened to me and the stabbing, together with my father battling with cancer, made me very depressed,' she said.

'That was when I turned to food and suddenly was carrying an extra 40lb of weight.

'It was only when stopped playing tennis that was able to deal with my addiction.

'I'm not one to ask "what if?" The truth is I'll never know what might have happened. What I do know is that I'd won eight Grand Slams before was even 20 years old, so it's reasonable to assume might have won a good many more if it hadn't been for the stabbing.

'To think about that, however, would be dangerous, depressing and not achieving anything.

'I prefer to go around schools in America and address the rising obesity problem. As I suffered from it myself, know what I'm talking about.

'I bring a 10lb weight vest with me and ask kids to run around wearing it, pointing out that this, and much more, was the extra weight carried while playing tennis.

'With the President's Council in America they're really looking to combat childhood and female obesity and I'm very committed to helping the cause because I know how much misery it causes.'

Seles is also keen to promote skill over looks in tennis.

'I was bombarded with a certain image of a glamorous tennis player when I started out,' she explained.

'I went the other way, always wearing a hat because all I was interested in was winning, not looking pretty. It's important for girls to know this.

'Sport is about winning, not how you look, and girls need to understand this for their own self-esteem.'

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 23rd, 2010, 11:39 PM
I tend to like this article. ;)

Patrick345
Mar 23rd, 2010, 11:43 PM
Radical diet obviously melted her brain.

Dunlop1
Mar 23rd, 2010, 11:44 PM
Serena Williams winning 12 more slams? That's the grandslam for 3 straight years!
Anything is possible but I can't see it happening. Majorly because of how the body changes once you hit 30.
However if she is healthy and takes great care of her body, who knows what can happen.
It's not likely to happen but sure there is a chance it could.

spiritedenergy
Mar 23rd, 2010, 11:58 PM
is she referring to Evert at the end of the article?

cehowardrx7
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:03 AM
Not even getting to the Serena part, but she is DEAD RIGHT about "if she hadn't got stabbed".. The person that stabbed her, told the world, that his motive was to stop her (Monica) from beating GRAF.. plain and simple. Graf would never have won those slams if Monica was around and not purposly injured.

hankqq
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:15 AM
always nice to read a Monica interview :)

is she referring to Evert at the end of the article?

I was thinking either Evert, or top 10 player Carling Bassett, who was a few years older than Monica:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_R51-i3_O-RM/SdDcmiX-JVI/AAAAAAAAY2I/Jge1aIBM6iM/s400/17.jpg

Gdsimmons
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:38 AM
Thank you Monica Seles. I knew there was a reason that I liked you. Totally agree on just about everything she said in that article

fouc
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:42 AM
Somehow I managed to read it: "Monica Seles: "If I hadn't stabbed Serena Williams" :sobbing:

Volcana
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:52 AM
.... she is DEAD RIGHT about "if she hadn't got stabbed"...MOre to thepoint, she's right about the effect of carrying around 40 exra pounds. (Which she could gained, conceivably, because of her father's illness, stabbing or no.) Seles was close to a slam-winning level through 2000. Without all that extra weight ....

Arnian
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:53 AM
I love Monica but you have to be realistic. Serena will never pass Graf or Court in terms of grand slam wins. I think she's got a good shot at getting to 16-18 and being in the Evert/Martina camp.

I'm happy Seles admits the obvious and that's the fact that she would have won more slams if it hadn't been for the stabbing. For all we know it could have been Seles's record Serena would be after right now, if she hadn't been stabbed. It's very sad.

CrossCourt~Rally
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:56 AM
I love Monica but you have to be realistic. Serena will never pass Graf or Court in terms of grand slam wins. I think she's got a good shot at getting to 16-18 and being in the Evert/Martina camp.

I'm happy Seles admits the obvious and that's the fact that she would have won more slams if it hadn't been for the stabbing. For all we know it could have been Seles's record Serena would be after right now, if she hadn't been stabbed. It's very sad.


This. :sad:

serenafann
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:29 AM
I love You Monica, If you had not been attacked you would have won Slams in the high teens or come close to Steffi's total. You have always been generous and kind hearted with no disingenuous agenda concerning Serena,unlike so many.You are a Class Act.Regarding your nice words towards Serena's final Slam total.... from your mouth to Gods ears. :lol: I myself would settle for even a few more Grandslams.

Nicolás89
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:33 AM
I do think it's perfectly do-able for Serena to achieve the GOAT category (for real) at the end of her career, kind of want her to accomplish that.

youizahoe
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:48 AM
It's possible. Like Serena said in 2009, she stated : there are 10 more years of gas left in the tank.

If she holds that word, 12 slams won't be that hard. Especially because Clijsters and Henin will probably be retired by 2012.

I love Monica but you have to be realistic. Serena will never pass Graf or Court in terms of grand slam wins. I think she's got a good shot at getting to 16-18 and being in the Evert/Martina camp.

I'm happy Seles admits the obvious and that's the fact that she would have won more slams if it hadn't been for the stabbing. For all we know it could have been Seles's record Serena would be after right now, if she hadn't been stabbed. It's very sad.

I doubt that Seles would have had much influence on Serena's record...

By the time Serena rose to the top, Seles would have probably already weakened down a bit.

cehowardrx7
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:16 AM
Somehow I managed to read it: "Monica Seles: "If I hadn't stabbed Serena Williams" :sobbing:

It is plain to see that YA CAN'T READ JACK!!:lol:

Williamsfan4ever
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:16 AM
Wonderful read.

Dunlop1
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:32 AM
It's possible. Like Serena said in 2009, she stated : there are 10 more years of gas left in the tank.

If she holds that word, 12 slams won't be that hard.

Do you seriously think Serena can play Grandslam winning tennis for another 10 years?? Knowing Serena, she would probably say the same thing if she tore her ACL, broke her ankle or tore her rotator cuff.

I don't know about female players but the oldest male GS winner in open era was Rosewall at age 37 in 1972.
The oldest for the men this decade was Agassi winning the 2003 AO at age 32. Sampras is behind him at age 31 winning the 2002 Wimbledon.

Women in general tend to drop GS winning form earlier than the men. One reason is that for women, having a family generally means a stop in tennis, especially if they want to have children.
Is Serena eventually going to marry Common and have kids? Who knows. But Serena is definitely not playing GS winning tennis 10 yrs from now. (Unless it's doubles)

WowWow
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:33 AM
Radical diet obviously melted her brain.

:hysteric:

Tennisstar86
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:19 AM
Hrmm, Well Serena could, (I dont see it happening) I mean it depends on how long her body holds up. In-order for her to do it, shes gonna have to stop the other girls from winning....and even the slams shes won lately its not like she blew her opponents off the court like she did in 2002.... I can't see her keeping Venus/ Henin from winning more in the next few years and if shes gonna break the record shed have to win a lot in the next 3. Granted if she wanted to stick around she could prolly still be winning a slam in 2016 (if her body last, Navratilova was winning slams late in life), but she wont be cleaning them up she'd have to be at 19-20 by the end of 2012 and I just dont see it.

Tennisstar86
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:23 AM
Do you seriously think Serena can play Grandslam winning tennis for another 10 years?? Knowing Serena, she would probably say the same thing if she tore her ACL, broke her ankle or tore her rotator cuff.

I don't know about female players but the oldest male GS winner in open era was Rosewall at age 37 in 1972.
The oldest for the men this decade was Agassi winning the 2003 AO at age 32. Sampras is behind him at age 31 winning the 2002 Wimbledon.

Women in general tend to drop GS winning form earlier than the men. One reason is that for women, having a family generally means a stop in tennis, especially if they want to have children.
Is Serena eventually going to marry Common and have kids? Who knows. But Serena is definitely not playing GS winning tennis 10 yrs from now. (Unless it's doubles)

well Navratilova won her last slam at 34.... and made her last final at 38. She made 13 Finals in her 30s.... While 30 is the "end" point for many careers. some Natural athletes can continue to play on.... Players like Henin for instance would have a hard time continuing to play, but Serena/Clijsters/ Venus can play well into their 30's imo. Heck Steffi could have. shes proven it in her exhos. it depends on injury if you really want to keep it going or not.

Mightymirza
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:33 AM
Was monica really ever obese?

Volcana
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:16 AM
Was monica really ever obese?Clinically? Like body-mass index 38 or something? Who knows?

But figure pre-stabbing, she was about 6% body-fat, and probably in the 125-130 range. (She's 5'10"). Now throw FORTY pounds on that frame. And according to her, not muscle either. Suddenly a quarter to a third of your body mass is fat. Athlete bodies are different, but in a 'normal', yeah that's obese.

But Seles won a slam with all that extra weight. Don't see how 'obese' does that.

Dunlop1
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:36 AM
well Navratilova won her last slam at 34.... and made her last final at 38. She made 13 Finals in her 30s.... While 30 is the "end" point for many careers. some Natural athletes can continue to play on....

Navratilova is a huge exception for many reasons. Her life was tennis. That is who she was. She had no identity outside of it. She ate, lived and trained for tennis. It was her sole focus which enabled her to keep playing as long as she did.
She also played a style of tennis that was easier on her body. She was a true Serve and volleyer who ended points quickly. Navratilova wasn't going to run around behind the baseline hitting powerful groundstrokes for 10-15 stroke rallies.

There's a reason in the past 3 decades we haven't had a player with her longevity.

Serena certainly doesn't possess the fitness Navratilova did nor the type of game. 10 yrs more, I can safely say is not happening.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 24th, 2010, 07:32 AM
Navratilova is a huge exception for many reasons. Her life was tennis. That is who she was. She had no identity outside of it. She ate, lived and trained for tennis. It was her sole focus which enabled her to keep playing as long as she did.
She also played a style of tennis that was easier on her body. She was a true Serve and volleyer who ended points quickly. Navratilova wasn't going to run around behind the baseline hitting powerful groundstrokes for 10-15 stroke rallies.

There's a reason in the past 3 decades we haven't had a player with her longevity.

Serena certainly doesn't possess the fitness Navratilova did nor the type of game. 10 yrs more, I can safely say is not happening.

I think the opposite can equally be true in this case.

The fact that Serena HASN'T made her life all about tennis has only ADDED to her potential for longevity in the game - one of the points Monica was making.

There's a reason in the past 3 decades we haven't had a player with her longevity.

Also, while I see your point about S&V (serve & volley not Serena and Venus), I think Nav' is a bit of an aberration. I can think of no other S & Ver that had a career SIGNIFICANTLY longer than the average baseliners out there. Though, I admit I could be mistaken there. I'd be interested to see some data on that from the more intrepid statisticians around here. But the fact that, as you say, we haven't seen a player with her kind of longevity in the past 30 years only highlights her uniqueness, given the fact that she's NOT the only S&Ver in the past 30 years.

DimaDinosaur
Mar 24th, 2010, 07:54 AM
Serena doesn't need to win any more grand slam to prove that she's the best. She's already the best. I've seen her play. I've seen her mental fortitude. No one could match that. I've seen the greatest ever already.

Talula
Mar 24th, 2010, 07:56 AM
I love Monica but you have to be realistic. Serena will never pass Graf or Court in terms of grand slam wins. I think she's got a good shot at getting to 16-18 and being in the Evert/Martina camp.

I'm happy Seles admits the obvious and that's the fact that she would have won more slams if it hadn't been for the stabbing. For all we know it could have been Seles's record Serena would be after right now, if she hadn't been stabbed. It's very sad.

Yes, as much as I loved Monica I think she has said some daft things here.

I also doubt very much that Serena will pass Court.

Also, Monica is conning herself - she courted the glamour/celebrity image like no tennis player had before her. Numerous fashion spreads in Hello magazine and covers of gossip and celebrity magazines, posing in glamour wigs with Ferarris, attending celebrity parties, endorsements all over the place. She even once claimed 'I know I'm beautiful and will be a movie star when I've finished playing tennis'. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, and it was her glamour and star status that attracted many fans. But her last remark about wearing hats to avoid all that is ridiculous - the hiding behind hats and under blankets came AFTER the stabbing when she was avoiding all and sundry. A Sunday Times reporter once said that he had NEVER met anyone who enjoyed being famous more than Monica before the stabbing - hence the irony of her later retreat.

I prefer Monica as she really was rather than her reinvention of her past. She was what she was and I don't understand why she needs to pretend she was something she wasn't.

Talula
Mar 24th, 2010, 08:30 AM
Radical diet obviously melted her brain.

:lol:People who were fat and get thin often can't stop blabbing on about it. Weight becomes their cause, their raison d'etre. I do think Monica needs to focus on something else! It's the same with a lot of women who have a baby - on and on and on about it as if they were the first to give birth!

Talula
Mar 24th, 2010, 08:33 AM
Serena doesn't need to win any more grand slam to prove that she's the best. She's already the best. I've seen her play. I've seen her mental fortitude. No one could match that. I've seen the greatest ever already.

Every era is different which is why total number of slams, weeks at No 1 etc always has to be put in context - Hingis' run at No 1 is an example. It is MUCH harder to win a slam today than Court's era or even in hte mid-90s. Which is why no one is the GOAT, only of their era, and Serena is definitely the greatest of her era.

Altered
Mar 24th, 2010, 08:35 AM
Serena Williams is Greatest

bhathiya9999
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:23 AM
There's no any offence to it Serena Williams is the greatest.....

madlove
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:56 AM
great article but let's be realistic, i don't think serena will win 12 more slams. perhaps 4 more...

Beny
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:40 AM
Somehow I managed to read it: "Monica Seles: "If I hadn't stabbed Serena Williams" :sobbing:

:lol:

Me almost too

Bijoux0021
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:48 AM
great article but let's be realistic, i don't think serena will win 12 more slams. perhaps 4 more...
If she puts her mind and body to it, she can do it.

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:37 AM
Radical diet obviously melted her brain.

This.

Svetlana)))
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:19 PM
Possibly 6 more, to win 12 more would mean 3 years at the shortest (impossible) and it would reach into her early-mid thirties. I do believe she can reach 16-18

BlameSerena
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:39 PM
'You can't really make comparisons with previous eras, but it's hard to see any of the greats living with Serena when she's playing as well as she did in the Australian Open.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-1259493/Monica-Seles-Why-I-believe-Serena-Williams-The-Greatest.html#ixzz0j656OXUv


I agree (and she can play better than she did at the AO). Serena will always be the greatest for *me* anyway, regardless of how many slams she ends up with. Apparently I'm the only one who believes this. :) I love Monica for her honesty.

thrust
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:05 PM
I think that if Monica had not been stabbed, she and Graf would have had a rivalry similiar to that of Navratilova-Evert competition. Graf would have the edge on grass, Monica on clay. They would have been about even on hard courts. After the stabbing, Monica developed deep depression which caused the weight gain which caused the physical decline and loss of confidence. Of course we will never really know, which is the tennis tragedy of all time. There is no doubt, IMO, that the day Monica was attacked was one of the luckiest in Graf's tennis career.

Londoner
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:08 PM
I think that if Monica had not been stabbed, she and Graf would have had a rivalry similiar to that of Navratilova-Evert competition. Graf would have the edge on grass, Monica on clay. They would have been about even on hard courts. After the stabbing, Monica developed deep depression which caused the weight gain which caused the physical decline and loss of confidence. Of course we will never really know, which is the tennis tragedy of all time. There is no doubt, IMO, that the day Monica was attacked was one of the luckiest in Graf's tennis career.

:bs::yawn:

Conor
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:18 PM
I think 12 slams is a bit beyond her reach to be honest. Another 6 would be more realistic I think. And its not all about numbers, for me Serena is already the best player womens tennis has ever seen. Forget all the 'oh you cant compare eras' crap... bottom line is, no one has ever hit with so much power, her serve is untouchable, her athleticism, her attitude, her mentality. She's the best there ever has been.

thrust
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Every era is different which is why total number of slams, weeks at No 1 etc always has to be put in context - Hingis' run at No 1 is an example. It is MUCH harder to win a slam today than Court's era or even in hte mid-90s. Which is why no one is the GOAT, only of their era, and Serena is definitely the greatest of her era.

Good point, well put. Hingis was lucky to reach her peak between the Graf-Williams era. Graf was lucky that her only real competition, Seles, was taken down a peg or two by a crazy Graf fan. Grass courts and style of play enabled Court, Nav, Evert, King etc.to play many more tournaments than today's players are physically able to do. Therefore, It will be nearly impossible for today's players to equal the amount of Slam and tournament wins of the great players of the past.

Londoner
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Radical diet obviously melted her brain.

This.

In 50 years time when Seles is in an old folks' home, she'll be regailing the other poor old folk with: 'did you know I was stabbed? Yes, I could have won more slams but I was stabbed'. The poor old folk then piss themselves with boredom and try and leave the room on their Zimmers.

Sammm
Mar 24th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I like Serena but 12 more slams :spit: It took her over 10 years to win 12 slams; by that logic it will take another 10 years. Serena playing till 38? Really? :confused:

youizahoe
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:27 PM
Do you seriously think Serena can play Grandslam winning tennis for another 10 years?? Knowing Serena, she would probably say the same thing if she tore her ACL, broke her ankle or tore her rotator cuff.

I don't know about female players but the oldest male GS winner in open era was Rosewall at age 37 in 1972.
The oldest for the men this decade was Agassi winning the 2003 AO at age 32. Sampras is behind him at age 31 winning the 2002 Wimbledon.

Women in general tend to drop GS winning form earlier than the men. One reason is that for women, having a family generally means a stop in tennis, especially if they want to have children.
Is Serena eventually going to marry Common and have kids? Who knows. But Serena is definitely not playing GS winning tennis 10 yrs from now. (Unless it's doubles)

If I look at the talent we've currently got, I doubt there's gonna be anyone even close to challenging her, besides the multiple slam owners. In fact I'm quite sure there won't be a new talent coming up anytime soon and winning more than 2 slams. :shrug:

youizahoe
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:29 PM
great article but let's be realistic, i don't think serena will win 12 more slams. perhaps 4 more...

She will win 4 slams within the next 2 years :lol:. Feel free to quote me in 2012 :)

faboozadoo15
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:35 PM
Monica :help:

I don't understand why she wants to pretend she was this shrinking violet when she first burst onto the scene. She loved being famous.

And for Serena to win another DOZEN slams, we'd have to assume she's only halfway through her career and that she can maintain the kind of dominance it has taken in order to win 12 slams.

cehowardrx7
Mar 24th, 2010, 04:38 PM
I think that if Monica had not been stabbed, she and Graf would have had a rivalry similiar to that of Navratilova-Evert competition. Graf would have the edge on grass, Monica on clay. They would have been about even on hard courts. After the stabbing, Monica developed deep depression which caused the weight gain which caused the physical decline and loss of confidence. Of course we will never really know, which is the tennis tragedy of all time. There is no doubt, IMO, that the day Monica was attacked was one of the luckiest in Graf's tennis career.

I second that! Not only that, it was not only the luckiest thing in Graf's tennis career, it was the best. Don't know why they have a lot of NON-BELIEVERS out there. My God, the dam villian who did the stabbing stated to the world, the reason he stabbed Monica was TO KEEP MONICA FROM BEATING GRAF!!!

Can't get any plainer than that!!

darkangel23
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:09 PM
But Seles is adamant that -despite the evidence of her abusive outburst against a line judge at last year's US Open, for which she received a suspended three-year ban from the tournament - Williams has matured professionally and personally.
Monica Seles

WHAT??? Have I spent some time on the moon? Is Serena banned from the US Open????

hingis-seles
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:15 PM
But Seles is adamant that -despite the evidence of her abusive outburst against a line judge at last year's US Open, for which she received a suspended three-year ban from the tournament - Williams has matured professionally and personally.
Monica Seles

WHAT??? Have I spent some time on the moon? Is Serena banned from the US Open????

It's a suspended sentence - if she does it again, she gets banned. The same sentence Parche got for stabbing Monica.

Monzanator
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:16 PM
is she referring to Evert at the end of the article?

Yeah, but I bet she wouldn't have said that if she looked as half good as Evert did :lol: Women are always jealous :lol:

youizahoe
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:17 PM
I doubt she'll get suspended if she does it again. Serena could get them the legal way :happy:

Yonexforever
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:50 PM
:worship:Yes, as much as I loved Monica I think she has said some daft things here.

I also doubt very much that Serena will pass Court.

Also, Monica is conning herself - she courted the glamour/celebrity image like no tennis player had before her. Numerous fashion spreads in Hello magazine and covers of gossip and celebrity magazines, posing in glamour wigs with Ferarris, attending celebrity parties, endorsements all over the place. She even once claimed 'I know I'm beautiful and will be a movie star when I've finished playing tennis'. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, and it was her glamour and star status that attracted many fans. But her last remark about wearing hats to avoid all that is ridiculous - the hiding behind hats and under blankets came AFTER the stabbing when she was avoiding all and sundry. A Sunday Times reporter once said that he had NEVER met anyone who enjoyed being famous more than Monica before the stabbing - hence the irony of her later retreat.

I prefer Monica as she really was rather than her reinvention of her past. She was what she was and I don't understand why she needs to pretend she was something she wasn't.

:worship::worship::worship:
WELL SAID INDEED!!!!!!!!!

Gdsimmons
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:02 PM
I never doubt anything Serena does. While I think 22+ is a huge stretch, im not saying impossible. But I definitely think Serena is either going to tie Martina's/Chrissie's or go beyond it.

Bezz
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Serena will not win another 12 slams. Its taken her 10 years to win the 12 she has.

LeRoy.
Mar 24th, 2010, 06:52 PM
'You can't really make comparisons with previous eras, but it's hard to see any of the greats living with Serena when she's playing as well as she did in the Australian Open

Essentially Seles said that NO ONE can beat Serena when she is at her best and thats the truth. I am glad Seles just flat out said what everyone knows.

Also Seles actually won 8 GS's at 19 and knows a lot more about winning GS's than us so her opinion counts. I'd love to hear Serena's reaction to such high praise from her idol growing up. :D

Olórin
Mar 24th, 2010, 07:46 PM
Essentially Seles said that NO ONE can beat Serena when she is at her best and thats the truth. I am glad Seles just flat out said what everyone knows.

Also Seles actually won 8 GS's at 19 and knows a lot more about winning GS's than us so her opinion counts. I'd love to hear Serena's reaction to such high praise from her idol growing up. :D

Me too. And also the obvious fact she would have won more than 9 slams if she hadn't been stabbed. I'm glad these two points are on record in black and white (from a few greats now).

sweetpeas
Mar 24th, 2010, 08:13 PM
So happy!Plus' this comes from one of the great tennis player's herself!!!!!!!!

Thanks, so so much Ms. :wavey::kiss::bounce::worship::):D:cool:Seles..

cehowardrx7
Mar 24th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Serena and Monica,IMO, they can't get enough praise!!:worship:

LucyFromLondon
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Serena will not win another 12 slams. Its taken her 10 years to win the 12 she has.

I have to agree with this. As for Monica and her woes that was all before my time but I am very sorry to say that when I say Monica Seles to friends they look blank! I doubt what she says has any real relevance today! Sorry, but what Monica thinks is solely that! I can't get worked up about it and wont!

I truly appreciate that people love Monica and am thrilled that people pay homage to her because that people remember tennis legends, but leave it at that because an opinion is an opinion and Monica deserves hers. I have bought a DVD off EBay of Monica and can well understand why people admire her. But I'm not the norm! Most of my friends do not buy DVDs of old tennis players and laugh at me and call me Loopy!

Sorry if I can't explain it properly!

As for Serena, I don't know about numbers of slams but I do recall everyone saying that she was the best female player ever when she won Wimbledon. I like her very much and hope she plays for a long time! I don't want to miss seeing her!

Stamp Paid
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:22 PM
Honestly, 3 years ago, I didnt expect Serena to even win 12 slams. I thought her career was headed the way of Seles.
I'm not setting any predictions. I feel that Serena is playing the best tennis of her life at the moment.
And I'm excited about the next 3 years and what will come.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:06 PM
Honestly, 3 years ago, I didnt expect Serena to even win 12 slams. I thought her career was headed the way of Seles.
I'm not setting any predictions. I feel that Serena is playing the best tennis of her life at the moment.
And I'm excited about the next 3 years and what will come.

Be careful, I said that in Feb '03.

SAEKeithSerena
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:20 PM
i don't think that serena can win that many, however, that is awesome and so respectful of seles to say this.

serena will end up with 18-20.

hingis-seles
Jun 11th, 2013, 07:18 PM
I'm willing to bet not as many people are laughing at Monica's comments now. Someone who's won as much as she has does know a thing or two about the sport.

iWill
Jun 11th, 2013, 07:22 PM
Monica :bowdown: I love her! She was absolutely right on ALL that she said in this article.

BuTtErFrEnA
Jun 11th, 2013, 07:27 PM
She will win 4 slams within the next 2 years :lol:. Feel free to quote me in 2012 :)

:speakles:

Stamp Paid
Jun 11th, 2013, 07:28 PM
Be careful, I said that in Feb '03.
:worship:

Londoner
Jun 11th, 2013, 07:47 PM
Wow, it's over 3 years since this thread started and I posted in it. That's scary!:eek::help:

jenny161185
Jun 11th, 2013, 09:04 PM
Nice article Monica, agree with nearly everything she said too!

Cajka
Jun 11th, 2013, 10:21 PM
I remember reading an article where Seles said that she could see Serena winning 20 slams. At that time, Serena had like 12 or so. So comments below were really nasty, people were calling Seles an idiot for making such a prediction. But today it doesn't seem that crazy anymore.

Edit: This is an old thread, it's about that article I read. :facepalm:

Qrystyna
Jun 12th, 2013, 12:12 AM
Monica :worship: My all-time favourite player, always. She's such an inspiration and a true champion. I miss her.

I really think Serena can break Margaret Court's "record" if she keeps playing at this level. If she wins Wimbledon and USO this year, that will leave 7 more slams to 25. If she plays until Rio in 2016 as she's indicated she would, I don't see why she can't possibly do it. :shrug:

Kabibi
Jun 12th, 2013, 12:42 AM
Wow. There were so many gems in here. Monica was so nice in her comments. I've blown away and pleasantly surprised and pleased :)

JCTennisFan
Jun 12th, 2013, 12:45 AM
The biggest hurdle Serena will have will be potential injuries.

If she does not get injured.... she has a very good shot to add a few more slams to her belt.

But all it takes is one bad injury and she could be done for good.

brickhousesupporter
Jun 12th, 2013, 12:55 AM
Sharapova's greatest rival has endorsed Serena for GOAThood.

iWill
Jun 12th, 2013, 01:56 AM
The biggest hurdle Serena will have will be potential injuries.

If she does not get injured.... she has a very good shot to add a few more slams to her belt.

But all it takes is one bad injury and she could be done for good.

Thank you Debbie :rolleyes: :wavey:

WhatTheDeuce
Jun 12th, 2013, 03:46 AM
Monica :worship: My all-time favourite player, always. She's such an inspiration and a true champion. I miss her.
http://www.thehomeplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2ut21df.gif

tennisbum79
Jun 12th, 2013, 03:56 AM
I remember reading an article where Seles said that she could see Serena winning 20 slams. At that time, Serena had like 12 or so. So comments below were really nasty, people were calling Seles an idiot for making such a prediction. But today it doesn't seem that crazy anymore.

. :facepalm:

It takes a champions to see what is burning inside another champion.

Here ,on this TF, there are just tennis fans with unlimited access to computer keyboard with little understanding of what makes a champion

Renalicious
Jun 12th, 2013, 05:20 AM
Seles is such a pleasant champion.

Who else would get stabbed and be so classy, gracious and unregretful of happened!?

Imagine if Navratilova got stabbed. She would probably mention the stabbing and how it affected her career forever in every interview :help:

SAEKeithSerena
Jun 12th, 2013, 05:33 AM
Thissss<3

tennisbum79
Jun 12th, 2013, 05:51 AM
Seles is such a pleasant champion.

Who else would get stabbed and be so classy, gracious and unregretful of happened!?

Imagine if Navratilova got stabbed. She would probably mention the stabbing and how it affected her career forever in every interview :help:
True.

She uses her time as a commentator to list what tournament she won, how many times and who she beats.

Renalicious
Jun 12th, 2013, 04:59 PM
Yup if Navrat got stabbed you would never hear the end of it :sobbing:

Sarindipity
Jun 12th, 2013, 05:17 PM
Nav would start every match she commentates with an anecdote that would eventually lead to her stabbing. Or better yet, Nav's take on grunting: Did you hear that? Thats the same noise i made when i got stabbed

BuTtErFrEnA
Jun 12th, 2013, 05:23 PM
or the time last wimbledon when she talked about serving 15 aces when she wasn't even trying, when she was supposed to be commenting on serena's aces :tears:

SerenaSiren
Jun 17th, 2013, 03:54 AM
Seles might have been right i believe that Serena is capable of winning 20+ slams

tommyk75
Jun 17th, 2013, 04:24 AM
I don't remember Seles ever wearing a hat on court until she made her comeback. In fact, she was actually criticized for trying to be ultra-glamorous and mysterious from what I recall. People called her a "Madonna wannabe," and Esquire magazine named her "A woman who desperately wants to be a bimbo but isn't classy enough." :O

J.J.Kelly
Jun 17th, 2013, 04:26 AM
Seles might have been right i believe that Serena is capable of winning 20+ slams

Oh right cause this is new :D