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sky20748
Mar 22nd, 2010, 07:50 PM
Finally a nice draw now dont mess it up Venus is a nice path to the semis for you so walk ur but straight on thru
:bounce:
V william
bye

Larcher de brito Michelle
vs-Cirstea Sorana

Qualifier
vs-Vinci Roberta

Medina Garrigues
vs-bye

Hantuchova d
vs-bye

srebotnik,katernia
vs-Patty schnyder

Chakvetadze,anna
vs-date krum kimiko

petrova nadia
vs-bye

Vee Williams
Mar 22nd, 2010, 07:54 PM
One of Venus' many talents is to make easy things difficult at times, so let's see how she plays during her first match and take it one at a time.

Marshmallow
Mar 22nd, 2010, 07:56 PM
Shut up!!!!!11!TROIS!!?!?!11!

sky20748
Mar 22nd, 2010, 07:58 PM
So true but lil sis is not in the equasion so but again come one Venus play some smart tactical tennis and you are right there with the rest of them.play not so smart and your going home right there with the rest of them.the choice is yours.choose wisely grasshopper lol

Protoss
Mar 22nd, 2010, 07:58 PM
She's got Flavia potentially in the quarters. :shrug:

zxcVbnm88
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:00 PM
She seems to win more often when her draw is tough..........

2Black
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:00 PM
Venus hasn't played in 3 weeks so her rhythm could be totally off & she bows out to Cirstea. This aint no nice draw CHILE PLEASE

Stamp Paid
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:06 PM
Good luck girl :lol:

Peplin
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:12 PM
I want Michelle vs. Venus in the 2nd round.

PLP
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:15 PM
She's got Flavia potentially in the quarters. :shrug:

True, not her favorite matchup :lol:

Still, I would favor Venus as this is Miami.

Her rd16 opponent could be quite interesting, a lot of my faves in that section...Dani, Patty, Kimiko, Anna, Nadia.

Vlover
Mar 22nd, 2010, 08:19 PM
If all depends on which Venus shows up. If it is post AO Venus then she will be fine, if it is AO quarters Venus then :unsure: Hope Richard and Lakeshia are there to keep her on track!:lol: Go Venus, you can do this! Pretend it is Dubai, if you have to.;)

Craig.
Mar 22nd, 2010, 09:59 PM
If she fights like she did in Acapulco, then she should be fine.

MrSerenaWilliams
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:09 PM
she better win!

Serena y Monica
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:14 PM
It seems to me that the tougher the draw the better outcome for Venus. Hopefully she will be able to relax and play within herself.

hankqq
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:16 PM
but she has an unfortunate habit of blowing easy draws :lol: :o Hopefully she'll take a break from that pattern in Miami :p
and hopefully that leg injury is all healed up :unsure:

vwfan
Mar 22nd, 2010, 10:48 PM
The draw is not Venus' biggest hurdle. Her head is. :mad:

I hope her head is on straight and she is hungry; otherwise, any draw is tough.

youizahoe
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:15 PM
She's got Flavia potentially in the quarters. :shrug:

Flavia can't play these days, she can't even defeat a pusher :tape:

Roookie
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:20 PM
what a joke of a draw :lol:

GracefulVenus
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:25 PM
Like the draw, lets do this Vee.

Gdsimmons
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:28 PM
Venus does have a nice draw. She could potentially face Li in the semis. Other than Li and MAYBE Kuznetsova, she should be in the finals

Midnight_Robber
Mar 22nd, 2010, 11:34 PM
It's up to Venus of course - but hmmm.

I prefer explicitly tougher draws, because she turns up primed for action tends to stay more focused and is less likely to run up against some young player she's never played before only to... yeah well. Venus fans will *know* what I'm talking about. Tougher draws are better for sharpening your game - you get more out of those encounters and they build you up for a finals in a way that a 'cakewalk' draw simply doesn't.

If Vee progresses round by round playing Hantuchova always seems to test her game without putting her in serious danger, whereas Flavia tends to bring it against Venus and plays her hard. If she a.) meets Flavia b.) Flavia plays well and c.) she gets past her then it might do her good. Meeting up with Li or Sveta in the semis could also be a good thing.

sky20748
Mar 23rd, 2010, 12:14 AM
Yes she has a nice draw didnt say it was going to be easy because now a days everyone comes out swinging.but she does have a nice draw with no henin or clijsters yet.Regardless how hard or easy Venus just has to come out ready no matter what.So with that said its game on Venus from the very first point and good luck.And yes as a true Venus fan I do know that she needs to be primed for every match not just so called hard ones.Every match is hard but with smart play and focus she can do it.

Slutiana
Mar 23rd, 2010, 12:20 AM
If she wins the 2R then there are no players under 21! :rolls:


Hopefully Sorana will win her 1R and push Venus all the way though. Really hope so.

Tech1
Mar 23rd, 2010, 12:36 AM
Good luck, Vee!!!

Chakvenus
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:13 AM
pretty much all of my favorites are squashed in her quarter, but regardless i would like her to come out on top and win the title.
lets go VEEEE!

azinna
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:57 AM
It's up to Venus of course - but I prefer explicitly tougher draws, because she turns up primed for action tends to stay more focused and is less likely to run up against some young player she's never played before only to... yeah well. Venus fans will *know* what I'm talking about....

Indeed. I am NOT liking this draw, at all, at all.

sky20748
Mar 23rd, 2010, 02:04 AM
So no one is liking Vees draw wow a shocker

VeeReeDavJCap81
Mar 23rd, 2010, 02:40 AM
I really hope she can win this title. There really is no reason why she shouldn't be able to other than she is Venus and capable of playing craptastic tennis on demand.

Infiniti2001
Mar 23rd, 2010, 03:37 AM
I will be at the final :p Venus you better make the final :fiery:

thegreendestiny
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:15 AM
I'm sure she would find a way to lose as she often does. :o

Inger67
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:38 AM
Why is there so much negativity surrounding this tournament and her draw? I think Venus will stroll through this draw to be honest, until at least the SF.

vwfan
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:25 PM
I'm sure she would find a way to lose as she often does. :oThat's a little extreme. She's WON 43 times--more than anyone else on tour, so she knows a little bit about winning, too. ;)

vwfan
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:26 PM
Why is there so much negativity surrounding this tournament and her draw? I think Venus will stroll through this draw to be honest, until at least the SF.I agree! Go Venus. She can do this.:angel:

The 2nd Law
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:33 PM
Good feeling that Vee will win the whole thing. No this is not a jinx attempt!

Jaffas85
Mar 23rd, 2010, 01:55 PM
If Venus wins Miami she'll have a realistic shot at being ranked #2 in time for Wimbledon (considering Serena is #1 it would ensure they would be seeded #1 and #2 for wimbledon).

Wozniacki, Safina and Kuznetsova have lots of points to defend in the clay court season as well as the French open while during the clay court season all Venus really has to defend are semi final points in Rome and she only reached the 3rd round of the French Open last year.

So if Venus can have a relatively decent run during the clay court season and at least make the 4th round of the French Open she could be ranked #2 for Wimbledon (but winning Miami will be necessary for this to be a realistic consideration).

DragonFlame
Mar 23rd, 2010, 02:12 PM
Li Na has been training with justine in the last week, lets see if that did her any good. :)

miffedmax
Mar 23rd, 2010, 02:57 PM
It can't be that great a draw for Vee, given she has no chance of meeting her favorite bitch (and mine), Elena.

Uranium
Mar 23rd, 2010, 03:19 PM
I'm sure she would find a way to lose as she often does. :o

You sure do hope so. As expected from such a hater like you:worship:

Infiniti2001
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:41 PM
It can't be that great a draw for Vee, given she has no chance of meeting her favorite bitch (and mine), Elena.

:haha: You are too much :lol:

cordec
Mar 23rd, 2010, 04:46 PM
If she's a queen, she doesn't need a special draw...


Finally a nice draw now dont mess it up Venus is a nice path to the semis for you so walk ur but straight on thru
:bounce:
V william
bye

Larcher de brito Michelle
vs-Cirstea Sorana

Qualifier
vs-Vinci Roberta

Medina Garrigues
vs-bye

Hantuchova d
vs-bye

srebotnik,katernia
vs-Patty schnyder

Chakvetadze,anna
vs-date krum kimiko

petrova nadia
vs-bye

sky20748
Mar 23rd, 2010, 07:20 PM
Who said special draw.I said a nice draw meaning ie she has opponents there that she can just do her thang with.but again The bottom half is loaded and the top half is not.She is a Queen and just stating my opinion.Good luck Venus and yes so much negativity its a shame but its to be expected.People drinking to much hatarade now days.

The Witch-king
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:18 PM
Some peopl will not rest untill they have fully jinxed her. SMH. Shame on you!!

AndreConrad
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:32 PM
If she's a queen, she doesn't need a special draw...
Show me one fanbase that doesn't worry about their favorite's draws. :shrug:

jefrilibra
Mar 23rd, 2010, 09:37 PM
Good luck Venus against Cirstea!

Matt01
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:02 PM
That's a little extreme. She's WON 43 times--more than anyone else on tour, so she knows a little bit about winning, too. ;)


She also has played more and longer on the tour than most other players since she has played tournaments since 1994(!). So while she has won more than than anyone else on teh tour, she also has lost a lot, especially in the last 6-7 years outside off grass. And I'm not hating on Venus, I'm just stating the facts.

vwfan
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:39 PM
She also has played more and longer on the tour than most other players since she has played tournaments since 1994(!). So while she has won more than than anyone else on teh tour, she also has lost a lot, especially in the last 6-7 years outside off grass. And I'm not hating on Venus, I'm just stating the facts.

that's silly: length on tour has very little do do with it. lots of folks have been on tour a long time and don't have the titles to show for it.

In addition, over the course of her career, Venus was out a lot with injury and has always played a limited schedule. She turned pro in 1994, but didn't play anything close to a real full schedule until 1997.

Matt01
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:49 PM
that's silly: length on tour has very little do do with it. lots of folks have been on tour a long time and don't have the titles to show for it.

In addition, over the course of her career, Venus was out a lot with injury and has always played a limited schedule. She turned pro in 1994, but didn't play anything close to a real full schedule until 1997.


The last statement is true, the rest not so much. Venus played 16 or more tournaments in 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004 and 2009. Those are not limited schedules. And injuries really affected her amount of play in tournaments only in 3 years since 1998: In 2000, 2003 and 2006.

Stevecw
Mar 23rd, 2010, 10:53 PM
Now she plays a pumped up ready for anyone Sorana!!! Got confidence back after finally getting a win!!!
Ok i stop dreaming, and yeah sadly Sori will prob suffer a bad loss :sobbng:

Richie's
Mar 23rd, 2010, 11:11 PM
With Hantuchova around, it's always nice for Vee!

harloo
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:13 AM
Please Venus don't go out there playing a mess. You have a very doable draw.:lol:

serenafann
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:46 AM
One of Venus' many talents is to make easy things difficult at times, so let's see how she plays during her first match and take it one at a time.

This is so true,but
hopefully she will be fully focused and bring the title home.

PlayByPlay
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:55 AM
I only hope she does well.

VishaalMaria
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:28 AM
The last statement is true, the rest not so much. Venus played 16 or more tournaments in 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004 and 2009. Those are not limited schedules. And injuries really affected her amount of play in tournaments only in 3 years since 1998: In 2000, 2003 and 2006.

:weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::w eirdo:

Infiniti2001
Mar 24th, 2010, 05:28 AM
:weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::w eirdo:

More like a rottweiler who won't drop his bone :tape:

vwfan
Mar 24th, 2010, 03:01 PM
:weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::w eirdo:and silly:

on grass, Venus has a 87% career win/loss percentage (placing her in the top three overall in the history of women's open tennis)
on hardcourts, Venus has a 81% career win/loss (placing her in the top ten overall in the history of women's open tennis)
on clay, Venus has a 78% career win/loss percentage (place her in the top ten overall in the history and second among active players)--you know, her worst surface!

oh and across all surfaces?
Venus has an 80% career win/loss percentage (placing her in the top ten overall in the history of women's open tennis).

again, number of years on tour is not relevant. she mostly wins. that's why when she loses, lots of folks are scratching their heads. :wavey:

Matt01
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:25 PM
I see I'm wasting my time.

Midnight_Robber
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:08 PM
and silly:

on grass, Venus has a 87% career win/loss percentage (placing her in the top three overall in the history of women's open tennis)
on hardcourts, Venus has a 81% career win/loss (placing her in the top ten overall in the history of women's open tennis)
on clay, Venus has a 78% career win/loss percentage (place her in the top ten overall in the history and second among active players)--you know, her worst surface!

oh and across all surfaces?
Venus has an 80% career win/loss percentage (placing her in the top ten overall in the history of women's open tennis).

again, number of years on tour is not relevant. she mostly wins. that's why when she loses, lots of folks are scratching their heads. :wavey:

Did not know this. Those are impressive stats. Thanks for the informative posts. :)

VishaalMaria
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:11 PM
I see I'm wasting my time.

:weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo:

dynamoRockstarr
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:20 PM
Vee fans in full force here im missing in action lol.

barboza
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Shut up!!!!!11!TROIS!!?!?!11!

Miss you!!

Dunlop1
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:55 PM
:weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::weirdo::w eirdo:

The post of Matt01 you responded to with the above is actually on target. Not sure why you responded in this manner.

V's a star
Mar 25th, 2010, 04:33 AM
The post of Matt01 you responded to with the above is actually on target. Not sure why you responded in this manner.

On target? of wat? what are u guys trying to say? This thread is about Finally a nice draw in Miami for Queen Venus :weirdo::weirdo:

What does pretending Venus started her full time carrer in 94 :cuckoo: and hasnt struggled with many injuries since 2003 have to do with the subject?

vwfan
Mar 25th, 2010, 04:35 AM
The post of Matt01 you responded to with the above is actually on target. Not sure why you responded in this manner.for what? his post didn't support his argument because it basically said that there were only five years since 1994 when she officially turned pro that she played a full schedule.

therefore her tournament wins can not be linked to the notion that she is leading the tour in titles because she's played longer.

get it now?!

no, probably not.:help:

sky20748
Mar 25th, 2010, 04:43 AM
Ok Venus fans and non Venus fans lets play nice now.

Infiniti2001
Mar 25th, 2010, 05:35 AM
The post of Matt01 you responded to with the above is actually on target. Not sure why you responded in this manner.

They just can't look away :help:

Dinesh!
Mar 25th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Its pretty hard for venus to pick the title.

Vlover
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:33 PM
I see I'm wasting my time.
Not to mention everyone also wasting their time on you.:tape: In any case for such a "no talent" as Venus she won this event 3 times while other so called more "talented" players still yet to do so.:rolleyes:

DS.Fan.
Mar 25th, 2010, 01:55 PM
Davai Vee!:D

VishaalMaria
Mar 25th, 2010, 03:42 PM
The post of Matt01 you responded to with the above is actually on target. Not sure why you responded in this manner.

Why is that any of your concern? I can respond to whoever in any manner I wish, in line with rules and regulations.

And of course a Justine Henin fan such as yourself would think his post is on target, especially since Venus has recently surpassed Justine in title count. Talk about excuses and scraping the barrel; now it's "Venus has played longer [and therefore has had more chances to win titles]". Keep telling yourself that :lol: :lol:

But anyway that's neither her nor there.

Matt01
Mar 25th, 2010, 05:39 PM
Not to mention everyone also wasting their time on you.:tape: In any case for such a "no talent" as Venus she one this event 3 times while other so called more "talented" players still yet to do so.:rolleyes:


Where did I say anything about Venus' "talent"? :rolleyes:

bhathiya9999
Mar 25th, 2010, 05:51 PM
Serena best than venus.......

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 25th, 2010, 06:09 PM
One of Venus' many talents is to make easy things difficult at times, so let's see how she plays during her first match and take it one at a time.
Agreed.

We shall not speak of this supposed "nice" draw again.

Joe.
Mar 25th, 2010, 06:23 PM
what a jynx :lol:

-NAJ-
Mar 25th, 2010, 10:51 PM
Na Li out
Pennetta out


Venus have nice draw

Midnight_Robber
Mar 25th, 2010, 11:19 PM
Na Li out
Pennetta out


Venus have nice draw

You're kidding? :rolleyes: But that's exactly what I didn't want to happen (i.e. players who can push her/beat her getting bundled out early.)

We shall not speak of this supposed "nice" draw again.

Agreed. One opponent at a time, one round at a time.

sky20748
Mar 25th, 2010, 11:39 PM
I feel as usual that its in Venus hands.I wish her well regardless.It's Venus career and she has accomplished more than any of us ever will.She is living her dream and all we can do if we are Venus fans is wish her well.If you are not a fan then still dont wish anyone ill will.The players are out there doing there jobs.We dont know these tennis players on an intimate level meaning we dont hang out with them.We just know them thru there games and the tv.All this talking down about them is crazy and all the bashing of the fans is crazy.Lets just all agree to disagree.