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fufuqifuqishahah
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:24 AM
Caroline Wozniacki or Viktoria Azarenka?

doni1212
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:25 AM
Azarenka without a doubt!

jbeacinu
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:29 AM
vikkkaa

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:34 AM
Henin.
The bitch caused all this havoc.

Inger67
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:36 AM
Caro :)

Chakvenus
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:39 AM
victoria

Tennisstar86
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:40 AM
Azarenka her matches against the top girls are a least competitive and yes Henin did cause this mess... she jinx all the girl who took it and didnt deserve it (JAnkovic/Sharapova/Ivanovic had horrible 2009) All of them got it before Serena when they shouldnt have...

hingisGOAT
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:42 AM
Is this a joke? Wozniacki has had better results by far, and can actually serve. Azarenka would be new most pathetic #1

Gdsimmons
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:43 AM
IF Serena just happened not be #1 (BIG IF) then I'd rather have Azarenka.

allrounder
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:45 AM
At the moment? neither have done enough to be worthy :shrug: in the future Vika :)

Milito22
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:51 AM
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/Large%20Smilies/1lg003prayer1.gif Oh Vika, God bless you!!!

terjw
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:59 AM
Caro of course. But if it were ever to happen - then just as important as getting to #1 would be the performances and titles to acquire the ranking points to do so.

Uranium
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:06 AM
Azarenka.

Break My Rapture
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:08 AM
Vika.

goldenlox
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:18 AM
Azarenka is going to drop to #7 behind Elena.
She is not getting to #1 in the near future.
Caro might, if she is solid thru grass and Serena doesnt have a big clay season or good Wimbledon

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:31 AM
Azarenka plays a worthy tennis

Serena y Monica
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:36 AM
Vika...as she would be in control of her own fate. I mean she may collapse but at least she has the game to dictate even against the best. Caro is like bambi...she would be at the mercy of Kim Justine Venus et. al w/power speed and consistency.

Serena y Monica
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:40 AM
Azarenka is going to drop to #7 behind Elena.
She is not getting to #1 in the near future.
Caro might, if she is solid thru grass and Serena doesnt have a big clay season or good Wimbledon

We're not really talking about reality...just druthers.

The Daviator
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:43 AM
The Wall of Denmark :worship:

Lord Choc Ice
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:17 AM
Vika.

thrust
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:18 AM
Caroline!

Blu€
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:20 AM
I wonder who will be leading this poll :confused:

Carsten
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:21 AM
what a question :lol: Vika of course.

kman
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:24 AM
Everybody SIIIING with me:

WOZ, WOZ, WOZNIACKI!

:bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance:

One more time, come on!

WOZ, WOZ, WOZNIACKI!

:bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance:

YEAH, that's the spirit!


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Lord Choc Ice
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:27 AM
Everybody SIIIING with me:

WOZ, WOZ, WOZNIACKI!

:bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance:

One more time, come on!

WOZ, WOZ, WOZNIACKI!

:bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance:

YEAH, that's the spirit!


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You're really spamming now. :lol:

kman
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:29 AM
Sunshine,
moving to the baseline
she's got the waistline
And it blows my mind!

SoClose
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:58 PM
At the moment? neither have done enough to be worthy :shrug: in the future Vika :)

:yeah:

thegreendestiny
Mar 20th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Dubai 2010-SF Azarenka.

Lindsayfan32
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:49 AM
Anyone but Serena Williams.

AnomyBC
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:55 AM
I think it's funny that you guys still pick Vika even though Caro leads her by every possible statistic :)

Titles
Caro - 6 (soon to be 7!)
Vika - 3

Highest Ranking
Caro - #2
Vika - #6

Win/Loss Ratio
Caro - 0.7054 (highest of any player born after 1987)
Vika - 0.6855

Best Slam Performance
Caro - Final
Vika - Quarterfinals (3x)

Head-to-Head
Caro leads 3-2 (if you count Fed Cup)

Physical Beauty
Caro - 9.5
Vika - 7.0

Mouth/Forehead Size
Caro - 10/10
Vika - 7/8

On Court Collisions
Caro - 1
Vika - 0

Catchiness of Theme Song
Caro - 10
Vika - None Yet Recorded

And Caro achieved all this despite being 1 year younger! I think she may even have more Top 10 wins now. Does anyone have the current stats on that???

ivanban
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:59 AM
mouth/forehead size....on court collisions :tears:

Julian.
Mar 21st, 2010, 09:09 AM
I think it's funny that you guys still pick Vika even though Caro leads her by every possible statistic :)

Titles
Caro - 6 (soon to be 7!)
Vika - 3

Highest Ranking
Caro - #2
Vika - #6

Win/Loss Ratio
Caro - 0.7054 (highest of any player born after 1987)
Vika - 0.6855

Best Slam Performance
Caro - Final
Vika - Quarterfinals (3x)

Head-to-Head
Caro leads 3-2 (if you count Fed Cup)

Physical Beauty
Caro - 9.5
Vika - 7.0

Mouth/Forehead Size
Caro - 10/10
Vika - 7/8

On Court Collisions
Caro - 1
Vika - 0

Catchiness of Theme Song
Caro - 10
Vika - None Yet Recorded

And Caro achieved all this despite being 1 year younger! I think she may even have more Top 10 wins now. Does anyone have the current stats on that???

:rolls:

heart
Mar 21st, 2010, 09:38 AM
wtf! physical beauty:help:

young_gunner913
Mar 21st, 2010, 09:46 AM
Vika.

C. W. Fields
Mar 21st, 2010, 11:16 AM
I want Caro to be #1 some day but not yet, not until she's closer to being all she can be. Her game is maturing but many things could still be better; a harder 2nd serve, more kill in her FH, sharper volleys, learn to do drop shots etc. Long ago I predicted Caro would win her first GS in 2011. If her game keeps developing at the current pace I would like to see her surpass Serena as #1 by beating her in a GS final next year.

I quite like Vika's game. Her two major weaknesses are her serve and a fragile psyche when things don't go her way.

That's probably the biggest difference between the three and why Serena still deserves to be #1.
Serena is a lioness and fights to the last point whatever the circumstances.
Caro is more fluctuating. Sometimes she shows true grit and maturity, other times she gets frustrated too easily and hands her opponent the victory.
Vika; meltdown queen.

Joe.
Mar 21st, 2010, 11:34 AM
vikaa :inlove:

Dodoboy.
Mar 21st, 2010, 11:46 AM
Why Vika? Seriously, she is so inconsistent and not even half as mentally strong as Caro!

Slutiana
Mar 21st, 2010, 11:57 AM
Why Vika? Seriously, she is so inconsistent and not even half as mentally strong as Caro!
But she has more game than Caroline!!! Way more!!

Christinawww
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:00 PM
Vika, because she is my fave. But Caro's results are more number 1 like (hence she will be 2 on Monday and Vika 7). Though I think Vika has better stats when it comes to vs top10 (though neither player has good stats) and also a better winning percentage in WTA level and above (Caro had better ITF thus a better win-loss if you take the numbers from wtatour)

gc-spurs
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:06 PM
caro because i wanna hear all the jokes here

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:10 PM
Vika.:scared: She'd have to have more big titles, overall good results, a better serve and better nerves, though.:shrug:

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:17 PM
I want Caro to be #1 some day but not yet, not until she's closer to being all she can be. Her game is maturing but many things could still be better; a harder 2nd serve, more kill in her FH, sharper volleys, learn to do drop shots etc. Long ago I predicted Caro would win her first GS in 2011. If her game keeps developing at the current pace I would like to see her surpass Serena as #1 by beating her in a GS final next year.


Only at RG.;)


I quite like Vika's game. Her two major weaknesses are her serve and a fragile psyche when things don't go her way.

That's probably the biggest difference between the three and why Serena still deserves to be #1.
Serena is a lioness and fights to the last point whatever the circumstances.
Caro is more fluctuating. Sometimes she shows true grit and maturity, other times she gets frustrated too easily and hands her opponent the victory.
Vika; meltdown queen.

So you're saying that the mental side is the biggest difference between Caro & Vika, Caro & Serena and Serena & Vika?
With Serena and Vika I agree, but there are bigger and more substantial differences between Serena and Caroline. They are pretty much complete opposites game wise.

Dandy_Warhol
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:27 PM
i voted Vika :shrug:

TS
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:31 PM
Azarenka has not come close to a GS final. Doesn't that in itself violate a TennisForum law for future #1s somewhere. I'm sure it does.

Yet she is leading the poll by 2:1

I will never understand this place.

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:40 PM
Azarenka has not come close to a GS final. Doesn't that in itself violate a TennisForum law for future #1s somewhere. I'm sure it does.

Yet she is leading the poll by 2:1

I will never understand this place.

Caro has 1 slam final. I give her that, but that was (so far at least) the only time she ever made it past the 4th round. Slam final >>> 3 slam quarters, but as long as she proves my wrong I think of this as and excpetion.:shrug:

kman
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:52 PM
Azarenka has not come close to a GS final. Doesn't that in itself violate a TennisForum law for future #1s somewhere. I'm sure it does.

Yet she is leading the poll by 2:1

I will never understand this place.

She's only leading here because people here are running a hate campaign against Caro.

You could have a vote poll like this

- Caroline Wozniacki
- Thorny branch in ass

And people would vote for the latter


Statistically, Caroline is ahead of Azarenka in almost every aspect. She leads their head-to-head, she has more titles, better overall results, better win-loss ratio, higher ranking, younger age etc. etc.

C. W. Fields
Mar 21st, 2010, 12:57 PM
So you're saying that the mental side is the biggest difference between Caro & Vika, Caro & Serena and Serena & Vika?
With Serena and Vika I agree, but there are bigger and more substantial differences between Serena and Caroline. They are pretty much complete opposites game wise.

What I mean is that their differences in psyche/fighting spirit is the most important factor in my eyes as to whom of the three deserves to be #1.
Sure Caro and Serena have very different game styles, but Caro doesn't need to learn to play like Serena. She needs some more of Serena's fighting spirit, though, before she deserves the top spot.
Caro has shown she has what it takes on occasion, like against Kuznetsova at USO and Vika at Doha where she turned what looked like certain defeat into victory. But she also has some curious letdowns. Most worrisome in my eyes is how she lost to Li Na at AO. The best way to describe my impression of her from that match is "lack of will". Somehow I can't imagine Serena losing like that in a GS.
I think Caro will get more consistent steel in her spine as she matures but she's not there yet.

sfan
Mar 21st, 2010, 01:01 PM
Can we please not compare Caro with Serena(even though I hate her)?

They are leagues apart in terms of talent; Caro can only dream of hitting a backhand/forehand/volley/serve/return like Serena can.

Dokic-Fan
Mar 21st, 2010, 01:05 PM
I think it's funny that you guys still pick Vika even though Caro leads her by every possible statistic :)

Vika is the better player of the two nevertheless... ;)

TennisFan66
Mar 21st, 2010, 01:13 PM
I havent been on TF much, but from what I've seen/read. My Gud, what a total WUM forum. 'My player is better than your player'. 'She is just a pusher and doesn't deserve to be No blah blah blah'. Too many 12 year olds here.

Anyho, I voted for Caroline. I've followed her for years and is thrilled with her progress and ever improving tennis. IMHO Caroline has the potential to be world No 1 and multiple Slam winner. Time will tell.

That being said, after Caroline, Vika is one of my favourites. I don't care about her mental frailty. She is a wonderful girl and she brings herself to the court. 'What you see is what you get'. Same for both girls btw.

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 21st, 2010, 01:17 PM
What I mean is that their differences in psyche/fighting spirit is the most important factor in my eyes as to whom of the three deserves to be #1.

The best player deserves to be No.1.;)
The heart of a champion doesn't make a champion. It takes more than that. Caro certainly has more, otherwise she wouldn't be the new world No.2, but she still has miles to go before she's even close to deserving the No.1 spot.
And as lousy as Vika's mental stability is, her fighting spirit clearly trumps Caro's, imo!


Sure Caro and Serena have very different game styles, but Caro doesn't need to learn to play like Serena. She needs some more of Serena's fighting spirit, though, before she deserves the top spot.
Caro has shown she has what it takes on occasion, like against Kuznetsova at USO and Vika at Doha where she turned what looked like certain defeat into victory. But she also has some curious letdowns. Most worrisome in my eyes is how she lost to Li Na at AO. The best way to describe my impression of her from that match is "lack of will". Somehow I can't imagine Serena losing like that in a GS.
I think Caro will get more consistent steel in her spine as she matures but she's not there yet.

Again. It's not all about mental toughness, fighting spirit and determination. She needs to beat Serena and all the other top players somewhat regulary, before anybody will accept her ranking as genuine.
I didn't see the match against Vika, but her win against Kuznetsova can partially be attributed to Sveta turning into an unforced error machine. Of course, Caro could have given up on the brink of defeat and I give her credit for hanging in there, but I have yet to see actively her turn a match from let's say being 2-5 down in the third like I've seen Serena, Maria or even Dinara do it.

miffedmax
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:04 PM
Either.

kman
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:17 PM
I havent been on TF much, but from what I've seen/read. My Gud, what a total WUM forum. 'My player is better than your player'. 'She is just a pusher and doesn't deserve to be No blah blah blah'. Too many 12 year olds here.


You're right. This forum is a steaming pile but I get a kick out of watching the haters ball their eyes out.

KV
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:20 PM
Vika

Viktymise
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:26 PM
Pretty tragic that either of these players are being considered as a potential #1. Not a hope that either of these would have made the top 5 even 3 or 4 years ago.

DS.Fan.
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:33 PM
Vika for sure:D I aways think she is better than Caro:p

*Jool*
Mar 21st, 2010, 03:56 PM
Caroline

FormerlyKnownAs
Mar 21st, 2010, 04:15 PM
I think it's funny that you guys still pick Vika even though Caro leads her by every possible statistic :)

Titles
Caro - 6 (soon to be 7!)
Vika - 3

Highest Ranking
Caro - #2
Vika - #6

Win/Loss Ratio
Caro - 0.7054 (highest of any player born after 1987)
Vika - 0.6855

Best Slam Performance
Caro - Final
Vika - Quarterfinals (3x)

Head-to-Head
Caro leads 3-2 (if you count Fed Cup)

Physical Beauty
Caro - 9.5
Vika - 7.0

Mouth/Forehead Size
Caro - 10/10
Vika - 7/8

On Court Collisions
Caro - 1
Vika - 0

Catchiness of Theme Song
Caro - 10
Vika - None Yet Recorded

And Caro achieved all this despite being 1 year younger! I think she may even have more Top 10 wins now. Does anyone have the current stats on that???

You forgot that Caroline has bigger "titles"

M-K
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:00 PM
Everybody SIIIING with me:

WOZ, WOZ, WOZNIACKI!

:bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance:

One more time, come on!

WOZ, WOZ, WOZNIACKI!

:bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance: :bigclap: :dance:

YEAH, that's the spirit!


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You are truly making me feel embarrassed to be Danish.

Anyway, Vika if course, who actually DOES something to win a match.