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sasha&tennis
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:32 PM
As much as I hate to say it Ana and Maria's best days are behind them. Sharapova is too fragile now having to constantly over compensate for her shoulder she is now having elbow problems. Ana is just too mental and that is basically all her problem is now. As much as I would love for this thread to slap me in the face one day they have both had plenty of time to show that they can be contenders again in the big tournaments & so far neither has past the test.

What is your take on this?

Mightymirza
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:37 PM
Pova won a title recently :shrug: Ana on the other hand :tape: :help:

Conor
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:37 PM
Ivanovic, yes. She's a mental case, everything about her game is unreliable. I still think Sharapova has a lot more to give, so I wouldn't rule her out.

FaceyFacem
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:38 PM
probably right, but you never really know... maria's body is falling apart, if she took an extended break it might hold up for awhile again, but i don't think she'll be a dominant #1 again. ana's problems are all mental, but the problem is almost no one comes back from serve issues... she'll need a lot of help, but she won't be #1 and i'd say it's 99.5% sure she'll not win another major, but no reason she can't get back to the bottom of the top 10 since she's so young

petkoan
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:39 PM
I believe that only for the fact that they have done it before (won GS title, been number 1 and so on) it means that they are capable of doing it again. It is up to them. Don't count them out

Julian.
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:41 PM
and this is like what? 87897709809382930980293023232'th thread about this. :help:

Bobisa
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:45 PM
and this is like what? 87897709809382930980293023232'th thread about this. :help:
no... this is 87897709809382930980293023233'th thread :lol:

Kipling
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:46 PM
These women are only 22 years old, for Chrissakes. Some of you act like everything has to happen within the next five minutes or it won't happen at all.

Whatever either of them has to do--be it get healthy, develop a new serve, or new technique, it takes a long time, measured in months or years, not days or weeks. Sharapova's physical condition _may_ ultimately limit her accomplishments, but it's way too early to say that. And any of the amateur psychos--I mean, uh, "psychologists"--who think they know what's going on in Ana's head or in Maria's head need to join the Tiger-Woods'-personal-life-is-my-business crowd and get a life.

Richie's
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:52 PM
+ Hantuchova

faboozadoo15
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:55 PM
It's very odd that Sharapova is holding 2 titles right now with how she's been playing.

madmax
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:01 PM
O rly? And yet Pova is still holding 2 titles and a premier final after her comeback last summer...that pretty much proves to me that she is stil contending when her body allows her to. As for Ana, well, dunno what is heppening with her, you may be right indeed

skanky~skanketta
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:09 PM
I dislike them both, but NEVER count out a champion.

King Halep
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Ana has a good coach now, he will get something out of her.

sweetpeas
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:14 PM
Never say never!

RFSTB
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:20 PM
I think both of these players should take a 2 year break from tennis, Maria to let her body fully heal, and Ana to get her head and heart together.

Joe.
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:22 PM
seriously, there is no need for so many threads about this. :rolleyes:

Curtos07
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:18 PM
These threads are getting ridiculous. :rolleyes:

First of all, they're both 22. They got plenty of years ahead of them and they both know what it takes to get to the top. They done it before. Does it look bleak right now? Yes, particularly in Ana's case. But I haven't given up hope. I still believe Ana can be a top 10 player again. Not this year, but down the road.

fufuqifuqishahah
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:20 PM
Sure they aren't nearly as scary as they were before and they can have some horrendous losses quite frequently, butthey can also still string some good runs on occasion which is sometimes all that's needed for a former GS champion to win another GS.

Midnight_Robber
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:24 PM
Since you are a Venus fan (if your sig is anything to go by), I fail to understand why you would even start a thread like this. :o

Cp6uja
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:29 PM
I'm very big fan of Ivanovic, and big fan of Sharapova... but I must agree with opening post :sad:

WTA future (new decade) belong to 28yo Serena Williams, 29yo Venus Williams, 27yo Justine Henin and 28yo Elena Dementieva (+Lindsay Davenport or/and Martina Hingis if rumors about comebacks is true).

VishaalMaria
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:00 AM
O rly? And yet Pova is still holding 2 titles and a premier final after her comeback last summer...that pretty much proves to me that she is stil contending when her body allows her to. As for Ana, well, dunno what is heppening with her, you may be right indeed

If only you're this clear headed and optimistic about other players.

Aaric
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:08 AM
Maybe Ana. Not Maria.

Tennisstar86
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:19 AM
they arent contenders right now....but they could be... you never know (Maria more likely than Ana)
Ana was really only a contender for 1 year...the rest of the time she was just a dark horse....shes never been consistant. Even her French Open run was out of the blue... she played horrible that season. I say Maria is more likely to possibly come back...she is a multi slam champ all it takes is for her to get in the groove then it will taken someone better than her to beat her... Im not so sure about Ana though....

Volcana
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:20 AM
What is your take on this?There's a big difference between 'no longer contenders' and 'not contenders at the moment'.

Jankovic looked like her days as a contender were behind her, til two ago. Suddenly, she's looking relevant again.

osseous
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:03 AM
The Fallen shall Rise.

thegreendestiny
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:09 AM
Ana did have not any major injuries for her to crash like.

DragonFlame
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:19 AM
Ana´s game has fallen apart. Both technically and mentally, she needs the new coaching. Lets see what she does with it. I really hope he can fix her, but it will take time. A LOT OF TIME.

Maria´s fallen apart physically, the shoulder just doesn´t hold up on the serve. She cannot hit it consistantly hard anymore, there´s a lot of room for opponents to get in the game now. Opponents are exploiting this left and right.
The question will be if she´ll ever recover...

IMO she hasn´t improved since she returned to the tour in 08. Yes, she won 2 titles, but one is a MM title and the other is a title in the POOREST premier tourney of the last 5 years IMO. Quality in Tokio was absolutely DREADFULL.

Those were the worst 2 weeks on tour, Tokio and Beijing last year. Just allround shit from everyone.

Tennisstar86
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:37 AM
Ana´s game has fallen apart. Both technically and mentally, she needs the new coaching. Lets see what she does with it. I really hope he can fix her, but it will take time. A LOT OF TIME.

Maria´s fallen apart physically, the shoulder just doesn´t hold up on the serve. She cannot hit it consistantly hard anymore, there´s a lot of room for opponents to get in the game now. Opponents are exploiting this left and right.
The question will be if she´ll ever recover...

IMO she hasn´t improved since she returned to the tour in 08. Yes, she won 2 titles, but one is a MM title and the other is a title in the POOREST premier tourney of the last 5 years IMO. Quality in Tokio was absolutely DREADFULL.

Those were the worst 2 weeks on tour, Tokio and Beijing last year. Just allround shit from everyone.

well, I think Maria should go to a plan b on her serve for awhile.... sure she needs the fast balls against the best players, but she can outplay a lot of the girls shes losing to from the baseline. She should slow it up a bit on purpose, heck spin it in (Clijsters does). IF she stopped double faulting she'd win a lot of these matches and it would help her get a rhythm so that in the later stages of a match shed actually get some first serves in....

shoparound
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:41 AM
Was Ana ever an intimidating contender?

n1ko0
Mar 20th, 2010, 04:16 AM
i can only wish that these two would regain the mindsets they had this time 2 years ago, maria a recent OZ open champ and ana a soon to be FO champ....however ana is fading into nothing and maria currently cant beat a player inside the top 50 without a real struggle if at all.. if one of them has more belief i think (and hope) its maria and she could be a slam contender again next year (this year would take some real commitment and something special) but ana needs to somehow forget she was number 1 (as that seemed to be her downfall in the end) and ust realise what a talented player she was. For her to be a Nicole mark II would be such a real shame

thegreendestiny
Mar 20th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Was Ana ever an intimidating contender?

When she pumps her fist with a 180 degrees back swing screaming Ajde after an unforced error, she is.
When she squeeks her shoes deliberately to distract you when you are about to serve, she is.
:scared:

Curtos07
Mar 20th, 2010, 05:20 AM
When she pumps her fist with a 180 degrees back swing screaming Ajde after an unforced error, she is.
When she squeeks her shoes deliberately to distract you when you are about to serve, she is.
:scared:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

They day you do anything productive in life and make a quality post will be the day hell freezes over. You and Kwrob.

shaktincredible
Mar 20th, 2010, 08:04 AM
they both going to be comeback strong (someday) i'm sure.

shaktincredible
Mar 20th, 2010, 08:05 AM
they both going to be comeback strong (someday) i'm sure. :tape:

Pops Maellard
Mar 20th, 2010, 08:08 AM
Maria's sort of down, but not out. I think she'll fight tooth and nail to come back fully. Ana on the other hand, it remains to be seen. Her new coach has a LOT of work to do. :tape:

Nikkiri
Mar 20th, 2010, 08:09 AM
Yeah.

Costanza
Mar 20th, 2010, 08:36 AM
they arent contenders right now....but they could be... you never know (Maria more likely than Ana)
Ana was really only a contender for 1 year...the rest of the time she was just a dark horse....shes never been consistant. Even her French Open run was out of the blue... she played horrible that season. I say Maria is more likely to possibly come back...she is a multi slam champ all it takes is for her to get in the groove then it will taken someone better than her to beat her... Im not so sure about Ana though....

:spit:
Yeah,right!AO runner-up,Indian Wells champ and Berlin semifinal prior to RG.
French Open was run out of the blue?:lol:
Maybe you should check who was playing 2007 RG final;)

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 20th, 2010, 09:16 AM
Maria is still a contender

As for Ana , Adam Scott can win a major for her

Costanza
Mar 20th, 2010, 09:24 AM
Maria is still a contender

As for Ana , Adam Scott can win a major for her

Question is,who will win a major for lil'Lena?
Maxim Afinogenov,Mother Vera...

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 20th, 2010, 09:30 AM
Question is,who will win a major for lil'Lena?
Maxim Afinogenov

Playing for the right time , Washington - Pittsburgh , Max could
A line with Ponikarovsky , Malkin and Max would be lethal ..

Mrs. Dimitrova
Mar 20th, 2010, 09:34 AM
Maria isn't playing that crappy at the moment compared to the other one. :unsure:

thegreendestiny
Mar 20th, 2010, 11:21 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

They day you do anything productive in life and make a quality post will be the day hell freezes over. You and Kwrob.

Please, Kworb is an irrational hater. My dislike for Ana is grounded on the principles of truth, reason and justice. :wavey:

madlove
Mar 20th, 2010, 12:35 PM
ana is long gone and maria could still upset once in awhile..