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donniedarkofan
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:21 PM
I bet this video has been posted here, but i'm not that sure it got the recognition it deserved. Like most tennis players, Wozniacki and Azarenka don't give a damn about what their label is. If you wanna call me a pusher, then pusher it is. It's funny though, only the fans care about a things like pusher or brainless ball basher. Tennis players tend not to focus on that and they barely care about that someone is a pusher and the other is a power player. Of course, playing style is very important, especially when you're constructing a plan before an important match, but that's it. There's no constant drama about how someone is a pusher or ball basher or whatever. Look at the video, mark 1:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy9zF1l63v0&feature=related
btw Wozniacki probably had a really bad hangover

Cosantoir
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:22 PM
We would know Wozniacki doesn't care by her continuing to play like that without remorse anyway.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:25 PM
She should

Midnight_Robber
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:27 PM
We would know Wozniacki doesn't care by her continuing to play like that without remorse anyway.
:lol:

Tennisstar86
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:27 PM
well, obviously....and the players themselves do care...especially when they are young... but its usually just an excuse and will defend their game style regardless. If a "ball basher" loses to a "pusher" its basically I just beat myself. If a pusher loses to a ball basher they get called for "teeing" off on everything and not knowing what real tennis is. Everyone whose ever played the game is guilty of discrediting an opponent a time or two or many. when the truth is their strategy beat them so they're just bitter.....

I dont go either way for Caro, shes a decent player. Im only against her being at the top, without actually beating the top players or having the results (only passed the 4th round at a major once :tape:) I could see if it was well everyone else lost all the time she cant help that, but its just not the case. she loses also.

donniedarkofan
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:30 PM
well, obviously....and the players themselves do care...especially when they are young... but its usually just an excuse and will defend their game style regardless. If a "ball basher" loses to a "pusher" its basically I just beat myself. If a pusher loses to a ball basher they get called for "teeing" off on everything and not knowing what real tennis is. Everyone whose ever played the game is guilty of discrediting an opponent a time or two or many. when the truth is their strategy beat them so they're just bitter.....

I dont go either way for Caro, shes a decent player. Im only against her being at the top, without actually beating the top players or having the results (only passed the 4th round at a major once :tape:) I could see if it was well everyone else lost all the time she cant help that, but its just not the case. she loses also.

That's a good point, but...a young tennis player is not a complete tennis player. They're often whining about everything. I know, i played my whole life, i saw people growing up and respecting each others game, without calling names and being disrespectful. That's something very rare among WTA world users.

Six Feet Under
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:32 PM
There's nothing wrong with being a pusher :rolleyes:
It may be a boring style to watch, but it is effective if your good at it.

She should be proud :)

Hayato
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:43 PM
What a great video :lol: Take that to all those boring people who never stop going on about it!
She can't have had a hangover since she's never been drunk. :D
I'm liking her more and more:)

donniedarkofan
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:44 PM
What a great video :lol:
She can't have had a hangover since she's never been drunk. :D
I'm liking her more and more:)

Well, she looks like she's had enough, or maybe she's just hyper.:lol:

Melange
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:45 PM
if she plays too many 3 hour matches then she might look for a way to end points faster, bit like nadal is thinking of doing

goldenlox
Mar 18th, 2010, 09:51 PM
Wozniacki is about to be #2 in the world. She made the USO final last year.
Of the players younger than Ivanovic and Sharapova(and they look to be in career turmoil) Caro has the best results.

Nicolás89
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:04 PM
She shouldn't, she is the WTA version of Murray. :)

donniedarkofan
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:05 PM
I bet she reads this forum :lol:


She shouldn't care at all. After all, she'll be #2 in the world on Monday and we'll be sat here at our computers...typing.

Exactly.

goldenlox
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:11 PM
I would think she is very excited about where she is, in the current sports landscape.
She is playing well again after a slow start this year.
In marketing she is wearing Stella McCartney exclusives for adidas and just signed a Rolex deal.

She has things going pretty well for a college age girl.

Melange
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:27 PM
She shouldn't, she is the WTA version of Murray. :)

Murray is way better than that and more likely to win a major

adner
Mar 18th, 2010, 10:50 PM
She shouldn't, she is the WTA version of Murray. :)
Have you ever seen Wozniacki hit a slice without her opponent hitting it first?

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2010, 12:31 AM
We would know Wozniacki doesn't care by her continuing to play like that without remorse anyway.She does stop to count her money. Then she lies in a pile of it and asks herself if there's an easier way to make a living.

edificio
Mar 19th, 2010, 12:33 AM
And she should not care. She should just strive to get better. There are critics everywhere. It is best to ignore them if you want to remain sane and confident.

Stevecw
Mar 19th, 2010, 12:50 AM
I bet she reads this forum :lol:


She shouldn't care at all. After all, she'll be #2 in the world on Monday and we'll be sat here at our computers...typing.

Yep damn right, and her game works. She is consistant, and is hard to beat. So well done to her, and she will be a well deserved no 2. Sick of all the haters she has here, why so many??? She is nice on court, doesn't lose the head like Vika, or maybe fist pump so much like Ana or whatever turns people against certain players.

Don't get it at all.

Sund7101
Mar 19th, 2010, 01:58 AM
Wozniacki is a consistent counter puncher, but I feel that she needs to add more variety to her game if she wants to win a slam, this she should care about.

KournikovaFan91
Mar 19th, 2010, 02:39 AM
Yep damn right, and her game works. She is consistant, and is hard to beat. So well done to her, and she will be a well deserved no 2. Sick of all the haters she has here, why so many??? She is nice on court, doesn't lose the head like Vika, or maybe fist pump so much like Ana or whatever turns people against certain players.

Don't get it at all.

I dunno why she has all the haters. :shrug: I love Vika but can see why people dislike her but with Caro I don't get the hate.:confused:

Svetlana)))
Mar 19th, 2010, 02:55 AM
Have you ever seen Wozniacki hit a slice without her opponent hitting it first?

It's two-handed :help:

Cosantoir
Mar 19th, 2010, 02:59 AM
It's two-handed :help:

Kournikova's two-handed slice was effective. That's not the issue, her slice just sucks period.

Malva
Mar 19th, 2010, 03:58 AM
I find quite interesting to watch how Caroline returns so called 'unreturnable' shots blasted left and right at her by supposedly 'superior', 'more talented' players. I would go even further and say that a lot of so called 'unforced' errors of her opponents are quite forced by her ability to return nearly anything they blast her with. And that leads to them either becoming impatient, losing their cool, taking unreasonable risks, etc, in other words in their losing control of the ball.

For me somebody's ability to return all these nearly-impossible-to-return shots is a treat in itself to watch, an then, when the opponent is spent and mentally tired, to watch her doing a 'kill' with, for example, a 'puff-ball' is an even greater treat.

For me it is always more exciting to observe a David outsmarting a Goliath, than a Goliath bullying a David with his power. In women's tennis in recent years there were far too many muscular robots, emitting high-frequency shrieks each time they blasted the ball, for me not to enjoy presence of players like Janković, Woźniacki, or Radwańska.

I am writing this without necessary being one of Caroline's fans. Just to put check on the hysteria reigning for the last day or two in the tennisforum.

Malva
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:08 AM
And she should not care. She should just strive to get better. There are critics everywhere. It is best to ignore them if you want to remain sane and confident.

It is always advisable to accept criticism except when it comes from people displaying no trace of good will. Those are just venom spitting haters -- best to leave them alone and let them marinate themselves in their own poison.

skanky~skanketta
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:10 AM
Well, what's baffling with Caro is that she is capable of much more. I've seen her thump her BH and it's a pretty powerful weapon. Her serve too, she can get some nice power on it and being tall, the trajectory is higher which makes it a solid weapon. Her current playing style is fine, but I'm just worried that she'll forget to use her other strengths when "pushing" is not working.

skanky~skanketta
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:15 AM
I find quite interesting to watch how Caroline returns so called 'unreturnable' shots blasted left and right at her by supposedly 'superior', 'more talented' players. I would go even further and say that a lot of so called 'unforced' errors of her opponents are quite forced by her ability to return nearly anything they blast her with. And that leads to them either becoming impatient, losing their cool, taking unreasonable risks, etc, in other words in their losing control of the ball.

For me somebody's ability to return all these nearly-impossible-to-return shots is a treat in itself to watch, an then, when the opponent is spent and mentally tired, to watch her doing a 'kill' with, for example, a 'puff-ball' is an even greater treat.

For me it is always more exciting to observe a David outsmarting a Goliath, than a Goliath bullying a David with his power. In women's tennis in recent years there were far too many muscular robots, emitting high-frequency shrieks each time they blasted the ball, for me not to enjoy presence of players like Janković, Woźniacki, or Radwańska.

I am writing this without necessary being one of Caroline's fans. Just to put check on the hysteria reigning for the last day or two in the tennisforum.
Very true, but when her opponent is having a really good day, she could change her game plan and try something a little different and mux it with her stellar defensive abilities.

PushniackiNeva#1
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Don't like either.

Malva
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:46 AM
Very true, but when her opponent is having a really good day, she could change her game plan and try something a little different and mux it with her stellar defensive abilities.

You are certainly right. And indeed, I prefer a player displaying greater variety, who spices the rallies with something interesting and unexpected, even at the cost of some of Caroline's outstanding defensive abilities. Still, I see Caroline as a Nemesis of all of those robots on women's courts with their cheap 'aggression' mistaken for 'tennis skills'. For if her opponent's skills are genuine, then her defensive skills have to be equally great. I find a lot of fun in her attitude «you want to beat me? -- go ahead, try it», and her being able to deliver on it.

The scorn heaped on her in the tennisforum is mostly a reflection of impotent rage of the fans of her defeated opponents. If I were her, it would give me a special kind of satisfaction.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:16 AM
I dunno why she has all the haters. :shrug: I love Vika but can see why people dislike her but with Caro I don't get the hate.:confused:

That just goes to show you it's about her GAME. Many simply don't like it of which I'm one.

Of course she doesn't give a damn about being a pusher. She's gettin' paid doin it. We're the ones that have to suffer through watching it.

Nikkiri
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:17 AM
Cool.

fantic
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:20 AM
The scorn heaped on her in the tennisforum is mostly a reflection of impotent rage of the fans of her defeated opponents. If I were her, it would give me a special kind of satisfaction.

Malva. Your sig. Is it the famous piano player? I have some of his albums..(a novice at Classical Music though. Can't understand Mahler though I'm listening to it. Maybe I should first read a book or something :lol:)

fantic
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:22 AM
It's not up to her to adopt a losing strategy and accommodate others. It's up to others to step up to the plate and beat her.

THIS.

Prizeidiot
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:23 AM
"Pusher" and "brainless ball basher" - I didn't think those terms existed outside of the forums. Maybe the players do read this stuff after all. :p

kman
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:24 AM
Of course she doesn't care. She's a multi-millionaire living the good life while her critics are a bunch of sore-ass losers.

Malva speaks the truth.

Six Feet Under
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:28 AM
all of the people at tennis call pushers "puddlers" and have no idea what a pusher is :o

kman
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:35 AM
all of the people at tennis call pushers "puddlers" and have no idea what a pusher is :o

I've seen the term "pusher" being used by journalists over at tennis.com

It's not a tennisforum exclusive term.

Malva
Mar 19th, 2010, 07:32 AM
Malva. Your sig. Is it the famous piano player? I have some of his albums.

Yes. I had a rare pleasure of attending some of his performances, and once even sitting close to him in the audience. But this is not the reason I put his quote in my signature: his quote just happens to very aptly express how I feel about the press myself.

(a novice at Classical Music though. Can't understand Mahler though I'm listening to it. Maybe I should first read a book or something :lol:)

To appreciate Classical Music takes time and effort. Anything that is of real value does. Start from what seems accessible to you and gradually develop your musical tastes and interests. Such things really need to be developed.

In late 20-th Century I suggest to start from Arvo Pärt and Henryk Górecki. Each -- a master, each quite accessible. I used to listen a lot to avant-garde but that time passed, and perhaps avant-garde (Varèse, Ligeti, Stockhausen, Xenakis) is not for everybody. In mid 20-th Century -- I suggest Shostakovich and Prokofiev. As a kid I was absolutely mesmerized by Shostakovich's music. Later, Olivier Messiaen's organ music cast a spell on me. Powerful and deep.

19-th Century abounds with great names. I am sure you know many, just would like to mention Camille Saint-Saëns, Gabriel Fauré, César Franck, the three French late Romantics whose music is both accessible, profoundly beautiful, and much less known than, say, Brahms or Tchaikovsky.

If for Mahler you aren't ready yet, try Anton Bruckner. His music is phenomenal. And then do not forget that earlier centuries produced enormous amount of beautiful music too. Beyond Vivaldi who is incredibly accessible, beautiful, and popular, it may take time to start appreciate the mastery say of Haydn or even Mozart, or one of the greatest composers of early Baroque, Claudio Monteverdi.

One generally starts from symphonies, concertos, piano pieces, and later moves to chamber music (sonatas, quartets, trios). Quartets are perhaps among the most demanding musical forms from a listener's point of view. They also help to develop appreciation of Classical Music as nothing else.

Reading about composers indeed may help in the initiation process. I don't know how do you listen to Classical Music -- I always listen alone -- presence of another person for me is a distraction. One exception was listening with my musicologist friend. Another is when I attend a public performance.

Good luck in your musical development!

[I apologize to everybody else for a post not related to tennis: I am just answering a question]

Pops Maellard
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:08 AM
I've seen the term "pusher" being used by journalists over at tennis.com

It's not a tennisforum exclusive term.
Yup at Wimbledon last year I think Pat Rafter was commentating a Roddick match, he was saying that Roddick was "pushing the ball around the court". :p

matthias
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:22 AM
with a full bank-account like woznikacki i wouldn´t care about it too

Slutiana
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:26 AM
She shouldn't, she is the WTA version of Murray. :)
Lol, she really isn't. I dislike the guy IMMENSLY but he wins through his variety, tactics and he does have the ability to play adecent enough offensive game. And he has great volleys.

The problem is with the other top players. If and when they begin to play again, that should be the end of wozniacki as ironically, she has no plan b, but sadly for the state of the WTA, this looks a long way off at the moment.

Apoleb
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:30 AM
Yup at Wimbledon last year I think Pat Rafter was commentating a Roddick match, he was saying that Roddick was "pushing the ball around the court". :p

Chris Evert used the term in the RG 98 final. She was the first pioneer. :worship:

Cookie Power
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:36 AM
She's secretly embarrassed. As she should be.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:38 AM
Her career won´t last so much time playing like this ---> a tennis too demanding for her body

She should give a shit

pav
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:45 AM
Woz has been called a pusher
I've been called a puller
neither one of us gives a fat rat's fuck
but her bank account's much fuller!

kman
Mar 19th, 2010, 09:52 AM
Her career won´t last so much time playing like this ---> a tennis too demanding for her body

She should give a shit

No she shouldn't. Because according to her, she plans to retire early to raise a family and live a regular life.

kman
Mar 19th, 2010, 09:53 AM
She's secretly embarrassed. As she should be.

You're secretly jealous. As you should be.

AnnaK_4ever
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:04 AM
No she shouldn't. Because according to her, she plans to retire early to raise a family and live a regular life.

Nothing will change for her though. Even while giving birth to her baby she will have to push, push and push in order to succeed.

Hashim.
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:08 AM
Nothing will change for her though. Even while giving birth to her baby she will have to push, push and push in order to succeed.

:sobbing:

goldenlox
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:08 AM
Yet Caro controls the points in her matches. So she is a pusher who outhits her opponents.
The only time Nadia was in control is when she hit a big serve.
Every other point Caro was dictating, and dominating for most of the match

I wonder if people who post here even watch tennis

Marilyn Monheaux
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:24 AM
Nothing will change for her though. Even while giving birth to her baby she will have to push, push and push in order to succeed.

:bigcry:

JadeFox
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:40 AM
Yet Caro controls the points in her matches. So she is a pusher who outhits her opponents.
The only time Nadia was in control is when she hit a big serve.
Every other point Caro was dictating, and dominating for most of the match

I wonder if people who post here even watch tennis

I have wondered this sentence too many times to count when it comes to TF.

Cookie Power
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:43 AM
You're secretly jealous. As you should be.

Secretly? :confused:

I'd kill for her money.

kman
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:05 AM
Nothing will change for her though. Even while giving birth to her baby she will have to push, push and push in order to succeed.

You got that joke from me lol...

stangtennis
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:39 AM
Nothing will change for her though. Even while giving birth to her baby she will have to push, push and push in order to succeed.
I wonder if she will also turn into a screamer like Monica Seles and most of the WTA girls since her, when she's giving birth, or if she will remain silent.
Imagine having to hear someone like Sharapova or Azarenka givng birth. Doctors and nursers will have to be wearing these:
:lol::help:
http://www.kej.dk/data/files/Billeder/Bekldning/Hjelmejenoghrevrn/hqvhrevrnmedbjle_small.jpg

Noctis
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:43 AM
So does Eurosport .

Cosantoir
Mar 19th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Nothing will change for her though. Even while giving birth to her baby she will have to push, push and push in order to succeed.

:lol:

Yet Caro controls the points in her matches. So she is a pusher who outhits her opponents.
The only time Nadia was in control is when she hit a big serve.
Every other point Caro was dictating, and dominating for most of the match

I wonder if people who post here even watch tennis

Petrova is slow so Wozniacki being able to dictate some rallies isn't surprising. Against anyone with movement for example her H2H with Jankovic, Wozniacki dictates nothing.

fantic
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:34 PM
Good luck in your musical development!

[I apologize to everybody else for a post not related to tennis: I am just answering a question]

Ooh, thanks for the precious info! Hope others won't mind too :cool:

delicatecutter
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:51 PM
No she shouldn't. Because according to her, she plans to retire early to raise a family and live a regular life.

Best news I've heard all day! :yeah:

joão.
Mar 19th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Cute video.

rucolo
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:36 PM
Great attitude from Caro and Vika.:yeah:

That`s the best: Just laugh about it.

faboozadoo15
Mar 19th, 2010, 05:54 PM
wow, this really makes me feel like the players read these forums. :scared:
the way she exaggeratedly said "brainless ball basher" is pretty unique...

goldenlox
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:26 PM
They also joked about it on twitter.
But its an easy way to classify players.
If you dont hit a lot of aces, and you dont hit huge groundstrokes, you're a pusher. It doesnt mean that a player cant ever hit with pace, its just not how they usually develop a point

Elwin.
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:52 PM
Loved that vid :haha:

changel
Mar 19th, 2010, 06:58 PM
She is right, who can give a damn about that game?

BournemouthBoy
Mar 19th, 2010, 07:04 PM
i feel sorry for people on this forum who can't appriciate talented, smart counter punchers.

DOUBLEFIST
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:27 PM
i feel sorry for people on this forum who can't appriciate talented, smart counter punchers.
For me, there's a difference between a counter puncher and a "pusher."

laurie
Mar 19th, 2010, 08:42 PM
I bet this video has been posted here, but i'm not that sure it got the recognition it deserved. Like most tennis players, Wozniacki and Azarenka don't give a damn about what their label is. If you wanna call me a pusher, then pusher it is. It's funny though, only the fans care about a things like pusher or brainless ball basher. Tennis players tend not to focus on that and they barely care about that someone is a pusher and the other is a power player. Of course, playing style is very important, especially when you're constructing a plan before an important match, but that's it. There's no constant drama about how someone is a pusher or ball basher or whatever. Look at the video, mark 1:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy9zF1l63v0&feature=related
btw Wozniacki probably had a really bad hangover

Excellent :worship: Its nice to see the players can make fun of their own games, they must read these forums.

Pops Maellard
Mar 19th, 2010, 10:53 PM
For me, there's a difference between a counter puncher and a "pusher."
Exactly. :bowdown:

Many people look at the two like it's the same thing, but it's so not.

kman
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:33 AM
Exactly. :bowdown:

Many people look at the two like it's the same thing, but it's so not.

Defensive counter-puncher = "pusher"

Svetlana)))
Mar 20th, 2010, 01:54 AM
Defensive counter-puncher = "pusher"

Wrong, a counter-puncher will be aggressive if the time arises. OTOH, Caro will NEVER be aggressive even if the ball was 5 feet from the net, 10 feet in the air and there was nobody on the other side of the court. A counter-puncher would be someone like Arantxa-Sanchez or Lleyton Hewitt, they were not the most aggressive players but seized opportunities when they were presented with it.

Mightymirza
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:50 AM
Its not like she can do too much about it :shrug:

Keadz
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:52 AM
She is being pretty aggresive today :)...well so far anyway.

Mynarco
Mar 20th, 2010, 02:58 AM
5 winner for the first 3 games :eek: so not Caro

Gdsimmons
Mar 20th, 2010, 03:05 AM
Did she hear Serena withdrew from Miami??

charmedRic
Mar 21st, 2010, 06:35 PM
priceless call-out to the haterz

hater
Mar 21st, 2010, 07:25 PM
She looks horrible in that dress.. I wonder if Stella MC & adidas are regreting have chosen her instead of Kirilenko! FAILURE! She might care about this!

Tennisstar86
Mar 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM
She looks horrible in that dress.. I wonder if Stella MC & adidas are regreting have chosen her instead of Kirilenko! FAILURE! She might care about this!

everything they give her looks bad..... and they keep using that same greyish/ tan colors...

DragonFlame
Mar 21st, 2010, 07:55 PM
Can´t believe i´m saying this but her pushing against big players/in finals is incredibly mediocre...

Disappointed with her right now. She's playing her worst match of the week, forehand breaking down, serving incredibly bad, returning incredibly bad against a jankovic with a 1st serve % below 50%. She's an UE machine right now.

It looked like she was improving but this is the same wozniacki we saw in 09 finals... Disappointing me right now.

Viktymise
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:06 PM
Can´t believe i´m saying this but her pushing against big players/in finals is incredibly mediocre...

Disappointed with her right now. She's playing her worst match of the week, forehand breaking down, serving incredibly bad, returning incredibly bad against a jankovic with a 1st serve % below 50%. She's an UE machine right now.

It looked like she was improving but this is the same wozniacki we saw in 09 finals... Disappointing me right now.

She's a poor man's Jankovic. What did you expect?

DragonFlame
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:07 PM
She's a poor man's Jankovic. What did you expect?

Come on... you must see that she can play A LOT better then she's playing right now. She made what, 21 UE in that set? This is just downright sad...

Viktymise
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:18 PM
Come on... you must see that she can play A LOT better then she's playing right now. She made what, 21 UE in that set? This is just downright sad...

She's being schooled by a player who at her best does absolutely everything better than Wozniacki. Faster/better defender, hits a smoother ball, hits more consistently deep, better match player/tactician. The minute Jankovic cranks up the pace of the rally Wozniacki is in trouble. She can't beat Jankovic in this form the way she's been playing all week, so she's being forced to take more risks from the baseline but her technique just isn't good enough to do so and is breaking down. She has absolutely no mid-court game so she can't finish Jankovic's loopy defensive shots at the net either so this is her only option.

moby
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:22 PM
She's being schooled by a player who at her best does absolutely everything better than Wozniacki. Faster/better defender, hits a smoother ball, hits more consistently deep, better match player/tactician. The minute Jankovic cranks up the pace of the rally Wozniacki is in trouble. She can't beat Jankovic in this form the way she's been playing all week, so she's being forced to take more risks from the baseline but her technique just isn't good enough to do so and is breaking down. She has absolutely no mid-court game so she can't finish Jankovic's loopy defensive shots at the net either so this is her only option.Exactly how I see it too.

It was so cute when Woz (out of desperation) tried to be aggressive and hit harder at the end of the first set/ start of the second set, and ended up hitting the wildest club-level errors. This is why she pushes. She can't play any other way with success.

Apoleb
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:29 PM
Wozniacki should just push. She played like a BBB in the first/early second. Now that she's pushing, she's been more successful. But I agree that even with the pushing, JJ has enough to beat her if she plays well. But at least there's an "if."

Mynarco
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:32 PM
Wozniacki should just push. She played like a BBB in the first/early second. Now that she's pushing, she's been more successful. But I agree that even with the pushing, JJ has enough to beat her if she plays well.

BBB?

The Dawntreader
Mar 21st, 2010, 08:34 PM
She's being schooled by a player who at her best does absolutely everything better than Wozniacki. Faster/better defender, hits a smoother ball, hits more consistently deep, better match player/tactician. The minute Jankovic cranks up the pace of the rally Wozniacki is in trouble. She can't beat Jankovic in this form the way she's been playing all week, so she's being forced to take more risks from the baseline but her technique just isn't good enough to do so and is breaking down. She has absolutely no mid-court game so she can't finish Jankovic's loopy defensive shots at the net either so this is her only option.

This....

Exactly how I see it too.

It was so cute when Woz (out of desperation) tried to be aggressive and hit harder at the end of the first set/ start of the second set, and ended up hitting the wildest club-level errors. This is why she pushes. She can't play any other way with success.

and this.

Wozniacki is not a defensive player because she perceives playing aggressivelly as vulgar, or bad taste. Her aggressive instincts are mimimal, if non-existant, and she has no ability to break up Jankovic's game efficiently or effectively.

The thing that makes me laugh SO much, is that posters vilify players such as Kuznetsova, Venus, Serena etc as brainless and inept at any kind of tactical approach, but they can exploit Jankovic's weaknesses better than most, able to switch up the direction, length, pace of the ball better than anything Wozniacki can envisage.

This is the way of things.