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Привет
Feb 12th, 2010, 09:26 PM
That has to be a first, surely..?

Of course some people don't agree with the way that Kazakhstan recruit their players, but you can't deny that both Karatantcheva and Shvedova compete with the KAZ next to their name.

iPatty
Feb 12th, 2010, 10:01 PM
Yes, of course it is the first time two players playing for Kazakhstan reach the semifinals of a WTA event. However, they are not Kazakhs. Wait until Zarina Diyas starts reaching WTA semifinals to make this distinction. ;)

Привет
Feb 12th, 2010, 10:05 PM
So when Diyas makes a WTA semifinal I should make a thread about two Kazakhs making the SFs of the one WTA event? :confused:

Anyway, if they compete with Kazakhstan next to their name, it's good enough for me.

iPatty
Feb 12th, 2010, 10:10 PM
Well aren't you clever. My meaning was clear enough.

Obviously you wouldn't do that if Diyas made the semis of a WTA event.

Golovinjured.
Feb 12th, 2010, 10:14 PM
Great for Kazakhstani tennis, hopefully it makes some impact back home.

burn
Feb 12th, 2010, 10:24 PM
Shvedova is Russian...
AND...
Karatantcheva is Bulgarian...
:lol: at two Kazakhs in a WTA semi..!
I absolutely agree with iPatty... but I guess it won't take long until Diyas reaches a semi!!! GL to both "Kazakhs" tho... I like both of them!!!

V.Melb
Feb 12th, 2010, 11:00 PM
A Russian and a Bulgarian purchased by Kazakhstan in the semifinals of a WTA event.

Привет
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:01 AM
Shvedova is Russian...
AND...
Karatantcheva is Bulgarian...
:lol: at two Kazakhs in a WTA semi..!
I absolutely agree with iPatty... but I guess it won't take long until Diyas reaches a semi!!! GL to both "Kazakhs" tho... I like both of them!!!
What's your definition of 'long'? :confused:
A Russian and a Bulgarian purchased by Kazakhstan in the semifinals of a WTA event.
Wow. Didn't you just blow everyone's mind with this incredible revelation.

They're Kazakhstani representatives. The reasons why they're Kazakhstani representatives don't change the fact that 2 players representing Kazakhstan are in the semis of the same tournament for the first time.

Golovinjured.
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:21 AM
You probably shouldn't have bothered with this thread. :awww:

Cookie Power
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:28 AM
They are not Kazakhs.

kikiriki
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:34 AM
Shvedova's mum Nurzia is actually born in Alma Aty, Yaroslava said it herself in an interview :wavey:.

Привет
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:36 AM
:worship: It comes to use every now and then, huh?:lol:
Hey, at least you're honest with yourself.
Shvedova's mum Nurzia is actually born in Alma Aty, Yaroslava said it herself in an interview :wavey:.

What?! Yaroslava knowing more about herself than TennisForum posters??? :eek: This just cannot be possible.

kikiriki
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:42 AM
Hey, at least you're honest with yourself.


What?! Yaroslava knowing more about herself than TennisForum posters??? :eek: This just cannot be possible.

:confused:

Привет
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:44 AM
:confused:

:lol: Check your reps. ;)

wateva
Feb 13th, 2010, 09:23 AM
oh pls. why is there a big hooha over this small issue?
just look at singapore's table tennis team.
NONE of them are born and raised in singapore! :o

andrewC
Feb 13th, 2010, 05:38 PM
kazakhs my arse, just about as much as borat is from kazakhstan. they bothlost today, no?

tennisbum79
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:01 PM
This is the difference between countries with tradition of immigration and those without.
Had this been in USA, Canada, Britain, France, this would not be issue.

Federer was born in South Africa, no one questions his Swiss nationality.
Hingis was not born in a Swiss citizen, no one quations the Swiss Miss.

Boreas
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:04 PM
Karatantcheva and Shvedova were not born Kazakhs they're playing under Kazakh flag solely because of money! They bought them a year ago!

tennisbum79
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:12 PM
Karatantcheva and Shvedova were not born Kazakhs they're playing under Kazakh flag solely because of money! They bought them!
Who cares how they became citizens?

It is up to the women, it was their individual choices.

When the USA let execptional talents from eastern block countries emigrate to America, is that buying them or giving them opportunities to develop their career to the fullest by providing them opportunities.

It sounds to issue here is one of a public relation problem given their past.

KournikovaFan91
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:17 PM
If they have Kazakh passports they are Kazakh, I don't see people questioning Seles or Navratilova.

Although Martina's reasons were political Monica's must not have been.

This is the typical bashing of the ex-USSR that goes :rolleyes:

tennisbum79
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:18 PM
If they have Kazakh passports they are Kazakh, I don't see people questioning Seles or Navratilova.

Although Martina's reasons were political Monica's must not have been.

This is the typical bashing of the ex-USSR that goes :rolleyes:
Exactly!

And Federer, Marina Hingis and Liezel Huber

Boreas
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Exactly!

And Federer, Marina Hingis and Liezel Huber

Fed lived/s in SUI, Martina still does, Huber lives in Texas.

Shvedova lives in Moscow, never been to her adopted country, Karatantcheva has never heard of Kazakhstan before and lives in Sofia, part time in Florida.:kiss: Nothin but money connects these 2 players with KAZ

tennisbum79
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Fed lived/s in SUI, Martina still does, Huber lives in Texas.

Shvedova lives in Moscow, never been to her adopted country, Karatantcheva has never heard of Kazakhstan before and lives in Sofia, part time in Florida.:kiss: Nothin but money connects these 2 players to KAZ
It is the palyers choice.

BTW, how do know Karatantcheva has never heard of Kazakhstan before.

A number if tenis players live in Monaco (for tax purposes), and Florida (for facilities)
These players are not from France or USA respectively.

My point is, do not blame the country of Kazakhstan. It is the players choice.

Boreas
Feb 13th, 2010, 06:53 PM
It is the palyers choice.

BTW, how do know Karatantcheva has never heard of Kazakhstan before.

A number if tenis players live in Monaco (for tax purposes), and Florida (for facilities)
These players are not from France or USA respectively.

My point is, do not blame the country of Kazakhstan. It is the players choice.

I don't blame the country! In a metaphotical manner I already expressed my feelings towards these 2 players who're the only ones to blame:o

tennisbum79
Feb 13th, 2010, 07:01 PM
I don't blame the country! In a metaphotical manner I already expressed my feelings towards these 2 players who're the only ones to blame:o
Ok.
The tone led me to believe you were blaming the country.

For the players, there must be personal reasons.
I know you are skeptical, but there could be something to it.

Cosmologist
Feb 13th, 2010, 07:02 PM
:haha: at Kazaks!

munaz
Feb 13th, 2010, 07:39 PM
This is the difference between countries with tradition of immigration and those without.
Had this been in USA, Canada, Britain, France, this would not be issue.

Federer was born in South Africa, no one questions his Swiss nationality.
Hingis was not born in a Swiss citizen, no one quations the Swiss Miss.

Weak comparisions.

I think one of Federer's parents are from South Africa, but he was born in Switzerland and has lived there all of his life. Hingis has lived in Switzerland since she was a toddler.

The biggest connection these two "Kazaks" have to their country is $$. Not that I think that's necessarily a bad thing, their own countries wouldn't support them so they went elsewhere.

tennisbum79
Feb 13th, 2010, 08:23 PM
The biggest connection these two "Kazaks" have to their country is $$. Not that I think that's necessarily a bad thing, their own countries wouldn't support them so they went elsewhere.

People around the world make that decision all the time.
I am sure you know about the USA, Israel, Australia.
Ordinary people go to these countries for better opportunities.
It just happen these 2 are tennis palyer

I guess the difference here is that these 2 indivuals' profession does not compel them to relocate; nor does the country of Kazakstan as a condition to get citizenship.

mboyle
Feb 14th, 2010, 12:35 AM
Borat would be so pleased.

thegreendestiny
Feb 14th, 2010, 04:35 AM
Why is it that the useless Russian players get purchased by Kazakhstan (Shvedova, Voskoboeva, Golubev, Korolev) while very good non-Russians play under the Russian flag (Davydenko, Sharapova)? :confused: