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muusa
Jul 11th, 2012, 05:45 AM
It's kind of ridiculous that Astana 100k is weaker than most (all?) of the 25k-s she played in spring. But yeah, she's in the qualies and that is great of course.

Tennisfan06
Jul 17th, 2012, 07:16 PM
Here is so quiet without chingching :lol:

Anyway, checked Beijing quali list and Anett is safely IN :yeah:

muusa
Jul 18th, 2012, 06:09 AM
Some pics from Wimbledon semi:

http://www.wta96.com/wiki/images/b/bd/Anett_KONTAVEIT_4400.jpg

http://www.wta96.com/wiki/images/1/12/Anett_KONTAVEIT_4355.jpg

chingching
Jul 18th, 2012, 09:15 AM
Some pics from Wimbledon semi:

http://www.wta96.com/wiki/images/b/bd/Anett_KONTAVEIT_4400.jpg

http://www.wta96.com/wiki/images/1/12/Anett_KONTAVEIT_4355.jpg

Nice pics :)
There are a few things that I have to say:
First, I got banned because I created a second account which I didn't know was illegal :)
Secondly, it is good that Anett is playing these higher level challengers, and from the lists, I don't think there is anyone in either qualifying draw who can beat her, and QFs in both are now possible IMO :cheer:
Finally, it is hilarious how inactive this thread is without me :haha: I knew I posted a lot but I didn't realise it affected so much on the thread. All of you posted less when I was away. I went to play a tennis tournament from last Thursday to this Monday and no one had posted :lol: I mus simply spark conversation :lol:

Anyway, I like the video of Anett as she seems to have a clear plan set out :)

WhoAmI?
Jul 18th, 2012, 12:41 PM
I wondered during Wimbledon already.. Does Nike provide the juniors with outfits? Because the top girls all had similar outfits that Anett also wore^^? (Except for Indy as she's under Sharapova's wing). Or it's just a coincidence?

Meelis
Jul 18th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Nike designed a special dress for the juniors Wimbledon, so Nike girls were mostly wearing it.

There´s still plenty non Nike girls, like Kiick, Siniakova, Bencic, Sharipova etc.

chingching
Jul 19th, 2012, 10:35 AM
Anett has had a Nike and Prince sponsorship for a long time :eek:
They must have seen the potential :lol:
Anyway, there will definately be livescores for Astana and maybe even a livestream as it is the same week as a 125K mens event, although if there is a stream it may be like Bath where it is just for the men :(
Such sexism in tennis :sad:

Meelis
Jul 19th, 2012, 11:53 AM
Anyway, there will definately be livescores for Astana and maybe even a livestream as it is the same week as a 125K mens event, although if there is a stream it may be like Bath where it is just for the men :(

That was the case last year. Only ATP matches had scores/streams. Except for the doubles final, where they did forget to turn cameras off :lol: And women´s final was on proper TV.

chingching
Jul 19th, 2012, 12:09 PM
That was the case last year. Only ATP matches had scores/streams. Except for the doubles final, where they did forget to turn cameras off :lol: And women´s final was on proper TV.

Well wouldn't it be amazing if Anett made it that far :lol:
I think that individually Anett could beat all the players but I am not sure if she has the energy to beat them all in a tournament format :(
We have to remember she is only 16 :lol:
Anyway, I hope they changed the livescoring issue at least, as it would be pretty disappointing for a 100K not to have livescoring and for a 10K Tallinn Qualifying to have point by point :lol:

chingching
Jul 21st, 2012, 09:25 AM
Anett would be seeded for Baku qualies :haha:
IMO, if she had any of the qualifier places except Hlavackova, she could make the 2jnd round and probably the QF :lol:

muusa
Jul 21st, 2012, 09:50 AM
IMO, if she had any of the qualifier places except Hlavackova, she could make the 2jnd round and probably the QF :lol:

You seriously see her beating Minella or Panova? She just lost to Bouchard who wasn't even top 300..

chingching
Jul 21st, 2012, 10:12 AM
You seriously see her beating Minella or Panova? She just lost to Bouchard who wasn't even top 300..

And Minella lost to Yakimova and I didn't really consider Panova, but clay is her better surface. I think Schoofs is better than both, and Schoofs wasn't in bad form when Anett beat her. Just cause Anett lost to Eugenie doesn't mean she will lose to others. She obviously hit too many unforced errors against Eugenie and Eugenie has a better serve than both Minella and Panova. And Eugenie is doing well anyway :shrug: Also Eugenie's match of the year was against Anett IMO :shrug: And Anett has beaten Putintseva who has beaten many good players, and Ash Barty so I don't think it would be the worlds biggest upset if Anett beat them :shrug: Both are way overranked. The qualifiers got unlucky draws here :)

chingching
Jul 21st, 2012, 01:16 PM
Anett's draw :sobbing:
(1)Sheng-Nan Sun (CHN) v Anett Kontaveit (EST)
Olga Ianchuk (UKR) v Ekaterina Yashina (RUS)
Sviatlana Pirazhenka (BLR) v Ksenia Milevskaya (BLR)
(8)Ksenia Kirillova (RUS) v Lidziya Marozava (BLR)

(2)Luksika Kumkhum (THA) v Anne Kremer (LUX)
Risa Ozaki (JPN) v Sabina Sharipova (UZB)
Eugeniya Pashkova (RUS) v Daria Mironova (RUS)
(5)Alexandra Artamonova (RUS) v (wc)Yekaterina Sagitova (KAZ)

(3)Nadiya Kichenok (UKR) v (wc)Yelena Nemchen (KAZ)
Nigina Abduraimova (UZB) v Angelina Gabueva (RUS)
Makoto Ninomiya (JPN) v (wc)Alexandra Grinchishina (KAZ)
(6)Sofia Shapatava (GEO) v Sabina Kurbanova (RUS)

(4)Paula Kania (POL) v (wc)Yevgeniya Rezepkina (KAZ)
Bermet Duvanaeva (KGZ) v (wc)Anna Kechko (RUS)
Vlada Ekshibarova (UZB) v Polina Monova (RUS)
(7)Ksenia Lykina (RUS) v (wc)Dariya Berezhnaya (KAZ)

She just had to get the top seed and the hardest section :sad:
Even if she gets past Sheng-Nan, which I think she can do, she still has to get past Yashina which I expect her to but then either Kirillova or Milevskaya (Milevskaya beat Nara, Shapatava and importantly Kirillova on her way to Astana 25K SF :()

Anett can get through, but I would have liked an easier draw. It's never a good thing to play the top seed in the first round in your first ITF Event above 25K. Although in her first 25K Qualifying she beat the top seed in the second round :)

I hope they have livescores :)

muusa
Jul 21st, 2012, 01:40 PM
According to the OOP she has to play 2 matches tomorrow (given she wins the first of course) - first match on center court at 9:30 and then fifth match on the same court.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3618/op.pdf

chingching
Jul 21st, 2012, 01:57 PM
According to the OOP she has to play 2 matches tomorrow (given she wins the first of course) - first match on center court at 9:30 and then fifth match on the same court.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3618/op.pdf

That is so stupid :mad:
They decided to do it over 2 days instead of 3 which is so unfair in this heat :(
If she wins the first, I expect her to win the second :)
I hope they have livescores although given the way the schedule is constructed, I doubt it :sad:
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!

BTW, Anett has 4 points to defend from next week and 12 from the week after so from these 2 tournaments in order for her to break the top 400 she will need to gain around 25 points. That means that if she qualifies for Astana and wins 1 round, then even if she loses First round qualies in Beijing she will still gain 25 points :yeah:

I also did some background checks on Anett's potential opponents and except for Sheng-Nan being left handed, I don't think Anett will have too many problems. Except for 2 50K QFs this year, she has lost mainly in First and Second Rounds of 25Ks and her main focus is doubles. I think Anett should qualify and the only really opposition besides Sheng-Nan is Ksenia Milevskaya who made a 25K QF last week, beating a top 150 player in Kurumi Nara.

As of next week in Beijing, the field is actually stronger in the main draw :lol:
Except for Xinyun Han and Yi-Miao Zhou who I think will both get MDWCs, Anett should get through Qualies easily :cheer:
The MD features some tough Asians but hopefully she can make some good inroads :yeah:

Qualies starts in 20 minutes :cheer:
Hopefully livescores :)

EDIT: THERE ARE LIVESCORES :cheer:
I will be doing my usuual point by point livescoring with emoticons in the Livescore Thread :)

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 04:10 AM
Anett loses the first set 6-0 :spit:
Hopefully better in the second
It was closer than the scoreline suggests which gives me hope as she had a few GPs and 2 BPs
Let's hope she can get back on top :)

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 04:50 AM
Anett loses 6-0 6-3 :sad:
She served 9 Double Faults (4 on BPs and lost on a DF), didn't hold serve once letting many 30-30 and GPs slip by and didn't break as many times as she should have. The match was closer than it seemed and she really did look like she was going to come back at various stages but it was not to be. I am very disappointed :(

She choked all over the place though: BPs, GPs, 30-30 points, 30-0 Points

I hope she does better in Beijing as this was such a waste of a tournament. She could have gone deep into the MD IMO but she just couldn't win today :sad:

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 05:49 AM
No offence but you really need to stop overhyping her. :o Really, really bad scoreline today. :(

Sightly hypocritical from you implying that Donna Vekic is as good as she is and saying her rank is justified and also following Bojana and your comments on her. You obviously haven't seen Anett play live or watced her carefully enough on the sections of her online, or you would have realised that she is deserving of the hype I give her. She is just very inconsistent and can't play against lefties. She has these scorelines every now and then and she bounces back well. If you think this is how she normally plays, then you are :weirdo: Everything I said about Anett was true. She could make the QFs here. The thing in Baku was a "possible to happen" thing. Have you not seen her wins???

I do not overhype her. Today's result was unexpected to everyone, even Sheng-Nan's fans. So unless you can come up with a legitimate example where I have overhyped her and it has been ridiculous, be quiet please :)

And even if I do, why do you care??? It doesn't affect you!

muusa
Jul 22nd, 2012, 05:55 AM
And yet another bagel this year? Very disappointing scoreline indeed. Yeah the draw could have been a bit better, but if you enter a 100k tournament then you should expect to beat opponents like that. Still think she should have played Astana 25k instead. Anyway, the 16 points from Finland will drop off soon enough and then she probably has no other chance than to search for weaker 25s or play some 10s again to gather more ranking points.

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 06:01 AM
And yet another bagel this year? Very disappointing scoreline indeed. Yeah the draw could have been a bit better, but if you enter a 100k tournament then you should expect to beat opponents like that. Still think she should have played Astana 25k instead. Anyway, the 16 points from Finland will drop off soon enough and then she probably has no other chance than to search for weaker 25s or play some 10s again to gather more ranking points.

I agree about the 25K. I don't think she needs to play weaker tournaments necessarily, I just think she needs to work on her consistency. This was obviously not the normal Anett so I hope she can improve for Beijing. She needs to play some 25Ks at the end of the year to get some confidence. In 100Ks, she can't afford to work her way into the tournament. What I don't understand is why she didn't have problems in Copenhagen getting into her matches but she does here. I think maybe her expectations were too high going in and she started playing well too late. Anyway, she got an unlucky draw, so hopefully she can get a better one in Beijing. If she can win a couple of qualifying matches and get herself some rhythym, then I am sure she can do well :) Remember she only needs to make R2 in Beijing to defend her points. it is amazing how far she has come :)

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:31 AM
Just wondering chingching, what is the potential you see in Anett? Because you hype her all the time, but you don't actually say any of her strengths. Be specific for example do you love her style of play, some particular shots, etc.

You comment on other players weaknesses, but not say anything on Anett's strengths. So it becomes really hard to take you seriously.

Yes it's hard to comment on players that barely get any TV courage (like Vekic, Bencic, Abanda), but like you said you seen Anett more than anyone here, so why don't you comment on her game?

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:39 AM
Just wondering chingching, what is the potential you see in Anett? Because you hype her all the time, but you don't actually say any of her strengths. Be specific for example do you love her style of play, some particular shots, etc.

You comment on other players weaknesses, but not say anything on Anett's strengths. So it becomes really hard to take you seriously.

Yes it's hard to comment on players that barely get any TV courage (like Vekic, Bencic, Abanda), but like you said you seen Anett more than anyone here, so why don't you comment on her game?

What do you mean? You want me to say why i think what I say about Anett is justified???
Basically, there are 3 reasons I like Anett. First, she is Estonian. I have Estonian relatives and love the country, so the fact that I get to hear more interviews with her and just have relatives from the same country, I like her more. Secondly, she seems like a really nice person. When I saw her play Traralgon and the Australian open, she always carried herself nicely and was always smiling. When she was in Traralgon she was always nice to the children who would wait around the practice courts and would always say hello to other players and fans. Finally, I really like her style of game and attitude. Her strokes are clean and well struck, giving her a very clean game. Her strokes are not jagged and rough but her racket is like an extension of her arm if you know what I mean. She never gives up and doesn't behave like a brat. She is also not a little American Princess. She has shown that she can beat top players and except for in more recent times, she doesn't really get overtaken by nerves. She is calm and never screams and except for her slightly annoying grunt, she is the perfect image of a tennis player IMO :shrug: The reason why inhype her, which I only do in places relevant (I don't litter GM with posts about her anymore) is because she has shown that she can beat top players so my expectations for her are very high. Also, I saw her practice at the Aussie Open with a few of the boys players and she was killing them. I think she underperforms in matches, and after seeing her play when it doesn't matter or when there is no pressure, i am determined she is underranked in Juniors and Seniors, so that's why I think she lost because she played badly. It will be interesting to see what the Estonian newspapers say about it as they will get a statement from her for sure. So to answer your main question, the reason why I "hype" her is because IMO she is deserving of it :shrug: Well at least she should be deserving of it, but these results don't help my cause. But just so you know, todays match was actually closer than most people think :)

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:44 AM
What do you mean? You want me to say why i think what I say about Anett is justified???

I mean is you say stuff like "Anett can beat player X" or "Anett can win this tournament". That's ok.

But I just want to know what you think about Anett's game and why she has so much potential.

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:54 AM
I mean is you say stuff like "Anett can beat player X" or "Anett can win this tournament". That's ok.

But I just want to know what you think about Anett's game and why she has so much potential.

I am confused by your question. I have answered part of it in the post above but in terms of me thinking she can beat various players, I have nearly always been right. I got this one, Mrdeza (because of lack of knowledge of her [I though she was just a 25K qualifier but she was actually top 240 :lol:]), Marcinkevica, Hogenkamp and Bouchard wrong all year. they are my only mistakes :shrug: And they have all achieved significant things since beating her. I don't think my predictions have been ridiculous or biased :shrug:

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:58 AM
That's not what I meant. I agree with most of your predictions due to past performances and the like.

What I was asking is, what do you like about Anett's game?

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 08:03 AM
That's not what I meant. I agree with most of your predictions due to past performances and the like.

What I was asking is, what do you like about Anett's game?

I answered that in my first post ;)
Her technique, attitude, power, placement and her willingness to move foreward. I hope she adds more of an element of intelligence into her game as sometimes I get the impression she is just trying to hit winners. Although, I do believe she plays to her opponents weaknesses very well :)

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 08:06 AM
I answered that in my first post ;)
Her technique, attitude, power, placement and her willingness to move foreward. I hope she adds more of an element of intelligence into her game as sometimes I get the impression she is just trying to hit winners. Although, I do believe she plays to her opponents weaknesses very well :)

Thanks. I was hoping you'd be more specific :)

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 08:59 AM
Thanks. I was hoping you'd be more specific :)

What kind of answer do you want to hear, and I'll work from that :)

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 09:14 AM
What kind of answer do you want to hear, and I'll work from that :)

Ok.

On Anett's technique, I see nothing special. Do you believe that it looks beautiful or she gets easy power? I don't. Looks standard from what I have seen.

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 09:39 AM
Ok.

On Anett's technique, I see nothing special. Do you believe that it looks beautiful or she gets easy power? I don't. Looks standard from what I have seen.

She gets easy power and it's a smooth technique, meaning she won't get injuries :)
If you see it live you will realise it isn't standard, especially her backhand which has a lot of flair involved. Everything is smooth and she has been taught very well :)

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 10:17 AM
She gets easy power and it's a smooth technique, meaning she won't get injuries :)
If you see it live you will realise it isn't standard, especially her backhand which has a lot of flair involved. Everything is smooth and she has been taught very well :)

There is definitely nothing wrong with it, but many girls have that technique and it's nothing special. It is something I dislike about the WTA, most players have the same technique, while on the mens side almost everyone has a unique technique.. Most girls are better on the backhand side too, so that flair you talk about is again standard.

Also I don't think she gets easy power, because you can both see and hear the effort she puts when hitting balls.
I recently watched a short clip of Abanda hitting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Nnp7ZVdi0), and that is what I mean when someone gets easy power, it's gentle.
Anett has power no doubt about that, she has an Azarenka style of baseline grinding game in my opinion. But what influence comes from technique is if it looks like a gentle stroke, and I just don't see it in Anett.

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 10:34 AM
There is definitely nothing wrong with it, but many girls have that technique and it's nothing special. It is something I dislike about the WTA, most players have the same technique, while on the mens side almost everyone has a unique technique.. Most girls are better on the backhand side too, so that flair you talk about is again standard.

Also I don't think she gets easy power, because you can both see and hear the effort she puts when hitting balls.
I recently watched a short clip of Abanda hitting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Nnp7ZVdi0), and that is what I mean when someone gets easy power, it's gentle.
Anett has power no doubt about that, she has an Azarenka style of baseline grinding game in my opinion. But what influence comes from technique is if it looks like a gentle stroke, and I just don't see it in Anett.

When you see her live, you can see. She doesn't have flair in the way that Federer has flair, but her forehand is definately not machine made. Her backhand may be, but it has such beautiful timing and gets good spin and she always hits it in the middle of the racket. I know what you mean about her being the same as everyone else, but I think she is slightly different in that I think her shot selection is more thought out and she come to net. In terms of technique, I understand your point even more as she has the "ballbasher" footwork and follow throughs but I think despite her forehand looking bland, it has many intricacies to it that would surprise you. She is more than most think :)

Her technique is not what made me like her though. She reminds me a lot of my sister :oh:

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 10:40 AM
I admit after her great Australian summer in 2011 I thought Bojana could be a pretty good player. She finished 2010 as the youngest player in the Top 100. Now I'm realistic in that she's never going to be that great. :shrug:

And Donna Vekic is a lot better than Anett, whether or not you want to admit it, it's a fact. :wavey:

And thanks for your bad rep. :lol:

Donna is better. Making it a habit of beating nobodies. Like Errani. Donna will achieve a lot ;)
It's fine :) I realised it was unfair to just give them to Donna's dislikeable fans :D

Dan_Doe
Jul 22nd, 2012, 10:52 AM
Donna is better. Making it a habit of beating nobodies. Like Errani. Donna will achieve a lot ;)
It's fine :) I realised it was unfair to just give them to Donna's dislikeable fans :D

The f*** is wrong with you again? :facepalm:

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 10:55 AM
The f*** is wrong with you again? :facepalm:

Nothing ;)
Anyway, you should be happy I am not being mean to you :)
I like you now ;)
And due to this I will ignore the little addition of swearing and an emoticon you made :lol:

Dan_Doe
Jul 22nd, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nothing ;)
Anyway, you should be happy I am not being mean to you :)
I like you now ;)
And due to this I will ignore the little addition of swearing and an emoticon you made :lol:

I don't want you to like me, I want you to stop bashing players or users when someone disagree with you or when you don't have valid points left in your pocket.
I don't want to start another argue with you, so I won't post anything more on this matter ;)

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 11:16 AM
I don't want you to like me, I want you to stop bashing players or users when someone disagree with you or when you don't have valid points left in your pocket.
I don't want to start another argue with you, so I won't post anything more on this matter ;)

Good :)
I never start arguments, I react to posts THAT DON'T INVOLVE OTHER PEOPLE!!!!!
Anyway, if you don't want me to like you, I guess I could harass you if you wanted :shrug:
Do you have anything to say about Anett's loss. Everyone has been quite quiet about it :eek:

BTW, BlueTrees, who is your avatar of???

Dan_Doe
Jul 22nd, 2012, 11:19 AM
Anyway, if you don't want me to like you, I guess I could harass you if you wanted :shrug:

Harass me, whatever, why should I care?


Do you have anything to say about Anett's loss. Everyone has been quite quiet about it :eek:

Dissapointing result, that's all. She needs to get her shit together and play more consistently.



BTW, BlueTrees, who is your avatar of???

I guess it's Veronika Kudermetova :) Cool avatar with a cute girl :yeah:

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 12:02 PM
When you see her live, you can see. She doesn't have flair in the way that Federer has flair, but her forehand is definately not machine made. Her backhand may be, but it has such beautiful timing and gets good spin and she always hits it in the middle of the racket. I know what you mean about her being the same as everyone else, but I think she is slightly different in that I think her shot selection is more thought out and she come to net. In terms of technique, I understand your point even more as she has the "ballbasher" footwork and follow throughs but I think despite her forehand looking bland, it has many intricacies to it that would surprise you. She is more than most think :)

Her technique is not what made me like her though. She reminds me a lot of my sister :oh:

Well yeah every human being is unique in some way, even if a player tries to intentionally copy someone else, it never is the same.

I agree her technique is not what makes her stand out, she has other qualities.

Anyways these kind of discussions are much more enjoyable than those lame "my play is better than your player, because she beat this player while yours hasn't" arguments you guys have.

While on the Anett vs Donna argument, none of us has really seen Donna play so we can't compare. But on results, I don't agree with BlueTrees that seniors is the only way to judge.

For example I find Donna's poor performances in juniors quite worrying, because you can argue that the world's best juniors are more talented than journeywomen that are 200/300 in the rankings. And that she struggles with the unpredictable nature of her opponents in juniors.

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 12:37 PM
Well yeah every human being is unique in some way, even if a player tries to intentionally copy someone else, it never is the same.

I agree her technique is not what makes her stand out, she has other qualities.

Anyways these kind of discussions are much more enjoyable than those lame "my play is better than your player, because she beat this player while yours hasn't" arguments you guys have.

While on the Anett vs Donna argument, none of us has really seen Donna play so we can't compare. But on results, I don't agree with BlueTrees that seniors is the only way to judge.

For example I find Donna's poor performances in juniors quite worrying, because you can argue that the world's best juniors are more talented than journeywomen that are 200/300 in the rankings. And that she struggles with the unpredictable nature of her opponents in juniors.
My comment on Donna was partly true but slightly exaggerated. I believe that she is overranked by around 100 places and that Anett is underranked by about 150, but Anett's best and worst are about 150 places higher and lower then where she should be ranked :lol: Donna has the problem of mentality. She can't deal with the big scene, whereas Anett thrives on it. Donna can win challengers in the back of nowhere because there is no pressure and much less publicity whereas all of Anett's big wins have been in big events. Fed Cup, Copenhagen WTA, Tallinn 10Ks, which even though they are really small and quite weak had huge crowds for all of her matches, which I really liked as it is proof that tennis is growing in Estonia. And look at Anett having interviews all the time for ERR (like ABC) and the like. She really does thrive on popularity :) I completely agree with you on the fact that these discussions are more entertaining and validate eachothers points more. If only there was a thread where people could compare players :) Tennis Forum is too argumentative, no thanks to me :) Which players do you think are particularly unique and why do you like the Asadinator??? :)

Harass me, whatever, why should I care?




Dissapointing result, that's all. She needs to get her shit together and play more consistently.




I guess it's Veronika Kudermetova :) Cool avatar with a cute girl :yeah:

Anett's consistency is infuriating. Kudermetova has a legendary serve :yeah: She looks very pale there though :eek:
Dan_Doe, join the debate :)

Last time I checked beating nobodies is better than losing to nobodies :wavey:

And yes it's Veronika Kudermetova in my avatar :p

I am not so sure that Donna would beat Sun :shrug: For sure she would be the favourite but Sun is experienced, is lefty, hits the ball hard and has had a lot of success in doubles. And anyway, Donna has had some bad losses to like Mirozova, Lu and Peterson so it's not like Anett is the only ones. Anett for sure has more but that's just because she's inconsistent. She has also had many many more big wins :)

Finally some more good news in that Beijing 75K + H is also a mens challenger, so Anett will have livescores again :cheer:
Let's hope she can get an early flight there are and get used to the conditions :cheer:
Her goal here IMO should be to qualify, but I am not expecting that after this weeks performance :)

BTW, Sun is in the FQR with a 1 and 2 win over Yshina, so I don't feel as bad about Anett's loss now :)

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 01:14 PM
I think that this would be a good schedule for Anett:
30 July-5 August: 75K + H Beijing
26 August-1 September: Canadian Open Junior Championships
2 September-9 September: US Open Junior Tennis Championships
10 September-16 September: 25K Redding
(US Open Result that will not put Anett as Year End Top 5 without Orange Bowl:
15 October-21 October: 25K Makinohara
22 October-28 October: Osaka Mayor's Cup)
(US Open Result that will put Anett in Year End Top 5 without Orange Bowl:
22 October-28 October: 25K Netanya
29 October-4 November: 25K Istanbul)

I think that that is pretty good for points :) The reason why i put Osaka only if Anett wouldn't be Top 5 without Orange Bowl is because there is no point in Anett trying to be Top 10 Year End for Junior Exempts unless she is at least Top5 because she doesn't need the 3 25K Junior Exempts any more as her ranking is high enough to not need them. I would expect her to do well in Osaka and if she didn't then I guess she could play Orange Bowl and then she would squeeze her way in IMO if she could get SFs from all of US Open, Osaka and Orange Bowl :) I thought Netanya would be better than Glasgow as last year Glasgow was very strong and Anett has already shown her prowess in Israel :yeah:

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 01:35 PM
Which players do you think are particularly unique and why do you like the Asadinator??? :)

Obviously Ash :) reason why I joined this place. There is too much to like about her, so I won't waste everybody's time, unless you're interested ;) In short words, she defies everything I hate about the WTA: technique wise (ugly, boring), mentally weak (crybabies) and the general bitchiness (as if you need a special bark or scream to make you play better) whereas Ash is calm, arrogant and beautiful to watch.

Another player which I think is very unique (and flying under the radar recently, CH ranking of 165) is Khromacheva. She plays like Kerber, but more aggressive mindset because she looks to attack. Both have heavy spinning forehands, but Irina is more flexible with it (love how she can dig out balls on the baseline but still produce an aggressive top-spin shot from it, like Nadal does). Obviously consistency and mindset wise they are worlds apart, but she can improve. Like Barty, I feel Khromacheva has a great game to watch.

Townsend another lefty, don't rate her as much as Khromacheva, she doesn't have the same flair. But her volleying skills are very good especially for a girl, which makes her unique. Just have to worry about her fitness though, because no point being a volleyer if you can't get to the net fast enough.

I loved the energy of Putintseva when I saw her against JJ. What impresses me about her is her movement, her feet move really fast, so she doesn't struggle when chasing balls like most girls do. Very good balance when she changes direction too, none of this silly WTA cow stance crap. She can turn out to be a fun counter-puncher to watch.

Haven't seen much of Vekic, Abanda and Bencic. Hopefully see Vekic tonight.

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 02:15 PM
Obviously Ash :) reason why I joined this place. There is too much to like about her, so I won't waste everybody's time, unless you're interested ;) In short words, she defies everything I hate about the WTA: technique wise (ugly, boring), mentally weak (crybabies) and the general bitchiness (as if you need a special bark or scream to make you play better) whereas Ash is calm, arrogant and beautiful to watch.

Another player which I think is very unique (and flying under the radar recently, CH ranking of 165) is Khromacheva. She plays like Kerber, but more aggressive mindset because she looks to attack. Both have heavy spinning forehands, but Irina is more flexible with it (love how she can dig out balls on the baseline but still produce an aggressive top-spin shot from it, like Nadal does). Obviously consistency and mindset wise they are worlds apart, but she can improve. Like Barty, I feel Khromacheva has a great game to watch.

Townsend another lefty, don't rate her as much as Khromacheva, she doesn't have the same flair. But her volleying skills are very good especially for a girl, which makes her unique. Just have to worry about her fitness though, because no point being a volleyer if you can't get to the net fast enough.

I loved the energy of Putintseva when I saw her against JJ. What impresses me about her is her movement, her feet move really fast, so she doesn't struggle when chasing balls like most girls do. Very good balance when she changes direction too, none of this silly WTA cow stance crap. She can turn out to be a fun counter-puncher to watch.

Haven't seen much of Vekic, Abanda and Bencic. Hopefully see Vekic tonight.

Interesting :)
The thing I find funny is that IMO Khromacheva and Barty are Polar Opposites, yet you like them both :)
I like the players you like :) I only recently liked Putintseva as one of my friends has met her and said she was very nice :) I love Townsend's personality :) She's so sweet :D I also like Bouchard, Svitolina and Abanda but don't really like Bencic. IDK why, but she just seems to be overranked :shrug: And I hate all whorers. But I like Siniakova and Lottner :) Lottner and Anett I draw many similarities between. I like Ash but I am not sure whether she will transition well as right now she doesn't hit the ball hard enough to be an agressor but she isn't fast enough to be a counter-puncher. Her variety will surely come in handy during the grass season though :) It will be interesting to see who do well in seniors. BTW, if you want to see Khromacheva and Putintseva as a child, go to Irina Khromacheva's Facebook profile (not page, but actual account) and look though her photos (they are all public) and you will see a Eurosport Video of the Les Petits As Final vs Putintseva MP and Ceremony and a video of her as a 12 year old which is genuinely HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

No offence but you really need to stop overhyping her. :o Really, really bad scoreline today. :(

Well if Anett had not been in her bad form and she had drawn Lina Stanciute or Marta Sirotkina in MD, she could have made the QFs as if she beat one, then she would play the other. So I am obviously not :overhyping" her :lol:

binky-GOAT
Jul 22nd, 2012, 02:58 PM
Interesting :)
The thing I find funny is that IMO Khromacheva and Barty are Polar Opposites, yet you like them both :)
I like the players you like :) I only recently liked Putintseva as one of my friends has met her and said she was very nice :) I love Townsend's personality :) She's so sweet :D I also like Bouchard, Svitolina and Abanda but don't really like Bencic. IDK why, but she just seems to be overranked :shrug: And I hate all whorers. But I like Siniakova and Lottner :) Lottner and Anett I draw many similarities between. I like Ash but I am not sure whether she will transition well as right now she doesn't hit the ball hard enough to be an agressor but she isn't fast enough to be a counter-puncher. Her variety will surely come in handy during the grass season though :) It will be interesting to see who do well in seniors. BTW, if you want to see Khromacheva and Putintseva as a child, go to Irina Khromacheva's Facebook profile (not page, but actual account) and look though her photos (they are all public) and you will see a Eurosport Video of the Les Petits As Final vs Putintseva MP and Ceremony and a video of her as a 12 year old which is genuinely HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

It depends the way you look at it when comparing Barty and Khromacheva. Obviously they have opposite styles, but overall they are quite similar.

Just think about Federer and Nadal. Completely different games yes. But they both have many similarities, like they hit with lots of spin. Their matches are always about angles they can generate, movement and their skill.

I don't know those other players you mentioned.

About Ash not having enough power, yes she doesn't hit hard. But her technique is perfect and she generates lots of topspin on her shots, so when the ball bounces it gains pace, so her angles can be devastating. Also if she lands the ball deep on the baseline, the awkward bounce she is able to get prevents her opponents from attacking her. Ash is not a counter-puncher, she doesn't like endless rallies or running around, like you said her movement is not good enough for that game-style. If a rally is going too long, she tries to finish off the point.

Also you just leading me on to what I hate about WTA, by aggressor I guess you mean ball-bashing. You don't need to hit hard every shot to be aggressive. Something as simple as creating angles and moving up to the net is also aggressive play. In the WTA players don't have a happy medium, you are either a ballbasher or a pusher. Barty has this style which allows her to get safe margins over the net and use little energy, while also being aggressive.

Thanks, can you provide a direct link to the video? :)


Edit: I like Bouchard too, like Anett they both seem really friendly.

Tennisfan06
Jul 22nd, 2012, 04:38 PM
Disgusting loss :o , I expected her to win TBH, as Sun's results in past weeks weren't good. But again Anett got an opponent who decided to start playing good again, Sun beat Yashina 0 and 2 in R2 :silly:

Too bad, I waited this tournament since I read she plays here and now such a fail result. :sad:

muusa
Jul 22nd, 2012, 07:36 PM
Last time I checked beating nobodies is better than losing to nobodies :wavey:


That is true :sobbing:

But even Vekic got bagelled today, so everybody has bad days once in a while. Only.. Anett seems to have them too often. Anyway, if she continues the recent pattern, the next tournament should be better for her.

Also, interesting to read these longer discussions about junior players here. :)

chingching
Jul 22nd, 2012, 09:12 PM
It depends the way you look at it when comparing Barty and Khromacheva. Obviously they have opposite styles, but overall they are quite similar.

Just think about Federer and Nadal. Completely different games yes. But they both have many similarities, like they hit with lots of spin. Their matches are always about angles they can generate, movement and their skill.

I don't know those other players you mentioned.

About Ash not having enough power, yes she doesn't hit hard. But her technique is perfect and she generates lots of topspin on her shots, so when the ball bounces it gains pace, so her angles can be devastating. Also if she lands the ball deep on the baseline, the awkward bounce she is able to get prevents her opponents from attacking her. Ash is not a counter-puncher, she doesn't like endless rallies or running around, like you said her movement is not good enough for that game-style. If a rally is going too long, she tries to finish off the point.

Also you just leading me on to what I hate about WTA, by aggressor I guess you mean ball-bashing. You don't need to hit hard every shot to be aggressive. Something as simple as creating angles and moving up to the net is also aggressive play. In the WTA players don't have a happy medium, you are either a ballbasher or a pusher. Barty has this style which allows her to get safe margins over the net and use little energy, while also being aggressive.

Thanks, can you provide a direct link to the video? :)


Edit: I like Bouchard too, like Anett they both seem really friendly.

Sure :)
I get your point on Ash :) I hope she becomes a professional because she is extremely different and I just adore the fact that when she won Wimbledon she barely fist pumped :lol: Of course she will make Top 50 and probably Top 20 but I fear that even though it is sad, that sometime she will get out hit. I don't like ballbashers, but I do like players like Anett and Irina who hit the ball hard and move their opponents around (I love how early Anett hits the ball, even if it's a moonball :inlove:). I don't know, but that is my fear :) I was going to say about Vekic :lol: I think BlueTrees. may have jinxed himself :lol: But as you said, everyone has bad days :shrug: It's part of being a teenage tennis player :lol:

Here is the link :)
Tarbes: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=49350394268&set=t.1293194783&type=3&theater
Irina + Daria: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=6905234268&set=t.1293194783&type=3&theater

The second one is so funny. She is so annoying :lol:



Also, interesting to read these longer discussions about junior players here. :)

IKR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

binky-GOAT
Jul 23rd, 2012, 01:44 AM
Sure :)
I get your point on Ash :) I hope she becomes a professional because she is extremely different and I just adore the fact that when she won Wimbledon she barely fist pumped :lol: Of course she will make Top 50 and probably Top 20 but I fear that even though it is sad, that sometime she will get out hit. I don't like ballbashers, but I do like players like Anett and Irina who hit the ball hard and move their opponents around (I love how early Anett hits the ball, even if it's a moonball :inlove:). I don't know, but that is my fear :) I was going to say about Vekic :lol: I think BlueTrees. may have jinxed himself :lol: But as you said, everyone has bad days :shrug: It's part of being a teenage tennis player :lol:

Here is the link :)
Tarbes: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=49350394268&set=t.1293194783&type=3&theater
Irina + Daria: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=6905234268&set=t.1293194783&type=3&theater

The second one is so funny. She is so annoying :lol:



IKR!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is inevitable that she will get out hit on occasions, but it's quite common in WTA even the best get outhit, unless you are Williams or Sharapova who attack from the first ball and don't give their opponents a chance. But Ash can minimize damage if she improves her defensive skills and consistency.

Yes Anett is always on the baseline, which is quite a common and successful tactic on the WTA these days, if you want to rebound the ball quickly giving your opponent little time. But it has 2 negatives: Shot selection becomes limited and if your opponent changes the pace you can make errors because you have less time to adjust. It suits her game though, because it revolves more around power than technical.

That video is great. Even at a young age you can see Khromacheva is quite talented, also vocal :lol:

After watching Vekic, It is difficult to say who has more potential. But I think Vekic is just a bit stronger than Anett, physically.

Ksenia.
Jul 23rd, 2012, 05:35 AM
Last time I checked beating nobodies is better than losing to nobodies :wavey:

Amen to that :lol:

binky-GOAT
Jul 23rd, 2012, 07:57 AM
All these junior girls (Anett, Donna, Bencic, Abanda, Barty, Townsend, Khromacheva, etc) are far better than the boys. In fact the best boys are Liam Broady and Luke Saville, who are both 18 and have not made any impression in seniors (not even futures level). While all the girls have started winning senior matches (at challengers) at 14/15.

There might not be any teenage prodigies, but all these girls are making steady progress towards the WTA tour. While on the ATP, Tomic will be the youngest in the Top 100 for a few more years :lol:

Dan_Doe
Jul 23rd, 2012, 09:55 AM
All these junior girls (Anett, Donna, Bencic, Abanda, Barty, Townsend, Khromacheva, etc) are far better than the boys. In fact the best boys are Liam Broady and Luke Saville, who are both 18 and have not made any impression in seniors (not even futures level). While all the girls have started winning senior matches (at challengers) at 14/15.

There might not be any teenage prodigies, but all these girls are making steady progress towards the WTA tour. While on the ATP, Tomic will be the youngest in the Top 100 for a few more years :lol:

Yeah, men's tennis' future doesn't look very bright with these juniors. The Dimitrov, Raonic, Goffin, Janowicz & then Tomic, Harrison generations are looking good, but if you take the last 4 years GS winners, such as Bhambri, Berta, Fernandes or Fucsovics.. :help: I hope for late bloomers or guys who didn't play juniors to take over, otherwise the future doesn't look great.
Saville and Peliwo are rolling in juniors, but they barely hit the top 600 ATP as 18 yo. Tomic and Harrison were close to top 100 at their age.

Girls are developing much earlier, physically speaking, and it's a pretty normal thing for them to make an impact in pros at 16/17, but still women tennis seems to have a much brighter future.

Chris 84
Jul 23rd, 2012, 10:26 AM
The Dimitrov, Raonic, Goffin, Janowicz & then Tomic, Harrison generations are looking good

not if you compare it to any other generation....like ever. not saying those guys aren't talented, they are, and i particularly like what i've seen from goffin, even if he is a bit lightweight. however, these guys are pretty much in the 20, 21 age range and have barely had a sniff of a chance of winning a slam, reaching the top-ranked places in the game, etc. they are already waaay behind most of the top players throughout history in the open era, and certainly by 23, the vast majority of first time slam winners are one (or two) hit wonders, with the exception being lendl. but like murray if he were to win a slam soon, lendl had proved that he belonged in the upper echelons of the game already.

what i mean is that in any other generation within the open era, the players who go on to have very good slam-winning careers have been at the very top in general between 17-21. there is no indication that the generation to which you refer will be in that bracket. they may surprise me, but i can't really see any of the players that you mentioned (or the likes of berankis, etc) becoming multi-time slam champions unless the generations that follow them are even worse. tomic perhaps has shown the most to me, and is still only 19, so i guess i'd go with him if i had to guess at one of these guys to become a huge success. but i can't really see it atm. by the time fed, djoke, rafa and murray are away, these guys will be in their mid-late 20s and it might be too late by then.

chingching
Jul 23rd, 2012, 11:03 AM
It is inevitable that she will get out hit on occasions, but it's quite common in WTA even the best get outhit, unless you are Williams or Sharapova who attack from the first ball and don't give their opponents a chance. But Ash can minimize damage if she improves her defensive skills and consistency.

Yes Anett is always on the baseline, which is quite a common and successful tactic on the WTA these days, if you want to rebound the ball quickly giving your opponent little time. But it has 2 negatives: Shot selection becomes limited and if your opponent changes the pace you can make errors because you have less time to adjust. It suits her game though, because it revolves more around power than technical.

That video is great. Even at a young age you can see Khromacheva is quite talented, also vocal :lol:

After watching Vekic, It is difficult to say who has more potential. But I think Vekic is just a bit stronger than Anett, physically.

Well DOnna is about 5 CM taller (I think :lol:)
Anett does come to net more than most Juniors (there are videos of her on sport.err.ee in Tallinn 10K where she comes to net often :)) but from what I've seen her volleys must be improved, except for her beautiful Drive Volley and Smash :inlove:

On the topic of Girls developing faster, it is just as it has always been. Girls enter puberty younger then boys and coupled with their ability to keep up from a young age (and the fact that by the time Girls are 16 they are unlucky to grow much more, especially Anett and Donna who were both tall very young), it makes sense that they do better :shrug: Also the womens relies more on timing and flexibility, rather than strength and stamina meaning it is easier for them to keep up. The good young mens player have often before come out of nowhere, and I expect that to happen in the 1993/92 Generation :)

binky-GOAT
Jul 23rd, 2012, 12:03 PM
@Chris, I totally agree with you. But 19-21yo generation will have plenty of chances for many years to come, because there are literally no promising young players. It is all getting worse and worse for ATP.

@chingching, good points. However I must remind you Tomic/Harrison/Raonic did not rise suddenly, they had a few years of good senior performances. Tomic won 1st round of AO at 16, Harrison played well at an ATP, etc. They were all ranked in the 200s at 16/17 years of age.

chingching
Jul 23rd, 2012, 12:45 PM
@Chris, I totally agree with you. But 19-21yo generation will have plenty of chances for many years to come, because there are literally no promising young players. It is all getting worse and worse for ATP.

@chingching, good points. However I must remind you Tomic/Harrison/Raonic did not rise suddenly, they had a few years of good senior performances. Tomic won 1st round of AO at 16, Harrison played well at an ATP, etc. They were all ranked in the 200s at 16/17 years of age.

That is true but they all had advantages. Tomic had a really weird game and is a 1 in 10,000 player, while Raonic/Harrison had the weaponry. I just think they were extraordinarily good at their age :shrug: I think that there will be some again, but as technology advances and it becomes harder and harder to have tennis as a part time career if you know what I mean, the Boys rankings will soon have so little effect on who breaks through and you won't really get any young guns any more :( That's one thing I like about the womens :)

Dan_Doe
Jul 23rd, 2012, 01:22 PM
not if you compare it to any other generation....like ever. not saying those guys aren't talented, they are, and i particularly like what i've seen from goffin, even if he is a bit lightweight. however, these guys are pretty much in the 20, 21 age range and have barely had a sniff of a chance of winning a slam, reaching the top-ranked places in the game, etc. they are already waaay behind most of the top players throughout history in the open era, and certainly by 23, the vast majority of first time slam winners are one (or two) hit wonders, with the exception being lendl. but like murray if he were to win a slam soon, lendl had proved that he belonged in the upper echelons of the game already.

what i mean is that in any other generation within the open era, the players who go on to have very good slam-winning careers have been at the very top in general between 17-21. there is no indication that the generation to which you refer will be in that bracket. they may surprise me, but i can't really see any of the players that you mentioned (or the likes of berankis, etc) becoming multi-time slam champions unless the generations that follow them are even worse. tomic perhaps has shown the most to me, and is still only 19, so i guess i'd go with him if i had to guess at one of these guys to become a huge success. but i can't really see it atm. by the time fed, djoke, rafa and murray are away, these guys will be in their mid-late 20s and it might be too late by then.


That 'good' was supposed to mean 'decent' :lol:
If we stopped seeing teenage girl sensations anymore, since 2007 (Nicole :sobbing:), I guess we won't see boys cracking the top at young ages either, so I think Dimitrov, Tomic, Harrison & co are doing just fine.
Considering Roger, Rafa, Nole and Andy won't be there forever, I expect these guys to dominate grand slams for a few years, especially given' the quality of younger up and comers.

chingching
Jul 24th, 2012, 11:38 AM
BTW, Sun is now through to RD 2 with a 4 and 3 win over Woerle, so maybe Anett's loss wasn't completely because of her. Although, I would expect her to beat Woerle TBH :shrug:

muusa
Jul 25th, 2012, 07:16 PM
The quali list for Beijing keeps getting weaker every day, Anett is even not that far from being seeded. Anyway, I really hope she can at least pull herself through to the main draw this time :unsure:

chingching
Jul 25th, 2012, 09:14 PM
The quali list for Beijing keeps getting weaker every day, Anett is even not that far from being seeded. Anyway, I really hope she can at least pull herself through to the main draw this time :unsure:

She is probably already there and adjusting to the courts :)
I hope she can too and I think she will this time, but we will have to see her draw :)
BTW, Sun lost in the 2nd Round 6-4 in the 3rd after saving 11 MPs :eek:
Let's just hope Anett doesn't waste another tournament, but I sense that if she can make the MD that she will get some confidence, which might give her an opportunity fir a MD in :cheer:

muusa
Jul 27th, 2012, 12:50 PM
The quali draw is out and this is Anett's section. Looks better than last week.

(2)Xinyun Han (CHN) v (wc)Ai Wen Zhu (CHN)
Ran Tian (CHN) v Fangzhou Liu (CHN)
Yuxuan Zhang (CHN) v Anett Kontaveit (EST)
(7)Nungnadda Wannasuk (THA) v Xin Wen (CHN)

First up against Yuxuan Zhang who is ranked 731. If Anett doesn't win this then :help:

chingching
Jul 27th, 2012, 01:12 PM
The quali draw is out and this is Anett's section. Looks better than last week.

(2)Xinyun Han (CHN) v (wc)Ai Wen Zhu (CHN)
Ran Tian (CHN) v Fangzhou Liu (CHN)
Yuxuan Zhang (CHN) v Anett Kontaveit (EST)
(7)Nungnadda Wannasuk (THA) v Xin Wen (CHN)

First up against Yuxuan Zhang who is ranked 731. If Anett doesn't win this then :help:

Quite a nice draw until Han :)
I am going to say that Anett will win this, but I feel I may regret it :lol:

I expect her to beat Wannasuk if she wins her first match as it will be good to get a win under your belt, but Han will be hard simply because she is lefty again and she took a set off Stosur at AO 2010 :scared:

Anyway, GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

Tennisfan06
Jul 27th, 2012, 02:46 PM
If she loses R1 again :o

Wannasuk is not an easy opponent, she can play some good tennis and she has recently done quite well at 10Ks.

Tennisfan06
Jul 28th, 2012, 08:18 AM
Lost 57 64 26 :o :help:

Girl...

muusa
Jul 28th, 2012, 09:02 AM
That's really bad. Two tournaments wasted, zero points gained. Back to 10k-s now?

chingching
Jul 28th, 2012, 09:41 AM
That's really bad. Two tournaments wasted, zero points gained. Back to 10k-s now?

25s I think :)
I have no idea how she lost two matches, but maybe she doesn't play well against Asians :shrug:
Still, a very despicable loss. A waste of a few thousand dollars and more importantly, 2 points and no points :sobbing: I still don't know how she lost this :facepalm: She could have won R2 if she won :facepalm: I hope her Juniors will be less catastrophic :)

chingching
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:05 AM
$75,000+H Beijing

Q1: Yuxuan Zhang (CHN) df. Anett Kontaveit (EST) 7-5 4-6 6-2

Zhang is only a year younger than Anett and is ranked #728. :help:

Yesterday's news :lol:
Anett obviously doesn't like Asian players or the conditions, but after she won the second, I thought she'd take out the third :(
Anyway, I really hope she plays 25K Netanya in Israel as she has good memories from Israel, and I think she can win it :)

The really sad thing is that if she played a 10K, then she still could have lost First Round given Zhang's ranking :facepalm:

muusa
Jul 29th, 2012, 09:23 AM
$75,000+H Beijing
Zhang is only a year younger than Anett and is ranked #728. :help:

According to itftennis.com Zhang will be 18 in August. So it is more like 1.5 yrs older.
But anyway, the outcome is still very very disappointing. If Anett cannot beat 700+ ranked players, then she has nothing to do in 25k-s.

Let's hope it is a temporary slump. Too bad we don't get any feedback from her team.

chingching
Jul 29th, 2012, 10:07 AM
According to itftennis.com Zhang will be 18 in August. So it is more like 1.5 yrs older.
But anyway, the outcome is still very very disappointing. If Anett cannot beat 700+ ranked players, then she has nothing to do in 25k-s.

Let's hope it is a temporary slump. Too bad we don't get any feedback from her team.

Maybe the conditions do not suit her :shrug:
Although she won some G1s in Malaysia :(
I think it is just a temporary slump and that she will be back soon :)
The 2 25Ks in England would have been a much better choice IMO :)
She could have won 1 of them :lol:
That's if she wasn't playing like this :)

chingching
Aug 1st, 2012, 10:48 AM
Anett is not playing G1 Canadian open :eek:
She is still on entry list for US Open, but there are no challengers anywhere near North America the same week as the Canadian Open :(
Maybe she is just going to practice, which is probably quite necessary after her disastrous run in Asia :sad:
Luckily, all the new Top 10 Players except for Townsend and Bouchard are out of her league on a good day, so another SF isn't out of the question, despite her shit form :bounce:

muusa
Aug 2nd, 2012, 04:49 AM
I'm surprised that she's not playing that G1 warmup for USO. So she travels to the States for only one tournament. :confused:

chingching
Aug 2nd, 2012, 08:52 AM
I'm surprised that she's not playing that G1 warmup for USO. So she travels to the States for only one tournament. :confused:

there's a 25K the week after she might play
BTW, I have found Anett's doppelganger :lol:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406260_365138736891092_155329095_n.jpg

Her and Carina look quite similar :eek:
They could almost be sisters :lol:

muusa
Aug 2nd, 2012, 09:14 AM
^I was actually thinking the same when I saw the pic, I even googled her to see more pics. However, it seems to be only that one pic, Witthöft looks different on other photos.

Dan_Doe
Aug 2nd, 2012, 09:14 AM
Haha, I've always thought Anett and Carina look a bit similar :lol:

Tennisfan06
Aug 6th, 2012, 05:30 PM
Randomly checked entry lists of the next events and found that Anett plays in $10,000 San Luis Potosi, Mexico, 20 August - 26 August 2012 :eek: Currently 2nd on EL.

chingching
Aug 6th, 2012, 08:30 PM
Randomly checked entry lists of the next events and found that Anett plays in $10,000 San Luis Potosi, Mexico, 20 August - 26 August 2012 :eek: Currently 2nd on EL.

Thanks for finding out :D
It's such a shame that she has had to drop down to this level, but I am happy she did :)
Let's hope she can win here as the field is not particularly strong :)
She basically needs to win if she wants to be DA into 25s :)
Anyway, a title would be nice :)
I hope that she can finally make a 25K Semis :lol:

binky-GOAT
Aug 8th, 2012, 07:17 AM
Hi :)

:lol:

chingching
Aug 8th, 2012, 11:51 AM
Hi :)

:lol:

Hi :lol:
Any interesting discussions????I have missed them :sad:
We need to start another one as it is the only time I have been genuinely interested and emotionless about everyone elses opinions :)
It seems that Anett's defeator Genie is doing well :eek:

The Withdraw Deadline has been reached in Anett's 10K in Mexico and it has to be the weakest 10K I have ever seen that has not been in Africa :lol:
There are now unranked players in the MD and even though before there were some dangerous juniors like Vickery, now there is only Zacarias who is 4th seeded and Fanning. She is top seeded and I have heard of nobody else :haha:

I hope she plays doubles as I am quite sure she would get in, but more importantly, if she doesn't win, shit will go down :D

Here is the list :)
http://beta.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/women's-tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100027431

muusa
Aug 10th, 2012, 02:17 PM
Surprising decision to play that 10k instead of G1 in Canada. Or actually not, as she really needs to get some more points to be able to play stronger tournaments. She is now the first seed in Mexico with a big pressure to win this event.

I wonder what she will decide about the next year - does she continue playing junior slams or leave the junior tour behind. I guess she could still benefit of playing at least the ones in Europe, although possible losses to younger players might do some damage on the mental side.

chingching
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:42 AM
Surprising decision to play that 10k instead of G1 in Canada. Or actually not, as she really needs to get some more points to be able to play stronger tournaments. She is now the first seed in Mexico with a big pressure to win this event.

I wonder what she will decide about the next year - does she continue playing junior slams or leave the junior tour behind. I guess she could still benefit of playing at least the ones in Europe, although possible losses to younger players might do some damage on the mental side.

True but she has been improving drastically on the Junior Tour :)
Except for her unfortunate loss to Bouchard, she hasn't lost early in any important tournaments IMO :shrug:
She doesn't seem to care about G1s and lower GA's :lol:

chingching
Aug 15th, 2012, 01:35 PM
If Anett wins, which I am going to go out on a limb and say she will, she will move up to around 435. Anett will be 3rd seeded.
My reasoning for Anett winning is that she has played well in America before (I know it was end of year, but I am hoping she will still cope :)) and she will be able to work her way into the tournament (no top 1000 player before QF, no Zacarias until final due to her ranking drop :yeah:, meaning Ferris or Kukharchuk, who have achieved nothing except the Russian who lives in America who beat nobodies to make the QFs of an easy 50K and the American winning an easy 10K in July :))

BTW, is Anett smart?? She has come across as articulate in her interviews but does she do well at school???

She may be able to play doubles with friend and former partner Ayaka Okuno :)

EDIT: Turns out Kukharchuk is lefty and bith girls play at college level :) Neither seem to be amazing or particularly intimidating :)

chingching
Aug 18th, 2012, 12:44 PM
Anett will be 2nd seed for this tournament after Kukharchuk pulled out, which IMO is a bad thing as she could now draw zacarias in the semis :( It could be a good thing though as she may not have to face a Top 1000 player until the final, as the 4th seed is ranked 1008 :haha: If Anett doesn't win this or at least make the final and lose to Zacarias :lol:

There is a facebook page for the tournament:
http://www.facebook.com/torneointernacionaldetenisfemenil
Next year it will be promoted to 15K but lets hope Anett won't have to play that again :D

Even more importantly, because Anett is a top 2 seed, unless 2 random WCs are given, she will receive a BYE first round as only 30 players have entered :haha:

chingching
Aug 20th, 2012, 12:32 PM
Anett's draw has been released, at is the hardest it could have been, but still so easy :)

(1)Elizabeth Ferris (USA) v BYE
Julie Tringa (FRA) v Sofia Macias Mendoza (MEX)
Danielle Mills (USA) v (wc)Priscilla Medlich Leal (MEX)
(5)Rosalia Alda (USA) v Ashley Murdock (USA)

(4)Erin Clark (USA) v BYE
(wc)Victoria Rodriguez (MEX) v Esthefhanie-Darehly Juarez-Rojo (MEX)
Emily Fanning (NZL) v Daniella Daniel (GEO)
(8)Sarahi Garcia Carrera (MEX) v Tanya Samodelok (RUS)

(7)Jessica Lawrence (USA) v Denise Muresan (USA)
Zorayma Arreola (MEX) v (wc)Alejandra Cisneros (MEX)
Nour Azzouz (EGY) v Julia Browne (USA)
(3)Marcela Zacarias (MEX) v BYE

(6)Robyn Beddow (GBR) v Casey Robinson (USA)
Vivian Mayumi Toma (BRA) v Angelina Zhuravleva (RUS)
Ryann Foster (USA) v (wc)Antonella Bramato (MEX)
(2)Anett Kontaveit (EST) v BYE

She plays the winner of 16 Year Old Ryann Foster, who has a ranking :eek: and some rando Mexican WC :)
She then could face 6th seed Robyn Beddow of GBR but she hasn't really achieved anything :shrug:
The biggest worry is Zacarias who has beaten Rezai and Hogenkamp but I think Anett can win :D
If she beats Zacarias, there will be no question of who wins the final :dance:

Also, Anett is playing doubles :eek: :lol: It is with Emily Fannng of New Zealand and they have some random Mexicans first round. If they manage to win, in the second round they have the second seeds, although neither of them are in the Top 1000 :lol:
No one of note to stop them until the finals IMO :shrug: :lol:

It is genuinely embarrassing how weak this draw is :haha: I think the worst I have ever seen, or if not very close :D

BTW BlueTrees, here is the source for Anett's picture :)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OrlYMD2kJdk/TDDVJUR8UXI/AAAAAAAAByA/YGEj9UAmodk/s1600/3JM04JUL10V061.jpg
And here is another :D
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OrlYMD2kJdk/TDDVIvfZHFI/AAAAAAAABx4/Kq2uHM9ctNE/s1600/3JM04JUL10V057.jpg

chingching
Aug 21st, 2012, 06:47 AM
Anett won doubles 6-2 6-0 :dance:
There are only 2 doubles teams with a ranking :)
If Anett can win her next match then I expect her to make the final in doubles :D
Now she has Ryann Foster in Singles who just got past 200 and something ranked Mexican Junior 7-6(4) 3-6 6-4 :)
A QF in singles and doubles is almost guarenteed :D

chingching
Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:17 AM
Anett got through 6-2 6-2 :scared:
I hope she gets better because IMO that is not one-sided enough :(
Anyway, next round she has either Zhuravleva or Robinson :)
Her doubles second round hasn't been played yet but I hope she can make the semis :D
The Facebook page has added some pictures but none of her yet :)

muusa
Aug 23rd, 2012, 02:16 PM
It is a bit frustrating to see that her junior companions Vekic, Khromacheva and Putintseva are playing USO qualies when Anett is playing some über-weak 10k in Mexico :spit:

chingching
Aug 23rd, 2012, 09:38 PM
It is a bit frustrating to see that her junior companions Vekic, Khromacheva and Putintseva are playing USO qualies when Anett is playing some über-weak 10k in Mexico :spit:

True, but when you see Kghromacheva and Putintseva losing first round, maybe it is less saddening :)
She will put them back in their place next week :yeah:

What do you think her goals should be for next year :)

TimeyWimey
Aug 23rd, 2012, 09:41 PM
not a bad thing stay in the juniors for a while, but 13 will be the final year Anett could play juniors, not sure good for her or not, pro tour would be totally different, time flies

binky-GOAT
Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:22 PM
True, but when you see Kghromacheva and Putintseva losing first round, maybe it is less saddening :)
She will put them back in their place next week :yeah:

:spit: So bitter :lol:

Anyways why is she playing a 10k? :confused:

chingching
Aug 24th, 2012, 05:57 AM
:spit: So bitter :lol:

Anyways why is she playing a 10k? :confused:

I like these girls, but I would rather they lose convincingly than Anett does :)
I didn't mean that they are bad players, I just think that when Anett gets to play them that she will prove that she is much closer to them than GS Qualies to Weak 10K :lol:

Also, Anett and Emily won 6-0 6-2 over the second seeds :dance:
A wonderful scoreline for them :D

muusa
Aug 24th, 2012, 06:45 AM
Anyways why is she playing a 10k? :confused:

Her ranking is too low to get to the main draws of most 25k-s I suppose.. Also it is convenient for USO warmup.

What do you think her goals should be for next year :)

This year she expected to reach top 300. Well, she is far from that at the moment so it can be her next year's goal - top 250 maybe? I think she should still play some junior slams as well.

How many tournaments is she allowed next year? Was it 14 or sth..

Meelis
Aug 24th, 2012, 11:40 AM
How many tournaments is she allowed next year? Was it 14 or sth..

16 + 3 if she finishes the year inside ITF top 5 + 1 if she reaches USO final + up to 2 grand slams, if she qualifies directly.

Meelis
Aug 24th, 2012, 11:50 AM
12 pro tournaments this year. Six used and another six still free.

Tennisfan06
Aug 24th, 2012, 08:42 PM
Anett won 61 64 :yeah:

Next is Zacarias who beat her opponent 61 62. :armed:

chingching
Aug 24th, 2012, 10:57 PM
Anett won 61 64 :yeah:

Next is Zacarias who beat her opponent 61 62. :armed:

:D
I know that Zacarias will be hard, but I sense that Anett will step up :)

I am confused about one thing, why is Anett allowed to play 19 tournaments if she finishes in ITF Top 5, but only 16 if she doesn't????

Also, how did you find out that she won, because I can't find it anywhere???

EDIT: ANETT IS UPDATING HER FACEBOOK AGAIN!!!!!!!

chingching
Aug 25th, 2012, 06:31 AM
Anett's facebook has been updated with this:
Täna oli hea päev! Vôitsin üksikmängu, võitsime Emilyga paarismängu 61 62 ning lisaks võitsin veel ka kihlveo, peale mida Märten, Emily ja Emily treener pidid kätekôverdusi tegema. Lisaks on nad mulle veel ka õhtusöögi võlgu:))))

Had a good day today! Won my singles, doubles and also won a bet against Märten, Emily and Emilys coach. They had to do pushups and buy me a dinner :)))
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293402_350045558410917_1156137409_n.jpg

She is becoming like Donna with her Social Networking awareness :inlove:

binky-GOAT
Aug 25th, 2012, 06:55 AM
She is becoming like Donna with her Social Networking awareness :inlove:

:confused: Donna isn't the only one, infact most juniors do it.

Dan_Doe
Aug 25th, 2012, 06:56 AM
:haha::haha:
I've seen the post earlier today but I didn't pay attention to the photo :lol:


:confused: Donna isn't the only one, infact most juniors do it.

Who else? I only know about Anett, Donna, Indy de Vroome, Uberalova and Schmiedlova :spit:

chingching
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:40 AM
:confused: Donna isn't the only one, infact most juniors do it.

There are no Juniors who do it as much as Donna. She provides photos and comments (and quite a few videos) not only everyday at every tournament, but even when she is just training :) It is nice that Anett is doing this as well :)

Tennisfan06
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:35 AM
:D
I know that Zacarias will be hard, but I sense that Anett will step up :)

I am confused about one thing, why is Anett allowed to play 19 tournaments if she finishes in ITF Top 5, but only 16 if she doesn't????

Also, how did you find out that she won, because I can't find it anywhere???

EDIT: ANETT IS UPDATING HER FACEBOOK AGAIN!!!!!!!

There was a live score in flashscore.com. Livescore also in her next match against Zacarias.

chingching
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:22 PM
There was a live score in flashscore.com. Livescore also in her next match against Zacarias.

That's impressive :eek: I can't wait to follow :D Is there a schedule for tomorrow???

binky-GOAT
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:25 PM
There are no Juniors who do it as much as Donna. She provides photos and comments (and quite a few videos) not only everyday at every tournament, but even when she is just training :) It is nice that Anett is doing this as well :)

Yeah others do that aswell.

chingching
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:43 PM
Yeah others do that aswell.

No they actually don't. If they do, then show me :)
I know Khromacheva does on and off but no one with the consistency of Donna :)
For example, Ash Barty and Khromacheva comment occasionally, but won't post any photos or videos :)

binky-GOAT
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:54 PM
No they actually don't. If they do, then show me :)
I know Khromacheva does on and off but no one with the consistency of Donna :)
For example, Ash Barty and Khromacheva comment occasionally, but won't post any photos or videos :)

Depends where you look, they post their photos/videos either in their site or facebook.

http://www.khromacheva.com/
http://www.facebook.com/AshleighBarty

chingching
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:36 PM
Depends where you look, they post their photos/videos either in their site or facebook.

http://www.khromacheva.com/
http://www.facebook.com/AshleighBarty

Perhaps, but Donna is still the most active. Anyway, what tournaments do you think Anett will or should play next??? I am still hooked on 25K Netanya :)

muusa
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:03 PM
Anett def. Marcela Zacarias 63 64 :)
Now take both titles! :p The doubles final should follow soon I suppose..

Tennisfan06
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:07 PM
:yeah: Now the final against WC Rodriguez.

Hopefully she does what Vladimir Ivanov did this week in Finland - win both singles and doubles :cheer:

Dan_Doe
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Good. First relevant win in ages for Anett in the pro tour, as Zacarias is a good player. I hope for better in the next months, it's a shame she couldn't breakthrough yet on the tour.

chingching
Aug 25th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Yay :)
As I already said, I think she will now beat Ferris :)
It would be great if she could beat Ferris twice :D
I also hope her and Emily play at US Open, as they appear to partner well and it would give Emily the chance to move up the rankings :)

EDIT: Rodriguez made the final :eek: This makes me even happier :)

:yeah: Now the final against WC Rodriguez.

Hopefully she does what Vladimir Ivanov did this week in Finland - win both singles and doubles :cheer:

BTW, he is rising very quickly :) We could have 2 Estonians in the Top 400 by the end of the year in Mens and Womens :eek: :dance:

chingching
Aug 26th, 2012, 05:40 AM
Anett won the Doubles Final 6-0 6-3, claiming her first title :cheer:
I really hope they play together at the US Open :)
I am also happy for Emily :D
Take the sweep Anett :yeah:
Anett will be around 430 if she wins tonight and just inside the Top 450 if she doesn't :)
Even though by many accounts she has had quite a lackluster professional year, it is an amazing achievement to have won at least 5 titles by the time she's 17, and she could win at least 1 more after tomorrows Final IMO :)

Here is what she shared on Facebook :)
Võitsime paari finaali 60 63. Elu esimene profiturniiri paarismängu tiitel :))))
We won our doubles 60 63. My First pro title in doubles :))))
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578662_350344171714389_856841982_n.jpg

muusa
Aug 26th, 2012, 09:57 AM
Well done! Yeah, it is a weak tournament, but all their wins were very convincing, the girls handed out bagels in three matches out of four :lol:

Hopefully Anett can carry this good form to the USO as well. And she still has 6 pro tournaments left, I wonder which ones she will play. I assume Helsinki as it is nearby, though it'll probably be a tougher one. Then maybe she could also play 25k in Minsk the week before? It is also quite near and it would be weaker probably as there will be 25k-s in France, Spain and Slovakia in the same week.

Tennisfan06
Aug 26th, 2012, 10:44 AM
There was no question who was the best team, Anett and Emily gave no chance to other teams. Hopefully they play doubles together at USO, too. :yeah:

chingching
Aug 26th, 2012, 11:05 AM
I was surprised at how good Emily appeared to be as a doubles player, as Anett is not known as the doubles genius :lol:
Emily lost second round in Singles to an unranked player, yet she was obviously instrumental in their tournament win, as the team they beat in the final were quite highly ranked :)
I really think they have a shot at a quarters or a semi at the US Open because of Anett's higher ranking perhaps getting them a seed :D
I really hope she can beat Rodriguez, and I don't see how she won't :)
The bet365 odds for the final are 1.18-4.50, pretty good odds IMO :lol:

Anett actually has enough Doubles Points now to be Top 980 but because she has only played 2 tourneys she doesn't have a ranking. I hope that she can play a 3rd as if she could just get a ranking then she could start to play doubles at 25Ks :)

muusa
Aug 26th, 2012, 06:55 PM
Livescore is stuck at Anett leading the final 40 in the first set :silly:

Dan_Doe
Aug 26th, 2012, 07:12 PM
6-1 6-1 :D
I hope this trophy will give Anett some confidence for the next ITFs.

muusa
Aug 26th, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nice! Btw now her record in ITF finals is 5-0, 6-0 if we count doubles as well. Yes, they are all 10k-s, but still a very good achievement I think, it shows that she is mentally strong.

WhoAmI?
Aug 26th, 2012, 07:35 PM
A good week!:) We'll see how it compares to the juniors slam.

6-1 6-1 :D
I hope this trophy will give Anett some confidence for the next ITFs.

I hope she won't be stuck at 10ks, and the next ITFs will be something higher.

Tennisfan06
Aug 26th, 2012, 07:50 PM
Nicely done, hope this gives her confidence and she has a good USO.
Please start doing well in higher tournaments too.

chingching
Aug 26th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Anett :cheer:
It's good that she finished it off :)
Hopefully she can take this into the US Open :)
The Facebook page of the tournament said she recorded a bagel, 6-1 6-0 :oh:

Dan_Doe
Aug 26th, 2012, 09:52 PM
I won my final 61 61. I played really well today and was able to dictate points from the start of the match. This was a great warm-up tournament and gave me a lot of confidence to go to the US Open.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225007_350649011683905_965427075_n.jpg

TimeyWimey
Aug 26th, 2012, 10:55 PM
nicely done :) good luck in flushing meadows !

chingching
Aug 27th, 2012, 05:44 AM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225007_350649011683905_965427075_n.jpg

It's nice that they made a photo of her :)
She looks so cute :inlove:
I also like that dress that the Nike girls are wearing :)
I think that she can do very well at the US Open in Singles and Doubles and another SF is very much within her reach :)
I hope that the tournaments Facebook page will upload photos of her, rather than everybody else :)

Also, if you have an Instagram account, follow Anett as she uploads many pictures of herself and there are some of her with Rodriguez and the trophy :)

Nice! Btw now her record in ITF finals is 5-0, 6-0 if we count doubles as well. Yes, they are all 10k-s, but still a very good achievement I think, it shows that she is mentally strong.

If you include doubles she is actually 6-1 (Tallinn 10K last year she was runner up :))
I agree that she is mentally strong but she does seem to choke a lot within her matches :(
I am sure she has enough mental ability to be Top 10 :)

muusa
Aug 27th, 2012, 08:47 AM
If you include doubles she is actually 6-1 (Tallinn 10K last year she was runner up :))


Yes you are right of course, I did not remember that doubles final :)

I was thinking she could also try a 15k maybe? There is one in Georgia on the week of 17th of Sept. Anyway, on Thursday the lists should be out so we will see if she has entered any tournaments in that week.

chingching
Aug 27th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Yes you are right of course, I did not remember that doubles final :)

I was thinking she could also try a 15k maybe? There is one in Georgia on the week of 17th of Sept. Anyway, on Thursday the lists should be out so we will see if she has entered any tournaments in that week.

That would be a great idea in terms of gaining points. She would IMO get a cheap 20 there, as I think she would win, and then she could perhaps play the 50 the week after :)

I know that she did badly in Beijing but I think if she got a good warm-up at the 15K she could make inroads at the 50, as I think she would make MD :)

She could easily collect 30 points from those 2 tourneys which would put her in the Top 375 :)

It will be interesting to see :)

BTW, Anett's Facebook Likes have sky-rocketed in the last week, with over 100 people "Liking" her :D
I wonder what will happen if she wins US :bounce:

On the tournament Facebook page there are now quite a few photos and a video of the presentation :)
Here's the video :)
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And here are 2 videos of highlights from her matches, the 1st vs Ryann Foster and the 2nd vs Rodriguez :D
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Here is the match report with scores :)
http://planoinformativo.com/planodeportivo/nota_dep.php?id=45537

She seems to be hitting the ball well :D

EDIT: It turns out Batumi to Telavi is Hard to Clay, and given that Anett would be expected to make at least Semis, then she will have little or no time to adapt :scared:
Maybe she could do 50K Montenegro + 50K Telavi double as they are same surface. Or even 25K Dobrich with Telavi or with a 10K in Varna :shrug: All I know is that she really should play a tournament in the 17th to 23 week as there are 14 tournaments, 2 75Ks, a 50K, 5 25Ks, a 15K and 5 10Ks :) I find ITF scheduling really weird where some weeks you only get 10Ks except for 1 25K and then some you get 2 100Ks in a row :lol: I just sense that if she plays that week she could get a lot of points :)

Also, unless someone below Anett gets points from above 25K level, she will be ranked 432 next week. I find it hard to believe that she won't break the Top 400 (she needs 30 points) and Top 350 is only 63 Points away, which in 4 tournaments is doable (an average of 15.75 points per tournament is above Anett's current average of 7.09, but Anett's average for this year is 8 per tournament). If she wanted to be Top 300 this year which is I guess possible but IMO highly unlikely, she will need to gain 102 points, which would be impossible without a 25K title. Although, I think Anett could win a weaker 25K this year. I really hope she goes to Nigeria and steals Donna's points :p

chingching
Aug 28th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Decided to skip training in IMG because of Storm Isaac and arrived in New York late last night. I love the Big Apple!
I didn't know she trained at IMG :lol:
Anyway, I hope that she gets a good few days of practice in New York. She is only one of a few who will actually get a lot of time in NYC before the Open :D Let's hope she doesn't do what happened last year :oh:

Also, here is an article about the 7 players who won Singles + Doubles last week on the Pro Circuit (2 Estonains :D)
Anett has the cover picture :dance:
Sorribes Tormo also win both in Italian 10K, so she is one for the future :)
Here is the link :)
http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/news/articles/double-title-winners.aspx

muusa
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:41 PM
Anett is listed for Yoshkar-Ola (1st priority), Saint Malo and Shymkent (gosh, these names :lol:) for the week of 17th. I think it's a great first choice as she might even get to the MD - there are so few first preferences on the list at the moment. Btw, Yoshkar-Ola is the capital of Mari El Republic and their original language is Mari - also a Finno-Ugric language.

I saw Anett's photo on the main page of the ITF website, the featured article is here: http://itftennis.com/procircuit/news/articles/double-title-winners.aspx
Oh, chingching was already faster and mentioned this :oh:

chingching
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:40 PM
Anett is listed for Yoshkar-Ola (1st priority), Saint Malo and Shymkent (gosh, these names :lol:) for the week of 17th. I think it's a great first choice as she might even get to the MD - there are so few first preferences on the list at the moment. Btw, Yoshkar-Ola is the capital of Mari El Republic and their original language is Mari - also a Finno-Ugric language.

I saw Anett's photo on the main page of the ITF website, the featured article is here: http://itftennis.com/procircuit/news/articles/double-title-winners.aspx
Oh, chingching was already faster and mentioned this :oh:

:D
I am happy she is trying weaker 25Ks (one this year in Moscow had Kudermetova make the final :lol:)
I hope she can do well :D

muusa
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:46 AM
When will the USO draw be out? Aren't they already playing some of the first round matches tomorrow?
I don't want Anett to lose to the eventual slam winner 4th time in a row this year :sobbing:

Meelis
Sep 1st, 2012, 08:41 AM
When will the USO draw be out?

tonight after 5pm (local time)

chingching
Sep 1st, 2012, 11:09 AM
When will the USO draw be out? Aren't they already playing some of the first round matches tomorrow?
I don't want Anett to lose to the eventual slam winner 4th time in a row this year :sobbing:

IK :lol:
I thought the draws will be released on the 3rd :confused:
Anywya, I hope Anett plays with Fanning, because Indy is in such a slump that I think it would be a worse choice :(

Some updates on Anett's September 17th Tournaments:
Yoshkar-Ola 25K:
25th Qualifier (7th Seed MD on P1s only :lol:)

Saint Malo 25K:
67th Alternate (1st Seed Q on P1s only)

Shymkent 25K:
17th Alternate (23rd MD on P1s only)

Julia Cohen has entered in a 15K in Batumi :spit: :help:
When was the last time a WTA Finalist (I know it was in Baku :lol:) went and played a 15K :haha:

Anyway, some reasons for Anett's Russian 25K being really weak IMO are it is ages away from everywhere (the airport only has dodgy Russian flights to Moscow :scared:) and because in general the Russian ones are weaker :)
I hope she can win it, or if not make at least Semis :)

muusa
Sep 1st, 2012, 09:55 PM
(12)Anett Kontaveit (EST) v (Q)Madrie Le Roux (RSA)
Alexandra Kiick (USA) v Veronika Kudermetova (RUS)
Francoise Abanda (CAN) v (wc)Brooke Austin (USA)
(6)Katerina Siniakova (CZE) v Barbara Haas (AUT)

Also Townsend and Bouchard in her half again :facepalm:

chingching
Sep 2nd, 2012, 12:18 AM
That's a difficult one :sad:
She'll easily make 2nd round and I would be surprised if she didn't make 3rd round, but Abanda/Siniakova could be tough. I still think Anett would make the QFs :) Townsend will be very tough but her last matches were a 3 and 1 loss to Duval and a 4 and 3 loss to Abanda, so I think that if Anett will ever beat her, it will be now :) Anett against Eugenie pits Anett as the obvious underdog and I expect her to lose. Although, it is sometimes hard to transition from Pros back to Juniors so an upset is not off the cards. Also 3 SFs in a row would kill her IMO :lol: If she got to the Final, I think she would beat Putintseva due to her confidence levels being up :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 2nd, 2012, 02:05 AM
chingching, where does your avatar come from, that's exactly the kind of shot i would love to take if i get the chance to see Anett ;)

chingching
Sep 2nd, 2012, 03:34 AM
chingching, where does your avatar come from, that's exactly the kind of shot i would love to take if i get the chance to see Anett ;)

From WTA 96 :)
It is actually a really big photo :)
It is in the Requests thread but here's the full size :)
http://www.wta96.com/wiki/images/1/16/Anett_KONTAVEIT_4595.jpg
Here is the website where there are other pictures :)
http://www.wta96.com/wiki/lvisfoto.php?foto=Anett_KONTAVEIT_4595.jpg&nnr=28
She has such a cute smile :hug:

TimeyWimey
Sep 2nd, 2012, 12:30 PM
^ thank you! :)

chingching
Sep 2nd, 2012, 12:58 PM
^ thank you! :)

Will you be able to see any of Anett's matches??? If so can you film short videos of her playing :) Thanks :)
If Anett decides to play the Australian Open, I think I will go :) I went this year and got to see her play in Traralgon so it will be interesting to see how she has improved :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:13 PM
Will you be able to see any of Anett's matches??? If so can you film short videos of her playing :) Thanks :)
If Anett decides to play the Australian Open, I think I will go :) I went this year and got to see her play in Traralgon so it will be interesting to see how she has improved :)

i wish i could make to the orange bowl, but very likely it will clash with my final exam :( really don't know the exam schedule yet

TimeyWimey
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:15 PM
but if, by any chance, she could make the q in any wta tour next year (i think she should at least try, cuz it will be her final year in juniors), still plenty of opportunities for me ;)

chingching
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:28 PM
i wish i could make to the orange bowl, but very likely it will clash with my final exam :( really don't know the exam schedule yet

Ok :)
Anyway, I hope you get to see her :D
She's really nice :)

chingching
Sep 2nd, 2012, 08:50 PM
Anett/Emily have a goof first round in Akkerman/Rodriguez but then they have Andrews/Townsend :sobbing:
Anyway, I hope they can at least push these two :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 3rd, 2012, 05:29 PM
4-1 up now 4 all :(

TimeyWimey
Sep 3rd, 2012, 05:35 PM
6-2

TimeyWimey
Sep 3rd, 2012, 05:52 PM
break down 1-2 :(

TimeyWimey
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:00 PM
breaks right back :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:07 PM
5-3 Sfm

TimeyWimey
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:13 PM
6-3

muusa
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:50 PM
Anett def. Madrie Le Roux 64 63
Was up 40 in the first set. Hard to see her beating Abanda, Townsend or even Kiick/Kudermetova :unsure:

Tennisfan06
Sep 3rd, 2012, 08:22 PM
Win is a win :shrug:
Lets hope it is just another slow start from her and she improves by every match. Next is Kiick, who beat her opponent 75 61.

chingching
Sep 3rd, 2012, 08:43 PM
Kiick should be beatable as she struggled past Kudermetova in the first :shrug:
I think that by the time Anett makes the 3rd Round she will simply be in better form :)

Tennisfan06
Sep 4th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Also won in doubles, 62 62 :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 4th, 2012, 05:14 PM
so all the juniors matches cancelled for today

chingching
Sep 4th, 2012, 08:37 PM
Annet's Facebook Update :)
Võitsin eile oma esimese ringi 64 63 ja paarismängus koos Emilyga jõudsime mängu lõpetada täpselt ennem vihma. Paari võitsime 62 62

I won my first round 64 63 and in doubles with Emily we were lucky to finish of our match with a 62 62 win just before the rain.

Here is another update :)
Täna lubab New Yorgis terve päev vihma ja kõik noorte üksikmängud on lükatud homsele.

It promises to rain the whole day in New York today so all the junior singles matches are cancelled for today.

chingching
Sep 5th, 2012, 08:13 AM
Anett is 2nd on Court 13 for Singles tomorrow and Last on Court 4 for Doubles :)
I hope she won't go 0-2 :scared:
I think that her and Em may be able to fluke a set off Team USA, but anything they get is really a bonus :)
Here is the first picture of Anett in play at the US Open :)
http://www.tennis.ee/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Anett-Kontaveit-US_Open-12-660x1024.jpg

On a different note, Anett is now 15th in MD for Yoshkar-Ola 25K, her choice for the week of the 17th :)
It could have been weaker but it is still very week :)
Anett has only lost to good players at 25K level, and as this is on Indoor Hard, I think she wcould go far, maybe even win the tournament :)
I expect her to break the Top 400 after this tournament (she needs 18 Points, a SF gives her 24 :D)

If she won the tournament, she would go up to Top 350 :D

Anyway, this is all foresight :)
Let's just focus on her match tomorrow :D
I think she will win...
Doubles could be fun :D

Here is Anett's Zimbio Photostream, with pictures from Day 8 at the US Open :) :D
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/cGdLfsmfjki/2012+US+Open+Day+8/AS5gbViQlg3/Anett+Kontaveit
She looks intense :haha:

Tennisfan06
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:06 PM
Anett already in Yoshkar-Ola MD :eek: Last time I checked (like 2 days ago) she was 15th or sth in the Q draw :lol: Maybe she can even be seeded :D

muusa
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Yeah, Yoshkar-Ola seems to be pretty weak :lol: Good for Anett of course, hopefully she can snatch some more wins at the 25k level. I actually even thought she'd be higher in the MD (she's 6th among the 1st priorities), but some might still pull out.

Btw, are all the junior matches cancelled again for today? :confused:

Meelis
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Btw, are all the junior matches cancelled again for today? :confused:

Only singles.

Lost 64 76(4) in doubles.

chingching
Sep 5th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Only singles.

Lost 64 76(4) in doubles.

That is a very acceptable performance :)
I hope her and Emily play some more :D
Who would have thought these 2 would have been such a good pair :lol:

Here is Anett's Facebook update :)
Number 1:
Paarismängus tuli kahjuks vastu võtta kaotus täna 46 67. Meil oli Emilyga lõbus ja proovime kindlasti veel koos mängida, kui selleks võimalus kuskil tekib.

Unfortunately lost our doubles match today 46 67. Despite the loss we had a lot of fun with Emily and we will try to play together again when we have a chance.

Number 2:
Lisasin siia pildi minu esimese ringi mängust, sest täna on kõik juunioride üksikmängud jälle tühistatud. Here is a pic of my first round match since all te junior singles matches have been cancelled for today.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/c0.0.383.383/p403x403/199214_354186834663456_277373766_n.jpg

Meelis
Sep 6th, 2012, 04:16 AM
They had a setpoint in the second set, but Anett missed a return and was then broken serving for the set.

chingching
Sep 6th, 2012, 07:05 AM
They had a setpoint in the second set, but Anett missed a return and was then broken serving for the set.

:sad:
How do you know???

WhoAmI?
Sep 6th, 2012, 05:46 PM
Anett def. Alexandra Kiick 60 67(4) 76(4) :)

She really needs to convert more BPs.

Next against 6th seed Katerina Siniakova who defeated Abanda 06 64 61.

TimeyWimey
Sep 6th, 2012, 06:42 PM
what a close match!

Tennisfan06
Sep 6th, 2012, 07:52 PM
Anett was leading 60 10 when I left the computer. Glad I left, or else my poor nerves... :lol:

Playing against Siniakova atm, won the first set 64 :)

Tennisfan06
Sep 6th, 2012, 07:59 PM
After 2 close games Anett is leading 2-0* in 2nd. :cheer:

Tennisfan06
Sep 6th, 2012, 08:10 PM
A loooooooong game but Siniakova holds after Anett misses 4 bps :facepalm:

Tennisfan06
Sep 6th, 2012, 08:34 PM
Anett won 64 64 :woohoo:
She was leading 3*-2 but got broken, then Anett broke again to get a 5*-4 lead, Siniakova was leading 40-0 in that game! Saved 2 break points in the last game and managed to get away with the victory using only 1 MP :yeah:

Next up is probably Townsend :scared: at least Bouchard is gone :oh:

WhoAmI?
Sep 6th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Beat Siniakova 64 64:D Saved a couple of BPs while serving for the match.

Well done, girl!

I honestly didn't hope for much seeing her draw.

Next up Townsend probably.

chingching
Sep 6th, 2012, 08:53 PM
Anett :cheer:
It is not easy to beat 2 good players in a row, given how hard the first match was, so I am really happy :)
She seems to be playing well again :)
Maybe my prediction is becoming correct :D

TimeyWimey
Sep 6th, 2012, 09:17 PM
kill townsend!

muusa
Sep 6th, 2012, 09:22 PM
Good fights, Anett! Hopefully she is improving with every match.
At first it seemed that Townsend will smash Zacarias, but the second set has been very tight now..

So it is Townsend to go through to QF as expected. Now it is time for Anett to finally beat her.

chingching
Sep 6th, 2012, 09:41 PM
Kill her :D
I don't see why she can't as she has been close in the past and Townsend hasn't been ridiculously impressive, not playing great against Ucros :)
I genuinely think Anett can win this tournament, as Putintseva has just saved a bunch of Set Points and I think will lose the first set :D
BTW could it be on a streamed court???

muusa
Sep 6th, 2012, 10:07 PM
Anett is listed for 25k in Clermond-Ferrand on the week of 24th, but she is only 86th alternate and the list has many 1st and 2nd priorities so it is not very likely that she can participate.

chingching
Sep 7th, 2012, 05:46 AM
Anett is listed for 25k in Clermond-Ferrand on the week of 24th, but she is only 86th alternate and the list has many 1st and 2nd priorities so it is not very likely that she can participate.

She will definately make Qualies, she might or might not make MD :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 7th, 2012, 01:22 PM
She will definately make Qualies, she might or might not make MD :)

what other choice do we have :lol:

btw, it is a pretty decent field for a 25K, if Anett could make it, definitely would be helpful to experience pro circuit

TimeyWimey
Sep 7th, 2012, 04:41 PM
already wasted 3 mps :( c'mon Anett

TimeyWimey
Sep 7th, 2012, 04:42 PM
another mp gone :(

TimeyWimey
Sep 7th, 2012, 04:44 PM
finally closed out, 4 & 4! well done girl :)

WhoAmI?
Sep 7th, 2012, 04:45 PM
The profile pictures of Anett and Taylor Townsend look like they were standing next to each other when those were taken:lol:

http://www.usopen.org/images/players/wta318425.jpg http://www.usopen.org/images/players/wta318609.jpg


Well done, Anett!:worship:
And TT couldn't break her serve not once:)

Chris 84
Sep 7th, 2012, 04:45 PM
and she wins...eventually :cool:

Tennisfan06
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Needed 6 MPs :hysteric: But at least got the job done :D

muusa
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:46 PM
Well done! Now please please do not lose in the semis again :)

In FB Anett says it was very hot today and she used 5 matchballs to make the spectators (her fans) sweat together with her :lol:

chingching
Sep 7th, 2012, 09:17 PM
Well done! Now please please do not lose in the semis again :)

In FB Anett says it was very hot today and she used 5 matchballs to make the spectators (her fans) sweat together with her :lol:

:lol:
Now that's a positive way of looking at choking :D
Whenever Anett chokes, it never seems to cost her the match :)

Here is the full comment :)
Võitsin täna 64 64. Palav ilm oli täna ja mäng oli väga tasavägine. Õnneks servisin täna hästi ja suutsin oma servi hoida kuni mängu lõpuni. Mul on siia päris palju poolehoidjaid Eestist tulnud ja sellepärast võitsin viimase geimi viiendalt matšpallilt, et nemad ka minuga koos natuke higistaks:))))

Sadly no English for BlueTrees, Dan_Doe and TimeyWimey :(

Anyway, I find it really unfair that if Anett reaches the Final here she won't be Top 10 at the end of the year :sobbing:
Surely 2 SFs and a RU should put you in th Top 10 :facepalm:
Also, Wimmer Gets 500, Runner Up gets 180 :mad:
And finally, any round except winning in an easy GA in Mexico or Brazil is the same amount of points as GS :sobbing:
Some photos for the match :)
http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/misc/f_0906_2839_kontaveit_andrew.jpg
http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/misc/f_0906_2838_kontaveit_andrew.jpg
http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/misc/f_0906_2837_kontaveit_andrew.jpg

Also, Anett now has over 1000 likes :D

Tennisfan06
Sep 8th, 2012, 07:28 AM
Guess who is in the front page again :D http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/news/articles/lottner-and-kontaveit-out-to-reach-final-frontier.aspx

Anna Kontaveit and Antonio Lottner :sobbing:

chingching
Sep 8th, 2012, 07:37 AM
Guess who is in the front page again :D http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/news/articles/lottner-and-kontaveit-out-to-reach-final-frontier.aspx

Anna Kontaveit and Antonio Lottner :sobbing:

I know :facepalm:
Anett was not mentioned in the US Open Junuior Wrap-Up though :sobbing:
If she wins she will be :)
Anett is for once the favourite :D

muusa
Sep 8th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Anna Kontaveit and Antonio Lottner :sobbing:

:haha:

Meelis
Sep 8th, 2012, 11:11 AM
zootennis

Australian Open champion Taylor Townsend was the first to go, losing to No. 12 seed Anett Kontaveit of Estonia 6-4, 6-4, whom Townsend had beaten twice in ITF junior events in Australia this year.

"I think I was more consistent and yeah, she played really well in Australia," Kontaveit said when asked the difference between those two losses and her win today. "She won the grand slam and was playing really well."

As most of the spectators sought the shade provided by the TV booth, Kontaveit broke Townsend at 4-4 in the opening set. She went out to a 40-15 lead serving for the set in the next game, then promptly double faulted twice. But she didn't let that bother her, converting on her third set point to take the first set she had ever won from Townsend.

The second set was equally close, but Townsend was not moving forward as often as she does when she is playing her very best, and Kontaveit was able to put pressure on Townsend from the baseline. Townsend failed to convert a break point with Kontaveit serving at 2-3 and was broken in the next game. After both held serve, Kontaveit stepped to the line to serve it out, but the outcome was very much in doubt as the match's longest game played out.

Kontaveit missed 12 of 17 first serves in the five-deuce game, but her second serve was regularly deep and well placed, so she faced only one break point. She saved that with a rare forehand volley winner, then hit two consecutive first serves to finally close it out on her fifth match point.

"The whole match was really tough," said the 16-year-old Kontaveit, who reached the semifinals at both the Wimbledon and the French Open junior championships this year. "I was playing well and serving well and I felt confident."

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 05:34 PM
semis getting underway, c'mon Anett!

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 05:38 PM
early break, 3-0*

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 05:57 PM
double break, 6-2 :)

muusa
Sep 8th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Anett takes the first set 62

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:01 PM
broken starting 2nd, 0-1*

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:04 PM
breaks back 1*-1

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:07 PM
broken to love, what's going on with her serve, wind? 1-2*

muusa
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:07 PM
Served perfectly in the first set, but seems to be in trouble now on her own serves.

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:14 PM
fights off 2 bps to hold for the first time in 2nd, 2-3*

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:18 PM
crucial break 3 all :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:21 PM
4-3* :)

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:27 PM
big hold saving bp, 5-4*

WhoAmI?
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:28 PM
fights off a crucial BP, 5-4* come on!

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:36 PM
shoot! 5-6* :(

WhoAmI?
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:37 PM
oh, Anett:(
Duval serving for the set.

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:39 PM
breaks to love, tiebreak :lol:

WhoAmI?
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:40 PM
3 BPs! convert, convert, convert!


edit: break to love
dang, my interneet's slow.

muusa
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:41 PM
So nerve-wracking :hysteric:

From 50 to 53 now. 63 - take these matchballs!!!

:woohoo: finally in the final!

TimeyWimey
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:45 PM
closed out 7-4 after storming into 5-0, well done girl :worship::hearts:

first grand slam final :yeah:

WhoAmI?
Sep 8th, 2012, 06:49 PM
Anett into the final. Terrific!:worship:

So proud!

penkku
Sep 8th, 2012, 07:08 PM
Anett :D

GL in the final :)

Tennisfan06
Sep 8th, 2012, 09:04 PM
:woohoo: Finally into the final. Take the title :cheer:

chingching
Sep 8th, 2012, 09:05 PM
Anett's Tiebreak Record Remains!!! :D
I really want Anett to win on my birthday... It would be so meant to be :D

Chris 84
Sep 8th, 2012, 09:39 PM
well done anett. will be a tough final, but she can do it :D

HTE
Sep 8th, 2012, 10:24 PM
Good luck in the final :)

Meelis
Sep 8th, 2012, 10:24 PM
http://sport.err.ee/tennis/1514aab3-72f3-48c7-8b12-4741dfa6cb8d

chingching
Sep 9th, 2012, 12:41 AM
http://sport.err.ee/tennis/1514aab3-72f3-48c7-8b12-4741dfa6cb8d

Thanks Meelis :)
I really like Marten :)
Anett has a youtube page also, and uploaded her first video today, although it was very bad quality of Sam Crawford playing so hopefully we will get some videos :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/AnettKontaveit?feature=watch

TimeyWimey
Sep 9th, 2012, 12:53 AM
watched Sam's qualifying match against Pelletier, it was a pretty decent match

chingching
Sep 9th, 2012, 02:10 AM
watched Sam's qualifying match against Pelletier, it was a pretty decent match

I think Anett will win as Sam has had some very close scorelines in her previous matches which I think Anett wold have won more convincingly :)
They are on at 12:00 PM New York Time :)
If Anett wins, she will get more Junior Exempts :D
Although, unless she plays another Junior Tournament, she will just get the same 3 25Ks which would not be very helpful :(
I think she should go and play some 25Ks in Japan and dominate everyone to win Osaka GA and then she could end the year as Number 2 :D
She would also be Number 1 and be holding 3 GAs :yeah:
And even better, she would still have been the player with one of the least amounts of tournaments played :yeah:

muusa
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:16 AM
No video stream of the girls final I guess as they are playing on court 11.. If the men's and women's matched weren't postponed they would have played on the main court?

chingching
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:30 AM
No video stream of the girls final I guess as they are playing on court 11.. If the men's and women's matched weren't postponed they would have played on the main court?

Most unlikely :(
Even if the matches weren't postponed they wouldn't have, even though Crawford is American because last year Min played on an outside court (I know there were rain delays) but even the year before wasn't :(
The last time a Juniors match was streamed was Paszek vs Pavlyuchenkova and I think that was 05 :sobbing:
Hopefully there will at least be some footage of Anett if she wins because she hasn't been in any of the interviews yet :facepalm:

Kəv.
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:44 AM
Caption This
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+8+AS5gbViQlg3l.jpg

:lol:

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+8+XJPNTQ4vYVUl.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+8+EOzXRo2BlNll.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+8+xREI_-WngxEl.jpg
Some pics of her.

WhoAmI?
Sep 9th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Tough match for Anett so far. She was up a break twice, but gave it straight back both times. Saved a BP at 4*-4, but is now broken 5-6*:sobbing:

WhoAmI?
Sep 9th, 2012, 04:52 PM
First set to Crawford 5-7. By the numbers she seems to be a little bit better than Anett so far, a little bit.

WhoAmI?
Sep 9th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Crawford breaks to love to begin the 2nd set, with 2 DFs from Anett. Followed by an easy hold.

0*-2

WhoAmI?
Sep 9th, 2012, 05:12 PM
Crawford cruising on her own serve, while on Anett's serve it's like one point to me, one point to you and then we'll see who gets the game:(

3-4*

WhoAmI?
Sep 9th, 2012, 05:25 PM
Had 0*-30 on Crawford's serve, scoreboard even had 0*-40, but then it changed to 15*-30. So anyway, no break there.

Anett couldn't hold her serve. Crawford wins the title on the first MP.

57 36:hug:

Disappointing, but Anett had still a good tournament.
We'll probably hear soon what her plans are, to continue to play juniors or not, but maybe it's time to focus more on the women's tournaments:shrug:

TimeyWimey
Sep 9th, 2012, 05:44 PM
Anett :hug::hug::hug:

muusa
Sep 9th, 2012, 06:05 PM
Disappointing, but reaching the final is already a nice result. Two semis and a final from slams this year - nobody else has had that kind of consistency. And she only lost to the eventual winners. Will she play some slams next year as well? I guess we will have to wait and see what her team decides, but she could as well play at least the European ones.

Too bad that without the Orangle Bowl points she won't be in top 10 by the end of the year. So it is quite likely that she will go and play the US tournaments in December to get the JEs for the next year. Although, depending on the results of her ITFs she might not even need the lower JEs anymore.

Anyway, next up is Yoshkar-Ola, starting on the 17th.

penkku
Sep 9th, 2012, 07:23 PM
Anett :hug: but great results on slams ;)

Tennisfan06
Sep 9th, 2012, 07:33 PM
Right now I am disappointed. But she stepped one step forward, made it to the final for the first time and this is an awesome result. I am sure she will be extra motivated in AO :)

muusa
Sep 9th, 2012, 07:42 PM
I really want Anett to win on my birthday... It would be so meant to be :D

Happy birthday, Chingching! Too bad that you couldn't get the best present today, but Anett hopefully has a long and successful career ahead so you might get it in the years to come :)

chingching
Sep 9th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Happy birthday, Chingching! Too bad that you couldn't get the best present today, but Anett hopefully has a long and successful career ahead so you might get it in the years to come :)

Thankyou :D
I really thought she would win but Crawford obviously played better :hug:
I think her serve wasn't quite there and it really needed to be today :)
Anyway, whether she will play juniors next year is very debatable but we can only look forward to her next 25K in Yoshkar-Ola :)
I think that with this form she can go one step further :)
Kontaveit looked disheartened, slumping her shoulders and not chasing down balls she seemed to get to in the first set.
I hope this is just USTA drama :scared:

Kəv.
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:14 PM
Anett :hug:

chingching
Sep 10th, 2012, 05:50 AM
Except for Solovieva and maybe Kichenkok, I don't see anyway that will harm Anett if she can play this well :)

Kəv.
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:02 AM
^ you can't really expect anything in a Russian 25k, usually a random qualifier wins it :lol:

Kəv.
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:05 AM
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+W7ZPfkpAmCll.jpg
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+SsIRDh6Txuzl.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+DM6ORNpCHikl.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+jzop5U3OthNl.jpg

Kəv.
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:06 AM
she gets a bigger plate then Crawford :oh:

chingching
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:06 AM
^ you can't really expect anything in a Russian 25k, usually a random qualifier wins it :lol:

Like Kalabina :lol:
Although people like Beck, Gavrilova, Putintseva and Gasparyan have had success :)
I hope for the best, but if Anett plays like she has this week, she will definately pass her current best of QFs :)
BTW, she has gotten almost 1000 Facebook likes in 2 weeks :lol:

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+W7ZPfkpAmCll.jpg
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+SsIRDh6Txuzl.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+DM6ORNpCHikl.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+Open+Day+14+jzop5U3OthNl.jpg
Thanks :)
Some really nice pictures :)
She is so much shorter than Sam :lol:

she gets a bigger plate then Crawford :oh:
That's why she wasn't allowed it on the court :D

It's nice to have a new poster here :)

Kəv.
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:11 AM
i hope she plays more on the pro circuit, but takes it easy at the same time, unlike when she got destroyed in China, it was a good opportunity but I don't know what happened there :shrug:

chingching
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:13 AM
i hope she plays more on the pro circuit, but takes it easy at the same time, unlike when she got destroyed in China, it was a good opportunity but I don't know what happened there :shrug:

Sick, unfocused, bad climate etc.

muusa
Sep 10th, 2012, 07:11 AM
Another article: http://sport.postimees.ee/967062/kontaveidil-jai-i-le-tapp-panemata

Says she is of course a little bit disappointed, but all in all it was a good tournament. When the interviewer points out that she hast lost to the eventual winners in all slams this year she smiles and says she has noticed it too and next time she hopes to be the winner herself.

Flies back to Europe today, then trains either in Sweden or Estonia and heads to Russia at the end of the week. Says she will play more ITFs until the end of the year now.

muusa
Sep 10th, 2012, 07:49 AM
Anett is listed for 25k in Clermond-Ferrand on the week of 24th, but she is only 86th alternate and the list has many 1st and 2nd priorities so it is not very likely that she can participate.

Has withdrawn by now.

chingching
Sep 10th, 2012, 10:44 AM
Another article: http://sport.postimees.ee/967062/kontaveidil-jai-i-le-tapp-panemata

Says she is of course a little bit disappointed, but all in all it was a good tournament. When the interviewer points out that she hast lost to the eventual winners in all slams this year she smiles and says she has noticed it too and next time she hopes to be the winner herself.

Flies back to Europe today, then trains either in Sweden or Estonia and heads to Russia at the end of the week. Says she will play more ITFs until the end of the year now.

Why Sweden??? Anyway, a very nice response :)I hope she can end the year Top 350 :)

Meelis
Sep 10th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Why Sweden???

It´s not so easy to book a court time in Tallin. Plus she might want to hear what Högsdedt and Co has to say.

chingching
Sep 10th, 2012, 11:34 AM
It´s not so easy to book a court time in Tallin. Plus she might want to hear what Högsdedt and Co has to say.

Is Hogstedt in Sweden right now??? I knew that he trained her sometimes :)
Surely it isn't that hard for Anett, the Second best Estonian tennis player and recent US Open Juniors Runner Up to find an Indoor Hard Court :lol: Doesn't she play at EKSM, a smaller club rather than AOTK, Tere or RAM???

Meelis
Sep 10th, 2012, 12:57 PM
Don´t know. Somebody is there for sure.

She will find something, but even Kaia has complained about that.

chingching
Sep 11th, 2012, 09:09 AM
Don´t know. Somebody is there for sure.

She will find something, but even Kaia has complained about that.

Anett is Number 4 in the rankings, 1.25 points behind Lottner :sobbing:
If only she had won that Doubles match with Indy at Wimbledon, she may have won the title :lol:
And Lottner has no points from this year in her ranking so Anett can't overtake her :mad:

IMO, there is only one way for Anett to make Australian Open Qualies: play the ultimate whorers schedule :cheer:
25K Yoshkar-Ola
25K Lagos :lol:
25K Lagos :lol:
25K Netanya :yeah:

I think that she would win at least 2 of these, and if she could collect 150 Points, she would be Top 250, and could scam a Qualies spot :yeah:

Meelis
Sep 13th, 2012, 11:11 AM
http://www.ekspress.ee/news/paevauudised/elu/anett-kontaveit-loomult-voitleja.d?id=64958462

chingching
Sep 13th, 2012, 11:21 AM
http://www.ekspress.ee/news/paevauudised/elu/anett-kontaveit-loomult-voitleja.d?id=64958462
That's a nice article :)
I did used to find it weird that Marten was the only one ever with Anett :)
I never knew her mother was a tennis coach :eek:
She seems really nice and smart :)

WhoAmI?
Sep 13th, 2012, 02:17 PM
http://www.ekspress.ee/news/paevauudised/elu/anett-kontaveit-loomult-voitleja.d?id=64958462

In the end of the article there's a line:

■Lohutav fakt: ka Urszula Radwańska, Martina Hingis, Boris Becker ja Roger Federer jõudsid US Openi noorteturniiri finaali, kuid kaotasid seal.

(Translation:
Urszula Radwańska, Martina Hingis, Boris Becker and Roger Federer also got to the US Open junior's final, but lost.)

:hysteric: Really? I didn't know she was so well known here all of a sudden to bring her as an example, especially amongst those other names:help::lol:

muusa
Sep 13th, 2012, 06:32 PM
In the end of the article there's a line:

(Translation:
Urszula Radwańska, Martina Hingis, Boris Becker and Roger Federer also got to the US Open junior's final, but lost.)

:hysteric: Really? I didn't know she was so well known here all of a sudden to bring her as an example, especially amongst those other names:help::lol:

Yeah that was really random :lol:

Btw, it seems to me that Estonian media is hyping Anett a bit too much using the words like "wunderkind" etc. Also not a single news site mentioned her losses in Asia :oh:
I guess that's the problem of a small country - we have don't have that many world-class athletes and so as soon as someone young and promising appears and starts producing decent results, then they are hyped to the extreme.

chingching
Sep 13th, 2012, 08:53 PM
Yeah that was really random :lol:

Btw, it seems to me that Estonian media is hyping Anett a bit too much using the words like "wunderkind" etc. Also not a single news site mentioned her losses in Asia :oh:
I guess that's the problem of a small country - we have don't have that many world-class athletes and so as soon as someone young and promising appears and starts producing decent results, then they are hyped to the extreme.

There are always articles about her on ERR :lol:
Anyway, I hope she takes it as a good thing... No tournaments this week, but maybe the next week :)
Article on Sam Crawford on the WTA :)
http://www.wtatennis.com/news/20120914/crawford-conquers-us-open-juniors_2256076_2918315
It could have been Anett :sobbing:
Anyway, I am going away so I will be posting less, but that will please many of you :oh:
I get to go on tour like Anett now that holiday tournaments have begun :D

Meelis
Sep 14th, 2012, 01:43 PM
Also not a single news site mentioned her losses in Asia :oh:

Not only losses in Asia.

I can´t decide, if they are clueless and only republish stuff that tennis federation sends to them or they indeed try to "protect" her wunderkind image.

This wunderkind talk started as soon she won Estonian Championships for the first time. Luckily, Anett and her team are ignoring this.

muusa
Sep 15th, 2012, 12:44 PM
Yet another "great" draw for Anett:

(1)Tadeja Majeric (SLO) v Anett Kontaveit (EST)
Marina Shamayko (RUS) v (wc)Daria Prytkova (RUS)
Polina Vinogradova (RUS) v (Q)Emiliya Gadzhieva (RUS)
(6)Nadiya Kichenok (UKR) v (Q)Yulia Kulikova (RUS)

Meelis
Sep 15th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Talented juniors really shouldn't lose to journeywomen. Even though Majeric has found some form lately.