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chingching
Apr 25th, 2012, 02:32 AM
Anett second on court 2 tomorrow. My classes begin tomorrow so I might not be able to stay up too late but at least there is live scoring for every court :)
This is the link:http://www.softprecision.com/livescore/htmlPage/livescoreWebView.php
Also, Anett is 13th acceptance into French Open, hopefully she can get a good result at GA so she can be seeded well. But I guess if she wants to ein, she has to be able to beat them all :)
Here's the entrance list: http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/tournaments/tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100025833

For Anett to break top 400, she needs around 25 points (26 this week, which menas if she can take advantage of this very empty half (all the seeds are gone!!!!) and get some points in CHiasso, she should be top 400 easily.
She needs 26 right now, if she makes semis, she gets 24. I dont see anyone really who is the clear favourite over her, so a semi is possible. A final will be harder, as Ons Jabeur in Tunisia on clay, having saved match point in her last match will be full of confidence, but I think if Anett gets to the final, she can win it!!!
If she did win, she would be ranked around 365!!!!
She could get into almost all 25ks with that rank!!! And she would have only played 4 tourneys this year :)

muusa
Apr 25th, 2012, 03:31 PM
Unfortunately Anett lost to Richel Hogenkamp 26 36. That's quite a clear loss. I wonder if she needs some more time to adjust to clay as it was the first tournament after a long time (and almost no practice beforehand), while the other opponents had already played some clay-tournaments.

Next up is Chiasso, which is even tougher :scared: I guess top 400 has to wait.

Dan_Doe
Apr 25th, 2012, 05:35 PM
That's bad:sad:

nimona123
Apr 25th, 2012, 06:10 PM
clear loss, but no worries, i would say anett is still in TOP300 with her game..

chingching
Apr 25th, 2012, 09:17 PM
She's always going to through in a loss here and ther. But richel is a good player, I knew before the match it would be tough for Anett to win but I thought she might in 3 but it weasn't tp be. But richel won a 50K in Astana once, smashing the likes of evgeniya rodina, zarina diyas and ekaterina bychkova

muusa
Apr 27th, 2012, 05:31 AM
Anett is on the entry lists of the following 25k tournaments starting on May 14th: Caserta, Moscow and Casablanca. This is also the order of her preferences. Currently she is in the alternates in all of them, but I suppose that at least for Moscow and Casablanca she can eventually get into the qualifiying list, likely even seeded.

chingching
Apr 27th, 2012, 06:22 AM
Anett is on the entry lists of the following 25k tournaments starting on May 14th: Caserta, Moscow and Casablanca. This is also the order of her preferences. Currently she is in the alternates in all of them, but I suppose that at least for Moscow and Casablanca she can eventually get into the qualifiying list, likely even seeded.

That's great :)
She might even make MD for Moscow (LDA was 500 and something for the one the same weeks as bath)

muusa
Apr 27th, 2012, 06:38 AM
Oh, and just noticed that she has also 4th preference for 50k Saint-Gaudens and 5th for 100k Prague.:lol:

chingching
Apr 27th, 2012, 11:21 AM
Oh, and just noticed that she has also 4th preference for 50k Saint-Gaudens and 5th for 100k Prague.:lol:

Yeah I was gonna mention it :)
Maybe she could have played in Fergana instead (even though I am so against whoring points)
I think it would be nice to try some higehr level challengers, but they are all so strong and her ranking is no where near the mark. All though I think if she reached her peak form she really could do some damage at 50 and 100ks. Look at some of her wins!!!!

Meelis
Apr 27th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Pretty sure she would make the qualifying cut in all of these tournaments (maybe Prague being a little bit doubtful, but probably even there). Caserta seems most likely - makes sense in traveling sense and will have a weak field.

muusa
Apr 30th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Anett's quarter of the draw in Chiasso:

(7)Victoria Larriere (FRA) v Leticia Costas-Moreira (ESP)
Sandra Zaniewska (POL) v Q/LL
(JE)Anett Kontaveit (EST) v Margalita Chakhnashvili (GEO)
(2)Yvonne Meusburger (AUT) v Q/LL

Pretty tough, second seed Meusburger (who has a number of losses this year, but in higher level tournaments) and the winner of Tunis, Zaniewska.

muusa
Apr 30th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Pretty sure she would make the qualifying cut in all of these tournaments (maybe Prague being a little bit doubtful, but probably even there). Caserta seems most likely - makes sense in traveling sense and will have a weak field.

Yeah, Caserta it is as she has now withdrawn from every other tournament.

Tennisfan06
Apr 30th, 2012, 06:39 PM
Tough draw but hopefully she can win a match :unsure:

chingching
Apr 30th, 2012, 08:11 PM
I think that if she gets there, the QF will be the hardest. After that she has Putintseva or Domachowska

Dan_Doe
Apr 30th, 2012, 09:43 PM
Even if she beats the Georgian and Meusburger, Zaniewska is too much at this moment. But she may lose in the first round as well, given her consistency.

chingching
May 1st, 2012, 09:15 AM
Anetts opponent is in really bad form. She has won no MD matches since october last year :eek:
BTW, Anett also pulled out of Caserta so maybe shes waiting for some easier 25Ks

Tennisfan06
May 2nd, 2012, 06:50 PM
Had to wait all day but here it finally is: (JE)Anett Kontaveit (EST) d. Margalita Chakhnashvili (GEO) 64 61
Next up is (Q)Tereza Mrdeza (CRO) who beat (2)Yvonne Meusburger (AUT) 76(5) 36 63

muusa
May 2nd, 2012, 06:51 PM
(JE)Anett Kontaveit (EST) d. Margalita Chakhnashvili (GEO) 64 61

Very good, another 8p earned, should be around 421 now. :)

Also, Meusburger and Zaniewska are both out, so the next opponent is Tereza Mrdeza. Don't know anything about her other than that she is on her career high ranking of 236 atm. The draw seems to open up, let's hope Anett has now gained some confidence on clay and can get some more wins.

muusa
May 2nd, 2012, 06:54 PM
Had to wait all day but here it finally is: (JE)Anett Kontaveit (EST) d. Margalita Chakhnashvili (GEO) 64 61
Next up is (Q)Tereza Mrdeza (CRO) who beat (2)Yvonne Meusburger (AUT) 76(5) 36 63

You beat me with the news :lol:

Btw, tomorrow Anett has 3rd match on court 2, the first one starts at 10. Sadly we have to wait all day again for the result.

chingching
May 2nd, 2012, 08:56 PM
ANETT!!!
I thought shed win. Mrdeza seems to have been in better form but have lower potential. SHes just been playing the 25s and has been making QF, Sf nearly every week. I think Anett can take her. Anett needs her revenge over stefi for Glasgow :)
I really hope she makes at least the quarters, her tournaments are goung so quickly :tape:

Dan_Doe
May 3rd, 2012, 11:11 AM
Good win for Anett, even if her opponent was in such a bad form, as chingching said before.
Good thing that Meusberger and Zaniewska are out, but still Anett has to do some hard work to win the next 2 matches.

muusa
May 3rd, 2012, 05:08 PM
Tereza MRDEZA (CRO) 2-6 6-3 6-2 Anett KONTAVEIT (EST)

Rather disappointing. Yeah, she is not ready to constantly beat top 250 players, but I expected a better run still. However, the likes of Putintseva and Khromacheva also did not make it far.
At least Jürgen and Kaia won today :p

I wonder what will her schedule be in the next two months - probably only juniors (as she pulled out of the 25k-s mid-May): GA, RG, maybe G1 Roehampton and then Wimbledon?

chingching
May 3rd, 2012, 09:53 PM
Tereza MRDEZA (CRO) 2-6 6-3 6-2 Anett KONTAVEIT (EST)

Rather disappointing. Yeah, she is not ready to constantly beat top 250 players, but I expected a better run still. However, the likes of Putintseva and Khromacheva also did not make it far.
At least Jürgen and Kaia won today :p

I wonder what will her schedule be in the next two months - probably only juniors (as she pulled out of the 25k-s mid-May): GA, RG, maybe G1 Roehampton and then Wimbledon?

I still think she should play the 25K Kristinehamm the same week as wimbly qualies (the week before roehampton) as it will be weaker because many are playing qualifying and those from MD woudlnt go from clay to grass in a matter of days. I think it would be a good place close to home. Then she can have a week at wimbledon practicing on the courts and be ready for juniors :)
She needs to start making more Qfs as soon some of her points will come off.
I think that she can only beat the really highly ranked players (like schoofs, paszek, mladenovic) at bigger events because she is seen as the underdog. At 25s, everyone counts her in as a potential winner. Hopefully she can do better at these lower events. :)

chingching
May 4th, 2012, 05:57 AM
Her tournaments are passing so quickly. She only has 7 tournaments left all year, and if shes going to continue playing these hard tournaments, she is not going to be top 300 :sad:

muusa
May 4th, 2012, 06:41 AM
Her tournaments are passing so quickly. She only has 7 tournaments left all year, and if shes going to continue playing these hard tournaments, she is not going to be top 300 :sad:

If I calculated correctly, she has 36 points to defend until the end of the year. I am sure she will be inside top 350/400 by the end of the year, but reaching top 300 is a bit doubtful if she keeps on losing in second rounds. On the other hand, reaching at least one SF for example would already give a strong boost to the ranking, so her goal is still achievable. Playing more WTA-s does also not help the cause, but on the contrary reduces it as the points awarded in qualification are quite limited (played 3 hard high level matches in Copenhagen and only got 10 points altogether).

chingching
May 7th, 2012, 02:10 AM
I was thinking that maybe because Anett is not performing as well as we would have hoped at 25s, she could try the first ever 15K in prerov. You get 20 ranking points if you win, more than I thought you would get and if she won it plus her Chiasso points sshe would be around 380:eek:
BTW, she is at a career high today of 450 :cheer:
Also, if Anett can win a GA and get a decent amount of points from RG + Wimbly, she could get another lot of JEs for next year. I would recommend that she plays G1 Linz again because winner gets a WC into WTA Linz Q draw :)

BTW, IMO WTA qualies are so underpointed

muusa
May 7th, 2012, 07:18 AM
Also, if Anett can win a GA and get a decent amount of points from RG + Wimbly, she could get another lot of JEs for next year.

Now watch her lose in the 3rd round of that GA or sth like that, because she has the pressure to do well :oh:

chingching
May 7th, 2012, 10:31 AM
Now watch her lose in the 3rd round of that GA or sth like that, because she has the pressure to do well :oh:

You're definately right about her performing better as an underdog
I still think she will struggle to lose before the Qf or Sf

chingching
May 10th, 2012, 11:15 AM
i really want Anett to play 25K Maribor or 15K Prerov
They are slightly weaker but still some good competitiona available :)

Also, Anett is now 4 seed for Trofeo Bonfiglio :cheer:
She also rose to 13 in this weeks rankings (every Estonians ranking rose or stayed the same :))

chingching
May 11th, 2012, 12:40 PM
Here is full Match Anett vs Caroline Garcia 3rd Round WImbledon 2011 Thanks to TimeyWimey :)
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chingching
May 12th, 2012, 12:15 AM
I don't think he wants those posted outside the original thread :secret: He said it many times ;)

He dint mind before. And I only posted it to Anetts thread. Not many people see the video thread

chingching
May 13th, 2012, 01:35 PM
Does anyone know what WTAs Anett plans on playing. Maybe she should play the 125K WTAs at the end of the year in India and Taiwan??? I cant' believe she only has 7 Pro tournaments left this year :sad:

muusa
May 13th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Does anyone know what WTAs Anett plans on playing. Maybe she should play the 125K WTAs at the end of the year in India and Taiwan??? I cant' believe she only has 7 Pro tournaments left this year :sad:

Depends to where she gets the wildcards.. As discussed earlier Bastad could be an option. But nobody probably knows at the moment.

Actually I think 7 tournaments is not that bad, considering in May and June she'll most likely play only juniors, then USO and a possible warmup Canadian Open covers at least another 3 weeks if you count travelling and acclimatization etc. She mentioned playing juniors in December, so it's probably Eddie Herr and Orange Bowl again. I guess she tries to be in top 10 again by the end of the year which would give some more JEs.

So what have we left - July (almost full), half August, half September, October and November, that's almost 2 Pro tournaments per month, which is totally ok I think.

chingching
May 14th, 2012, 11:04 AM
Depends to where she gets the wildcards.. As discussed earlier Bastad could be an option. But nobody probably knows at the moment.

Actually I think 7 tournaments is not that bad, considering in May and June she'll most likely play only juniors, then USO and a possible warmup Canadian Open covers at least another 3 weeks if you count travelling and acclimatization etc. She mentioned playing juniors in December, so it's probably Eddie Herr and Orange Bowl again. I guess she tries to be in top 10 again by the end of the year which would give some more JEs.

So what have we left - July (almost full), half August, half September, October and November, that's almost 2 Pro tournaments per month, which is totally ok I think.

You're probably right. I think that she should not play US Open. I think she should have won all the G1 and G2s that Belinda did, which would have almost guarenteed her top 10 if she does decently well at wimbly, RG, TB and roehampton.

chingching
May 15th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Anett up to a career high of 419 :cheer:
If she can get around 115 points (thats including savitaipale, stockholm, almere, helsinki, glasgow and tampere) she will be top 300.
So if she can make 2 semis, a final and wins a 25K, she will basically be there comfortably. If she can qualify for a WTA International MD and win a round she will gain 46

chingching
May 17th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Anett is 3rd seed for Trofeo Bonfiglio :eek:
I just saw that she is ahead which really shocked me
Now she won't have Kulichkova or Danilina till the semis!!!!!!! :cheer:
IMO, the only players who have a legitimate chance at beating Anett before semis are Uberalova, Vickery, Abanda and Kan and Abanda is bad on clay and I wouldn't say it's Sachia's best

Also, anyone interested in seeing how Diana Marcinkevica plays, she is playing on court now in Caserta (live stream available). I am curious how she beat Anett

chingching
May 17th, 2012, 11:28 AM
An update on Marcinkevica, she is really good. Similar to Anett. Given the mistakes Diana makes though, I think she must have played exceptionally well to beat Anett so comfortably. But seeing her play, I am not totally surprised she won. Should beat Krunic here and make SF!!

chingching
May 19th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Trofeo Bonfiglio Draw:
(1)Anna Danilina (KAZ) v Kathinka von Deichmann (LIE)
Christina Makarova (USA) v Q/LL
Diana Bogoliy (UKR) v Katerina Siniakova (CZE)
(13)Iva Mekovec (CRO) v Marie Benoit (BEL)

(10)Carol Zhao (CAN) v (wc)Fiona Ferro (ITA)
Daria Salnikova (RUS) v Victoria Rodriguez (MEX)
Megane Bianco (SUI) v (wc)Maria Masini (ITA)
(5)Maria Ines Deheza (BOL) v Rebecca Peterson (SWE)

(3)Anett Kontaveit (EST) v Kimberley Zimmermann (BEL)
Alina Silich (RUS) v Q/LL
Mai El Kamash (EGY) v (wc)Giulia Pairone (ITA)
(15)Jennifer Brady (USA) v Emily Fanning (NZL)

(9)Victoria Kan (RUS) v Erin Routliffe (CAN)
Su Jeong Jang (KOR) v Aldila Sutjiadi (INA)
(wc)Deborah Chiesa (ITA) v Q/LL
(6)Laura Pigossi (BRA) v Petra Uberalova (SVK)

(8)Beatriz Haddad Maia (BRA) v Deborah Kerfs (BEL)
(wc)Angelica Moratelli (ITA) v Q/LL
Oleksandra Korashvili (UKR) v Olga Doroshina (RUS)
(11)Marcela Zacarias (MEX) v Dominika Paterova (CZE)

(14)Ilka Csoregi (ROU) v Q/LL
Blair Shankle (USA) v Laura Ucros (COL)
Jelena Ostapenko (LAT) v Natalia Vajdova (SVK)
(4)Montserrat Gonzalez (PAR) v (wc)Jasmine Paolini (ITA)

(7)Sachia Vickery (USA) v Marianna Zakarlyuk (UKR)
Ana Konjuh (CRO) v (wc)Alice Matteucci (ITA)
Varvara Flink (RUS) v Ipek Soylu (TUR)
(12)Francoise Abanda (CAN) v Q/LL

(16)Elise Mertens (BEL) v Ayaka Okuno (JPN)
Q/LL v Q/LL
Zarah Razafimahatratra (MAD) v Katrine Isabel Steffensen (USA)
(2)Elizaveta Kulichkova (RUS) v (wc)Beatrice Savignone (ITA)

Anett has by far the easiest draw of the top 4 seeds. Look at section 7 (Vickery, Konjuh, Flink and Abanda :eek:)
Her only real threats come in QF against Kan/Uberalova but I think she should get past them. And then in the semis, they're mainly hardcourt players except for Danilina (:rolleyes) and I don't see much trouble. Given the draw and Anett having the ability to work her way into tournaments, I think that she is one of the favourites :)

I wonder if she is playng doubles. If so, I hope its with Eva :)

Dan_Doe
May 19th, 2012, 02:38 PM
I think the only 2 threats in the way to the final are Kan and Danilina.
Let's pray for a Kontaveit - Konjuh final :oh:

chingching
May 19th, 2012, 02:44 PM
I think the only 2 threats in the way to the final are Kan and Danilina.
Let's pray for a Kontaveit - Konjuh final :oh:

As I said, Konjuh actually has a shot. If she can get out of that 8th and gains some confidence, she could really ruffle some feathers. I really wanna watch Anett play on clay (it is her best surface) and if she makes semis, I do!!!!!!

Kontaveit/Konjuh for doubles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheer:

muusa
May 21st, 2012, 05:43 AM
Anett's match is third today, but I guess we won't get any results anyway until all the matches are done?

Looks like they have rearranged the schedule, now 6th match of the day..

chingching
May 21st, 2012, 10:54 AM
Shame
I will find out tomorrow. I would expect her to win though
On brighter topics, Anett has reached Career High of 418 :)
I only just realised that Anett has never lost to a player lower ranked than her in Pro circuit singles which is a wonderful achievement!!

Dan_Doe
May 21st, 2012, 02:33 PM
Only the semifinal and final are streamed right? :confused:

It seems so. But it's better than nothing :p

Meelis
May 21st, 2012, 07:06 PM
I wonder if she is playng doubles. If so, I hope its with Eva :)

She plays doubles with Rebecca Peterson.

Still, kind an all Estonian pair :p

Dan_Doe
May 21st, 2012, 07:08 PM
With Danilina, Pigossi and Kan gone, Anett's road to the final is so easy :bounce:

muusa
May 21st, 2012, 08:16 PM
Looks like she couldn't play her match after all today. All this wait in vain. But yeah, some favorites have already lost their matches, maybe it has also sth to do with the random surfaces they were playing on - who can adapt better and who not. Let's hope Anett won't bomb out in early rounds :oh:

chingching
May 21st, 2012, 09:11 PM
She plays doubles with Rebecca Peterson.

Still, kind an all Estonian pair :p

I think that they are quite friendly as they have played before :)

Looking at their draw, they should do quite well. No one hard except perhaps good singles players siniakova and flink and then zhao and maia i don't expect to be the biggest challenge. I just hope anett doesn't bomb out early in dubs like she did last year. If Anett wins this tournament and she loses first round of doubles, and Kulichkova loses before the quarters, Anett goes up to career high number 3. Everyone is so close together in the rankings and no one is playing the big tournaments. This is perhaps the strongest GA thats not a grand slam, and now Anett is the comfortable favourite :lol:

Meelis
May 21st, 2012, 09:43 PM
(3)Anett Kontaveit (EST) d. Kimberley Zimmermann (BEL) 46 64 62

muusa
May 21st, 2012, 10:09 PM
(3)Anett Kontaveit (EST) d. Kimberley Zimmermann (BEL) 46 64 62

Not a very convincing win, Kimberley is barely in top 100 :unsure:

chingching
May 22nd, 2012, 01:39 AM
Not a very convincing win, Kimberley is barely in top 100 :unsure:

Apparently they moved it to indoor hard/synthetic grass.
Anyway, Anett is never convincing in her first rounds :)

chingching
May 22nd, 2012, 09:32 PM
Anett and Rebecca won 62 63. Good luck in next round against flink/siniakova

chingching
May 23rd, 2012, 02:16 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/181431_313190215426552_307603032651937_710550_1753 666538_n.jpg
Anett and Eva look wonderful don't they :haha:

According to an email I received, Anett lost 57 63 60 :eek:
That is her 3rd bagel of the year. She only got 3 last year and they were all against top 30 players (except for Govortsova). So stupid. She ccould have been number 3 :facepalm:

Lets hope she can last in doubles :)

Dan_Doe
May 23rd, 2012, 02:50 PM
Too much sleeping :oh:

muusa
May 23rd, 2012, 04:03 PM
Now watch her lose in the 3rd round of that GA or sth like that, because she has the pressure to do well :oh:

Looks like I was wrong, she did not make it to the 3rd round :oh:

But seriously, she is now struggling with players who are barely junior top 100? What's happened? And not to mention all those bagels..

Tennisfan06
May 23rd, 2012, 08:35 PM
Won in doubles. But WTF!!?? Go back to pro tour :lol:

TimeyWimey
May 24th, 2012, 12:27 AM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/181431_313190215426552_307603032651937_710550_1753 666538_n.jpg
Anett and Eva look wonderful don't they :haha:

According to an email I received, Anett lost 57 63 60 :eek:
That is her 3rd bagel of the year. She only got 3 last year and they were all against top 30 players (except for Govortsova). So stupid. She ccould have been number 3 :facepalm:

Lets hope she can last in doubles :)

:lol::lol:

chingching
May 24th, 2012, 02:27 AM
At least she won in doubles. At first I was wary with muusa's comment but after seeing her draw I though it would be impossible not to do well. Anyway, hopefully she continues this rare doubles form and can go back to pro tour. She still has never lost to anyone ranked lower than her on pro tour. And in Juniors, I expect her to do better at Roland Garros given that she plays better against good players :)

In doubles though, if she doesn't brainfart again, she has a wonderful chance of making the semis or final

muusa
May 24th, 2012, 05:42 PM
Lost in the doubles as well today.

Dan_Doe
May 24th, 2012, 06:15 PM
Anett is too weak for juniors. She should go back to the pro circuit :oh:

TimeyWimey
May 25th, 2012, 02:02 AM
another bad tourny for her :(

WhoAmI?
May 25th, 2012, 04:34 AM
Anett is too weak for juniors. She should go back to the pro circuit :oh:

:lol:

Well, it makes me think how will she cope in the pros once she's not an up and comer, but has to back up her results. I hope she won't be one season's butterfly like many others.

chingching
May 25th, 2012, 09:28 AM
Anett has not entered into any tournaments the week after roland garros

muusa
May 30th, 2012, 11:41 AM
Anett is also on the entry list for Roehampton G1 in June. But first up RG next week. The main draw will be out on Sunday I guess..? Anyway, considering her latest results I do not expect much.

chingching
May 30th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Anett is also on the entry list for Roehampton G1 in June. But first up RG next week. The main draw will be out on Sunday I guess..? Anyway, considering her latest results I do not expect much.

Anett lost to a good player in Lekaj. She likes to rise to the situation and plays better at Roland Garros then at other tournaments. I think she can do well but she has a potential for a ridiculously hard draw (Vekic and Beck and Svitolina first 3 rounds :scared:)

I really want her to play dubs with indy and do well here
If she wins she goes up to Number 2 :lol:
The juniors are so close together :eek:

Dan_Doe
May 30th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Anett lost to a good player n Lekaj. She likes to rise to the situation and plays better at Roland Garros then at other tournaments. I think she can do well but she has a potential for a ridiculously hard draw (Vekic and Beck and Svitolina first 3 rounds :scared:)

All those three girls would normally beat Anett, especially given her form. Lekaj is good indeed, but still shouldn't be good enough to defeat Anett. And yet she did.

chingching
May 30th, 2012, 01:44 PM
All those three girls would normally beat Anett, especially given her form. Lekaj is good indeed, but still shouldn't be good enough to defeat Anett. And yet she did.

You think those girls can all beat Anett!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Donna=You're dreaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bek=Anett says she would have beaten if she hadn't wasted so much energy in Mladenovic's match
Svitolina=Huge consistency problem. Would be favourite but can have spaz days

Meelis
May 30th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Svitolina does not even play. Beck and Vekic will be seeded. So it´s impossible for them to face Anett before R3.

chingching
May 30th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Svitolina does not even play. Beck and Vekic will be seeded. So it´s impossible for them to face Anett in early rounds.

Are they using pro rankings for seedings :eek:
Thats good. It means I don't think Donna can meet Anett till quarters

Meelis
May 30th, 2012, 02:17 PM
Are they using pro rankings for seedings :eek:

yes

ITF - WTA

1 -150

2 151-175

3-4 176-200

-6 201-225

7-8 226-250

-11 251-275

12-14 276-300

5-17 301-325

8-20 326-350

Dan_Doe
May 30th, 2012, 02:25 PM
You think those girls can all beat Anett!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Donna=You're dreaming!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bek=Anett says she would have beaten if she hadn't wasted so much energy in Mladenovic's match
Svitolina=Huge consistency problem. Would be favourite but can have spaz days

You're pointless :facepalm:
You understand that Svitolina is better, that's a good start. Svitolina on a normal day would beat Anett, on a good day would beat Anett, and on a bad day Anett would win.
If Anett says she could beat Beck if she wasn't tired doesn't mean she really would. If she played better, Annika would've played better too.
And I'm wondering how the dreaming me would influence a match between Donna and Anett :oh:
Still don't get your points. Neh, you don't have any. I still think all of those girls are better players than Anett in this moment and even more consistant.

muusa
May 30th, 2012, 02:37 PM
I still think all of those girls are better players than Anett and even more consistant.

Yeah, Svitolina and Beck are currently better, no doubt. They are also at least 2 years older than Anett and in top 200, so no surprise there. I have no idea about Vekic, those 25k-s she won (or got to the finals) were pretty weak overall, but she did defeat a bunch of top 250 players. Depends on the surface also I guess.

We should wait until these 3 tournaments are over (RG, Roehampton and Wimbledon) to draw any conclusions about Anett being in a slump or sth.

Dan_Doe
May 30th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Yeah, Svitolina and Beck are currently better, no doubt. They are also at least 2 years older than Anett and in top 200, so no surprise there. I have no idea about Vekic, those 25k-s she won (or got to the finals) were pretty weak overall, but she did defeat a bunch of top 250 players. Depends on the surface also I guess.

We should wait until these 3 tournaments are over (RG, Roehampton and Wimbledon) to draw any conclusions about Anett being in a slump or sth.

That's why I mentioned they are better in this very moment. A two years difference is important at this age. Anett may become a better player than Beck and Svitolina in the future. As for Donna, I'm really curious how she'll cope with stronger opponents. Now it's hard to compare her to other juniors, because she didn't play many tournament in the juniors itf.

chingching
May 30th, 2012, 02:49 PM
You're pointless :facepalm:
You understand that Svitolina is better, that's a good start. Svitolina on a normal day would beat Anett, on a good day would beat Anett, and on a bad day Anett would win.
If Anett says she could beat Beck if she wasn't tired doesn't mean she really would. If she played better, Annika would've played better too.
And I'm wondering how the dreaming me would influence a match between Donna and Anett :oh:
Still don't get your points. Neh, you don't have any. I still think all of those girls are better players than Anett in this moment and even more consistant.

I of course agree with consistency. Thats a no-brainer. But Anett is the only one of those players never to lose to a player ranked lower than her in Protennis, and she has now played for almost 2 years :bowdown:

She was beating Annika in Copenhagen 6-4 3-3 Game point when everyone was getting broken. She faded from there. Svitolina is better but can fall apart. I don't understand why everyone thinks Donna's so amazing. For her age she is excellent and has achieved amazing things, which no one can take away from her. But the only tournaments between the two that you can compare are juniors, where Donna has done badly.

Look at Anett's pro results this year:
Top 40 loss
Top 50 Win
Top 150 Win
Several easy wins in Tallinn over lower ranked players
Top 300 Win
Top 400 Win (IIRC) who had just beaten Kostova top 160
Top 400 loss (weird)
Dont know Wienerova
Top 200 win
Top 200 loss
Top 250 Win
Top 250 Loss IIRC
Top 200 Win
Top 230 Loss

To add to these stats, every player Anett has lost to has made at least the semi's of that tournament.

Donna's results:
Top 120 Loss
Less than top 1000 win
Top 700 Loss
To 300 loss IIRC
1 Top 250 Win
Top 300 Win
Top 500 Loss
1 Top 300 Win

To add to Donna's stats, all of the highly ranked players she defeated also got easy points. You can't say she beat so and so top 250 players meaning she deserves to be top 250 when the plaers she beat barely deserve to be top 300. The tournaments in Uzbekistan are not weak in rank, they are weak in talent!!

Also, Donna doesn't like Clay.

And BTW, I am not pointless ;)

yes

ITF - WTA

1 -150

2 151-175

3-4 176-200

-6 201-225

7-8 226-250

-11 251-275

12-14 276-300

5-17 301-325

8-20 326-350

Doesn't that mean Anett will be unseeded?
I don't get your Table :confused:

Meelis
May 30th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Doesn't that mean Anett will be unseeded?
I don't get your Table :confused:

No, she will stay inside 16 seeds. She is ranked 14th. Barty and Min are not playing. Beck, Gavrilova and Vekic will be seeded thanks to their senior ranking.

Top 150 WTA ranking equals (for the seeding purposes) #1 ITF juniors ranking, top 175 WTA ranking equals #2 ITF juniors ranking, top 200 WTA ranking equals top 4 ITF juniors ranking etc.

Dan_Doe
May 30th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Than I propose you to create a gap between #200 and #300 and move the players, so that the #300-#400 spots could have two players on each position, so they can all be ranked as they deserve.
You were pointless actually. Than you came up with statistics and you are no more. But statistics aren't so relevant for me. I still think Donna would beat Anett. At least on hard, which is the most common surface.
But to start with the begining, I didn't ever say Donna is better than Anett, I've said I (me, myself) think that she is better. You could've told me your believings are the other way around and it would be fine, but you claim - as you always do - that your opinions are the right ones, meaning I was wrong.
And you defend Anett like I'm hating on her or something. No, you know I don't. I'm just telling my opinions, which may prove true, or may prove wrong and which aren't related at all with my preferences, but with my judgement.
There's a lot of facts that decide the winner of a match and indirect statistics (by indirect I mean not face to face statistics, but judging on matches against different other players) aren't one of them.
If you think Donna is not as good as people think, I wonder why do you always post there and criticise her schedule. On the other hand I believe in Anett.

And most important than everything is that it's not important at all who's better than whom. Both are promising players and when they will face each other, we shall see who's who.

chingching
May 30th, 2012, 09:20 PM
Than I propose you to create a gap between #200 and #300 and move the players, so that the #300-#400 spots could have two players on each position, so they can all be ranked as they deserve.
You were pointless actually. Than you came up with statistics and you are no more. But statistics aren't so relevant for me. I still think Donna would beat Anett. At least on hard, which is the most common surface.
But to start with the begining, I didn't ever say Donna is better than Anett, I've said I (me, myself) think that she is better. You could've told me your believings are the other way around and it would be fine, but you claim - as you always do - that your opinions are the right ones, meaning I was wrong.
And you defend Anett like I'm hating on her or something. No, you know I don't. I'm just telling my opinions, which may prove true, or may prove wrong and which aren't related at all with my preferences, but with my judgement.
There's a lot of facts that decide the winner of a match and indirect statistics (by indirect I mean not face to face statistics, but judging on matches against different other players) aren't one of them.
If you think Donna is not as good as people think, I wonder why do you always post there and criticise her schedule. On the other hand I believe in Anett.

And most important than everything is that it's not important at all who's better than whom. Both are promising players and when they will face each other, we shall see who's who.

I simply don't understand what made you form that opinion of Donna. IMO, it makes no sense :shrug:

BTW, Anett is 331 on the race. Given that her results so far this year have been quite mediocre with some nice standouts, she really does have the ability to make top 300 if she could make a 25K semi :)
Sabina Sharipova did it when she was 14!!!!!

TimeyWimey
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:42 PM
RG Girls Singles draw is here :) miss Kontaveit is no 12 seed :)

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/draws/gs/r1s2.html

Dan_Doe
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:53 PM
Kinda' unlucky draw for Anett. Flink as a first round opponent is prety tough, but ANett shouldn't have any problem.
Then Hardebeck, who is tough too, in R2, and then Genie Bouchard, one of the toughest opponents on clay.

chingching
Jun 2nd, 2012, 02:33 PM
RG Girls Singles draw is here :) miss Kontaveit is no 12 seed :)

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/draws/gs/r1s2.html

And Siniakova is 5 :mad:
Anett has a thing for Bad Draws in Juniors

But if she whethers the storm, the draw opens up for a Semi
And anyway, if she wants to win the tournament, she will have to beat them sometime :)

chingching
Jun 3rd, 2012, 01:31 PM
Anett is playing doubles with Ipek Soylu and could face top seeds second round

TimeyWimey
Jun 3rd, 2012, 02:32 PM
break down in the 3rd 0-1* :(

TimeyWimey
Jun 3rd, 2012, 02:46 PM
anett breaks back at 2-2

TimeyWimey
Jun 3rd, 2012, 02:48 PM
:facepalm: broken to love 2-3* :facepalm:

TimeyWimey
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:01 PM
breaks back 4-4 :)

TimeyWimey
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:05 PM
5-4

TimeyWimey
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:08 PM
she won, 6-4, nice effort after a very disappointing first set :bounce:

Rusher
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:12 PM
Tough start but nice that Anett advanced. :)

WhoAmI?
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:28 PM
Pressure getting to her?:unsure: or this is her form...

Anyways, good fight after devastating 1st set:)


EDIT: In an interview Anett said that she's been focusing on studying, it has taken a lot of energy. (She should be graduating from basic school)

chingching
Jun 3rd, 2012, 09:35 PM
Pressure getting to her?:unsure: or this is her form...

Anyways, good fight after devastating 1st set:)


EDIT: In an interview Anett said that she's been focusing on studying, it has taken a lot of energy. (She should be graduating from basic school)

Which interview???
BTW, isn't she only 16. DOn't you have to be 17/18 to graduate from school???

chingching
Jun 3rd, 2012, 09:39 PM
A picture of Anett from Roland Garros:
http://f1.pmo.ee/f/2012/06/03/1144182t20h85c5.jpg
BTW, I found the article :)
Next she faces Kathinka von Deichman who is much easier than Hardebeck :cheer:

TimeyWimey
Jun 3rd, 2012, 09:56 PM
from flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7329497990_4501c7bf59_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7217/7329140588_5508d2e6a7_c.jpg

muusa
Jun 3rd, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nice pics :)

Great that she managed to close it out in the third set, but far from her best form. I have noticed that if she does not win it in straigths in the first round(s), then she usually loses early - for example Trofeo Bonfiglio, Traralgon, US Open, Canadian Open.
Anyway, as she said, she has school to deal with and I think that is currently much more important than some junior tournaments even if these are slams. Still, let's hope she is not that eager to get back home to the exams (or maybe they are already finished, not sure) and can win some more matches :lol:

Which interview???
BTW, isn't she only 16. DOn't you have to be 17/18 to graduate from school???

The article is here: http://sport.postimees.ee/863752/kontaveit-viimasel-ajal-on-oppimisele-palju-energiat-lainud

She is graduating from 9th grade. After that she will have 3 more years of gymnasium (high school). I wonder if she will continue her studies in Audentes (a sports school where she could combine studying with her tennis career more easily) or somewhere else.

WhoAmI?
Jun 4th, 2012, 04:56 AM
Well, their exam period starts with today. And ends on 15th. She'll have to do them a bit later.

muusa
Jun 4th, 2012, 06:31 AM
And another article: http://sport.postimees.ee/864026/anett-kontaveit-raskest-mangust-ma-ei-andnud-kordagi-alla/

It also mentions that she was supposed to play doubles with Indy, but she had to withdraw due to a back injury.

chingching
Jun 4th, 2012, 01:33 PM
from flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7329497990_4501c7bf59_c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7217/7329140588_5508d2e6a7_c.jpg

Anett looks much shorter there but they are nice

I swear I have heard the name Audentes before :confused:

chingching
Jun 5th, 2012, 12:36 PM
Anett won 4-6 6-1 6-2
Nice last 2 sets and good luck with Ipek for doubles :)
She will play Eugenie tomorrow in the 3rd round

Tenisci
Jun 5th, 2012, 05:54 PM
won doubles R1 with Ipek Soylu :)

Tennisfan06
Jun 5th, 2012, 07:25 PM
Well done Anett and Anett/Ipek :)

Now against Bouchard in both singles and doubles tomorrow :lol:

muusa
Jun 5th, 2012, 07:40 PM
Now against Bouchard in both singles and doubles tomorrow :lol:

I have a feeling she will be beaten in both. :unsure:
Please, Anett, surprise me!

TimeyWimey
Jun 5th, 2012, 09:48 PM
Now against Bouchard in both singles and doubles tomorrow :lol:

:lol:

chingching
Jun 6th, 2012, 07:33 AM
Anett can win singles if she plays to her potential
Mertens almost got a set so I am sure Anett can play well, and in general she plays well against good players as except for her matches last year against Khromacheva and her fed cup matches, she hasn't been smashed by anyone before

Doubles though: :wavey:

muusa
Jun 6th, 2012, 11:55 AM
Great win over Bouchard! :drool: I really did not expect it. So happy now! Seems like her confidence has come back. Now please beat Kiick as well :p

chingching
Jun 6th, 2012, 12:22 PM
A Gs For Anett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TimeyWimey
Jun 6th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Genie :hug: go for the final Anett :drive:

TimeyWimey
Jun 6th, 2012, 04:40 PM
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/252669_318872331528240_149540105128131_718627_2539 63796_n.jpg

Dan_Doe
Jun 6th, 2012, 04:44 PM
I came here to post that, but you were first :lol:
Great photo :D
I'm glad Anett won, even though I like Genie really much, but Anett needs this tournament more than Genie.

Tennisfan06
Jun 6th, 2012, 08:23 PM
Getting more confident by each round, Allie will be very tough, especially on clay. But hopefully she won't stop here :)

chingching
Jun 6th, 2012, 09:18 PM
Anett and Ipek put in a nice performance in doubles, only losing 6-4 6-4, a very nice result against the top seed. I hope she and Ipek are now friends :)
Anett is first on court 3, so I will miss the beginning :sobbing:
It sucks they don't stream juniors :sad:

BTW, the winner of Anett/Annika I think should win the tournament :)

muusa
Jun 7th, 2012, 10:16 AM
:woohoo:
Anett seems to be on fire now! First GS semi for her!

muusa
Jun 7th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Beck should be beatable. In Copenhagen Anett took a set off her. Then again she got bagelled by her as well, but also she had a long and tough match on the previous day. It will be tough, that's sure, but not impossible.

WhoAmI?
Jun 7th, 2012, 10:55 AM
Amazing feat!

Slowly but surely deeper and deeper to the tournament:dance:


Besides maybe a slight advantage, as there's play suspended. So Beck-Scholl waste even more energy and nerves. At the same time Anett can take it easier:)

chingching
Jun 7th, 2012, 11:12 AM
Also Anett is better on clay then on Indoor Hard, and Beck is the opposite
And Anett really should have won vs Annika in Copenhagen
Anett for the title :woohoo:
She would go up to Number 2 in the rankings I think :eek:
Everyone is so close together :lol:

WhoAmI?
Jun 7th, 2012, 11:45 AM
I was looking at the rankings, she'll add 40 points with the SF. Does it take her back to the top 10?:unsure:

TimeyWimey
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:35 PM
semifinals :bounce: well done!

chingching
Jun 8th, 2012, 06:07 AM
IMO, the winner of Anett and Annika will win the tournament
luckily Anett got her math doe quickly so she gets a headstart along with her claycourt advantage and her talent at gaining revenge in the important matches. I think Anett has a chant to do very well t Wimbledon due o her grey return, serve and clean powerful groundstrokes :)

muusa
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:11 AM
I was looking at the rankings, she'll add 40 points with the SF. Does it take her back to the top 10?:unsure:

I think she'd just miss out and be 11th. But let's hope this won't be the case and she'll get some more points. :p
I'm getting nervous already about today's match, at first I had no expectations after those sloppy first rounds, but now it seems this could really be her big chance. As she herself said, her game has been getting better every match and she feels really good.

Dan_Doe
Jun 8th, 2012, 08:12 AM
If she defeated Kiick in such a manner, Anett is definitely capable of beating Beck, too. Plus, she really enjoys being the underdog :D

chingching
Jun 8th, 2012, 08:45 AM
As I said, if I don't believe in Anett, then she can't win.
I still feel bad for assuming she'd lose in Fed Cup and she won :sad:
But I thought she could work her way into the tournament and she has
The winner would be the favourite for the final :)

TimeyWimey
Jun 8th, 2012, 11:19 AM
she's down a set

chingching
Jun 8th, 2012, 11:51 AM
Anett lost 6-3 6-3
Annika is a good player though
I think she could have won if she didn't have those double fault problems (5 of Annika's 6 breaks came on Anett double faults) and if she started playing better earlier but this is still a great result :)
I hope she can play better at Wimbledon as it is a weaker tournament and her game could be very effective on grass and I liked how she played vs Garcia last year 3rd round :)

BlueTrees
Jun 8th, 2012, 11:52 AM
Anett lost 6-3 6-3. :( Still a good tournament after almost losing in the first round.

muusa
Jun 8th, 2012, 11:56 AM
Sadly Anett lost. Too much trouble holding her own service games.
Yes, that's the way to go - first get my low expectations up high and then crush them! :D

Also I'm a bit :fiery: about Annika (as chingching also mentioned in the junior RG thread) - you are top 160 and 18 years old, you can play as many tournaments you want - why do you have to come to the kids playground to steal their candies? For example Anett cannot play these tournaments being 18 because of her birthdate. So unfair.

Of course, with that kind of game Anett would have most likely lost to weaker opponents as well.

chingching
Jun 8th, 2012, 12:00 PM
Sadly Anett lost. Too much trouble holding her own service games.
Yes, that's the way to go - first get my low expectations up high and then crush them! :D

Also I'm a bit :fiery: about Annika (as chingching also mentioned in the junior RG thread) - you are top 160 and 18 years old, you can play as many tournaments you want - why do you have to come to the kids playground to steal their candies? For example Anett cannot play these tournaments being 18 because of her birthdate. So unfair.

Of course, with that kind of game Anett would have most likely lost to weaker opponents as well.

What do you mean that she can't play tournaments because her birthday is at the end of the year???
Can't she play until she is 19???
But our Anett will be too good by then :lol: (I didn't see Annika winning the Orange Bowl at 15 ;))

BTW, Anett will now be top 8 seed for Wimbledon :cheer:

I think Anett should play G2 Gerry Weber for some Grass practice, plus if she wins she will get 100 points + doubles :)
And the tournament is not going to be weak (Kulichkova is playing) as it's the only grass tournament besides the G1, so not only will it not be a waste of her time but it's also not whoring ;). I think it could be good for her, and we get to see her on livescores :)

muusa
Jun 8th, 2012, 12:08 PM
Yes, at the end of this year the '94s are kicked out of the rankings. At the end of the next year the '95s are kicked out so the next year will be Anett's last in juniors.

chingching
Jun 8th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Yes, at the end of this year the '94s are kicked out of the rankings. At the end of the next year the '95s are kicked out so the next year will be Anett's last in juniors.

That's so unfair!!!!! It should be until she is 19!!!! So if you are born on January 1 compared to someone born on 31 December you get to play Juniors a whole year more than them!!! That's soooo unfair!!!
If only her mother had given birth 8 days later!!! :lol:

But I am not sure if she will even need juniors then :shrug:
IMO, she will be top 100 by her 19th birthday :)

muusa
Jun 8th, 2012, 01:27 PM
I think Anett should play G2 Gerry Weber for some Grass practice, plus if she wins she will get 100 points + doubles :)
And the tournament is not going to be weak (Kulichkova is playing) as it's the only grass tournament besides the G1, so not only will it not be a waste of her time but it's also not whoring ;). I think it could be good for her, and we get to see her on livescores :)

I guess Anett heads back home now and tries to take the exams she missed. :) After that she'll play Roehampton and Wimbledon.

chingching
Jun 10th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Will Anett play European championships this year in Klosters???
If she won she could get a nice 180 points and the championships have a very good reputation

Losing Streak
Jun 12th, 2012, 05:43 PM
Some pics of Anett at RG (credits to Bernard Pacalin)

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601127_10151192533473569_2111454046_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/554814_10151192533783569_562402411_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/540662_10151192533998569_667574681_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/601797_10151192534198569_2128781963_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/538423_10151192534693569_1369375874_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543615_10151192535228569_1493832357_n.jpg

muusa
Jun 12th, 2012, 08:11 PM
Great pics, thanks! I was just searching some photos from junior RG the other day but did not find much..

chingching
Jun 13th, 2012, 02:01 AM
Really nice pics :)
Although that colour makes Anett look very slavic when in fact normally she is more Finnish looking

Here is a video of Annika playing against Anastasia Pivovarova in Stuttgart this year. I am not surprised that Anett lost as Annika is an amazing player. She is very agressive and hits great depth but hits no unforced errors whatsoever. Anett should not be sad about losing to such a good player :)
Here is the video:
LZzMJRJw8dU

chingching
Jun 13th, 2012, 01:55 PM
I wish Anett would take her facebook page more seriously, like Donna Vekic does :(

Dan_Doe
Jun 13th, 2012, 02:30 PM
I wish Anett would take her facebook page more seriously, like Donna Vekic does :(

Yeah, facebook (and a few other social sites) is the only way to keep in touch with the fans. Players should use it. Donna is posting almost everyday :lol: Especially in the days she plays. And not only results and comments, but also photos or videos with her. It'd be nice to see other juniors do the same. Actually, is there any other junior with an active facebook page? :lol:

chingching
Jun 13th, 2012, 02:36 PM
Yeah, facebook (and a few other social sites) is the only way to keep in touch with the fans. Players should use it. Donna is posting almost everyday :lol: Especially in the days she plays. And not only results and comments, but also photos or videos with her. It'd be nice to see other juniors do the same. Actually, is there any other junior with an active facebook page? :lol:

Not really. Irina Khromacheva had a active website for a while, and Eugenie had a semi-active one. Donna makes a real effort which I like. It's one of the main reasons I like her. Also, if you have more facebook fans, then you are more likely to get sponsorships as you can say that so and so number of people follow me, meaning that the product has a larger audience. I like Donna's videos as well, as when Anett actually does update her facebook page, it's only with writing :)

Dan_Doe
Jun 13th, 2012, 02:57 PM
Not really. Irina Khromacheva had a active website for a while, and Eugenie had a semi-active one. Donna makes a real effort which I like. It's one of the main reasons I like her. Also, if you have more facebook fans, then you are more likely to get sponsorships as you can say that so and so number of people follow me, meaning that the product has a larger audience. I like Donna's videos as well, as when Anett actually does update her facebook page, it's only with writing :)

Donna just made another post, a few minutes ago: "I've been spending a relaxing afternoon in Padova following this morning's practice. It's a lovely place that's rich in culture but also great for shopping... Tomorrow I play my second round match vs Anna-Lena Friedsam from Germany who is currently ranked 332 in the world." And added a photo with herself :lol: It's not such a great effort to write 2 sentences about your activities and the opponents you're facing. How much that takes, 2 minutes? I don't know if a player can attract sponsors via facebook :lol:, but it's definitely a good and easy way to get a bigger fanbase earlier in his/her career. And, after all, this way you prove your fans that you actually give a damn about them.

muusa
Jun 13th, 2012, 07:54 PM
A video interview:

http://sport.err.ee/tennis/b1e3ba8d-2074-47e3-ae96-8d77bb8146e0

Anett says she is satisfied with the RG result - she made one round further than the year before. After one week of exams she will go to UK to train and prepare for Wimbledon. When asked about the goals her coach says: the highest.

chingching
Jun 14th, 2012, 10:55 AM
Donna just made another post, a few minutes ago: "I've been spending a relaxing afternoon in Padova following this morning's practice. It's a lovely place that's rich in culture but also great for shopping... Tomorrow I play my second round match vs Anna-Lena Friedsam from Germany who is currently ranked 332 in the world." And added a photo with herself :lol: It's not such a great effort to write 2 sentences about your activities and the opponents you're facing. How much that takes, 2 minutes? I don't know if a player can attract sponsors via facebook :lol:, but it's definitely a good and easy way to get a bigger fanbase earlier in his/her career. And, after all, this way you prove your fans that you actually give a damn about them.

It can attract sponsors as the sponsors realise that you have a big fanbase and that many people follow you. It also makes the fans like the player more IMO :)

And I am verrrryyy interested about Anett's life ;) :lol:

I was thinking that instead of Bastad Anett could play 50K Donetsk. It is always a very weak tournament and she could win it IMO (didn't Stanciute win it last year???)
If she did, she would collect 70 Points, putting her ranking in the Top 310 :eek:

chingching
Jun 15th, 2012, 02:18 AM
Anett still hasn't entered any pro tournaments :mad:
Maybe she's waiting for Bastad???

muusa
Jun 15th, 2012, 04:56 AM
Anett still hasn't entered any pro tournaments :mad:
Maybe she's waiting for Bastad???

Junior Wimbledon ends on the 8th of July. No entry lists for the ITF tournaments are out for the following week. Also I'd assume she takes at least a week off after Wimbledon after playing 2 weeks in a row.

chingching
Jun 15th, 2012, 07:25 AM
Junior Wimbledon ends on the 8th of July. No entry lists for the ITF tournaments are out for the following week. Also I'd assume she takes at least a week off after Wimbledon after playing 2 weeks in a row.

Got my weeks mixed up :facepalm:
She can't play that week :lol:
SO she will probably take a week off and play Bastad. I really hope she plays Baku as the field will be sooooo weak as not only will no on want to play but many can't because of Olympics. Those who want to play tournaments during Olympics will play in America :)

IMO, she could make Quarters or Semis, no joke, with a good draw and if she adjusts to the hardcourts from the clay :)

BTW, why did no one mention Anett's first 10K win in this thread??? :lol:

chingching
Jun 18th, 2012, 01:36 PM
Some pics from Anett's Facebook:
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/369728_1033504304_1307535493_n.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/598627_3565950980795_1427018603_n.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/15iyjd.jpg

She looks really nice :kiss:

muusa
Jun 19th, 2012, 04:57 AM
Nice pics. Looks like she graduated, good girl! But...where is the diploma? :oh:

chingching
Jun 19th, 2012, 05:48 AM
Anett looks much shorter there but they are nice

I swear I have heard the name Audentes before :confused:

Audentes is one of Tere's tennis halls :)

BTW, Anett apparently is not entered into Bastad :sad:
I hope she tries some WTA's but she is running out of time :scared:
Still, it's good she has 7 tournaments left :)
But she has to get some points before Tampere and Savitaipale come off

This is the image for BlueTrees. I am sure Meelis can find the actual source for you :)
http://i50.tinypic.com/1418mqe.jpg

Could Anett get a WC to US Open qualies because she won Orange Bowl???

WhoAmI?
Jun 21st, 2012, 05:08 PM
I think USA has too many their own players to spread the wild cards as Wimbledon does.

chingching
Jun 22nd, 2012, 05:50 AM
I think USA has too many their own players to spread the wild cards as Wimbledon does.

That's a shame :sad:
She could do really well, even qualify given the players who qualified at Wimbledon

chingching
Jun 24th, 2012, 03:39 AM
This is Anett's draw for Roehampton :)

(1)Taylor Townsend (USA) v Elke Lemmens (BEL)
Ipek Soylu (TUR) v Ching-Wen Hsu (TPE)
(Q)Nigina Abduraimova (UZB) v (wc)Harriet Dart (GBR)
(15)Laura Pigossi (BRA) v Marcela Zacarias (MEX)

(10)Francoise Abanda (CAN) v Maria Constanza de las Mercedes Vega (ARG)
(Q)Ayaka Okuno (JPN) v Olga Doroshina (RUS)
Jennifer Brady (USA) v (LL)Storm Sanders (AUS)
(6)Anett Kontaveit (EST) v (wc)Sarah Beth Askew (GBR)

(3)Katerina Siniakova (CZE) v Montserrat Gonzalez (PAR)
Zuzanna Maciejewska (POL) v (Q)Camilla Rosatello (ITA)
(wc)Georgina Sellyn (GBR) v (Q)Zarah Razafimahatratra (MAD)
(13)Ilka Csoregi (ROU) v Mayar Sherif (EGY)

(9)Daria Gavrilova (RUS) v (Q)Yuriko Miyazaki (JPN)
(wc)Eden Silva (GBR) v Viktoriya Lushkova (UKR)
Adrijana Lekaj (CRO) v Carol Zhao (CAN)
(5)Chalena Scholl (USA) v (Q)Klaartje Liebens (BEL)

(7)Indy de Vroome (NED) v (LL)Danielle Konotoptseva (GBR)
Jelena Ostapenko (LAT) v Varvara Flink (RUS)
Rebecca Peterson (SWE) v (wc)Lana Rush (GBR)
(12)Belinda Bencic (SUI) v Iva Mekovec (CRO)

(16)Sabina Sharipova (UZB) v (wc)Katie Boulter (GBR)
Victoria Bosio (ARG) v Oleksandra Korashvili (UKR)
Kathinka von Deichmann (LIE) v Erin Routliffe (CAN)
(4)Sachia Vickery (USA) v Aldila Sutjiadi (INA)

(8)Alexandra Kiick (USA) v Elena Maltseva (RUS)
(wc)Katy Dunne (GBR) v (LL)Hikari Yamamoto (JPN)
Emily Fanning (NZL) v Valeria Patiuk (ISR)
(11)Maria Ines Deheza (BOL) v Petra Uberalova (SVK)

(14)Beatriz Haddad Maia (BRA) v Elise Mertens (BEL)
Ioana Loredana Rosca (ROU) v Kyle McPhillips (USA)
(wc)Pippa Horn (GBR) v (Q)Naiktha Bains (AUS)
(2)Eugenie Bouchard (CAN) v Barbora Krejcikova (CZE)

Quite a nice draw actually, as she should easily defend her 3rd round points. The winner of Her/Abanda and Townseond will make the final

I think she will be better against Taylor on grass than on hard and I think she has a genuine shot at the title :)

TimeyWimey
Jun 24th, 2012, 04:35 AM
quarterfinal looks on the horizon

Meelis
Jun 24th, 2012, 08:44 AM
One of the easiest sections of the draw for sure.

muusa
Jun 24th, 2012, 05:20 PM
(6)Anett Kontaveit (EST) d. (wc)Sarah Beth Askew (GBR) 64 62

She needs to finally beat Townsend. :o

I wouldn't bet my money on Townsend reaching that far actually but yeah, should that happen, it would be quite lame to be beaten 3rd time in a row.

chingching
Jun 24th, 2012, 09:49 PM
Next she has Storm Sanders
A 3rd Round is right in front of her :)

BTW, thanks to Dos Santos, here is Anett's full match against MJMS in Fed Cup:
http://files.mail.ru/SERU9Q

muusa
Jun 25th, 2012, 07:36 PM
(LL)Storm Sanders (AUS) d. (6)Anett Kontaveit (EST) 26 62 61 :weirdo:

TimeyWimey
Jun 25th, 2012, 08:46 PM
:help:

chingching
Jun 26th, 2012, 08:42 AM
:facepalm:
Hopefully Anett does another Roland Garros :)

muusa
Jun 26th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Trofeo Bonfiglio was explainable by lack of practicing due to the exams as she mentioned herself. Then it looked like she really got it going in RG and was ready for some good runs in Roehampton and Wimbledon. But now after this I really don't know what to expect anymore. :confused:

chingching
Jun 26th, 2012, 12:19 PM
Trofeo Bonfiglio was explainable by lack of practicing due to the exams as she mentioned herself. Then it looked like she really got it going in RG and was ready for some good runs in Roehampton and Wimbledon. But now after this I really don't know what to expect anymore. :confused:

Well she almost lost first round in RG, and clay is her preferred surface, and sanders is left handed at not that bad a player (her match vs Khromacheva is in the junior video thread). I think if Anett gets another kind draw a QF or SF is not out of the question with perhaps some better doubles results. I would like her to be top 10 without needing to play Orange Bowl, so if she can do well in European Championships (if she plays, entries come out tonight) and US Open + Canada Open along with Wimbledon, I think that's doable. In the long run though, these results don't matter that much

chingching
Jun 28th, 2012, 02:38 AM
Why isn't entry list for GB1 Klosters out yet???
It was supposed to be out 2 days ago :mad:

muusa
Jun 28th, 2012, 01:13 PM
Why isn't entry list for GB1 Klosters out yet???
It was supposed to be out 2 days ago :mad:

Next Tuesday.

chingching
Jun 28th, 2012, 02:18 PM
Next Tuesday.

Not according to the factsheet. It says it was going to be released Tuesday 2 days ago
BTW, here is a photo of Anett in Roehampton. She looks like a ghost in white. If only it wasn't Wimbledon season, and she could wear a more appropriate colour that made her look more tanned. Even last years was better. Look:
http://www.lta.org.uk/MediaVault/Tournaments/AEGON-Junior-International/Roehampton-ITF-2012/Anett%20KONTAVEIT%209499.jpg
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+Championships+Wimbledon+2011+4svow pCjvfyl.jpg

She obviously looks better in the darker colours :)

BTW, she still hasn't entered any challengers. This weeks list came out and she wasn't on any. I am hoping she is on European Championships list at least, so she can get some matchplay :)

muusa
Jun 29th, 2012, 08:50 PM
Faces Haddad Maia in the first round of Wimbledon :unsure:

Tennisfan06
Jun 29th, 2012, 09:12 PM
Plays on Saturday. We never know what to expect from her, but hopefully she manages to win. GL :)

chingching
Jun 30th, 2012, 01:12 AM
Faces Haddad Maia in the first round of Wimbledon :unsure:

I don't think its too worrying :shrug:
Haddad Maia hasn't really done anything stellar in the past
Anett has an awkward section so if she gets past Haddad Maia and Vickery, I pick her for the Semis or even the Finals

BTW, her match may be streamed :cheer:

muusa
Jun 30th, 2012, 01:45 PM
Anett won 4-6 6-3 6-1
Next up Elise Mertens.

chingching
Jun 30th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Anett won 4-6 6-3 6-1 :cheer:
She only won 3 points on return in the first but returned and in general played really well from 1-1 in the second set
She served quite well throughout the whole match and except for the second set choke (she won it on her 9th set point :facepalm:) which included leading 0-40 at 5-2, she basically won 11 games in a row with one or two detours
A decent start :)

Next she has Elise Mertens from Belgium who defeated Varvara Flink 6-4 6-3
I would put Anett as the favourite to meet Sachia Vickery in the last 16, where I would like her to get US Open revenge ;)

The doubles draw hasn't been released yet but I expect her to be in the top 4 seeds with Indy de Vroome :)

Mertens main results have been a Runner Up at the Mediterranee Avenir G1 (losing to Indy de Vroome) and winning the SFAX G2 in Tunisia :)

No real problems for Anett IMO as Mertens lost to Haddad Maia 6-2 6-3 last week and 6-3 6-2 to Varvara Flink the week before, even though she beat Flink this week

Dan_Doe
Jun 30th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Much tougher than expected. Bia is basically a claycourter. She lost to Zarazua on grass two weeks ago :help: I've expected Anett to win it in two routine sets.
Mertens should be easy as well, but who knows...

Tennisfan06
Jun 30th, 2012, 08:57 PM
Phew, was worried after the first set but I knew she still can win this match. Hopefully she gets more wins :)

BTW, this result reminded me something from this year's AO
Bia Maia already won professional tournaments, with just 15 years and 6'1 tall. She will eat her alive

:lol:

chingching
Jun 30th, 2012, 09:20 PM
Phew, was worried after the first set but I knew she still can win this match. Hopefully she gets more wins :)

BTW, this result reminded me something from this year's AO


:lol:

IKR!!!! That was so funny :lol:
Anett is playing doubles with Indy de Vroome :cheer: :inlove:
I love Indy so this is one of my favourite combos
Also Dutch/Estonian and Indy is good on grass despite her loss to Belinda last week
This is their draw :)
(1)Bouchard/Townsend (CAN/USA) v Bosio/Vega (ARG/ARG)
Sherif/Sutjiadi (EGY/INA) v Lushkova/Uberalova (UKR/SVK)
Csoregi/Ostapenko (ROU/LAT) v (wc)Askew/Dunne (GBR/GBR)
(6)Danilina/Haddad Maia (KAZ/BRA) v Haas/Sharipova (AUT/UZB)

(4)Abanda/Vickery (CAN/USA) v Lekaj/Sanders (CRO/AUS)
Flink/Lottner (RUS/GER) v (wc)Rush/Sellyn (GBR/GBR)
Lemmens/Mertens (BEL/BEL) v Kasatkina/Komardina (RUS/RUS)
(8)Gonzalez/Scholl (PAR/USA) v Brady/McPhillips (USA/USA)

(7)Bencic/Konjuh (SUI/CRO) v (wc)Asghar/Silva (GBR/GBR)
Fanning/Korashvili (NZL/UKR) v Sasnovich/Vekic (BLR/CRO)
Kiick/Zhao (USA/CAN) v Routliffe/Salnikova (CAN/RUS)
(3)Deheza/Kulichkova (BOL/RUS) v Harrison/Makarova (USA/USA)

(5)De Vroome/Kontaveit (NED/EST) v Allgurin/Peterson (SWE/SWE)
Krejcikova/Rosca (CZE/ROU) v Maciejewska/Rosatello (POL/ITA)
(wc)Dart/Horn (GBR/GBR) v Doroshina/Siniakova (RUS/CZE)
(2)Gavrilova/Svitolina (RUS/UKR) v Pigossi/Zacarias (BRA/MEX)

No problems IMO until Gavrilova/Svitolina but I sense that they won't be a good combo for some reason :shrug:

Dan_Doe
Jun 30th, 2012, 09:51 PM
I wouldn't take the Allgurin/Peterson combo as an easy opponent. Their single results are so-so, but they're both Swedish and having ~ the same age, so I guess they know each other very well.
I see Anett and Indy as the favourites, though.

chingching
Jul 1st, 2012, 07:00 AM
I wouldn't take the Allgurin/Peterson combo as an easy opponent. Their single results are so-so, but they're both Swedish and having ~ the same age, so I guess they know each other very well.
I see Anett and Indy as the favourites, though.

Perhaps :)
I had heard from somewhere though that Ellen had been isolated by the Swedish Tennis Association as she and her family had refused coaching from them
Anyway, if Anett/Indy can get past them then a QF is almost inevitable :)

chingching
Jul 3rd, 2012, 05:29 AM
Anett is playing singles tomorrow as the 4th match on Court 11 against Elise Mertens :)
I may not be able to very emotionally follow livescores but I will try now that my tournament is over :)
Sadly she is not playing doubles as they are behind and haven't been able to fit it in the schedule. She may have to play 3 matches tomorrow or the day after :scared:

chingching
Jul 3rd, 2012, 11:18 AM
When playing this week, Anett needs to remember that she beat Paszek in straight sets earlier this year. :p

I know :haha:
It's sooo funny whenever I think of it
Anett has beaten a Premier Titlist and 2 time GS QF :lol:

Hopefully it will be her one day :)

muusa
Jul 3rd, 2012, 11:24 AM
Anett is playing singles tomorrow as the 4th match on Court 11 against Elise Mertens :)
I may not be able to very emotionally follow livescores but I will try now that my tournament is over :)
Sadly she is not playing doubles as they are behind and haven't been able to fit it in the schedule. She may have to play 3 matches tomorrow or the day after :scared:

Actually even 5th match, there are 4 boys' matches before that. I really hope there won't be any rain delays, otherwise it will be postponed to the next day most likely.

Great, just as I was typing they suspended the matches :rolleyes:

WhoAmI?
Jul 3rd, 2012, 09:36 PM
She's now scheduled to play 3 matches on Wednesday. 1st on court 4 against Mertens, and the winner plays 3rd match on the same court against winner of Vickery/Haas. And later, not before 3PM there's the doubles 1st round match, court TBA.

I don't know what's the forecast, but hopefully she'll get to at least finish the 2nd round match:shrug:

TimeyWimey
Jul 3rd, 2012, 09:57 PM
tomorrow will be another rainy day for sure :help:

chingching
Jul 4th, 2012, 02:27 AM
At least her 2 singles matches are before doubles and her opponents have to play 2 matches as well, presumably closer than her meeting with Mertens.
Sadly, the entry list to the European Championships is still not out, being a week late. I hope she's on it :scared:
Also, she is still on no entry lists for WTA's or higehr level challengers so I hope she will play one in the week released on Thursday :)

Dan_Doe
Jul 4th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Anett is already a break down against Mertens. I have a deja-vous feeling :spit:
She'll manage to win it eventually, but it's a shame she has to struggle so much with weaker opponents.

WhoAmI?
Jul 4th, 2012, 12:10 PM
Anett def. Mertens 64 63 :)

Served for it at 5*-1, but within the next 4 games she decided to improve:rolleyes: her 2nd set w/ue stats from 11/1 to 14/7. Anyway, positive stats, and also many net approaches. Well done:)

Now one match in between, and she'll face Vickery who spent a little less time on court today than Anett.

muusa
Jul 4th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Won 64 63 over Mertens. Next up Vickery who got a convincing win over Haas.

chingching
Jul 4th, 2012, 12:33 PM
Sorry that I went away for live updates. Family thing :)
I should be here for her next 2 matches :)
Anyway, she defended her points from last year :cheer:
Now a QF is very close :yeah:
A SF is possible with a match against Konjuh, Korashvili, Danilina or Gonzalez, all awkward opponents on the surface but doable. I expect Gonzalez to beat Danilina given it's grass and then Konjuh to beat Korashvili, before Montserrat beating Ana despite Ana winning their previous meetings simply due to the surface

BTW, Hopefully Anett's 1000th post is her winning Wimbledon Juniors ;)

chingching
Jul 4th, 2012, 01:46 PM
Anett is going on now :)
Luckily there has been no rain so far :worship:

BTW, Anett's stats were actually really good for her :eek:
+16 Winner/EU Ratio :bowdown: and only 2 Doubles + 1 Ace :bounce:

Also, Vickery's stats were quite disappointing with a -8 (Haas's stast were a -25 :spit:, and on grass :facepalm:)

Tennisfan06
Jul 4th, 2012, 03:14 PM
Beat Vickery 76(6) 64 Great way to finish the match, 4 straight games :drool:

Make it 3/3 today later :cheer: and good luck in the next round!

muusa
Jul 4th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Nice win! Hopefully it won't be her last here. Next up Gonzalez or Konjuh. I doubt Anett has played either of them..

chingching
Jul 4th, 2012, 03:20 PM
Anett won 7-6(6) 6-4
To sum up the match, there was a good end and a bad end
Players were only winning from one end until Anett had 40-0 to hold at the bad end. She of course choked that away and got broken before Vickery started to step up. Anett was down 0-40 at 4-5 but managed to save all the set points ad hold. She ended up getting it to a Tiebreak where she led 6-3. It then got back to 6-6 before the scoreboard said that Vickery led 7-6. It was obviously an error because I checked again ans it said that Anett led 7-6 :lol: I nearly had a heart attack given how much she's choked already. Anyway, she then won that point to win the first set :cheer:

The second began with Anett getting broken and playing from a break down the whole set, saving Break Points at 15-40 0-2 from going down a Double Break. She finally made inroads on Sachia's serve (Sachia was holding at 0 and 15 almost every game of the match and the ones where she was broken she normally led by these scorelines first) at 4-3 down. Anett then held before breaking to win. She broke so quickly I missed it :sad: :lol:

Anyway, it's great for Anett to finally be having success at a GA that is not on clay :lol:
I see a semi :cheer:
And given that she will face one of Bouchard (who is becoming Anett's bitch :lol:), Abdduraimova, Soylu or Lottner, this IMO is probably going to be her best chance ever to make a GS Final :cheer:

Good Luck in Doubles Anett!!! :cheer:
If it starts before 2 I think I'll follow as I have the day off tomorrow (Today :oh:)

WhoAmI?
Jul 4th, 2012, 03:46 PM
Well done, Anett:bowdown: This could easily have been a 2 set win for Vickery.

As for doubles.. I don't see much happening for Indy/Anett. Indy is still playing her second singles match where she is down a set and a break currently, her first match was a long one, she's not the freshest player out there. Anett also played two matches, while Allgurin played one match, and Peterson none.

chingching
Jul 4th, 2012, 04:41 PM
Anett :yeah:



:fiery: :sad:

Sorry :)
But it's true :D
Anyway, here ia a photo of Anett from Roland Garros :)
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anett+Kontaveit+2012+French+Open+Day+Eleven+tHLWjR ml16Hl.jpg
I was thinking of creating an Anett photo thread???
We have enough already and it means we wouldn't have to worry about clogging up her discussion thread with photos :shrug:
Anyway, sadly I think that Indy will let Anett down once again in doubles, by no fault of her own :sad:
First Asutralian Open: Walkover due to Indy's injury
Then French Open: She has to play with Soylu which turned out okay because Indy was once again injured
Then: Indy plays a 7-5 in the third match followed by a match currently in the third at 3-0 down double break implying tiredness, where she is likely to have played 5 hours going into their doubles against awkward opponents
Lets hope Anett gets some points in the singles hey :)

muusa
Jul 4th, 2012, 04:58 PM
So Konjuh it is in QF.


And given that she will face one of Bouchard (who is becoming Anett's bitch :lol), Abdduraimova, Soylu or Lottner, this IMO is probably going to be her best chance ever to make a GS Final :cheer:


You don't consider Konjuh as a threat in QF? She seems to be damn good for a 14-year-old.

muusa
Jul 4th, 2012, 05:11 PM
I don't think they will play doubles today, as Indy's match has just only finished and as Meelis said in Wimbledon thread they need to give her 1.5 hours rest at least. It would be too late to play then I guess.

chingching
Jul 4th, 2012, 05:28 PM
So Konjuh it is in QF.



You don't consider Konjuh as a threat in QF? She seems to be damn good for a 14-year-old.

You said it yourself. Damn good FOR A 14 YEAR OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She actually isn't that good IMO
Look at her wins
She has no really good ones
Basically she has beaten Montserrat Gonzalez and a few of the better 97/96 girls
I mean, Anett has played 3 good tournaments all season and she is ranked higher. That says something IMO
Ana may be tough, but I would be surprised if Anett lost a set
But if Anett is off and Ana plays well then something may occur
I just don't see Ana Konjuh in a GS SF, that's all. But I do see Anett there :shrug:
Thank god doubles is off. I get to go to sleep :cheer:

WhoAmI?
Jul 4th, 2012, 05:50 PM
You said it yourself. Damn good FOR A 14 YEAR OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She actually isn't that good IMO
Look at her wins
She has no really good ones
Basically she has beaten Montserrat Gonzalez and a few of the better 97/96 girls
I mean, Anett has played 3 good tournaments all season and she is ranked higher. That says something IMO
Ana may be tough, but I would be surprised if Anett lost a set
But if Anett is off and Ana plays well then something may occur
I just don't see Ana Konjuh in a GS SF, that's all. But I do see Anett there :shrug:
Thank god doubles is off. I get to go to sleep :cheer:

Well, Anett could be her first good win (if you'd consider a win over Anett a good win).
Anett is currently ranked higher, but mainly because of last year's points.
Konjuh has won the last 3 tournaments she entered (g2, g1, g1), quite impressive:eek: Though she didn't play RG (why?).
Anyway, I of course hope that Anett comes out on top.

Meelis
Jul 4th, 2012, 06:15 PM
Though she didn't play RG (why?)

She was too low ranked to make a cut.

Dan_Doe
Jul 4th, 2012, 06:54 PM
Well, Anett could be her first good win (if you'd consider a win over Anett a good win).
Anett is currently ranked higher, but mainly because of last year's points.
Konjuh has won the last 3 tournaments she entered (g2, g1, g1), quite impressive:eek: Though she didn't play RG (why?).
Anyway, I of course hope that Anett comes out on top.

I guess Ana's win over Ash Barty wasn't worthy to be mentioned by chingching :oh: I know, I know, Ash abandoned at 6-3 2-5, but she didn't play better than Ana in that match.
And remember Adrijana Lekaj? Well, Adrijana defeated Anett at Trofeo Bonfiglio 5-7 6-3 6-0. Also, Adrijana lost this year 0-6 4-6 and 2-6 2-6 to Konjuh. In ya' face, chingching :devil: :p
Squashes over Gonzalez or Csoregi on clay are also worth mentioning.

I still think Anett is going to win easily, because she's experienced and plays very well on grass, while Ana's at her first tournament on grass. But anything can happen. Ana is able to beat her. And I want that to happen :oh:

I'd say Anett is the main favourite for the whole thing now, but, again, anything can happen.

Dan_Doe
Jul 4th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Anett and Indy started their match. They're 2-3 in the first set, no breaks attached.

muusa
Jul 4th, 2012, 07:32 PM
I can't believe they let them play today, Indy must be exhausted after all this :o
However, they just won the first set 64 :)

WhoAmI?
Jul 4th, 2012, 08:17 PM
Play suspended at 64 36

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 02:30 AM
I guess Ana's win over Ash Barty wasn't worthy to be mentioned by chingching :oh: I know, I know, Ash abandoned at 6-3 2-5, but she didn't play better than Ana in that match.
And remember Adrijana Lekaj? Well, Adrijana defeated Anett at Trofeo Bonfiglio 5-7 6-3 6-0. Also, Adrijana lost this year 0-6 4-6 and 2-6 2-6 to Konjuh. In ya' face, chingching :devil: :p
Squashes over Gonzalez or Csoregi on clay are also worth mentioning.

I still think Anett is going to win easily, because she's experienced and plays very well on grass, while Ana's at her first tournament on grass. But anything can happen. Ana is able to beat her. And I want that to happen :oh:

I'd say Anett is the main favourite for the whole thing now, but, again, anything can happen.

I basically agree with your second paragraph, but Ana still hasn;t beaten any big players. I she has beaten players who have beaten Anett, but no wins over Putintseva, Vickery, Bouchard, Barty (:oh:), Sharipova etc. Sure, Ana beat Adrijana quite comfortably but everyone has bad days. This was straighta after Ana barely beating Zimmerman and her early losses on the Pro Circuit, along with her Bagel stage :lol:

Also, squashes over Gonzalez and Csoregi on clay aren't that impressive because look at their rankings and who they have beaten. And squashes over Allie Kiick and Putintseva on clay are also impressive ;)

I am not saying Ana is a bad player, because that is completely untrue and I like her. But IMO, she is overhyped and overranked :shrug:

Anett is first up on court 8 tomorrow against Ana :)
Then she has 2 doubles matches, presuming she finishes the first: The first as 3rd match on and the second as last match on :)
I think with Indy gone in the singles and Anett or Ana will win in straight sets (I don't see this being a long affair) that Anett/Indy could win both doubles matches :D

Also, Anett is back in the Top 10 :eek: as long as the Finalist and Winner aren't made up by both Konjuh, Sharipova, Lottner or Abanda :)

I am not joking that looking at Anett's draw she has a genuine shot at winning the tournament :bounce:

BTW, it says on the Estonian Womens rankings that Anett plays at EKSM as her tennis club. What club is that as I know that USTA is Tere and AOTK is Aivo's???

muusa
Jul 5th, 2012, 06:28 AM
BTW, it says on the Estonian Womens rankings that Anett plays at EKSM as her tennis club. What club is that as I know that USTA is Tere and AOTK is Aivo's???

EKSM - Evald Kree Spordimaailm
Their webpage is ancient though, it claims that the highest WTA ranking ever for Estonians is Maret Ani's 115th :tape:

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 07:06 AM
EKSM - Evald Kree Spordimaailm
Their webpage is ancient though, it claims that the highest WTA ranking ever for Estonians is Maret Ani's 115th :tape:

Does Marten own that academy???
I thought they trained at Andrei's Academy at Tere?
Where is it?
And BTW, where is Viimsi???

How sad is it that Anett's 1000th post was about Ana Konjuh not making Roland Garros :lol:

Dan_Doe
Jul 5th, 2012, 10:21 AM
I basically agree with your second paragraph, but Ana still hasn;t beaten any big players. I she has beaten players who have beaten Anett, but no wins over Putintseva, Vickery, Bouchard, Barty (:oh:), Sharipova etc. Sure, Ana beat Adrijana quite comfortably but everyone has bad days. This was straighta after Ana barely beating Zimmerman and her early losses on the Pro Circuit, along with her Bagel stage :lol:

Also, squashes over Gonzalez and Csoregi on clay aren't that impressive because look at their rankings and who they have beaten. And squashes over Allie Kiick and Putintseva on clay are also impressive ;)

I am not saying Ana is a bad player, because that is completely untrue and I like her. But IMO, she is overhyped and overranked :shrug:

Don't compare Anett with Ana in terms of whom have them defeated, because Anett has 2 long years of matches more than Ana. Ana didn't play yet against Putintseva, Vickery, Bouchard or Sharipova, so you could make a comparison. Even if she would have did, it wouldn't be relevant yet, as she's almost 3 years younger than all of them. She's 14 and a half years old, for Christ sake. Which girls of her age defeated top juniors?

I guess you wanted to name Anett when talking about almost losing to Zimmerman and losing on the pro circuit :oh:
Let's take Gonzalez, she's a 18 years old, 3 years and a half older than Ana, with a career high of #5, based on points obtained from clay tournaments. I know she's out of form, but isn't it impressive for Ana to have a 3-0 H2H against her, all in straight sets, 2 of them being on clay, including a 6-1 6-3 win?


However, as I said yesterday, Anett should get an easy win.

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 10:24 AM
Don't compare Anett with Ana in terms of whom have them defeated, because Anett has 2 long years of matches more than Ana. Ana didn't play yet against Putintseva, Vickery, Bouchard or Sharipova, so you could make a comparison. Even if she would have did, it wouldn't be relevant yet, as she's almost 3 years younger than all of them. She's 14 and a half years old, for Christ sake. Which girls of her age defeated top juniors?

I guess you wanted to name Anett when talking about almost losing to Zimmerman and losing on the pro circuit :oh:
Let's take Gonzalez, she's a 18 years old, 3 years and a half older than Ana, with a career high of #5, based on points obtained from clay tournaments. I know she's out of form, but isn't it impressive for Ana to have a 3-0 H2H against her, all in straight sets, 2 of them being on clay, including a 6-1 6-3 win?


However, as I said yesterday, Anett should get an easy win.

Her age is irrelevant to the fact if Anett is going to beat her or not :weirdo:
I never said Ana was bad for her age, I said ANETT WILL BEAT HER!!!!!!!! And Anett is ;)

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 10:33 AM
Anett wins the first set 6-0 :cheer:
Ana has a great shot at winning :rolleyes:

Dan_Doe
Jul 5th, 2012, 10:47 AM
Her age is irrelevant to the fact if Anett is going to beat her or not :weirdo:
I never said Ana was bad for her age, I said ANETT WILL BEAT HER!!!!!!!! And Anett is ;)

I think we have this disscusion already and I won't start it again. I just take as stupid to think 2 years of experience doesn't make any difference at this age. We shall find out who's better in a few years. Now it's to early to tell.
And I never said that you ever said Ana is bad for her age :facepalm:


Ana has a great shot at winning

Fuck off! :oh:

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 10:52 AM
I think we have this disscusion already and I won't start it again. I just take as stupid to think 2 years of experience doesn't make any difference at this age. We shall find out who's better in a few years. Now it's to early to tell.
And I never said that you ever said Ana is bad for her age :facepalm:




Fuck off! :oh:

Once again, implications
You kept on saying how good Ana is for her age, implying that I thought she was bad

And you wonder why I give you bad reps :lol:

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Anett won!!!!!!
Well done Anett :cheer:
She played sooo well: 4/1 Aces/DF, 5/5 BPs, 15/8 W/Ue

Ana will be good though
She gets so many free points on serve and if her first serve percentage was better, she would have won the second
GL Anett in the SF :cheer:

Now doubles :yeah:

muusa
Jul 5th, 2012, 11:11 AM
Wow, that was quick! However, the second set was more balanced, I even thought Anett might drop that when she lost her serve once. Great result of course, two semis in a row! But this time it should not stop here, I really hope so. I wonder who would be a better opponent for semis, Bouchard or Lottner? Both are dangerous no doubt, she knows Bouchard well, but has never played Lottner so I'd go with Bouchard here.

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 11:23 AM
Wow, that was quick! However, the second set was more balanced, I even thought Anett might drop that when she lost her serve once. Great result of course, two semis in a row! But this time it should not stop here, I really hope so. I wonder who would be a better opponent for semis, Bouchard or Lottner? Both are dangerous no doubt, she knows Bouchard well, but has never played Lottner so I'd go with Bouchard here.

I agree
I think Lottner would make her move too much
And Eugenie's back in the match :)
Also, Eugenie is a Mental Midget at GS SFs :)

IMO, The winner of Anett's semi will win :)
I hope it's her :D
What great it would do for Estonian tennis, and she would be top 10 :eek:

Rusher
Jul 5th, 2012, 11:54 AM
I think that it is not a very good idea to post private messages to public but hopefully Dan_Doe achieved what he/she wanted. Anyway nice win for Anett :bowdown: Is there any chance that SF or F will be braoadcasted live?

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 11:58 AM
I think that it is not a very good idea to post private messages to public but hopefully Dan_Doe achieved what he/she wanted. Anyway nice win for Anett :bowdown: Is there any chance that SF or F will be braoadcasted live?

Final will definately. Semifinal I am not so sure as only Court 1 and Centre are streamed from now on. I have never seen Anett on a livestream before :)

And I also hope he achieved what he wanted, because if he didn't then everyone would have been hurt :lol:

Anett plays Eugenie in the SF after Eugenie won 4-6 6-0 6-2
I hope that isn't a sign :scared:
Anyway, IMO this will be Anett's best chance ever for a GS :cheer:
And to think she lost to Storm Sanders 2 and 1 in the last 2 sets last week :lol:
Another Trofeo Bonfiglio incident :lol:

Here are some nice photos of Anett at wimbledon. She always looks funny when she's playing :lol:
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/photos/2012-07-05/201207051341475514807.html
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/photos/2012-07-05/201207051341474925726.html

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 01:19 PM
Anett and Indy won DOubles 6-4 3-6 10-8 :cheer:
From 3-2 up, everyone held serve until 9-8* Anett/Indy, where they broke. It made the 7-8 and 8-8 Points very tense :)

Anyway, Anett/Indy have to play Krejcikova/Rosca which given the surface and their ranks, should be easier than this one IMO :)

Dan_Doe
Jul 5th, 2012, 02:23 PM
I think that it is not a very good idea to post private messages to public but hopefully Dan_Doe achieved what he/she wanted.

Well, I found it offensive for the Romanian and Croatian community, not for me, so I wanted to let them know what chingching think about them. I know it's not cool, but we're even now, we talked and I think we got along. For the moment :oh:


And I also hope he achieved what he wanted, because if he didn't then everyone would have been hurt

I'm a dangerous man, damn ya', fear me :devil: :oh:



I don't know which girl to root for, probably Anett, as Genie should've left juniors for good some time ago, but I hope one of them will eventually win the final. Also, I guess Anett needs it more. And I see her as the favourite, considering their H2H.

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Well, I found it offensive for the Romanian and Croatian community, not for me, so I wanted to let them know what chingching think about them. I know it's not cool, but we're even now, we talked and I think we got along. For the moment :oh:




I'm a dangerous man, damn ya', fear me :devil: :oh:



I don't know which girl to root for, probably Anett, as Genie should've left juniors for good some time ago, but I hope one of them will eventually win the final. Also, I guess Anett needs it more. And I see her as the favourite, considering their H2H.
True but this is Grass, so Genie may have the upper hand there. I am still going to go with Anett as she is definately less tired and because of the H2H as you said :)

I hope Anett wins this and moves away from Juniors. A win here would keep her in the Top 10 if she got some points from doubles and European Championships :)

The Junior Ranking Points system is stuffed up though. The fact that Varvara Flink or Beatriz Haddad Maia got as many points as Anna Karolina Schmiedlova at RG or Yulia Putintseva at Australian Open is plain unfair, and the Runner Up here will suffer the same fate. If Anett wins, she will be the first person since Yulia Putintseva to hold 2 GAs :cheer:

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 02:58 PM
Don't you get 500 points for winning Grand Slams and only 250 for regular GAs? :confused:

I know. I was talking about Runners Up :)

Dan_Doe
Jul 5th, 2012, 03:10 PM
Don't you get 500 points for winning Grand Slams and only 250 for regular GAs? :confused:

Yeah, the winner gets 500, but other than that, GSs points and GAs points are similar, which is absurd. I have to agree here with chingching :oh: Most of the GAs are considerably weaker than grand slams. Same for doubles as far as I'm concerned. 360/180 points for the winners, but 120/120 for the runner-ups. 120 means 30 real points and considering you already have some points in your bag, it means being RU in a doubles GS gets you less points than winning a G5 in singles in one of your first tournaments :spit:

chingching
Jul 5th, 2012, 03:17 PM
Yeah, the winner gets 500, but other than that, GSs points and GAs points are similar, which is absurd. I have to agree here with chingching :oh: Most of the GAs are considerably weaker than grand slams. Same for doubles as far as I'm concerned. 360/180 points for the winners, but 120/120 for the runner-ups. 120 means 30 real points and considering you already have some points in your bag, it means being RU in a doubles GS gets you less points than winning a G5 in singles in one of your first tournaments :spit:

IKR!!!!!!!!!!! I also think that it is absurd that not only do they divide your doubles points by 4, but they also give you less points before they are divided. So if a GS winners doubles points are divided by 4, then they should get 125 points, but they only give you 360 to start with so you get 90 :facepalm:
You you're doubles points end up being divided by 6 :mad:
No wonder Demi Schuurs never got higher in the rankings :(

chingching
Jul 6th, 2012, 02:57 AM
Anett won doubles with Indy 1-6 :lol: 6-2 10-4 :cheer:
After going down a set and almost a break, I didn't have much hope, alhough I didn't really care. And then they won :cheer:
Next they face Svitolina/Gavrilova, a hard time given Svitolina's been to the Doubles Final at Wimbledon before and Dasha is RG Doubles Champion, but IMO it's doable if they finally play well :D

Anett is first on Court 8 for her semi-final tomorrow and last on court 19 for her Doubles quarter-finals. The Semi will not be streamed, as won't the Doubles but the singles finals is streamed almost every year :)

Another photos of Anett on the ITF Article :)
http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/news/articles/sailing-into-the-semifinals.aspx

Some great news and bad news has come: First the good news: Anett has entered some pro tournaments :cheer:
They are the 100K in Astana and the 25K in Wrexham :)
I am glad she is trying 100K (It is her first preference)
Here are the Entry Lists:
Astana 100K (http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/women's-tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100027027)
Wrexham 25K (http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/tournaments/women's-tournament/info.aspx?tournamentid=1100027031)

The bad news, is that it is the same week as European Championships so she will have to skip one or the other :(

Dan_Doe
Jul 6th, 2012, 10:13 AM
Oh, dammit, I forgot the final will probably be streamed. I already watched Genie several times on streams and one time on TV, so go go Anett! :oh:

chingching
Jul 6th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Oh, dammit, I forgot the final will probably be streamed. I watched Genie several times on streams and one time on TV, so go go Anett! :oh:

:lol:
The match is supposed to have started but I think it's raining in London :(
I hope it starts soon :scared:

The European Championships List has been released: ANETT IS NOT ON IT!!!!!!!!!!! How did that happen :eek: Lisanna Pihlak, her good friend from EKSM is replacing her :facepalm:

Anett could actually win this tournament as the top seed is Bencic (who I thought would play 16s :shrug:) and the only experienced Juniors playing are Kovalets, Kostic, Kremen and Gasparyan, all of who I think Anett could beat :shrug:

Anyway, it's the pro results that matter and she is playing some this week, but this may cost her a top 10 year end ranking and Junior Exempts :shrug: (if she even needs them :lol:)

Anyway, the others representing Estonia at the European Championships are Erika Hendsel and tatjana Vorobjova in the 16s and Jana Kuzovkova and Valeria Gorlats in the 14s :)

chingching
Jul 6th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Anett lost 7-6(3) 6-4 :)
She should have won the first set and played some stupid points in the second but Eugenie played freakishly well :)
Good luck to her in doubles :)
Her and Indy have a genuine shot given how close Svitolina/Abanda's match has been :)

WhoAmI?
Jul 6th, 2012, 04:05 PM
Who did she lose to at last year's European Championships again?

I looked at those entrylists. Astana 100k is strong, Anett is 80 something out, I doubt she'd make it in. So she'll probably play Wrexham (those 25ks doesn't go for her at all, but unfortunately she's ranked too low to skip them). Also, if she's willing to go to Astana why wouldn't she have tried to enter Baku IS, as it's the same week:scratch:

14 players IN Q - Larsson, Cabeza Candela, Zaniewska, Lertcheewakarn, Domachowska, Puchkova, Savchuk, Jones, Dolonc, Krunic, Dzehalevich(SR231), Wang, Garcia Vidagany(SR234), Gavrilova

TOP ALTs to Q - Zhou(SR250), South, Solovieva, Van Uytvanck, Fujiwara

And top alts at Astana are #237, #2238, #240, #241 :eek:

chingching
Jul 6th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Who did she lose to at last year's European Championships again?

I looked at those entrylists. Astana 100k is strong, Anett is 80 something out, I doubt she'd make it in. So she'll probably play Wrexham (those 25ks doesn't go for her at all, but unfortunately she's ranked too low to skip them). Also, if she's willing to go to Astana why wouldn't she have tried to enter Baku IS, as it's the same week:scratch:



And top alts at Astana are #237, #2238, #240, #241 :eek:

I thought she would try and play Baku too
But she should make Astana, and will probably almost be seeded for Qualies. I like that she will have to come through Qualies :)
If Astana has a similar field to next weeks Biarritz (it should be harder as there is also Baku and Olomouc 100K) then Anett would be the 10th player in Qualies. These draws die down very quickly :)
There are 78 Players who don't have Baku as their first preference and there will be others that just pull ou for other reasons so I am not too worried about Anett not making it
I annoyed that she didn't play tthe 25K the week before as she could have gotten a Semi or a Final from it :shrug:
Anyway, I would love for Anett to qualify and win a round, but that may just be a pipe dream. She has to remember she but Putintseva on Clay, and Putintseva has won a 100K + H :lol:

Meelis
Jul 6th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Why would she play ECH? U16 is prestigious, U18 is so-so...

Who did she lose to at last year's European Championships again?

As a 2nd seed in U-16, Anett lost to Camilla Rosatello in the third round.

I looked at those entrylists. Astana 100k is strong, Anett is 80 something out, I doubt she'd make it in. And top alts at Astana are #237, #2238, #240, #241 :eek:

Of course she would make the cut. Unlikely they will have a qualifying draws without byes, even using bunch of unranked locals.

WhoAmI?
Jul 6th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Why would she play ECH? U16 is prestigious, U18 is so-so...



As a 2nd seed in U-16, Anett lost to Camilla Rosatello in the third round.



That's what I was thinking, she lost to someone random, so it's not given she'd win it this year;)

And since you're both sure she'll make the cut in Astana, a way to go:D I have a feeling she'll do better in there than she'd do in UK.

muusa
Jul 6th, 2012, 06:59 PM
Too bad that Bouchard got her revenge in the most important match :(
Still, good effort for Anett - two slam semis in a row. Maybe another one at USO? :D

I think it's great that she wants to try Astana 100k, but maybe Astana 25k a week before would be better for collecting points.

Btw, Indy and Anett lost in doubles also, the tiebreak was very close. How unlucky.

Tennisfan06
Jul 6th, 2012, 07:02 PM
Anett and Indy lost in doubles, 46 62 8-10. They started that tb well, leading 6-3** but after that... :rolleyes:

Meelis
Jul 6th, 2012, 07:15 PM
Still best doubles result in her ITF career ;)

chingching
Jul 7th, 2012, 03:13 AM
Anett and Indy lost in doubles, 46 62 8-10. They started that tb well, leading 6-3** but after that... :rolleyes:

NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such a shame :sad:
hey could have made the final and gotten revenge on Bouchard :)
Anyway, still a good effort :)
As Meelis said, Anett's best Doubles result in her career :)
Although I thought she did better at Yucatan :shrug:
I hope she plays Astana instead of Wrexham :)
BTW, Anett is now the 80th Alternate in Astana and the 31st in Wrexham :lol:

Some photos of Anett from Wimbledon :)
They are all in the Junior Article :)
Here's the link :)
http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/news/articles/finding-a-way-to-the-finals.aspx
I love the one of Anett Thinking/Pouting with the Teddy Bear on her bag in the corner :)

TimeyWimey
Jul 7th, 2012, 10:44 AM
she's improving, we could not ask her to win every tournaments

chingching
Jul 8th, 2012, 12:46 PM
Anett up at 78 in the Astana Alternates List :lol:
28 on Wrexham
There is only 1 First Priority in whole Wrexham MD List :spit: Anett has only 10 1st Priority players in front of her :lol:
She would almost be seeded :haha:

I still think Astana is the way to go though :)

chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 03:25 AM
Anett up at 69 for Astana and 24 for Wrexham
There are going to be massive withdrawals from one or the other soon because many players have doubled up :)

Meelis
Jul 9th, 2012, 10:43 AM
After Astana she will play 75k+H in Beijing and then will start prepare for the US Open.

chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 12:02 PM
After Astana she will play 75k+H in Beijing and then will start prepare for the US Open.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
That's great :cheer:
Source though :lol:
I believe it's true, coming from Meelis but I haven't found any articles on it :(
This is so good though as she is finally playing in a weaker field,a s she will probably make Main Draw :D
I can't wait :cheer:

BTW, I am looking around the internet for photos of tennis players and I have just started looking for Anett :)
Here are some photos of her at the 2010 Estonian Championships where she defended her title as a 14 year old :eek:
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chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:18 PM
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chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:19 PM
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muusa
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:22 PM
Finally some "weaker" tournaments! That's great that she has decided to travel to Beijing. Meelis can probably predict the MD cut-off, for example for this week's 50k-s in North America it is 453 and 725.

And to think - just a year ago she was playing the 10k events in Finland. After that she has 5 more tournaments allowed if I'm not mistaken, that should be enough for filling the schedule in October-November.

chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:24 PM
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chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:24 PM
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chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:25 PM
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chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:27 PM
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I agree with muusa.
It is a feat that Anett is where she is given that a year ago she lost QF of a 10K :)
And what is even more shocking IMO is that in just her 4th even, she won a title!!!!!! And she had had no wins at MD level except the QF the week before. That was when I realised she was going to be good :)

I know these photos clog up a bit, but I can move them when I create my Anett's photos thread. Anett doesn't have enough active supporters to do so just yet though :)

muusa
Jul 9th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Anett is now 5th in junior rankings, but will drop to 9th or 10th after the points from Linz come off next week. The next chance for collecting points is Canadian Open, assuming she'll play this as a warm-up for USO. Last year she didn't do that well in North-America, hopefully it will be a bit better this time. What I find really great is that she can play well on different surfaces - indoor hard, clay of course and even grass as we all saw last week. Only outdoor hard seemed to be a problem - USO and AO and their warmups did not go that well, but then again it was kind of unlucky draw in Australia where she had to face Townsend in a relatively early round in both competitions.

chingching
Jul 9th, 2012, 10:12 PM
Anett is now 5th in junior rankings, but will drop to 9th or 10th after the points from Linz come off next week. The next chance for collecting points is Canadian Open, assuming she'll play this as a warm-up for USO. Last year she didn't do that well in North-America, hopefully it will be a bit better this time. What I find really great is that she can play well on different surfaces - indoor hard, clay of course and even grass as we all saw last week. Only outdoor hard seemed to be a problem - USO and AO and their warmups did not go that well, but then again it was kind of unlucky draw in Australia where she had to face Townsend in a relatively early round in both competitions.

She played well in Israel though, so improvement seems to have been made :)
Anett is up to 12th on the Alternates for Wrexham and 48th for Astana with one day until closing.
Thankfully there are still many non first preferences in both tournaments :)

chingching
Jul 10th, 2012, 12:12 PM
The withdrawal deadline has been reached for 100K Astana and Anett is still the 21st Alternate :scared:
I hope she gets in :)
If she played Baku I think she would be in Qualies already :lol:

muusa
Jul 10th, 2012, 01:01 PM
The withdrawal deadline has been reached for 100K Astana and Anett is still the 21st Alternate :scared:
I hope she gets in :)
If she played Baku I think she would be in Qualies already :lol:

Actually it closes at 14 GMT, so still an hour left ;)

Meelis
Jul 10th, 2012, 01:05 PM
Lists are not updated in real time anyway.

muusa
Jul 10th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Lists are not updated in real time anyway.

That's what I thought as well, but when refreshing I saw her being at 48, then 21, then 19 and now 16 etc, so I have no idea what's up with that :confused: Usually the updated lists are publisehd in the evening.

chingching
Jul 10th, 2012, 01:19 PM
That's what I thought as well, but when refreshing I saw her being at 48, then 21, then 19 and now 16 etc, so I have no idea what's up with that :confused: Usually the updated lists are publisehd in the evening.

Anett up at 14 :cheer:
Now just a few places away from the Qualifying Draw :cheer:

EDIT: Now 13
People are withdrawing by the second. They like to cut it fine :lol:

EDIT: Now they are just showing the 9ths list :)

BTW, I am going to be away from Internet access until at least Monday, so I will not be posting here :oh:

Meelis
Jul 10th, 2012, 01:32 PM
You are seriously checking it every minute? :lol:

Like I said last week, there is no chance she will not make the cut.

That's what I thought as well, but when refreshing I saw her being at 48, then 21, then 19 and now 16 etc, so I have no idea what's up with that :confused: Usually the updated lists are publisehd in the evening.

48 is cached version.

Actually it closes at 14 GMT, so still an hour left ;)

Meaningful list is after automatic withdrawals appear in the list. Which will be sometime tonight. But different tournament can differ several hours.

chingching
Jul 10th, 2012, 01:35 PM
You are seriously checking it every minute? :lol:

Like I said last week, there is no chance she will not make the cut.



48 is cached version.



Meaningful list is after automatic withdrawals appear in the list. Which will be sometime tonight. But different tournament can differ several hours.

So she will make it???

Meelis
Jul 10th, 2012, 01:50 PM
So she will make it???

Of course. There are lots of players who still are on several lists.

chingching
Jul 10th, 2012, 02:11 PM
Of course. There are lots of players who still are on several lists.

Good. I think a realistic goal from the two tournaments is 50 points :)
That would be a QF and a 2nd round and with qualifying she would add to that :)
That would put her around the 340s :)
Although knowing Anett, anything can happen :lol:
She gets to play at the National Tennis Centre in Beijing :cheer:
IMO if she played like she did at Fed Cup, she could reach a Semi or Final in Beijing, but I won't set my expectations too high :lol:

EDIT: Anett is 3 out from Qualifying on the Final List :cheer:
She made it :yeah:
With her current ranking she would have been first alternate :lol:

Dan_Doe
Jul 10th, 2012, 03:27 PM
I don't remember him doing something stupid enough lately :shrug: I mean you have to do something really stupid to get banned, right? Or maybe he received too many warnings.
However, this thread ain't gonna' be dead, we're still a few others who write here :p

muusa
Jul 10th, 2012, 04:24 PM
chingching has been banned :bolt: :tears: I wonder why? :confused:

This thread is going to be dead now :oh:

How do you know that s/he's been banned?

muusa
Jul 10th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Indeed... I wonder why as well. But anyone who is blocked can probably just register a new username and start posting again.

Meelis
Jul 10th, 2012, 07:09 PM
http://sport.err.ee/tennis/9cb299da-487d-475a-b4dc-d0ba6221e6b6 :)

Talks about Wimbledon impressions.
Will play in Kazakhstan and Beijing (like we already know) ;)
Will continue studies at Audentes E-Gymnasium.