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Serena y Monica
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:49 PM
now that Serena has beaten her top foe fairly convincingly (without her best game), might she revert to her old habit of showing up unfit with the expectation of willing herself to win?

tennisbum79
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:53 PM
I hope she won't

But if she does, she knows what is coming at her.
Most women now can go the distance, she won't even get to meet her main rivals because she she would lose early.

AcesHigh
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:56 PM
She's not stupid. She knows Henin will be better and I think losing to Kim convincingly at USO gave her more motivation for this year.

Serena is making up for lost time and she's not going to slack off. I think now more than ever she understands what legacy she can create.

In The Zone
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:59 PM
She's not stupid. She knows Henin will be better and I think losing to Kim convincingly at USO gave her more motivation for this year.

Serena is making up for lost time and she's not going to slack off. I think now more than ever she understands what legacy she can create.

This. She wants weeks at #1, she wants the doubles #1, she wants more slams. You only get those by showing up with your best. (Or near best ;))

Serena y Monica
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:03 AM
I'm not so sure. She has a March appearance @ HSN. They are all excited about her coming appearance and victory. Joy Mongano was like she's like my daughter just a wonderful person...whatever. Most vendors do 2-3 shows a day for 48 hours...how can she take that much time to sell jewelry etc. on tv likely before Miami?

BlameSerena
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:08 AM
^^Didn't she do it last year? Went to HSN, then made it to the final of Miami...lol

She can do it.

Helen Lawson
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:19 AM
I hope not! I always thought as good as her 2007 victory in Australia was, she used it as an excuse to sit on her ass the rest of the year-literally! Masha trashing her in that final would have resulted in a better year for her, I think.

I think this year will be like last year, she will work hard and show up prepared when it counts.

égalité
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:21 AM
Justine has played two tournaments in the past (almost) two years. Serena's biggest foe hasn't fully arrived yet. :lol:

LeRoy.
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:29 AM
Hasn't it already been established that Serena's biggest foe is Serena?

:p

The Kaz
Feb 9th, 2010, 02:27 AM
now that Serena has beaten her top foe fairly convincingly (without her best game), might she revert to her old habit of showing up unfit with the expectation of willing herself to win?

You call 64 36 62 'fairly convincing' :spit:

Delusional much? :weirdo:

The Kaz
Feb 9th, 2010, 02:28 AM
Justina has played two tournaments in the past (almost) two years. Serena's biggest foe hasn't fully arrived yet. :lol:

And when she does (RG)...it'll be crush time for Serena :devil: :drool:

trufanjay
Feb 9th, 2010, 02:32 AM
The Australian Open should have motivated her to work even harder. The last stages of that tournament for Serena was a lot harder than it should have been.
I think the fact that she hurt herself prior to the Open isn't her fault. She worked hard to not only to win the singles title but the doubles also. So I think if she could have things her way she would definitely stay physically fit so that she can continue to win grand slams.

Serena y Monica
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:38 AM
You call 64 36 62 'fairly convincing' :spit:

Delusional much? :weirdo:

Yes I do...espcially when u factor in the fact that Serena was on 1 leg had a sprained wrist and tried to choke the match away...I know it hurts...but it's true.

meyerpl
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:42 AM
Well........I did see that she has entered a hot dog eating contest in New Jersey next week.

kiwifan
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:46 AM
Hasn't it already been established that Serena's biggest foe is Serena?

:p

Written in stone. ;)

But so many posters desperately need to head over to www.rif.org :devil:

The Witch-king
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:54 AM
Justine has played two tournaments in the past (almost) two years. Serena's biggest foe hasn't fully arrived yet. :lol:

And when she does (RG)...it'll be crush time for Serena :devil: :drool:

ooh :scared: just like Stosur at the AO :tape:

bandabou
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:21 AM
I don't think or hope so. Serena knows that this form isn't forever...years are mounting and she can build a very nice legacy. Not gonna play around anymore.

The Kaz
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:27 PM
Yes I do...espcially when u factor in the fact that Serena was on 1 leg had a sprained wrist and tried to choke the match away...I know it hurts...but it's true.

Meanwhile Justine is in only her 2nd tournament in 2 years...she was rusty at best and yet she was able to push the 'world no1' to 3 sets...I know it hurts...but it's true. ;) :p

Most of Serena's "injuries" are overexaggerated anyways :rolleyes:

ooh :scared: just like Stosur at the AO :tape:

I think I was talking about Henin and not Stosur, so why did you bring her up you moron :weirdo:. Stosur was lucky to even get to the 4th round based on her previous form so I was content even though she lost.

Vlover
Feb 9th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Meanwhile Justine is in only her 2nd tournament in 2 years...she was rusty at best and yet she was able to push the 'world no1' to 3 sets....
Justine had 2 yrs to rest mentally, physically and retool her game. Serena didn't have that luxury therefore if Justine couldn't take out an exhausted, injured not playing her best Serena, then a fully recovered Serena will not be easier to handle. Remember the last beatdown Justine received from Serena before she quit in '07.

Slutiana
Feb 9th, 2010, 01:34 PM
Puh-leaze. We all know it's most likely that Justine just used those 18 months to try and get even fitter and train even harder. :lol:

MrSerenaWilliams
Feb 9th, 2010, 02:34 PM
She's not stupid. She knows Henin will be better and I think losing to Kim convincingly at USO gave her more motivation for this year.

Serena is making up for lost time and she's not going to slack off. I think now more than ever she understands what legacy she can create.
:unsure: I wouldn't call 4 and 5 convincing, but :shrug: semantics.

I WILL say that losing at the US Open in the MANNER that she did was more of a motivating factor than anything :shrug:

Puh-leaze. We all know it's most likely that Justine just used those 18 months to try and get even fitter and train even harder. :lol:

:rolleyes:
THIS.

Otlichno
Feb 9th, 2010, 02:44 PM
I don't think Henin is her only big foe, so I don't really think that one win against a rusty Henin will give her enough confidence to show up unfit. But than again we all know Serena's biggest foe is herself, because Serena has only really been at her fittest from 2002-2003 and we all know exactly what happened then. Still if Serena became unfit and lost all her matches in the first round you wont see me complaining :lol:

doni1212
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:08 PM
Hasn't it already been established that Serena's biggest foe is Serena?

:p

Yes it has, :yeah:

_Cell-chuk
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:29 PM
now that Serena has beaten her top foe fairly convincingly (without her best game), might she revert to her old habit of showing up unfit with the expectation of willing herself to win?

Serena didn't serve this well even when she won the Serena Slam. Her serve was unbelivable and it was what won her the championships.

The only thing that was convincing was that Serena's serve is way way better than Justine's dismal so-called delivery.

Serena y Monica
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:37 PM
[quote=The Kaz;17261207]Meanwhile Justine is in only her 2nd tournament in 2 years...she was rusty at best and yet she was able to push the 'world no1' to 3 sets...I know it hurts...but it's true. ;) :p

Most of Serena's "injuries" are overexaggerated anyways :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: So rusty infact that she beat all comers in those 2 tournaments w/the exception on Serena and Kim...lol.
I'm sure you would know Dr? Kaz...

Serena y Monica
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by LeRoy. http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images2007/buttons/lastpost.gif (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=17259371#post17259371)
Hasn't it already been established that Serena's biggest foe is Serena?

:p

Yes it has...i.e. the thread.

janksta
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:06 PM
its starting to bother me when people refer to henin's time away from the game as retirement...and use that to as some form of phenomenon that she can get to the finals in the first two events of her "comeback." nothing forced her out of the game i.e. injuries. in other words, nothing kept her from regularly training if she wanted to, or hitting the same way that got her to number one and 2 slams in 2007. unlike kim, who had a baby to prevent her from hitting (among her other injuries that kept her for a 2.5 years). or hingis with her foot (?) problems (out for 3 years??)...or even sharapova with her shoulder (out for almost a year).

so as great of an achievement it is to reach the finals of brisbane and ao, the fact that she was able to do it from "retirement" facto is getting old fast for me. she was number one when she "left"....and it wasn't that long ago compared to clijsters and hingis who had legitimate retirement reasons. in fact, she announced her come back just over a year she announced her retirement. she probably even started hitting the moment federer won RG, which would be exactly a year after she announced that she's leaving. so that's a year of break from tennis (comparable to Sharapova's time away), with around 7 months of training to get in to the level she showed in Brisbane and Australian Open.

Serena y Monica
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:05 PM
its starting to bother me when people refer to henin's time away from the game as retirement...and use that to as some form of phenomenon that she can get to the finals in the first two events of her "comeback." nothing forced her out of the game i.e. injuries. in other words, nothing kept her from regularly training if she wanted to, or hitting the same way that got her to number one and 2 slams in 2007. unlike kim, who had a baby to prevent her from hitting (among her other injuries that kept her for a 2.5 years). or hingis with her foot (?) problems (out for 3 years??)...or even sharapova with her shoulder (out for almost a year).

so as great of an achievement it is to reach the finals of brisbane and ao, the fact that she was able to do it from "retirement" facto is getting old fast for me. she was number one when she "left"....and it wasn't that long ago compared to clijsters and hingis who had legitimate retirement reasons. in fact, she announced her come back just over a year she announced her retirement. she probably even started hitting the moment federer won RG, which would be exactly a year after she announced that she's leaving. so that's a year of break from tennis (comparable to Sharapova's time away), with around 7 months of training to get in to the level she showed in Brisbane and Australian Open.

Excellent point. One I made previously. She took a sabatical...there was no reason in the world for her not to come back at the top of the sport. Some on the tour have been away longer and come back just as strong (Monica, Jennifer, Mary Pierce(I think). So why pretend it's a miracle or even unexpected. BTW, it says no more about the state of womens tennis than Michael Jordan's return said about the NBA.

LCS
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:22 PM
I guess you have plenty of time in your hands to wonder such thing. :spit:

janksta
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:35 PM
Excellent point. One I made previously. She took a sabatical...there was no reason in the world for her not to come back at the top of the sport. Some on the tour have been away longer and come back just as strong (Monica, Jennifer, Mary Pierce(I think). So why pretend it's a miracle or even unexpected. BTW, it says no more about the state of womens tennis than Michael Jordan's return said about the NBA.

Right. People act as if she just decided to pick up a racket and started playing/training before the Australian tournaments...without acknowledging she's been more likely training after Federer won RG...which was the first week of June 2009!!

Serena y Monica
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:21 PM
I guess you have plenty of time in your hands to wonder such thing. :spit:

Yep I do...as apparently do you;)

tennisbum79
Feb 10th, 2010, 12:49 AM
I guess you have plenty of time in your hands to wonder such thing. :spit:
With your busy schedule, how did you find to the time register to this site, log on, find this thread, read the OP post, then still decide to use your precious time to respond this useless thread?
How did you do it?