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gaviotabr
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:05 PM
So.. let's discuss Dubai, Indian Wells and Miami here.

gaviotabr
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:09 PM
Dubai has an awesome field. Here is hoping Ana gets the toughest draw possible and loses in the first round. I'm thinking at the big picture people! She needs to see she is not going in the right path..

Here is the field:

2010 Women's Line Up


Player Name Nat. Rank
Serena Williams USA 1
Dinara Safina RUS 2
Caroline Wozniacki DEN 3
Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 4
Venus Williams USA 5
Victoria Azarenka BLR 6
Elena Dementieva RUS 7
Jelena Jankovic SRB 8
Agnieszka Radwanska POL 9
Na Li CHN 10
Samantha Stosur AUS 11
Marion Bartoli FRA 13
Vera Zvonareva RUS 14
Yanina Wickmayer BEL 15
Francesca Schiavone ITA 18
Nadia Petrova RUS 19
Katarina Srebotnik SLO 20SR
Jie Zheng CHN 20
Aravane Rezai FRA 21
Shahar Peer ISR 22
Ana Ivanovic SRB 23
Virginie Razzano FRA 24
Sabine Lisicki GER 25
Alona Bondarenko UKR 26
Daniela Hantuchova SVK 27
Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez ESP 28
Elena Vesnina RUS 29
Dominika Cibulkova SVK 30
Alisa Kleybanova RUS 31
Anabel Medina Garrigues ESP 32
Kateryna Bondaranko UKR 33
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova RUS 38
Sorana Cirstea ROU 39
Vera Dushevina RUS 40
Melinda Czink HUN 41
Iveta Benesova CZE 43
Patty Schnyder SUI 44
Lucie Safarova CZE 46
Magdalena Rybarikova SVK 47
Yaroslava Shvedova KAZ 48
Shuai Peng CHN 51
Alexandra Dulgheru ROU 54
Olga Govortsova BLR 55

The Daviator
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:11 PM
I'm thinking she gets a grand total of 3 wins from all 3 events, and I'm being optimistic :lol:

gaviotabr
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:12 PM
I'm thinking she gets a grand total of 3 wins from all 3 events, and I'm being optimistic :lol:

I'm hoping she gets none.. shock therapy so she stops saying she is playing well, and that she is in the right path. :o:tape::help:

-NAJ-
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:22 PM
*Safina is out of Dubai

:wavey:she needs to get someone from Q to go into R2
and it would be great to put her on court 3, so we can't watch her matches on tv

jelenacg
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:26 PM
I predict she will lose in first round in Dubai and IW .I don`t need a prediction for Miami i know she will lose early there :lol:
And i`m hopping for this bc this is the only way she will understand she is not doing enough to get out of this slump.And bc she still thinks she played well while i wanted to die just by watching her

gaviotabr
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:27 PM
*Safina is out of Dubai

:wavey:she needs to get someone from Q to go into R2
and it would be great to put her on court 3, so we can't watch her matches on tv

I hope she gets one of these players, so she loses in the first round:

Agnieszka Radwanska POL 9
Na Li CHN 10
Samantha Stosur AUS 11
Marion Bartoli FRA 13
Vera Zvonareva RUS 14
Yanina Wickmayer BEL 15
Francesca Schiavone ITA 18
Nadia Petrova RUS 19
Jie Zheng CHN 20
Aravane Rezai FRA 21
Shahar Peer 22

And we will probably not see her match, Ana is no longer relevant.

jelenacg
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:28 PM
*Safina is out of Dubai

:wavey:she needs to get someone from Q to go into R2
and it would be great to put her on court 3, so we can't watch her matches on tv

I didn`t know Safina is out
That would be for the best even if i have no intention of watching her play :rolleyes:

The Daviator
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:28 PM
I'm hoping she gets none.. shock therapy so she stops saying she is playing well, and that she is in the right path. :o:tape::help:

I'm hoping that too, but she'll probably BS her way past Benesova or Dulgheru in a few of the tournaments :lol:

gaviotabr
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:34 PM
I'm hoping that too, but she'll probably BS her way past Benesova or Dulgheru in a few of the tournaments :lol:

Yes.. she is probably going to get an easy draw just because I now want her to lose.

I just think that if she gets a couple of wins over weak opponents, it won't help her confidence, won't improve her game, won't make her feel better, won't make her change her approach to her tennis, and won't solve this situation. She needs some shock therapy... otherwise she will become a journeywoman.. if she isn't one already.. :sobbing:

jelenacg
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:34 PM
I hope she gets one of these players, so she loses in the first round:

Agnieszka Radwanska POL 9
Na Li CHN 10
Samantha Stosur AUS 11
Marion Bartoli FRA 13
Vera Zvonareva RUS 14
Yanina Wickmayer BEL 15
Francesca Schiavone ITA 18
Nadia Petrova RUS 19
Jie Zheng CHN 20
Aravane Rezai FRA 21
Shahar Peer 22

And we will probably not see her match, Ana is no longer relevant.

If she plays any of them i bet she will lose at least one set with 6-1 :lol:
Maybe Wickmayer can give her a bagel :p
I'm hoping that too, but she'll probably BS her way past Benesova or Dulgheru in a few of the tournaments :lol:

With our luck yes :lol::lol:

InsideOut.
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:32 AM
I want her to get a win in each tournament. Please. No long losing streaks please :bigcry:

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:33 AM
Adidas announced today that Ana signed a lifetime contract with them. She is settled for life.. :lol:


adidas and Ana Ivanovic extend successful partnership

Herzogenaurach/Melbourne, January 20, 2010 – adidas and 2008 Roland Garros Champion Ana Ivanovic announced today a long-term extension of their successful partnership. The 22-year-old will play in “3 Stripes” for the entirety of her career and become a brand ambassador upon retirement from competitive tennis.

“I’m very proud to wear adidas for the rest of my career. adidas has helped me immensely over the last few years by providing me with great products and unique services off the court including the adidas Player Development Program. Therefore, this long-term contract extension means a lot to me and was a logical decision,“ Ivanovic commented. “I feel thrilled to be a member of the adidas family and I am very much looking forward to working with adidas on many projects in the future.”

“Ana Ivanovic’s spirit on and off the court is consistent with what women’s tennis stands for and she is without any doubt a great ambassador for adidas. Ana has been part of our women’s training marketing activities from day one and we are delighted to continue our successful partnership in the future,” said Jocelyn Robiot, VP Global Sports Marketing.

Since 2006, Ivanovic has been an integral member of the adidas portfolio of world-class tennis players including Dinara Safina, Justine Henin, Caroline Wozniacki, Andy Murray, Fernando Verdasco and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. adidas is a global designer, developer and marketer of athletic footwear, apparel and accessories with the mission to be the leading sports brand in the world. Brand adidas is part of the adidas Group, a corporation that includes brands such as Reebok and TaylorMade-adidas Golf.

http://www.press.adidas.com/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-11/16_read-10900/

Adidas must be scratching their heads.. like.. oh noes.. We have Ana forever.. :spit::tape: Please God, make her good again so our investment is worth it. :lol:

But that also makes me wonder.. adidas can't be happy with her performances.. her coaches belong to adidas... adidas has in Ana an investment.. why aren't they seriously doing something to get her back up again? Or maybe they have just too much trust in the APDP, which is obviously not working in her case.

InsideOut.
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:35 AM
Regardless of how much she falls, her looks are still there. Which makes her marketable. Which makes her a good investment. Her play is irrelevant as long as she still has the sultry dark eyes and the winning off-court smile.

Nena_xxx
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:36 AM
I think that Ana has bigger chances in Dubai and Indian Wells, then in Miami. But as long as she stars winning I don't mind winning even in Miami. :lol:

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:37 AM
I want her to get a win in each tournament. Please. No long losing streaks please :bigcry:

But if she gets a couple of wins, she will still think she is going in the right path.. the it's a process mantra will be repeated all the time.. and she will keep waiting for things to fall from the sky.. Shock therapy.. she needs some shock therapy.

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:46 AM
Regardless of how much she falls, her looks are still there. Which makes her marketable. Which makes her a good investment. Her play is irrelevant as long as she still has the sultry dark eyes and the winning off-court smile.

There are at least 50 beautiful girls in the top 300.. since they suck at tennis they don't get the big endorsements. I doubt adidas is happy about having no exposure of their products from Ana in the latter stages of tournaments.

I actually think she signed this long ago.. like an early renewal at the end of 2008. I remember that article that talked about her team shopping for a lifetime contract. It said adidas was willing to give her that, but only if she agreed to an early renewal. They would pay her around 4 millions a year, with bonuses for good performance (slam + number 1) that could up it to around 7 millions a year. The contract as a whole would be around 70 million for 10 years (which is standard for lifetime contracts). And then she would be a brand embassador. I remember they were trying to find a contract worth 100 million.. so they were still looking at the options at that time. It was september 2008. There was another article in january 2009, which talked about JJ's contract with Anta, and it mentioned Ana had been approached by Anta and Li Ning, but she had ended up resigning with adidas. So, I would guess it was resigned late 2008, when she was still a top 5 player. I'm sure that adidas apreciates Ana's beauty to no end (and she seems to be getting prettier by the day to be honest), but I'm also sure they expect her to perform.. and she has been going from low to lower. If it was me in adidas, I would be doing something to save my investment.

InsideOut.
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:56 AM
There are at least 50 beautiful girls in the top 300.. since they suck at tennis they don't get the big endorsements. I doubt adidas is happy about having no exposure of their products from Ana in the latter stages of tournaments.

I actually think she signed this long ago.. like an early renewal at the end of 2008. I remember that article that talked about her team shopping for a lifetime contract. It said adidas was willing to give her that, but only if she agreed to an early renewal. They would pay her around 4 millions a year, with bonuses for good performance (slam + number 1) that could up it to around 7 millions a year. The contract as a whole would be around 70 million for 10 years (which is standard for lifetime contracts). And then she would be a brand embassador. I remember they were trying to find a contract worth 100 million.. so they were still looking at the options at that time. It was september 2008. There was another article in january 2009, which talked about JJ's contract with Anta, and it mentioned Ana had been approached by Anta and Li Ning, but she had ended up resigning with adidas. So, I would guess it was resigned late 2008, when she was still a top 5 player. I'm sure that adidas apreciates Ana's beauty to no end (and she seems to be getting prettier by the day to be honest), but I'm also sure they expect her to perform.. and she has been going from low to lower. If it was me in adidas, I would be doing something to save my investment.

But they're stuck :lol: Good one adidas :yeah:

HowardH
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:18 PM
This is actually a big plus for Ana at least financially, she has guaranteed that she will make many millions of dollars even without any prizemoney. But I wonder if it will help her tennis or do the opposite? I mean, there should be less pressure to perform with a guaranteed contract like this, she's safe win or lose. On the other hand, maybe it would have been better if she began to lose her contracts and realised how badly she was playing... If it was signed a while ago then I guess it hasn't helped her at all. If it was more recent then we will need to wait a while and see.

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:27 PM
This is actually a big plus for Ana at least financially, she has guaranteed that she will make many millions of dollars even without any prizemoney. But I wonder if it will help her tennis or do the opposite? I mean, there should be less pressure to perform with a guaranteed contract like this, she's safe win or lose. On the other hand, maybe it would have been better if she began to lose her contracts and realised how badly she was playing... If it was signed a while ago then I guess it hasn't helped her at all. If it was more recent then we will need to wait a while and see.

I'm almost sure it was signed at the end of 2008. Maybe she feels more pressure? I don't know.. it should liberate her instead of getting her tight. But perhaps her current state of mind has nothing to do with sponsor contracts.

-NAJ-
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:24 PM
Good news about Adidas and Ana , now she "just" need full time coach and sports psychologist

Curtos07
Feb 8th, 2010, 02:16 PM
Wow. I almost dropped my glass of water this morning when I read the news. :lol: I guess sex sells because tennis wise this move makes no sense. Izzy is probably right that it was signed at the end of 2008. I had to be. Well, I am happy she is staying because I love Adidas and she usually looks good in their outfits (with a few exceptions). I just hope this doesn't mean she will be staying with APDP longer which I have a feeling she will be doing.

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 02:34 PM
Wow. I almost dropped my glass of water this morning when I read the news. :lol: I guess sex sells because tennis wise this move makes no sense. Izzy is probably right that it was signed at the end of 2008. I had to be. Well, I am happy she is staying because I love Adidas and she usually looks good in their outfits (with a few exceptions). I just hope this doesn't mean she will be staying with APDP longer which I have a feeling she will be doing.

I think that Ana can stay with the APDP.. even should stay with them. But she has to also have a full time coach, leaving the APDP as a side support, which is what they are meant to be anyway. Ana is the only player at the APDP that doesn't have a coach with her.. the only one. All the others have coaches and enhance their teams with the APDP. That's what Ana should be doing.

Curtos07
Feb 8th, 2010, 02:54 PM
I think that Ana can stay with the APDP.. even should stay with them. But she has to also have a full time coach, leaving the APDP as a side support, which is what they are meant to be anyway. Ana is the only player at the APDP that doesn't have a coach with her.. the only one. All the others have coaches and enhance their teams with the APDP. That's what Ana should be doing.

Everybody understands that but her. I was reading your post in the other thread in which you said you hope she loses all her matches in Dubai, IW and Miami. I disagreed at first, but after thinking about it, I think you're right. It's going to take something dramatic at this point to get her to realise she needs a coach with her all the time. I thought USO was the breaking point, but I guess not. :rolleyes: Clearly her team thought she needed one last year when they hired Kardon, but they changed their mind. Why, I have no clue. I have to agree with what Sam Smith said yesterday, get a coach, lock her in a room and keep her there until she fixes that ball toss which is her biggest problem outside her mind. That would be a start, but it's time to start looking for one ASAP. :help:

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:11 PM
Everybody understands that but her. I was reading your post in the other thread in which you said you hope she loses all her matches in Dubai, IW and Miami. I disagreed at first, but after thinking about it, I think you're right. It's going to take something dramatic at this point to get her to realise she needs a coach with her all the time. I thought USO was the breaking point, but I guess not. :rolleyes: Clearly her team thought she needed one last year when they hired Kardon, but they changed their mind. Why, I have no clue. I have to agree with what Sam Smith said yesterday, get a coach, lock her in a room and keep her there until she fixes that ball toss which is her biggest problem outside her mind. That would be a start, but it's time to start looking for one ASAP. :help:

I think Ana and her team have the wrong approach to her slump and to her career right now. They are trying to get her distracted, having more outside interests, thinking about other things. I believe they are trying to do this to relax her, and prevent her from obssessing with tennis. The thing is.. that has colateral effects if the person in question doesn't know how to handle it and has concentration issues. It just dissolves her atention and draws her away from the game. She isn't able to put her heart and soul in a match as she used to do before, because her heart and soul is spread around. So the things they are doing to try to recover are only sinking her deeper into this slump. They also expect things to fall from the sky.. to happen all of a sudden, to just click in. And that doesn't work. Things don't just happen, unless you go there to make it happen. So, it's all the wrong approach. It's just like her web.. her team has the wrong approach towards it as well.. they think they are marketing her.. but she looks nothing like a tennis player in it.. and it's tennis that is her job and brought her fame in the first place.

When you are dealing with such a slump of epic proportions, the player has to put heart, soul, mind, everything on the game. Recommit, reconect, and rededicate. Be really serious, professional and determined about it. Focus on it. And go make things happen. She can't afford to get away from the game now.. but to grow close to it again, remember why she chose tennis as her life in the first place, why she liked it. If she doesn't change her approach, accepts to get out of her comfort zone and rededicate herself, I'm not even sure any coach could produce a positive effect. She might as well have great practices and then completely suck on court, because she has the tennis competition asociated with bad feelings in her head, and because deep down she doesn't want to be there.

I do hope she finds herself a coach at some point.. but a very good one, one she can connect with and respect. Not a Kardon like coach.. I still think he was not the right one for Ana, and hiring him might have gotten her even more reluctant to have a full time coach, in a moment she was willing to hire one. So it only made the slump longer.. and her level lower in the long run, even her having decent results with him. Kardon has never propelled anyone to success, and I think they never really conected.. besides his net rushing tactic was the only one he had, and it's not the proper one for Ana. So I'm hoping she does eventually hire a full time coach, but a very good one and a good match for her.

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:32 PM
I have to say I'm actually curious to see how Ana is going to deal with everything that is coming ahead.. It's one thing to fall from 5 to 20, it's a whole other to fall from 20 to 70 and to being unseeded at slams. Ana has had really high highs, and seems to keep high ambitions.. how will she cope with being a bit of a jorneywoman? Will she accept a reality check? Will she keep herself deluded? I think delusion wears out at some point.. Will she try things? Which things? Or will she let it go? I'm curious as well about the excuses they give for losses and bad form.. I mean, one day they will run out of them, right? I say this because even though Ana is irelevant for the tennis circuit itself (I mean, she doesn't challenge for titles or for slams), she is still one of the most popular tennis players around. The adidas store here has Ana all over the place.. only Ana, nobody else. The biggest tennis store here has 5 players posters in their 5 huge windows: Ana, Sharapova, Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. She has a lifetime contract with a sports giant, and will be brand embassador. So it's a lot more difficult to just disappear.. And she will be hard pressed not to.. I'm really curious about how she will deal with it.. if things will finally strike her somehow. I have to say I've been mostly disappointed with her on how she is dealing with things.. but who knows what's the next step.

Nena_xxx
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:15 PM
I think that we all agreed that Ana needs a psychologist and permanent coach. Only if Ana would listen to us...

bruce goose
Feb 8th, 2010, 05:04 PM
But if she gets a couple of wins, she will still think she is going in the right path.. the it's a process mantra will be repeated all the time.. and she will keep waiting for things to fall from the sky.. Shock therapy.. she needs some shock therapy.Izzy,your shock therapy premise is definitely logical,and I'd be thrilled if it worked to Ana's benefit.......but I'm not sure that this process will succeed with everyone.

Just look at one of your recent posts for a clue;Dragana apparently told Ana to not worry after a pathetic,embarrassing loss.While I understand how a mother would want to comfort her child,I fear that it goes deeper than that.You've seen me post my suspicion that Dragana and pop did almost NOTHING to teach Ana common sense or to prepare her for adulthood...didn't instill any strong values in her that would offer some stability in times such as these.Everything I've seen only confirms those suspicions.Hey Dragana!Here's a crazy concept:rolleyes:Instead of helping Ana pretend that the problem doesn't exist,how about finding some people who can actually SOLVE the problem.Duhhhhhh.....

You've mentioned how Ana might drift further and further from tennis with the humiliating losses,and I'm inclined to agree with that.Our sweet Ana,unfortunately,has only learned three ways to 'solve' problems.
1.Run from them
2.Pretend they don't exist
3.Kill the messenger who dares to suggest there's a problem

#1 might carry her away completely UNLESS someone she trusts breaks down her denial

Mixo
Feb 8th, 2010, 05:19 PM
Izzy,your shock therapy premise is definitely logical,and I'd be thrilled if it worked to Ana's benefit.......but I'm not sure that this process will succeed with everyone.

Yeah, Izzy is cruel but it can definetly work. :lol: We'll be cheering for her opponents in her next tournaments :sobbing: So sad we reached this point.

Mixo
Feb 8th, 2010, 05:56 PM
Cronin tweets

Word is Ivanovic's adidas deal is structured based on ranking, maybe $500,000 per year outside of top 20 and up to 3-4 mil if regains No. 1

Also Ivanovic's "lifetime" deal likely just means the rest of her career

One more Ivanovic: hear she's going to be in upcoming SI swim suit issue.

:shrug:

BackSpin
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:17 PM
Ana needs a psychologist and permanent coach we got it, she doesnt know that.:o Maybe we can make her a letter signed from her fans and explain everything we think she should change. Someone can give it to her in Dubai or some next tournament, maybe she will think about it. :confused: :shrug:

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:25 PM
Cronin tweets

Word is Ivanovic's adidas deal is structured based on ranking, maybe $500,000 per year outside of top 20 and up to 3-4 mil if regains No. 1

Also Ivanovic's "lifetime" deal likely just means the rest of her career

One more Ivanovic: hear she's going to be in upcoming SI swim suit issue.

:shrug:

Mmmm

I don't know about that.. Here is what Darren Rovell had on it back in 2008, which is when I think this was signed.

Update: One source told CNBC that adidas is willing to play on the lifetime deal requirement at around $3.5 million a year for every year she satisfies the minimum playing requirements. Bonuses, it's said, could boost the deal to $5.5 million a year. That number could rise if Team Ivanovic agrees to renew well before the contract is up. But, if those numbers are accurate, adidas might lose out in the battle for Ivanovic.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26673516/site/14081545

I don't think signing a deal for a lifetime for USS 500.000 a year would be smart on Ana's team, even if she has the form of a cucumber on court nowadays. Especially since this was signed long ago, when she was still a top 5 player. And we can't say Dan Holzman knows nothing about money... As the Darren Rovell article says, adidas would up those number if she signed long before the contract was up, and she did. So those numbers are likely to be bigger..

The twitt about it being only for the rest of her career is like.. What? It's written in the press release she will be a brand embassador for the rest of her life.

Also.. I hope she does NOT show up in the SI swimming suit issue.. She needs to rebuild her tennis career, not go modeling bikinis.. this will only make people lose even more respect for her as a tennis player.

Curtos07
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Cronin tweets

Word is Ivanovic's adidas deal is structured based on ranking, maybe $500,000 per year outside of top 20 and up to 3-4 mil if regains No. 1

Also Ivanovic's "lifetime" deal likely just means the rest of her career

One more Ivanovic: hear she's going to be in upcoming SI swim suit issue.

:shrug:

OK, the guy part of me is really excited if this is true. I may actually faint. But the tennis side of me doesn't like this at all. :unsure:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:38 PM
There are at least 50 beautiful girls in the top 300.. since they suck at tennis they don't get the big endorsements. I doubt adidas is happy about having no exposure of their products from Ana in the latter stages of tournaments.

I actually think she signed this long ago.. like an early renewal at the end of 2008. I remember that article that talked about her team shopping for a lifetime contract. It said adidas was willing to give her that, but only if she agreed to an early renewal. They would pay her around 4 millions a year, with bonuses for good performance (slam + number 1) that could up it to around 7 millions a year. The contract as a whole would be around 70 million for 10 years (which is standard for lifetime contracts). And then she would be a brand embassador. I remember they were trying to find a contract worth 100 million.. so they were still looking at the options at that time. It was september 2008. There was another article in january 2009, which talked about JJ's contract with Anta, and it mentioned Ana had been approached by Anta and Li Ning, but she had ended up resigning with adidas. So, I would guess it was resigned late 2008, when she was still a top 5 player. I'm sure that adidas apreciates Ana's beauty to no end (and she seems to be getting prettier by the day to be honest), but I'm also sure they expect her to perform.. and she has been going from low to lower. If it was me in adidas, I would be doing something to save my investment.

This is actually disgusting. She get paid so much while she's showing only shit for over a year.
She could at least give some money back to fans who still went to see her play.
I wonder if I would get a contract if I would perform so much below my A-level.

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:39 PM
Izzy,your shock therapy premise is definitely logical,and I'd be thrilled if it worked to Ana's benefit.......but I'm not sure that this process will succeed with everyone.

Just look at one of your recent posts for a clue;Dragana apparently told Ana to not worry after a pathetic,embarrassing loss.While I understand how a mother would want to comfort her child,I fear that it goes deeper than that.You've seen me post my suspicion that Dragana and pop did almost NOTHING to teach Ana common sense or to prepare her for adulthood...didn't instill any strong values in her that would offer some stability in times such as these.Everything I've seen only confirms those suspicions.Hey Dragana!Here's a crazy concept:rolleyes:Instead of helping Ana pretend that the problem doesn't exist,how about finding some people who can actually SOLVE the problem.Duhhhhhh.....

You've mentioned how Ana might drift further and further from tennis with the humiliating losses,and I'm inclined to agree with that.Our sweet Ana,unfortunately,has only learned three ways to 'solve' problems.
1.Run from them
2.Pretend they don't exist
3.Kill the messenger who dares to suggest there's a problem

#1 might carry her away completely UNLESS someone she trusts breaks down her denial

Hey Bruce!

Yes, I used to think Ana needed positive reinforcement. To win again so she can remember how she liked it.. it just has been a long time and she might not even remember.

The thing is.. these Fed Cup matches showed me she has let herself go too deep.. Her game has developed some real serious technical flaws and her mind is adrift. If she got positive reinforcement, it would be great for a while, but she might just stick with what she has, and simply never really fix things. Ana needs to fix things, not cover them up. So.. shock therapy.

And I totally get your points about her parents. Maybe they feel like they can't pressure her, and just let her be.. but they have to be seeing she is not happy.. because she isn't. She often looks like she hasn't had a good night of sleep, with big bags under her eyes, besides looking worried and miserable everytime she steps on a tennis court. She has a good 7-8 years of career ahead of her, especially now with such sponsor contracts, so if she doesn't recover in tennis, I doubt she will be at peace and really happy overall. So they should be doing something.. I would if I was seeing my kid so conflicted.

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:56 PM
This is actually disgusting. She get paid so much while she's showing only shit for over a year.
She could at least give some money back to fans who still went to see her play.
I wonder if I would get a contract if I would perform so much below my A-level.

We should demand her payment for many sleepless nights, lost days, and for thinking it over and over again, while she uses her millions to WAG around. :sobbing:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:02 PM
We should demand her payment for many sleepless nights, lost days, and for thinking it over and over again, while she uses her millions to WAG around. :sobbing:

While she still doesn't realise she's wasting her career, I do realise that I better not waste my time by watching her crap.

-NAJ-
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:04 PM
Dubai starts on sunday, TOP 8 have bye

i think that ES will show her match:tape: good luck to all of us

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:10 PM
Dubai starts on sunday, TOP 8 have bye

i think that ES will show her match:tape: good luck to all of us

Here is hoping for a tough draw and a first round loss! Cheers!

Stevecw
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:18 PM
OK, the guy part of me is really excited if this is true I may actually faint. But the tennis side of me doesn't like this at all. :unsure:
Me too, ofc i'd love to see her do this, as most guys would :hearts:
But all the time her career is going from bad to worse to a complete joke :( Was so painful to watch her at the weekend. She is a complete mess :(
If this keeps up for rest of the year, i reckon she might be finished by end of 2010 :sobbing:

Curtos07
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:19 PM
I do hope she finds herself a coach at some point.. but a very good one, one she can connect with and respect. Not a Kardon like coach.. I still think he was not the right one for Ana, and hiring him might have gotten her even more reluctant to have a full time coach, in a moment she was willing to hire one. So it only made the slump longer.. and her level lower in the long run, even her having decent results with him. Kardon has never propelled anyone to success, and I think they never really conected.. besides his net rushing tactic was the only one he had, and it's not the proper one for Ana. So I'm hoping she does eventually hire a full time coach, but a very good one and a good match for her.

I sort of disagree with regards to Kardon. I am still not sure if he was the right coach for her, but I didn't think she gave him enough time. Firing him before Wimbledon may no sense. She should have stuck it out with him for the remainder of the season before making a decision and to give themselves more time to gel wil each other. She also had her best results of the season with him as her coach. Quarters in Dubai, Finals at IW, 4th round at RG. Maybe it was just coincidence, or maybe not, but I don't feel she gave him enough time. But who knows what really would of have happened.

-NAJ-
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:24 PM
i want to see is she really that bad in this moment, is capable to play on such low level again next week.

i hope that something big will change in next 7 days and she starts play good again( i know, i know i sound like i'm from her wonderful world)

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:34 PM
i want to see is she really that bad in this moment, is capable to play on such low level again next week.

i hope that something big will change in next 7 days and she starts play good again( i know, i know i sound like i'm from her wonderful world)

Yeah.. that's a bit Ana's wonderland delusion there.. things just don't change overnight.. especially not in her case.. she has developed serious technical flaws in her game at the moment, let alone her mental game which is in wrecks for ages now.

gaviotabr
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:36 PM
I sort of disagree with regards to Kardon. I am still not sure if he was the right coach for her, but I didn't think she gave him enough time. Firing him before Wimbledon may no sense. She should have stuck it out with him for the remainder of the season before making a decision and to give themselves more time to gel wil each other. She also had her best results of the season with him as her coach. Quarters in Dubai, Finals at IW, 4th round at RG. Maybe it was just coincidence, or maybe not, but I don't feel she gave him enough time. But who knows what really would of have happened.

Ok.. I just don't think he is a good coach at all. He has no strategy.. the only thing he would tell her is to net rush. And sorry.. Ana doesn't read the game well enough to be a net rusher. That's not the right thing for her game.. And if you look at his coaching career, he never lead anyone to anything.

bruce goose
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:39 PM
Mmmm

I don't know about that.. Here is what Darren Rovell had on it back in 2008, which is when I think this was signed.



http://www.cnbc.com/id/26673516/site/14081545

I don't think signing a deal for a lifetime for USS 500.000 a year would be smart on Ana's team, even if she has the form of a cucumber on court nowadays. Especially since this was signed long ago, when she was still a top 5 player. And we can't say Dan Holzman knows nothing about money... As the Darren Rovell article says, adidas would up those number if she signed long before the contract was up, and she did. So those numbers are likely to be bigger..

The twitt about it being only for the rest of her career is like.. What? It's written in the press release she will be a brand embassador for the rest of her life.

Also.. I hope she does NOT show up in the SI swimming suit issue.. She needs to rebuild her tennis career, not go modeling bikinis.. this will only make people lose even more respect for her as a tennis player.Hi,Izzy:).It's almost time to leave for class again,but I enjoyed reading your previous posts.

As for SI,that's one realm where Ana couldn't lose her status unless she suffered severe burns to her face.Even modeling agency execs will tell you that models are rarely the most beautiful women...that they merely have an emotive flair for the camera.When you take the make-up away,the natural Ana doesn't slightly beat models and actresses,beauty-wise,she ANNIHILATES them.I've seen Heidi Klum up close and she's third-rate trash compared to Ana...and I'm NOT exaggerating even a little.Like other guys,there's a natural attraction to Ana for me,especially if she's wearing an elegant,classy one-piece that minimizes her cute,small breasts.

Having said that,I agree that this could make Ana sort of a joke...and she might not anticipate this.In one respect,she'd arouse MORE snickering than Kournikova b/c Anna K. was never an elite player...and didn't seem to care much that she wasn't.

Loungy
Feb 9th, 2010, 02:24 AM
I have to say I'm actually curious to see how Ana is going to deal with everything that is coming ahead.. It's one thing to fall from 5 to 20, it's a whole other to fall from 20 to 70 and to being unseeded at slams. Ana has had really high highs, and seems to keep high ambitions.. how will she cope with being a bit of a jorneywoman? Will she accept a reality check? Will she keep herself deluded? I think delusion wears out at some point...
I seem to be alone in this, but I don't think Ana is deluded. :shrug: Delusion implies belief, and I don't think Ana honestly believes in what she's saying (about striking the ball better, or improving from X point last year).

She doesn't need to be shocked out of anything, I think she knows (and she definitely knows ranking pts and what will happen after IW, then Wimbledon). Which is why I have doubts if losing 1st RD in consecutive tournaments would change anything for the better.

The 2nd Law
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:28 AM
I seem to be alone in this, but I don't think Ana is deluded. :shrug: Delusion implies belief, and I don't think Ana honestly believes in what she's saying (about striking the ball better, or improving from X point last year).

She doesn't need to be shocked out of anything, I think she knows (and she definitely knows ranking pts and what will happen after IW, then Wimbledon). Which is why I have doubts if losing 1st RD in consecutive tournaments would change anything for the better.

You know, this makes sense. Ana's a smart girl, right? Lots of people seem to say so. Maybe she isn't dumb enough to actually believe what she's saying. She's probably trying to give the impression that she's on top of things, despite the fact that it's NOT working, at least with us.

bruce goose
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:30 AM
I seem to be alone in this, but I don't think Ana is deluded. :shrug: Delusion implies belief, and I don't think Ana honestly believes in what she's saying (about striking the ball better, or improving from X point last year).

She doesn't need to be shocked out of anything, I think she knows (and she definitely knows ranking pts and what will happen after IW, then Wimbledon). Which is why I have doubts if losing 1st RD in consecutive tournaments would change anything for the better.Even those of us who believe that Ana is delusional can't really PROVE it in the way that you could with something empirical,but I can say,based on family experiences,that delusional people aren't necessarily in a 100% mental fog.They have moments of lucidity when they're actually able to see the errors in their delusions.However,if they don't learn how to cope,then they eventually retreat into their fantasies again...usually because they WANT or CHOOSE to believe them....And many folks who have followed Ana have watched her habitually avoid the truth so much...exactly as a clinical,delusional patient would.

To simplify,I don't doubt that Ana's parents love her,but we can't help wondering what,if ANYthing,they did to prepare her for adulthood...cuz she looks clueless out there,as if she had NO idea how to handle problems.We'd be hard pressed to find another #1,men or women's,who was so lacking in poise and maturity...and it's a damned shame b/c she's a sweetheart,deep-down:sad:

Midge.
Feb 9th, 2010, 06:47 AM
If singlehandedly costing your country the most important tie your country has ever played, then failing to win a match in your next 3 tournaments and dropping a good 50 spots in the rankings doesn't completely destroy her desire to keep persevering, she's more resilient than i thought.
Yeah it may give her team a good kick up the arse but while we're all frazzling about how clueless her team are and how they need a big wake up call, we're forgetting about Ana. Yeah she could very well do with one too, but really, how many more blows can she take? No doubting she has a passion for tennis second to none, but she's got other things going on in her life now that are making her "very very happy" (her words not mine). I'm at the point now i don't care about her results, more i just want her to be happy. Only so many times i can take her trudging off the court at every tournament in tears. :sad:

Oh and note to self, don't ever give Ana the benefit of the doubt. Ever. Presume the worst, and about 9 times out of 10 you'll be right on the money. Lesson learnt. Got it. :o

And wtf is this about Dan Holzmann using Ana's name and relationships to make some investments in Serbia? Real nice timing there, priorites straight as ever. Seriously GTFO. :rolleyes: Focus on your main investment, pretty sure you left some cash behind. :rolleyes:

AstuteLearner8
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:43 AM
So she lost the Fed Cup tie :sad: I hope this loss might wake her up, although she looks miserable in the pics. Hopefully she will at least wake up after a few more losses :sad: And Indian Wells is her happy place...

And... I seriously hate her management team now! I bet it was their decision to have Ana model for the SI issue, couldn't she do this after her slump! If this is how she spent her offseason then rest of 2010 will be :help:.

Edit: If this was done during the period that she was actually supposed to take her mind away from tennis then this would be ok.

Another Edit: Learned from Curtos7 that she did this during USO. Wondering whether Adam was on hand at the shoot??

bruce goose
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:35 PM
So she lost the Fed Cup tie :sad: I hope this loss might wake her up, although she looks miserable in the pics. Hopefully she will at least wake up after a few more losses :sad: And Indian Wells is her happy place...

And... I seriously hate her management team now! I bet it was their decision to have Ana model for the SI issue, couldn't she do this after her slump! If this is how she spent her offseason then rest of 2010 will be :help:.


Another Edit: Learned from Curtos7 that she did this during USO. Wondering whether Adam was on hand at the shoot??My young friend,I'd say that Adam is almost irrelevant at this point based on what we see in Ana.I say 'almost' because I have a friend,a New Zealander,who's also a surfer like Adam is,and he tells me that sniffing coke is very,VERY common amongst Aussie and Kiwi surfers(Gringos,too).They don't even view it as a serious,dangerous drug....Adam is also good buddies with the Hollywood crowd.Maybe he's one of those rare jet-set types who DOESN'T get high,but I wouldn't bet the ranch on it.As long as he hasn't encouraged ANA to get high to escape her troubles,then I don't care what he does in his other spare time.

In the larger picture,I don't believe that Adam is half the "Nice Guy" that apologists claim he is.When you have to issue press statements,filled with misinformation,to deny that you're a playboy...and when you make moves on women who are currently involved in another relationship...then you're PROBABLY not that clean.Having said that,Ana could've chosen someone a LOT worse,and we'll likely see our share of sleazy rock singers and others whenever Adam is gone;Ana will keep going more steeply downhill unless she reverses course.

Bottom line,Ana is intensely attracted to a MUCH-older guy on a highly superficial level.As with her tennis relationships,Ana wouldn't accept anyone who ever challenged her as a person or forced her to confront any major issues.The notion that Adam has strengthened Ana and helped her mature has been exposed as a sad joke.I guess we can't expect him to WANT Ana to grow up;it must be very tempting for a guy like that to have a gorgeous,stylish beauty who boosts his reputation and is emotionally dependent on his slick talk to allow her to run from harsh reality.As I said,as long as he hasn't led Ana to start coking up,I won't have any grudge against him.Ultimately,it's up to ANA to choose to live in the real world or not;Adam couldn't push her there if she didn't wanna go:help:

spiritedenergy
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Ana is out of Dubai... any reason apart from fake injuries?:rolleyes:

Isha312
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:18 PM
Ana is out of Dubai... any reason apart from fake injuries?:rolleyes:

Fear?

Loungy
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:26 PM
If singlehandedly costing your country the most important tie your country has ever played, then failing to win a match in your next 3 tournaments and dropping a good 50 spots in the rankings doesn't completely destroy her desire to keep persevering, she's more resilient than i thought.
This.

I don't even know if I should wish her withdrawal of Dubai is due to shoulder pain. I worry she's close to giving up.

Davodus
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:32 PM
:unsure: random withdrawal.

BrofUJu
Feb 9th, 2010, 04:48 PM
I would guess it's something from Fed Cup. Her health was in question at AO too, so who knows.

spiritedenergy
Feb 9th, 2010, 05:58 PM
but i thought these were minor injuries... most players play through minor injuries:confused:

Nikkiri
Feb 9th, 2010, 06:21 PM
Ana :rolleyes: what the fuck is it now.

Mixo
Feb 9th, 2010, 06:55 PM
She's just proving Izzy right... she loves the mayor of her town so much

Curtos07
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:07 PM
This is like a never ending cycle with Ana. Watch the ranking tumble.

Mountain Ana
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:29 PM
Ana is out of Dubai... any reason apart from fake injuries?

It's probably a toothache... :help: She had all other injuries :rolleyes:

Nena_xxx
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:40 PM
I love Ana, but her behavior has passed all the limits. She wants her game and ranking back, but she won't play tournaments. Shit Ana, what's wrong with you??? If she doesn't want to play tennis anymore, just quit it and stop embarrassing yourself... :bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

Pops Maellard
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Like everyone else I'm sick of this bullshit. I'm sending most of y'all a PM. :wavey:

Even if it seems like it could be futile, me and Bruce Goose are going to try and take some action here. It's better than sitting on the forum feeling helpless.

bruce goose
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:41 PM
Like Aaron hinted,we're putting together an appeal letter to Novak,and it doesn't matter ONE BIT whether or not you're friends with every poster who signs it.The purpose here is to help ANA before she gets so discouraged that she gives up on tennis completely.The philosophy is that Nole is the ONE person whom Ana trusts enough that he could be honest with her withOUT losing her friendship....PLUS he has credibility as a tennis champion and he clearly grasps what's happening with her.

Maybe Nole won't follow through with our request,but it sure won't hurt to try,and Ana is WORTH the effort.Once the letter is complete,any Ana fan will be free to attach a brief comment at the bottom,plus his/her country of origin.It doesn't matter who gets the credit...though Nole would get 99% of it if he managed to break through the thick walls of denial;the GOAL is to rescue Ana from herSELF.Vamonos!!!:bounce:

BackSpin
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:46 PM
As I said before thats a great idea and sending it to Nole is even better.

bruce goose
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:51 PM
As I said before thats a great idea and sending it to Nole is even better.

Thanks.At THIS point,we'll try almost ANYthing

Pops Maellard
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:56 PM
Alright everyone should be getting their PMs now. I also sent you a copy Bruce, just so you can see what I wrote. :wavey:

bruce goose
Feb 9th, 2010, 10:10 PM
Alright everyone should be getting their PMs now. I also sent you a copy Bruce, just so you can see what I wrote. :wavey:Just read it.Well said,right to the point.

I'm headed off for evening class now;we'll fine-tune some things tomorrow:wavey:

Pops Maellard
Feb 9th, 2010, 10:16 PM
Just read it.Well said,right to the point.

I'm headed off for evening class now;we'll fine-tune some things tomorrow:wavey:
How many classes do you have :eek:?

SOA_MC
Feb 9th, 2010, 10:46 PM
Ana blah blah blah. Think I'm going to take the Izzy route and stop caring for as long as she doesn't.

Yep right now the Kournikova comparisons are comparable and fair to Ana :rolleyes:

What Ana has done and is doing is the same as to why I never liked Kournikova :help: Only false lip service directed to tennis because it's all about boyfriends, photoshoots and so on.

The 2nd Law
Feb 9th, 2010, 11:47 PM
And so it begins. The worst has yet to come, I fear.

spiritedenergy
Feb 9th, 2010, 11:49 PM
And so it begins. The worst has yet to come, I fear.

yep... i'm pretty sure about it. And then again i was thinking, since when did she start sucking? Since she has a boyfriend... Same for Vaidisova also...:help:

The 2nd Law
Feb 9th, 2010, 11:51 PM
Aaron, you have permission to sign me as "Justin, 19, from Melbourne" in the letter :lol:
Please, if Bruce or yourself need a hand with ideas or even just writing the letter, do not hesitate to ask :)

Pops Maellard
Feb 10th, 2010, 12:08 AM
Aaron, you have permission to sign me as "Justin, 19, from Melbourne" in the letter :lol:
Please, if Bruce or yourself need a hand with ideas or even just writing the letter, do not hesitate to ask :)
Thank you. :hug:

I think we have most of it covered but we'll let you know. :)

spiritedenergy
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:40 AM
i also would like to put my name on it...

Luca, Italy

It's a good idea, even though i'm not sure it will ever reach Djokovic (how are you sending it?)

spiritedenergy
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:42 AM
It's probably a toothache... :help: She had all other injuries :rolleyes:

:lol:

Ana:rolleyes:

Pops Maellard
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:51 AM
i also would like to put my name on it...

Luca, Italy

It's a good idea, even though i'm not sure it will ever reach Djokovic (how are you sending it?)

We're still working on that part. :p Me and Bruce will discuss that part again soon. :)

BTW I've now also sent some PMs to Nole's fans on MTF. :)

Mixo
Feb 10th, 2010, 10:59 AM
Yeah, I'd like to put my name too. Good luck, guys ;)

Agustín, Spain

BackSpin
Feb 10th, 2010, 11:29 AM
I will sign too. Put my name


Ivona, Macedonia

Btw I didnt get a PM and I would like to helt too if you need anything:bounce:

BackSpin
Feb 10th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Just read in her own forum that she is maybe searching for a coach.:bounce: Don't know whats the injury though, maybe its her shoulder. I even think that she is still on the entry list of Dubai :confused:

Curtos07
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:42 PM
It's official, Ana was withdrawn from Dubai according to her website due to tendonitis in her shoulder. :help:

http://www.anaivanovic.com/news/ana-withdraws-dubai

I think this injury is worse than what her site is letting on. She been having shoulder issues for a long time now and it's not going away. I am afraid that one of these days she will be forced to have season ending surgery, but it will be her only choice. :sobbing: OK, I am getting ahead of myself. Sorry.

soul
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:49 PM
So I cant remember where but she has had this injury in the Australian open, too. So now Dubai.It seems a serious injury that she couldn't really get rid off;maybe some reason she does no want to tell.Who knows?

pica_pica
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Aaron, I'm signing this.
"F. Li, China"

spiritedenergy
Feb 10th, 2010, 04:40 PM
It's official, Ana was withdrawn from Dubai according to her website due to tendonitis in her shoulder. :help:

http://www.anaivanovic.com/news/ana-withdraws-dubai

I think this injury it worse than what her site is letting on. She been having shoulder issues for a long time now and it's not going away. I am afraid that one of these days she will be forced to have season ending surgery, but it will be her only choice. :sobbing: OK, I am getting ahead of myself. Sorry.

:sad:

She says it's a minor injury, then she says she cannot even serve for ten days?:confused: Does it even make any sense? I'm not sure what to think, she is either downplaying very serious and aggravating injuries, or she's using them to justify her unwillingness to play...

Pops Maellard
Feb 10th, 2010, 05:31 PM
I will sign too. Put my name


Ivona, Macedonia

Btw I didnt get a PM and I would like to helt too if you need anything:bounce:
Sorry, thought I'd got everyone. :o Thank you. :hug: And thank you Pica and Agustin. ;)

Anyway, maybe searching for a coach is good. Shoulder issues are the last thing she wants but I still think it might only be a small part of the bigger picture, in terms of her problems.

Stevecw
Feb 10th, 2010, 05:47 PM
Well hopefully that is true about searching for a coach. She might as well go do that, as she is at nothing playing right now.

Nena_xxx
Feb 10th, 2010, 06:09 PM
I truly hope that this injury is the last problem she is dealing with. But the next major problem ahead of her is her bad draw. Her next tournaments are Indian Wells and Miami and then she plays nothing in april. She needs a change, a big one.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Feb 10th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Nothing playing Dubai, so she will drop to 29.
In Indian Wells she even need some wins to stay top 50.

Pops Maellard
Feb 10th, 2010, 07:11 PM
Hey guys please look here: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=17268177

:)

jonnyroyale_13
Feb 10th, 2010, 11:37 PM
It's official, Ana was withdrawn from Dubai according to her website due to tendonitis in her shoulder. :help:

http://www.anaivanovic.com/news/ana-withdraws-dubai

I think this injury is worse than what her site is letting on. She been having shoulder issues for a long time now and it's not going away. I am afraid that one of these days she will be forced to have season ending surgery, but it will be her only choice. :sobbing: OK, I am getting ahead of myself. Sorry.

I didnt see the Fedcup doubles match, what'd she do to injure her shoulder?
edit- In the livescoring thread 2 people mention her shoulder specifically, and others were watching as well but its all kinda vague. Anyone that can recap what happened?

The 2nd Law
Feb 10th, 2010, 11:57 PM
Looking for a new coach hey?


I have a bad feeling about this shoulder injury :o

Michael.
Feb 11th, 2010, 11:01 PM
ana :hug:

carlhiro
Feb 11th, 2010, 11:51 PM
We're still working on that part. :p Me and Bruce will discuss that part again soon. :)

BTW I've now also sent some PMs to Nole's fans on MTF. :)

I will also sign my name.

"Carl D., Philippines."

Langers
Feb 12th, 2010, 01:05 AM
Seriously, does Ana even play these days?

Injuries, loss of motivation, first round losses, it seems like she plays like 20 times a year.

spiritedenergy
Feb 14th, 2010, 06:49 PM
I was wondering, Ana was not top 10 at the end of 2009, but it looks like she kept her schedule like a top tenner... does she even know that she can play more tournaments/not play any tournament apart from the mandatory ones? I see Sharapova playing Memphis, that would have been a better choice than Dubai for example, since it would have involved less traveling (of course now she's not playing Dubai, still...). Looking at her schedule for 2010, it looks like there is no planning whatsoever on her camp, and things are done rather randomly...

bruce goose
Feb 14th, 2010, 07:15 PM
I was wondering, Ana was not top 10 at the end of 2009, but it looks like she kept her schedule like a top tenner... does she even know that she can play more tournaments/not play any tournament apart from the mandatory ones? I see Sharapova playing Memphis, that would have been a better choice than Dubai for example, since it would have involved less traveling (of course now she's not playing Dubai, still...). Looking at her schedule for 2010, it looks like there is no planning whatsoever on her camp, and things are done rather randomly...Oh,you haven't heard the news,Luca?Taking better care of Ana,so that her tennis can improve,is a low priority for the AdidASS-holes:(.......as long as Ana remains an endorsement hottie

Curtos07
Feb 14th, 2010, 08:07 PM
I was wondering, Ana was not top 10 at the end of 2009, but it looks like she kept her schedule like a top tenner... does she even know that she can play more tournaments/not play any tournament apart from the mandatory ones? I see Sharapova playing Memphis, that would have been a better choice than Dubai for example, since it would have involved less traveling (of course now she's not playing Dubai, still...). Looking at her schedule for 2010, it looks like there is no planning whatsoever on her camp, and things are done rather randomly...

I don't understand the thinking in Ana's team these days. They're delsuional. IMO, outside of the slams and mandatory events, Ana should be playing all small tournaments until she gets her ball toss fixed, her game and confidence back. No point in continue losing in the 1st or 2nd round of every tournament she plays in. It will only make things worse. I am hoping that after she loses early again in IW and Miami (not that I want her to lose) that they will finally wake up and realize this.


Oh,you haven't heard the news,Luca?Taking better care of Ana,so that her tennis can improve,is a low priority for the AdidASS-holes.......as long as Ana remains an endorsement hottie
If Adidas signs her to a life time deal, then they better make damn sure she is doing everything possbile to get back to respectable form. This is a long term investment by them and both Ana and Adidas are better off if she plays MM events dont get back into form so she is performing well in premer events down the road, than losing almost every match in a premier event right now.

Farrow
Feb 14th, 2010, 10:29 PM
Looking for a new coach hey?


I have a bad feeling about this shoulder injury :o

Getting a proper, full-time coach would be ideal for Ana I think (and after hearing her thoughts during the Fed Cup tie against Russia, I think she could do a lot worse than Sam Smith).

MM_1257
Feb 14th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Sven Groeneveld is no longer listed on the Team Ana on her official website. And there are rumours (proven rumours and she also said it in a paper) that she is looking for a coach. That doesn't mean that the one she will find will be good or will be her lucky charm, however it is something at least...

The shoulder injury if not well treated may result in a very very bad thing... I hope she is resting.

bruce goose
Feb 15th, 2010, 12:17 AM
Sven Groeneveld is no longer listed on the Team Ana on her official website. And there are rumours (proven rumours and she also said it in a paper) that she is looking for a coach. That doesn't mean that the one she will find will be good or will be her lucky charm, however it is something at least...

The shoulder injury if not well treated may result in a very very bad thing... I hope she is resting.On the surface,the idea of Ana's searching for a coach SOUNDS good...but it makes a difference whether or not she finds a SUCCESSFUL coach...or,at the very least,a new coach with a solid background.We all know her last experiment with coaching didn't go so well...and she certainly didn't fully commit to it.

Though we're not happy with Ana's team--understandably:(--it doesn't benefit Ana at all if she merely changes the outward circumstances w/o directly addressing her problems effectively.Has her fitness improved since she fired Scott??NOT in any obvious way...it might be getting WORSE...we'll see what develops

MM_1257
Feb 15th, 2010, 12:23 AM
Yes, my thoughts exactly. We shall see where all this leads to. Maybe Sven isn't listed because they are crating a new profile for him. LOOL

however Groneveld has huge praises for Prasad... At least in his blog entries.

SOA_MC
Feb 15th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Maybe Sven told Ana she isn't striking the ball well and got the boot. :scared:

If this rumour is true I can't see what coach would want to jump onto this train wreck :unsure: but I suppose someone will, I just hope it's a coach with more recent professional experience than Kardon had and Ana will look more at a coaches credentials more so than coach she "likes" or "clicks with"

Clicking with Kardon is what I feel was the main reason he got the job last year.

bruce goose
Feb 15th, 2010, 03:41 PM
Maybe Sven told Ana she isn't striking the ball well and got the boot. :scared:

If this rumour is true I can't see what coach would want to jump onto this train wreck :unsure: but I suppose someone will, I just hope it's a coach with more recent professional experience than Kardon had and Ana will look more at a coaches credentials more so than coach she "likes" or "clicks with"

Clicking with Kardon is what I feel was the main reason he got the job last year.Well stated;Ana apparently does that with EVERYone in her life...while ignoring the deeper issues:help:.Sometimes,she's too sweet for her own good and she lets her emotional state guide her heavier decisions

Pops Maellard
Feb 15th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Well stated;Ana apparently does that with EVERYone in her life...while ignoring the deeper issues:help:.Sometimes,she's too sweet for her own good and she lets her emotional state guide her heavier decisions
Maybe we'll have to hold off on the letter, until we know what's happening with this coach thing. If it's true then she's taking a good step hopefully.

bruce goose
Feb 15th, 2010, 08:57 PM
Maybe we'll have to hold off on the letter, until we know what's happening with this coach thing. If it's true then she's taking a good step hopefully.Aaron,I hope that I'm wrong,but my suspicion is that this is just another knee-jerk reaction from Ana...like hiring & firing Kardon,getting rid of her fitness coach,and breaking up with Nando....However,I'm gonna send you a PM cuz this isn't the Letter Thread,it's the Hardcourt Thread(for whenever Ana decides to PLAY:rolleyes:)...so we shouldn't clutter it with the other stuff

-NAJ-
Feb 15th, 2010, 09:16 PM
few days ago Sven was on that team list:lol: she need to choose the right coach now;) and it is very difficult
Prasad is still on the list but he wasn't with Ana in Belgrade:o
it would be great if she ask( if she is physically ready) WC for Kuala Lumpur, she need matches before IW:help:

Nena_xxx
Feb 16th, 2010, 12:50 PM
I would like to see Ana playing more matches before IW... Maybe even wining few... :awww:

spiritedenergy
Feb 18th, 2010, 12:00 AM
hey guys any news on Ana? Her coach/injury? I wonder when did Jelena and Izzy go... please come back girls!:zzz:

bruce goose
Feb 18th, 2010, 01:45 AM
hey guys any news on Ana? Her coach/injury? I wonder when did Jelena and Izzy go... please come back girls!:zzz:Jelena is putting together a photo album of the 'Romance of the Millenium' between Ana and her Psychological Facilitator,and Izzy is watching highlights of Caro's serve-and-volley tactics.Izzy dreams of being as aggressive as Caro someday,and she wishes that Ana played the exact same style:)

Pops Maellard
Feb 18th, 2010, 01:47 AM
Jelena is putting together a photo album of the 'Romance of the Millenium' between Ana and her Psychological Facilitator,and Izzy is watching highlights of Caro's serve-and-volley tactics.Izzy dreams of being as aggressive as Caro someday,and she wishes that Ana played the exact same style:)
:weirdo:

spiritedenergy
Feb 18th, 2010, 01:55 AM
Jelena is putting together a photo album of the 'Romance of the Millenium' between Ana and her Psychological Facilitator,and Izzy is watching highlights of Caro's serve-and-volley tactics.Izzy dreams of being as aggressive as Caro someday,and she wishes that Ana played the exact same style:)

:lol:

pattty
Feb 18th, 2010, 05:36 PM
It is so quiet here these days..

Curtos07
Feb 18th, 2010, 09:41 PM
It is so quiet here these days..

It's so depressing....:sobbing::sobbing::sobbing:

bruce goose
Feb 19th, 2010, 08:20 PM
:weirdo:Potential good news for YOU,Aaron:Caro just did a Rolex promotion in Dubai.We've seen recently how the Rolex douchebags have a talent for connecting female tennis stars with cursed lodestones who help to drag their careers into the toilet...not to mention serving as a major hindrance to personal growth and maturity....So maybe they'll hook CARO up with someone of equal worthlessness as Ana's 'good luck charm' so that she and Ana can have matching evaporating talent:eek:.

Seriously,it's slightly spooky that each gal had a health-plagued YEC...and then opened the following season by playing like crap.Despite the animosity against Caro's passive style on court,bOTH of these ladies are sweethearts who'd be good WTA role models for years.

Nena_xxx
Feb 19th, 2010, 08:26 PM
So, Ana isn't playing anything till IW... And no fans on her forum... Weird and depressing...

Curtos07
Feb 20th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Looks like Ana will be replacing Serena Williams in the Billie Jean king Cup in NYC. Via twitter:

RT @HolterMedia: Ana Ivanovic to replace injured Serena Williams @tennisshowdown @msgnyc on March 1.Ana joins Clijsters,Venus and Kuznetsova

Davodus
Feb 20th, 2010, 04:57 PM
This could be so embarrassing :tape:

gaviotabr
Feb 20th, 2010, 05:12 PM
I had decided not to write here anymore until Ana stopped being such a spoiled brat and got back to actually being a tennis player. I was not even going to write during IW.. but this exho thing got me so mad, I couldn't help but vent here. I might just go into hiding form again after this.

I thought I couldn't be more disappointed at Ana, at her attitude, her disdain for her profession. But no.. things can always, always get worse. She just upped the level of disappointment I have towards her. She doesn't want to play tennis, looks awful, like a miserable spoiled brat everytime she has a racquet in her hands.. runs away from playing, and finds every single excuse to bail on tournaments, to practice less, to ditch tennis.. She doesn't want to go out there and grind on the tour, play real matches to get her game back and stop the fall.. but she is happy to accept to go play a meaningless exhibition that is not even played according to the normal rules of tennis. I mean.. she runs away from real tournaments and real matches, but doesn't blink to accept USS 250.000 to get embarrassed in a set of Billy Jean King invented tennis in a meaningless exho. Instead of cashing money in this she should be getting a WC into Monterrey or something, to go on tour and try to get some points and some confidence before IW.. but nooo.. She has no interest in enhancing her game or in getting respect back as a tennis player, all she wants is the fame and fortune, things to fall from the skies for her.

I never thought Ana would end up being such a shameless cash cow. :o:tape:

Vent over. Goodbye.

-NAJ-
Feb 20th, 2010, 05:36 PM
that means that she won't be in Las Vegas with adidas team before IW?:confused:
but at least it's better than spending time on golf courts and maybe she can make suprice in NY:angel:
ohh i just saw that she is playing against Kim
sveta vs venus

bruce goose
Feb 20th, 2010, 06:02 PM
I had decided not to write here anymore until Ana stopped being such a spoiled brat and got back to actually being a tennis player. I was not even going to write during IW.. but this exho thing got me so mad, I couldn't help but vent here. I might just go into hiding form again after this.

I thought I couldn't be more disappointed at Ana, at her attitude, her disdain for her profession. But no.. things can always, always get worse. She just upped the level of disappointment I have towards her. She doesn't want to play tennis, looks awful, like a miserable spoiled brat everytime she has a racquet in her hands.. runs away from playing, and finds every single excuse to bail on tournaments, to practice less, to ditch tennis.. She doesn't want to go out there and grind on the tour, play real matches to get her game back and stop the fall.. but she is happy to accept to go play a meaningless exhibition that is not even played according to the normal rules of tennis. I mean.. she runs away from real tournaments and real matches, but doesn't blink to accept USS 250.000 to get embarrassed in a set of Billy Jean King invented tennis in a meaningless exho. Instead of cashing money in this she should be getting a WC into Monterrey or something, to go on tour and try to get some points and some confidence before IW.. but nooo.. She has no interest in enhancing her game or in getting respect back as a tennis player, all she wants is the fame and fortune, things to fall from the skies for her.

I never thought Ana would end up being such a shameless cash cow. :o:tape:

Vent over. Goodbye.Wow!I know you're passionate but I'd expect strong words like THOSE from mySELF instead of you,Isabela...though I'll concede that the tone of your post was on point....It's funny because,more and more,we keep seeing evidence that Ana just quit to spare herself embarrassment vs. Venus,that she wasn't injured all that terribly...but we don't need to discuss THAT topic now:angel:

Last year,I got some criticism when I began suggesting that Dragana and Papa had functioned more as Ana's best buddies,as opposed to parents,during her youth.That's getting increasingly common in today's world and,though it might seem good on paper,the REALITY is that parents have to be leaders in guiding kids into adulthood,even being strict on occasion.I don't question the sincerity of Ana's sweetness,but look at how clueless Ana is in her decision-making processes...what bad choices she makes.It's as if she had no common sense AT ALL,as if her parents didn't instill ANY core values in her to offer mental stability...and now she is PHYSICALLY grown up yet appears to be wandering thru adulthood w/o any idea how to proceed.I don't mind one bit if folks disagree with me but,honestly,is there ANY evidence to show that my comments are inaccurate??How could mom and dad have NOT seen Ana's psychological problems in how she fails to cope rationally with adversity?:rolleyes:

Many of us wish that Ana would hire a sports psychologist to improve her results on court,but maybe that experienced professional could help her to adapt to OFF-court issues,too

Nena_xxx
Feb 20th, 2010, 06:24 PM
I do not think that Ana will embarrass herself. Ana is good player and I think that this exhibition can raise her confidence again. She needs matches against good players so she can see at what level she is.

This is really tough time for Ana and her true fans will stay with her. Those who do not believe that she can raise from ashes should leave now and never come back, cos there is no such thing disgusting as "fans" who support her when she wins but forget her when she loses!

spiritedenergy
Feb 20th, 2010, 07:07 PM
I wonder whose decision was this, if Ana's or her manager... in any case it's pathetic, she is being used as a cash cow and she either allows it or promotes it.:o I guess she feels too famous and important to go play a minor tournament:rolleyes:

spiritedenergy
Feb 20th, 2010, 07:10 PM
I do not think that Ana will embarrass herself. Ana is good player and I think that this exhibition can raise her confidence again. She needs matches against good players so she can see at what level she is.

This is really tough time for Ana and her true fans will stay with her. Those who do not believe that she can raise from ashes should leave now and never come back, cos there is no such thing disgusting as "fans" who support her when she wins but forget her when she loses!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

If you are referring to Izzy, you are very wrong. She supported her she she lost, but why should we care if Ana herself doesn't care? It's clear she's not focused on professional tennis anymore, she hardly practices or play...i would say her path is the same as Kournikova, even though Kournikova had legitimate injuries that ended her careers. I guess Ana thinks she's to rich now to endure the hardships of the WTA tour:tape:

Protoss
Feb 20th, 2010, 07:12 PM
I do not think that Ana will embarrass herself. Ana is good player and I think that this exhibition can raise her confidence again. She needs matches against good players so she can see at what level she is.

This is really tough time for Ana and her true fans will stay with her. Those who do not believe that she can raise from ashes should leave now and never come back, cos there is no such thing disgusting as "fans" who support her when she wins but forget her when she loses!
So Ana won't embarass herself in an exhibition but was ok with embarassing herself in FedCup in front of her home crowd? :rolleyes:

Ana played against Henin in Brisbane but still lost to Dulko in the 2nd round of the Australian Open. :shrug:

bruce goose
Feb 20th, 2010, 07:25 PM
Nena,you are totally correct in principle that fans should be loyal even in bad times;from reading the other posts,I'd say the big problem is that some people don't believe that Ana is giving a very sincere effort.We know that she cares at least a little bit---otherwise,she wouldn't seem so sad.However,we can see that Ana isn't working NEARLY hard enough to fix the flaws in her game.The WS are the only ones I've seen who can win brilliantly even when they don't have much match play,but most everyone would agree that Vee and Serena are usually more committed than Ana...at THIS stage in their lives.Fans are just discouraged and,as Luca said,when Ana foolishly refuses to get coaching help or other assistance,they wonder why they should support someone who gives so much less than 100%

lena_000
Feb 20th, 2010, 08:00 PM
I do not think that Ana will embarrass herself. Ana is good player and I think that this exhibition can raise her confidence again. She needs matches against good players so she can see at what level she is.

This is really tough time for Ana and her true fans will stay with her. Those who do not believe that she can raise from ashes should leave now and never come back, cos there is no such thing disgusting as "fans" who support her when she wins but forget her when she loses!

Yes, you're right. There are lot of people who are Ana's fans when everything is fine, but when she is loosing, OMG, it's terrible.

Real fan would support her always, and wouldn't make such comments as someone before you said (I think all of you know who am I talking about).

Nena_xxx
Feb 20th, 2010, 08:47 PM
You compare Ana with Kournikova? I'm sorry, but are you crazy???
Everyone knows that Kournikova used tennis to get into hollywood.

I know that most of you guys think that Ana isn't putting to much effort, but I can only say do you remember her reaction after first round lost at US open or after second round lost at AO? I do not have doubts that Ana is training and trying really hard, but I also think that her desire is so big that she just simply burns out of desire...

Curtos07
Feb 20th, 2010, 09:02 PM
You compare Ana with Kournikova? I'm sorry, but are you crazy???
Everyone knows that Kournikova used tennis to get into hollywood.

I know that most of you guys think that Ana isn't putting to much effort, but I can only say do you remember her reaction after first round lost at US open or after second round lost at AO? I do not have doubts that Ana is training and trying really hard, but I also think that her desire is so big that she just simply burns out of desire...

I agree 100%. Couldn't have said it any better. There are plenty of things that to be critical about in regards to Ana, but questioning her heart and desire is going too far and a overreaction. I highly doubt she was faking those tears and emotion after those loses. Has she handled the situation properly? No. Is it because she no longer cares? Ridiculous. The negativity has gone off the cliff.

And the Kournikova comparisons are bullshit. Sorry, but it just is.

bruce goose
Feb 20th, 2010, 09:19 PM
Lena,Nena and Curtis,you are all good for supporting Ana...and I still care about her,too...but you're not being honest with yourselves if you say that Ana is giving a full effort.Ana hasn't even had a real coach for years now...only Groenveld whenever he's not busy working for Adidas:rolleyes:.You can't find any other hard-working players who don't have a coach except for the mature ones who don't NEED full-time help.Also,it's difficult to find ANY players who spend so much time away from tennis unless it's a case like Clijsters who retired to become a mother.For Ana to miss so many opportunities is EXTRA ridiculous b/c she needs LOTS of help right now...help she can't ever get on the golf course

It's great that you are loyal,but you should comprehend why those other fans have doubts;try to find an objective person--someone who doesn't hate Ana and loves tennis--and see if they believe that Ana is giving 100%.You'll have great difficulty finding people who believe that

jelenacg
Feb 20th, 2010, 09:31 PM
People have the right to have different opinion besides it would be boring if we all thought the same

As far as i`m concerned Ana will have 1 set played in 1 month.Then she will play IW and Miami.Since i saw how she played during FC i don`t think she will play more than 3,4 matches in both tournaments

So that gives us 4 matches played in 2 months.After that she will have a month off so you can say it will be 4 matches in 3 months :rolleyes: Some people see this as a devotion to tennis ,i`m not one of them ;)

@Nena_xxx ,i was very happy when i saw another Serbian here so can you please committ yourself to posting constructive post about Ana or her tennis and stop judging who is Ana`s real fan and who isn`t.
First of all you are not anyone to decide who is or who isn`t Ana fan and second off all those people you are labeling as a fake Ana`s fans have been here witting and posting here for at least 2 years more than you :p

Farrow
Feb 20th, 2010, 10:43 PM
Gosh.

The reason I so rarely read Ana's forum is because her "fans" are so much harder and more horrible towards her than her "haters".

spiritedenergy
Feb 20th, 2010, 10:59 PM
Gosh.

The reason I so rarely read Ana's forum is because her "fans" are so much harder and more horrible towards her than her "haters".

we are not delusional:rolleyes: There is no point in denying the reality like it doesn't exist...As many others have said, she has no fulltime coach, she has a physical coach but with all these injuries i wonder what is he doing, she's not playing and she got embarrassed in front of her home crowd, yet she was smiling and said she played well, after which the SI photoshoot came and then this... it doesn't take a genius to understand she's going in the wrong direction :rolleyes:

spiritedenergy
Feb 20th, 2010, 11:05 PM
I agree 100%. Couldn't have said it any better. There are plenty of things that to be critical about in regards to Ana, but questioning her heart and desire is going too far and a overreaction. I highly doubt she was faking those tears and emotion after those loses. Has she handled the situation properly? No. Is it because she no longer cares? Ridiculous. The negativity has gone off the cliff.

And the Kournikova comparisons are bullshit. Sorry, but it just is.

she's not faking the tears and emotions, but i feel she's delusional thinking to hardly play and the go into a slam and go far... she should play more and smaller tournaments, that would show her commitment.

Curtos07
Feb 20th, 2010, 11:23 PM
she's not faking the tears and emotions, but i feel she's delusional thinking to hardly play and the go into a slam and go far... she should play more and smaller tournaments, that would show her commitment.

I agree with you there. No excuse for her to have nothing on her schedule in April when she should have at least two tournaments on the calendar. My hope is that maybe, just maybe after IW and Miami when she is likely to fall further down the rankings, they (team Ivanovic) finally realises this and start adding more events.

Davodus
Feb 21st, 2010, 02:03 AM
She absolutely needs more tournaments. She is treating her schedule like she is still a top 10 player, and she can only play 2 internationals in a year. Even then she is only doing 1 and it is Brisbane at the very start of the year. She needs to see that that is the way for her to build herself back up. Play a lot, play small events, and really grind, work hard and all that.

jonnyroyale_13
Feb 21st, 2010, 02:48 AM
She absolutely needs more tournaments. She is treating her schedule like she is still a top 10 player, and she can only play 2 internationals in a year. Even then she is only doing 1 and it is Brisbane at the very start of the year. She needs to see that that is the way for her to build herself back up. Play a lot, play small events, and really grind, work hard and all that.

Loading up her clay season would be awesome. Something like Wozniacki's clay season last year....PonteVedra, Charleston, Stuttgart,Rome, Madrid, FrenchOpen.

Nikkiri
Feb 21st, 2010, 02:49 AM
Gosh.

The reason I so rarely read Ana's forum is because her "fans" are so much harder and more horrible towards her than her "haters".

Yeah, I'm a big Ana fan but I really can't bare to come in here most of the time anymore.

The 2nd Law
Feb 21st, 2010, 08:04 AM
Izzy, even though I didn't really like to see you so down in your post, it was great just to have you posting! You too Jelena!


I'm kinda happy about the BJK thing. One because she will actually be playing, I feel like she hasn't played in months. Two because I can't believe they actually asked her to replace Serena, I can think of plenty of other big names who are in much better form, but then again Ana is probably the only big name without a tournment on her schedule :o

Nena_xxx
Feb 21st, 2010, 08:31 AM
I agree with you all who said that Ana needs more tournament, I'm not fool to think that everything is going just fine. She needs more tournament and she needs to play doubles. That we all know. But unless Ana decides to listen us, we can't do nothing more.

Davodus
Feb 21st, 2010, 08:49 AM
Loading up her clay season would be awesome. Something like Wozniacki's clay season last year....PonteVedra, Charleston, Stuttgart,Rome, Madrid, FrenchOpen.

I'd love to see her on the green clay again for sure! Clay is her best surface, perfect chance to possibly get some wins, points and most importantly confidence. Maybe next year :lol:

Nena_xxx
Feb 21st, 2010, 08:58 AM
I found nice article about Ana and decided to post it



Ana Ivanovic's Road to Recovery


"Why do we fall?"

"So that we might learn to pick ourselves up."

Perhaps Ana Ivanovic has seen Batman Begins, and if she has, she can use that scene as solace to her year-and-a-half long slump, for she needs to find a way to pick herself up.

The former world No. 1 and French Open champion, who already had a strong following due to her friendly demeanor, unpretentious good looks, and tennis talent, found that being targeted was far more difficult than chasing the target. Though difficult to pinpoint any particular reason for this free fall from the top, Ivanovic was presumably not prepared to be the No. 1 ranked female tennis player in the world.

With this rise came pressure, pressure not only from the media or the Women's Tennis Association (which was clearly ecstatic to have a young gorgeous face to ring in the new generation) but from herself.

As injuries and losses mounted, Ivanovic's confidence began to erode. Despite having a strong first couple of rounds at the 2009 Wimbledon, Ivanovic retired against Venus Williams in the fourth round and found herself fighting through tears.

Things got even worse at the U.S. Open as she lost in the first round for the first time in a Grand Slam to Kateryna Bondarenko. It was heart breaking to watch, and one can only imagine how heart breaking it was for Ivanovic herself.

Since then, things have not been going any better.

While the injuries that plagued her 2009 campaign seemed to have subsided, the results are still not there.

Despite reaching the semifinals at the 2010 Brisbane, Ivanovic's poor form at the majors continued, losing in the second round to Gisela Dulko in the Australian Open. Nor has the Fed Cup provided the confidence break through she needs, as she went 0-2 in her ties against Russia.

It would seem through all of this, Ivanovic has been her biggest critic and therefore her biggest enemy. Her desire to win remains steadfast and improvements are bound to come and once her confidence in her game returns, Ivanovic will learn how to pick herself up again.

soul
Feb 21st, 2010, 01:22 PM
I found nice article about Ana and decided to post it



Ana Ivanovic's Road to Recovery


"Why do we fall?"

"So that we might learn to pick ourselves up."

Perhaps Ana Ivanovic has seen Batman Begins, and if she has, she can use that scene as solace to her year-and-a-half long slump, for she needs to find a way to pick herself up.

The former world No. 1 and French Open champion, who already had a strong following due to her friendly demeanor, unpretentious good looks, and tennis talent, found that being targeted was far more difficult than chasing the target. Though difficult to pinpoint any particular reason for this free fall from the top, Ivanovic was presumably not prepared to be the No. 1 ranked female tennis player in the world.

With this rise came pressure, pressure not only from the media or the Women's Tennis Association (which was clearly ecstatic to have a young gorgeous face to ring in the new generation) but from herself.

As injuries and losses mounted, Ivanovic's confidence began to erode. Despite having a strong first couple of rounds at the 2009 Wimbledon, Ivanovic retired against Venus Williams in the fourth round and found herself fighting through tears.

Things got even worse at the U.S. Open as she lost in the first round for the first time in a Grand Slam to Kateryna Bondarenko. It was heart breaking to watch, and one can only imagine how heart breaking it was for Ivanovic herself.

Since then, things have not been going any better.

While the injuries that plagued her 2009 campaign seemed to have subsided, the results are still not there.

Despite reaching the semifinals at the 2010 Brisbane, Ivanovic's poor form at the majors continued, losing in the second round to Gisela Dulko in the Australian Open. Nor has the Fed Cup provided the confidence break through she needs, as she went 0-2 in her ties against Russia.

It would seem through all of this, Ivanovic has been her biggest critic and therefore her biggest enemy. Her desire to win remains steadfast and improvements are bound to come and once her confidence in her game returns, Ivanovic will learn how to pick herself up again.

By whom and where this article is written?

Nena_xxx
Feb 21st, 2010, 01:52 PM
You can find it here http://bleacherreport.com/articles/348403-ana-ivanovics-road-to-recovery

bruce goose
Feb 21st, 2010, 10:20 PM
Unless someone has their head buried in their ass,then they shouldn't be surprised when Ana's 'fans' look like 'haters':It's when you really care about someone that it hurts to see them making terrible mistakes or wasting their potential.A casual fan who doesn't give a s--t can complain when the REAL fans don't walk around with smiley faces:D:D:D:D:D when they watch Ana refuse to get full-time coaching or any of the help she needs.

Maybe we should give them what they want::woohoo::yippee::rocker::banana::aparty:."Ana's throwing her career in the trash and barely playing any tennis........but I don't care because she looks hot in a swimsuit and is dating a much-older,two-faced fraud who mentally manipulates her while dragging her game into the toilet along with his OWN puny 'athletic career'.It doesn't matter that her ranking has dropped so low that her former haters consider her a waste of time to dislike...cuz she's still pretty on camera...and THAT's all that counts,right?":D

THERE!!Now we have a Happy(Retarded)Thread---and no one has to be scared of negativity anymore...we'll just make believe that everything is perfect

Curtos07
Feb 21st, 2010, 11:26 PM
Unless someone has their head buried in their ass,then they shouldn't be surprised when Ana's 'fans' look like 'haters':It's when you really care about someone that it hurts to see them making terrible mistakes or wasting their potential.A casual fan who doesn't give a s--t can complain when the REAL fans don't walk around with smiley faces:D:D:D:D:D when they watch Ana refuse to get full-time coaching or any of the help she needs.

Maybe we should give them what they want::woohoo::yippee::rocker::banana::aparty:."Ana's throwing her career in the trash and barely playing any tennis........but I don't care because she looks hot in a swimsuit and is dating a much-older,two-faced fraud who mentally manipulates her while dragging her game into the toilet along with his OWN puny 'athletic career'.It doesn't matter that her ranking has dropped so low that her former haters consider her a waste of time to dislike...cuz she's still pretty on camera...and THAT's all that counts,right?":D

THERE!!Now we have a Happy(Retarded)Thread---and no one has to be scared of negativity anymore...we'll just make believe that everything is perfect

I don't think anybody was complaining about the criticism. Ana deserves lots of criticism for her horse shit decision making and delusional thinking. I think her management is the worst in all of tennis and they all need to be canned. There isn't much to be happy about right now in regards to Ana's tennis. But some of the comments about Ana have gone too far and a bit exaggerated, and in my opinion, a little insulting to Ana.

bruce goose
Feb 21st, 2010, 11:54 PM
I don't think anybody was complaining about the criticism. Ana deserves lots of criticism for her horse shit decision making and delusional thinking. I think her management is the worst in all of tennis and they all need to be canned. There isn't much to be happy about right now in regards to Ana's tennis. But some of the comments about Ana have gone too far and a bit exaggerated, and in my opinion, a little insulting to Ana.You weren't one of the ones I was referring to,Curtis,and I'll agree that people go overboard sometimes---I've been guilty of it myself:o.However,there were some folks who couldn't put Isabela's rant in the proper context...her words were strong,perhaps TOO strong in 1 or 2 places,so they might seem to be the words of a hater at first glance,but....

When you consider that Izzy has been posting HEAVILY here as a fan for a couple years...and has been literally PLEADING with Ana to seek help--this despite her exhaustive academic schedule down in Brasil--then you realize that it's just the frustration of someone who anguishes at the way Ana appears to be carelessly wasting her talent sometimes;she's NOT someone who 'hates' Ana.I don't mind that Mixo laughed at the comparison...cuz Ana truly DOES remind me of an alcoholic who denies that he/she has a problem...and only hangs around people who facilitate her weaknesses.Ana isn't my own flesh and blood,yet seeing her go through this reminds me of struggles that my loved ones have had,so I can understand how others,like Izzy,feel right now.

Curtos07
Feb 22nd, 2010, 05:20 AM
You weren't one of the ones I was referring to,Curtis,and I'll agree that people go overboard sometimes---I've been guilty of it myself:o.However,there were some folks who couldn't put Isabela's rant in the proper context...her words were strong,perhaps TOO strong in 1 or 2 places,so they might seem to be the words of a hater at first glance,but....

When you consider that Izzy has been posting HEAVILY here as a fan for a couple years...and has been literally PLEADING with Ana to seek help--this despite her exhaustive academic schedule down in Brasil--then you realize that it's just the frustration of someone who anguishes at the way Ana appears to be carelessly wasting her talent sometimes;she's NOT someone who 'hates' Ana.I don't mind that Mixo laughed at the comparison...cuz Ana truly DOES remind me of an alcoholic who denies that he/she has a problem...and only hangs around people who facilitate her weaknesses.Ana isn't my own flesh and blood,yet seeing her go through this reminds me of struggles that my loved ones have had,so I can understand how others,like Izzy,feel right now.

I don't question anybody's fandome. I know Izzy has been one of Ana's biggest and most knowledeable fans for quite a while. Always enjoyed reading her posts and I normally agree with most of what she says. That's why I wish she decided not to leave. :sad: My comment wasn't directed at any one particular person, just in general. I have come across quite a few Ana fans not just here, but elsehwere the past two weeks who have expressed their frustration in a way in which I think is a bit over the top. And quite honestly, I don't blame them for doing so. There have been times where I have written something that was out of pure frustration and at the last second backed off and not posted it, or I did post it but deleted it a few minutes later. Or maybe I didn't delete it and regretted posting it later. I understand the harsh reactions. I really do. I myself have had them too. My point is, we need all chill a little and put things in a little bit of perspective. As a fan, we should be able to criticise Ana all we want for her game and decision making regarding it. But lets take a easy too when it comes to the more personal attacks which I do find a bit of an exaggeration and gives the haters something to feed off of. As fans, we must both support and criticise at the same time. I been guilty of it in the past too but I hope we can all step back a little and "simmer down now". I am not trying to offend anybody here. I hope I didn't. That was never my intention.

Curtos07
Feb 22nd, 2010, 05:27 AM
Nick Bollettieri is offering Ana help. She should accept his offer. Of course she wont though.

FIVE: Ivanovic lacks nothing but direction

I’ve heard and read a lot of nonsense about the decline of Ana Ivanovic, whose most high-profile appearance in recent weeks wasn’t on a tennis court but in the pages of Sport Illustrated’s swimsuit edition and on SI’s website in a swimsuit video. An obvious but way too simplistic reaction to this move is to say that Ivanovic is no longer a serious tennis player if she’s sidetracked with such non-sporting distractions.

Everyone jives to their own tune so I’m not going to make any suppositions about her off-court activities. You’ve got to go with your own funk. Hell! It doesn’t matter a damn whether she walks around nude if she’s happy with that and all is otherwise well with her world.

But clearly something is up with her game, and I can tell you now that I’m going to send her an email in the coming days and invite her to come to the academy as my guest at any time she chooses to see what we can do to help her get back on track. Because frankly, Ana, you don’t need any instruction, you just need a bit of direction. You need to believe that you’re a winner and that you will be a winner again.

At 22, Serbia’s French Open winner of 2008 really should be heading for her prime and be in the upper echelons of the game. Instead, she endured a season in 2009 when her win-loss record was 24-14 and she won no titles. She’s dropped to No23 in the world from No1 and that’s not just about a little run of bad form.

I think Ana just needs someone to tell her that if she wants to get back to where she was, then now is the time to play ball, and win back the respect of opponents who no longer fear facing her on the tennis court. Come as my guest and see what we can do, Ana. Spend a week or two and see if we can help.

You’re too good not to be winning.


http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2010/02/21/nick-bollettieri-serena-super-fed-soldiering-super-bowl-and-swimsuits-on-serbias-ana-ivanovic/

Pops Maellard
Feb 22nd, 2010, 06:57 AM
Hmmm, Nick Bolleteri. :scratch: Never thought of that.

Davodus
Feb 22nd, 2010, 08:56 AM
Hmm, interesting idea. I think outside help from any kind of 'expert' would be good right now. A different point of view and everything, but I doubt Ana would do it :lol:

The 2nd Law
Feb 22nd, 2010, 10:13 AM
I hope she says yes .......

-NAJ-
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:04 PM
http://www.anaivanovic.com/news/coaching-update-0



Coaching update

Ana Ivanovic today announced that she is working with Heinz Gunthardt, the former coach of Steffi Graf.

Gunthardt, who helped Graf win 12 Grand Slam titles, will accompany Ana to the BNP Paribas Showdown in New York next week, thus marking the pair's first event together.


The appointment of Gunthardt ends, or at least suspends, Ana's active participation in the adidas Player Development Programme: the 22-year-old was formerly working with Sven Groeneveld on a part-time basis.

bruce goose
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:09 PM
http://www.anaivanovic.com/news/coaching-update-0This,at least,offers a bit more promise than Bolletieri's offer,IMO.Can anyone tell me WHEN Heinz coached Graf...and for how long?I could look it up later,of course

-NAJ-
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:21 PM
He also worked with Capriati and Dokic (here) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/wtatour/2401199/Dokic-is-distracted-by-life-change.html)

jelenacg
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:25 PM
This,at least,offers a bit more promise than Bolletieri's offer,IMO.Can anyone tell me WHEN Heinz coached Graf...and for how long?I could look it up later,of course

Steffi`s coaches were Pavel Slozil (1986 to 1991) and Heinz Gunthardt (form 1992 until the end of her career in 1999)

So he coached her 7 years
She won 4 Wimbledon titles ,4 RG titles and 3 Us open titles and 1 AO title
He also worked with Dokic very shortly. If Ana doesn`t fire him this might be the best news in a while

Nikkiri
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:32 PM
Good news. Wonder how long till she fires him. :lol:

jelenacg
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:33 PM
Gunthardt also commented after he stop working with Dokic that she was more interested in her boyfriend at that time and beaches than in tennis :lol::lol::worship:

http://www.jelena-dokic.com/jelena/articles/200409/01.htm

Ana,you better be more than willing to practice and play :o

bruce goose
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:40 PM
Steffi`s coaches were Pavel Slozil (1986 to 1991) and Heinz Gunthardt (form 1992 until the end of her career in 1999)

So he coached her 7 years
She won 4 Wimbledon titles ,4 RG titles and 3 Us open titles and 1 AO title
He also worked with Dokic very shortly. If Ana doesn`t fire him this might be the best news in a whileI'm not saying that Steffi is paranoid or anything,but I've heard from some of her fans that she doesn't trust people easily,so that should be a good indicator of Gunthardt's professional manner.Also,this is different than the Kardon situation where someone could say that Craig didn't work long OR during the successful period of his players' careers.

Yes,this looks like great news at first sight;I'm just cautiously optimistic for fear that Ana will fire him whenever he suggests spending less time on the golf course and more on the practice court.We'll never find out the truth,probably,but I'm curious as to HOW this came about...if Ana sought Gunthardt herself,or if someone else made the contact.Germans often speak English very well so I assume that will be their mode of communication.I suppose that we can hold off on that Nole letter in light of these developments;).If Ana is uninjured and dedicated,we should see at least some signs of improvement within six months,I'd say

Nena_xxx
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:41 PM
This are really nice news!
I found this on wikipedia about Heinz

Heinz Peter Gunthardt (aka güggel) (Heinz Peter Günthardt) (born February 8, 1959 in Zürich) is a former tennis player from Switzerland, who won five singles titles during his professional career, including the Rotterdam WCT in 1980.

In doubles Gunthardt captured a total number of thirty titles. The right-hander reached his highest singles ATP-ranking on April 7, 1986, when he became the World No. 22. Gunthardt won the men's doubles at the 1985 Wimbledon Championships.

Was a longtime coach of Steffi Graf and also worked briefly with Jelena Dokić.

bruce goose
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:42 PM
Gunthardt also commented after he stop working with Dokic that she was more interested in her boyfriend at that time and beaches than in tennis :lol::lol::worship:I'm already liking him:worship::lol:

Davodus
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:42 PM
This guy is a good coach, I hope it works out and they match up well together. Please don't fire him within a month Ana :lol: It could be a positive step.

InsideOut.
Feb 22nd, 2010, 12:54 PM
:eek: Steffi's coach :worship: Will we get the slice? :drool:

bruce goose
Feb 22nd, 2010, 01:01 PM
To re-state in other terms,I'm wondering WHAT exactly it was that finally persuaded Ana to do this...and if SHE inititated it or was talked into it by someone else.She has been avoiding this step for SOOO long since Dave Taylor(we can't count the short-term Kardon miniseries),I'm curious as to what pushed her into doing it now.......maybe the Fed Cup disaster in front of her Serbian people?Whatever it was,I'm glad to see this:)

jelenacg
Feb 22nd, 2010, 01:11 PM
I'm already liking him:worship::lol:

I knew you would :lol:

bruce goose
Feb 22nd, 2010, 01:44 PM
I knew you would :lol:I'm dead serious in saying that,if Adam is the one who talked Ana into doing this,then I'll do a TOTAL 180 on him.I think the odds of that being the case are EXTREMELY slim but,if it DID happen like that,then I'll be grateful to him:angel:

Farrow
Feb 22nd, 2010, 01:44 PM
Thank god.

Hopefully he can motivate her and get her confidence back - and her game back. Not much can be worse for her right now than the APD, so looks like this could be a good step.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 22nd, 2010, 01:48 PM
Good news!!!:bounce:

Hopefully, he'll stay around a little longer and kick her ass back in gear!:yeah:

Curtos07
Feb 22nd, 2010, 02:17 PM
Fantastic news! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

It's about time! Should have been done months ago, but still I am very happy. This is a major step forward for Ana and gives me confidence that maybe, just maybe her team is waking up. Just dont fire him too soon Ana. :lol: First things first; fix that ball toss. That MUST be fixed in order for Ana to have any success at all.

The coach has a great resume, he may be just what Ana needs to turn her career around. Let the new era in Ana Ivanovic tennis begin!

Protoss
Feb 22nd, 2010, 02:23 PM
Hmmm...a new coach...well this is unexpected. I hope it works out better than the last one.

It sounds like he's been pretty much out of the game since Graf retired which kind of concerns me.

spiritedenergy
Feb 22nd, 2010, 03:14 PM
Finally, it was bound to happen after the trainwreck of the FC... still as someone else pointed out i wonder why she/they always chooses coaches that are out of the game for a long while... I hope it works out fine though:D

soul
Feb 22nd, 2010, 03:36 PM
Finally the best name that ANA should work.I really happy that she has chosen him as a coach.I hope everything works well for both .A very very good choice Ana's team has made.

jelenacg
Feb 22nd, 2010, 04:03 PM
Finally, it was bound to happen after the trainwreck of the FC... still as someone else pointed out i wonder why she/they always chooses coaches that are out of the game for a long while... I hope it works out fine though:D

Yes that`s curious but maybe it`s not easy to find a coach especially for the girls
The important thing is that he is a good coach and that he knows how to coach players to play well on every surface since Steffi won GS titles on clay,grass and hard courts.So he is good lets see if Ana can commit to tennis ,and make tennis her #1 priority again .I hope he makes her add more small tournaments

I`m also hopping she won`t fire him after a few weeks :rolleyes: or before GS :rolleyes: and goes back to APDP which is clearly not working for her anymore :rolleyes:
She hired Kardon at the same time last year and he went with her at BJC for the first time also ...this better not be the same story as last year :rolleyes:

spiritedenergy
Feb 22nd, 2010, 04:22 PM
Yes that`s curious but maybe it`s not easy to find a coach especially for the girls
The important thing is that he is a good coach and that he knows how to coach players to play well on every surface since Steffi won GS titles on clay,grass and hard courts.So he is good lets see if Ana can commit to tennis ,and make tennis her #1 priority again .I hope he makes her add more small tournaments

I`m also hopping she won`t fire him after a few weeks :rolleyes: or before GS :rolleyes: and goes back to APDP which is clearly not working for her anymore :rolleyes:
She hired Kardon at the same time last year and he went with her at BJC for the first time also ...this better not be the same story as last year :rolleyes:

I don't think she'll fire him, she saw the results in this past year = terrible. Last year with Kardon she actually had her best results (apart from Rome 1st round she had 4th round French, IW final and Dubai QF). I think Sven can't help her anymore...

-NAJ-
Feb 22nd, 2010, 05:03 PM
Go Ana :cheer:. she need to work hard with new coach and results will come for sure.

I hope that they will have a good communication on and off court.

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Feb 22nd, 2010, 06:04 PM
Let's hope this is positive.
He can give a new view to her, but she still has to do the rest.

jonnyroyale_13
Feb 22nd, 2010, 08:46 PM
Let's hope this is positive.
He can give a new view to her, but she still has to do the rest.

Cant say it better than that.
I wont judge anything by the match with Clijsters in NewYork, will see what IW/Miami looks like, but it will take some time. Ana and her new coach have got a big to-do list of things to work on. Good luck:yeah:

The 2nd Law
Feb 22nd, 2010, 09:24 PM
This is the most active the forum has been in like 3 weeks :)


You guys have made me a little more optimistic! Hopefully this guy will nurture Ana's forehand to become the weapon that it once was, and please Ana, let him help you fix that ball toss!!

Hugh.
Feb 22nd, 2010, 09:43 PM
Best bit of news about Ana for a long while. At least it shows that she still cares and that she recognised that she needed help, at least more than the adidas team could offer.

She better not fire him so quick if she doesn't get immediate results. I hope she realises that things don't just drop from the sky and that it takes time for things to improve.

Stevecw
Feb 22nd, 2010, 09:54 PM
This seems like good news finally. Lets hope Ana listens to him, and does what he says. Lets also hope he knows from what a low confidence base Ana is coming from. He has a proven record, and if Ana can't work with him...well then its time to pack it in!! C'mon Ana this is the man to sort u out!

Pops Maellard
Feb 22nd, 2010, 10:54 PM
OMG very happy with this news. Skeptical yeah :scared:, but still very happy. :woohoo:

BackSpin
Feb 23rd, 2010, 07:46 AM
That is a great news. very excited hopefully he can teach her something and make her a champion again.

JadeFox
Feb 23rd, 2010, 09:20 AM
Good to hear that she's got a new coach. And the same dude who coached Steffi Graf no less. He must like pupils with big forehands. :lol:

Either way, I hope she can pull it back together. It will take some time, but she can do it if she's focused.

Illusionist
Feb 23rd, 2010, 10:56 AM
Thank God!
As someone said, I'm also glad this guy was Steffi's coach, because her fh and Ana's are very similar... or at least they were :help:

C'mon Anci :hug:

The 2nd Law
Feb 23rd, 2010, 10:59 AM
I can't help it, I'm becoming optimistic again. I really think I am just like Ana in that regard :lol:

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Feb 23rd, 2010, 04:15 PM
No reason yet to be excited. After RG 2008 she worked with Sven, Cahill and Kardon.
Only the tournament in Linz was good.
I hope it will help her, but I don't have expectations yet.

-NAJ-
Feb 23rd, 2010, 07:04 PM
http://www.novosti.rs/code/navigate.php?Id=13&status=jedna&vest=171772&title_add=Ana%2C%20pomo%C4%87i%20%C4%87u%20ti&kword_add=ana%20ivanovic
Swiss Heinz Gintard was "a secret trump card," Ana Ivanovic in order to emerge from a results crisis that followed a long time. Our player last month pointed out that for some time her team negotiating with the "sound" with the name of coaching that would really want to cooperate, but did not want to reveal the identity until all ozvaniči not. Only from two days ago
Cooperation was published, and expert who has over nine years with Steffi Graf won 22 WTA titles, before the time in the U.S., found the time to the "News" discovers first impressions of the Serbian women.
- I am a big friend of the Dan Holcmanom, Ivanovic's manager, and from that acquaintance arose the idea could come to our cooperation - speaking Swiss. - When Ana's decline began in the list we came in contact and started to seriously talk about it to begin to work together and try to help her. Agreement was reached, and today we started with the training and the first exhibition in March ahead of us in New York.
One of the reasons why Gintard agreed to work with Anne is a great respect for who has the former queen of world tennis.
- Much respect Ivanovićevu, and as a tennis player and as a personality, and pleasure is that it will be her coach. At the same time, I believe that it seriously and understand the future professional career, just as it did until now - Gintard concludes.

spiritedenergy
Feb 23rd, 2010, 10:05 PM
http://www.novosti.rs/code/navigate.php?Id=13&status=jedna&vest=171772&title_add=Ana%2C%20pomo%C4%87i%20%C4%87u%20ti&kword_add=ana%20ivanovic

I'm glad her manager helped in taking this decision... still I hope Ana had some say in this and didn't just receive this news from above. She's the only one to know what she really wants/needs, she has to make her own decisions (i.e. hiring a psychologist).

soul
Feb 24th, 2010, 06:18 PM
It seems that again a part time situation;It says on oficil side an interwiev is given by H.G. and hesays that ANA doesnt want a coach who is travelling with 45days herand willl see after Miami.Im confused.

spiritedenergy
Feb 24th, 2010, 07:16 PM
It seems that again a part time situation;It says on oficil side an interwiev is given by H.G. and hesays that ANA doesnt want a coach who is travelling with 45days herand willl see after Miami.Im confused.

:confused: Where is this interview? 45 days? I'm confused...:smash:

DefyingGravity
Feb 24th, 2010, 08:24 PM
I just hope this all goes well. If she manages to find her way into the quarters of Indian Wells even, I'll be very happy. She won't be completely out of the top 50 at that point.

PLAY SOME MM TOURNAMENTS ANA!!!!

Curtos07
Feb 24th, 2010, 10:20 PM
:confused: Where is this interview? 45 days? I'm confused...:smash:

There's a translation of it at Ana's official forum. It's from some Swiss website. She currrently is training in San Diego.

I just hope that she finally stays with him. She needs stability. Although, Matt Cronin did say over twitter that she wants a full time coach.

TennisReporters: Source says Ivanovic hired Gunhardt cause Adidas PD program wasn't enough and she wanted/needed a full time coach.

I hope that is true.

Stevecw
Feb 24th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Hope he can improve her. And that she plans a long term project with him, last thing we need is a change again in 3 months :help:
Progress might be slow, but she needs to trust him. Its all about baby steps for the moment, just try halt the slide & get back on track.

jelenacg
Feb 24th, 2010, 11:20 PM
:confused: Where is this interview? 45 days? I'm confused...:smash:

I was so mad when i heard this at first :o :lol: But i guess it`s normal that they have some trial basis and i hope they will continue working .He will be her third coach,i don`t want another coach or going back to APDP :tape:
If Heinz makes her work hard and tells her how much she sucks right now i`ll become his fan :hearts:

BTW how the hell did Tipsa beat Murray :weirdo::spit:

Curtos07
Feb 25th, 2010, 12:20 AM
If Heinz makes her work hard and tells her how much she sucks right now i`ll become his fan :hearts:


I would build him a shrine. :lol:

Curtos07
Feb 25th, 2010, 12:23 AM
GoToTennisBlog.com has a great right up on Ana. I'll just post the Ana quote.

I had the chance to speak very briefly with Ana Ivanovic today via a conference call to promote next week’s BNP Paribas Showdown for the Billie Jean King Cup. Ana, who played in the exhibition last year, is filling in this time for an injured Serena Williams. She called in from San Diego, where she’s spending the next few weeks preparing for the upcoming Indian Wells tournament with her new coach Heinz Gunthardt.

I asked her about her new hire:

ANA IVANOVIC: “I was looking for a coach for a while already. I spoke to Heinz a few weeks ago and he could arrange his time and could manage to come with me here to San Diego and start practicing. I spoke to him before, and I’ve known him a long time. He’s a great coach, very experienced. But obviously it’s different once you step on the court. So I wanted to see how that works out.

“I’m really enjoying the time I’m spending with him on the court. He makes it very fun. We’ve already worked on a few things about my game and I feel a lot more confident about certain things and a lot more clear out there. I really hope it’s going to work out in the long run.”

The rest is here:
http://www.gototennisblog.com/2010/02/24/ana-ivanovic-in-san-diego-confident-with-new-coach-heinz-gunthardt/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

The 2nd Law
Feb 25th, 2010, 03:18 AM
“I’m really enjoying the time I’m spending with him on the court. He makes it very fun. We’ve already worked on a few things about my game and I feel a lot more confident about certain things and a lot more clear out there. I really hope it’s going to work out in the long run.”

That's great, Ana, but we have heard these things from you before! :lol::help::hearts:



Let's hope her ever confident persona presented to the media is justified in the coming clay season.

-NAJ-
Feb 26th, 2010, 06:38 PM
http://www.anaivanovic.com/diary/training-california

http://www.anaivanovic.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/w250/diary/adilibria0900.jpg
I’m currently training in California with my new coach Heinz Gunthardt. Things are going well: I am learning a lot from him, and I’m feeling more confident about my game.

The timing of the New York exhibition couldn’t be any better, considering that we have just started working together: it gives us the opportunity to try some things out in a serious setting, but one that is not as pressured as a tournament.

After the New York exhibition it’s not too long before the two big tournaments in Indian Wells and Miami begin, and Heinz will be there too. After those events we will evaluate our work together and decide where to go from there. Hopefully it will be long-term.

I’ve been practising hard and haven’t done anything especially interesting in the evenings. I was very eager to get back onto the practice court as soon as my injury cleared up, and we haven’t wasted any time, practising twice a day most days.

We will monitor the health of my shoulder. We have to be careful, and it could influence how many tournaments I can enter in the next few months. I want to play more matches, but I must manage it properly.

I’ve been doing a lot of reading lately. My manager’s parents gave me a great gift last year: the Amazon Kindle. It’s an electronic device on which you can read books. It’s perfect for me: I can just download all the books I want, wherever I am, instead of going to bookstores to buy them. It’s very convenient.

During this trip I have been reading Monica Seles’ autobiography, “Getting a grip”. I find it fascinating to find out more about what she was going through during her extraordinary career, with many ups and downs on and off the court.

There are many good steakhouses in this area and we’ve been going quite often. I am here with Heinz, my fitness trainer Damian and also my mom. But most nights I just take it easy with room service, as I prefer to save my energy considering that our practice sessions are quite intense.

I hope to have time for some shopping in New York, but I'm not sure as it will be a hectic trip!

Love
Ana
Posted on Feb 26th 2010

Pops Maellard
Feb 26th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Sounds OK.

Curtos07
Feb 26th, 2010, 11:03 PM
Glad to hear she's practicing hard. Hopefully after IW/Miami, she will remain with her new coach and not let some early bad results let her down and fire him. Got to be patient and give him time. The results wont come over night.

After reading this diary, I get the impression that maybe Ana does want to play in more tournaments like we all want her to do but her shoulder hasn't allowed her to do so. Maybe she isn't as delusional as we think she is.

spiritedenergy
Feb 26th, 2010, 11:27 PM
Glad to hear she's practicing hard. Hopefully after IW/Miami, she will remain with her new coach and not let some early bad results let her down and fire him. Got to be patient and give him time. The results wont come over night.

After reading this diary, I get the impression that maybe Ana does want to play in more tournaments like we all want her to do but her shoulder hasn't allowed her to do so. Maybe she isn't as delusional as we think she is.

Yes maybe you are right, we have been so harsh on her:awww: But it was never clear with these injuries, maybe she was injured in Fed Cup as well? But all her play was bad, especially the movement which should not be affected...

Anyways I'm glad she's practicing twice a day, let's hope things start going better.

bruce goose
Feb 27th, 2010, 03:45 AM
Yes maybe you are right, we have been so harsh on her:awww: But it was never clear with these injuries, maybe she was injured in Fed Cup as well? But all her play was bad, especially the movement which should not be affected...

Anyways I'm glad she's practicing twice a day, let's hope things start going better.Let's not let Ana TOO far off the hook,Luca;not only does she have a track record of exaggerating minor injuries,but she also compared herself to Steffi Graf in terms of mental toughness...and claimed that she was hitting the ball better than ever this year.Ana is still ranked near the top in the Delusional Rankings:o

Having said that,her getting an experienced coach is practically a dream come true...maybe the Fed Cup embarrassment on her home soil finally pushed her enough to leave her comfort zone.I can tolerate Ana's losses as long as she's doing her best,and now she may have found the man who can maximize her potential:cool:

-NAJ-
Feb 28th, 2010, 07:19 PM
http://www.novosti.rs/code/navigate.php?Id=13&status=jedna&vest=172187&title_add=Gintard%20kod%20Ane%20na%20probi&kword_add=ana%20ivanovic
Legendary Swiss coach Heinz Gintard currently the only trial of Anna Ivanovic. Agreement with our tennis player means to hire only one month, ie until the end of March, when you should make analysis and terminate or extend the cooperation. It was discovered just Gintard, which on Monday is expected debut as coach of Anna's exhibition tournament in New York.
- We agreed to help her in this period, and at least until the tournament in Miami. The possibility of longer cooperation is concerned, we'll just have to talk. Far as I know, she does not require someone who would be traveling with her 45 weeks per year. My task is to take care of it in certain periods, and significantly more selective
- Said Heinz Gintard.
* What are your first impressions after training with Ana?
- Three days is a bit that I said anything. We are currently under evaluation and introduction. It is clear that all flows properly, because it otherwise, would not a coach. It has strong hands and a considerable room for progress in all fields, even at the physical level. It works as it is fun to play tennis, which is good. Also, Anna is a very good person.
* What do you think about the fall of the WTA ranking list?
- Frankly, I often watched. Therefore, the assessor would be a bad fall in her game. Results it is certainly not convincing. He also had some downtime due to injury, which was a big problem.


Ana's coaches
Dejan Vranes
Head coach Fed Cup team Serbia was among the first coaches Ana before becoming a professional
* Erik Van HARPEN
Dutchman took care of Ivanovic after the entrance to the WTA tour, and worked with it until 2005.
* ZOLTAN Kuharsky
With the Hungarians in 2005. made a jump on WTA list for an amazing 700 points and I entered the world top
* David TAYLOR
Head coach Australians trained by Anu July 2006. when it was 30th in the world. Melt are six months later
* SVEN GRUNEFELD
Dutchman who works for the "Adidas" left most trace, collaborated on several occasions since 2006. 2010.
* Craig KARDON
With former coach Navratilova Ana has worked from February to June 2009.

hellas719
Mar 1st, 2010, 02:37 AM
I'm going to see her play tomorrow :woohoo:
Last minute tickets :drool:
I'll try and get some pics, but I doubt my seats are close and when I zoom in all the way, the pictures come out blurry (I learned this from the US Open. Great seats, great opportunity to take photos until I uploaded them :o)

jonnyroyale_13
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:37 AM
I'm going to see her play tomorrow :woohoo:
Last minute tickets :drool:
I'll try and get some pics, but I doubt my seats are close and when I zoom in all the way, the pictures come out blurry (I learned this from the US Open. Great seats, great opportunity to take photos until I uploaded them :o)

Cool! Have a good time. Exhibition or whatever, it will just be good to see her playing again. The next two tournaments usually have crappy coverage, better take whatever we can get.

-NAJ-
Mar 1st, 2010, 07:26 AM
when Ana's match starts?

Cp6uja
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:13 AM
when Ana's match starts?SF1 (Ana vs Kim) - 01:00 AM (CET)

With new coach I don't see that Ana:hearts: will drop more than one set at whole BJK Cup MSG-NY event ;)

jelenacg
Mar 1st, 2010, 12:29 PM
I'm going to see her play tomorrow :woohoo:
Last minute tickets :drool:
I'll try and get some pics, but I doubt my seats are close and when I zoom in all the way, the pictures come out blurry (I learned this from the US Open. Great seats, great opportunity to take photos until I uploaded them :o)

Great :) Have fun and try to enjoy no matter how Ana plays ;)
We expect a full report :p

Nena_xxx
Mar 1st, 2010, 03:49 PM
Weekly net post: More than just an exhibition for Ivanovic?
By Joe Fleming, USA TODAY

Ana Ivanovic will be among the stars on display Monday night at Madison Square Garden in the Billie Jean Cup, a one-night exhibition at the world's most famous arena.

Ivanovic will face Kim Clijsters in the four-player field, and Svetlana Kuznetsova will play Venus Williams in the other match.

Ivanovic replaces Serena Williams, who had to withdraw because of a leg injury, scratching the planned rematch of the Serena-Clijsters U.S. Open semifinal. That match ended in controversy when Serena was called for a foot fault and then berated the line judge, bringing a record fine and some commentary — including from broadcaster Mary Carrillo — suggesting that a suspension was in order on top of a fine.

Even without that matchup — which was to be the event's big draw — there is still some intrigue: Ivanovic.

The former No. 1 and 2008 French Open champion has been in a steady decline since she claimed her first major title at Roland Garros. Ivanovic, in her continuing effort to end that slide, has hired Heinz Gunthardt, Steffi Graf's former coach. Gunthardt helped Graf win 12 Grand Slam titles.

Ivanovic has been working with Gunthardt in California, and she says so far, so good.

"Things are going well: I am learning a lot from him, and I'm feeling more confident about my game," she said on her website. "The timing of the New York exhibition couldn't be any better, considering that we have just started working together: it gives us the opportunity to try some things out in a serious setting, but one that is not as pressured as a tournament."

Ivanovic is coming off a shoulder injury that kept her out of the Dubai tournament, and she says it might limit the schedule. There's also her eroding confidence and serving struggles, which have led to some teary-eyed exits from her last few events … including the Australian Open and the Fed Cup.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2010-03-01-weekly-net-post2_N.htm

-NAJ-
Mar 1st, 2010, 04:11 PM
I have good feeling about todays match. Go Ana!

DAVAJ MKirilenko
Mar 1st, 2010, 05:40 PM
For now her words are just like always. "I'm learning a lot from him".
She says that with every coach. So it won't say a thing about her game.
Just let's see what happens here and later in IW & Miami.

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:10 PM
For all the Americans out there, there is live streaming of the match at ESPN360.com.

Farrow
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:14 PM
:( I stayed up til midnight in anticipation of this ... and now there are no streams available for the UK.

Gutted.

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:17 PM
any streams for Canada?

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:30 PM
I think she looks better than the Fed Cup disaster, her forehand and serve has improved since that time.

2-1 Ana

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:31 PM
mmhhh that's good to know... let's see what happens

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:32 PM
never mind, her serve is getting shaky

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:35 PM
3-2 Ana is making a lot of unforced errors

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:37 PM
yeah i guess nothing has changed yet...

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:40 PM
3-3 Ana made Clijsters error 3 times

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:41 PM
2 straight forehands!!!!!!!!11

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:41 PM
and then two straight errors...

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:42 PM
4-3 I think Ana really worked on that forehand with the coach it was smoking in the last game!

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:43 PM
:eek: come the fuck on Ana!

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:44 PM
she volleys better than last year

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:46 PM
First Ace! 5-3 both Ana's and Clijster's fault that score is like that

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:48 PM
Ana makes four straight errors after that... 5-4 Ana

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:49 PM
Ana makes four straight errors after that... 5-4 Ana

of course:o

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:53 PM
Kim made a really nice volley and then a roller-coaster rally 40-40 Ana saved two break points

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:53 PM
5-5:o

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:53 PM
And Ana dumps forehand into net on match point.... :(

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:55 PM
Nice forehand!

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:55 PM
And Ana dumps forehand into net on match point.... :(

Ana will surely say: I played well, I had my chances but couldn't take them:o

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:55 PM
but 6-5 :(

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:57 PM
yet a dump of backhand at 6-5

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:58 PM
her first great second serve of all match 30-0

spiritedenergy
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:59 PM
6-6:eek:

AstuteLearner8
Mar 1st, 2010, 11:59 PM
Yes 6-6! 11 times to net 9 points won 13 winners for Ana!!! Net game is love

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:01 AM
3-1 forehand backfire

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:02 AM
5-1 so many errors Ana :(

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:03 AM
6-3 sigh...

spiritedenergy
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:04 AM
she lost... but she didn't embarrass herself:tape::lol::help:

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:05 AM
dumps bachand into net match clijsters

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:08 AM
kim wasn't at her best today, but enough to win I guess... Her footwork and shot selections is amazing! Ana had way more winners than Kim about 14 winners total I think and she had about 13 net approaches, and had tons of chances but she's definitely gotten way better since Fed Cup :).

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:09 AM
And Ana and Kim both proved they are the nicest players on the tour they both smiled and hugged each other at the net! :)

spiritedenergy
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:11 AM
I just hope Ana will keep practicing twice a day... Ana don't give up:hug:

Farrow
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:13 AM
Well, from what I've read (I wasn't able to watch :() this is quite encouraging. Better serving, better forehands ... and she's only been with Gunthardt for a week.
:(
Obviously losing the match point was a negative, being unable to serve it out. :(

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:16 AM
Well, from what I've read (I wasn't able to watch :() this is quite encouraging. Better serving, better forehands ... and she's only been with Gunthardt for a week.
:(
Obviously losing the match point was a negative, being unable to serve it out. :(

One minor adjustment, her serving got better since Fed Cup but still is (bad word). There were wild ball tosses all over the place at times.

Had 1-2 aces.

Farrow
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:17 AM
One minor adjustment, her serving got better since Fed Cup but still is (bad word). There were wild ball tosses all over the place at times.

Sure, it'd be naive to think she could radically improve the serve and toss in the short space of time since the Fed Cup ... but any sign of improvement, however small, is encouraging.

-NAJ-
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:18 AM
she was up 5-3* 30-0 (2 DF's from Kim)
then she had MP in next game on her own serve.
Yes it's a shame but it's exo.

IW is right place for Ana and after that event we will see did she make steps forward.

AstuteLearner8
Mar 2nd, 2010, 12:20 AM
Sure, it'd be naive to think she could radically improve the serve and toss in the short space of time since the Fed Cup ... but any sign of improvement, however small, is encouraging.

Yeah, now she's working on actually getting the serve in the box, and once she does that, then she will improve on speed. (at least that's what the commentators said.