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SHILIN-GOAT
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:29 PM
makes perfect sense

Russia's other top players are injured (Safina)or already did favor to play 1st round (Kuznetsova)

Maria need to play Fed Cup to make herself eligable for 2010 Olympics, which for sure she want to play since on grass courts of Wimbledon

the tie will be held in USA, which is home for Maria :spit:

and plus Maria gets a chance to revenge Oudin :devil:


I imagine the Russian team may be Sharapova, Kleybanova, Dementieva and Pavlyuchenkova

Matt01
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:46 PM
For Russia against USA? Are you kidding? I could see her play for USA against Russia, though :tape:

tennisbum79
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:48 PM
Shamil has so many possibilities to players to be on the team.

I think with so many talents, the important and biggest factor is team chemistry.

I am sure will put togther an excellent team with good chemistry. That excellent team may or may not include Sharapova.

As for the US, they better bring Venus and Serena because the current team with all their record of overachieving, will face a very task with the Russian team.

tennisbum79
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:52 PM
For Russia against USA? Are you kidding?
Why are you so surpised?
She is from Russia.
She has played for the team before.

I could see her play for USA against Russia, though :tape:

What makes you say that?
I do not believe she has taken US citizenship.

ce
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:54 PM
Olympics are in 2012

Matt01
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:56 PM
Why are you so surpised?
She is from Russia.
She has played for the team before.



What makes you say that?
I do not believe she has taken US citixenship.


I strongly believe that Sharapova prefers playing in the USA over playing in Russia. That's why I am surprised. And how often did she actually play Fed Cup for Russia? I think it was once :tape:

tennisbum79
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I strongly believe that Sharapova prefers playing in the USA over playing in Russia. That's why I am surprised. And how often did she actually play Fed Cup for Russia? I think it was once :tape:
Well, don't you think she would have vote with her feet by taking US citizenship if she really wanted to play for the USA.

Having grown up in the US, I am sure she has much more affinity to US culture, but she has said elsewhere she always feels russian.

pokey camp
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:03 PM
I strongly believe that Sharapova prefers playing in the USA over playing in Russia.
Well this is right up her alley then since the tie is in the USA. If you meant to use "for" there... she's certainly played for Russia more often than she's played for the US. ;)

In The Zone
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:05 PM
I will hope so. That way, USA has a better chance of winning.

tennisbum79
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:10 PM
I strongly believe that Sharapova prefers playing in the USA over playing in Russia. That's why I am surprised. And how often did she actually play Fed Cup for Russia? I think it was once :tape:
She has never palayed for the USA and she won't play for the USA until she becomes an american citizen.
As for playing for Russian only oce, I think she has pexpressed intrested more than once, but schedule conflicts or may be team chemistry concerns have prevented her from actually being on the final roster.

Matt01
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:13 PM
She has never palayes for the USA and ad she won't play for the USA until she becomes an american citizen.
As for playing for Russian only oce, I think she has pexpressed intrested more than once, but schedule conflicts or may be team chemistry concerns have prevented her from actually being on the final roster.


Sorry, but I don't really believe that. :angel:

tennisbum79
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:41 PM
Sorry, but I don't really believe that. :angel:
Well, you do not have to bwlieve me.
I know for sure she withdrew one time for shouder injury.
Another time, she joined the team as pratice-partner

Yet another time (or maybe the same time), she could not play because there was an understanding that she would alternate with Kuzzy.
Maria aleady having played agains Israel in the semi, it was Kuzzy's turn when the Russians met USA in Moscow

I am not sure why the arrangement was reached, but I suspect it for team chemistry.
Kuzzy does not seem that warm to Sharapova.

darrinbaker00
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:06 AM
She'll play the first-round tie next year to qualify for the Olympics, just like the Williams sisters.

dsanders06
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:14 AM
If by "recruit", you mean "pay her lots of money", then it's maybe a possibility.

Привет
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:18 AM
Well, don't you think she would have vote with her feet by taking US citizenship if she really wanted to play for the USA.

Having grown up in the US, I am sure she has much more affinity to US culture, but she has said elsewhere she always feels russian.

:lol: It is really not that hard to understand. It's a shame most of the morons on here can't quite see it as simply as you. :)

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I would really like the team that NA-GOAT mentioned. I doubt it will happen, but I'd love to see Masha and Serena & Venus play the Fed Cup semi.

ys
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:19 AM
Well, don't you think she would have vote with her feet by taking US citizenship if she really wanted to play for the USA.

Probably she did, but that's irrelevant. Nearly every Russian NHL player eventually gets US citizenship. They still keep playing for Russia. Like Fedorov had it since 1999. So..
I think Maria is well past the point where changing a country to represent would make any sense at all.

duhcity
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:19 AM
I am not sure why the arrangement was reached, but I suspect it for team chemistry.
Kuzzy does not seem that warm to Sharapova.


Sharapova has played Fed Cup, once. She showed up at a Fed Cup Tie only one other time. Both of these Fed Cup Ties were in run-up to the olympics.

Like the WS, Sharapova clearly cares only about Fed Cup when the Olympics roll around.

And having scheduling conflicts is complete BS. Kuznetsova, not originally scheduled to play this weekend, dropped whatever she was doing to play for her country. Sharapova was lunching with her boyfriend in LA this week.

ys
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:27 AM
Like the WS, Sharapova clearly cares only about Fed Cup when the Olympics roll around.
And having scheduling conflicts is complete BS. Kuznetsova, not originally scheduled to play this weekend, dropped whatever she was doing to play for her country. Sharapova was lunching with her boyfriend in LA this week.

FWIW, her career-threatening shoulder injury started during the only tie that she played - in Israel in 2008 - the tie where she played very well. Right after that was where she first complained about her shoulder.. I'd say, - until she fully recovers game-wise she should be left alone.

duhcity
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:30 AM
FWIW, her career-threatening shoulder injury started during the only tie that she played - in Israel in 2008 - the tie where she played very well. Right after that was where she first complained about her shoulder.. I'd say, - until she fully recovers game-wise she should be left alone.

Her camp released a statement last year saying her shoulder injury was traced to a specific point during Indian Wells in either 08 or 07. :rolleyes:

I like the girl, really. But like Serena and Venus, it's an uphill battle defending their Fed Cup records. Even more so for Maria, being that the WS played Fed Cup early in their careers

JJandAna4ever
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:33 AM
I came to America was I was 10 years old. I'm now 20 and I feel more American than I do my own country. She came when she was 6 years old and is 23 now. I find it hard to believe that she feels more "Russian." Her decision to remain a Russian citizen is likely more influence by layers of financial decisions that comes with it, like tax plans, fan support, and the overall image.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:41 AM
I think he should. She only plays Charleston (10th April) and Madrid (7th May) after Miami, so she has enough time to play Fed Cup, imo!:)
If she comes up with a "scheduling conflict" or sth like that, I call it :bs:

ys
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:44 AM
I came to America was I was 10 years old. I'm now 20 and I feel more American than I do my own country. She came when she was 6 years old and is 23 now. I find it hard to believe that she feels more "Russian." Her decision to remain a Russian citizen is likely more influence by layers of financial decisions that comes with it, like tax plans, fan support, and the overall image.

People differ. I live here for more than 12 years. I never watched an NFL or baseball or NBA game or Oscar show or Oprah show or any MTV. You name it. I don't watch US TV at all. I don't even have it at home. I haven't gone to a theater to see American movie for 2 years at least. And I do not support US teams in any sports at this point. I still feel at least as much Russian as American. So it really depends.

Infiniti2001
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:38 AM
Her camp released a statement last year saying her shoulder injury was traced to a specific point during Indian Wells in either 08 or 07. :rolleyes:

I like the girl, really. But like Serena and Venus, it's an uphill battle defending their Fed Cup records. Even more so for Maria, being that the WS played Fed Cup early in their careers

You better check Venus Fed Cup record before dissing her :rolleyes:

Infiniti2001
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:39 AM
People differ. I live here for more than 12 years. I never watched an NFL or baseball or NBA game or Oscar show or Oprah show or any MTV. You name it. I don't watch US TV at all. I don't even have it at home. I haven't gone to a theater to see American movie for 2 years at least. And I do not support US teams in any sports at this point. I still feel at least as much Russian as American. So it really depends.

When was the last time you left the US ys? :tape:

duhcity
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:42 AM
You better check Venus Fed Cup record before dissing her :rolleyes:

psst, I like Venus Willams.
I'm saying that there's no way to refute that the WS and Maria Sharapova do not regard Fed Cup as highly as other players, and that there is no reason to make an excuse for them.
I said it was harder to defend Maria because the WS actually have stellar Fed Cup records even though they have not played frequently for the past few years.

Kay?


And to below, yes I wasn't completely right. I am referring to recently. In the past 4-5 years. The WS's interest (especially Serena) has definitely declined in the last few years. I again recognize their stellar Fed Cup record, but it's clear that in recent times they have not been as committed to the competition.

tennisbum79
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:55 AM
Like the WS, Sharapova clearly cares only about Fed Cup when the Olympics roll around.
I wish you can check the fact before making such sweeping statement.
Venus has made many appearence with Fed Cup, with BJK, Zina Garrison.
Sometimes against her best judgement( right after Wimby, for example)
MJF just started.

It easy tempting to make a case agasint the WS, but having facts backing up the arguments one makes would be nice.

tennisbum79
Feb 8th, 2010, 05:04 AM
Probably she did, but that's irrelevant. Nearly every Russian NHL player eventually gets US citizenship. They still keep playing for Russia. Like Fedorov had it since 1999. So..
I think Maria is well past the point where changing a country to represent would make any sense at all.
You're missing the point.
The post I am responding to made the point that Maria really prefers to play for the US, inferring she is not really interested in playing for Russia.

My point is, if she really wanted to play for the US, she would taken the first step to doing that by becoming a citizen first.

Your rebutal with the NHL players becoming citizen and still playing for Russia is not analogical to this point. You are simply saying, becoming US citizen did not stop them from playing for their country of origin.

tennisbum79
Feb 8th, 2010, 05:22 AM
People differ. I live here for more than 12 years. I never watched an NFL or baseball or NBA game or Oscar show or Oprah show or any MTV. You name it. I don't watch US TV at all. I don't even have it at home. I haven't gone to a theater to see American movie for 2 years at least. And I do not support US teams in any sports at this point. I still feel at least as much Russian as American. So it really depends.
So you get all you news from Russian newsoutlets.
Hard to believe, but I take you at your words.

Do you have family here in the US?
If you have kids, how do you keep them from watching American TV.

It looks like Russian in Russia watch more American TV than you do?
As a tennis fan, where do you watch USO, RG, Wimbledon and AO?
On Russian TV?

AcesHigh
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:00 AM
psst, I like Venus Willams.
I'm saying that there's no way to refute that the WS and Maria Sharapova do not regard Fed Cup as highly as other players, and that there is no reason to make an excuse for them.
I said it was harder to defend Maria because the WS actually have stellar Fed Cup records even though they have not played frequently for the past few years.

Kay?


And to below, yes I wasn't completely right. I am referring to recently. In the past 4-5 years. The WS's interest (especially Serena) has definitely declined in the last few years. I again recognize their stellar Fed Cup record, but it's clear that in recent times they have not been as committed to the competition.

Bullshit, Venus (until Zina left) has played Fed Cup as much as her body would allow, often to the detriment of her results.

ys
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:35 AM
When was the last time you left the US ys? :tape:

A month ago. And the next time is in two weeks. I like to travel. :)

ys
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:38 AM
So you get all you news from Russian newsoutlets.

No. I get them online as well as from newspapers. I never said I don't read newspapers.

As a tennis fan, where do you watch USO, RG, Wimbledon and AO?
On Russian TV?

Yes.

ED fan forever
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:39 AM
I imagine the Russian team may be Sharapova, Kleybanova, Dementieva and Pavlyuchenkova

If that was to be the team, it would read Dementieva, Sharapova, Kleybanova and Pavlyuchenkova.
I don't see it happening though-2012 Olympics is still far away.

Saula
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:06 AM
She should totally play. Go RUSSIA.

Pureracket
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:34 AM
I came to America was I was 10 years old. I'm now 20 and I feel more American than I do my own country. She came when she was 6 years old and is 23 now. I find it hard to believe that she feels more "Russian." Her decision to remain a Russian citizen is likely more influence by layers of financial decisions that comes with it, like tax plans, fan support, and the overall image. Why this isn't obvious to every single person in this thread baffles me.

tennisbum79
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:30 PM
No. I get them online as well as from newspapers. I never said I don't read newspapers..
Well, you are a paradox to me.
You are so adament about not watching american TV, inferring as if it were something dirty, that I was inclined to assume it extends to any medium US touches. And the internet is largely driven by the USA.

The other reason I think you come accross as a paradox is that you don't sound that old, and yet you behave like an older first generation immigrant in the US. They want nothing to do with American culture because they it would contaminate them and their children, despite having decided to live for good.

Lastly, you come accross sometimes as chauvisnistic about Russia, yet, you'd like to travel and (even enjoy) other countries.

Last question.
Just out of curiosity.
What is it about American TV, that is so repugnant to you?

babsi
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:56 PM
I think this answer's the topic's question:
Hey Masha, will you play in the Fed Cup match vs Serbia in Belgrade ??
Fed Cup is not on my schedule this year. Coming back from shoulder surgery I need to be very careful. I really enjoyed my Fed Cup experience and I look forward to playing in the future.

Wannabeknowitall
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:16 PM
makes perfect sense

Russia's other top players are injured (Safina)or already did favor to play 1st round (Kuznetsova)

Maria need to play Fed Cup to make herself eligable for 2010 Olympics, which for sure she want to play since on grass courts of Wimbledon

the tie will be held in USA, which is home for Maria :spit:

and plus Maria gets a chance to revenge Oudin :devil:


I imagine the Russian team may be Sharapova, Kleybanova, Dementieva and Pavlyuchenkova

Well if she isn't eligible for the 2010 Olympics now she won't be in the next few days, will she? :p

The problem with Sharapova is that for a player of her stature who isn't use to playing on green clay of Charleston, she's gonna be sore.
This is a surface I've seen Justine slip and slide on at times.

So I don't expect to see her there.

ys
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:37 AM
Well, you are a paradox to me.
You are so adament about not watching american TV, inferring as if it were something dirty, that I was inclined to assume it extends to any medium US touches. And the internet is largely driven by the USA.


Correction. I am not watching any TV, pretty much. All I watch on TV is a little bit of sports - tennis, European soccer, some winter sports. The standard American TV package that would include that would cost me $80. For what? For turning TV on once every weekend? And as I am in Cablevision, NYC area, it would not even include The Tennis Channel. So, I am staying with Russian online subscription for $20 for rolling 30 days. With 25 channels. Including all sports that I'd ever need.
And I definitely do not have time in my life for regular TV.. As most of American biggest TV shows are insult to intelligence ( of course, Russian equivalents are probably 10 times worse ).. And what else would you watch? News? I can get the same amount of information from reading for 1 minute on CNN website as from 30 minutes of their airtime. And I would be spared from having to watch their stupid ads. What else? While we are here, what do you watch?


They want nothing to do with American culture because they it would contaminate them and their children, despite having decided to live for good.

Define "American culture". I know few professors from good universities ( guys are Americans ) and their lifestyle in terms of entertainment is very similar to mine. So, it is just a matter of taste and has nothing to do with a country of origin.

Lastly, you come accross sometimes as chauvisnistic about Russia, yet, you'd like to travel and (even enjoy) other countries.


Me? "Chauvinistic" about Russia? :lol: I am "chauvinistic" for any team I support. Russia in tennis and soccer. South Africa in rugby and cricket. And not much else. I'd take GWB over VVP any day.. :)

Illusionist
Feb 9th, 2010, 01:28 AM
He doesn't really need her. I mean if Williams sisters don't play, they won't even need any of the top10 players. :shrug:

JJandAna4ever
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:40 AM
People differ. I live here for more than 12 years. I never watched an NFL or baseball or NBA game or Oscar show or Oprah show or any MTV. You name it. I don't watch US TV at all. I don't even have it at home. I haven't gone to a theater to see American movie for 2 years at least. And I do not support US teams in any sports at this point. I still feel at least as much Russian as American. So it really depends.

Can I ask what age were you when you came here? I think anyone over 14 is going to retain a large part of their original culture and it's reasonable believe it when they say that they don't feel American. What you just listed are material things, there are more to being American than that stuff.

But with Sharapova...she came when she was six. I believe that she enrolled in Boleterri's boarding school. What memory of Russia and her relatives could she possibly have? Also, unless her parents lives in a totally Russian neighborhood, her home life probably has American influences as well.

s_j
Feb 9th, 2010, 06:52 AM
Why do people care so much about Maria's nationality? She was born in Russia, it is her first language and she has a Russian passport. Her family is Russian, she still speaks Russian and she has a lot of emotional ties to Russia (eg. Chenobyl, Sochi...)

Svetlana Kuznetsova spent many of her childhood years in Spain (if I'm not mistaken), but that doesn't make her Spanish. What is so wrong with Maria wanting to carry on representing her birth/blood country? Imagine if she did change her citizenship, people would be moaning and criticising about that too so she can't win. I'm glad she's sticking to her roots. I mean, Monica Seles and Martina Navratilova are hardly American, are they?