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Si_Hi
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:45 PM
well, i mean they are all great champions with great play styles, all of them:worship:
they all earned their crown by hard work in a fortnight.
but isn't it interesting to see who was the luckiest to win a grand slam?:devil::lol:

1. Iva Majoli | 1 Win, 5 QFs
2. Anastasia Myskina | 1 Win, 5 QFs
3. Ana Ivanovic | 1 Win, 2 Fs, 1 SF, 1 QF (overall, she has made QF only 5 times :tape: but her career isn't over yet :p )
4. Conchita Martínez | 1 Win, 2 Fs, 9 SFs, 3 QFs
5. Jana Novotná | 1 Win, 3 Fs. 5 SFs, 13 QFs

i think 4 options are enough...right? :lol:

Vanity Bonfire
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:47 PM
Kerry Melville Reid.

EDIT: I take that back. She's amaze.

Uranium
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:47 PM
Chris O'Neil and Barbara Jordan.

The Daviator
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:47 PM
There is no worst, at the time they won they all deserved it.

Ana is an absolute mess now, but nobody can take her achievements away from her, and the same goes for any other player, she once was a very good player! :lol:

Si_Hi
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:51 PM
Chris O'Neil and Barbara Jordan.

and Virginia Ruzici:lol:
choose one after 70s :devil:

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:52 PM
Graf.

frenchie
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:55 PM
OMG not again....

#kArLoS#
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:56 PM
Ana Ivanovic.Lucky that Justine has just retired and dont forget she had Safina in the final

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:58 PM
There is no worst, at the time they won they all deserved it.

Ana is an absolute mess now, but nobody can take her achievements away from her, and the same goes for any other player, she once was a very good player! :lol:

Exactly. Threads that are designed to denigrate Grand Slam champions don't deserve a great deal of respect. Particularly this one where it is very clear that the poster did not do their research properly, perhaps because doing so would have provided an answer he or she wasn't looking for. The very obvious correct answer by the way is what Uranium wrote here. Although even they deserved their titles and don't deserve to be involved in stupid pointless threads like this.

Chris O'Neil and Barbara Jordan.

miffedmax
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:00 PM
Chris O'Neil and Barbara Jordan.

Yeah. If your memory doesn't go back before 2000, (nothing wrong with that) either glance through Wikipedia or put some kind of a disclaimer to indicate you're referencing your own memory.

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:01 PM
and Virginia Ruzici:lol:
choose one after 70s :devil:

You have already fucked up with your original post which won't give you the answer you were looking for so you change the question. Very clever and mature.

Why don't you choose one after the 70s? And when you have done so, go away and leave the rest of us alone. :devil:

Nikkiri
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:02 PM
There is no worst, at the time they won they all deserved it.

Ana is an absolute mess now, but nobody can take her achievements away from her, and the same goes for any other player, she once was a very good player! :lol:

This.

How sad.

AcesHigh
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:03 PM
These were all great players. Go back further and you'll find much worse.

Si_Hi
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:04 PM
Exactly. Threads that a designed to denigrate Grand Slam champions don't deserve a great deal of respect. Particularly this one where it is very clear that the poster did not do their research properly, perhaps because doing so would have provided an answer he or she wasn't looking for. The very obvious correct answer by the way is what Uranium write here. Although even they deserved their titles and don't deserve to be involved in stupid pointless threads like this.

it's just a thread to make ana play better:rolleyes: you are too serious tho :lol:
you don't get that it came up everytime ana plays like today ;)

Costanza
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:04 PM
Ana Ivanovic.Lucky that Justine has just retired and dont forget she had Safina in the final

Yeah right.Henin in 2008:help:

Si_Hi
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:07 PM
You have already fucked up with your original post which won't give you the answer you were looking for so you change the question. Very clever and mature.

Why don't you choose one after the 70s? And when you have done so, go away and leave the rest of us alone. :devil:

an angry monster:sad::lol:

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:10 PM
an angry monster:sad::lol:

I don't like trolls okay?

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:10 PM
Yeah right.Henin in 2008...

... would've ripped Ivanovic a new one.

Si_Hi
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:14 PM
I don't like trolls okay?

you clearly hate people supporting their favors, shame. :worship: :p

Safe-From-Harm
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:19 PM
I suppose that inspiration of opening this thread was Ana's play those days, or should I say yesterday/today on Fed Cup?
Anyway, I think that she seems like someone who have never be in top-10, it's scary to say no.1 or GS winner.
I hope she will recover. Unfortunatly she and Iva got my votes.

Helen Lawson
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:30 PM
Great thread! I love topics like this. Myskina was high rank no. 2, Iva never got that high, so Iva it is. Ivanovic may suck now, but was better than the other 2 at her peak.

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:35 PM
you clearly hate people supporting their favors, shame. :worship: :p

If you think threads like this support your so-claimed "favors" you are not only a troll but sadly delusional too.

Juanes
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:37 PM
you are soo bad at Ana....

goldenlox
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:39 PM
There are many weaker than those 3, like Jordan.
A lot of players didnt travel to Australia.
Lendl started the idea that slam totals are everything.

Si_Hi
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:40 PM
If you think threads like this support your so-claimed "favors" you are not only a troll but sadly delusional too.

:tape: i think i better shut up since you started showing ur desire to bite :spit:
you are so funny, keep going :yeah:

Costanza
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:48 PM
... would've ripped Ivanovic a new one.

So why Henin wasn't at RG?
Divorcing Pierre-Yves or what...

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:52 PM
Yeah right;)

I'm glad you're wise enough to accept it. :yeah:

Oh, how sad... Now you've edited your post I have to take my kind words back. And I was gonna good rep you... :sad:

Costanza
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:57 PM
I'm glad you're wise enough to accept it. :yeah:

So,according to you, Henin was destined to win RG 2008?:lol:

Nicolás89
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:57 PM
O'neil?

Out of the poll definitely Myskina.

Nicolás89
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:00 PM
well, i mean they are all great champions with great play styles, all of them:worship:
they all earned their crown by hard work in a fortnight.
but isn't it interesting to see who was the luckiest to win a grand slam?:devil::lol:

1. Iva Majoli | 1 Win, 5 QFs
2. Anastasia Myskina | 1 Win, 5 QFs
3. Ana Ivanovic | 1 Win, 2 Fs, 1 SF, 1 QF (overall, she has made QF only 5 times :tape: but her career isn't over yet :p )
4. Conchita Martínez | 1 Win, 2 Fs, 9 SFs, 3 QFs
5. Jana Novotná | 1 Win, 3 Fs. 5 SFs, 13 QFs

i think 4 options are enough...right? :lol:

That's better than most of the top 10. :shrug:

Costanza
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:00 PM
you are soo bad at Ana....

And surprise,surprise, Ana get most votes from Jankovic&Demented fans:spit:

Cp6uja
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:04 PM
3. Ana Ivanovic | 1 Win, 2 Fs, 1 SF, 1 QF (overall, she has made QF only 5 times :tape: but her career isn't over yet :p )
You must be really stupid or have no clue about tennis to put in poll like this player which reach 3 GS finals in less than 13 months and which is enough good to reach WTA#1 mostly thanks to her GS results (has W-F-4R-SF in her 52-weeks record when that happen)... even if her career is really over. And for that (official "end" of Ana) You should wait at least couple years because if we look at about 2.000.000.000 people which is born younger than Ana Ivanovic from our planet - they all together still reach less GS finals than Ana Ivanovic alone (1xWozniacki and 1xDel Potro) and same number of GS titles (1xDel Potro).

Ana not beat any TOP10 player more than 15 months which is only fact about her current state, not how she was good (or "bad") when won that title - but in 2007-2008 period her h2h record vs TOP10 was 20-12 (at slams 7-2). She is multiple tier-I winner which is probably irrelevant for this story with one important exception - 4 slams is actually not only WTA two-week 128 draw tournaments with dayPlay/dayPause schedule - other two big events are Miami and Indian Wells and Ana there also has big success with one title and one final (both at IW) which also talking how "bad" was she on her peak in past.

i think 4 options are enough...right? :lol:For Your information grand slams tournaments in tennis has big tradition (since XIX century) and for example Australian Open before 80's has very often winners which never belong to worlds TOP10 of that year by any objective criteria (simple other best players not compete).

GeeTee
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:11 PM
Australian Open before 80's has twice winners which never belong to worlds TOP10
fixed that for u

Cp6uja
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:38 PM
fixed that for uI'm talking about AO overall including pre-open era - so before 80'is not mean only about weak 1978 and 1979 winners. Famous is example of player Reitano which compete in late 50'is which played AO about 10 times and only once lose before SF (has 2 AO titles) and at other 3 slams reach just once QF. Or also famous example of Thelma Coyne Long which reach first AO SF like schoolgirl in 1936 and last final like housewife in 1956 winning AO twice from 6 finals - but in 25 years long career also never reach nothing better than QF at other 3 slams. No doubt that in this days two-weeks tournaments in Miami or Indian Wells is more relevant than Australian Open before 80's.

Vincey!
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:56 PM
I would say Myskina.. Ana is the only other one that I know, but as much as I know, Ana did more in 2 years than what Myskina did in her whole career. Ana and Myskina had to deal with the same players too, so I think they are both comparable. Ana had more title than Myskina and she has 2 more finals, so Ana is definetly better than Myskina. Moreover, Ana is still playing so she still can improve that ( even though it's not looking good at the moment lol) but Myskina retired early so to me she's the worse of the two, as I said those are the only one I can really comment :p

GeeTee
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:08 PM
I'm talking about AO overall including pre-open era
well this thread is about 'worst Slam winner in the Open era'....

Still in answer to your point, Thelma Long did have a long career but (even overlooking the six years she missed in her prime during World War II), she was only able to compete in overseas slams a grand total of THREE times before she was aged 30.

That she was able to reach the QF at the French (aged 33) and Wimbledon and the US (aged 34) plus two overseas Slams doubles finals (aged 40) should indicate she was extremely talented, just extremely unlucky.

Hurley
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:44 PM
None of the above, since, as many have pointed out, the Australian Open had some TERRIBLE winners ranked very low, much worse than the specified choices.

So this thread is just awful.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:52 PM
I would say Myskina.. Ana is the only other one that I know, but as much as I know, Ana did more in 2 years than what Myskina did in her whole career. Ana and Myskina had to deal with the same players too

Especially in the slams they won. Cetkovska/Schnyder/Jankovic/Safina are exactly the same players as Kuznetsova/Venus/Capriati/Dementieva.

Ana had more title than Myskina

Don't know what it's supposed to mean but it's not true.

bobcat
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:19 PM
Chris O'Neil would be much much worse than any of those listed. She never got past the 3rd round at any of the other slams, and the year she won the AO it was only a 32 player draw, compared to 128 (or maybe slightly less if the top seeds have byes) player draws at Wimbledon and USO.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:13 AM
There is no worst, at the time they won they all deserved it.

Ana is an absolute mess now, but nobody can take her achievements away from her, and the same goes for any other player, she once was a very good player! :lol:

Exactly.

Lord Choc Ice
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:03 AM
Iva Majoli. Out of that poll.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:48 AM
it takes a lot to win a slam so kudos to whoever does...you may not like who wins but if you play by the rules and you when then you deserve it...


unless you won RG in 2003 :shrug:

Lord Choc Ice
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:54 AM
it takes a lot to win a slam so kudos to whoever does...you may not like who wins but if you play by the rules and you when then you deserve it...


unless you won RG in 2003 :shrug:
:rolls:

Nicolás89
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:57 AM
it takes a lot to win a slam so kudos to whoever does...you may not like who wins but if you play by the rules and you when then you deserve it...


unless you won RG in 2003 :shrug:

Yep, no rule was vroken there. :shrug:

miffedmax
Feb 8th, 2010, 02:00 AM
Yes, but some slam wins are more impressive than others. Some slam wins from the '70s and early '80s are, quite frankly, less impressive than winning Miami or even some smaller tournaments are today, and even today injuries and weird results can lead to some pretty unimpressive wins. That's why I have never been one to just go "Oh, so-and-and-so won a slam, they must be great" or "Oh, what's his/her face never won a slam, they were failures." Slams, like anything else, go in a context of a career. They may be one or more of the biggest jewels in your crown, and they are always big jewels, but they're part of something bigger.

Justin
Feb 8th, 2010, 02:45 AM
Chris O'Neil

Si_Hi
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:40 AM
You must be really stupid or have no clue about tennis to put in poll like this player which reach 3 GS finals in less than 13 months and which is enough good to reach WTA#1 mostly thanks to her GS results (has W-F-4R-SF in her 52-weeks record when that happen)... even if her career is really over. And for that (official "end" of Ana) You should wait at least couple years because if we look at about 2.000.000.000 people which is born younger than Ana Ivanovic from our planet - they all together still reach less GS finals than Ana Ivanovic alone (1xWozniacki and 1xDel Potro) and same number of GS titles (1xDel Potro).

Ana not beat any TOP10 player more than 15 months which is only fact about her current state, not how she was good (or "bad") when won that title - but in 2007-2008 period her h2h record vs TOP10 was 20-12 (at slams 7-2). She is multiple tier-I winner which is probably irrelevant for this story with one important exception - 4 slams is actually not only WTA two-week 128 draw tournaments with dayPlay/dayPause schedule - other two big events are Miami and Indian Wells and Ana there also has big success with one title and one final (both at IW) which also talking how "bad" was she on her peak in past.

For Your information grand slams tournaments in tennis has big tradition (since XIX century) and for example Australian Open before 80's has very often winners which never belong to worlds TOP10 of that year by any objective criteria (simple other best players not compete).

i'm not saying that ana is not a good player. in fact, her career(altho not over yet) is already the way far more brilliant than a million of tennis players on the planet. even compared to how she's playing now, many people in the world can't play as well as that.
but she's a champion. a grand slam champion and a no.1 player. she definitely was able and should have played better than how she has played recently. and if she keeps dropping the level she once played, it's really expected that people will be more and more wonder that she won the grand slam by chance tho we all know she has played somewhat wonderful and aggressive tennis games once back in 2007 and early 2008.
ana fans really don't need to defend her, she got what she deserved (a grand slam title); but if she keeps playing like this, AMONG those winners, she won't be as brilliant as others for sure.

Cp6uja
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:59 AM
i'm not saying that ana is not a good player. in fact, her career(altho not over yet) is already the way far more brilliant than a million of tennis players on the planet. even compared to how she's playing now, many people in the world can't play as well as that.
but she's a champion. a grand slam champion and a no.1 player. she definitely was able and should have played better than how she has played recently. and if she keeps dropping the level she once played, it's really expected that people will be more and more wonder that she won the grand slam by chance tho we all know she has played somewhat wonderful and aggressive tennis games once back in 2007 and early 2008.
ana fans really don't need to defend her, she got what she deserved (a grand slam title); but if she keeps playing like this, AMONG those winners, she won't be as brilliant as others for sure.You put 2nd youngest GS champion in world (after Del Potro) and 3rd Youngest GS finalist (after Wozniacki and Del Potro) in same poll with two former players which both together has less Grand Slam finals or GS semifinals or GS TOP10 wins than Ana, and also Myskina+Majoli (QF, W+QF, QF, QF) career best results is better only at USO out of 4 slams than Ivanovic career best (F, W+F, SF, 4R).

Especially in the slams they won. Cetkovska(Wozniacki)/Schnyder/Jankovic/Safina are exactly the same players as Kuznetsova/Venus/Capriati/Dementieva.Jankovic and Safina from 2008 is better claycourt players than any of this 4 in 2004 which only should to be count when we compare two RG titles from 2004 and 2008.

Szavay #1
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:47 AM
there are tons of players who would kill for iva, nastya or ana's career so there's nothing "worst" about their slams wins. at all.

thegreendestiny
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:12 AM
Flukevanovic did not beat a single slam winner to get her RG. :shrug:
She only had to face her bitch JJ and mental midget Safina to claim it.
Post-RG results pretty much sums up the kind of player she is.

mure
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:36 AM
Flukevanovic did not beat a single slam winner to get her RG. :shrug:
She only had to face her bitch JJ and mental midget Safina to claim it.
Post-RG results pretty much sums up the kind of player she is.

So if she had beaten Mauresmo and Venus Williams instead of Safina and Jankovic that would have been a valid victory?What a load of bs.

Jekyll
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:48 AM
arantxa Sanchez vicario :tape:

cehowardrx7
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:49 AM
Wow! Where do you all find these way out topics from???

In my humble old opinion, there is no such animal as a WORST GRAND SLAM WINNER!! All the winners DESERVE the win no matter what.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Authur Ashe won ONE grand slam, and he is a LEGEND, he has got a whole stadium named after him, and in the Tennis Hall of Fame!

So Disrespectful
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:53 AM
Ana. If she doesn't regain her form she'll be the worst slam winner in the open era. She did play very well prior to winning RG of course, but I can't think of any slam winner who has subsequently sucked so badly (and so early in her career). It's bizzare.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:59 AM
Wow! Where do you all find these way out topics from???

In my humble old opinion, there is no such animal as a WORST GRAND SLAM WINNER!! All the winners DESERVE the win no matter what.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Authur Ashe won ONE grand slam, and he is a LEGEND, he has got a whole stadium named after him, and in the Tennis Hall of Fame!

Ashe won three slams and was runner-up at another four slams.

The Witch-king
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:13 AM
Ana winning something!! :dancing:

VishaalMaria
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:17 AM
So if she had beaten Mauresmo and Venus Williams instead of Safina and Jankovic that would have been a valid victory?What a load of bs.

LOL! I think Ana facing Venus at Roland Garros 08 would have been so much easier than Jelena Jankvovic ironically.

tennisvideos
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:18 AM
Chris O'Neil is a very dear friend of mine, in fact she recently gave me her tickets to this years Aussie Open. So I find this thread highly offensive and I pray that she, and the other players mentioned her, never find out about his.

She treasures her Aussie Open and to think people try to denigrate these professionals who put their hearts and souls into the sport - while coach potatoes sit back and type how weak or bad they were. :rolleyes:

Highly distasteful and I hope this thread is deleted. :tape:

Cookie Power
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:31 AM
Ivanovic obviously. I never could stand that giant headed, ajde-yelling moose.

I'm really, really pleased to see her failing now. I love it when bad things happen to people I don't like.

The Witch-king
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:42 AM
Chris O'Neil is a very dear friend of mine, in fact she recently gave me her tickets to this years Aussie Open.
:)
Hi... How are you? What's your name? :hug: :drool:

miffedmax
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Chris O'Neil is a very dear friend of mine, in fact she recently gave me her tickets to this years Aussie Open. So I find this thread highly offensive and I pray that she, and the other players mentioned her, never find out about his.

She treasures her Aussie Open and to think people try to denigrate these professionals who put their hearts and souls into the sport - while coach potatoes sit back and type how weak or bad they were. :rolleyes:

Highly distasteful and I hope this thread is deleted. :tape:

Yes, because in the entire history of discussing tennis, terms like "one-slam wonder" and "fluke slam winners" have never come up before this thread was started...

Like the old saying goes, better a one hit wonder than a never was. But like the other old saying, once could be a coincidence. Twice, and maybe I'm starting to see a pattern.

Helen Lawson
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:29 AM
I take it as a badge of honor when they call me the worst Oscar winner of the 50s and I was nothing but melodrama queen. Better to be trashed than forgotten.

Illusionist
Feb 9th, 2010, 02:31 AM
Iva Majoli... Ana is only 22 atm, so she has enough time to prove you wrong :shrug:

dsanders06
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:06 AM
Sue Barker French Open 1976

Career Highlights: defeated Renee' Richards in Pittsburgh, PA in 1979 in "straight" sets. Wimbledon once and two-time Australian Open semifinalist in the mid 70's.

Um excuse me? Us Brits know that Sue is off-limits.

miffedmax
Feb 9th, 2010, 03:12 AM
Barker ended up with 11 titles and wins over such contemporaries as Evert, Navratilova, Bueno, Goolagong-Cawley, and King.

Not even close to being as bad as some of the others mentioned.

PlayByPlay
Feb 9th, 2010, 05:20 AM
I have not a clue couldn't tell you.

cehowardrx7
Feb 9th, 2010, 07:19 AM
Ashe won three slams and was runner-up at another four slams.


Thanks for the correction!! :)

MaBaker
Feb 9th, 2010, 10:41 AM
There is no worst, at the time they won they all deserved it.

Ana is an absolute mess now, but nobody can take her achievements away from her, and the same goes for any other player, she once was a very good player! :lol:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2lcagq0.gif

Beat
Feb 9th, 2010, 10:43 AM
There is no worst, at the time they won they all deserved it.

this.

The Witch-king
Feb 9th, 2010, 11:40 AM
Um excuse me? Us Brits know that Sue is off-limits.

sue "i think you've thanked everybody now" barker

Chrissie-fan
Feb 10th, 2010, 01:54 AM
Barker ended up with 11 titles and wins over such contemporaries as Evert, Navratilova, Bueno, Goolagong-Cawley, and King.

Not even close to being as bad as some of the others mentioned.
Plus she had an awesome forehand when she was on. Barker was a good player.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Feb 10th, 2010, 02:05 AM
Caroline Wozniacki if someday wins one

Sund7101
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:02 AM
Ivanovic-beat Schynder, Jankovic, and Safina

Majoli- beat Davenport, Coetzer, and Hingis

Myskina- beat Venus, Capriati, and Dementieva

Majoli and Myskina had some big wins over great players, whereas Ana took advantage of a very easy draw. Either way they are all grand slam champions, and more than likely Ana will join the list of one-slam wonders.

miffedmax
Feb 10th, 2010, 03:15 AM
Much as I would love to dog Ivanovic, Safina had just taken out Sharapova and Kuzzy, and at least managed to hold it together during Lena's meltdown...:tape: she looked to be more of a challenge and a lot of people thought she might be better prepared to win on clay--though it's also arguable that she was too worn out to present much of a challenge to anyone she might have faced in a final.

dsanders06
Feb 10th, 2010, 04:05 AM
Ivanovic-beat Schynder, Jankovic, and Safina

Majoli- beat Davenport, Coetzer, and Hingis

Myskina- beat Venus, Capriati, and Dementieva

Majoli and Myskina had some big wins over great players, whereas Ana took advantage of a very easy draw. Either way they are all grand slam champions, and more than likely Ana will join the list of one-slam wonders.

Venus on clay is hardly a big scalp, and beating Dementieva in a Grand Slam final isn't much to write home about either.