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The Kaz
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:08 PM
Aga :tape: :o

EPIC CHOKE!!!! She was up 6-3 in the 2nd set tiebreak and blew 3 Match points.

Nina blew 2 MPs in that last game but regrouped and won the 3rd :)

Its now 2-1 to a Henin/Clijsters-less Belgium :D

GrandMartha
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:09 PM
disgusting

Andreas
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:10 PM
:( Aga won 12 points more! Another lucky 3 sets win for Yanina.

gumoll
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:10 PM
:sobbing:

luck was with Yanina in this match :ras: :fiery:

3h and 36 min of a really good match :yeah:

Otlichno
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:10 PM
Are you f**king serious Aga!!?? :help: :tape:

ED fan forever
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:10 PM
Haha yesterday I was only saying how Yanina had never beaten a top 10 player.
I suppose this counts but Agnieszka is easily the worst top 10 player at the moment.
Still, good win for Yanina;)

Chrissie-fan
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
First win against a top 10 player, right? Congrats Yanina. :)

The Kaz
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
:sobbing:

luck was with Yanina in this match :ras: :fiery:

3h and 36 min of a really good match :yeah:

The official time was only 2h 58m ;)

Natash.
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
Entertaining match. Radwanska was playing quite aggressive but now good luck to Marta :hug: :scared:

Emiel Goelen
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
Yanina! Great fight! :worship:

Broseghini
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
Radwanska :lol:

:smash:

The Crow
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
lol How did she win that match?

Not deserved, Aga was clearly the better player, but she dug in there and played better on keypoints! Well done!

Kim's_fan_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM
Agnieszka had MPs? :tape: Oh my :crying2: At least she has great stats: 53 winners to only 27UEs. It's 52 to 52 for Wickmayer.

saul1333
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Aga played and served well..just not on the big points :sobbing:

play2win_win4fun
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:12 PM
:haha::rolls::happy: really stupid from Aga!

olivero
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:13 PM
amazing fight from Yanina. Congrats. Her serve on BPs was outstanding!

Aga played very well but has became such a headcase lately :bigcry:
SO MANY BPs wasted!! This should've ended 6-1 6-3 :weirdo:
:hug: her confidence must be equal to zero now

gumoll
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:13 PM
The official time was only 2h 58m ;)

true :lol:

dunno where they took that 3:36 :lol: :rolls:

Martian Jeza
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:13 PM
Aahh all those headcases/chokers in the WTA :help: Did I dream of Aga led 6-1, 3-0 ? Very nice for Belgium but yet Yanina lucky to get away with it.

Nicolas
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:14 PM
Really underseved win :help:

Come on Domachowska now!!!!!!

Uranus
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:14 PM
It wasn't such a good match. Yanina was bad at the beginning. She's known to be a high-percentage player and still a hard-hitter. But anytime she tried to be aggressive, she missed. She became decent down 61 3-0. Then she managed to keep it competitive, saved those MPs in the TB and won it. The 3rd set was a chokefest. Many breaks of serve. Yanina squandered a 4-2 lead, then Aga failed to serve it out at 5-4. And the Belgian finally emerged. We can only admire her great fighting spirit.

Another surprising stat is Aga's BP conversion: 8/34. No wonder she lost it. Yanina came back from 0-40 several times, mostly with big serves.

Go Flipper now!

Slutiana
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:14 PM
Awfulness. Aga, that was just disgraceful. :help: I've never particularly thought of her as a choker but WOW. :help: And Wickmayer is just so bloody annoying, go away manshoulders.

Cmon Marta! :bigcry::sobbing:

Freakan
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:14 PM
I knew she would lose that match after she won the 1st set. And it was even more obvious yesterday that Domachowska would lose after winning the 1st set.

muniu
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:14 PM
winners-Ue's

69-21 Aga
74-36 Wicky

Aga, epic choke :worship:

Adrian.
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Aga:tears:

Now Marta has to win:sobbing::tears:

Slutiana
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Agnieszka had MPs? :tape: Oh my :crying2: At least she has great stats: 53 winners to only 27UEs. It's 52 to 52 for Wickmayer.
That was one of the most undeserved wins EVER. :help:

Break My Rapture
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:16 PM
I was really impressed with how Agnieszka played, so agressive. I think she deserved to win more than Yanina actually, but congrats. Yanina had so much luck. :tears:

tennis-insomniac
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:16 PM
yanina was such a fiter aga played incredible tennis but her immaturity caused her the match
Great Match girls Congrats to Yanina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqb-dmUm0hY

Kim's_fan_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:16 PM
winners-Ue's

69-21 Aga
74-36 Wicky

Aga, epic choke :worship:

Where did you take this from? Fed Cup official website has "slightly" different stats :lol:

#kArLoS#
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Nina:worship::woohoo:.Thanks for believing,thanks for never give up.First win against a top player,in a crazy crazy match.She was down 61 30* 40-15* and managed to survive:eek::worship:.Every service game was a war,altough it helped that Radwanska´s Bps were atrocious.In the 3rd she led *4-2 deuce but she suddenly collpased and let Radwanska serve for the match,but she broke her and had 40-15 on her own serve but it was deuce,AD Nina,deuce,AD Nina and game.In the last match,she had 15-40 and another AD before Radwanska had her GP(which was wasted with DF)In the next MP(#4),Yanina hit a BH winner and she won:inlove:
Let´s hope Flipper can finsih it:kiss:

Chrissie-fan
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Aahh all those headcases/chokers in the WTA :help: Did I dream of Aga led 6-1, 3-0 ? Very nice for Belgium but yet Yanina lucky to get away with it.
Yeah, but you also create your own luck. Only goes to show what can happen if you give it a 100% on each point. :)

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:17 PM
The better player won = good for tennis.

Can't wait till the useless pusher is dumped out of top-10.

The Crow
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Yeah, but you also create your own luck. Only goes to show what can happen if you give it a 100% on each point. :)

Indeed! :D

St.Sebastian
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:19 PM
The better player won = good for tennis.

Can't wait till the useless pusher is dumped out of top-10.
She wasn't a pusher today. She hit 52 winners.

Adrian.
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:19 PM
The better player won = good for tennis.

Can't wait till the useless pusher is dumped out of top-10.

Not really:p

muniu
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Where did you take this from? Fed Cup official website has "slightly" different stats :lol:

TVP sport :lol:

The Kaz
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:20 PM
winners-Ue's

69-21 Aga
74-36 Wicky

Aga, epic choke :worship:

Umm where did you get those stats from, cos there are wrong.

The offical stats on the website are.

53-27 Aga
52-52 Nina

Vaidisova Ruled
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:21 PM
After all the things aga said, it's even funnier:devil:

Martian Jeza
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:22 PM
Yeah, but you also create your own luck. Only goes to show what can happen if you give it a 100% on each point. :)

Those things, it often is a combination of the leading opponent choking/collapsing/suddenly not believing in herself anymore and the other fighting back and having the momentum at her side but it only is the way how I view such thing.

The Kaz
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:23 PM
After all the things aga said, it's even funnier:devil:

What did she say?? :hehehe:

Sarah<Kim-fan>
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:23 PM
luck was with Yanina in this match :ras: :fiery:

I have a big laugh at everyone saying Yanina had all the luck luck! Did you guys actually see the line calls that were made? emberrassing! and that for a top ref like L. Welsch.
There was this serve down the middle in the 2Nd set for Radwanska that was probably 10 cm out, there was this ball from Yanina in one of the last games, that was clearly in...
and numorous other calls all against Belgium.
if that's having all the luck at your side :lol:
yes there were the net balls, but Radwanska had those too in the first part of the match

true :lol:
dunno where they took that 3:36 :lol: :rolls:
the scoring has been awfull all weekend. Yesterday at the end of the 1st set, the score was 7-4 :tape::lol:

Anyway, amazing fight from Yanina, she didn't play good, just like yesterday, some really poor play at times. The fact she still won this match is half a miracle :) :yeah:

Anyone know if Flipkens will be able to play ?

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:25 PM
She wasn't a pusher today. She hit 52 winners.

She is a pusher. One fluke match doesn't change a thing.

Juanes
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:26 PM
what a choke!!! :o

GreenGrass
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:27 PM
poor Aga :sad: Yanina was so lucky :sobbing:
53 winners are quite a few for a "pusher" :rolleyes:

AnywhereButHome
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:27 PM
so many chances Aga :o
however
good luck Marta!

olivero
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:27 PM
Anyone know if Flipkens will be able to play ?

yes, she will play Marta now.

Slutiana
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:28 PM
She is a pusher. One fluke match doesn't change a thing.
:lol: You're silly.

The Untouchable
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:28 PM
Oh Aga. :o:o:help:

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:31 PM
That was is fairness an outstanding match. Yes, Aga lost it because she got tight at crucial moments when she was up a break and Wickmayer won it mostly because she played absolutely outstandingly when she was under threat on serving. Wickmayers serving on break points the last two sets was unbelievable.

Despite the fact that at times Aga did get tight, overall for much of the match this was as good as I have ever seen Aga play. That group of idiots who like to call Aga a "pusher" will have trouble explaining her 53 winners, one more infact than Wickmayer. Also worth mentioning was that Aga is getting better and better at finding ways to the net and her performance today at the forecourt was as good as I have ever seen her.

The 1st half of the 3rd set was tennis at it's best. It was punctuated by an incredible array of brilliant winners by Aga (Radwanska hit 26 winners in the 3rd set alone :eek: ) and also by some amazing clutch serving by Wickmayer when down break points. Both girls can actually feel very proud of how they played for much of the match although like most up and down rollercoaster type matches the form of both girls definately rose and dipped at different times.

As a fan of Aga, and of Polish tennis generally I'm gutted that Aga lost this match, but at the same time I have got to say I have seen Aga win a hell of a lot of matches playing much less good than she did today. If Aga keeps the level she showed for the majority of this match for the rest of the year I have no doubt good things will happen.

As for Wickmayer, this match was excellent further confirmation of all her strengths. She is very strong mentally, she hits those groundies with great pace and she has one of the very best serves on the tour to boot. All credit to her.

Well now that is over, I can only cross my fingers that Marta can win this 4th tie and Poland can then take it is five and then I can forget the disappointment of how this extremely well played and entertaining match ended up. :lol:

Jorn
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:31 PM
Aga :o

Yanina ;)


Now win Marta! :)

tennis-insomniac
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:32 PM
Aga did play really well for what i've seen she has a talent with balls but she was a bit laid back in the third set she became to emotional in the third set

cecilija
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:32 PM
Yanina has a great second serve.

Well done!

tennis-insomniac
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:36 PM
yanina was such a fiter aga played incredible tennis but her immaturity caused her the match
Great Match girls Congrats to Yanina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqb-dmUm0hY

oh btw this is just the highlight from first set (i though aga was gonna win so i made an early decision)
anyway i'll post the rest later on it was such a fun match to watch :) i hope you guys will like the vid although the quality and sound were awful

i fixed it now it will be better in the third set

Dorien.
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:36 PM
Nina :) Great fight from her. She served strong on the bp :yeah:

Mahon_Lorcan
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Oh God. Aga..:( No comment. 1 set was fantastic..I don't understand this lose...:(

#kArLoS#
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:40 PM
for those haters who said she was lucky blah blah blah,she believed in her win and she wanted it so badly even when she was being outplayed.God(and us)know that she put all her heart and soul in winning it,so she also deserved it.Oh,and IMO she did play as good as Radwanska,but she was by far more incosistent.Dont forget that Radwanska got a lots of winners of volleys and dropshots,she lacks power so she never has the problem of making a lot of UEs;)

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:41 PM
:lol: You're silly.

Very silly. :worship:

Nikkiri
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:41 PM
Aga :smash: never seen her get so emotional on court like that.

delicatecutter
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:43 PM
Poor Aga! :bigcry: I hate seeing her lose to the likes of Wickmayer.

It is really insulting to put Aga in the same category as Caro, the only true pusher.

Beny
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:51 PM
:sobbing:

luck was with Yanina in this match :ras: :fiery:

3h and 36 min of a really good match :yeah:

Saw the first half of the third set and it was full of winners! must have been a very good match

Protoss
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:54 PM
What's the point in playing well if you can't actually finish the match? :rolleyes:

bandabou
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:57 PM
:lol: It's amazing..but really yanina should start to learn how to win her matches more easily. Waayyyy too many three-setters

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:04 PM
So many bitter fans of the pusher here :lol:
Just accept it: when a good player stops producing wild errors Radwanska is a toast, finished, done.

Sexysova
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:05 PM
good fight, Yanina! :D

tennis-insomniac
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:07 PM
Yanina fought she kept fighting although she hit lots of UF she is mentally stronger than Aga in what i see Aga's game was effective in this match
Yanina beat top 10 player today that means something :)

daniela86
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Yanina :D

adner
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:24 PM
This looked like a future grand slam final ;)

WhoAmI?
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:27 PM
:devil:

Edinboro
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:38 PM
Second choke from Radwanska this year. Looks like karma for what she did to Vika at the YEC. :P

Joke intended.

delicatecutter
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:39 PM
This looked like a future grand slam final ;)

The thought of Wickmayer winning Majors depresses me.

adner
Feb 7th, 2010, 02:49 PM
The thought of Wickmayer winning Majors depresses me.

Well, whatever can we say about this bitch, she can play tennis pretty well :p

ElusiveChanteuse
Feb 7th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Aga :spit: :o
Nina :cheer:

and to the haters, :nerner:
Yanina didn't cheat to win the match, so there's no such thing as undeserving win in this case.

gmak
Feb 7th, 2010, 04:45 PM
haters :devil: :lol: :drool:
get used to it :)

Yanina :worship: :yeah:
great fight :D

Cookie Power
Feb 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Not a surprise. Radwanska is an awful player.

tennis-insomniac
Feb 7th, 2010, 04:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRlkHgtHZcY

Yanina on her third set win i really need to go to sleep....Yawn.....

Elwin.
Feb 7th, 2010, 05:48 PM
So happy Nina defeated Radwanska :inlove:
Yanina was probably pissed off and more motivated after the things Radwanska said about her.

Yanina :D

rickxx
Feb 7th, 2010, 06:36 PM
Could've been an exciting match judging by the scoreline.Aga should've won this easily though.Still, nice comeback for Yanina!

volta
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:15 PM
now this really HURTS :sobbing:

oh Aga , at least you played great , hopefully this loss wont have a negative effect and you'll build on this form :hug:

hankqq
Feb 7th, 2010, 07:29 PM
oh Aga :lol: :o she's usually such a cool customer on court.

well done to Yanina though :shrug: at a time when so many top players are struggling with confidence, this girl really believes in herself and it's nice to see. She's improving all the time and is certainly on her way up. You've got to give her credit-so far this season she has lost only to Henin, and that was in 3 tight sets :shrug:

dabossK
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:05 PM
now this really HURTS :sobbing:

oh Aga , at least you played great , hopefully this loss wont have a negative effect and you'll build on this form :hug:

I Hope this match inspires her to play more aggressive throughout the season!

Loudman
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Wow I thought Yanina was toast in the beginning of the second set, Agnieszka's defense is impressive.
Nice how she kept fighting, but not a very good match overall from Yanina.
But she's 13-1 this year, she can always rely on her fighting spirit.

Just fed cup though, who cares.

KamilZ
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:12 PM
Hmmm...Nina and her great fighting spirit :hearts: I love it! :) Well done :)

Corswandt
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Har de har har.

Hagar
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:49 PM
WOW Yanina! She is one tough cookie. She wins because she refuses to lose. Incredible mental strenght. I thought Radwanska played very well, she has such a clean game.

Pops Maellard
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:54 PM
Nina finally beats a Top 10 player. :D

justine schnyder
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:43 PM
what a marvelous choke :o :o
Ewwww I'm still gutted.. Aga :o :mad: :tape:

iPatty
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:55 PM
Wickmayer's first Top10 win. :tape:

Slutati
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:04 PM
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. :crying2::sobbing::hysteric:

This just ain't right!

youizahoe
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:16 PM
Top10 win, and what for a top 10 player :tape:

Monzanator
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:38 PM
Epic choke from Radwanska against Wickmayer of all players. Say no more :rolleyes:

pokey camp
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:57 PM
Another surprising stat is Aga's BP conversion: 8/34. No wonder she lost it. Yanina came back from 0-40 several times, mostly with big serves.
:eek: 8/34. That's amazing.

Uranus
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:54 AM
People are being harsh with Yanina on this 1st top 10 win. Last time she met one (Wozniacki, USO SF), she was barely into top 50.
And the week before (ranked even lower), she took Kuznetsova to a 3rd-set TB.
No wonder she'll be defeating other top 10ers in the next few months, when she'll get the chance to face them.

Malva
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:57 AM
Very silly. :worship:

The guy lost any credibility long ago. So many times wrong with his ex cathedra pronouncements and unwilling to accept it. I no more take him seriously.

Considering the loss by Agnieszka: after the match as good as the one today this doesn't hurt so much.

Congratulations to Yanina and Agnieszka: anybody should be thankful for this display of great tennis.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 8th, 2010, 08:48 AM
The guy lost any credibility long ago. So many times wrong with his ex cathedra pronouncements and unwilling to accept it.

:bs:

I no more take him seriously.

My heart is broken... :bigcry:

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:12 AM
The guy lost any credibility long ago. So many times wrong with his ex cathedra pronouncements and unwilling to accept it. I no more take him seriously.

Considering the loss by Agnieszka: after the match as good as the one today this doesn't hurt so much.

Congratulations to Yanina and Agnieszka: anybody should be thankful for this display of great tennis.

Actually I like AnnaK_4ever alot. Yes I frequently disagree with him and at times I get on his case too. He does also from time to time say some rather ridiculous provocative statements. But to be honest I sometimes think those are simply because he likes a good debate. And there is no more effective way of starting a debate than with a good strong provocative statement. Whenever I get into real talks with him he almost always has something quite clever to say and he is undoubtably a good debater and he does know his tennis, certainly at least at the top level. He also has a wicked sense of humour which counts for a lot. In short I actually have a lot of respect for him, which is probably why when he says something I consider not terribly spot on, shall we say, I am more inclided to call him up on it than someone I don't take remotely seriously like say SIN DIOS NI LEY.

dabossK
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:22 AM
^^^omg I hate Sin Dios Ni Ley. He/she/it ALWAYS talks so bad about Agnieszka and I believe they stalk me too :scared:

Corswandt
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:58 AM
lolz @ the Agatards again complaining of the meanies.

BTW by now everyone should know that any player who loses to Safina incurs in AnnaK_4ever's perpetual wrath.

Sergius
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:02 AM
As for me this result was expected. Yanina is definetly gonna end this year in top-10/ She's really talented and mentally strong.;)

gaja kesari
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:11 AM
Unfortunately, it was the case of It's-In-The-Bag-At-6:1,3:0-Agnieszka toppled by Nerves-Of-Steel-Yanina. Big drama and some great points. Congrats Yanina on sticking it out at the end.
But ouch, commiserations Agnieszka, this must really hurt, especially after you played so well. Never mind.

gaja kesari
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:26 AM
BTW by now everyone should know that any player who loses to Safina incurs in AnnaK_4ever's perpetual wrath.

I was about to write the same :lol:

Mind you, cannot really blame AnnaK_4ever here, as A-Rad should have won that match against Safina, no excuses, and I say it as her big fan. A 5-0 lead gone to NOTHING? Please! Another case of premature relaxation unfortunately, and not enough daring when going gets tough.

But her pluck seems to have come back now, which is great to see, and as an ardent fan, I have lots of patience, and will wait for the results :cool:

Corswandt
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:03 PM
Mind you, cannot really blame AnnaK_4ever here, as A-Rad should have won that match against Safina, no excuses, and I say it as her big fan. A 5-0 lead gone to NOTHING? Please! Another case of premature relaxation unfortunately, and not enough daring when going gets tough.

Not really. Safina just stopped missing. And once her opponent stops missing, Radwanska is done.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:09 PM
So many bitter fans of the pusher here :lol:
Just accept it: when a good player stops producing wild errors Radwanska is a toast, finished, done.

Not really. Safina just stopped missing. And once her opponent stops missing, Radwanska is done.

copycat :p :angel:

Corswandt
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:12 PM
copycat :p :angel:

Great minds think alike.

Beny
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:15 PM
So happy Nina defeated Radwanska :inlove:
Yanina was probably pissed off and more motivated after the things Radwanska said about her.

Yanina :D

What did Radwanska say about her??

Curious to hear.

Also wonder what Radwanska said after this match :devil:

Corswandt
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:16 PM
What did Radwanska say about her??

Curious to hear.

Also wonder what Radwanska said after this match :devil:

Ratwanska talks shit about everyone. She's as vile as her game.

Beny
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:17 PM
I love her game

iPatty
Feb 8th, 2010, 12:27 PM
I was about to write the same :lol:

Mind you, cannot really blame AnnaK_4ever here, as A-Rad should have won that match against Safina, no excuses, and I say it as her big fan. A 5-0 lead gone to NOTHING? Please! Another case of premature relaxation unfortunately, and not enough daring when going gets tough.

But her pluck seems to have come back now, which is great to see, and as an ardent fan, I have lots of patience, and will wait for the results :cool:

Am I the only one who snickered at "premature relaxation"? :smoke:

She should have won the match against Safina? Explain please.

gumoll
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:15 PM
Also wonder what Radwanska said after this match :devil:

she said that that Yanina in key moments played unbelievable tennis ;)

The Dawntreader
Feb 8th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Am I the only one who snickered at "premature relaxation"? :smoke:

She should have won the match against Safina? Explain please.

This.

Noone 'should' win anything in tennis.

Monzanator
Feb 8th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Also wonder what Radwanska said after this match

I've heard her on the radio this morning and she said she simply "blew it" and generally sounded downbeat. Polish team captain said that Agnieszka is a better player then Wickmayer and the Belgian won only because of her serving.

gaja kesari
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:21 PM
Am I the only one who snickered at "premature relaxation"? :smoke:

She should have won the match against Safina? Explain please.

I hope you were not the only one who snickered at "premature relaxation", this pun was very much intended.

Regarding your question, what's there to explain? :shrug: It was Dinara's first match after a long break and she was obviously quite rusty. Agnieszka was leading 5:0 in the first and probably thought the set was hers already. Wrong. Dinara raised her level of the game and Agnieszka didn't. Now here's something you might* disagree with - in my opinion A-Rad has enough skills and talent to beat Dinara. Or at least give herself a fighting chance by winning the first set. That's why I said she should have won.
Pax (i hope).

*irony alert ;)

Uranus
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:27 PM
What did Radwanska say about her??

Curious to hear.
Basically she said that the ban she got at the end of last year was deserved and should have been kept as it was. Sad thing is that she didn't know a shit about the whole story and talked shit without actually having a clue.

iPatty
Feb 8th, 2010, 04:31 PM
I hope you were not the only one who snickered at "premature relaxation", this pun was very much intended.

Regarding your question, what's there to explain? :shrug: It was Dinara's first match after a long break and she was obviously quite rusty. Agnieszka was leading 5:0 in the first and probably thought the set was hers already. Wrong. Dinara raised her level of the game and Agnieszka didn't. Now here's something you might* disagree with - in my opinion A-Rad has enough skills and talent to beat Dinara. Or at least give herself a fighting chance by winning the first set. That's why I said she should have won.
Pax (i hope).

*irony alert ;)

I see where you are coming from, I just don't think winning one set means that she should have won the match. Should she have won the first set? Probably. If she had hit the ball a little deeper in the 50 or 51 game she might have very well taken it. Safina was playing too poorly in the opening set for Radwanska not to win it, yet former #1 pulled it out. However I think we have seen Safina come from behind too many times for you to say Radwanska should have won the match because she almost won a set. Doesn't work like that.

dabossK
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Stop with all the aga hate.

Monzanator
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:56 PM
I see you're familiar with the most popular word in Polish :lol:

youizahoe
Feb 8th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Dawid taught me :lol:

dabossK
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:00 PM
Then tell her and her family to stop being dumb kurwa's and dirty talk about everyone else on the tour.

Oh really.. They only "talk shit" when journalists bring up certain wta matters and they're not afraid to speak their minds. And certainly Ula nor Marta never have so leave them out :shrug:
and as a Serena fan "which I am too" how the fuck can you cast judgement when Serena talks shut about other players too and her father used to as well. Exampless
"well dinara won rome and Madrid"- serena
"she's a great turkey!"- Richard

So step to me

youizahoe
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:11 PM
Oh really.. They only "talk shit" when journalists bring up certain wta matters and they're not afraid to speak their minds. And certainly Ula nor Marta never have so leave them out :shrug:
and as a Serena fan "which I am too" how the fuck can you cast judgement when Serena talks shut about other players too and her father used to as well. Exampless
"well dinara won rome and Madrid"- serena
"she's a great turkey!"- Richard

So step to me

Well those are harmless quotes. It's way different when you say :

"Hey this girl should be banned for two years" OR "Well she won Rome and Madrid"

First example is tacky and uncalled for, while the other one is funny, and harmless.

- Takes 30 seconds of thinking to realize that.

Slutati
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:21 PM
Keep speaking the truth, Aga. :bowdown: We got your back, we know you ain't lying. :hearts:

Ferg
Feb 8th, 2010, 07:39 PM
Well those are harmless quotes. It's way different when you say :

"Hey this girl should be banned for two years" OR "Well she won Rome and Madrid"

First example is tacky and uncalled for, while the other one is funny, and harmless.

- Takes 30 seconds of thinking to realize that.

"I always beat Jankovic, who do you think I want to play?" :hearts:

Midnight_Robber
Feb 8th, 2010, 09:57 PM
:rolleyes:

Anyway...

53-27 Aga
52-52 Nina

More winners, less errors and still Radwanska lost? :eek: Ouch. If she's not completely demoralised by this, she needs to go away and start thinking about how to play the big points much than she did better.

And to the poster who tried to devalue her winners by pointing out that they were volleys at the net or drop-shots? Guess what? They're still winners. Not every winner consists of rifling the ball to the corners of the court. The whole point of a pusher is that they avoid hitting winners - be they blasting groundstrokes, volleys at the net or attacking drop-shots. I don't follow Radwanska very much, but in this match at least she was anything but a pusher.

Too bad that she didn't play better when it mattered. Credit to Wickmayer who is proving that she's fighter.

Corswandt
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Basically she said that the ban she got at the end of last year was deserved and should have been kept as it was. Sad thing is that she didn't know a shit about the whole story and talked shit without actually having a clue.

This is actually remarkably restrained by Radwanska's usual standards.

olivero
Feb 8th, 2010, 10:50 PM
dabossK could you please stop trolling about Aga everywhere and insulting other posters? Jesus.

As to what Agnieszka said about Wickmayer's case (which was already discussed here numerous times), she thought that it's not fair that a player gets banned and then this ban is cancelled. She said that all players must obbey the same rules and now when Nina broke them she doesn't get a penalty.
From what she said one might think that she's not aware of all the circumstances in Yanina's case.

And just to make it clear. After her Fed Cup match. Agnieszka said that they both played very well, like two top 20 players. For her Yanina looked as is she didn't have any plan for this match at the beginning but once she raised her level in the second set the match became very tight. She also said she should've used her chances on BPs and MPs and that she 'blew it' because she was supposed to get one point for Poland, which could lead to eventual victory.

gaja kesari
Feb 8th, 2010, 11:41 PM
dabossK could you please stop trolling about Aga everywhere and insulting other posters? Jesus.

As to what Agnieszka said about Wickmayer's case (which was already discussed here numerous times), she thought that it's not fair that a player gets banned and then this ban is cancelled. She said that all players must obbey the same rules and now when Nina broke them she doesn't get a penalty.
From what she said one might think that she's not aware of all the circumstances in Yanina's case.

And just to make it clear. After her Fed Cup match. Agnieszka said that they both played very well, like two top 20 players. For her Yanina looked as is she didn't have any plan for this match at the beginning but once she raised her level in the second set the match became very tight. She also said she should've used her chances on BPs and MPs and that she 'blew it' because she was supposed to get one point for Poland, which could lead to eventual victory.

Well said Olivero, thank you :)

dabossK
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:18 AM
dabossK could you please stop trolling about Aga everywhere and insulting other posters? Jesus.

As to what Agnieszka said about Wickmayer's case (which was already discussed here numerous times), she thought that it's not fair that a player gets banned and then this ban is cancelled. She said that all players must obbey the same rules and now when Nina broke them she doesn't get a penalty.
From what she said one might think that she's not aware of all the circumstances in Yanina's case.

And just to make it clear. After her Fed Cup match. Agnieszka said that they both played very well, like two top 20 players. For her Yanina looked as is she didn't have any plan for this match at the beginning but once she raised her level in the second set the match became very tight. She also said she should've used her chances on BPs and MPs and that she 'blew it' because she was supposed to get one point for Poland, which could lead to eventual victory.

I'm not why don't you read what i post before you denounce me. I'm just defending my favorite player. Idiot.

Craig.
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:19 AM
How did Radwanska hit 53 winners? :weirdo:

dabossK
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:24 AM
I'm not why don't you read what i post before you denounce me. I'm just defending my favorite player. Idiot.

How did Radwanska hit 53 winners? :weirdo:

Because she's not a pusher like everyone says :shrug:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:39 AM
This looked like a future grand slam final ;)

:spit:

aguy9797
Feb 9th, 2010, 12:42 AM
I see some serious improvement in Aga's serve, especially the first and second set, she hit it harder and deeper. Unfortunately, the serve was gone in the third set, when she got nervous (tight). It is however somewhat optimistic to see Aga serving harder and winning her games very comfortably...hopefully, she will be able to keep it up.

Yanina, deserves a lot of credit IMO. She showed she is a true fighter, high level of self efficacy ...these are traits of a champion.

This match shows that a better player do not always win. Aga was, objectively speaking, a better player with more variety in her game, but Yanina just wouldn't quit..my respect to Yanina

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:01 AM
How did Radwanska hit 53 winners? :weirdo:

26 drop shots + 26 lobs + 1 framed forehand I guess.

olivero
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:19 AM
I'm not why don't you read what i post before you denounce me. I'm just defending my favorite player. Idiot.

:weirdo:
just chill out

Caipirinha Guy
Feb 9th, 2010, 09:34 AM
26 drop shots + 26 lobs + 1 framed forehand I guess.

Yes, you can only guess because you didn't see the match. :angel:

gumoll
Feb 9th, 2010, 01:07 PM
Yes, you can only guess because you didn't see the match. :angel:

my fave shot was that fh dtl in run :inlove:

TheAllan
Feb 9th, 2010, 11:01 PM
How did Radwanska hit 53 winners? :weirdo:
Depends on the strictness of the criteria used. Looking at the figures presented here, they seem to have used somewhat laxer criteria than what is applied at the Slams. I don't see any official ITF stats from the match, so I'm guessing the broadcaster, or the Polish federation compiled them. That doesn't mean they don't reflect the match accurately, in fact it might be the opposite. However, it doesn't make sense to compare them to the stats we see at Slams. I don't know of a Slam match where Radwanska has won 42 percent of her points from winners.

Malva
Feb 10th, 2010, 02:23 AM
Actually I like AnnaK_4ever alot. Yes I frequently disagree with him and at times I get on his case too. He does also from time to time say some rather ridiculous provocative statements. But to be honest I sometimes think those are simply because he likes a good debate. And there is no more effective way of starting a debate than with a good strong provocative statement. Whenever I get into real talks with him he almost always has something quite clever to say and he is undoubtably a good debater and he does know his tennis, certainly at least at the top level. He also has a wicked sense of humour which counts for a lot. In short I actually have a lot of respect for him, which is probably why when he says something I consider not terribly spot on, shall we say, I am more inclided to call him up on it than someone I don't take remotely seriously like say SIN DIOS NI LEY.

I am fully aware of all of that. Having a sharper mind than the majority of those who post in the tenniforum, and being able to say something clever is something I value too. I am not certain about "a good debate part" though. For a good debate I consider essential good will of all the parties involved in the debate. That part is missing.