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is1531
Feb 6th, 2010, 05:08 PM
Alisa Klaybanova is a terrific tennis player. She has an excellent serve and possesses a quality volley game. What prevents her from being a top 10 player is her body. She could diet from today for the next 2 years but that would not help her a great deal. She must combine diet with exercise so her body is contoured. That means Klaybanova should spend her free time mountain running, which is the best way to build endurance, swimming which builds endurance and plenty of bike riding. If Klaybanova can do all of these things, then she is ready to make the next big step and enter the top 10.

I am not a Wozniacki fan, but the girl keeps herself in tennis shape. Klaybanova can get as far as she wants, but in reality she should have dealt with here conditioning 5 years ago. Bring her to the USA, we will get her in shape to fight,lol. Best of luck to a very talented player!:) :bounce:

tenn_ace
Feb 6th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Yeap, sure.... that how Ivanovic's game started to faulter. She was also said that for her to go to the next level she needs to lose weight/get fitter. She is never been the same as a player since then - all downhill.

goldenlox
Feb 6th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Alisa is young. Everything can improve. She has to hold serve better, she has a good serve. The fitness will come. She has already won a lot of long 3 setters

In The Zone
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Even with this body, she is top 10. She just needs to get a bit more experience with the bigger matches. Against Henin, she had her and then out of nowhere was hitting errors left and right. After Henin took the lead, Kleybanova ran out of steam. Had she kept her groundstrokes together, she might have been able to close it out. Her game is so explosive, she just needs to find exactly what her gameplan/form is going to be as a successful player.

nevetssllim
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:10 PM
Even with this body, she is top 10. She just needs to get a bit more experience with the bigger matches. Against Henin, she had her and then out of nowhere was hitting errors left and right. After Henin took the lead, Kleybanova ran out of steam. Had she kept her groundstrokes together, she might have been able to close it out. Her game is so explosive, she just needs to find exactly what her gameplan/form is going to be as a successful player.

I agree. She isn't slow and I don't think Alisa is unfit as people say because she plays a lot of tournaments and she also plays a lot of doubles too and seems to cope well with a demanding schedule.

If anything, she needs to improve her second serve more than her fitness and I think she just needs a bit more consistency and a bit more experience in big matches.

hankqq
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:10 PM
Even with this body, she is top 10. She just needs to get a bit more experience with the bigger matches. Against Henin, she had her and then out of nowhere was hitting errors left and right. After Henin took the lead, Kleybanova ran out of steam. Had she kept her groundstrokes together, she might have been able to close it out. Her game is so explosive, she just needs to find exactly what her gameplan/form is going to be as a successful player.

yup :yeah:

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:28 PM
Kleybanova's body mass is her only weapon. Without it she would be helpless as her basic tennis technique is utterly horrible.

frenchie
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:33 PM
She's not really slow actually
Her defense is OK and she has good angles on the run

Same for Bartoli!

aguy9797
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:36 PM
I adore Alisa!! Wish her all the best, I think she has huge potentials

goldenlox
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:37 PM
She doesn't play smart. When Justine and Jelena were close to losing, Alisa just gave points away and let them back in the match.
She has to learn to play steadier and make her opponents play well to beat her.

pov
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:40 PM
It's not that she is slow - it's that with an improved muscle/weight ratio she will likely be faster.

DragonFlame
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:47 PM
Kleybanova's body mass is her only weapon. Without it she would be helpless as her basic tennis technique is utterly horrible.

Agreed. Her technique is absolutely dreadful. Especially on the forehand side, without her bodymass that puts that extra weight on her shots she´ll hardly be as succesful.

What she needs to improve on is her shotselection. When she gets in trouble she can´t switch well to a planB right now, even though she´s shown in some matches that she can be a witty player.
Right now she´s just going for more and more when it happens. The first step to improving for her will be a better tactical plan.

BlameSerena
Feb 6th, 2010, 06:59 PM
Crush her, JJ!

Lucemferre
Feb 6th, 2010, 07:01 PM
She was destroying henin and then couldn't put a first serve in for the rest of the match. She needs endurance for sure.

belzebub
Feb 6th, 2010, 08:51 PM
Kleybanova is Katyusha truck :scared:

The Dawntreader
Feb 7th, 2010, 12:37 AM
Kleybanova's body mass is her only weapon. Without it she would be helpless as her basic tennis technique is utterly horrible.

Well not really. Her serve for example is a deceptively well-produced shot. Plenty of extension and a consistently good ball-toss.

As for the actual thread question, i'm not actually that big a critic of Kleybanova's game. There were some comments made the other day saying that the Russian makes 'Lindsay look agile' or something along those lines anyway. Anyone who's seem Kleybanova actually play will know how much good intentions she has with her mobility. Her footwork moving around the ball is pretty decent, and she has some excellent hands on the run, able to use a lot of left hand to manipulate the ball into acute CC angles, that gives her enough time to retain her court-positioning. She's no Dementieva in the agility stakes of course, but her movement is actually adequate enough for a woman of her physical stature.

Ferg
Feb 7th, 2010, 12:40 AM
Body + mind it seems.

mauresmofan
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:05 AM
She moves very well actually so I think her mind is the main problem with her getting into the top 10 she gets very tight in big matches but the potential is certainly there and of course fitness will help.

JJandAna4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 05:27 AM
people see that she is fat and automatically think she is slow..but that's not true at all. She's no Venus or Henin-Hardene, but she's probably in the top 30% speed wise on the WTA.

What's more problematic to me IMO is her total inability to handle a slice shot from her opponent. Henin definitely realized this and used it more in the third set. Everytime Alisa sees a slice, she slows her shot down significantly and has to pop it up. Everytime she gets and advantage in a rally, any opponent with a decent slice can take it away.

AcesHigh
Feb 7th, 2010, 05:49 AM
I don't know about top 10, but these days who knows.

People might be going overboard with her game. She has potential yes, but like others have said.. her technique is meh.. and her shot selection could use a lot of work.

Lindsayfan32
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:23 AM
Alisa reminds me of Lindsay at the same age. All power and not much else. She should look at what Lindsay did to turn her career around. Once Lindsay got serious about her fitness her results went way up and there is no doubt the Alisa has the game to do well but lacks the fitness.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 11:23 AM
I just don't get the Davenport comparison.
Lindsay, even when being "fat", had a great serve that was winning her a lot of free points. Kleybanova' serve (her only "good looking" stroke -- I agree with hejira) is average.
Lindsay was one of the cleanest hitter in the women's tennis history. Kleybanova's groundsrokes, on the other hand, are among the fugliests in the game.
Lindsay knew how to place her shots. Kleybanova's only option seems to be hitting countless crosscourts.
And I don't buy a "she is still young and blah blah-blah" argument. She's 20. She's 20 and has never been to a tour final.

GrandMartha
Feb 7th, 2010, 01:38 PM
Kleybanova's body mass is her only weapon. Without it she would be helpless as her basic tennis technique is utterly horrible.

i think you meant the way she moves on court and how she hits her forehand. it may haven't pleased your eyes but she has definitely the potential of breaking into the top 10.
you can't even reach the top 500 with horrible technique, not alone top 30 and probably top 10 soon :rolleyes:

delicatecutter
Feb 7th, 2010, 03:34 PM
I really like watching Alisa play. I'm not sure fitness is an issue the way it was with Seles. It's her mentality and consistency that is the problem. She's had huge upsets but then she can lose to almost anybody the next day. She blew a huge chance at Moscow last fall, getting dismissed easily by Govortsova after having taken out Jankovic. Last year I predicted she would be the next new player to reach the Top 10, but sadly it appears that Wickmayer will be.

bjurra
Feb 7th, 2010, 04:19 PM
There is nothing wrong with Kleybas technique! Her strokes are not a thing of beauty but she can hit the ball hard and rather consistently and does well on all surfaces.

I think she will be top 15 by the end of the year.

Mistress of Evil
Feb 7th, 2010, 04:19 PM
Kleybanova's body mass is her only weapon. Without it she would be helpless as her basic tennis technique is utterly horrible.

This.

Minotaur
Feb 7th, 2010, 08:56 PM
Personally i think that Alisa is pretty much a predictable player. She is a hard hitter and when her precision is on she can beat nearly anybody on tour. Yeah, she can get some variety but she's not obviously anything compared to Henin on Hingis in tactics division.

Henin was just too smart on key points in that particular encounter. That's why Henin is Henin. It's not easy to beat her even if you are set up and up a break in the 2nd set

Aaric
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:07 PM
Too many potential top tenners atm. Let´s wait.

RND
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:15 PM
^^ Sorry but no one said she's an Henin or Hingis potential, why the comparison? :shrug:

I really like her play and I agree there is not much wrong with her techniques. It's not like you can only play good following what textbooks tell you. And I think both her serve and movement is more than decent. One thing she should really work on, for me, is now to learn to change the pace of her shots in a point, or say to construct a point. She looks to have all the skills to be in the top 15 but she tends to just pound the balls consistently to different directions to produce chances rather than put in a well thought plan. If she could just add more variety of pace, like sometimes a short angle, sometimes a higher ball, and sometimes even a slice which I've seen she could handle pretty well, then it could be a lot easier for her than power-hitting through long rallies as it is at present, even if she's not bad at it.

goldenlox
Feb 7th, 2010, 09:27 PM
The potential is there because she has power that few players have.
Plus she's a good doubles player. Her serve is good and she is good near the net.
She went 3 sets yesterday and came back and won singles and doubles.

She is still way below where she can be, but she has moved foreward a lot from 2007

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:23 PM
The potential is there because she has power that few players have.
Plus she's a good doubles player. Her serve is good and she is good near the net.

I'm tempted to see what it actually means. Cos I can't recall her ever hitting a proper volley.

tenn_ace
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:27 PM
I'm tempted to see what it actually means. Cos I can't recall her ever hitting a proper volley.


Is there ONE Russian player that you are, at least, indifferent to?

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:31 PM
Is there ONE Russian player that you are, at least, indifferent to?

I'm pretty sure there are myriads of them I've never heard of, so the answer is positive.

goldenlox
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:32 PM
I don't know about a proper volley, but I think she should be coming to the net a lot.
She has quick reflexes and a good overhead.

tenn_ace
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:36 PM
I'm pretty sure there are myriads of them I've never heard of, so the answer is positive.

I'm sure though if you do have to post about any of them at any point in the future, there won't be a shred of positivity or even indifference. I think this goes far beoynd Alisa's play at net, Sveta's fitness or Tarpischev's decisions. Just admit what it is.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:41 PM
I'm sure though if you do have to post about any of them at any point in the future, there won't be a shred of positivity or even indifference. I think this goes far beoynd Alisa's play at net, Sveta's fitness or Tarpischev's decisions. Just admit what it is.

Sorry, I didn't think I should hail every Russian out there only because I happened to be a Russian myself. You know, I'm not into blind nationalism.

tenn_ace
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Sorry, I didn't think I should hail every Russian out there only because I happened to be a Russian myself. You know, I'm not into blind nationalism.
That's the thing - you don't hail any one of them. Even they deserve to be.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:47 PM
That's the thing - you don't hail any one of them. Even they deserve to be.

That's a lie.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:48 PM
Agreed. Her technique is absolutely dreadful. Especially on the forehand side, without her bodymass that puts that extra weight on her shots she´ll hardly be as succesful.

What she needs to improve on is her shotselection. When she gets in trouble she can´t switch well to a planB right now, even though she´s shown in some matches that she can be a witty player.
Right now she´s just going for more and more when it happens. The first step to improving for her will be a better tactical plan.

agreed

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:52 PM
She was destroying henin and then couldn't put a first serve in for the rest of the match. She needs endurance for sure.

she doesn't need endurance...she needs confidence and experience...:shrug: even the ever fit elena d has lost 3 setters 6-1 6-2 etc...it's all about believing you can do it even in the face of a comeback by your opponent...endurance helps nothing if you don't have to confidence in your shots, as commentators are quick to point out that a fit player who can't get their nerves under control ends up fading as quickly as someone who is unfit :shrug:

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 7th, 2010, 10:57 PM
That's the thing - you don't hail any one of them. Even they deserve to be.

you clearly don't know who you're speaking about :lol: as sarcastic and crass as mr anna k/myskina may be in his posts...he's known to give credit where it's due :shrug: