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Volcana
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:38 AM
She's a world class athlete. I'm not. I'm not even a fan.

But I did have basically the same surgery as her, within months of her having it. And I'm back to as good as I was before it. Sharapova wan't just a big hitter. She was a consistent hitter. 'Tennis Robot' can be a compliment. Watching her spray backhamd UE's off of routine shots, I wonder about how damaged her shoulder was. Or, if you examine the contra-positive, how delicate her control really was.

Sharapova's game looked brute force. So did Davenport's. In the case of Davenport, we know, and concede better. Maybe we need to concede the same with MS. Every single tennis thing about the old Sharapova was better than Kirilenko. Mind, emotion, consistency, every shot, decision making, endurance.....

Like Venus losing to Crosby, Stills and Nash at last year's OZ, this is gonna linger til Sharpie makes it go away.

madmax
Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:14 AM
and yet she still won Premier tournament last year with your so called "damaged" shoulder...she just underperforms at slams for some reason - I think it's more a mental thing than physical one, because she looked good at the end of last year and in january's exhos. She'll be back with vengeance, don't you worry about FighterPova:worship:

Lord Choc Ice
Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:35 AM
Yeah losing to Dulko, Oudin and Kirilenko in slams. :tape: Outside the slams she's done OK.

kiwifan
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:47 AM
When she wins there's nothing wrong...

...and when she loses, she's a wounded fawn...

...cue the violins. :yawn:

like everyone else she just needs to play better, no excuses. :p

For the record, I'm not hating on her. I like Maria's tennis game.

hingis-seles
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:50 AM
When she wins there's nothing wrong...

...and when she loses, she's a wounded fawn...

...cue the violins. :yawn:

like everyone else she just needs to play better, no excuses. :p

At least she doesn't attribute her losses to single-digit percentages of her ability. :p

Vaidisova Ruled
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:51 AM
When she wins there's nothing wrong...

...and when she loses, she's a wounded fawn...

...cue the violins. :yawn:

like everyone else she just needs to play better, no excuses. :p
what excuses? She didn't gave any excuses.She played like shit. She lost. That's all.

I don't see the point of this thread. And yes Volcana, we know that you had a surgery. You said that already a billion times.

kiwifan
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:59 AM
what excuses? She didn't gave any excuses.She played like shit. She lost. That's all.

Someone mentions her shoulder every time she loses.

Tedious. :yawn:

And when "that other player" loses, even you know she's right that she didn't play her best :p...

...I'm saying the same applies to Pova apologists; when she gets her assests kicked quit going to your crutch...she just lost and needed to play better. Claiming injury every time your fave loses is much more classless than saying your fave didn't play her best. :shrug:

tennis-insomniac
Feb 3rd, 2010, 09:27 AM
don't worry be happy...i know she is and i am happy to see her play no matter how many UE she's made so far
maria is the queen of improvement we'll see her better and better form

Vaidisova Ruled
Feb 3rd, 2010, 09:50 AM
Someone mentions her shoulder every time she loses.

Tedious. :yawn:

And when "that other player" loses, even you know she's right that she didn't play her best :p...

...I'm saying the same applies to Pova apologists; when she gets her assests kicked quit going to your crutch...she just lost and needed to play better. Claiming injury every time your fave loses is much more classless than saying your fave didn't play her best. :shrug:
They don't say that Maria lost because she was injured, but it is true that her injury had a bad impact on her career. She changed her serve in may09, and with that shit serve, all of here game started to look bad :shrug:But now she changed to a better one. And she lost because she was making tons of UE against Kiri. I don't think that she is going to slump this year just because of that.

Nikkiri
Feb 3rd, 2010, 09:55 AM
Okay. :yawn:

duhcity
Feb 3rd, 2010, 10:03 AM
They don't say that Maria lost because she was injured, but it is true that her injury had a bad impact on her career. She changed her serve in may09, and with that shit serve, all of here game started to look bad :shrug:But now she changed to a better one. And she lost because she was making tons of UE against Kiri. I don't think that she is going to slump this year just because of that.

I think anyone with eyes can tell that it's her goddamned FH and how she hit it that fucks up her shoulder. She can go on and on and change that service motion, but if she's going to be that severe with her FH on the shoulder, it's always going to cause problems.

goldenlox
Feb 3rd, 2010, 10:18 AM
I think she has been a different player since she came back.
She won a title, but Jankovic, who is also a mess now, retired in the final.
In the semi, Maria was broken 8 times against Aga. I thought that was a low quality match.
Maria beat Iveta and Alisa to make the semis.
Then Maria lost 26 26 to Peng. Then the kirilenko match.

She is still just coming back from rotator cuff surgery in her serving shoulder.

But not only her serve. Her movement, her groundstrokes, her confidence, her consistency.

Everything looks different to me now

young_gunner913
Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:28 AM
don't worry be happy...i know she is and i am happy to see her play no matter how many UE she's made so far
maria is the queen of improvement we'll see her better and better form

RG: QF, WIM: 3RD, USO: 3RD, AO: 1RD

some improvement.

Corswandt
Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:42 AM
Thread title should read not "Worried About Sharpova" but "Still not *entirely* sure that I can begin dancing over the grave of that loathsome instrument of white oppression - please reassure me."

bandabou
Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:59 AM
It's gonna take time..and much fight for her to get back to where she once was.

mr_burns
Feb 3rd, 2010, 12:10 PM
she will have some good moments at slams, but her consistency won't return...

it's not like she was loosing to quality players in the 4th round or whatever, 3 years ago she would have never lost to those players, I think it's more mental than anything else, and about her serve, of course

VishaalMaria
Feb 3rd, 2010, 12:20 PM
It's a shame because some people are expecting her to get back into her old form and it's not plausible for Maria to do so right now. Any injury and subsequent surgery takes a whole lotta out of you and in this case, for Maria, suddenly it's not about destroying your opponents on court and progressing through tournaments but trying to figure out how to play the game without putting too much strain on your shoulder; thus without that competitive focus you lose some of your nerve.

When you're playing, you're cautious of the surgery that you've had that you're bound to hit more UE's than normal; even two years after having the surgery.

I will say that Maria's past results in slams to me, mean nothing. I'm not particularly a fan but I know she's better than what her results suggest. Even her losses in slams of late, she's been in a winning position and shows some amazing fight. I have to admit, that girl knows how to fight but she's been fallling short. It won't be too long until she finally breaks through, goes deep, and perhaps wins a slam again.

I was watching her RG 09 QF match, and the shots she hit down 0-6 0-5 were amazing. It just made me laugh because if she hit those shots from the start of the match she would have won that match IMHO.

She's matured into such a classy woman, and her mental toughness is up there with Justine and Serena. She's undoubtedly the best competitor of the young-uns.

I wish her the best.

Slutiana
Feb 3rd, 2010, 12:22 PM
She's a world class athlete. I'm not. I'm not even a fan.

But I did have basically the same urgery as her, withing months of her having it. And I'm back to as good as I was before it. Sharapova wan't just a big hitter. She was a consistent hitter. 'Tennis Robot' can be a compliment. Watching her spray backhamd UE's off of routine shots, I wonder about how damaged her shoulder was. Or, if you examine the contra-positive, howdelicate her control really was.

Sharapova's game looked brute force. So did Davenport's. In the case of Davenport, we know, and concede better. Maybe we need to concede the same with MS. Every single tennis thing about the old Sharapova was better than Kirilenko. Mind, emotion, consistency, every shot, decision making, endurance.....

Like Venus losing to Crosby, Stills and Nash at last year's OZ, this is gonna linger til Sharpie makes it go away.
God, you make it sound as if Maria just stood there and hit 97 errors in a row. Sharapova actually began that first round playing pretty well, dominating Kirilenko from the baseline. But Kirilenko cut out the Stosur shanking impressions, started running better and getting a lot more balls back, served well and used her variety (a couple of slices, dropshots, volleying) and most importantly, took her chances. Sharapova did play a bad match and hit a lot of errors, for sure. However after watching it back I saw that a lot of the "unforced" errors came after Kirilenko would jam Sharapova back into the middle of the court with no angles and nowhere to aim at. Sharapova would often miss on the 5th or the 6th shot.

Maria has been playing badly, but it's by no means the end of the road for her. I guess it makes it look even worse when Kim and Justine are coming back and making slam finals and winning one. But at the end of the day Maria has had to go through a lot to get back onto the courts through no decision of her own. Compared with Kim who is completely at peace with her boyfriend/husband (or whatever) and her little daughter and Henin who probably used the 18 months as a secret training block or something :lol:. I don't even like her at all, but even if she doesn't ever get back upto grand slam winning level again and 08 was her peak, I think she'll be a contender again in slams to come. Maybe she's a clay court specialist from now on XD.

RG: QF, WIM: 3RD, USO: 3RD, AO: 1RD

some improvement.
:spit:

Vaidisova Ruled
Feb 3rd, 2010, 01:08 PM
Thread title should read not "Worried About Sharpova" but "Still not *entirely* sure that I can begin dancing over the grave of that loathsome instrument of white oppression - please reassure me."
:lol::worship:

GracefulVenus
Feb 3rd, 2010, 01:12 PM
I would imagine it takes a lot longer for some players and others. Venus, for example, took a couple of years after that ab injury to get back to some semblence of her former self.

There's no doubt she's worked hard to get herself back into form, I guess you just have to say that the results will come eventually.

Agreed. :yeah: Maria's a champion and she knows how to win tournaments and slams. She'll be back.

tennnisfannn
Feb 3rd, 2010, 01:21 PM
Incidentally I just finished reading Serena Williams, Queen of my Court. There was some nsight inot how hard it is mentally and physically to get back after surgery, not to mention the pressure form the press and Nike. They may endorse but they bug you for results. Hopefully maria will b out of the funk soon enough.

Vlover
Feb 3rd, 2010, 02:04 PM
Thread title should read not "Worried About Sharpova" but "Still not *entirely* sure that I can begin dancing over the grave of that loathsome instrument of white oppression - please reassure me."
Spare me the :bs: in '04 when Serena returned from knee surgery and Maria won the Wimbledon finals she was touted as the one to dominate and save women's tennis from the Sisters. When the Sisters were struggling everyone was writing their obituaries but for Pova it is a constant pity party.:rolleyes: Yes, I'm one of those Sister fans who have a long memory and hold grudges.;) While I don't have any hard feelings towards Maria personally, I have no sympathies with her struggles because it gives me pleasure when her biggest fans the media are crestfallen.:lol:

The Witch-king
Feb 3rd, 2010, 02:15 PM
Spare me the :bs: in '04 when Serena returned from knee surgery and Maria won the Wimbledon finals she was touted as the one to dominate and save women's tennis from the Sisters. When the Sisters were struggling everyone was writing their obituaries but for Pova it is a constant pity party.:rolleyes: Yes, I'm one of those Sister fans who have a long memory and hold grudges.;) While I don't have any hard feelings towards Maria personally, I have no sympathies with her struggles because it gives me pleasure when her biggest fans the media are crestfallen.:lol:

when she was out of the tour and she was seen partying/attending celebrity type events i don't recall seeing a single article accusing her of showing disinterest or not respecting tennis blah bla bla etc. And when she came back she was the immediate favourite for titles by the media.

Compare that to Venus & Serena who were finished and "disrespectful" of the tour if they talked up their chances (pat cash :wavey:). Really the double standards are just :help:

on topic, honestly i think this is a phase all players / champions must go through. Call it a test or what have you. But if she can make it through these trying times mentally and also in terms of adjusting her game i think she'll come out as a better player overall (though like Venus she'll have lost the natural consistency she used to have. But imo in terms of technique and tennis Vee is a better player than she was before)

Vaidisova Ruled
Feb 3rd, 2010, 02:16 PM
Spare me the :bs: in '04 when Serena returned from knee surgery and Maria won the Wimbledon finals she was touted as the one to dominate and save women's tennis from the Sisters. When the Sisters were struggling everyone was writing their obituaries but for Pova it is a constant pity party.:rolleyes: Yes, I'm one of those Sister fans who have a long memory and hold grudges.;) While I don't have any hard feelings towards Maria personally, I have no sympathies with her struggles because it gives me pleasure when her biggest fans the media are crestfallen.:lol:
I read a lot of times that some people said that Maria was supposed to "save" tennis.
But I don't understand this and I find this hard to believe because if someone had to be the "Great Hope" it would be Justine because she was the one who was giving Serena problems.
And BTW, apart from here, I have never read anywhere what you say.

when she was out of the tour and she was seen partying/attending celebrity type events i don't recall seeing a single article accusing her of showing disinterest or not respecting tennis blah bla bla etc. And when she came back she was the immediate favourite for titles by the media.

Compare that to Venus & Serena who were finished and "disrespectful" of the tour if they talked up their chances (pat cash :wavey:). Really the double standards are just :help:

Complete BS:help:When Maria was out we had NO news, and NO pictures from her. The only thing we had was videos of Maria training at the Bollitieri academy filmed by an old woman.

doktor
Feb 3rd, 2010, 02:59 PM
I think anyone with eyes can tell that it's her goddamned FH and how she hit it that fucks up her shoulder. She can go on and on and change that service motion, but if she's going to be that severe with her FH on the shoulder, it's always going to cause problems.

i've always thought this

most of the other girls can hit a similar forehand, but use it maybe just one stroke out of 10, maria rips it every time, it seriously cannot be good for the shoulder...

i also think she's feeling the pressure at the moment, you know to break back into the 10, and be where she wants to be... but i rekon once she's in the top 10 again she'll be fine... that little bit of confidence that she lacks at the moment will come back and so will she...

Nico_E
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:02 PM
dont be

her millions of dollars and celebrity around America is enough to keep that massive ego of hers happy

miffedmax
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:25 PM
i've always thought this

most of the other girls can hit a similar forehand, but use it maybe just one stroke out of 10, maria rips it every time, it seriously cannot be good for the shoulder...

i also think she's feeling the pressure at the moment, you know to break back into the 10, and be where she wants to be... but i rekon once she's in the top 10 again she'll be fine... that little bit of confidence that she lacks at the moment will come back and so will she...

Her and Nadal have always had games that are very abusive of their bodies. I'm not surprised she's having problems with that loopy forehand of hers. I do wish TOB would find her form again because right now there's a dearth of players under 27 who can play. I mean we're talking a repeat of what happened in heavyweight boxing after Tyson went down the tubes.

Nicolás89
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:29 PM
Someone mentions her shoulder every time she loses.

Tedious. :yawn:

And when "that other player" loses, even you know she's right that she didn't play her best :p...


All players tend to not play their best when they lose. :sobbing: *common sense*

spartanfan
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:39 PM
I'm not worried about Maria, and mainly it's because I don't really care for her. But from a straight tennis stand point, it's kinda hard to get a feel of where her game really is at this point. She's had a really mixed bag of results since she's come back and I can't really make heads or tails from them. While she has greatly underperfomed at the Slams, she has made two finals and won one (by retirement), she seems to have Azarenka's number and has beaten her twice I think, which while Azarenka isn't the top most informed or consistent player, she's still a good challenger. (Look at how she plays and takes it to Serena). But she still has had some really curious and inexplicable losses to players she- pre-surgery- would have beaten in straight sets: A. Bondaranka, Cibulkova, Na Li, Dulko, Penetta, Oudin, Peng, Kirilenko. Losses to Venus, 2 & 2, I can understand as well as Dementieva as well. I think it May it will mark the two year mark from when her shoulder became a real issue. So I think she's still in the grey area in terms of she's still regaining her confidence or if her should will be a non-factor moving forward. The next few tournaments she plays in should be interesting. I find it interesting that she chose Memphis over Dubai. She either feels that she needs some easy matches in or that she doesn't think she can get far in a draw with 9 out of the top 10 players in. If she doesn't win Memphis, somethings very wrong. But watch how she does there and at IW and Miami. After Miami we should all know where's she at, plus after Miami it will have been pretty much a year that's she's been back post-surgery.

debby
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:57 PM
Maria has not Azarenka's number, she lost to her once, and won the two other times against her 7-5 in third set, it was really close. It could have been gone 3-0 in h2H for Vika.

delicatecutter
Feb 3rd, 2010, 04:06 PM
I wouldn't worry about her too much. She's young. She'll get her form back. And if she doesn't, oh well, there are plenty of other players to choose from.

mashafann
Feb 3rd, 2010, 04:09 PM
Maria has not Azarenka's number, she lost to her once, and won the two other times against her 7-5 in third set, it was really close. It could have been gone 3-0 in h2H for Vika.

:haha::haha::haha::haha:

The Witch-king
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:22 PM
I read a lot of times that some people said that Maria was supposed to "save" tennis.
But I don't understand this and I find this hard to believe because if someone had to be the "Great Hope" it would be Justine because she was the one who was giving Serena problems.
And BTW, apart from here, I have never read anywhere what you say.


Complete BS:help:When Maria was out we had NO news, and NO pictures from her. The only thing we had was videos of Maria training at the Bollitieri academy filmed by an old woman.

hun, even i remember she was at the Miami player party, a few Lakers games, some sponsor type events. I would post pics as evidence but i can't :( but u can search for "down the line tennis blog" on google and u'll find a lot of stuff :hug:

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:26 PM
The next few tournaments she plays in should be interesting. I find it interesting that she chose Memphis over Dubai. She either feels that she needs some easy matches in or that she doesn't think she can get far in a draw with 9 out of the top 10 players in. If she doesn't win Memphis, somethings very wrong. But watch how she does there and at IW and Miami. After Miami we should all know where's she at, plus after Miami it will have been pretty much a year that's she's been back post-surgery.

Me too. She said that she prefers to play Memphis, because it's in America and closer to home or sth like that. It's still a big mystery, though.:confused: The more I think about it, the more I dislike her decision. Playing a tournament with just 1 fellow Top 50 player sounds like she's just out for some easy wins, but on the other hand this has to add alot of pressure on her, because pretty much everyone will expect her to beat them easily. If she succeeds, she'll have some wins, but she will still not know how she holds up against the top players.
I hope a good result in Memphis will give her enough confidence and believe in herself and she'll finally get some quality wins in Indian Wells and Miami.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:33 PM
hun, even i remember she was at the Miami player party, a few Lakers games, some sponsor type events. I would post pics as evidence but i can't :( but u can search for "down the line tennis blog" on google and u'll find a lot of stuff :hug:

True.
As far as I remember, she was at the US Open 2008 players party, a Canon event, a Nike event, Fashion Week, the Bryan Brothers charity auction, another Charity thing, a Vogue event, a Tiffany's party, Lakers games, 2 Cole Haan events, a Sony Ericsson event and the Miami players party.

:lol: That's not exactly no pictures...:p

*edit* I looked it up and we also got Sony Ericsson promo pics, an article called "Sharapova Inc", a video interview and commercials about her collaboration with Cole Haan, a video + interview + editorial/cover for "Women's Health", a video interview + GQ pictures, a spread in California Style magazine, another editorial for Vogue Russia, a new Canon commercial and a Hello Magazine spread.:lol:

We also had pictures from her out and about in Los Angeles, practice pictures and later the videos from the Lady at Bollettieri's.:)

goldenlox
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:35 PM
Memphis makes sense because she hasn't played any matches.
Unless she is really falling apart, Maria should be able to get a few matches in Memphis.
She's only played once since she lost to Peng last year.

spartanfan
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:53 PM
Memphis makes sense because she hasn't played any matches.
Unless she is really falling apart, Maria should be able to get a few matches in Memphis.
She's only played once since she lost to Peng last year.
Well if she was looking for match play then why only two events after the USO? It's not like she got in a lot of matches there. And why no warm up events to the AO this year? Both her and Venus got some bad advice...It's obvious to me that she's not trying to over work her shoulder..

spartanfan
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:55 PM
Maria has not Azarenka's number, she lost to her once, and won the two other times against her 7-5 in third set, it was really close. It could have been gone 3-0 in h2H for Vika.
I thought Sharapova beat Azarenka twice last year: in the Round of 32 in LA, 6-2 in the third and again in China 7-5 in the third also in the round of 32.

Feyd
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:58 PM
Well if she was looking for match play then why only two events after the USO? It's not like she got in a lot of matches there. And why no warm up events to the AO this year? Both her and Venus got some bad advice...It's obvious to me that she's not trying to over work her shoulder..

She wasn't looking for any match play after Beijing. She played 40 matches in four and a half months (probably most anyone has played in that period). She was looking forward to offseason. And she never plays a real tournament before AO anyway.

Monirena Wiles
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:10 PM
People said Maria was burned in 2007. Then she played Justine in that amazing final at the Championships and the next year won Australia. So never count her out. To me she is still in the top 5 of those most likely to win slams.

Feyd
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:15 PM
I wouldn't worry about her too much. She's young. She'll get her form back. And if she doesn't, oh well, there are plenty of other players to choose from.

OK, let's see what we have here.

Ana "Excellent footwork on her ball toss" Ivanovic.
Caroline "Number 3 winner" Wozniacki.
Victoria "I can't blast a serve to save my life" Azeranka.
Agnieszka "I dont' have any racket speed" Radwanska.
Sabine "I spray UEs all over the court" Lisicki.
Dinara "My back is killing me" Safina.
Yanina "I cannot beat a top player" Wickmayer.

Yeah, there are plenty to choose from among the younger generation.

Matt01
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:23 PM
Thread title should read not "Worried About Sharpova" but "Still not *entirely* sure that I can begin dancing over the grave of that loathsome instrument of white oppression - please reassure me."


:lol: :spit:

miffedmax
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:39 PM
OK, let's see what we have here.

Ana "Excellent footwork on her ball toss" Ivanovic.
Caroline "Number 3 winner" Wozniacki.
Victoria "I can't blast a serve to save my life" Azeranka.
Agnieszka "I dont' have any racket speed" Radwanska.
Sabine "I spray UEs all over the court" Lisicki.
Dinara "My back is killing me" Safina.
Yanina "I cannot beat a top player" Wickmayer.

Yeah, there are plenty to choose from among the younger generation.

You left out a few...

Alexa "The Dog Ate My Career" Glatch
Laura "I'm British So It's Only A Matter Of Time Before I Suck" Robson
Carla "No, Really I Swear I Beat Venus and Made A Slam QF Once" Suarez Navarro
Michelle "If Only I Made As Much Noise In the Rankings As I Do On Court" Larcher DeBrito
Alize "From the Next Mauresmo to the Next Dechy In 6 Months" Cornet
Alisa "I Make Davenport Look Light on Her Feet" Kleybanova

Brooks.
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:49 PM
Maria will win at least 1 more slam. For sure.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:36 PM
You left out a few...

Alexa "The Dog Ate My Career" Glatch
Laura "I'm British So It's Only A Matter Of Time Before I Suck" Robson
Carla "No, Really I Swear I Beat Venus and Made A Slam QF Once" Suarez Navarro
Michelle "If Only I Made As Much Noise In the Rankings As I Do On Court" Larcher DeBrito
Alize "From the Next Mauresmo to the Next Dechy In 6 Months" Cornet
Alisa "I Make Davenport Look Light on Her Feet" Kleybanova

:hearts: Alisa totally reminds me of young Lindsay.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:13 PM
Sharapova is finished. Stick a fork in her.

HRHoliviasmith
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:14 PM
Maria will win at least 1 more slam. For sure.

Unfortunately I think so, too. :o

mashafann
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:18 PM
Worried about you.

goldenlox
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:28 PM
I dont remember a young Lindsay, but a 20 something Lindsay was much steadier than Alisa.
I dont think Lansdorp would have let Alisa play the style she plays

play2win_win4fun
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:30 PM
Unfortunately I think so, too. :o

Oh stop it and admit it. You totally LOVE Masha :p

pokey camp
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:44 PM
Oh yay. Another passive aggressive Volcana on Maria thread. Oh so worried about Sharapova! :scared: :sad:

http://i47.tinypic.com/t9xijm.jpg

Like hell you are. But thanks for the laugh. :lol:

VishaalMaria
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:48 PM
Why are all the GIFS of that woman!!

pokey camp
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:52 PM
:hearts: Alisa totally reminds me of young Lindsay.
Aside from weight and body type, I've never gotten this comparison. :confused: Lindsay's shots were clean and technically sound whereas Alisa is a glitchy mess.

goldenlox
Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:58 PM
Alisa's mechanics are pretty good, from what Brad Gilbert said.
But Lindsay had consistency and the ability to construct points. Lansdorp taught that to Maria also

gc-spurs
Feb 3rd, 2010, 09:04 PM
Maria will win at least 1 more slam. For sure.

4 slams would be an underachievment

pokey camp
Feb 3rd, 2010, 09:14 PM
Oh stop it and admit it. You totally LOVE Masha :p
Oh of course she does. She just doesn't know how to express it. ;)

Why are all the GIFS of that woman!!
What can I say? :shrug: I STILL got love for New York. :o :help:

Feyd
Feb 3rd, 2010, 09:44 PM
Unfortunately I think so, too. :o

You know, you have more faith in Sharapova than some of her fans.

Dunlop1
Feb 3rd, 2010, 10:02 PM
Alisa's mechanics are pretty good, from what Brad Gilbert said.
But Lindsay had consistency and the ability to construct points. Lansdorp taught that to Maria also

The problem with Kleybanova is not the mechanics of her stroke. Those are standard.
It is her form, specifically her head movement during her stroke that is the problem.

When you are told to keep your eyes on the ball, it is not for the purpose of seeing the ball.
It is to keep your head still. Keeping your head still during contact increases your chances of making clean contact and thus timing the ball better.
Alisa jerks her head during contact and forcefully generates the pace on her groundstrokes.

She is NOTHING like Davenport who had clean classic strokes and generated great weight on her groundstrokes seemingly through great form and timing, making it seem almost effortless.

Dunlop1
Feb 3rd, 2010, 10:03 PM
Oh and to stay on topic, it's all about her serve.

If she starts serving well again, of course she can win slams.

But without her serve, not going to happen.

DontGetItTwisted
Feb 3rd, 2010, 10:38 PM
It's only mental. She'll sort it out eventually. I wish her all the best!

DontGetItTwisted
Feb 3rd, 2010, 10:43 PM
Oh yay. Another passive aggressive Volcana on Maria thread. Oh so worried about Sharapova! :scared: :sad:

http://i47.tinypic.com/t9xijm.jpg

Like hell you are. But thanks for the laugh. :lol:

New York :spit: :rolls: :sobbing:

madmax
Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:02 PM
Knowing FighterPova and her will to battle through obstacles, I have no doubt in her ability to win at least few slams in the future. She didn't even play badly last fall - won a Premier title and reached a final of another, showing some glimpses of her amazing ground game in the process:bowdown:

DefyingGravity
Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:09 PM
She has no excuses anymore. She's always had issues with people who could scramble, return her shots, and make her run. It was never out of the question she could lose to Kirilenko or Dulko before, because they do that. What has happened since the shoulder debacle is that her killer instinct isn't so killer, and she just looks more confused than anything. When Maria plays as if she has nothing to lose (cue: Roland Garros 2009), she plays damn well. When she feels as though she should go in and win the tournament, she loses (cue: Wimbledon, USO 2009, and AO 2010). Not to say she doesn't expect to win every tournament she enters, but it's almost as if she's got doubts in her game now, and that's what's making her human. The other girls just know that they have a chance against her now, as long as they make her move and get her shots back.

Szavay #1
Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:15 PM
imo she's still a champion so i really believe that masha has more slams in her. she just needs to get her confidence back.

Helen Lawson
Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:29 PM
Maybe Nike should do for her what it did for Serena, fly a representative to the next slam and tell her if she doesn't make the quarters, they will cancel her contract. It worked wonders for Serena.

Vartan
Feb 4th, 2010, 12:09 AM
Maybe Nike should do for her what it did for Serena, fly a representative to the next slam and tell her if she doesn't make the quarters, they will cancel her contract. It worked wonders for Serena.

:lol::crying2:

saska77
Feb 4th, 2010, 04:29 AM
I second that. She will never win another grand slam (unless by some miracle both the Williams sisters and the top Belgians all simultaneously disappear from the scene.

She was never as good as her hyped-up rep anyway. How ridiculous it was that she was touted as someone who was going to 'save' tennis from the power-dominated game of the Williams sisters DESPITE the fact that her style was nothing but power play!! That exposes the non-sport-agenda and motivation of those who were doing the touting. The fact is the only exiting thing about her game was her grunt.

The funny thing is not only is Sharaopva's talent exaggerated but her physique as well. Basically Maria is nothing but a flat-chested siberian ostrich with an OK hairdo. Other than that it's all empty hype. She always shows up in some Hollywood or east-coast media event so the media loves her. No doubt she is their darling.

What a blasphemy that idiot Yanks branded her as the next Kournikova! She isn't even good looking enough to kiss Ana Ivanovic's feet.

:help::rolleyes:

Caralenko
Feb 4th, 2010, 04:42 AM
Oh and to stay on topic, it's all about her serve.
If she starts serving well again, of course she can win slams.
But without her serve, not going to happen.

If you saw her match against Kirilenko you'd be saying the same thing about her strokes :tape: :sobbing:

bandabou
Feb 4th, 2010, 08:34 AM
The agony of the media...the supposed savior of tennis against the bad Williams sisters herself is down and almost counted out. While the sisters are still winning majors.

Nobody gave the sisters a chance to come back, now they all crying for Maria?! Good luck, Masha..the world is counting on you.

Cloon76
Feb 4th, 2010, 11:39 AM
Maria has not Azarenka's number, she lost to her once, and won the two other times against her 7-5 in third set, it was really close. It could have been gone 3-0 in h2H for Vika.

The first match they played was 2007 which Vika won , however in LA in 2009 Sharapova won 6-2 in the third and i don't remeber it being that close in the end so its not 3-0 to Azarenka its 2-1 sharapova

Love both girls by the way !!:)

Randy H
Feb 4th, 2010, 12:16 PM
I think part of Maria's problem since coming back is that she was tinkering around with the form of her serve in order to avoid re-injuring the shoulder. Finally she's gone back to a full swing, but I think she needs to just pick what she's going to do and stick with it, as that's the only way she's going to develop confidence in the shot again. When you're not making up your mind on anything in tennis, it's always going to end up with making mistakes. She's hitting the shots fine in practice, but confidence is what makes you hit the shots you need when it's a real match...I think we'll have a better idea of where she's heading by the summer.

Vlover
Feb 4th, 2010, 01:28 PM
The agony of the media...the supposed savior of tennis against the bad Williams sisters herself is down and almost counted out. While the sisters are still winning majors.

Nobody gave the sisters a chance to come back, now they all crying for Maria?! Good luck, Masha..the world is counting on you.
I'm not going to lie because it does give me pleasure to watch and hear them agonize over Pova's struggles!:lol: They were all salivating and expecting a better performance on her return in order to challenge the Sisters but a big disappointment for them, so now they are on the Belgian's bandwagon for the moment.:lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Feb 4th, 2010, 01:45 PM
I second that. She will never win another grand slam (unless by some miracle both the Williams sisters and the top Belgians all simultaneously disappear from the scene.

She was never as good as her hyped-up rep anyway. How ridiculous it was that she was touted as someone who was going to 'save' tennis from the power-dominated game of the Williams sisters DESPITE the fact that her style was nothing but power play!! That exposes the non-sport-agenda and motivation of those who were doing the touting. The fact is the only exiting thing about her game was her grunt.

The funny thing is not only is Sharaopva's talent exaggerated but her physique as well. Basically Maria is nothing but a flat-chested siberian ostrich with an OK hairdo. Other than that it's all empty hype. She always shows up in some Hollywood or east-coast media event so the media loves her. No doubt she is their darling.

What a blasphemy that idiot Yanks branded her as the next Kournikova! She isn't even good looking enough to kiss Ana Ivanovic's feet.

between this and cocktail pova...I can't, I just can't. :sobbing:

Monirena Wiles
Feb 4th, 2010, 02:05 PM
I am not even a Sharapova fan but reckonize how ignorant so many people are. Everyone saying that Sharapova wont win again are fools. Venus lost in the first round of majors, so has Justine, and a lot of other great players. Sharapova does get overhyped, but at the same time a lot of people underestimate her. If she plays Serena another five times, she will beat her at least once. People act like Sharapova is an imposter and forget that she is a three time slam champion and former world number one. I can just as easy imagine her beating Clijsters, Venus, and Justine this year if she plays them.

Olórin
Feb 4th, 2010, 04:11 PM
God I thought I was overdramatic :lol:

:rolleyes: Give the girl a break - she is going through a tough time and we should all just hope she can recover her game because if she packs it in, that would be a blow to women's tennis.

miffedmax
Feb 4th, 2010, 04:38 PM
God I thought I was overdramatic :lol:

:rolleyes: Give the girl a break - she is going through a tough time and we should all just hope she can recover her game because if she packs it in, that would be a blow to women's tennis.

Yep. Although I have to admit I RELISHED that Toronto final...:devil:

The utter disarray of the under-27 set in the WTA right now is not good for the sport. I mean, unless you think John Ruiz really should be mentioned in the same breath as Ali or Frasier...or even Tyson or Foreman...or hell, even Johanssen...

Vaidisova Ruled
Feb 4th, 2010, 04:54 PM
C'mon it's a bit of fun. It's like giving somebody one's own medicine. I don't think anyone is saying that pova can't play good tennis. But one can't resist the fun of pulling a mile-high floating balloon down to the ground.
You seem like a really funny person with a :haha: sense of humour

Craig.
Feb 4th, 2010, 07:51 PM
The agony of the media...the supposed savior of tennis against the bad Williams sisters herself is down and almost counted out. While the sisters are still winning majors.

Nobody gave the sisters a chance to come back, now they all crying for Maria?! Good luck, Masha..the world is counting on you.

Oh hello Dawn Marie :weirdo: