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18majors
Aug 23rd, 2011, 02:05 PM
Good luck, Caroline.

18majors
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:44 PM
Carolline won 1st set 6-2 and leads 1-0 in the 2nd set.

Christork17
Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:55 PM
Break *2-0
Saved 4 BP but not the 5th 2-1*
*2-2
3-2*
*4-2
4-3*
*4-4
4-5* :[
4-6...

Zin
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:59 PM
She lost :(
So disappointing after leading *4-2 in the 2nd set...

18majors
Aug 23rd, 2011, 11:59 PM
Better luck next time, Caroline.

Iceland
Aug 24th, 2011, 08:38 AM
I've just realized she was twice up a break in the 2nd. Gosh, what a disappointment. :sad: She has plenty of time to do well in Grand Slams of course, but it would have been really fun to follow her a bit longer in this open.
Hope she works on how to deal better with the frustration of losing her lead in a match. It's not the first match which she has lost after blowing away a comfortable lead.

améliemomo
Aug 24th, 2011, 09:59 AM
yes disappointing result cause she was in control of this match:(

you're right Antoine, I've noticed that too in Caroline. She hates when things dont turn her way, get frustrated and lose her focus. She has to work on that side of her temper. She 's playing with pro, this is not Junior tour. She's among players who are fighting all year long on itf like kulikova. At 4-2 second set, I was hoping her to win that very important game. She didnt, that was the turn around.

Still work to do before enter top100.

Turnip
Aug 24th, 2011, 01:44 PM
:( Caroline..

18majors
Aug 24th, 2011, 02:46 PM
Caroline is young and she has time to get better and better.

améliemomo
Sep 4th, 2011, 10:29 AM
Caroline playing US OPEN Junior(hopefully the last:o )

the organisators gave her the n°1 seed, why??Dont know:p

Very tough and tricky draw with lot of talented players, many americans such as Vickery or Madison Keys.
Here the draw:

(1)Caroline Garcia (FRA) vs. So-Ra Lee (KOR)
(WC)Peggy Porter (USA) vs. Barbara Haas (AUT)
(WC)Sachia Vickery (USA) vs. Iva Mekovec (CRO)
(13)Anett Kontaveit (EST) vs. Alexandra Kiick (USA)

(12)Madison Keys (USA) vs. Emily Fanning (NZL)
Francoise Abanda (CAN) vs. Zarah Razafimahatratra (MAD)
Victoria Duval (USA) vs. (Q)Ana Sofia Sanchez (MEX)
(5)Daria Gavrilova (RUS) vs. Akaya Okuno (JPN)

Go Caro!

Zin
Sep 4th, 2011, 11:49 AM
the organisators gave her the n°1 seed, why??Dont know:p
As a top 150 player, she was automatically given the first seed :p

This is Caro's last chance to win a junior grand slam. I don't see Kontaveit or Vickery cause her any problem, but Keys will be a tough challenge for sure. And Putintseva is in the other half of the draw, good news :)
It would be a pity if Caro didn't reach a junior grand slam final, I think she really deserves it. Good luck Caro :rocker2:

améliemomo
Sep 4th, 2011, 12:29 PM
ah oui vu comme ça c logique:lol::p

Keys was very impressive in her game. Never saw her play and I think she's a great american prospect.

Vickery beat Putintseva at the Canadian open;)

we'll see good tournament caro!

18majors
Sep 4th, 2011, 11:32 PM
Caroline won R1 6-3 6-2.

améliemomo
Sep 8th, 2011, 09:34 AM
yes saw that too:) I was wondering what her shedule will be after this US Open, if she'll get back back to european claycourt tournament. She's on the entry list of 100K Sofia and 100K Saint-Malo.

Quebec City is a good wta tournament and a nice place where Caroline hopefully will feel good. Dont know her programm next, will she stay on hard courts or get back to clay?

I think it will depend on her results there.

Will she ever play and finish that US Open Junior with all this rain??:rolleyes::rolleyes::help:

améliemomo
Sep 9th, 2011, 09:42 AM
yes big upsets in the draw with very tricky american players.

Duval is impressive but hopefully Caro will produce some inspired tennis to her.
Allez Caroline!

Maza1987
Sep 9th, 2011, 10:04 PM
is into the semis
comon

Corswandt
Sep 9th, 2011, 10:42 PM
Caroline is into the maindraw of WTA Quebec City! :D

Maybe her team forgot to w/d? :oh:

Draw is bad - toughest unseeded player she could have got, arguably a tougher opponent than some of the seeds actually. Previous history isn't encouraging either.

But it's good that she's giving another go at this after last year; the old skool carpet at Québec is virtually extinct these days, but The Only Caroline That Matters seems to actually try to become familiar with all sorts of playing surfaces, unlike most Euro youngsters.

Sam L
Sep 10th, 2011, 10:54 AM
Allez Caro! Win it all.

18majors
Sep 10th, 2011, 05:31 PM
It will be great if Caroline wins a grand slam junior title before turning 18.

Christork17
Sep 10th, 2011, 07:22 PM
6-3, 6-2 vs Barty !
Final vs Grace Min or Gibbs

18majors
Sep 10th, 2011, 07:54 PM
One more win Caroline.

Corswandt
Sep 10th, 2011, 11:18 PM
I think she may bottle the final, but I don't really care. Junior Slams are irrelevant.

Sam L
Sep 11th, 2011, 07:31 AM
Yeah I don't care either but it would be nice to finish off juniors on a high note. :)

Sam L
Sep 11th, 2011, 10:48 AM
Allez Caro!

Corswandt
Sep 11th, 2011, 04:22 PM
Yeah I don't care either but it would be nice to finish off juniors on a high note. :)

Plus I was just thinking that it will be good for her confidence if she wins. Learning how to win several matches in a row and how to win finals, even at a level below the one she already is, is something she needs to do and might as well start now.

So I suppose I'll go "who cares?" only if she does bottle it. :lol:

18majors
Sep 11th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Please do it, Caroline.

s teddy
Sep 11th, 2011, 07:44 PM
:(

She lost 7-5 7-6.

She served for the second set, but got broken at 15. Then she went down 6-0 in the tiebreaker before losing 6-3.

Corswandt
Sep 11th, 2011, 09:20 PM
Our Caroline doesn't seem to be very good at this thing called "winning". Not unduly worried as that will come with experience.

Anglo twitterers were having a field day with Caroline's bratty tantrums - further evidence (as if any was needed) that all you get out of playing juniors are a lot of bad habits.

Corswandt
Sep 12th, 2011, 01:02 AM
She just cannot win finals. :o

Toria used to be the same, and now she's Da GOAT.

Sam L
Sep 12th, 2011, 10:02 AM
It's ok. Great junior careers almost never turn into great senior careers anyway.

She has weaknesses that she should know by now and should work on.

Allez Caro! :)

Corswandt
Sep 12th, 2011, 12:14 PM
She has weaknesses that she should know by now and should work on.

The games of our faves never have any weaknesses. They're just headcases. :angel:

Some photos of Caroline moping and then with the RU plate:

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/6qmefC7EmAL/2011+US+Open+Day+14/nVr6VREYfRi/Caroline+Garcia

Corswandt
Sep 12th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Article + photos describing Caroline's freakout in all its glory:

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2011/09/12/junior-hotshot-loses-her-cool/

améliemomo
Sep 12th, 2011, 07:51 PM
she's behaving the wrong way in matchs final. Too tense and negative.
She has to learn how to keep cool and relaxed no matter what. She can still improve in that psychologic side of her game.

Good luck in Quebec!

Maza1987
Sep 14th, 2011, 12:57 AM
is into a final set v erakovic in quebec.
comon

s teddy
Sep 14th, 2011, 02:11 AM
She lost, 4-6, 6-4, 4-6. :hug:

She seemed to be serving quite well, though. :eek: Well, except for 9 double faults.

When/where does she play next?

améliemomo
Sep 14th, 2011, 09:46 AM
Caro so close:hug:

well about her programm, she wont play on clay. She'll get back to France and seems like she'll play 25K Clermont-Ferrand. This tournament start on 26 of September.

Corswandt
Sep 14th, 2011, 11:01 AM
This was played on the secondary court, so she could easily have tanked this 1 and 1 since "nobody was looking", but instead actually contested the match. That's a good sign.

well about her programm, she wont play on clay. She'll get back to France and seems like she'll play 25K Clermont-Ferrand. This tournament start on 26 of September.

Good. Clay sux.

W/D from St. Malo 100K. Currently #5 in the Clermont-Ferrand MD list. Related question: do all 25Ks' MD lists look this strong a couple of weeks before starting? As of now, it's better than that of many 50Ks played this season.

améliemomo
Sep 14th, 2011, 02:38 PM
well I think clay is cool when you know how to play on it lol:p

I think caroline decision not to play on it is logic cause the transition hard-clay is not something she needed to do. She plans I think to play on hard till the end of this season. She'll turn 18 in one month and then will be free to play as much as she wants. She can still play 2 more tournaments before her birthday. 2 french itf: Clermont ferrand (25K) and Joue les Tours (50K).

As for the strong field in 25K Clermont Ferrand, well it is usually like that in french itf at the end of the season. Not many wta tournaments left, most of them located in asia so many european good players playing itf to get points easily.

Corswandt
Sep 20th, 2011, 03:45 PM
She can still play 2 more tournaments before her birthday. 2 french itf: Clermont ferrand (25K) and Joue les Tours (50K).

Withdrew from Clermont-Ferrand.

améliemomo
Sep 20th, 2011, 03:57 PM
yes just saw it. Probably needs more time to rest. Time to get back home.

Renaud
Sep 24th, 2011, 06:32 PM
OPEN BAIE DE SOMME
Ligue: PICARDIE
10 000 €
Surface GREEN SET

QF: [4]GARCIA Caroline d. PICHET Virginie 4/6 2/1 ab.
SF: VAN UYTVANCT Alison d. [4]GARCIA Caroline 6/3 6/3 :tape:

VAN UYTVANCT d.
RAMALALAHARIVOLOLONA N,
VONGSOUTHI Stéphanie,
[1]PIRONKOVA Tsvetana,
[4]GARCIA Caroline,
final lost [3]CETKOVSKA Petra 3-6 3-6 :wavey:

Corswandt
Sep 24th, 2011, 07:13 PM
OPEN BAIE DE SOMME
Ligue: PICARDIE
10 000 €
Surface GREEN SET

J'ai cherché dans la section des CNGTs au de la FFT et je n'ai trouvé l'Open de la Baie de Somme, mais le site de l'Open même le classifique de CNGT. Un peu surréal que ces tournois sont classifiés comme "amateurs", mais sont sanctionnés para la FFT et offrent des prix monnetaires quand même

Corswandt
Sep 26th, 2011, 12:18 AM
So she's playing that Georgian clay 50K. MD isn't available yet, but she'll be seeded.

Corswandt
Sep 26th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Let's just hope her team doesn't pull a Jovanovski and ends up flying to Tel Aviv in Israel instead. :scared:

Iceland
Sep 26th, 2011, 12:44 PM
So she's playing that Georgian clay 50K. MD isn't available yet, but she'll be seeded.
How do you know that by the way? She isn't in the entry list.

Corswandt
Sep 26th, 2011, 01:56 PM
How do you know that by the way? She isn't in the entry list.

She still was on the .pdf version available at Tennis Europe, which was the one I checked yesterday, while failing to notice that it hadn't been updated since 9.09.

Just checked ITF website and it gives automatic withdrawal in 13.09 due to having entered a higher priority event (Clermont-Ferrand).

Sorry. I'm trying to learn all this stuff, but on a DIY, trial and error basis, in case you haven't noticed yet. :o

améliemomo
Sep 26th, 2011, 06:11 PM
she's not playing Clermont nor Joues-les-Tours:shrug:

as for this tourny Baie de Somme 10K, it was a former tourny she played when?Last year no?

Lighter
Sep 26th, 2011, 07:16 PM
J'ai cherché dans la section des CNGTs au de la FFT et je n'ai trouvé l'Open de la Baie de Somme, mais le site de l'Open même le classifique de CNGT. Un peu surréal que ces tournois sont classifiés comme "amateurs", mais sont sanctionnés para la FFT et offrent des prix monnetaires quand mêmeMD here : http://www.fft.fr/sites/default/files/cngt_baiedesomme_f2011.pdf

she's not playing Clermont nor Joues-les-Tours:shrug:

as for this tourny Baie de Somme 10K, it was a former tourny she played when?Last year no?Ten days ago. And Pichet led 6-4 1-2 before to retire.

juki
Oct 16th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Caroline turns 18 today :)

Happy Birthday :cheer:

Back in action at Limoges 50k, playing a qualifier first round.

Corswandt
Oct 16th, 2011, 10:12 PM
Joyeux anniversaire, Caroline! :bdaycake:

Playing Limoges but not Poitiers; she withdrew from that. Don't know if she's still on any other entry list for that week.

This is her quarter of the draw in Limoges:

9 HLAVACKOVA, A (CZE) 4
10 RISKE, A (USA)

11 Q
12 JUGIC-SALKIC, M (BIH)

13 Q
14 GARCIA, C (FRA)

15 KRUNIC, A (SRB)
16 PANOVA, A (RUS) 8

juki
Oct 16th, 2011, 11:07 PM
^^ Caroline is playing 75k Barnstaple instead of Poitiers.

améliemomo
Oct 17th, 2011, 11:14 AM
Joyeux Anniversaire Caroline!:kiss:

now she'll be able to play every tournament she wants. She has many points to defend from her 2010 year end. She made the SF in Limoges and R2 in Poitiers. Hopefully she'll be able to defend it and gain more points till the end of this year.

Corswandt
Oct 19th, 2011, 10:47 AM
So, huh... I suppose we all know the score?

Alwaysfan
Oct 19th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Overvalued player yet

améliemomo
Oct 20th, 2011, 10:00 AM
she didnt ask for all this hype. Still much of work to do for her to have big breakthrough.

disappointing loss there but she's still alive in doubles, reached SF with her Saint-Gaudens partner Aurelie Vedy. They won it earlier.

Go girls!

Elwin.
Oct 23rd, 2011, 10:37 AM
Garcia/Krajicek will team up in Barnstaple :)

Corswandt
Oct 23rd, 2011, 03:32 PM
Playing doubles is what scrubs do to cover their travel expenses. Caroline should ditch that shit.

Maza1987
Oct 23rd, 2011, 04:04 PM
Playing doubles is what scrubs do to cover their travel expenses. Caroline should ditch that shit.

No, I believe dubs can improve younger players develop an all round game. It can only help at this age.

Corswandt
Oct 24th, 2011, 12:19 PM
No, I believe dubs can improve younger players develop an all round game. It can only help at this age.

If one assumes that successful doubles player = good volleyer, maybe. Thing is, I'm yet to see any evidence that such a direct correlation actually exists as a rule.

Covering the net in singles is completely different than doing so in doubles. Same for approaching the net - in singles you have to hit a good enough approach, in doubles most of the time you're already there.

Doubles are useful as light practice and, like I said, they helps scrubs pay the bills. Other than that, no point in playing them.

Corswandt
Oct 24th, 2011, 10:31 PM
Barnstaple 1R vs Minella.

améliemomo
Oct 25th, 2011, 10:10 AM
tough draw she got there but well she chose being there.

Minella is playing well these time. Just play good Caro

good to play doubles imo, for training her serve and return.Krajicek is very good too.


ALLEZ!!

améliemomo
Oct 26th, 2011, 10:16 AM
she lost 6-4 6-7(6) 4-6:(

not that far from top 100 but she's lacking killer instinct. She must work on that and be more nasty when she s leading. She should have won in 2.

still has double with krajicek.

Corswandt
Oct 31st, 2011, 03:11 PM
The Only Caroline That Matters hasn't won enough to warrant a slump.

1R at Nantes vs a WC ranked 900+ (actual results better than such ranking would indicate though).

améliemomo
Nov 1st, 2011, 12:29 PM
well Caro actual form is not that good and seems like Nantes is her last tournament this season.

dont see her on the next tournaments entry list, she withdrew from many of them. Not a bad thing imo, better for her to work hard in the off season to be real threat in 2012. Perhaps working on different things to add more options in her game when it is close. More variety in her game and the willness to do so on matchs. If I was her coach I would make her work in that direction.

she has potential but she has to work in a smart way to fullfil it.

Boomer23
Nov 1st, 2011, 11:05 PM
I'm going to see her match tomorrow, I'll do a mini-report.

améliemomo
Nov 21st, 2011, 02:35 PM
caroline back on court this week playing Toyota Open (75K):)

her draw:

(3)Michaella Krajicek (NED) v So-Jung Kim (KOR)
Elina Svitolina (UKR) v Yaroslava Shvedova (KAZ)
Tadeja Majeric (SLO) v (wc)Mari Tanaka (JPN)
(8)Caroline Garcia (FRA) v (Q)Yuka Higuchi (JPN)

she's pairing with krajicek in doubles playing Chan/Chen (TPE)

améliemomo
Nov 23rd, 2011, 12:59 PM
Toyota Open 75K

R1 (8) Caroline Garcia (FRA) def (Q) Yuka Higushi (JPN) 6-3 6-3

and Caro doing well in doubles too: (4) Garcia/Krajicek def Chan/Chen 6-4 6-4

next opponent: Tadeja Majeric (SLO)

Allez Caro:)

améliemomo
Nov 24th, 2011, 11:51 AM
lost to Majeric after won first set AGAIN:(

really has to work on how finishing a close match. Dont know if her actual coach suits her that good neither. Imo she must add variety and tactical sense in her game. This will help her to win more matchs imo.

she's in semi finale in doubles.

(4)Garcia/Krajicek (FRA/NED) d. Tezuka/Yonemura (JPN/JPN) 64 64

go girls!

Corswandt
Nov 24th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Probably panicking at the realisation that she's just not a good competitor. You can't learn how to win - you either know how to or you don't, and sooner or later she'll have to come to terms with that. She's got more than enough game to overcome this - IF she doesn't let herself become too disheartened at the prospect of forever remaining an underachiever.

améliemomo
Nov 28th, 2011, 11:51 AM
tough to say how her achievement will be. She must believe more in herself for sure especially against less talented players.

she's back this week in Dubai 75000$.

First round against wild card Conny Perrin (SUI)

Allez!

améliemomo
Nov 28th, 2011, 02:40 PM
yes and seems like she wont play any wta tournament before the Oz,

dont really like her actual coach to be honest and dont think he'll give her that "extra thing" that she needs now.

Amélie former coach, Loic Courteau would have been so good for her but atp french players stole him:(

Iceland
Nov 29th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Lost to Perrin 64 16 63.
Caro would just lose to anybody decent anyway. She's mentally exhausted, torn between the too high expectations she and her coach have set and the frustration of losing a lot of matches.
Shame for her, she had always been on a rise before... Hope she gets out of this soon enough.

améliemomo
Nov 29th, 2011, 01:19 PM
hopefully her off season preparation will be excellent:singer:

Antoine do you know about her 2012 schedule?

Renaud
Nov 30th, 2011, 11:33 PM
Video :lol:

link: www.ouest-france.fr (http://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/actualite-video_-Tennis.-Le-quiz-avec-Alize-Cornet-et-Caroline-Garcia_3638-2006989--------23995_actu.Htm)

http://tll.kewego.com/t/0/0280/400x300_iLyROoaf2P-e_2.jpg

améliemomo
Dec 1st, 2011, 11:04 AM
good to see Caroline outside the court laughing and smiling:)

alize is funny too bad her tennis is not like her personality:p

merci renaud!;)

Renaud
Dec 1st, 2011, 07:12 PM
good to see Caroline outside the court laughing and smiling:)


NIKE/CAROLINE GARCIA
http://vimeo.com/23955110

;)

améliemomo
Dec 2nd, 2011, 09:47 AM
nice vid!:D

thanks renaud:kiss:

she seems very enjoying the photoshooting stuff and the shoes are nice too

Geoffrey91
Dec 2nd, 2011, 10:57 AM
I'm sure that Caroline would be more pleasant with another haircut. That's bad.

Corswandt
Dec 5th, 2011, 04:08 PM
NIKE/CAROLINE GARCIA
http://vimeo.com/23955110

Oh my.

*sighs*

They probably thought the same that I (and Murray) did: "No, really, she's not like those other useless no-hopers with nothing games - she has so much game she doesn't know what to do with it. It's a sure thing, take my word."

*sighs*

améliemomo
Dec 6th, 2011, 04:09 PM
lol

I would like her to be more versatile player, she reminds me more and more of Amélie

Amélie was big hitter at first,then got injured and had to put more variety in her game.She had so many weapons that yes it was tough to know what to do. Caroline has to put more variety in her game too.
I wish her to play in fed cup with amélie as the captain, hopefully when she'll turn 19 so next year. I think she could learn much from her and pass another step.

caro is in the ANKARA entry list starting in 19 of december.

améliemomo
Dec 19th, 2011, 01:06 PM
ITF 50000$ ANKARA


(5)Caroline Garcia (FRA) v Elena Bogdan (ROU)
(wc)Naz Karagoz (TUR) v Q/LL
Kiki Bertens (NED) v Severine Beltrame (FRA)
(2)Alexandra Cadantu (ROU) v (SR)Katalin Marosi (HUN)

Go Caro!

Renaud
Dec 19th, 2011, 04:38 PM
Stage féminim d'avant saison à St Cyprien
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn3pbj_stage-feminim-d-avant-saison-a-st-cyprien_sport

EdF? :)

améliemomo
Dec 19th, 2011, 04:58 PM
hope so for caroline to be in the french fed cup team next year

I know nicolas escude was in St Cyprien during this preparation week so he watched all the girls I think but he'll make his decision after the Australian Open;)

Caro has a 2nd round to defend so wont be easy, hope she'll do even better there but we'll see. Would like to see Caro and Kristina pairing in 2012, would be great I think:)

thanks for the vid renaud, very nice:D

améliemomo
Dec 20th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Caro def Elena Bogdan (ROU) 6-2 6-4:)

will face Laura-Ioana Andrei next

Corswandt
Dec 20th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Caro def Elena Bogdan (ROU) 6-2 6-4:)

Bogdan probably hit herself out of the match before The Only Caroline That Matters had time to choke.

Iceland
Dec 21st, 2011, 03:17 PM
Caroline through 61 62 against Andrei. Not enough to choke it away either...
She faces Kiki Bertens in QF.

améliemomo
Dec 21st, 2011, 04:29 PM
well done caro:)

go against bertens!

améliemomo
Dec 22nd, 2011, 02:45 PM
lost 4 and 3 to Bertens:o

disappointing loss and she got no break point to her opponent serve. Dont know what happened there but she showed much better form earlier this season:(


well one week of rest now, her next tournamenent will be in 2012 in Quanzhou (50K)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Caroline:wavey:

Corswandt
Dec 25th, 2011, 10:44 PM
I suppose she didn't want to ruin her Christmas by going too deep into this.

But her results overall have been those of a #200-250 range scrub for a while now. And talent without results won't do unless you're playing on the ATP (Gasquet and a ton of others).

Corswandt
Jan 2nd, 2012, 08:56 PM
Caroline is gradually making her way eastward by playing Quanzhou 50K. 1R vs Namigata.

Renaud
Jan 4th, 2012, 12:38 PM
7-5 6-2 :bounce:

next
GOJNEA Madalina (ROU) d. WEBLEY-SMITH Emily (GBR) 6-0 6-2

Iceland
Jan 4th, 2012, 12:41 PM
That's a pretty decent win. Namigata isn't a relevant player at all and Caroline rightfully didn't waste too much energy on her.
Gojnea should be a much tougher opponent. It should tell us about her chances to qualify to the AO MD.

améliemomo
Jan 4th, 2012, 05:23 PM
Yes good indicator of her actual level

Allez Caro rise up!

juki
Jan 4th, 2012, 07:55 PM
I thinks it's impossible to determine her actual "level", because her matches are currently playing out the same way no matter who her opponent is. She could lose to Gojnea tomorrow, and probably still play a close match against a top-50 player the next week. I'm glad she will be playing the Asian WTA tournaments after AO because if every match is going to be nearly the same, being determined by pressure moments at the end of the sets and tiebreaks, she might as well just play the tournaments worth something. Although I'm not sure what needs to be done to sort out her matchplay/mental issues.

Renaud
Jan 5th, 2012, 11:19 AM
2nd win
3-6 6-1 7-5 :)

next
WANG Qiang (CHN) d. [5]WOERLE Kathrin (GER) 7-5 2-6 6-3

Iceland
Jan 5th, 2012, 11:33 AM
Very good win although Gojnea has been stagnating for a while now.
Good to see her winning a close match from a set down. Only this kind of results will help her solving those mental issues.
That was a smart decision for her to play a 50k.
Wang shouldn't cause her too much trouble, though facing a Chinese player in China will never be easy for an emotional girl!
Allez !

améliemomo
Jan 5th, 2012, 12:24 PM
like very much how she fought to grab that win, that's more like it:)

we dont know much about this chinese girl, she pushed hlavackova to a third set at US Open qualies

Allez Caro keep it up!

louiseyuan
Jan 5th, 2012, 04:52 PM
dear all,i just came back from Quanzhou.and i watched Caro's 2 rounds matches!such a talent girl!and i also took some pics of her.later i will put them here.and i also found that Caro's coach is Jeremy Chardy's coach before.:rolleyes:

Corswandt
Jan 5th, 2012, 11:37 PM
Although I'm not sure what needs to be done to sort out her matchplay/mental issues.

Nothing. Just have her realise that she's good enough to win despite of that.

Winning a tight match from a set down won't harm though.

louiseyuan
Jan 6th, 2012, 06:03 AM
Caro warming up before match

louiseyuan
Jan 6th, 2012, 06:12 AM
first round in Quanzhou:cool:

louiseyuan
Jan 6th, 2012, 06:19 AM
second round,really cold there!

Iceland
Jan 6th, 2012, 09:40 AM
Thanks a lot for all the pictures. :)

Caro into semies after a solid win 61 67 62 over Wang Qiang. I like the fact she managed to win the last set easily after she dropped a tight set. An exciting match is coming as she faces Kimiko. How Caro will deal with Kimiko's attempts to take the ball early and finish the points at the net is another question. ^^

améliemomo
Jan 6th, 2012, 10:12 AM
Thanks for pictures!

its cold in China and then she'll have to get used of the australian summer, could be kinda of brutal lol

well good caro reached semi final here but yes kimiko is special player to play. Curious to see how Caroline will adjust her game to kimiko one.

Allez Caro, do your best!

améliemomo
Jan 7th, 2012, 09:54 AM
lost 4 and 4:o

I still tend to think that Caro is lacking some game plan and tactic. Didnt find solution to KDK game.

now AO qualies, good luck there

Iceland
Jan 7th, 2012, 10:44 AM
This is far from being a bad loss! Kimiko is a great athlete and a wonderful thinker on court. That was a very positive week to start the year.
Anyway the sooner Caroline flies to Australia the better. Conditions will be much different there.

Corswandt
Jan 7th, 2012, 11:55 AM
http://www.tennisforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59121&d=1325830731

A night match at a Challenger? Awesome. Great photos, and great form on this BH - too far behind the baseline for my liking, but the closed stance is perfect. I wish I could take photos like these.

lost 4 and 4:o

Better than expected. The "losing to your granny" thing is the only negative. No point in wasting further time and effort here - she already got the competitive match play she needed before AO qualies, and which she might not have got if she had entered the packed Auckland or Hobart qualies.

améliemomo
Jan 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59121&d=1325830731

A night match at a Challenger? Awesome. Great photos, and great form on this BH - too far behind the baseline for my liking, but the closed stance is perfect. I wish I could take photos like these.



Better than expected. The "losing to your granny" thing is the only negative. No point in wasting further time and effort here - she already got the competitive match play she needed before AO qualies, and which she might not have got if she had entered the packed Auckland or Hobart qualies.


lol yes the smiley was because I expected a little bit better against granny kimiko but yeah nice week there:p

Iceland
Jan 11th, 2012, 10:03 AM
[3] Hlavackova v Kucova
Glushko v Fujiwara
Brengle v Burnett
Rampre v [15] Garcia

Another granny for Caroline in the first round.
Pretty open draw I guess. Hope she can adjust herself to the hot conditions and defend her 100 points.
Allez !

Corswandt
Jan 11th, 2012, 11:37 AM
[3] Hlavackova v Kucova
Glushko v Fujiwara
Brengle v Burnett
Rampre v [15] Garcia

Another granny for Caroline in the first round.
Pretty open draw I guess. Hope she can adjust herself to the hot conditions and defend her 100 points.
Allez !

Hlavackova clearly the strongest player in there, even if her focus nowadays is probably more on doubles. All other opponents are beatable, for all that's worth.

Renaud
Jan 12th, 2012, 07:01 AM
d.Rampre 1-6 6-3 6-4

next
Brengle d. Burnett 6-1 3-6 6-4

[3] Hlavackova d. Kucova 6-1 6-1
Glushko d. Fujiwara 6-1 3-6 6-3

Potapovushina
Jan 12th, 2012, 09:44 AM
Caro :cheer:

améliemomo
Jan 12th, 2012, 10:20 AM
I knew this will be difficult for caro. Thank God she recovered well from the first set loss

brengle next, go!

Corswandt
Jan 12th, 2012, 11:13 AM
Look at you Caroline, winning matches from a set down and everything. :hearts:

Iceland
Jan 12th, 2012, 01:22 PM
As expected, she was a little bit rusty at the beginning but from a set down, that's a pretty solid and convincing win.
Brengle does not have anything to hurt Caroline, this should be very winnable.
Allez!

Dorien.
Jan 12th, 2012, 06:57 PM
Well done :) I guess next match should be easier :)

Renaud
Jan 13th, 2012, 05:54 AM
d. Brengle 6-2 6-3

http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/1201/9c/6e20023abc07.jpg

Break Point Conversions 0 of 0 vs 4 of 6 :worship:

Renaud
Jan 13th, 2012, 06:34 AM
QR1?

http://s018.radikal.ru/i502/1201/6b/b654a1600450.jpg

Renaud
Jan 13th, 2012, 10:29 AM
next Hlavackova

QR1 d. K.Kucova 6-1 6-1
QR2 d. Glushko 7-5 6-2

very hard match

améliemomo
Jan 13th, 2012, 10:52 AM
yes better score for Caro,well done:)

hlavackova is next and she seems in great form indeed:o

go caro.

Maza1987
Jan 13th, 2012, 12:25 PM
comon. gl in fqr

18majors
Jan 13th, 2012, 05:40 PM
183 Km first serve, wow!

Dorien.
Jan 13th, 2012, 06:12 PM
Well done :cheer:

Potapovushina
Jan 13th, 2012, 06:36 PM
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/380956_356692657681167_172242589459509_1609942_153 807075_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/401448_356692697681163_172242589459509_1609943_157 9404571_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/409554_356692761014490_172242589459509_1609944_204 6436064_n.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/395106_356692821014484_172242589459509_1609945_149 6835524_n.jpg

améliemomo
Jan 13th, 2012, 07:35 PM
is she sponsored by Nike?

seems like the sharapova collection no? dont think it suits her well imo

thanks for the pics:)

améliemomo
Jan 14th, 2012, 10:34 AM
lost 4 and 4:sad:

well tough third round here, still a BIG room for improvement.

dont know whats her programm next...

Geoffrey91
Jan 14th, 2012, 12:23 PM
She needs 2 withdrawals to enter in MD as a LL. That's not over for her in Australia.

Corswandt
Jan 14th, 2012, 04:14 PM
Qualifying campaign went as expected.

She needs 2 withdrawals to enter in MD as a LL. That's not over for her in Australia.

At the GS, the rule is different: to pick the LLs, there's a tirage au sort between the four highest-ranked losers in the final qualifying round.

Corswandt
Feb 5th, 2012, 12:49 AM
Caroline in the Pattaya QD instead of playing Paris OGDF.

Beach vacations, or is she angry with France like Caravane?

améliemomo
Feb 5th, 2012, 07:16 PM
and she lost to an unknown chinese girl:o

willrock
Feb 7th, 2012, 10:54 AM
and she lost to an unknown chinese girl:o

Zhou might be unknown but she was in the top200 in 2010 and was in the top20 when in juniors, so she's not to be patronized. Caroline should not be ashamed of her loss, she has time to learn.

améliemomo
Feb 7th, 2012, 11:02 AM
well this chinese player reached MD but lost in R1 against slumpy kudriavtseva

cant say Caroline loss is good, in fact if you look at the stats she managed to break her opponent 5 times in 17 attemps! a ratio of 5/17 on bps, not good.

I think she's stagnating now and her actual coach doesnt suit her. She needs to bring lot of things in her game and Fontang is not the right coach to make her improve that.:(

améliemomo
Feb 10th, 2012, 05:47 PM
Like Kristina Mlad, Caroline entered Doha qualies

she's playing seed n°8 Aranxta Rus in first match

here her draw, Go!


(8)Arantxa Rus (NED) v Caroline Garcia (FRA)
Natalie Grandin (RSA) v (9)Anastasia Rodionova (AUS)

Renaud
Feb 11th, 2012, 11:58 AM
d. Rus 6-4 6-3 :wavey:

Dorien.
Feb 11th, 2012, 12:07 PM
Solid start :yeah:

améliemomo
Feb 11th, 2012, 01:09 PM
much better showing there:)

if you look at the stats her break points conversion is excellent (5/7 won) and 8/10 saved, that change much more her result!

allez in next round

Iceland
Feb 12th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Caro beat Grandin 63 64. A little blip at the end of the match on her serve, but managed to qualify eventually.
That was a pretty lucky draw and there are plenty of good spots in the main draw too.
On a funny note, despite being the lowest ranked in the draw, Ons Jabeur would be a tricky opponent for Caro as she failed to beat her every time they played in juniors.

améliemomo
Feb 12th, 2012, 02:42 PM
she needs that kind of "luck" to make her entry in the wta tour so happy for her

first appearance in a wta tournament as a qualifer, so well done for that, a step in her progression

waiting for the draw now:)

Maza1987
Feb 12th, 2012, 03:20 PM
comon
thats more like it
if she gets a good draw, she needs to get a win.

améliemomo
Feb 12th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Mona Barthel in first round:scared:

was hoping Paszek but got one of the most confident player of the tour.TOUGH.

améliemomo
Feb 13th, 2012, 05:18 PM
she lost in 2 tie breaks , had a lead of 3-1,4-2 and a set point in first set

she served for the set at 5-3 in 2nd set but Barthel managed to push it to another tie break


she's not far from that type of players but she lacks wins and experience to kill it. Good showing though against a player ranked +100 above her.

allez keep it up caro, surely at Malaysian Open.

Potapovushina
Feb 13th, 2012, 05:48 PM
Tough match for Caro. :hug: Very positive tho, Mona is an in-form player, and she managed to make her struggle. Keep it going, Caro! :yeah: :cheer:

Maza1987
Feb 13th, 2012, 05:54 PM
close scoreline is good,
but 10 dfs and 1 ace.

Dorien.
Feb 13th, 2012, 06:02 PM
A bit she couldn't take her chances but on the other hand she can be very proud about her performance :)

Corswandt
Feb 13th, 2012, 06:17 PM
Went as expected. She loses to the lowliest scrubs and to in-form top 50 players by similar scorelines, being competitive at both levels but failing to close the deal. The problem isn't lack of skill, but learning how to win.

vuhvuh
Feb 13th, 2012, 06:45 PM
I almost cried cause of that =/ ugh such wasted opportunity I soo wanted Vika match =( I mean she lead 41 in first set had deuce on her serve it was soo heartbreaking in the tb afterwards having sp. I thought she will fall totally apart in 2nd set but she fought! and it was such shame sooo tight! So many bps chances not used =(( maybe its still positive tho, because I didnt expect her to do this well against Barthel. I hope she plays much more WTA get to top 100! ALLEZ!!

vuhvuh
Feb 13th, 2012, 06:46 PM
What is her schedule for next month?
I see she will play Kuala Lumpur. I am jinxer haha =/ I hope shse doesnt get Marion ughhh

améliemomo
Feb 14th, 2012, 09:52 AM
I think you're right Corswandt, she must learn how to deal against the best, how to win. But that was her first main draw appearance in a wta event. She has to play every week on wta tournaments and win matches.

she's in the main draw at kuala lumpur, Marion playing there?strange...

Iceland
Feb 14th, 2012, 10:32 PM
Having just checked the point by point résumé of the match, that was a major choke of Caroline!
As you guys said, there was no doubt on her abilities to challenge a top 50 player, it is really a matter of whether she can hold her nerves to finish off a match.
It was her first WTA appearance of the year but she has already competed to WTA main draws before (Birmingham, Québec City). I keep her record for myself. :tape:

First set
GARCÍA _*@*@____*_*_ 6
BARTHE *____@*@*_*_T 7

The match started at 17:37 AST.

Barthel serving 0-0: 0/15. 0/30. 15/30. 30/30. 40/30. Deuce #1. Ad Barthel. Held.

García serving 0-1: 15/0. 30/0. 40/0. Held.

Barthel serving 1-1: 0/15. 0/30. 0/40. 15/40. 30/40. Deuce #1. Ad García. Deuce #2. Ad García. Broken.

García serving 2-1: 15/0. 30/0. 40/0. 40/15. 40/30. Deuce #1. Ad Barthel. Deuce #2. Ad García. Held.

Barthel serving 1-3: 0/15. 0/30. 0/40. 15/40. 30/40. Broken.

García serving 4-1: 15/0. 15/15. 30/15. 40/15. 40/30. Deuce #1. Ad Barthel. Broken.

Barthel serving 2-4: 15/30. 15/40. 30/40. Deuce #1. Ad Barthel. Deuce #2. Ad Barthel. Deuce #3. Ad Barthel. Held.

García serving 4-3 (new balls): 15/0. 30/0. 30/15. 30/30. 40/30. Deuce #1. Ad Barthel. Deuce #2. Ad Barthel. Deuce #3. Ad Barthel. Broken.

Barthel serving 4-4: 15/0. 30/0. 40/0. 40/15. Held.

García serving 4-5: 0/15. 15/15. 30/15. 30/30. 40/30. Held.

Barthel serving 5-5: 0/15. 15/15. Held.

García serving 5-6: 30/15. Held.

6-6 tiebreak (all scores García/Barthel): 0/0*. *0/1. *0/2. 1/2*. 2/2*. *3/3. 4/3*. 5/3*. *5/4. *5/5. 6/5*. 6/6*. *6/7. Barthel won the first set 7-6 at 18:37 AST (1h00m).

améliemomo
Feb 15th, 2012, 11:40 AM
that serve at 4-3 first set,she had a game point then let Barthel get back to the set.

it was her first main draw appearence after getting in qualies, Quebec city and Birmingham she lost in qualies

Doha is a huge tournament.

Iceland
Feb 15th, 2012, 12:37 PM
that serve at 4-3 first set,she had a game point then let Barthel get back to the set.

it was her first main draw appearence after getting in qualies, Quebec city and Birmingham she lost in qualies

Doha is a huge tournament.

First time she qualified, but Birmingham & Québec were her first main draw appearances in a WTA tournament. ;)

Quebec City Canada
TE 12 Sep 2011 to 18 Sep 2011 Entry: DA Hard (I)
32 L Marina ERAKOVIC (NZL) 4-6 6-4 4-6

Birmingham Great Britain
TE 06 Jun 2011 to 12 Jun 2011 Entry: DA Grass (O)
64 L Naomi BROADY (GBR) 2-6 7-6(5) 4-6

améliemomo
Feb 15th, 2012, 12:52 PM
First time she qualified, but Birmingham & Québec were her first main draw appearances in a WTA tournament. ;)

Quebec City Canada
TE 12 Sep 2011 to 18 Sep 2011 Entry: DA Hard (I)
32 L Marina ERAKOVIC (NZL) 4-6 6-4 4-6

Birmingham Great Britain
TE 06 Jun 2011 to 12 Jun 2011 Entry: DA Grass (O)
64 L Naomi BROADY (GBR) 2-6 7-6(5) 4-6

ah ok autant pour moi lol, elle a pas encore reussit à passer un tour, peut etre à kuala lumpur:)

kapociak
Feb 16th, 2012, 02:02 PM
Footages from great match against Sharapova at Roland Garros 2011:

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vuhvuh
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:18 PM
I will never forget this RG match. I was sooo for Caroline I was ofc crying when she lost it. It was soo good from her. Loved it. She got me with that totally from that time I am a fan.

vuhvuh
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:20 PM
btw she doesnt play dubai monterrey or memphis she could get some points! dont get that she doesnt =/

améliemomo
Feb 16th, 2012, 06:20 PM
cant understand it neither but well that's her choice staying in that part of the globe

I wished her to play bogota,she could have reached her best result there, all the seeds fall quickly and nomore top100 left:o

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:53 AM
These are some pics for Caroline i took in Day 3. I watched some of her Mona against Mona. She played well but missed a lot of chances. She has a lot of potential.

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012559.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:54 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012558.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:56 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012563.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:58 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012560.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:59 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012561.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:59 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012562.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:00 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012567.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:00 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012564.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:00 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012565.jpg

Setsuna.
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:01 AM
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/Janko_107/Nole%20the%20best/15022012566.jpg

améliemomo
Feb 17th, 2012, 10:28 AM
thank you for the pics, very beautiful one:)

Caroline is hitting with Virginie Razzano seems like;)have you been to her matches?

améliemomo
Feb 17th, 2012, 05:57 PM
Caroline got a QWC in Dubai!:D

she's playing Christina McHale in first round. Tough one but she knows her game, played her last year at 25K Pelham on clay ,beat her. Gonna be tough cause McHale improved since then.

Allez Caro!

améliemomo
Feb 18th, 2012, 03:01 PM
she finally played Iveta Benesova in Q1 she lost 2 and 3

well still think it is a liitle bit too "soon" to play such big tournaments. Not ready to beat top40-50 players yet. Her shedule would have been better if she played smaller tournaments in South America to gain wins and points

but well at least she saw what she needs to work on

next : kuala lumpur

Corswandt
Feb 18th, 2012, 07:04 PM
Barthel's "performance" against Toria renders meaningless Caroline's apparently encouraging score against her. The scoreline of the loss to Benesova probably gives us a more accurate gauge of her chances at the WTA MD level right now.

améliemomo
Feb 19th, 2012, 10:11 AM
yes you are right. But well Azarenka is just at her peak level right now, she beat radwanska 2 and 2 despite being injured so you cant have her as a real point of comparison

Caroline needs more matchs, more tournaments to improve cause as you said she still doesnt know how to win cause she doesnt believe in her enough. She has big potential but doesnt know how to use it yet.

I still think she has to be more complete player to make real impact on the tour.

améliemomo
Feb 25th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Caroline draw Jankovic in first round of Kuala Lumpur:rolleyes:

so pissed seing girls like radwanska,jankovic playing in such tournament asking for wild cards, pff like if they need it:(

Maza1987
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:01 PM
crap draw

améliemomo
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:26 AM
bad programme.she should have gone to Bogota/Monterrey/Acapulco. Look at Timea Babos reaching her first wta finale:rolleyes:

Corswandt
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:27 PM
yes you are right. But well Azarenka is just at her peak level right now, she beat radwanska 2 and 2 despite being injured so you cant have her as a real point of comparison

Caroline needs more matchs, more tournaments to improve cause as you said she still doesnt know how to win cause she doesnt believe in her enough. She has big potential but doesnt know how to use it yet.

I still think she has to be more complete player to make real impact on the tour.

No, I was wrong as I was too quick to read a particular scoreline as encouraging when most likely it wasn't.

Playing KL MD may not be such a bad idea. She could enter a few challengers I suppose, but she'd find a way to lose in them just the same and it would be much more damaging for her confidence. Or would it? When the problem isn't skill level but competitiveness/learning how to win, what do you do? And what kind of coaching you give to such a player? E.g. what should her coach do after seeing her lose a 3rd set TB to someone "who has never been a player and probably never will be"? Upbraid her for a full hour? Or just say "Forget about it" and let her go out with her hussy of a doubles partner who only has an eye for boys?

Corswandt
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Comment on latest disaster, same as posted at GM:

There's choking, and then there's Caroline Garcia.

Brain freezes completely at the slightest hint of pressure. "Brain freezes completely" is to be taken literally - the stuff she does at crunch time makes no sense whatsoever, it's just completely random, and she even stops moving her feet. It's pure panic.

Maza1987
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:38 PM
3mps!

nothing else left to write.

améliemomo
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:40 PM
very tough loss but come on dont be so harsh on her. She showed great level there, once again like you said the finish is not there. She doesnt know how to win a match but she's improving.

at 40-15 I was praying for a "miracle" like an ace or serve and volley but then I remembered this is her second biggest match on the wta level against a top10-15 player,her first was against sharapova last year

her backhand is still a big weakness, and her serve could be improved, such at her returns, should be playing more doubles imo to come to the net more often


she withdrew to the Nassau 100K so should not be playing in the USA imo. Perhaps getting ready for the clay court season...

Corswandt
Feb 29th, 2012, 11:15 AM
very tough loss but come on dont be so harsh on her.

I would never.

Caroline :hug:

All fanbases, even those of overachieving hackballers, always claim that their faves are immensely talented, but "choking" and "being a headcase" prevents them from reaching their full GOATential. Only in Caroline's case that's more than true.

I mean, the way she completely freezes under pressure, regardless of setting, opponent and/or level of competition, is quite unlike anything I've seen before, and we've all seen horrendous choking many, many times. It's so bad that it might prevent her from successfully transitioning to the pro level. I'm not saying that will happen, or even that it's likely to happen, but at the moment it's an actual risk that can't be disregarded. And of course Caroline herself is aware of this. At crunch time she's shit scared because she knows that she'll get tight, and that there's nothing that she can do about it.

should be playing more doubles imo to come to the net more often

Where she'd get passed left and right, like everyone else these days. Maybe you're on to something though - if instead of staying glued to the baseline to frame routine rally shots into the stands she'd foolishly rush the net to get passed, she'd be able to claim that there was nothing she could do, hadn't her opponent hit a winner after all?

améliemomo
Feb 29th, 2012, 05:28 PM
being passed when you're at the net is a risk that should be taken cause it's worthy of big courage imo and on match point you should make something "special"

and also BECAUSE it is very RARE to see a player coming to the net, with her natural power she should work on sequences at training to find a way to come to the net easyly and finish it off

if only she could have amélie as her coach, hopefully she'll be the new fed cup captain next year, caroline could improve so much with her

améliemomo
Mar 3rd, 2012, 10:25 AM
Great news guys!

Caroline will play Indian Wells quallies, that's why she withdrew of the american ITF tournaments, she got a wild card

she sent some pics of her there,she seems happy and focused :)

you can see them on her Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Caroline-Garcia/156547437741171

améliemomo
Mar 5th, 2012, 09:47 AM
Her draw in qualies


(10)Alexandra Panova (RUS) v (wc)Caroline Garcia (FRA)
Akgul Amanmuradova (UZB) v (13)Stephanie Foretz Gacon (FRA)

Go!

Corswandt
Mar 5th, 2012, 05:23 PM
So a WC. Friends in high places. :cool:

Geoffrey91
Mar 6th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Lost 64 64...

Caroline had 11 break points but oncly converted 1 of them. Actually Panova had only 3 break points but still managed to convert all. Bad stats for Caro again. She should have won this kind of match now !

Iceland
Mar 6th, 2012, 08:12 AM
Since that Sharapova collapse, her problems to take opportunities have been worsening with every tournament.

améliemomo
Mar 6th, 2012, 09:35 AM
it sucks to wake up and see such stats and her lack of consistency

Panova is a beatable player, she should have taken more opportunities to close out this match. Yes that sucks cause she doesnt know how to "kill" a match

Corswandt
Mar 6th, 2012, 11:03 AM
Lost 64 64...

Caroline had 11 break points but oncly converted 1 of them. Actually Panova had only 3 break points but still managed to convert all.

http://www.craigsicecream.com/images/WhiteFlagSurrender.gif

HowardH
Mar 11th, 2012, 03:04 PM
Thanks to the uploader, fantic. Some points from Caroline vs Panova.

dHDHROuhTJ8

améliemomo
Mar 11th, 2012, 08:41 PM
thanks Howard;)

still think Panova has nothing to hurt her. And her serve should be improved. Her toss is so high:o

Jason A.
Mar 11th, 2012, 09:27 PM
http://www.craigsicecream.com/images/WhiteFlagSurrender.gif

LOL! Listen, Corswandt, you know how good she can be, so you're not gonna surrender anytime soon. :p If people like Pierce and Mauresmo can fight through the nerves and make it up to the pointy end of the sport, so can Caroline. She's young; she can learn. Take heart, my friend! :)

HowardH
Mar 12th, 2012, 01:20 AM
thanks Howard;)

still think Panova has nothing to hurt her. And her serve should be improved. Her toss is so high:o

She has a tremendous but raw game. How can McHale already be a tour regular while Caroline can hardly win a match?

Her toss has some subtle control issues, despite it not being as obvious as Ivanovic's or Dementieva's issues. She doesn't lose the toss to the right but it is clear that it often doesn't really go where she aims it. As a result she struggles to get quite the right toss for the serve she wants- it's hard for her to get the first serve toss to go into the court, she ends up tossing it almost like a second serve a lot of the time. She has to catch the toss a fair amount- far less than other players who struggle with the toss, but definitely more than the average pro.

Having a bad toss makes one prone to double faulting under pressure, and in general helps to make one feel more nervous. She can serve pretty big so if she improved the toss her serve would become a pretty good weapon. Maybe she would even feel more confident serving on big points, which is a pretty big problem for her right now.

I would like to know whether the toss is a problem in practice or only in matches.

améliemomo
Mar 12th, 2012, 11:02 AM
Hi Howard, happy to read you in Caroline Topic, always very smart post;)

as for the comparison with Mc Hale, it's true one is more successful than the other but one is more talented too(caro). It takes more time to set a more complicated game and have results with it. Caroline is more an "offensive" player who likes to attack with powerful shots. McHale game is more mature, safer too. She can bring back a lot of balls. I think her serve should be improved cause it is not normal to not have total control of your serve because of your toss. She has to make it shorter and more simple. Look at Federer one, it is pure model to copy.
she must improve it to make big things.

HowardH
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:19 AM
Hi Howard, happy to read you in Caroline Topic, always very smart post;)

as for the comparison with Mc Hale, it's true one is more successful than the other but one is more talented too(caro). It takes more time to set a more complicated game and have results with it. Caroline is more an "offensive" player who likes to attack with powerful shots. McHale game is more mature, safer too. She can bring back a lot of balls. I think her serve should be improved cause it is not normal to not have total control of your serve because of your toss. She has to make it shorter and more simple. Look at Federer one, it is pure model to copy.
she must improve it to make big things.

Thanks Amira.

It's true, McHale's game is simpler. I never regarded McHale as being all that talented, but she's a hard worker who is making the most of her game. Caro seems to have ability but is struggling to put together her game- she can do most things, serve, return, fh, bh, movement around the court, net play. That does increase the complexity of the game.

However, if Caro does not "make it" as a top pro she will definitely be among the most talented players to never break through.

Caro's toss is a bit high but not the highest I have seen. It's not that accurate though. She has a good arsenal of spin serves, including a pretty nice kick serve, so she covers those bad tosses and makes it seem like she intended to hit a kick serve or whatever, but I'm still convinced she is not sure about her toss. Federer has a good toss and a nice serve, one of the best of his generation. However, I would regard his toss and serve as a slightly inferior version of Sampras' toss and serve. The two great players actually have very similar serves- similar stance, toss etc. They toss smoothly and directly to the contact point without having to toss too high. Both of these men are excellent models to copy when it comes to the serve. However Caro uses the "step together" footwork, not the platform stance that Sampras and Federer use. So maybe she would need to study a great server with the same kind of footwork- Krajicek, Ivanisevic perhaps? One thing all these really great servers usually have in common is that the toss is accurate and not much higher than necessary.

Possibly the most important thing is just to practise and find an individual, personal way to make the toss go smoothly into the right place. In my opinion all great servers have pretty consistent tosses. And many players who struggle with nerves have difficulty tossing. So solving the toss would be a good step forward for her, although it still might not completely solve her inability to play big points well. It's proved impossible for many players in the past though. But her case is unusual, as I said, most players with bad tosses lose the toss to the right, whereas Caro seems to lose it left or backwards, causing her to lose balance. Maybe this is easier to solve than the case where you lose the toss to the right?

What I'm really curious about is- did she have this kind of problem with big points before the match with Sharapova? Or did the Sharapova match, where she lost big point after big point in the second half of the match, create a mental hangover?

améliemomo
Mar 13th, 2012, 11:12 AM
I think she always had some difficuties with her toss and having big striker such as sharapova returning your serve doesnt help for sure. But dont think it is linked to mental issues. You said it, she's able to make great kicked serves even on big points. Her main goal is to be a complete player, so many things to work and focus on. Serve is a part of it but not all. She has to add some versatility in her game, work on slices,drop shot, coming to the net more often.

it can take some time indeed. Hopefully she wont be a waisted talent. The french tennis is already a total crap right now so hopefully she'll make some good things and become an excellent player at the top.

tedlesurfeur
Mar 17th, 2012, 09:38 AM
Since that Sharapova collapse, her problems to take opportunities have been worsening with every tournament.

Since their match in RG? I thought that Caroline would actually take a lot of positive things from that match. I remember telling myself "this girl's ready".
Why do you think it went the other way? I haven't followed her since then.

Iceland
Mar 18th, 2012, 01:29 AM
Since their match in RG? I thought that Caroline would actually take a lot of positive things from that match. I remember telling myself "this girl's ready".
Why do you think it went the other way? I haven't followed her since then.

Because I think she always was under the radar before. Back then people only talked about Kristina. Getting so close to beating a world champion and in the end failing to do it put an enormous pressure on her, not to mention all the Murray & Navratilova comments on her being the next number 1.
She always had troubles to finish off matches but she clearly has taken her nervousness to another extent since that.

Funny thing to see that she blew up occasions in most of the matches she has lost in recent months.

tedlesurfeur
Mar 18th, 2012, 07:27 AM
Because I think she always was under the radar before. Back then people only talked about Kristina. Getting so close to beating a world champion and in the end failing to do it put an enormous pressure on her, not to mention all the Murray & Navratilova comments on her being the next number 1.
She always had troubles to finish off matches but she clearly has taken her nervousness to another extent since that.

Funny thing to see that she blew up occasions in most of the matches she has lost in recent months.

Well, the only other result I know is her loss to Jankovic in Kuala Lumpur, so it makes what you're saying completely true.
She can still have a Mauresmo-like or Clijsters-like career.

Iceland
Mar 19th, 2012, 04:52 PM
Caroline is so predictable. The end of the match could be coming? Watch her get broken again after she just broke back. She wastes 3 BPs in a row? Watch her lose the entire match.
Bravo Caroline, keep on improving by playing every week. :worship:

Corswandt
Mar 19th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Bravo Caroline, keep on improving by playing every week. :worship:

I don't think withdrawing from events so that she has plenty of free time to brood about the pathetic losses she has been inflicting upon herself will in any way help.

Iceland
Mar 19th, 2012, 05:17 PM
I don't think withdrawing from events so that she has plenty of free time to brood about the pathetic losses she has been inflicting upon herself will in any way help.

I tend to think the contrary. She even chokes against slumping Arantxa Rus for God's sake! :lol: It doesn't look like she is anywhere close to putting an end to these mental problems. As a streaky player, her confidence might grow if she finally starts winning... but, she is also very negative. A fresh start may help to work the situation, because I feel like she isn't over her disappointments yet.

vuhvuh
Mar 19th, 2012, 09:15 PM
I give up on her this is sooo depressing =//

améliemomo
Mar 20th, 2012, 12:29 PM
I tend to think the contrary. She even chokes against slumping Arantxa Rus for God's sake! :lol: It doesn't look like she is anywhere close to putting an end to these mental problems. As a streaky player, her confidence might grow if she finally starts winning... but, she is also very negative. A fresh start may help to work the situation, because I feel like she isn't over her disappointments yet.

very disappointing loss once again. She 's very frustrating to follow and I already said it but she must keep playing ITF and especially win one!that must be her main goal, being able to be the best in a tournament. So win the finale.

she must believe more in herself or she'll do nothing on the tour. Wins are the best cure for her indeed.

Potapovushina
Mar 21st, 2012, 11:58 AM
Posting the nice pictures Aravanecaravan took :D

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7279/6998654987_7136e4abc3_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6045/6852532828_659a5a57d1_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6037/6852532354_9ed76a5669_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6117/6852533276_fd41124f4c_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/6852533760_aff66df593_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6226/6998659105_d850873e0e_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/6998657699_22783b42a0_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6044/6852536428_147be1196f_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7098/6852537128_b8b9cf64e8_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6032/6852537726_6344328fba_b.jpg

améliemomo
Mar 21st, 2012, 07:43 PM
thank you

Corswandt
Mar 26th, 2012, 03:47 PM
Played Osprey 50K qualies, result was as follows:

Q1R: Olga Puchkova (RUS) d. (4)Caroline Garcia (FRA) 62 75

TTR.

HowardH
Mar 26th, 2012, 04:11 PM
She's really struggling.

You've got to hope that if she hangs in there she'll turn it around sometime during this year.

Potapovushina
Mar 27th, 2012, 07:32 AM
:sad:

A couple more pics from Miami qualies:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7109/6873640786_ae48a900c9_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7122/7019746883_5826911c89_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7188/7019746801_47123c7b34_b.jpg

Kipling
Mar 29th, 2012, 06:18 PM
Video of Caroline from Miami qualies:

TB6y2entMqI

améliemomo
Mar 30th, 2012, 12:07 PM
thank you:kiss::wavey:

her loss at Osprey is just awful. And in straight sets. She'll play charleston qualies, please win a match

chingching
Apr 1st, 2012, 12:34 PM
HUcwY2mFlg8

This is highlights of her match against Anett Kontaveit at Wimbledon 2011 (3rd Round) courtesy of user reyeszjj

Corswandt
Apr 1st, 2012, 12:51 PM
Beat Maria Sanchez 3 and 3. Sanchez had a good run in the Bahamas a few weeks back. Didn't check who's next.

Potapovushina
Apr 1st, 2012, 02:21 PM
A win without any choking :eek: #redletterday :yeah:

Corswandt
Apr 1st, 2012, 11:17 PM
Lost to Vögele in three. Came back from a break down in the first, but didn't break Vögele once in the last two sets.

Make of this what you will.

améliemomo
Apr 2nd, 2012, 09:58 AM
still too many ups and downs in her game

and voegele is not a claycourt player so this loss is disappointing too. She 's on the 25K Pelham entry list for next next week but she's also on the copenhagen qualies

dont know what she'll do:confused:

Corswandt
Apr 2nd, 2012, 10:26 AM
still too many ups and downs in her game

and voegele is not a claycourt player so this loss is disappointing too. She 's on the 25K Pelham entry list for next next week but she's also on the copenhagen qualies

dont know what she'll do:confused:

She'll lose.

améliemomo
Apr 3rd, 2012, 02:07 PM
voegele beat gajdosova in 3

she seems in form.

Corswandt
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:11 PM
Hitting a new low (losing in straights to Latin American dreck that struggles to win even a match in Euro 25Ks), but at least nobody noticed. Or nobody cares any longer, and why should anyone?

Will she be here or will she head home and ponder her career options? Because this tennis playing business is going nowhere.

samresmo
Apr 22nd, 2012, 07:26 AM
This loss is worrying ... since her loss in RG against Maria, she has been struggling with her tennis ... she needs to get her confidence back...

Potapovushina
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:45 AM
:sobbing:

HowardH
Apr 22nd, 2012, 01:13 PM
Not sure who this Botto is. But it's clear that Caroline cannot beat anyone decent when she plays badly. She obviously beats herself too often.

améliemomo
Apr 23rd, 2012, 03:30 PM
she needs another coach.

Potapovushina
Apr 28th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Caro's trying Estoril's qualies. Q1 against Heather Watson tomorrow. :scared: Allez!!!

Corswandt
Apr 28th, 2012, 12:49 AM
I'll be there. Second match from 10 AM, so there's a chance that it will at least begin before the rain.

améliemomo
Apr 28th, 2012, 01:03 PM
cool for you Corswandt, expect a report from you;)

Potapovushina
Apr 28th, 2012, 02:36 PM
She lost 1-6 1-6. :sobbing: Not even close. :help: :o

Maza1987
Apr 28th, 2012, 02:47 PM
despite being a big heather watson fan, clearly i like caro as well.
caro really needs to change something. she needs something to click.

Iceland
Apr 28th, 2012, 02:48 PM
Her worst loss this season. It must have been horrible to watch, poor Corswandt.

Kiki & Caro really manage very poorly their season. They have consistently failed to qualify and yet they keep on entering WTA tournaments. I do think playing shitty 25k in South America would be better than this mess.

Potapovushina
Apr 28th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Unfortunately, they both are SO French. :tears: :sobbing:

améliemomo
Apr 28th, 2012, 05:43 PM
Her worst loss this season. It must have been horrible to watch, poor Corswandt.

Kiki & Caro really manage very poorly their season. They have consistently failed to qualify and yet they keep on entering WTA tournaments. I do think playing shitty 25k in South America would be better than this mess.

think the same but they doesnt think that apparently:rolleyes:


awful awful loss.

Corswandt
Apr 29th, 2012, 12:32 AM
Caroline was playing standard issue #100-200 range tennis, aggressive variant (picture say Corinna Dentoni, Mandy Minella, Vitalia Diatchenko or Lesia Tsurenko), only very badly. And that was even before the meltdowns began - near the end of both sets, and were they ugly.

Even her BH swing, which I remembered as a bit stiff from previous matches, is actually smooth as silk, but her tactics are just a mess. She has the potential to be a good shotmaker, but is made to play like a claycourt grinder, when her footwork and consistency just aren't up to it. She either takes the ball early - which she can do given how good her technique is - or plays higher %. Going for crazy shots from 2 meters behind the baseline just won't cut it. Kept overhitting throughout. Plus that retarded court positioning means she doesn't take advantage of the soft balls she earns with her serve. Leaving half of the court wide open to hit FHs that don't even allow her to take over the point, let alone finish it - not smart. Watson just counterattacked into the open space. Watson has a fairly good serve for her size, but that's no excuse for the dismal returning I saw. Safarova level - slow to react, and then didn't move her feet at all.

When her coach went to talk to Caroline after the first set disaster, he gave her useful advice by the looks of it - hitting her BH with more margin and topspin, rallying a bit more instead of going for shots that weren't there. Caroline did just that, and it worked for a half dozen points or so, but then it was all-out self-destruction again. An untimely DF or a bad return game, and there goes her confidence.

Time to play down to work on match playing skills, return game and learn how to fucking rally - improvements might take months. And when I say "improvements", I mean achieving an acceptable level of shotmaker-lite #100-200 tennis like that of the players I mentioned above. Because playing at anything close to top 100 level seems like a mirage right now.

Potapovushina
Apr 29th, 2012, 10:33 AM
:tears:

améliemomo
Apr 29th, 2012, 05:54 PM
wow that calms everybody:tape:

Corswandt
May 6th, 2012, 07:44 PM
At Cagnes.

Will lose to plays Khromacheva 1R.

http://www.opendecagnes.com/tableau-simple/

améliemomo
May 7th, 2012, 06:43 PM
surprisingly she won! 2 and 2:eek:

well still dont know what to expect from her but what I know is that she must build on that win. her next opponent will be the winner between Stephanie Foretz Gacon and Mandy Minella.

Edit: it will be Stephanie Foretz Gacon.

Go Caro.

Corswandt
May 7th, 2012, 11:19 PM
Over a toddler, but I'll take it.

améliemomo
May 9th, 2012, 06:12 PM
(wc) Caroline Garcia def (8) Stephanie Foretz Gacon 6-2 6-3

good win over a top100:)

but now comes Melinda Czink who was impressive at Estoril, she also beat Babos in first round:unsure:

Allez Caro.

Corswandt
May 9th, 2012, 06:58 PM
but now comes Melinda Czink who was impressive at Estoril, she also beat Babos in first round:unsure:

On the other hand, that's a player who may well beat Caroline in the race to bury herself in errors.

Maza1987
May 9th, 2012, 09:39 PM
comon
let's get this season back on track,
although czink on clay will be tough

Corswandt
May 11th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Currently playing a third set vs Czink. A break up, but still plenty of time to choke.

Piccies of Caroline at Cagnes can be found here:

http://www.opendecagnes.com/multimedia/lundi-7-mai/

http://www.opendecagnes.com/multimedia/mercredi-9-mai/

Sample:

http://www.opendecagnes.com/library/content/zoom/471.jpg

Corswandt
May 11th, 2012, 06:05 PM
still plenty of time to choke.

:sad:

Corswandt
May 11th, 2012, 06:07 PM
:woohoo:

Corswandt
May 11th, 2012, 06:18 PM
Down 1-5* in the second set TB. 17/22 BPs saved. CLUTCH.

Match length 3:05. FIGHTER.

Iceland
May 11th, 2012, 06:35 PM
That's the first tiebreak she has won in ages!
Well done Caro, big points comin'!!!

améliemomo
May 11th, 2012, 07:03 PM
Caroline in semi finale of a 100K for the first time:D:D

she beat Czink 5-7 7-6 6-4!

next will be the winner of Putintseva/Dubois


Vamos Caro!

vuhvuh
May 11th, 2012, 08:08 PM
Does somebody know why she withdrew from Saint Gaudens next week? And next week will be announced the RG WC right? Do u want her to get one or it is better for her to play Q?

HowardH
May 12th, 2012, 04:01 AM
This is some progress, at least. Baby steps.

Edit: after reading other posts about it I realise that she actually showed a lot of fight in this match. Yes, that's progress indeed. Now just has to start doing that more often. When she regularly has more good weeks than bad weeks we're talking turkey- but this is a very nice start.

améliemomo
May 12th, 2012, 09:15 AM
Does somebody know why she withdrew from Saint Gaudens next week? And next week will be announced the RG WC right? Do u want her to get one or it is better for her to play Q?

yes just saw that too and its quite surprising but well I think she will have a wc at RG after a good showing at Cagnes and she deserves it. Perhaps she'll play strasbourg for her next tournament,dont know

vuhvuh
May 12th, 2012, 09:59 AM
So she is in Strasbourg Q. So imo she withdrew because she maybe feels form and then if she did well in Saint-Gaudens she would not be able to play Strasbourg Q or she was scared she would be tired? :D other reasons? no idea

Potapovushina
May 12th, 2012, 12:48 PM
Allez :hearts: :cheer:

vuhvuh
May 12th, 2012, 06:03 PM
Sad she lost but I expected bw I dont like Putintseva at all