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brickhousesupporter
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:09 PM
You know the articles I am referring to. The ones that so miss the mark that in hindsight, the authors look silly for writing them. Feel free to post your favorites.

My all time favorite...The year is 2007 and Tracy Austin gives us her take on the 2007 Australian Open Championship. The article was so far off the mark, that the article was removed from the website immediately after Serena won.


Serena's improbable run to end

Unseeded American will fall to top-seeded Sharapova in Aussie final


COMMENTARY
By Tracy Austin
NBCSports.com contributor
updated 1:55 p.m. CT, Thurs., Jan. 25, 2007


MELBOURNE, Australia - Serena Williams has given tennis fans an Australian Open to remember.
Entering the first major of 2007 ranked as world No. 81 due to having played in only four events in 2006, the 25-year-old American has defied the odds to reach her 10th Grand Slam final.
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She has taken out five seeded players, and she says she hasn't even played well yet Down Under.
There's no question Serena has exceeded expectations, but she is going to have her work cut out for her when she takes on top-seeded Maria Sharapova in the women's singles final.
Sharapova is going to be a huge step up in class for Williams -- too big a step in my opinion as I see the Russian taking the title.
Sharapova in storming form
There’s no doubt that Sharapova has elevated her game in the last few months. She is also a more confident player than she was before she won her second major at last year's U.S. Open.
The 19-year-old was already a great player on the attack, but her defense has gotten better and she has been serving well on big points.

Overall there are more facets to her game than there used to be, and you can see all the little pieces falling into place as Sharapova improves.
Williams’ semifinal opponent Nicole Vaidisova is a stablemate of Sharapova’s at Nick Bollettieri’s tennis academy in Florida, and she has a similar game to Sharapova's but with one big difference -- Sharapova is much better at that game than is Vaidisova.
Sharapova is a tough cookie and she won’t be intimidated the way Vaidisova was against Williams. She was not intimidated by Williams when she was 17 and playing in the Wimbledon final, and she certainly is not going to be intimidated now as a seasoned player who has won two majors.
Sharapova hits the ball so early, so deep and so well on a consistent basis. I think she is going to rush Williams and therefore test her conditioning a lot more than it has been tested so far.
At her peak, Williams moved so well it was impossible to rush her, but Sharapova is going to put her on her back foot over and over again.
Let's break down their games.

SERVE
It’s tough to choose between them. Williams has a big serve and she has used it well this tournament, but Sharapova’s serve is much improved. I don't see a decided edge for either of them on the serve.
EDGE: EVEN



RETURN OF SERVE
Williams used to have one of the best returns in the game, but it is not quite "on" yet.
Sharapova is returning a lot better than she used to, and she is being smarter about choosing when to go for her returns too.
EDGE: SHARAPOVA


VOLLEYS
Sharapova really does not volley unless she is fairly sure of hitting a winner, so she makes a higher percentage of a the volleys she hits. Williams, though, is a more natural volleyer.
EDGE: WILLIAMS


FOREHAND
Both Williams and Sharapova have incredibly powerful forehands, but both are also prone to mistakes on that wing.
I think Williams’ lack of matches puts her at a slight disadvantage here so, on current form, she loses out to Sharapova.
EDGE: SHARAPOVA


BACKHAND
Right here, right now, Sharapova’s backhand is a safer shot than Williams’ is, so I back the Russian here too.
So many shots are about confidence, and in three months’ time, when Williams has a few more matches under her belt, then she is going to be stronger in so many areas, including this one.
EDGE: SHARAPOVA


FITNESS AND ATHLETICISM
I would split these categories into two. I think Williams is the more agile mover and is the better athlete naturally, but there is no question that Sharapova is in much better shape.
EDGE ATHLETICISM: WILLIAMS
EDGE FITNESS: SHARAPOVA


STRATEGY
This is not going to be a strategic contest, it is going to be a battle of serves and power hitting. It is going to be about who executes their shots better on the day.
EDGE: EVEN


MENTAL TOUGHNESS
These are two of the strongest players mentally in the women’s game. Neither of them ever gives up and they have that champion’s ability to compete well even if they aren’t necessarily playing well.
EDGE: EVEN
MY PICK
SHARAPOVA IN STRAIGHT SETS

mdterp01
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:20 PM
I hope Serena has that shyt framed somewhere!!!!

bandabou
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:20 PM
:rolls: Maria as tough as Serena mentally? Serve?! Helloooo!! :lol:

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:23 PM
that and Pat Cash :lol: both before AND after the AO

Vartan
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:24 PM
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VishaalMaria
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:28 PM
OMG! The serve and ROS in that AO 07 final match is what demoralised Maria Sharapova in that match.

And mental toughness even? BS!

jefrilibra
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:36 PM
Those were the days!:rolls:

Looking back ... this chit is really funny, almost like a parody.

brickhousesupporter
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:41 PM
http://hosting01.hotchyx.com/adult-image-hosting-04/9287masha-Hate.gif

No one is hating on Maria....feel free to post in this thread any article in which Maria was counted out and defied her critics.

Craigy
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:49 PM
Williams is a lost cause.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article1292868.ece

:lol: Silly Pat Cash.

Bijoux0021
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:55 PM
My all time favorite...The year is 2007 and Tracy Austin gives us her take on the 2007 Australian Open Championship. The article was so far off the mark, that the article was removed from the website immediately after Serena won.

:lol:

Disgraceful and delusional Tracy Austin. :sad: :o

brickhousesupporter
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:02 PM
Why is it, that only Williams fans are providing articles? I am sure there must be articles written about Henin, Clijsters, Safina and Sharapova, in which they were counted out and won in spectacular fashion. :confused:

Serenita
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:03 PM
What about this one
:devil:

From The Times
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January 14, 2007
Williams is lost cause

For all her talk, Serena Williams will never return to the top again



Pat Cash



div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited { color:#06c; } IF ANYBODY is qualified to make deluded statements about tennis, it is a former world No 1 and winner of seven Grand Slam titles. But when Serena Williams arrives in Australia on her first foreign playing trip in a year and announces that it is only a matter of time before she is again dominating the sport, it’s time to tell her to get real.

Tennis is unforgiving. You can’t let it slide down the list of priorities, only to realise suddenly that playing the sport was what you wanted to do all along. Many have tried to turn back the clock, but nearly all have failed. That list includes Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe, Martina Hingis and, for different reasons, Monica Seles.

Admittedly this quartet experienced some success. The exploits of Hingis reaffirm the belief that a good champion never completely loses the gift, but she has gone only a fraction of the way and the No 1 ranking she held for a couple of years is far out of reach. Why? Tennis moved on in her absence.

The only players I can recall who let things slip, only to climb back to the top, were Andre Agassi and Jennifer Capriati. Williams should ask herself if she has the same dedication. And is she prepared to make the sacrifices? The answer is obvious.

As the saying so often used by McEnroe goes: “The older I get, the better player I used to be.” I take issue with Mac over many things, but not the merits of those words.

Williams may be in better physical shape this year than when she pitched up for the 2006 Australian Open, but her three matches in Hobart last week were her first in tournament play since the US Open almost four months ago. Add to that the fact that last year she opted not to play outside the US after losing in the third round in Melbourne and you cannot fail to agree that her application is lacking.

The Williams sisters changed the face of women’s tennis, taking power play to previously unimaginable levels. They blazed everybody else out of their path. But Serena clearly has a limited attention span. At her peak she had no patience in the way she played her tennis. Now she does not appear to have the fortitude to stick at what she is trying to do.

I never experienced a fraction of the success and dominance that she enjoyed, but there came a time in my career when everything associated with being a top player seemed suffocating. I wanted to do different things and the thought of heading to the practice court seemed like purgatory. Eventually I realised how much tennis meant to me and tried to make up for lost time, but although the spirit was willing, the body was not. And it made for years of frustration.

In the same way I maintained that my main interest was aspiring to be a rock musician for a couple of years, Williams said she was an actress. She also got involved in the fashion world and seemed to love every second of it. Good on her. She is entitled to do whatever she wants, and if it made her happy, what more could she ask?

Everybody knows she and Venus had no real choice when their father, Richard, decided that much of their childhood would be spent hitting tennis balls. Who can be surprised that this promotes a desire to do something different? But to make



such a crass statement on her arrival in Australia was an insult to Amelie Mauresmo and Maria Sharapova, who have risen to the top of the game in her absence.

They are the new winning breed. They are tall and hit the ball just as hard as the Williams sisters, if not harder. Coming through are Jelena Jankovic, Nicole Vaidisova and Ana Ivanovic, who possess similar firepower and just need a little more experience.

There is so much more depth to the women’s game nowadays. No longer do we disregard the first week of a Grand Slam as a warm-up for the real confrontations that are to come.

I still don’t expect too many upsets before the quarter-finals, but neither do I expect Serena Williams, currently the world’s 81st-ranked player, with eight Americans above her in the rankings, to be in the mix at the sharp end of the tournament.

The Witch-king
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:10 PM
Oh my god that tracy austin one :D LOLest

the pat cash one is always good for a laugh. Didn't he write one recently?

tennisphilia
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:21 PM
Williams is a lost cause.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article1292868.ece

:lol: Silly Pat Cash.

SILLY is an exagerration.
STUPID is more apt.

Ferg
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:49 PM
That one where they got the story about the WTA players going to beauty clinics from here.

jefrilibra
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:53 PM
They are the new winning breed. They are tall and hit the ball just as hard as the Williams sisters, if not harder. Coming through are Jelena Jankovic, Nicole Vaidisova and Ana Ivanovic, who possess similar firepower and just need a little more experience.

Seriously Pat Cash???

:haha:

Donny
Feb 1st, 2010, 07:06 PM
Williams is a lost cause.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article1292868.ece

:lol: Silly Pat Cash.

"But to make such a crass statement on her arrival in Australia was an insult to Amelie Mauresmo and Maria Sharapova, who have risen to the top of the game in her absence.

They are the new winning breed. They are tall and hit the ball just as hard as the Williams sisters, if not harder. Coming through are Jelena Jankovic, Nicole Vaidisova and Ana Ivanovic, who possess similar firepower and just need a little more experience."

Comments on this:

Mauresmo and jankovic hit with as much power as Serena? In what universe? It's also interesting to note that Mauresmo basically did nothing of any significance after he wrote this article, and that Serena beat three of the players mentioned in the very next tournament.

The Witch-king
Feb 1st, 2010, 08:04 PM
Serena triumph (AO09) shows the need for Sharapova return

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/serena-triumph-shows-the-need-for-sharapova-return-1523020.html
yeah sharapova really showed us!

Rocketta
Feb 1st, 2010, 08:33 PM
Why is it, that only Williams fans are providing articles? I am sure there must be articles written about Henin, Clijsters, Safina and Sharapova, in which they were counted out and won in spectacular fashion. :confused:

:lol:

u know why but great thread the Tracy Austin article... hilarious! :haha:

frenchie
Feb 1st, 2010, 08:39 PM
The hype around Sharapova is surreal!

spartanfan
Feb 1st, 2010, 09:33 PM
Those articles were priceless.

RenaSlam.
Feb 1st, 2010, 09:51 PM
Step to this.

miffedmax
Feb 1st, 2010, 11:50 PM
I don't remember any articles, but I remember a lot of speculation a couple years ago that Lena D. was done after she broke her ribs and dropped out of the Top 10 back in '07. Okay, no slams, but an Olympic Gold, and 8 other titles later...

In The Zone
Feb 1st, 2010, 11:51 PM
The two that come to my mind at Pat Cash and Tracy Austin re: Serena 2007 Melbourne.

brickhousesupporter
Feb 1st, 2010, 11:59 PM
I don't remember any articles, but I remember a lot of speculation a couple years ago that Lena D. was done after she broke her ribs and dropped out of the Top 10 back in '07. Okay, no slams, but an Olympic Gold, and 8 other titles later...

Max not to belittle Lena, but Serena was a 7 or 8 time grand slam champion. How could they write her off and think that she would never become a champion again. The Belgians are back and people are expecting them to save the tennis world. I can't think of a single article that states that Henin or Clijsters can't get back to their former glory.

mdterp01
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:12 AM
Max not to belittle Lena, but Serena was a 7 or 8 time grand slam champion. How could they write her off and think that she would never become a champion again. The Belgians are back and people are expecting them to save the tennis world. I can't think of a single article that states that Henin or Clijsters can't get back to their former glory.

Exactly!!!! Meanwhile they were just so ready to bury Serena and put up her tombstone. LIVING WELL is the BEST REVENGE and I think Serena is living VERY WELL!!! Additional majors, back to #1 which she should be holding onto for awhile and get to at least 100 weeks. Serena has the last laugh again!!

miffedmax
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:25 AM
Max not to belittle Lena, but Serena was a 7 or 8 time grand slam champion. How could they write her off and think that she would never become a champion again. The Belgians are back and people are expecting them to save the tennis world. I can't think of a single article that states that Henin or Clijsters can't get back to their former glory.

Oh, I'm not trying to compare Lena's accomplishments to Rena's. But the parallel is that about 1/2 this board and some of the press (I was to lazy to look for articles, but I remember reading them) said she'd never return to HER previous level. Which she did.

So since somebody said we could mention other players besides the Serena, I did.

Black Mamba.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:47 AM
What about this one
:devil:

From The Times
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January 14, 2007
Williams is lost cause

For all her talk, Serena Williams will never return to the top again



Pat Cash



div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited { color:#06c; } IF ANYBODY is qualified to make deluded statements about tennis, it is a former world No 1 and winner of seven Grand Slam titles. But when Serena Williams arrives in Australia on her first foreign playing trip in a year and announces that it is only a matter of time before she is again dominating the sport, it’s time to tell her to get real.

Tennis is unforgiving. You can’t let it slide down the list of priorities, only to realise suddenly that playing the sport was what you wanted to do all along. Many have tried to turn back the clock, but nearly all have failed. That list includes Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe, Martina Hingis and, for different reasons, Monica Seles.

Admittedly this quartet experienced some success. The exploits of Hingis reaffirm the belief that a good champion never completely loses the gift, but she has gone only a fraction of the way and the No 1 ranking she held for a couple of years is far out of reach. Why? Tennis moved on in her absence.

The only players I can recall who let things slip, only to climb back to the top, were Andre Agassi and Jennifer Capriati. Williams should ask herself if she has the same dedication. And is she prepared to make the sacrifices? The answer is obvious.

As the saying so often used by McEnroe goes: “The older I get, the better player I used to be.” I take issue with Mac over many things, but not the merits of those words.

Williams may be in better physical shape this year than when she pitched up for the 2006 Australian Open, but her three matches in Hobart last week were her first in tournament play since the US Open almost four months ago. Add to that the fact that last year she opted not to play outside the US after losing in the third round in Melbourne and you cannot fail to agree that her application is lacking.

The Williams sisters changed the face of women’s tennis, taking power play to previously unimaginable levels. They blazed everybody else out of their path. But Serena clearly has a limited attention span. At her peak she had no patience in the way she played her tennis. Now she does not appear to have the fortitude to stick at what she is trying to do.

I never experienced a fraction of the success and dominance that she enjoyed, but there came a time in my career when everything associated with being a top player seemed suffocating. I wanted to do different things and the thought of heading to the practice court seemed like purgatory. Eventually I realised how much tennis meant to me and tried to make up for lost time, but although the spirit was willing, the body was not. And it made for years of frustration.

In the same way I maintained that my main interest was aspiring to be a rock musician for a couple of years, Williams said she was an actress. She also got involved in the fashion world and seemed to love every second of it. Good on her. She is entitled to do whatever she wants, and if it made her happy, what more could she ask?

Everybody knows she and Venus had no real choice when their father, Richard, decided that much of their childhood would be spent hitting tennis balls. Who can be surprised that this promotes a desire to do something different? But to make



such a crass statement on her arrival in Australia was an insult to Amelie Mauresmo and Maria Sharapova, who have risen to the top of the game in her absence.

They are the new winning breed. They are tall and hit the ball just as hard as the Williams sisters, if not harder. Coming through are Jelena Jankovic, Nicole Vaidisova and Ana Ivanovic, who possess similar firepower and just need a little more experience.

There is so much more depth to the women’s game nowadays. No longer do we disregard the first week of a Grand Slam as a warm-up for the real confrontations that are to come.

I still don’t expect too many upsets before the quarter-finals, but neither do I expect Serena Williams, currently the world’s 81st-ranked player, with eight Americans above her in the rankings, to be in the mix at the sharp end of the tournament.


The only thing Vaidisova won is Radek Štěpánek's heart.
http://i50.tinypic.com/ngzpu1.gif

HippityHop
Feb 2nd, 2010, 03:12 AM
The thing is that even if writers believe (are fervently praying) that Serena will lose at the big tournaments, most of them are not total fools and they have learned to cover their asses with the "but you can never count Serena (or Venus) out" line.

I imagine that there are some writers who haven't learned that Serena, in particular, and Venus, to a lesser extent other than at Wimby, are threats to win any major that that they enter.

Those writers are so out of touch with reality that one marvels that someone pays them for their opinions.

Seyz
Feb 2nd, 2010, 03:43 AM
But the truth is that after the onslaught of crazy articles counting Serena out during that time, after the embarrassment of those articles, now almost all commentators are really safe when talking about Serena. They know to never count her out. So they did learn from their mistakes.
LOL.. they've moved on to Venus. None of them think she has what it takes now. Hopefully, she takes a page out of Serena's book and proves everyone wrong.

DOUBLEFIST
Feb 2nd, 2010, 10:33 AM
I hope Serena has that shyt framed somewhere!!!!
:lol: So true! :haha: Was Traci right about ANYTHING in that article?

But the truth is that after the onslaught of crazy articles counting Serena out during that time, after the embarrassment of those articles, now almost all commentators are really safe when talking about Serena. They know to never count her out. So they did learn from their mistakes.
Yep. I was amazed at how careful PMac and Pam were even in the Azerenka match to not throw in the towel on Serena. :lol: But credit them, they didn't ever want to get "Pat Cashed."

bandabou
Feb 2nd, 2010, 11:36 AM
:lol: When will LDV listen? Move Serena side to side..nice try by Juju. :lol:

Betten
Feb 2nd, 2010, 12:44 PM
Max not to belittle Lena, but Serena was a 7 or 8 time grand slam champion. How could they write her off and think that she would never become a champion again. The Belgians are back and people are expecting them to save the tennis world. I can't think of a single article that states that Henin or Clijsters can't get back to their former glory.

I think this is partly due to Serena having shown reporters how risky it is to make assumptions like that; they didn't want to make the same mistake twice. Also, Serena has always been a bit lofty and never really plays her best at warm-up tournaments, while Kim and Justine usually show more effort in WTA events, so that can give a different impression as well. Before Kim won the US Open, she'd played some HC events with good results, and Henin had reached the final in Brisbane. Serena had played almost nothing for a whole year when she came into the AO that year.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 12:59 PM
:lol: When will LDV listen? Move Serena side to side..nice try by Juju. :lol:

i don't get why everyone thinks it's best to move serena side to side :shrug: she's at her best when she's on the move :shrug: she may not be as fast as she was but her anticipation and ability to turn defense to offense are still hard to match in the game...

DOUBLEFIST
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:15 PM
i don't get why everyone thinks it's best to move serena side to side :shrug: she's at her best when she's on the move :shrug: she may not be as fast as she was but her anticipation and ability to turn defense to offense are still hard to match in the game...
I think a lot of people look at her size - a lot of ignorant people, that is - and think she just to big to run that well, but they simply haven't been watching her career that closely or have looked at athletes in other sports of similar build. Serena is BUILT for speed and mobility. Some people have a more "traditional" view of what they think that SHOULD look like.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:23 PM
if you all you needed to be was slim to move then maria, dani and lindsay should be the best movers on tour, but they aren't :shrug: it's why sprinters are usually more built than long distance runners, because you need that burst from your muscles to be able to go fast and hard for a short time, while long distance runners need steady endurance :shrug: jamaican, american and bahamian women sprinters are all built like serena, and guess who wins the majority of the sprints?? not the slim, "eurocentric beauty" types...the "serena type"

The Witch-king
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:47 PM
I love the jamaican, american and bahamian sprinters :devil:

bandabou
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:53 PM
i don't get why everyone thinks it's best to move serena side to side :shrug: she's at her best when she's on the move :shrug: she may not be as fast as she was but her anticipation and ability to turn defense to offense are still hard to match in the game...

:lol: exactly.. Kim got a fluke win by pinning Serena in the backhand corner and all of sudden that's the way. Underestimating Serena's ability to adapt.

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:04 PM
Bandabou come on, Kim's win was not a fluke. She'd done it before for a start.


Of course running Serena side to side is not the way to go. Serena is very adaptable so I wouldn't say there is a "set way" to play her. But if there was, it has not been executed any better than USO 2000 QF's. :worship:


Why is it, that only Williams fans are providing articles? I am sure there must be articles written about Henin, Clijsters, Safina and Sharapova, in which they were counted out and won in spectacular fashion. :confused:

Perhaps people don't really care that much? :shrug: It seems some people on here care more about their fave winning in order to prove insignificant journalists (and posters) and Pat Cash wrong over the joy of the win itself.

People can't just say everyone is going to win, they need to pick. With 4 tournaments played in the previous year and the whole off season spent in a court case with her father (or something like that?), out of shape, how could you possibly say Serena was going to win? It's good that she did but there's no wrong in voicing an opinion. I'd rather people do that then just say they're going to win every time.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:09 PM
you don't have to pick her to win....but to say: she'll never win anything again, she's washed up, she's done, the game has passed her by...to the point of stating that mauresmo, vaidisova, and jankovic possess similar firepower and THAT'S why she won't win ever again, is more than just picking a winner...that's writing off someone

Feyd
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:18 PM
Why is it, that only Williams fans are providing articles? I am sure there must be articles written about Henin, Clijsters, Safina and Sharapova, in which they were counted out and won in spectacular fashion. :confused:

Maybe because others do not suffer from the superiority complex of the need of finding ancient articles and shoving them down people's throats?

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:23 PM
or maybe those articles don't exist :shrug:

even with her current troubles maria was still listed as a favourite :tape:

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:24 PM
you don't have to pick her to win....but to say: she'll never win anything again, she's washed up, she's done, the game has passed her by...to the point of stating that mauresmo, vaidisova, and jankovic possess similar firepower and THAT'S why she won't win ever again, is more than just picking a winner...that's writing off someone

Alright, but again what's really so bad about writing someone off, especially if the person won't read it.

Anyway, plenty of people on here seem to get most of their joy of being a fan of a player because people write their fave off. And some players even admit if they do read it, it inspires them more than anything else.

Serena's 07 AO win would probably not be talked about as much even now if not one single person had written her off before, if she went in as the favourite.

brickhousesupporter
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:26 PM
It gets better. I like that he had the guts to admit he was wrong.....Tracy never did. I also liked that he threw Tracy under the bus.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article1267495.ece


Strewth! I called it wrong

Pat Cash is happy to eat humble pie after Serena Williams produces an awesome display of power tennis to win in Melbourne

Pat Cash

"AUSTRALIANS are not very good at admitting their mistakes. Maybe that’s because it doesn’t happen very often when sport is concerned, but I hold my hands up in apology, I got it wrong all ends up about Serena Williams. In my defence, I was not alone. Tracy Austin, who knows more about women’s tennis than me, laughed at the suggestion that the former world No 1 had a legitimate shot at climbing back to the top. Yet here are the two of us, and many more besides, eating humble pie after Serena collected a third Australian Open title to take her Grand Slam collection to eight.

What does this win mean, except for the fact I once again appreciate it’s a good job I don’t gamble because I would have put a lot of money on Serena not even being around for the second week of the tournament, let alone winning the whole thing? Foremost, it proves she is a a dynamic athlete and quite simply the strongest female player the game has ever known. It defies belief that she can turn up for a Grand Slam after playing just four tournaments in the past 12 months and win the thing. However, it reinforces my long-held view that there is a huge disparity between the relative strengths of the men’s and women’s games. For a woman to win a major title, no matter how talented and experienced she might be, on so little match play is a sad indictment of the WTA Tour.

This result also tells me that the young band of players — Nicole Vaidisova, Jelena Jankovic, Shahar Peer, Nadia Petrova, and even Maria Sharapova on the evidence of the final — are intimidated by Williams when she is focused on the job and brimful of determination. You have to admit, she must be a pretty awesome sight across the net when she is slamming winners.

People were shocked when Venus Williams got through to win the Wimbledon title in 2005, but this achievement eclipses even that. Just a few weeks ago, Serena turned up in Hobart for a minor warm-up tournament and lasted a couple of rounds before losing out to a player who was eliminated here within a couple of days.

I can understand why Serena allowed her concentration to wander into the worlds of acting and fashion. She lived and breathed little other than tennis for most of her teens and everybody needs time to break out. You also have to add the distress she felt when her half-sister was murdered in 2003. I lost a half-brother when I was a junior player and it was something I struggled to come to terms with for years. Now she is back and I hope that we see Serena contending at Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Flushing Meadows. I will not be making the same mistake again."

brickhousesupporter
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:28 PM
Alright, but again what's really so bad about writing someone off, especially if the person won't read it.

Anyway, plenty of people on here seem to get most of their joy of being a fan of a player because people write their fave off. And some players even admit if they do read it, it inspires them more than anything else.

Serena's 07 AO win would probably not be talked about as much even now if not one single person had written her off before, if she went in as the favourite.

Serena in her book said she used that article by Tracy as motivation to beat Sharapova. She had something to prove. So much for them never seeing it.

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 02:35 PM
Serena in her book said she used that article by Tracy as motivation to beat Sharapova. She had something to prove. So much for them never seeing it.

Yeah that's what I said. So, what real harm did Tracy's article do?

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:00 PM
pat cash never apologised really...he simply bashed the wta afterwards :lol:

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:02 PM
Yeah that's what I said. So, what real harm did Tracy's article do?

:shrug: but the title of the thread is "articles they wish they had never written" so :shrug: obviously the haste with which tracy took down her article shows she wishes she had never written...couldn't be found within 10 mins after the final :lol:

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:07 PM
It gets better. I like that he had the guts to admit he was wrong.....Tracy never did. I also liked that he threw Tracy under the bus.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article1267495.ece


Strewth! I called it wrong

Pat Cash is happy to eat humble pie after Serena Williams produces an awesome display of power tennis to win in Melbourne

Pat Cash

"AUSTRALIANS are not very good at admitting their mistakes. Maybe that’s because it doesn’t happen very often when sport is concerned, but I hold my hands up in apology, I got it wrong all ends up about Serena Williams. In my defence, I was not alone. Tracy Austin, who knows more about women’s tennis than me, laughed at the suggestion that the former world No 1 had a legitimate shot at climbing back to the top. Yet here are the two of us, and many more besides, eating humble pie after Serena collected a third Australian Open title to take her Grand Slam collection to eight.

What does this win mean, except for the fact I once again appreciate it’s a good job I don’t gamble because I would have put a lot of money on Serena not even being around for the second week of the tournament, let alone winning the whole thing? Foremost, it proves she is a a dynamic athlete and quite simply the strongest female player the game has ever known. It defies belief that she can turn up for a Grand Slam after playing just four tournaments in the past 12 months and win the thing. However, it reinforces my long-held view that there is a huge disparity between the relative strengths of the men’s and women’s games. For a woman to win a major title, no matter how talented and experienced she might be, on so little match play is a sad indictment of the WTA Tour.

This result also tells me that the young band of players — Nicole Vaidisova, Jelena Jankovic, Shahar Peer, Nadia Petrova, and even Maria Sharapova on the evidence of the final — are intimidated by Williams when she is focused on the job and brimful of determination. You have to admit, she must be a pretty awesome sight across the net when she is slamming winners.

People were shocked when Venus Williams got through to win the Wimbledon title in 2005, but this achievement eclipses even that. Just a few weeks ago, Serena turned up in Hobart for a minor warm-up tournament and lasted a couple of rounds before losing out to a player who was eliminated here within a couple of days.

I can understand why Serena allowed her concentration to wander into the worlds of acting and fashion. She lived and breathed little other than tennis for most of her teens and everybody needs time to break out. You also have to add the distress she felt when her half-sister was murdered in 2003. I lost a half-brother when I was a junior player and it was something I struggled to come to terms with for years. Now she is back and I hope that we see Serena contending at Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Flushing Meadows. I will not be making the same mistake again."


see the difference??

serena returns and wins: omg the wta sucks ass!!!

kim and jh return and win: omg they are so amazing!!!

ws fans aren't as deluded as everyone here would make it out to be :lol: barring the usual woe-is-me-woe-is-the-wta people on here, the belgian return is "the coming of a new dawn"...yet when pat cash et al have to eat some humble pie in dismissing serena, suddenly that same wta is very weak

miffedmax
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:12 PM
Oh, I'm getting real tired of the Belgians saving the WTA tour/Serena's wins in 2008/09 don't count crap. Yeah, there were some crappy finals, but some of the quarters and semis Serena won against players like Lena and Kuzzy--or in France, DIDN'T win against Kuzzy--showed that slams don't just fall in your lap no matter who you are.

That's not to say there WTA doesn't have some very real, very deep issues facing it, it's to say that having one or two players out there isn't making all that big a difference in the face of idiotic roadmaps, a dearth of up-and-coming talent, lengthening casualty lists, players having to take sabbaticals to stay competitive, etc. etc. etc.

bandabou
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:18 PM
:lol: Of course now the Williams-fans are paranoid, huh? It's there written...but of course there's no one blinder than the one who doesn't WANT to see. Juju and Kim ae the saviors..save the tennis world of the bad williams sisters.

When Serena won, after dropping out of the 100 due to whatever reasons..woooo, the tour is bad! Nobody can beat even that Serena?! :lol:

it's good though. Revenge is better served cold!

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:18 PM
Oh, I'm getting real tired of the Belgians saving the WTA tour/Serena's wins in 2008/09 don't count crap. Yeah, there were some crappy finals, but some of the quarters and semis Serena won against players like Lena and Kuzzy--or in France, DIDN'T win against Kuzzy--showed that slams don't just fall in your lap no matter who you are.

That's not to say there WTA doesn't have some very real, very deep issues facing it, it's to say that having one or two players out there isn't making all that big a difference in the face of idiotic roadmaps, a dearth of up-and-coming talent, lengthening casualty lists, players having to take sabbaticals to stay competitive,players cutting their bangs to piss me off etc. etc. etc.

:D

bandabou
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:24 PM
Alright, but again what's really so bad about writing someone off, especially if the person won't read it.

Anyway, plenty of people on here seem to get most of their joy of being a fan of a player because people write their fave off. And some players even admit if they do read it, it inspires them more than anything else.

Serena's 07 AO win would probably not be talked about as much even now if not one single person had written her off before, if she went in as the favourite.

Are u for real?! You, of all people? Come on, Dave. Can do better than that. Just admit that what they wrote about Serena back then was totally uncalled for.

And yeah Lindsay's win over Serena at the Open '00 was one of the worst beat-downs Serena ever got. No doubt.

The Witch-king
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:30 PM
:lol: Of course now the Williams-fans are paranoid, huh? It's there written...but of course there's no one blinder than the one who doesn't WANT to see. Juju and Kim ae the saviors..save the tennis world of the bad williams sisters.

When Serena won, after dropping out of the 100 due to whatever reasons..woooo, the tour is bad! Nobody can beat even that Serena?! :lol:

it's good though. Revenge is better served cold!
ooh chile you just reminded me i need to bump my AO jam thread!!

revenge is best served as a cold dish,
and suckas will get SERVED betta know this

Olórin
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:57 PM
Oh, I'm getting real tired of the Belgians saving the WTA tour/Serena's wins in 2008/09 don't count crap. Yeah, there were some crappy finals, but some of the quarters and semis Serena won against players like Lena and Kuzzy--or in France, DIDN'T win against Kuzzy--showed that slams don't just fall in your lap no matter who you are.

That's not to say there WTA doesn't have some very real, very deep issues facing it, it's to say that having one or two players out there isn't making all that big a difference in the face of idiotic roadmaps, a dearth of up-and-coming talent, lengthening casualty lists, players having to take sabbaticals to stay competitive, etc. etc. etc.

Just picking up on this - what irks me is that many people overlook, when bemoaning the quality of the WTA in 2008 and 2009, the fact that in 2008 we had two GS finals which were long and close and a good deal better than any GS Final in 2007 and many before that: the Wimbledon Final 2008 and US Open Final 2008 - both two hours+ matches with lots of ups and downs, entertainment and excellent quality tennis.

And obviously you make a good points about QFs and SFs being the same quality we are always used to. I don't know why some people complain so much about women's tennis because I can't remember the last time we had a boring slam. Obviously in terms of the actual tour - future top players etc. yes there are some issues.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 06:23 PM
it's a matter of who's winning ;)

jankovic gave an excellent account of herself in her only slam final against serena....but that's probably because she enjoys the big stage more than any other player yet people complain that it didn't go to 3 sets...the AO final went to 3 sets and STILL they weren't satisfied...let's see if we can look back on the past years' slam finals

2004 AO - only excitement came when kim was FINALLY in a winning position against jh in a big match and got robbed (surprisingly :tape: )
2004 RG - for max's sake we won't mention this :lol:
2004 Wimbledon - easy slam win for maria, but the excitement was over WHO she beat and not HOW she won (as usual)
2004 USO - pretty good...decent standard

2005 AO - decentish final with both players playing well at different parts (lindsay to begin and serena at the end)
2005 RG - jh puts the ball in play for pierce to hit out, so much so the crowd actually groaned and mary acknowledged her monstrous play in her speech
2005 Wimbledon - best final :worship: just awesome
2005 USO - kim put the ball in play for pierce to hit out :o

2006 AO - retirement after saying she was in the best shape ever :o
2006 RG - easy win for jh over sveta
2006 Wimbledon - good final
2006 USO - maria manhandles jh

2007 AO - yea no one was touching serena that day :tape: :help:
2007 RG - jh puts the ball in play for ana to hit out
2007 Wimbledon - so so final...marion didn't really stand a chance :shrug:
2007 USO - jh put the ball in play for sveta to hit out (again) - which, need i mention, followed one of the WORST matches played :o

2008 AO - decent final, good match
2008 RG - :cheer: decent final :cheer:
2008 Wimbledon - quality was high, but i think what has some people is how hot serena started and then just fizzled to the finished line, and not the quality
2008 USO - very good match...most i've seen jj attack in a whole match...very entertaining

2009 AO - dinara just can't touch serena sorry :shrug:
2009 RG - let's not go there :o
2009 Wimbledon - very high quality match, just lacked drama at the end
2009 USO - didn't watch but from what i heard it wasn't a big hoopla

2010 AO - decent final

15 finals out of 25 were atrocious or merely watchable...so i don't get why 2008/2009 are harped on as these years that sucked ever so much especially because the saviours weren't there, when from 2004 - 2009 horrible or merely watchable finals were the standard, with the odd finals being decent to pretty good quality

Uranium
Feb 2nd, 2010, 06:26 PM
2009 AO - dinara just can't touch serena sorry :shrug:
2009 RG - let's not go there :o
2009 Wimbledon - very high quality match, just lacked drama at the end
2009 USO - didn't watch but from what i heard it wasn't a big hoopla


Did we watch the same final?

serenafann
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:42 PM
You know the articles I am referring to. The ones that so miss the mark that in hindsight, the authors look silly for writing them. Feel free to post your favorites.

My all time favorite...The year is 2007 and Tracy Austin gives us her take on the 2007 Australian Open Championship. The article was so far off the mark, that the article was removed from the website immediately after Serena won.


Serena's improbable run to end

Unseeded American will fall to top-seeded Sharapova in Aussie final


COMMENTARY
By Tracy Austin
NBCSports.com contributor
updated 1:55 p.m. CT, Thurs., Jan. 25, 2007


MELBOURNE, Australia - Serena Williams has given tennis fans an Australian Open to remember.
Entering the first major of 2007 ranked as world No. 81 due to having played in only four events in 2006, the 25-year-old American has defied the odds to reach her 10th Grand Slam final.
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She has taken out five seeded players, and she says she hasn't even played well yet Down Under.
There's no question Serena has exceeded expectations, but she is going to have her work cut out for her when she takes on top-seeded Maria Sharapova in the women's singles final.
Sharapova is going to be a huge step up in class for Williams -- too big a step in my opinion as I see the Russian taking the title.
Sharapova in storming form
There’s no doubt that Sharapova has elevated her game in the last few months. She is also a more confident player than she was before she won her second major at last year's U.S. Open.
The 19-year-old was already a great player on the attack, but her defense has gotten better and she has been serving well on big points.

Overall there are more facets to her game than there used to be, and you can see all the little pieces falling into place as Sharapova improves.
Williams’ semifinal opponent Nicole Vaidisova is a stablemate of Sharapova’s at Nick Bollettieri’s tennis academy in Florida, and she has a similar game to Sharapova's but with one big difference -- Sharapova is much better at that game than is Vaidisova.
Sharapova is a tough cookie and she won’t be intimidated the way Vaidisova was against Williams. She was not intimidated by Williams when she was 17 and playing in the Wimbledon final, and she certainly is not going to be intimidated now as a seasoned player who has won two majors.
Sharapova hits the ball so early, so deep and so well on a consistent basis. I think she is going to rush Williams and therefore test her conditioning a lot more than it has been tested so far.
At her peak, Williams moved so well it was impossible to rush her, but Sharapova is going to put her on her back foot over and over again.
Let's break down their games.

SERVE
It’s tough to choose between them. Williams has a big serve and she has used it well this tournament, but Sharapova’s serve is much improved. I don't see a decided edge for either of them on the serve.
EDGE: EVEN



RETURN OF SERVE
Williams used to have one of the best returns in the game, but it is not quite "on" yet.
Sharapova is returning a lot better than she used to, and she is being smarter about choosing when to go for her returns too.
EDGE: SHARAPOVA


VOLLEYS
Sharapova really does not volley unless she is fairly sure of hitting a winner, so she makes a higher percentage of a the volleys she hits. Williams, though, is a more natural volleyer.
EDGE: WILLIAMS


FOREHAND
Both Williams and Sharapova have incredibly powerful forehands, but both are also prone to mistakes on that wing.
I think Williams’ lack of matches puts her at a slight disadvantage here so, on current form, she loses out to Sharapova.
EDGE: SHARAPOVA


BACKHAND
Right here, right now, Sharapova’s backhand is a safer shot than Williams’ is, so I back the Russian here too.
So many shots are about confidence, and in three months’ time, when Williams has a few more matches under her belt, then she is going to be stronger in so many areas, including this one.
EDGE: SHARAPOVA


FITNESS AND ATHLETICISM
I would split these categories into two. I think Williams is the more agile mover and is the better athlete naturally, but there is no question that Sharapova is in much better shape.
EDGE ATHLETICISM: WILLIAMS
EDGE FITNESS: SHARAPOVA


STRATEGY
This is not going to be a strategic contest, it is going to be a battle of serves and power hitting. It is going to be about who executes their shots better on the day.
EDGE: EVEN


MENTAL TOUGHNESS
These are two of the strongest players mentally in the women’s game. Neither of them ever gives up and they have that champion’s ability to compete well even if they aren’t necessarily playing well.
EDGE: EVEN
MY PICK
SHARAPOVA IN STRAIGHT SETS

:lol: :lol:

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:20 PM
Are u for real?! You, of all people? Come on, Dave. Can do better than that. Just admit that what they wrote about Serena back then was totally uncalled for.

And yeah Lindsay's win over Serena at the Open '00 was one of the worst beat-downs Serena ever got. No doubt.


Were they actually insulting her or anything? All I'm saying is I don't see what harm writing someone off does if they've just had the worst season of their career. It clearly helped her more than anything.

it's a matter of who's winning ;)

jankovic gave an excellent account of herself in her only slam final against serena....but that's probably because she enjoys the big stage more than any other player yet people complain that it didn't go to 3 sets...the AO final went to 3 sets and STILL they weren't satisfied...let's see if we can look back on the past years' slam finals

2004 AO - only excitement came when kim was FINALLY in a winning position against jh in a big match and got robbed (surprisingly :tape: )
2004 RG - for max's sake we won't mention this :lol:
2004 Wimbledon - easy slam win for maria, but the excitement was over WHO she beat and not HOW she won (as usual)
2004 USO - pretty good...decent standard

2005 AO - decentish final with both players playing well at different parts (lindsay to begin and serena at the end)
2005 RG - jh puts the ball in play for pierce to hit out, so much so the crowd actually groaned and mary acknowledged her monstrous play in her speech
2005 Wimbledon - best final :worship: just awesome
2005 USO - kim put the ball in play for pierce to hit out :o

2006 AO - retirement after saying she was in the best shape ever :o
2006 RG - easy win for jh over sveta
2006 Wimbledon - good final
2006 USO - maria manhandles jh

2007 AO - yea no one was touching serena that day :tape: :help:
2007 RG - jh puts the ball in play for ana to hit out
2007 Wimbledon - so so final...marion didn't really stand a chance :shrug:
2007 USO - jh put the ball in play for sveta to hit out (again) - which, need i mention, followed one of the WORST matches played :o

2008 AO - decent final, good match
2008 RG - :cheer: decent final :cheer:
2008 Wimbledon - quality was high, but i think what has some people is how hot serena started and then just fizzled to the finished line, and not the quality
2008 USO - very good match...most i've seen jj attack in a whole match...very entertaining

2009 AO - dinara just can't touch serena sorry :shrug:
2009 RG - let's not go there :o
2009 Wimbledon - very high quality match, just lacked drama at the end
2009 USO - didn't watch but from what i heard it wasn't a big hoopla

2010 AO - decent final

15 finals out of 25 were atrocious or merely watchable...so i don't get why 2008/2009 are harped on as these years that sucked ever so much especially because the saviours weren't there, when from 2004 - 2009 horrible or merely watchable finals were the standard, with the odd finals being decent to pretty good quality

I hope this is just making fun of the bias of this forum and not you're serious take on those finals.

shoparound
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:27 PM
This is not WTA per say, but before Rafa's win over Fed in Wimbledon there was an article on ESPN that said if the final was the greatest match ever played he bets no one will watch it and no one will be entertained because tennis is not an american sport. Or something like that.
Well anyways, the match ended as a great classic and the writer apologized for saying that.

edificio
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:29 PM
You know the articles I am referring to. The ones that so miss the mark that in hindsight, the authors look silly for writing them. Feel free to post your favorites.

My all time favorite...The year is 2007 and Tracy Austin gives us her take on the 2007 Australian Open Championship. The article was so far off the mark, that the article was removed from the website immediately after Serena won.


Serena's improbable run to end

Unseeded American will fall to top-seeded Sharapova in Aussie final


COMMENTARY
By Tracy Austin
NBCSports.com contributor
updated 1:55 p.m. CT, Thurs., Jan. 25, 2007


MELBOURNE, Australia - Serena Williams has given tennis fans an Australian Open to remember.
Entering the first major of 2007 ranked as world No. 81 due to having played in only four events in 2006, the 25-year-old American has defied the odds to reach her 10th Grand Slam final.
[snip]
MENTAL TOUGHNESS
These are two of the strongest players mentally in the women’s game. Neither of them ever gives up and they have that champion’s ability to compete well even if they aren’t necessarily playing well.
EDGE: EVEN
MY PICK
SHARAPOVA IN STRAIGHT SETS

I never saw this article before, but it is f@cking hilarious! Especially when she breaks down their qualities. Thank you, Tracy, for the laugh. :rolleyes:

edificio
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:34 PM
Comments on this:

Mauresmo and jankovic hit with as much power as Serena? In what universe? It's also interesting to note that Mauresmo basically did nothing of any significance after he wrote this article, and that Serena beat three of the players mentioned in the very next tournament.

Mauresmo used to hit hard, way back when, before she won AO. She changed her game.

But, yeah, Pat Cash. What a tool. Good to see he wrote again to say he was wrong, though he then damned the WTA. He definitely has an axe to grind. Ha ha ha!

Stamp Paid
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:42 PM
Had Tracy not been watching Maria that whole tournament?
Her serve was a fucking wreck :spit:

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:06 PM
Were they actually insulting her or anything? All I'm saying is I don't see what harm writing someone off does if they've just had the worst season of their career. It clearly helped her more than anything.



I hope this is just making fun of the bias of this forum and not you're serious take on those finals.

the only one i joked about was RG 08

all the rest were horrible bar 2005 Wimbledon, 2008 US Open...is there a problem??

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:06 PM
Mauresmo used to hit hard, way back when, before she won AO. She changed her game.

But, yeah, Pat Cash. What a tool. Good to see he wrote again to say he was wrong, though he then damned the WTA. He definitely has an axe to grind. Ha ha ha!

mauresmo a power player :o

DOUBLEFIST
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:08 PM
:lol: That Pat Cash article is the Gift that Keeps on Giving.

Uranium
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:12 PM
the only one i joked about was RG 08

all the rest were horrible bar 2005 Wimbledon, 2008 US Open...is there a problem??

2008 Wimbledon Final was horrible? Maybe the result was for you, but that was a good final.

edificio
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:30 PM
Wimbledon 2009 final was a good match, even if it was only two sets.

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:34 PM
the only one i joked about was RG 08

all the rest were horrible bar 2005 Wimbledon, 2008 US Open...is there a problem??

Well you can be found in many a thread (including this one) complaining about bias against Serena and you do the exact same with Justine. All of her wins are her "putting the ball in play for x to hit out" and Serena's, nobody can touch her. Sorry but AO 09 final was no better then RG 05. :lol: And AO 05 was one of the most disgraceful performances I've ever seen in a slam final. Serena playing well in the end doesn't make it a good match. Even 2006 was better.


2008 Wimbledon Final was horrible? Maybe the result was for you, but that was a good final.

That's it.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:43 PM
the 2008 wimbledon final was fine in quality...what the complaint that most had here was the start serena had, as i said, and then fizzled out...is that an issue?

in that RG win over pierce, pierce couldn't hit a ball in the court to save her life and acknowledged as much...

in that RG win over sveta, sveta was alright but she hit out almost all the balls on important points

in that RG win over ana, ana started well but from 1-0 40-0 up she got so nervous she could hardly hit balls to the net, let alone hit them out

in that USO win against kuzzy...do i need to say it again???

safina is no match for serena...fact...and did you watch the AO 07 final??? serena was on a mission...she was blitzing whoever her opponent was :shrug: she had in her mind that it was for yetunde and no one was taking it from her...

if you dispute those show me something different...kuzzy has the game to beat jh, not the head...ana started well, and her slight lead got her nervous (should have alerted us to what would happen after her first slam win)...pierce...well...those finals were all about jh's opponent stinking up the joint...serena actually hit her opponents off the court :shrug:

Olórin
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:45 PM
Well you can be found in many a thread (including this one) complaining about bias against Serena and you do the exact same with Justine. All of her wins are her "putting the ball in play for x to hit out" and Serena's, nobody can touch her. Sorry but AO 09 final was no better then RG 05. :lol: And AO 05 was one of the most disgraceful performances I've ever seen in a slam final. Serena playing well in the end doesn't make it a good match. Even 2006 was better.

:help: Sure lazy Lindsay tanked the last set but the first two were pretty good.
I think this is also a case of the result for you making the whole final undesirable - saying the 2006 final was better is just not right Dave :lol:
I agree about the RG 05 being no worse than AO 09 though, of course I could watch AO 09 all day just because I love to see Serena winning :drool:

Dave.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 10:12 PM
the 2008 wimbledon final was fine in quality...what the complaint that most had here was the start serena had, as i said, and then fizzled out...is that an issue?

in that RG win over pierce, pierce couldn't hit a ball in the court to save her life and acknowledged as much...

in that RG win over sveta, sveta was alright but she hit out almost all the balls on important points

in that RG win over ana, ana started well but from 1-0 40-0 up she got so nervous she could hardly hit balls to the net, let alone hit them out

in that USO win against kuzzy...do i need to say it again???

safina is no match for serena...fact...and did you watch the AO 07 final??? serena was on a mission...she was blitzing whoever her opponent was :shrug: she had in her mind that it was for yetunde and no one was taking it from her...

if you dispute those show me something different...kuzzy has the game to beat jh, not the head...ana started well, and her slight lead got her nervous (should have alerted us to what would happen after her first slam win)...pierce...well...those finals were all about jh's opponent stinking up the joint...serena actually hit her opponents off the court :shrug:


I'm not saying anything about 2007. :confused:

06 RG might not have been that good either but at least there were important points to be played. :lol: AO 2009, Safina had beaten Serena before too (probably the same ratio as Kuz to JH), just mentally not there in a slam final, nothing.


:help: Sure lazy Lindsay tanked the last set but the first two were pretty good.
I think this is also a case of the result for you making the whole final undesirable - saying the 2006 final was better is just not right Dave :lol:
I agree about the RG 05 being no worse than AO 09 though, of course I could watch AO 09 all day just because I love to see Serena winning :drool:

Lazy Lindsay. :happy: Ok it might not be that bad but Lindsay may aswell have retired. I actually think there's alot to be admired in Mauresmo's play in 06 but of course the retirement ruins the match.

mdterp01
Feb 4th, 2010, 12:34 AM
Here's the apology from Pat Cash after his EPIC FAIL article

http://www.nickbollettieri.com/aboutNick/tournamentArticle.cfm?artID=102

Pat Cash Apologizes
AUSTRALIANS are not very good at admitting their mistakes. Maybe that’s because it doesn’t happen very often when sport is concerned, but I hold my hands up in apology, I got it wrong all ends up about Serena Williams. In my defence, I was not alone. Tracy Austin, who knows more about women’s tennis than me, laughed at the suggestion that the former world No. 1 had a legitimate shot at climbing back to the top. Yet here are the two of us, and many more besides, eating humble pie after Serena collected a third Australian Open title to take her Grand Slam collection to eight.

What does this win mean, except for the fact I once again appreciate it’s a good job I don’t gamble because I would have put a lot of money on Serena not even being around for the second week of the tournament, let alone winning the whole thing? Foremost, it proves she is a a dynamic athlete and quite simply the strongest female player the game has ever known. It defies belief that she can turn up for a Grand Slam after playing just four tournaments in the past 12 months and win the thing. However, it reinforces my long-held view that there is a huge disparity between the relative strengths of the men’s and women’s games. For a woman to win a major title, no matter how talented and experienced she might be, on so little match play is a sad indictment of the WTA Tour.

This result also tells me that the young band of players — Nicole Vaidisova, Jelena Jankovic, Shahar Peer, Nadia Petrova, and even Maria Sharapova on the evidence of the final — are intimidated by Williams when she is focused on the job and brimful of determination. You have to admit, she must be a pretty awesome sight across the net when she is slamming winners.

People were shocked when Venus Williams got through to win the Wimbledon title in 2005, but this achievement eclipses even that. Just a few weeks ago, Serena turned up in Hobart for a minor warm-up tournament and lasted a couple of rounds before losing out to a player who was eliminated here within a couple of days.

I can understand why Serena allowed her concentration to wander into the worlds of acting and fashion. She lived and breathed little other than tennis for most of her teens and everybody needs time to break out. You also have to add the distress she felt when her half-sister was murdered in 2003. I lost a half-brother when I was a junior player and it was something I struggled to come to terms with for years. Now she is back and I hope that we see Serena contending at Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Flushing Meadows. I will not be making the same mistake again.
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Whoever said it earlier was right. That Pat Cash article is indeed the gift that keeps on giving!! :lol::rolls:

friendsita
Feb 4th, 2010, 12:55 AM
Serena's improbable run to end

Unseeded American will fall to top-seeded Sharapova in Aussie final


COMMENTARY
By Tracy Austin
NBCSports.com contributor
updated 1:55 p.m. CT, Thurs., Jan. 25, 2007

Sharapova is going to be a huge step up in class for Williams -- too big a step in my opinion as I see the Russian taking the title.

MY PICK
SHARAPOVA IN STRAIGHT SETS

at least it was in straight sets... :lol:
tracy :o

DOUBLEFIST
Feb 4th, 2010, 04:22 AM
Here's the apology from Pat Cash after his EPIC FAIL article

http://www.nickbollettieri.com/aboutNick/tournamentArticle.cfm?artID=102

Pat Cash Apologizes
AUSTRALIANS are not very good at admitting their mistakes. Maybe that’s because it doesn’t happen very often when sport is concerned, but I hold my hands up in apology, I got it wrong all ends up about Serena Williams. In my defence, I was not alone. Tracy Austin, who knows more about women’s tennis than me, laughed at the suggestion that the former world No. 1 had a legitimate shot at climbing back to the top. Yet here are the two of us, and many more besides, eating humble pie after Serena collected a third Australian Open title to take her Grand Slam collection to eight.

What does this win mean, except for the fact I once again appreciate it’s a good job I don’t gamble because I would have put a lot of money on Serena not even being around for the second week of the tournament, let alone winning the whole thing? Foremost, it proves she is a a dynamic athlete and quite simply the strongest female player the game has ever known. It defies belief that she can turn up for a Grand Slam after playing just four tournaments in the past 12 months and win the thing. However, it reinforces my long-held view that there is a huge disparity between the relative strengths of the men’s and women’s games. For a woman to win a major title, no matter how talented and experienced she might be, on so little match play is a sad indictment of the WTA Tour.

This result also tells me that the young band of players — Nicole Vaidisova, Jelena Jankovic, Shahar Peer, Nadia Petrova, and even Maria Sharapova on the evidence of the final — are intimidated by Williams when she is focused on the job and brimful of determination. You have to admit, she must be a pretty awesome sight across the net when she is slamming winners.

People were shocked when Venus Williams got through to win the Wimbledon title in 2005, but this achievement eclipses even that. Just a few weeks ago, Serena turned up in Hobart for a minor warm-up tournament and lasted a couple of rounds before losing out to a player who was eliminated here within a couple of days.

I can understand why Serena allowed her concentration to wander into the worlds of acting and fashion. She lived and breathed little other than tennis for most of her teens and everybody needs time to break out. You also have to add the distress she felt when her half-sister was murdered in 2003. I lost a half-brother when I was a junior player and it was something I struggled to come to terms with for years. Now she is back and I hope that we see Serena contending at Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Flushing Meadows. I will not be making the same mistake again.
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Whoever said it earlier was right. That Pat Cash article is indeed the gift that keeps on giving!! :lol::rolls:

:wavey:

Anyway, yeah, poor Pat. I remember reading that Mea Culpa. At first, it reads very sincere. Then, he drags Austin into his slime. Well, I guess he didn't have to "drag" much, but hey "misery loves company." Then makes matters worse by blaming the other girls in the WTA - those SAME girls that he TRUMPETED in his earlier, wrong-headed, article as being the ones that have SURPASSED Serena. :haha: I mean, :spit: Really? Really? To actually have the gall to BLAME those other girls as if NOBODY realized he had just praised them as Serena Slayers! :haha: Shameless! Absurdly, histerically, SHAMELESS!! Pat ought to run for office. He'd make an EXCELLENT politician. Great stuff. :lol:

Truly, the gift that keeps on giving.

Volcana
Feb 4th, 2010, 04:51 AM
We love to dog Pat Cash, but he was far from wrong.
Here's the apology from Pat Cash .....
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However, it reinforces my long-held view that there is a huge disparity between the relative strengths of the men’s and women’s games. For a woman to win a major title, no matter how talented and experienced she might be, on so little match play is a sad indictment of the WTA Tour.He could write the same thing ater the 2009 US Open, and 2010 OZ. Clijsters wins, Henin makes the final, both on near no match play/
This result also tells me that the young band of players — Nicole Vaidisova, Jelena Jankovic, Shahar Peer, Nadia Petrova, and even Maria Sharapova on the evidence of the final — are intimidated by Williams when she is focused on the job and brimful of determination.WHere are all the players he named now?

DOUBLEFIST
Feb 4th, 2010, 05:09 AM
We love to dog Pat Cash, but he was far from wrong.
He could write the same thing ater the 2009 US Open, and 2010 OZ. Clijsters wins, Henin makes the final, both on near no match play/
WHere are all the players he named now?
Oh, sure, AFTER the AO he said that, but that's not the song he was singin' BEFORE the '07 AO. And that's the point. BEFORE the AO they were bonafide, legitimized, midasized, authentic Serena Slayers. :lol:

Of course, it's just as easy to attribute Clijsters and Juju's recent success as testament to THEIR exceptional talent. That's certainly what I believe. Hell, people act like they left the game for ten years. Their talent doesn't just disappear. That's theirs. They own it. From there, it was just a matter of preparation.