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Julian.
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:05 PM
How many grand slam titles will Serena end up with when she retires? She has 12 now and she is 29 years old this year.

Mistress of Evil
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:11 PM
16 seems reasonable,

nevetssllim
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:12 PM
At least four more Grand Slam titles in singles.

Le Chat
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:14 PM
I think 18 is largely possible , with 2 per year for 3 years .

Valanga
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:34 PM
15 or 16..maybe

kiwifan
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:34 PM
I've always thought she'd have about 16; but I always thought some other great players would come along to challenge her...right now I think if she focuses on the Slams and plays her best at each one, she has to be the favorite over everyone on every surface (other than Justine on Clay). 18 is a reasonable goal; I think she's definitely going to win at least 16. :cool:

Hashim.
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:36 PM
at least 15..

ce
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:39 PM
16 :unsure:
but i hope more than 20 :)

bandabou
Feb 1st, 2010, 12:54 PM
I think barring injury or total loss of focus, she should end up with around 16 majors..and then it depends how long she wanna play.

jefrilibra
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:03 PM
As many as she wants to when she sets her mind to it. It's all up to Serena.

madmax
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:10 PM
12...she overachieved anyway

jefrilibra
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:28 PM
12...she overachieved anyway

And that's a bad thing???!!! :haha::rolls: :haha:

cehowardrx7
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:30 PM
Hopefully about 3 or 4 more. However, she is 29 years old right now. She has nothing more to PROVE. Unless she devotes all her time to tennis,it is going to be tough beating the younger players who are devoting all their time to tennis.

I hope she RETIRES after this season. Go out a super winner, a legend, and if not the best, at least one of the best woman tennis players of all time.

ce
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:34 PM
Hopefully about 3 or 4 more. However, she is 29 years old right now. She has nothing more to PROVE. Unless she devotes all her time to tennis,it is going to be tough beating the younger players who are devoting all their time to tennis.

I hope she RETIRES after this season. Go out a super winner, a legend, and if not the best, at least one of the best woman tennis players of all time.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(

mboyle
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:35 PM
Hopefully about 3 or 4 more. However, she is 29 years old right now. She has nothing more to PROVE. Unless she devotes all her time to tennis,it is going to be tough beating the younger players who are devoting all their time to tennis.

I hope she RETIRES after this season. Go out a super winner, a legend, and if not the best, at least one of the best woman tennis players of all time.

I'm pretty sure she wants a gold medal in singles really badly. She's not leaving before 2012.

Le Chat
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:36 PM
Hopefully about 3 or 4 more. However, she is 29 years old right now. She has nothing more to PROVE. Unless she devotes all her time to tennis,it is going to be tough beating the younger players who are devoting all their time to tennis.

I hope she RETIRES after this season. Go out a super winner, a legend, and if not the best, at least one of the best woman tennis players of all time.


:confused: Why ..? if she keep on playing well why not 31/32 .?

dsanders06
Feb 1st, 2010, 02:38 PM
15 or 16. Certainly a magnificent haul, but would mean she'd definitely be remembered as just missing out on the very top tier of modern greats (Graf, Navratilova and Evert).

trufanjay
Feb 1st, 2010, 02:51 PM
I think at least 16-18 is reasonable. But it depends on how hard she works and how many she wants

Bezz
Feb 1st, 2010, 02:53 PM
15 or 16 i reckon

dany.p
Feb 1st, 2010, 03:13 PM
16 seems to be the number to go with , but i'm gonna guess 18-20. 3 Oz, 2 wimbledon, a us open or 2, and maybe, just maybe a french.

ElusiveChanteuse
Feb 1st, 2010, 03:17 PM
Until she breaks Fed's record.:cheer:

Bijoux0021
Feb 1st, 2010, 03:27 PM
Hopefully about 3 or 4 more. However, she is 29 years old right now. She has nothing more to PROVE. Unless she devotes all her time to tennis,it is going to be tough beating the younger players who are devoting all their time to tennis.

I hope she RETIRES after this season. Go out a super winner, a legend, and if not the best, at least one of the best woman tennis players of all time.
She's 28.

cehowardrx7
Feb 1st, 2010, 03:28 PM
:confused: Why ..? if she keep on playing well why not 31/32 .?

IMO, she has already beat the wheel. Serena has been able to keep up and win even with injuries and not applying her full attention to tennis. It takes a lot to stay focus on JUST TENNIS. You have to be hungry and super ambitcious. She has already done the impossible. She is not hungry, I put her and Venus on at least $300 million each.

I would love to see her knock out 31/32.. I am a old guy, I have seen old boxers lay around and get made a fool of by the younger genaration. Don't want that to happen to the sisters..

Bijoux0021
Feb 1st, 2010, 03:30 PM
More than 20.

Olórin
Feb 1st, 2010, 03:35 PM
How many grand slam titles will Serena end up with when she retires? She has 12 now and she is 29 years old this year.

She's 28.

Thanks for emphasising that. Does no-one else find the OPs statement of Serena's age not a little disingenuous?

Serena will be 28 for every Grand Slam this year and 29 for every Grand Slam next year. That's two full seasons of being in her 20's. Serena is in better shape now than at 25 so I don't see why she shouldn't maintain this until 2012 as she has stated.

That said how many she wins will depend on this year, if she can remain healthy and pick up her game throughout the year (like last year) she has some momentum on her side that even Kim, Justine and Venus will have to provide quite a performance to halt.

cehowardrx7
Feb 1st, 2010, 04:59 PM
She's 28.

Thanks for the correction!http://www.cehoward.net/badteeth%5b1%5d.gif

I am 69 years old, and not as sharp as I use to be!http://www.cehoward.net/badteeth%5b1%5d.gif

tennisphilia
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:14 PM
I'm guessing that Serena will be playing until she's 35.
Unlike the other players, she and her sister have chosen NOT TO BE burnt out.
And, she'll be capable of winning 1 - 2 Grand Slam titles / year.
That should push her total to about 20-21 Grand Slams.

Thanx4nothin
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:22 PM
18

Stamp Paid
Feb 1st, 2010, 05:53 PM
16 and a gold medal
and I'll be pleased. :)

hurricanejeanne
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:04 PM
At least 16, I can't see her retiring until after the 2012 Olympics (at the earliest).

The Daviator
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:07 PM
17 :yeah:

Thanx4nothin
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:10 PM
Let's be honest though, she has been amazingly blessed to win 12, and tbh she may never win another one, and I'll still be thrilled with her altho it would be a huge underachievement. IMHO anything less than 18 is an underachievement.

dsanders06
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:17 PM
I think some people are being a bit optimistic about how long Serena can keep going. It's only natural for players to go in decline when 30 approaches. Suddenly some new doubts creep in, and all of a sudden the surprise losses start mounting. You only have to look at the sudden drop-off in Mauresmo's results between 2006 and 2007 to see that, and arguably it might be starting to happen to Venus. Plus, there's also the fact it's natural for athletes to get more injury-prone when they get to that age. Look at Graf... she managed to keep herself relatively injury-free for most of her career (she never had any really long lay-offs for most of her career anyway), but when she got to about 28, her body pretty much crumbled.

I give Serena two more years of being one of the top players. After that point, although she may have a shock Sampras/Graf-style swansong Slam win, I don't think she'll be able to keep up at this level anymore.

2moretogo
Feb 1st, 2010, 06:33 PM
Who knows? :shrug:

I tend to think it is completely up to Serena.

Having said that, I think she'll try for 20 + a gold medal in 2012. Whether she achieves that who knows. But I definately think she'll put herself out of striking distance from her peers (Justine/Kim/Venus- maybe even Maria).

DOUBLEFIST
Feb 1st, 2010, 07:10 PM
Well, Cahill says he sees Serena playing at a slam winning level for the next 4 or 5 more years. After 28, she would definitely be outside the envelope as far as females winning slams, but Serena has ALWAYS been outside the envelope. All this to say, I believe that Serena wants 18 and never bet against Serena. If she averages a little over 1 slam over the next 5 years, it's a done deal.

RenaSlam.
Feb 1st, 2010, 08:53 PM
She'll tie Evert and Navratilova.

young_gunner913
Feb 1st, 2010, 08:55 PM
1 billion. Mwuhahahahaha...

More seriously... I think she could tie Chris-Martina but I wouldnt be suprised if she had 19.

SAEKeithSerena
Feb 1st, 2010, 09:31 PM
18.

dscho99
Feb 1st, 2010, 10:13 PM
16 seems reasonable,


And when Henin wins the next FO and Wimbledon you think it is "reasonable" to suggest that she will win 16 slam too, right?

And if Wozniacki wins FO and USO you would be quite sure that she will go on and win another 6 slams at least, yes?


OMG ...:lol::lol::lol:

dscho99
Feb 1st, 2010, 10:14 PM
I think 18 is largely possible , with 2 per year for 3 years .


Er, she has won only 6 of the last 26 slams ...

dscho99
Feb 1st, 2010, 10:15 PM
She'll tie Evert and Navratilova.

:lol::lol::bounce:

MrSerenaWilliams
Feb 1st, 2010, 10:17 PM
well I'm not alone in my opinion ;)

freeandlonely
Feb 1st, 2010, 10:26 PM
16, maybe.
2 more wimby and 2 more USO.

friendsita
Feb 1st, 2010, 10:28 PM
no less than 15

Steffica Greles
Feb 1st, 2010, 10:48 PM
Last year I wrote a list of around 15 slams where Serena was a major contender and might well have won had she played well. That was being generous, allowing for injuries of course, yet discounting numerous other opportunities she's had and not come through. The list was compiled before the US Open last year, so let's add that.


If she'd even won a quarter of those slams, she'd now be on 16. A third, she'd be on 17. Half, she'd be on 20!!!


So it all depends on how well Serena stay focused. The track record says she finds that difficult. In only ONE calendar year has she won 3 slams or more, and in only THREE has she even won 2 slams.


I think another French Open would be a huge achievement which would really rise her up the list of all-time greats. In 2002 she was the best player on clay, even better than Henin, but she was pit bull eager then, and she's never been quite that eager since. It all depends on Serena.

mauresmofan
Feb 1st, 2010, 11:40 PM
With that serve alone she's difficult to beat but funnily enough I believe the return of the Belgians has spurred her on because she knows they are a real threat therefore upping her effort level in practises and her focus on court. What's most impressive is how she demands a better performance from herself and she delivers time and again when she's in trouble in matches. She's amazing.

LightWarrior
Feb 1st, 2010, 11:46 PM
She's obsessed with records. I'm sure that right now she aiming at Nav and Evert's 18. But let's face it, she's running out of time.

venusallday
Feb 2nd, 2010, 12:37 AM
Er, she has won only 6 of the last 26 slams ...

lol which also happens to be 4 of the last 6 slams. If she maintains that ratio, she'll have eight slams in the next 3 years...

i think she'll find a happy medium. i say 18!

Chrissie-fan
Feb 2nd, 2010, 12:49 AM
Hard to say because Henin and Clijsters will probably also win some more and it's always hard to predict how good the youngsters will become, but my guess would be 15 or 16.

danieln1
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:01 AM
2010 - australian and us open
2011- australian and wimbledon
2012- roland garros and us open
2013- wimbledon and us open

19 or more... and it´s not impossible for her, not at all... because I think her average will be 2 per year, bar injuries/lack of interest

trufanjay
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:06 AM
Had Serena not hurt her knee in 2003, I'm a firm believer she would already be at 18 right now.

Serena turns 29 this year. She's won 12 majors. She has one of the best major finals records all-time (see Margaret Court and Helen Wills Moody). She just won the Australian Open for a 5th time. She's #1. The wind is at her back. Enters the women of Belgium.

I think Venus might have at least one more Wimbledon in her. I think Justine might have at least two French Opens in her. I think Kim Clijsters has one French and one US Open in her. That leaves two US Opens, one Wimbledon and one Australian Open for Serena before she retires at 32. But who knows? In the next two years, one of the European girls could catch fire.

I do think you'll be seeing Serena and Venus consistently playing doubles in grand slam events for the next two years, approaching the 2012 Olympics. They will be going for the sister slam at the 2010 French Open! Go Venus and Serena!
I agree. I don't think people realize that 12 grand slams is way below Serena's potential up to this point. But you can't win them all.

Serena has had some ups and downs in her career and I think that she realizes that she is capable of winning a great amount of grand slams. I can't truly predict how many that will be, but I think Serena has a new agenda and that is simply to win as many slams as possible. She will compete on the tour for the next two years at the very LEAST. So we will see.

trufanjay
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:09 AM
2010 - australian and us open
2011- australian and wimbledon
2012- roland garros and us open
2013- wimbledon and us open

19 or more... and it´s not impossible for her, not at all... because I think her average will be 2 per year, bar injuries/lack of interest
It's just so hard to predict. She has the ability to win even more than that :lol:

So many things can happen within the course of three years. If she's injury free then most grand slams are at her mercy.

Justin SW
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:29 AM
I call:

2 more Us Open
2 more Wimbledon
1 more Aussie Open
1 More French...

so 18 :D

Julian.
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:38 AM
Thanks for emphasising that. Does no-one else find the OPs statement of Serena's age not a little disingenuous?


Way over-analyzing. :cuckoo:

I don't remember Serena's birthday exactly and I only remember she is born in 1981. Hence, I put she is 29 this year.

Justin SW
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:40 AM
Serena was born on September 26 1981 in SAGINAW MICHIGAN :p :ras:

SHE IS a young 28 :drool:

égalité
Feb 2nd, 2010, 04:12 AM
15 or 16 :worship:

AcesHigh
Feb 2nd, 2010, 04:17 AM
I think if she stays healthy, she can push 19 just to get past Evert and Nav.

And I say 19 not b/c I think she'll rack up slams like she's been doing(I think Henin and Clijsters will be a huge roadblock). But I think Serena will stick around longer than Henin and Clijsters and with that serve, she won't need to do much off the ground when she reaches her 30s.

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 04:46 AM
lol which also happens to be 4 of the last 6 slams. If she maintains that ratio, she'll have eight slams in the next 3 years...

i think she'll find a happy medium. i say 18!


She has won 1 of the last 1 slams.
If she maintains the ratio she'll have 12 slams in the next 3 years ...

bandabou
Feb 2nd, 2010, 06:15 AM
Who would've guessed that we would be having discussion after ' 06?! Kudos to Serena..for finding this new focus.

Serena's a huge thing going for her..she's flat out favorite at two/three of the majors ( Oz, Wimb, and the U.S. open) and pretty good contender at the 4th RG.

Barring injuries, she should be bagging at least a major for the next few years..and then it's all about milking the serve.

Caralenko
Feb 2nd, 2010, 06:19 AM
15.

Two more AOs and a Wimbledon :) Maybe more.

Sam L
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:11 AM
I think she wants 18. And I think she'll get it.

gc-spurs
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:15 AM
15.
She'll win another this year and either oz or RG next year before being sidelined with a terrible injury caused by something brutal and non-tenis related (e.g. car crash, a fight/attack). She won't return until 2012 where she announces she will only play the olympics and US Open before retiring. she will epically bomb in the olympic singles, but will find success in the doubles which will be a boost of confidence for her even though everyone else is doubting her. At the US open she will be given a Wild card and play a bunch of hard 3 setters making a dream run to the final where she will upset the world number 1 at that time for her final GS victory in front of her home crowd. **END CREDITS**

Raiden
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:57 AM
But I think Serena will stick around longer than Henin and ClijstersExactly! That is a real possibility.
and with that serve, she won't need to do much off the ground when she reaches her 30s.More importantly, Serena doesn't play as much WTA matches as her rivals and because of that they will likely get a burn out before she does.

And after all it was because of that 6-2, 6-0 trashing by Serena in Miami that made Henin retire in the first place. Henin can't stand being humiliated repeatedly. She had a history of choosing to quit rather than accept being defeted and playing second fiddle. One of the most important reason (if not THE reason) that she came back from retirement is directly because of fear that her Belgian rival Kim might start grabbing lots of grand slams like last year's us-open and that might threaten her records.

In other words if Kim reitred again and Serena refuses to retire, then Justin will (again).

bandabou
Feb 2nd, 2010, 08:04 AM
15.
She'll win another this year and either oz or RG next year before being sidelined with a terrible injury caused by something brutal and non-tenis related (e.g. car crash, a fight/attack). She won't return until 2012 where she announces she will only play the olympics and US Open before retiring. she will epically bomb in the olympic singles, but will find success in the doubles which will be a boost of confidence for her even though everyone else is doubting her. At the US open she will be given a Wild card and play a bunch of hard 3 setters making a dream run to the final where she will upset the world number 1 at that time for her final GS victory in front of her home crowd. **END CREDITS**

NOT funny!!:fiery:

dsanders06
Feb 2nd, 2010, 10:06 AM
But I think Serena will stick around longer than Henin and Clijsters and with that serve, she won't need to do much off the ground when she reaches her 30s.

They said that about Sampras too, and he could rely on his serve even more than Serena can. But when he hit 30, his results still fell off a cliff. More than anything else, even IF Serena's serve doesn't decline technically, the fact that it's only natural for champions to lose their nerve means that, in all probability Serena will start losing the important points before long even with a great serve.

Pops Maellard
Feb 2nd, 2010, 10:17 AM
I voted 17.

Pops Maellard
Feb 2nd, 2010, 10:19 AM
15.
She'll win another this year and either oz or RG next year before being sidelined with a terrible injury caused by something brutal and non-tenis related (e.g. car crash, a fight/attack). She won't return until 2012 where she announces she will only play the olympics and US Open before retiring. she will epically bomb in the olympic singles, but will find success in the doubles which will be a boost of confidence for her even though everyone else is doubting her. At the US open she will be given a Wild card and play a bunch of hard 3 setters making a dream run to the final where she will upset the world number 1 at that time for her final GS victory in front of her home crowd. **END CREDITS**
That sounds pretty cool in a way. :D Epic comeback at the 012 US Open, and then announces retirement. It'd be a not so bad way to go out, that's for sure. :D

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 2nd, 2010, 01:13 PM
12...she overachieved anyway

3 is overachieving

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:22 PM
Who knows? :shrug:

I tend to think it is completely up to Serena.

Having said that, I think she'll try for 20 + a gold medal in 2012. ...

Sharapova will try for that, too.

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:29 PM
Who would've guessed that we would be having discussion after ' 06?! ...


People are dumb.
In 2003 we had the discussion about Serena winning 25 slams.
In 2006 we had the discussion about Serena never winning a slam again.
Today we have the discussion about Serena winning 17 or more slams.

In 1996 we had the discussion about Graf winning 30 slams.
In 1998 we had the discussion about Hingis winning 20 slams.
In 2001 we had the discussion about Venus winning 15 slams.

In 2003 we had the discussion about Federer winning 3 slams.
In 2007 we had the discussion about Federer winning 20 slams.
In spring 2009 we had the discussion about Federer winning never winning a slam again.
Today we have the discussion about Federer winning more than 20 slams.

At the end of last year we had the discussion about Clijsters winning 5 or more additional slams.
Today we have the discussion about Clijsters never winning a slam again.
:lol:

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:33 PM
I'm guessing that Serena will be playing until she's 35.
Unlike the other players, she and her sister have chosen NOT TO BE burnt out.
...


Then why did they chose to be burnt out in the mid-00s?
Too much fashion designing ... ?;)

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:19 PM
i think we will have a better idea to the answer of this question come the end of the year. she is at the beginning of the teens. she could be in the mid teens by september and if thats the case then she'd really be pushing it to the greats!

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:25 PM
when people talk about tennis they talk about martina and evert...even tho steffi has more...idk why. so at the end of the day. i think serena is going for 18. that is her next goal. and it is very reachable. over the past two year she has won 5 slams....she plans on playing 2012 olympics...2 years from now...sooo yeah we will see!

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:26 PM
In tennis years, she's an old lady. :p

But to be fair to Serena, Navratilova did a lot of damage in the majors during her late 20's and early 30's. Certainly Serena has the ability to do similar if not better as long as she stays healthy.


At Serena's current age Navratilova had 11 slams. She won 7 more after that.
To suggest that an over-weight player like Serena could duplicate this is %$&/§ ....
:lol::help::wavey:

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:26 PM
oh and one more thing....i think it will be interesting because this will be the first time in her career serena has pressure. she may not show it but i think its in the back of her head. im interested in seeing if she will be able to handle it if she gets closer and closer to the greats and get the 18+ slams!

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:27 PM
I think if she stays healthy, she can push 19 just to get past Evert and Nav.

And I say 19 not b/c I think she'll rack up slams like she's been doing(I think Henin and Clijsters will be a huge roadblock). But I think Serena will stick around longer than Henin and Clijsters and with that serve, she won't need to do much off the ground when she reaches her 30s.


Er, how did she lose so many matches in 2004-2009?
Because "she didn't want to win"?
Or because her movie career ... ?:tape:

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:28 PM
oh and one more thing....i think it will be interesting because this will be the first time in her career serena has pressure. she may not show it but i think its in the back of her head. im interested in seeing if she will be able to handle it if she gets closer and closer to the greats and get the 18+ slams!



OMG ...
:haha::haha::haha:

G1Player2
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:32 PM
OMG ...
:haha::haha::haha:


You should be more worried about Henin, troll. There's a chance Serena might be able to reach 18 slams. Henin has no shot. :lol: Serena has almost double the amount of slams Henin has currently. :eek:

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:32 PM
when people talk about tennis they talk about martina and evert...even tho steffi has more...

You would be surprised - but the USA is not the world ...
:lol::tape::lol:

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:33 PM
OMG ...
:haha::haha::haha:

lol! thanks for sense of humor! sooo many times on this damn board people just try and bump heads! again, thanks! :worship:

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:34 PM
You should be more worried about Henin, troll. There's a chance Serena might be able to reach 18 slams. Henin has no shot. :lol: Serena has almost double the amount of slams Henin has currently. :eek:


Serena is 28 years old.
To suggest that she realistically might reach 18 slams is asinine.
That is fanboyism to the extreme.

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:34 PM
You would be surprised - but the USA is not the world ...
:lol::tape::lol:

lol so true! only part im confused is the "usa is not the world part"! this is so true! especially living in south africa. USA is the last thing in a conversation. weather it be sports music lol!

vml
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:34 PM
At Serena's current age Navratilova had 11 slams. She won 7 more after that.
To suggest that an over-weight player like Serena could duplicate this is %$&/§ ....
:lol::help::wavey:

Serena is not over-weight ! She used to be, i'm a serena fan and i'm not denying it but what you say is pure biased stuff, you don't like serena you think she not nearly as good as justine and it's your right even though it's :help: but at least try to be a litlle bit objective because the more i read your posts the more i start to think you'll be in the Matt's and LindsayFan's category which is the troll and serena haters category !

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:35 PM
lol! thanks for sense of humor! sooo many times on this damn board people just try and bump heads! again, thanks! :worship:


Which humor?

DontGetItTwisted
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:37 PM
Hard to tell.

Who could have guessed that the USO 2007 was Justine's latest slam to date?
Who could have guessed that the OZ 2008 was Maria's latest slam to date?

You never know what the future holds, even after epic performances with and glimpses of GOATNESS.

Imma just keep on enjoying the HBIC's win and cherish it like if it was the last one. Actually I don't wanna make any prediction, it's good as it is, anything more is just bonus.

youizahoe
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:38 PM
More than 20. Simply because Serena said she feels like she has 10 years of fuel left.

Also because she'll probably have 14 slams at the end of the year.

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:38 PM
Serena is not over-weight ! She used to be, i'm a serena fan and i'm not denying it but what you say is pure biased stuff, you don't like serena you think she not nearly as good as justine and it's your right even though it's :help: but at least try to be a litlle bit objective because the more i read your posts the more i start to think you'll be in the Matt's and LindsayFan's category which is the troll and serena haters category !


I respect Serena and he talent extremely.
To win 12 slams (4 in the last 18 months) while being clearly fat most of the time shows her unique talent. :worship:

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:39 PM
Serena is 28 years old.
To suggest that she realistically might reach 18 slams is asinine.
That is fanboyism to the extreme.

shhhh they may come running in and mention that martina navratilova was 24 when she "burned out" blah blah blah and won her last slam. and at 28 serena has won over 5 since being 24...u know their tricky here! lol!

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:40 PM
Hard to tell.

Who could have guessed that the USO 2007 was Justine's latest slam to date?
Who could have guessed that the OZ 2008 was Maria's latest slam to date?

You never know what the future holds, even after epic performances with and glimpses of GOATNESS.

Imma just keep on enjoying the HBIC's win and cherish it like if it was the last one. Actually I don't wanna make any prediction, it's good as it is, anything more is just bonus.


At last the voice of reason in a thread dominated by idiots ...
:worship:

youizahoe
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:40 PM
I respect Serena and he talent extremely.
To win 12 slams (4 in the last 18 months) while being clearly fat most of the time shows her unique talent. :worship:

I bet that Serena ain't half as fat as you are. You are probably jealous of her, it obviously shines through.

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:40 PM
Which humor?

the OMG AND ROFL'S LOL!

vml
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:40 PM
I respect Serena and he talent extremely.
To win 12 slams (4 in the last 18 months) while being clearly fat most of the time shows her unique talent. :worship:

dscho99, thanks you so much :worship: ! You sell dream :hearts::hearts::hearts:
Try again dude :tape:

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:41 PM
More than 20. Simply because Serena said she feels like she has 10 years of fuel left.

Also because she'll probably have 14 slams at the end of the year.


Er, what was your forecast for Serena in 2003?
45 slams ... ?
:lol::lol::lol:

G1Player2
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:41 PM
Serena is 28 years old.
To suggest that she realistically might reach 18 slams is asinine.
That is fanboyism to the extreme.

I always said she'd win 16 slams so 18 is not too far off. Alot of this depends on Venus at Wimbledon too and how she performs. But, like I said, you should be more concerned about Henin's performances in the slams. :eek: Besides, Serena said she isn't retiring before 33. Things can obviously change, but winning 6 more slams, especially if Venus doesn't perform well at Wimbledon, isn't completely out of the question.

vml
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:42 PM
At last the voice of reason in a thread dominated by idiots ...
:worship:

... like you ? I'm wondering, let me think ya definitely LIKE YOU :help:

SerenaSlam
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:42 PM
Hard to tell.

Who could have guessed that the USO 2007 was Justine's latest slam to date?
Who could have guessed that the OZ 2008 was Maria's latest slam to date?

You never know what the future holds, even after epic performances with and glimpses of GOATNESS.

Imma just keep on enjoying the HBIC's win and cherish it like if it was the last one. Actually I don't wanna make any prediction, it's good as it is, anything more is just bonus.

THIS IS SO TRUE...good example. serena's uopen wins. 2002 then 2008. wimbledon...2003 then 2009...who woulda guessed it? so you can't put it past her but just don't give it to her. she will have to earn it and only time will tell....aka guessing games are just back and forth drama!

vml
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:43 PM
I always said she'd win 16 slams so 18 is not too far off. Alot of this depends on Venus at Wimbledon too and how she performs. But, like I said, you should be more concerned about Henin's performances in the slams. :eek: Besides, Serena said she isn't retiring before 33. Things can obviously change, but winning 6 more slams, especially if Venus doesn't perform well at Wimbledon, isn't completely out of the question.

This.

G1Player2
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:44 PM
Er, what was your forecast for Serena in 2003?
45 slams ... ?
:lol::lol::lol:

Serena had a very almost career threatening knee surgery in 2003 while she was the undisputed #1. To suggest she'd win 20 slams at that time wasn't really all that of a gross exaggeration before that surgery. She was never the same again after that surgery.

youizahoe
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:45 PM
Er, what was your forecast for Serena in 2003?
45 slams ... ?
:lol::lol::lol:

I wasn't on the board by then, so I didn't make any assumptions, I just watched it happen.

Though I said, last year, that Serena would pass BJK in 2010. Not so far from it, aren't I?

Anyway, can you please stop behaving like someone from elementary school???

dscho99
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:46 PM
... like you ? I'm wondering, let me think ya definitely LIKE YOU :help:


You think I'm dominating this thread?

Thanks!!!:kiss:

vml
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:55 PM
You think I'm dominating this thread?

Thanks!!!:kiss:

Yes by your dumbness which is not supposed to be flattering some dominate in good ways and some dominate in pathetic, biased, useless and dumb ways so which kind of domination you wanna be part of the first or the second one b/c if you wanna be part of the first one you should try to do better and smarter :wavey:

doni1212
Feb 2nd, 2010, 11:17 PM
I'm not making a prediction. I don't want to jinx my guess, :yeah:

Brooks.
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:21 AM
I feel like she has a least 2 more Wimbledons in her. And definitely at least 1 more US Open and 1 more Aussie Open.

Another French would be amazing.

But at least 16 I would say.

DA FOREHAND
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:42 AM
i voted 13 more

sorceress
Feb 3rd, 2010, 05:06 AM
I think this is a difficult thing, I think she's going to win at least 3 more more.
So I'll say 15.

AcesHigh really does have a good point about the Belgians retired before her, which I agree with, but I think because Serena has been at the top of the WTA with such a stranglehold that the new generation will develop into much tougher competition.
She'll win another this year, Wimbledon or USO but I think the next 18 months will be interesting as she'll start to wind down while others start firing up.

Six Feet Under
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:09 AM
12 or 13, the belgians are barely in full force but have managed to win a slam and make a final. Slams for Rena will now be a much harder task.

bandabou
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:22 AM
Er, what was your forecast for Serena in 2003?
45 slams ... ?
:lol::lol::lol:

Hi Cali...guys, Calimero's back! :lol:

bandabou
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:26 AM
I don't really think that the Belgians coming back will be that much of a factor.

Serena's best majors are majors were the Belgians aren't much of a factor anyways: Oz and Wimbledon..so it's more a question of health and fitness.

youizahoe
Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:42 AM
12 or 13, the belgians are barely in full force but have managed to win a slam and make a final. Slams for Rena will now be a much harder task.

I actually don't think it will make it harder for Serena at the slams.

Raiden
Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:58 AM
when people talk about tennis they talk about martina and evert...even tho steffi has more...idk why.Cuz Steffi wasn't a yank - that's why

Julian.
Jul 1st, 2010, 05:38 PM
Title #13 coming this saturday :bowdown:

bandabou
Jul 1st, 2010, 05:42 PM
If she hits 13 this saturday, then things get really really interesting!!

Stamp Paid
Jul 1st, 2010, 05:44 PM
All these banned people ITT :lol:

mboyle
Jul 1st, 2010, 06:00 PM
12 or 13, the belgians are barely in full force but have managed to win a slam and make a final. Slams for Rena will now be a much harder task.
Serena also has a pretty darn good record against them. Also, Clijsters lost to Zvonareva and Petrova at her last two majors (including Oz, where everyone, including me, expected her to win or at least challenge for the title). Henin lost to Stosur at Paris. Both have some pretty shocking losses, suggesting that their consistency is not what it used to be.
The only potential threat is if Maria gets her act together and sustains her Oz 2008 form, but at this point, the odds of that happening seem pretty slim, and even at her best, Maria would be lucky to get 50/50 odds against Serena. Other than Sharapova, I have seen nothing in anyone born after 1984 that suggests even the capacity to take it to Serena and beat her when she's playing her B game.
Of course, Serena is also going to turn 29 in September. She is a genetic wonderkid, but I would still be surprised if she could dominate for more than two years. You can see it in Venus even now. Venus is still super athletic, but she doesn't run like she used to. Look at tape from 2000. She was hands down the fastest player on tour. She's still a capable mover, but I don't hear people talking about her as the fastest anymore. Of course, Venus relied on her speed more than Serena did, because she doesn't do as good a job as Serena at protecting her second serve, but the point is the same: at some point around age 29, the body starts breaking down. Remember that the average age of grand slam winners historically has been 21. Not first time slam winners, all slam winners. Make no mistake: this is a young person's game.

Serena of course benefits from the fact that the current crop of youngsters are basically uncreative, less talented versions of herself. They further demonstrate their complete lack of consistency in the fact that, to my knowledge, the only person born after 1987 who has finished in the top ten for two consecutive seasons is Vaidisova, who is now retired. Vaidisova is also, to my knowledge, the only player born after 1987 to have recorded multiple slam semi-final appearances.
Make no mistake: the picture for tennis's future is pretty bleak right now, but that makes it all the brighter for Serena in her sunset years. Right now, at an intensity level far below that of her peak, she's winning over 60% of majors contested. I think she can win at least 50% of the majors before her 30th birthday. That would bring her total to 17. I think she will end up with between 16 and 20.

bandabou
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:25 PM
Good points mboyle. I think Serena has two more years as this level. Although her game is different than Venus's. Vee's all about running and movement. Serena's more methodical..built around her serve, greatest shot since Steffi's forehand,. So I think she can last longer at this level...

Should be interesting to see next years. Seems like the Oz open and Wimbledon have become her prefred hunting territory.

volta
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:27 PM
All these banned people ITT :lol:

i was thinking the same thing :haha:

SoClose
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:29 PM
More than 20 ;)

Julian.
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:43 PM
All these banned people ITT :lol:

I just realized that this thread is full of their posts :rolls:

Bijoux0021
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:44 PM
25

*Jool*
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:46 PM
< 17-20 >

could be more (I voted 17)

Vulturepova
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:46 PM
15 just sticks out to me.

I hope she can maybe even take more though. She's good for the sport.

Inger67
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:51 PM
Probably 16-19 is my guess. I could see Wimbledon '10, AO '11, USO '11 and a few others along the way too

noamgdi
Jul 1st, 2010, 07:55 PM
More than 20
At least that's what I want...

DOUBLEFIST
Jul 1st, 2010, 09:04 PM
18

Craig.
Jul 1st, 2010, 09:14 PM
17.

Veronique
Jul 1st, 2010, 09:23 PM
She's aiming for 18 right now. 1x she reaches it, then she can assess how far more she can go.

Deck
Jul 1st, 2010, 09:41 PM
How many? Too many!

Gdsimmons
Jul 1st, 2010, 09:51 PM
Im thinking somewhere between 15 and 20

CanIGetAWhat
Jun 9th, 2013, 06:05 AM
12...she overachieved anyway

I think some people are being a bit optimistic about how long Serena can keep going. It's only natural for players to go in decline when 30 approaches. Suddenly some new doubts creep in, and all of a sudden the surprise losses start mounting. You only have to look at the sudden drop-off in Mauresmo's results between 2006 and 2007 to see that, and arguably it might be starting to happen to Venus. Plus, there's also the fact it's natural for athletes to get more injury-prone when they get to that age. Look at Graf... she managed to keep herself relatively injury-free for most of her career (she never had any really long lay-offs for most of her career anyway), but when she got to about 28, her body pretty much crumbled.

I give Serena two more years of being one of the top players. After that point, although she may have a shock Sampras/Graf-style swansong Slam win, I don't think she'll be able to keep up at this level anymore.

15.
She'll win another this year and either oz or RG next year before being sidelined with a terrible injury caused by something brutal and non-tenis related (e.g. car crash, a fight/attack). She won't return until 2012 where she announces she will only play the olympics and US Open before retiring. she will epically bomb in the olympic singles, but will find success in the doubles which will be a boost of confidence for her even though everyone else is doubting her. At the US open she will be given a Wild card and play a bunch of hard 3 setters making a dream run to the final where she will upset the world number 1 at that time for her final GS victory in front of her home crowd. **END CREDITS**

12 or 13, the belgians are barely in full force but have managed to win a slam and make a final. Slams for Rena will now be a much harder task.

How many? Too many!

http://i39.tinypic.com/hs7xhs.gif

MrSerenaWilliams
Jun 11th, 2013, 03:51 PM
I think 4 more in the next 3.5 seasons is doable, which will give her 20+

clutchplay
Jun 11th, 2013, 03:57 PM
yes i think she'll match graf's number. 2 more wimbledons and 2 more of either the ao or the uso seems very doable. she'll most likely win two more this year, and even if 2014 is her last in-form year, she'll still nab wibmledon and the uso easily. if she does a serena slam 2.0, she'll win the ao too so that's 22 right there. very doable

HRHoliviasmith
Jun 11th, 2013, 04:03 PM
i predict 21. i hope for more though.

HRHoliviasmith
Jun 11th, 2013, 04:04 PM
15 just sticks out to me.

I hope she can maybe even take more though. She's good for the sport.

:awww:

iWill
Jun 11th, 2013, 04:23 PM
15.
She'll win another this year and either oz or RG next year before being sidelined with a terrible injury caused by something brutal and non-tenis related (e.g. car crash, a fight/attack). She won't return until 2012 where she announces she will only play the olympics and US Open before retiring. she will epically bomb in the olympic singles, but will find success in the doubles which will be a boost of confidence for her even though everyone else is doubting her. At the US open she will be given a Wild card and play a bunch of hard 3 setters making a dream run to the final where she will upset the world number 1 at that time for her final GS victory in front of her home crowd. **END CREDITS**
:spit:
I think some people are being a bit optimistic about how long Serena can keep going. It's only natural for players to go in decline when 30 approaches. Suddenly some new doubts creep in, and all of a sudden the surprise losses start mounting. You only have to look at the sudden drop-off in Mauresmo's results between 2006 and 2007 to see that, and arguably it might be starting to happen to Venus. Plus, there's also the fact it's natural for athletes to get more injury-prone when they get to that age. Look at Graf... she managed to keep herself relatively injury-free for most of her career (she never had any really long lay-offs for most of her career anyway), but when she got to about 28, her body pretty much crumbled.

I give Serena two more years of being one of the top players. After that point, although she may have a shock Sampras/Graf-style swansong Slam win, I don't think she'll be able to keep up at this level anymore.

DSanders can never show his face here again. :happy: :wavey: