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moby
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Discuss.

(I was thinking of including female players only, so "Battle of the Sexes" is sort of a category fraud... but it did involve a female player.
If you pick that one, post a match-up between two female tennis players.

E.g. 2004 Guangzhou final - Li vs Sucha - First WTA title for the Golden Flowers
or 2008 Olympics final - Demented vs Sanowa - who will win a title that actually matters?)

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P.S. This entry is wrong "1988 USO final - Graf vs Sabatini (going for the Golden Slam)"
The Olympics were held after the USO, so Steffi was only completing the calendar slam by winning this match.

-jenks-
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:34 PM
Serena vs. Henin 2010 AO Open final... I have a feeling it will be one-sided.

AcesHigh
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:39 PM
Most hyped? No.

Most overhyped? Possibly. For some reason, I'm very certain this will be a straightset win by Serena and it won't be pretty.

However, hope I'm wrong.

Donny
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:42 PM
Most hyped? No.

Most overhyped? Possibly. For some reason, I'm very certain this will be a straightset win by Serena and it won't be pretty.

However, hope I'm wrong.

Depends on Serena's first serve percentage. Henin's been struggling to return big first serves the entire fortnight. SHould Serena's % drop into the low-mid 50's, then it'll be a close match I predict.

With that said, this match isn't that hyped at all to me. If this were ANY other major than the AO it would be, but at least in the US, no one seems to care, especially since it's not going to be on network TV.

miffedmax
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:51 PM
Well, contrary to popular belief, I wasn't actually around for the Lenglen/Wills match up.

But the whole King/Riggs match was so much bigger than the sport itself...it really did somehow become a referendum on the whole women's rights movement, the relative success of which is why his earlier dismantling of Margaret Court is pretty much forgotten. It was a symbolic moment, a carnival sideshow that did, in a very real and tangible way, crystalize and symbolize the very real events of the slow progression of women's rights over much of the first half of the century. Rightly or wrongly, it transcended the world of tennis, even the world of sports, in a way none of the other matches listed ever could. I mean I remember to listen to the way some people on both sides of the issue talked if Riggs won, women were going to have to quit their jobs and give up their right to vote. It was crazy in a way only the overheated rhetoric of the '60s could have been.

AcesHigh
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:51 PM
Depends on Serena's first serve percentage. Henin's been struggling to return big first serves the entire fortnight. SHould Serena's % drop into the low-mid 50's, then it'll be a close match I predict.

With that said, this match isn't that hyped at all to me. If this were ANY other major than the AO it would be, but at least in the US, no one seems to care, especially since it's not going to be on network TV.

I agree. No one in the US seems to be talking about it.. but there is a lot going on with other sports. NBA all-star game, NFL playoffs, probowl, College basketball, college football, etc.

Even if Serena is struggling with serve % though her second serve is extremely formidable and Henin has been struggling with all parts of her game. Watching her, you can tell she's back mentally but she's still in the midst of trying to retool her game.. and the serve especially has been really off. Can Henin pull it together for the final? Of course, but I think the only reliable part of either player's game is that Serena's serve and return will be extremely difficult to counter and that alone is enough for me to think it will be a straights set win.

I hope I'm wrong though.

AcesHigh
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:52 PM
And I think once you put this match next to those others in the poll, I dont think it can compare really.
We're just so excited as tennis fantatics to finally have a final that MIGHT be really good.

hankqq
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:56 PM
BJK vs. Riggs for sure :lol: everyone at the time, even if they didn't follow tennis, knew about this match.

and the others have all been hyped up too. Another I would add to the list is 1995 USO final Graf vs. the returning Seles, who was destroying opponents left and right. She won the Canadian Open in her 1st tournament back and didn't lose a set until her 3 set loss to Graf in the USO final.

moby
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:59 PM
Well, contrary to popular belief, I wasn't actually around for the Lenglen/Wills match up.

But the whole King/Riggs match was so much bigger than the sport itself...it really did somehow become a referendum on the whole women's rights movement, the relative success of which is why his earlier dismantling of Margaret Court is pretty much forgotten.Why wasn't there as much hype for the match with Court?

The Dawntreader
Jan 29th, 2010, 10:13 PM
Why wasn't there as much hype for the match with Court?

Court wasn't at all part of the WTA feminist movement in the early 70's. She said something along the lines of 'i'm quite happy to let my husband wear the trousers'.

King was playing for something bigger than herself.

Paul.be
Jan 29th, 2010, 10:17 PM
Well, contrary to popular belief, I wasn't actually around for the Lenglen/Wills match up.

But the whole King/Riggs match was so much bigger than the sport itself...it really did somehow become a referendum on the whole women's rights movement, the relative success of which is why his earlier dismantling of Margaret Court is pretty much forgotten. It was a symbolic moment, a carnival sideshow that did, in a very real and tangible way, crystalize and symbolize the very real events of the slow progression of women's rights over much of the first half of the century. Rightly or wrongly, it transcended the world of tennis, even the world of sports, in a way none of the other matches listed ever could. I mean I remember to listen to the way some people on both sides of the issue talked if Riggs won, women were going to have to quit their jobs and give up their right to vote. It was crazy in a way only the overheated rhetoric of the '60s could have been.
My goodness, you practically wrote a complete article without mentioning "The Demented One" even once. :eek:

LightWarrior
Jan 29th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Evert and Navratilova met 80 times (hard to believe), mostly in the finals. So after a while you can't say that it's hyped, people get used to it.

shap_half
Jan 29th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Tonight is exciting for sure, but there's really nothing to contextualize it. So hopefully they both produce top tennis with justine winning. :)

KBdoubleu
Jan 29th, 2010, 10:22 PM
I'm only old enough to remember two of the options, but that first USO final between Venus and Serena was really hyped up. It was the first time the women's final was held in prime time. I remember everyone in my school was talking about it. However (especially for a New Yorker like myself), a lot of it was overshadowed by September 11th, which happened just days later.

LightWarrior
Jan 29th, 2010, 10:26 PM
Another I would add to the list is 1995 USO final Graf vs. the returning Seles, who was destroying opponents left and right. She won the Canadian Open in her 1st tournament back and didn't lose a set until her 3 set loss to Graf in the USO final.

You're absolutely right. That Seles/Graf match was the most anticipated match ever from what I remember - well ahead the Serena/Henin match.

moby
Jan 29th, 2010, 10:28 PM
You're absolutely right. That Seles/Graf match was the most anticipated match ever from what I remember - well ahead the Serena/Henin match.Totally left out that one. :o

dsanders06
Jan 29th, 2010, 11:15 PM
I think this is the most hyped women's match I can recall since I became a fan 5 years ago. With that said, it doesn't seem to be getting that much hype in the wider world... there isn't that much coverage of it here in the UK atleast, although, in fairness, that might be partly because it's competing with Murray's success.

MrSerenaWilliams
Jan 29th, 2010, 11:39 PM
Court wasn't at all part of the WTA feminist movement in the early 70's. She said something along the lines of 'i'm quite happy to let my husband wear the trousers'.

King was playing for something bigger than herself.

THIS.

King is a LEGEND.

But I agree that if this were a US Open/Wimbledon final there would be MUCH more press.

Imagine if they met in all 4 majors this year....

edificio
Jan 30th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Gotta be BJK and Bobby Riggs. He was an old man. It was a stupid spectacle.

LightWarrior
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:02 AM
Gotta be BJK and Bobby Riggs. He was an old man. It was a stupid spectacle.

Wasn't there a Connors/Navratilova match as in the '80s ?

edificio
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:03 AM
I don't know. If so, I missed it.

PlayByPlay
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:27 AM
Williams vs Henin 2010 every body has anticipations about this match.

it-girl
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:46 AM
There is nothing over hyped about the 2001 all Williams final. That was a historical moment. 2 siters doing somehting that had not been done before. How can history in the making be over hyped. Only a troll would think that match is over hyped. I will tell you what I think is over hyped. Any match featuring Henin & Kuznetsova because Henin beats her pretty much every, single time. How can you even feel comfortable advertising for that match. Like the 2008 US Open final with Henin vs Kuznetsova & guess who won again.

LDVTennis
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:46 AM
Even if Serena is struggling with serve % though her second serve is extremely formidable and Henin has been struggling with all parts of her game. Watching her, you can tell she's back mentally but she's still in the midst of trying to retool her game.. and the serve especially has been really off. Can Henin pull it together for the final? Of course, but I think the only reliable part of either player's game is that Serena's serve and return will be extremely difficult to counter and that alone is enough for me to think it will be a straights set win.


It has become a very practical proposition to move Serena side to side on baseline rallies. Henin will make Serena move. Henin will win.

RJWCapriati
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:56 AM
2001 U.S. Open - The hype was well deserved for such an occasion though.

sorceress
Jan 30th, 2010, 02:05 AM
It has become a very practical proposition to move Serena side to side on baseline rallies. Henin will make Serena move. Henin will win.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, both have quite obvious weaknesses to exploit and I think it's just a matter of who can keep their game solid while exploiting the others'.
I think it'll be close, regardless.

In terms of the poll, however, since I've been a fan it probably is, but I know the all Williams' match was highly anticipated as well.

LightWarrior
Jan 30th, 2010, 02:29 AM
Yeah that's what I was thinking, both have quite obvious weaknesses to exploit and I think it's just a matter of who can keep their game solid while exploiting the others'.
I think it'll be close, regardless.

In terms of the poll, however, since I've been a fan it probably is, but I know the all Williams' match was highly anticipated as well.

As long as she can ace Henin, Serena will be fine.
Hold !

Ingokoer
Jan 30th, 2010, 09:24 AM
this is the most competitive grand slam final I have seen for years. I think that is a final we have been waiting for. All the slam finals in the last 2 years were horribly one-sided. finally a grand slam final which satifies all the spectators in the stadium and in front of the TV. :bounce:

That is what the WTA Tour has needed.

Uranium
Jan 30th, 2010, 09:25 AM
2008 Wimbledon and 2008 US Open were both competitive. Just because it doesn't go 3 sets, doesn't mean they weren't competitive.

Dave.
Jan 30th, 2010, 09:27 AM
First 3 setter since Wimbledon 2006, also including Henin.

Uranium is right though.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 30th, 2010, 09:32 AM
I guess the other were fakes

Donny
Jan 30th, 2010, 09:49 AM
It has become a very practical proposition to move Serena side to side on baseline rallies. Henin will make Serena move. Henin will win.

Nice prediction Nostradamus.

mdterp01
Feb 1st, 2010, 01:53 AM
It has become a very practical proposition to move Serena side to side on baseline rallies. Henin will make Serena move. Henin will win.

:rolls: :wavey:

Donny
Feb 1st, 2010, 02:03 AM
:rolls: :wavey:

LDV's been absent ever since the final. I'm afraid he might have committed suicide after Serena broke Steffi's AO record.

mdterp01
Feb 1st, 2010, 02:11 AM
LDV's been absent ever since the final. I'm afraid he might have committed suicide after Serena broke Steffi's AO record.

I think there's a lot of people on suicide watch after that match. I think the results of the semifinals rope-a-doped a lot of Henin fans into thinking that she was going to quickly dispatch of Serena, particularly given the commentators talk of the doubles and her strappings.

sorceress
Feb 1st, 2010, 02:16 AM
I think there's a lot of people on suicide watch after that match. I think the results of the semifinals rope-a-doped a lot of Henin fans into thinking that she was going to quickly dispatch of Serena, particularly given the commentators talk of the doubles and her strappings.

Mmm well that's silly.
Serena was the well deserved favourite and a win by Justine would have definitely been an upset.
It's clear that Justine is still tweaking her game very much so and I doubt she thought she would even have made it past the quarters.

Denise4925
Feb 4th, 2010, 05:36 PM
It has become a very practical proposition to move Serena side to side on baseline rallies. Henin will make Serena move. Henin will win.

:haha:

Denise4925
Feb 4th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Well, contrary to popular belief, I wasn't actually around for the Lenglen/Wills match up.

But the whole King/Riggs match was so much bigger than the sport itself...it really did somehow become a referendum on the whole women's rights movement, the relative success of which is why his earlier dismantling of Margaret Court is pretty much forgotten. It was a symbolic moment, a carnival sideshow that did, in a very real and tangible way, crystalize and symbolize the very real events of the slow progression of women's rights over much of the first half of the century. Rightly or wrongly, it transcended the world of tennis, even the world of sports, in a way none of the other matches listed ever could. I mean I remember to listen to the way some people on both sides of the issue talked if Riggs won, women were going to have to quit their jobs and give up their right to vote. It was crazy in a way only the overheated rhetoric of the '60s could have been.

:worship: Totally agree here. As a little girl, I thought this was do or die for women. This is when BJK became my hero. Everyone watched this match. Not just tennis fans. I was so glad my dad was for BJK. So proud of him. :)

Just one correction, it was in the '70s.

BuTtErFrEnA
Feb 4th, 2010, 05:44 PM
so am i the only one here too young to have even watched those players :sobbing:

Olórin
Feb 4th, 2010, 06:15 PM
It has become a very practical proposition to move Serena side to side on baseline rallies. Henin will make Serena move. Henin will win.

You know what this proves don't you? For all your technical waffle - you know JACK SHIT.

Olórin
Feb 4th, 2010, 06:18 PM
2008 Wimbledon and 2008 US Open were both competitive. Just because it doesn't go 3 sets, doesn't mean they weren't competitive.

THIS. Those finals were more competitive and interesting than any GS final in 2007 or indeed any GS final in 2006 bar the Wimbledon one.

2Black
Feb 4th, 2010, 06:37 PM
I would agree with the whole 2001 Williams' match as most hyped. I can't speak to the BJK battle of the sexes match.

Another HYPED match even in the US was the 2001 semifinal between Venus & Capriati. It was being billed on CBS as the match to decide the best in Women's Tennis. America's darling had won the Aussie & the French and Venus had just taken Wimbledon after Capriati's shocking semifinal lost to Justine. But at the US Open, they would not be denied, as they both marched to the semifinals. The atmosphere at Ashe was electric and then...

Lulu.
Feb 4th, 2010, 07:14 PM
US Open 2001.