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youizahoe
Jan 28th, 2010, 10:30 PM
This forum will be empty :sobbing:

& who will replace the divas?

:lol:

Ferg
Jan 28th, 2010, 10:30 PM
Then the Golden Flower Age shall begin.

danieln1
Jan 28th, 2010, 10:42 PM
Don´t even talk about, it will be a lot less fun coming here...

Brooklyn90
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:05 PM
It will be all Russian and Chinese women at the top :sad:

mdterp01
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:12 PM
Yup...as much as the fan bases rag on each other, we are all family and it will truly be the end of an incredible era of 3 great champions.

shap_half
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Wozniacki's fans can be a bit wonky, Ana's fans, Maria's fans? Wickmayer is also starting to develop some hating...so all is not lost, folks. start loving some of these girls now.

Vartan
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:45 PM
Maria?

Stamp Paid
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:48 PM
I tagged Maria three years ago for this exact reason.
But at her current rate, I dunno :sobbing:

Ellery
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:48 PM
Then the Golden Flower Age shall begin.

:bowdown:

Vlover
Jan 28th, 2010, 11:58 PM
This forum will be empty :sobbing:
Well Justine did and most of us were still here so I think this will be true for the Sisters.:devil:

trufanjay
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:01 AM
Yup...as much as the fan bases rag on each other, we are all family and it will truly be the end of an incredible era of 3 great champions.
Well said. I am a die hard Williams fan but I LOVE when they play great champions such as Justine. I don't even want to think about them retiring, lets all hope that we have a few more years left to argue with each other over these three :lol:

And the Sharapova fans were on a roll until Maria started losing....I had to throw that in there :)

Martian KC
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:05 AM
I think we still got a good 4 years left.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:16 AM
There are at least 5 more popular players than Henin and Venus on tennisforum :shrug:

Martian KC
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:24 AM
More popular maybe, but not as talked about as Justine and Venus.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:33 AM
Both together don´t match Woznniacki or a JaJa with good results

sorceress
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:41 AM
I can see Wickmayer becoming the next generation's dominant player and going on a powertrip thus her fans acting accordingly!

RenaSlam.
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:53 AM
Once the Williamses are gone, there will be no reason for me to watch women's tennis anymore.

Serenita
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:55 AM
:sad: well:sad::sad:


that said tennis will go on!:)
maybe Larcher de Brito will save temnis. :o

AnomyBC
Jan 29th, 2010, 12:58 AM
I think it will be OK. People will still need to come here to complain about Caro being a pusher :)

moon
Jan 29th, 2010, 01:02 AM
The Williamses are the most exciting thing to happen to tennis in DECADES. It will be a dark day when they are gone. :sad:
kinda shocking to think that they are closer to the end than at the beginning.

PlayByPlay
Jan 29th, 2010, 01:09 AM
Well I am so not looking forward to it. I am just enjoying those three while I can.

gmokb
Jan 29th, 2010, 01:17 AM
Once the Williamses are gone, there will be no reason for me to watch women's tennis anymore.

Same here. Its going to be a great loss, especially I think both will go at the same time:sad:

Becool
Jan 29th, 2010, 02:36 AM
the day the chinese players become the top things in tennis, the sport will lose so much..

Dandy_Warhol
Jan 29th, 2010, 02:42 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2la7rm8.jpg

i don't want to think about it for now :hysteric:

LoveFifteen
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:11 AM
It will be a massive loss when the Williams and Justine retire. :sad:

That being said, I encourage you guys to find a love for tennis outside of your faves so that you can go on loving the sport even when they retire at age 22 or get banned for cocaine. :sobbing:

but seriosuly, it's good to love the sport beyond your fave, right?

HRHoliviasmith
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:23 AM
GM will become the official Siberian Siren Player's Forum. :scared:

WowWow
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:32 AM
GM will become the official Siberian Siren Player's Forum. :scared:

We fans, are very humble at the moment :sobbing:

SharapovaFTW
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:33 AM
The Williamses are the most exciting thing to happen to tennis in DECADES. It will be a dark day when they are gone. :sad:
kinda shocking to think that they are closer to the end than at the beginning.

You mean women's tennis correct? You aren't lumping men's tennis in with that one I hope.

Regardless the game will go on just like any other sport and a great one in due time will emerge. In the NBA there was Larry & Magic, then Michael Jordan, now Kobe & Lebron. In the NFL there was Unitas, then Montana & Marino, & now Peyton Manning. In golf Palmer, then Nicklaus, & now Tiger. Wash, rinse, & repeat. When an old star fades a new one will be born. There will always be the age old debate of who is better than who, when in reality comparing generations and eras is nearly impossible. Still doesn't change the fact women's tennis won't die when these players are gone.

Roookie
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:36 AM
Yup...as much as the fan bases rag on each other, we are all family and it will truly be the end of an incredible era of 3 great champions.

:sobbing:

DragonFlame
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:42 AM
I've just got justine back, so i really don't wanna think about retirement already again. :lol:

Seriously though, if you really like tennis you'll get by somehow. The last 2 years have been 'tough' on the one hand but it hasn't stopped me from following it. You'll find something in other players you hadn't really considered before. There will be a gap in your feelings but those players can make up for a small part.

So if it's about favourites i think it will solve itself.

Quality on the other hand, remains to be seen. Who will be the first one that can win multiple slams once those 3 are gone? Will there be someone who'll take the lead? Obviously quality has been a miss in the last 2 years, at least to me.
But without ALL the greats, there must be someone who'll be consistantly greater then the others right?

miffedmax
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:43 AM
:shrug: Dementieva will either retire too, or lose to someone else.

Also, my fanatical backing of the newly dominant Alex Glatch will be so incredibly obnoxious as to make us the most unpopular people on this forum.

Nicolás89
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:44 AM
Clijsters is going to win all slams she enters to until she retires when at 7 months pregnant the day after winning her 4th Us Open, Kuznetsova is going to win Wimbledon, Safina will make 10 slams final winning 1, Sharapova is going to rule the clay season and Jankovic will set a record for more weeks at number one.

ZeroSOFInfinity
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:44 AM
There are at least 5 more popular players than Henin and Venus on tennisforum :shrug:

Let me guess... Serena, Dementieva, Ana, Jelena and Jie.

Tell me I am correct.... :angel:

DragonFlame
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:53 AM
Clijsters is going to win all slams she enters to until she retires when at 7 months pregnant the day after winning her 4th Us Open, Kuznetsova is going to win Wimbledon, Safina will make 10 slams final winning 1, Sharapova is going to rule the clay season and Jankovic will set a record for more weeks at number one.

Unfortunatly for safina, jankovic and the likes i doubt that will happen. When those greats retired the younger generation: Lisicki, Azarenka, Wozniacki etc. will have come of age and have surpassed them.

Outside of maria there's been a gap from the 21-25 aged players who're in my oppinion NOT destined to be greats. Somehow they just don't have what it takes.

I am confident the 17-21 age group will offer us much greater champions then the 21-25 aged group.

miffedmax
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:55 AM
Duh. Glatch is 20.

youizahoe
Jan 29th, 2010, 03:57 AM
I don't think the youngsters will be dominating at the slams, they all miss stuff that could turn them into champions.

DragonFlame
Jan 29th, 2010, 04:03 AM
I don't think the youngsters will be dominating at the slams, they all miss stuff that could turn them into champions.

Without serena,justine,venus, kim who'll be there to stop a 23-24 year old more experienced azarenka?

Safina, Jankovic, Kuznetsova? :spit: Only a fit maria or some other 17-21 year olds we haven't heard about yet comes to mind, but didn't Maria say she wanted to retire pretty early?

Nicolás89
Jan 29th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Without serena,justine,venus, kim who'll be there to stop a 23-24 year old more experienced azarenka?

Safina, Jankovic, Kuznetsova? :spit: Only a fit maria or some other 17-21 year olds we haven't heard about yet comes to mind, but didn't Maria say she wanted to retire pretty early?

I think you're forgetting Kuznetsova has 2 slams only 1 less than Sharapova.

DragonFlame
Jan 29th, 2010, 04:16 AM
I think you're forgetting Kuznetsova has 2 slams only 1 less than Sharapova.

Kuznetsova remains a headcase that needs the perfect conditions to be able to win slams. She's won 2 with a 5-year gap and wil already be 27-28 once the 4 mentioned retire... I doubt she'll be able to change the mental aspects that late in her career.

Still, it remains to be seen how many grandslams kuznetsova will win in her career. To me she's someone who could win 4, like aranxta-sanchez. I don't think she can make it to an all-time great.

Besides that, she's been losing to youngsters in slams already. I really think she will cave to players who're mentally more fortitude. And i'm sure there will be a youngster that will show up with that quality, or someone from the 17-21 generation that grows into it.

DemWilliamsGulls
Jan 29th, 2010, 04:32 AM
I will retire from watching tennis when The Williams Sisters retire...honest to god truth...just like I did when Michelle Kwan stopped skating as much. THe Williams Sisters are the ONLY reason I watch tennis.

Nicolás89
Jan 29th, 2010, 04:32 AM
Kuznetsova remains a headcase that needs the perfect conditions to be able to win slams. She's won 2 with a 5-year gap and wil already be 27-28 once the 4 mentioned retire... I doubt she'll be able to change the mental aspects that late in her career.

Still, it remains to be seen how many grandslams kuznetsova will win in her career. To me she's someone who could win 4, like aranxta-sanchez. I don't think she can make it to an all-time great.

Besides that, she's been losing to youngsters in slams already. I really think she will cave to players who're mentally more fortitude. And i'm sure there will be a youngster that will show up with that quality, or someone from the 17-21 generation that grows into it.

You are describing Sharapova there.

DragonFlame
Jan 29th, 2010, 04:53 AM
You are describing Sharapova there.

Sharapova has been physically troubled, which has influanced her game and her mentality. Totally different from Kuznetsova, who's been in good shape for many years but doesn't come out on top often.

It has to be seen if Sharapova can get her serve together, but when she does she's the only one who has been able to seriously compete with the likes of the belgians and williamsisters.

I'd take a fit sharapova over kuznetsova any day.

youizahoe
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:02 AM
Oh please. Lisicki is even more physically troubled than all other combined. It's just a matter of time untill she ends up in a wheel-chair, I hope she won't, but physically her body ain't the strongest for whatever reason.

As for Wozniacki, with her game-style, she will probably get tons of injuries each year she turns older.

As for Azarenka, I don't think she'll win slams until she buys a new serve.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:05 AM
Let me guess... Serena, Dementieva, Ana, Jelena and Jie.

Tell me I am correct.... :angel:

Clijsters , Sharapova

masha.faan
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:06 AM
Clijsters and Sharapova will be there.:)

mdterp01
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:11 AM
As much as I love my Venus and Serena, for me they are not bigger than the sport. Yes they raised the level of the game and the interest in tennis but Steffi Graf will forever remain my all time favorite female tennis player. I loved tennis before Venus and Serena and I will love it after them. All good things must come to an end eventually and I will then simply find new faves.

DragonFlame
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:12 AM
Oh please. Lisicki is even more physically troubled than all other combined. It's just a matter of time untill she ends up in a wheel-chair, I hope she won't, but physically her body ain't the strongest for whatever reason.

As for Wozniacki, with her game-style, she will probably get tons of injuries each year she turns older.

As for Azarenka, I don't think she'll win slams until she buys a new serve.

Yes you are right, I think they are far from turning into complete players, they still have time to develop. But that isn't my point at all.

I will say it again:

Do you seriously think the likes of jankovic/safina/kuznetsova(best of the 21-25 year old generation) will be the ones racking up grandslamtitles stopping those youngsters after the belgians and williamses retire?

I seriously DON'T.

The Williamses and Belgians were dominating the tour once they were 23-24, the current generation isn't even close to following their example. I have way more faith in the 17-21 generation.

youizahoe
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:27 AM
Yes you are right, I think they are far from turning into complete players, they still have time to develop. But that isn't my point at all.

I will say it again:

Do you seriously think the likes of jankovic/safina/kuznetsova(best of the 21-25 year old generation) will be the ones racking up grandslamtitles stopping those youngsters after the belgians and williamses retire?

I seriously DON'T.

The Williamses and Belgians were dominating the tour once they were 23-24, the current generation isn't even close to following their example. I have way more faith in the 17-21 generation.

Simple explanation.

When Williams' and Clijsters came on the tour, their game was different than everyone else's, their games were so effective and that's what allowed them to dominate.

Right now, everyone has a similar game, so it's not easy to distance yourself and dominate, because 90% of the tour can do what you can do, and some even better.

That's why there is only a select group of winners now. You have those that win slams because they have a tiny bit more of variety, pace, speed or net game (depending on which player you talk about). And you have those that will never win one, because they don't have that extra trick up their sleeve.

And I think the players you have mentioned, in a few years, their game will fade away into the next generation, while those other players will still be able to get the wins because of than 1% extra they have over the rest.

DragonFlame
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:54 AM
And I think the players you have mentioned, in a few years, their game will fade away into the next generation, while those other players will still be able to get the wins because of than 1% extra they have over the rest.

Again this brings me to: Which other players? :confused: Who do you see racking up slams and becoming multiple slamchampions? Safina/Jankovic/Ivanovic, other 21-25 year olds? :shrug:

The only way i could see the current 21-25 year olds do that, is if they improve considerably on the mental department. But unfortunatly, that late in a career its VERY hard to do. I don't see that extra 1% that you think they have over the youngsters. The Belgians&Williamses didn't give them the chance to develop that and there aren't that many latebloomers out there. We've seen through history that multiple slam winners mostly have been formed early on in their career, winning slams from when they were young already. I can't see anyone who hasn't won slams till they were 25+ years old rack up slams out of nowhere :shrug: Those are exceptional cases.
In that sense, i find it way more likely the current 17-21 year olds will be the ones fighting for grandslams.

silverwhite
Jan 29th, 2010, 05:57 AM
Clijsters is going to win all slams she enters to until she retires when at 7 months pregnant the day after winning her 4th Us Open, Kuznetsova is going to win Wimbledon, Safina will make 10 slams final winning 1, Sharapova is going to rule the clay season and Jankovic will set a record for more weeks at number one.

Without a slam, of course :lol:

Miranda
Jan 29th, 2010, 06:48 AM
Safina/Ivanonic/Jankovic etc will be very happy coz they finally have chance to win a slam:lol:

Feyd
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:12 AM
Everyone is replacable, no one needs to worry. The tennis world moved over Graf, Navratilova, Seles, Sampras, Agassi and many others and won't have much problem moving over this generation. At least, we will get rid of some of those "player first, tennis last fans" in the process.

Human Nature
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:22 AM
Well, i love the game first . I will keep on watching and probably have other favorites even if i know serena Williams will definitely be my all time favorite .

madmax
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:25 AM
The forum will only become better without all the bandwagonning tards and delusional fanboys

davgis
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:38 AM
Tennis just isn't the same for me anyway. No Monica, no Lindsay, no Martina, no Jennifer, no Mary. I do have Kim, Serena and Alicia, but that's it. My three faves of all time don't play anymore (THOUGH I HOLD HOPE FOR A LINDSAY COMEBACK!), Monica, Jennifer and Lindsay.

Привет
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:44 AM
Well there's still some Graf nuts and Seles lovers around, isn't there? :p

Maybe if we're lucky some of the more... entertaining? posters will stick around. :angel:

moon
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:12 AM
You mean women's tennis correct? You aren't lumping men's tennis in with that one I hope.

Regardless the game will go on just like any other sport and a great one in due time will emerge. In the NBA there was Larry & Magic, then Michael Jordan, now Kobe & Lebron. In the NFL there was Unitas, then Montana & Marino, & now Peyton Manning. In golf Palmer, then Nicklaus, & now Tiger. Wash, rinse, & repeat. When an old star fades a new one will be born. There will always be the age old debate of who is better than who, when in reality comparing generations and eras is nearly impossible. Still doesn't change the fact women's tennis won't die when these players are gone.

yes. i meant women's tennis. :angel:

just to be clear, i don't think women's tennis will die. I just don't think it will be nearly as popular. Venus and Serena are the last of the old guard. These new up and coming players just don't seem to have any personality. It's like their cranking them out at a factory. They all look the same, act the same, play the same, etc. Most of them are just...blah.

sorceress
Jan 30th, 2010, 01:43 AM
I couldn't agree more, damn boring!