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Brashkoala
Jan 28th, 2010, 05:36 PM
Just saw this video of highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQyWceaHlpQ

Apart from the serve, she looked to be playing as well as she ever had which leads me to ask, why did she truly retire in 2003?

She had some back problems but it wasn't bad enough to take her out of the game. She and Hingis said their injuries prevented them from practicing seven hours a day which is what it takes a professional player to practice. Not true. Davenport at her peak only practiced an hour to an hour and a half each day.

My opinion is she grew tired of the game and of the life it lead her to lead combined with her lack of results and chose to take the easy way out and use her back injury as an excuse.

ptitnavet
Jan 28th, 2010, 06:01 PM
The Drop Shot Queen :hearts:
I think too that she was tired of tennis but she had this serious back permanent injury.

Pureracket
Jan 28th, 2010, 06:04 PM
Well, honestly, she was financially comfortable. Tennis was not the only thing she had going on; in fact, I think her "off the court" activity had a lot to do with why she was injured so much. Because her other contracts regarding her looks were so lucrative, I seriously believe that Kournikova's handlers advised her against the muscle-building workouts that would make her successful in the game.

miffedmax
Jan 28th, 2010, 06:35 PM
She took one look at Lena's bangs, couldn't stand the thought of being the 2nd hottest Russian tennis player, and quit in a hissy fit.

Ironically, Lena trimmed off her bangs right about that same time. Not that it mattered.

KournikovaFan91
Jan 28th, 2010, 06:48 PM
Well, honestly, she was financially comfortable. Tennis was not the only thing she had going on; in fact, I think her "off the court" activity had a lot to do with why she was injured so much. Because her other contracts regarding her looks were so lucrative, I seriously believe that Kournikova's handlers advised her against the muscle-building workouts that would make her successful in the game.

First of all muscle is not neccessary imo to win titles. Not every tennis star needs to look like a man, look at Dani.

I think the back injury, lack of confidence, and financial security, all meant that she felt no need to continue playing tennis. She was quickly sliding into the Vaidisova type level like losing to Bruana Colosio as her last match.

frenchie
Jan 28th, 2010, 06:53 PM
I know I'm repeating myself but Anna had such a beautiful game:hearts::hearts:
All her shots look natural and smooth!

She had all the shots too:drool:

Pureracket
Jan 28th, 2010, 07:04 PM
First of all muscle is not neccessary imo to win titles. Not every tennis star needs to look like a man, look at Dani.

I think the back injury, lack of confidence, and financial security, all meant that she felt no need to continue playing tennis. She was quickly sliding into the Vaidisova type level like losing to Bruana Colosio as her last match.I didn't say that she needed to be super-muscular (by the way, how in the hell did men get the exclusive rights to have muscular bodies?), but they do need to have a rather athletic level of muscle tone.

I'm glad you brought up DH. Her well-documented eating disorder( due in part to trying to maintain a certain look a la Anna K) is part of the reason her game fell to pieces. DH's emergence was exciting because of her fluid movement and her depth of stroke. Because of her lack of physical development, though, her game has stayed stagnant. She's not able to hit with the more powerful, more muscular women.

goldenlox
Jan 28th, 2010, 07:18 PM
A combination of Lena's bangs and back problems

Tennisstar86
Jan 28th, 2010, 07:24 PM
Problem got tired of the attention towards the fact that she hadnt ever won a title..... She was a good player... I think had she won one she would have stuck around. Notice Anna hasnt exactly attempted to stay int he spotlight.

PLP
Jan 28th, 2010, 07:26 PM
I think it was mostly because of her back...it is a bad injury and I think it still flares up. She has mentioned that before. I think she would have fought through a few more years, especially as she retired w/o a singles title, really an aberration, she was so talented. :bigcry:
At least she has titles in doubles, including GS's.

NicoMary
Jan 28th, 2010, 07:35 PM
Well i do think that despite what we are all thinking,
Kournikova had a champion spirit a true one,
But she was not winning enough,
she may have been tired of loosing despite her amazing level sometimes
(this video does prove that she can play good really good tennis)
Moreover she had real back pain,
she was already serving like a 12 year's old girl
so if she had no more chance to train on that weak part of her game...
she would have loose and loose again.
Kournikova was a good player but not strong enough to remain that good.


Love you anna

Dominic
Jan 28th, 2010, 07:39 PM
I didn't say that she needed to be super-muscular (by the way, how in the hell did men get the exclusive rights to have muscular bodies?), but they do need to have a rather athletic level of muscle tone.

I'm glad you brought up DH. Her well-documented eating disorder( due in part to trying to maintain a certain look a la Anna K) is part of the reason her game fell to pieces. DH's emergence was exciting because of her fluid movement and her depth of stroke. Because of her lack of physical development, though, her game has stayed stagnant. She's not able to hit with the more powerful, more muscular women.

Anna had pretty much the perfect tennis body honestly. She was actually quite toned and ripped.

Pureracket
Jan 28th, 2010, 07:59 PM
Anna had pretty much the perfect tennis body honestly. She was actually quite toned and ripped.At one time, she was indeed, "ripped," but something changed. As her celebrity star got higher, her tone declined.

Dominic
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:03 PM
At one time, she was indeed, "ripped," but something changed. As her celebrity star got higher, her tone declined.

Well nowadays she does look really skinny but on this vid and in the early 2000's she looked amazing and toned. I honestly think she looked way better than now. She was, by no means big.

Pureracket
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:16 PM
Well nowadays she does look really skinny but on this vid and in the early 2000's she looked amazing and toned. I honestly think she looked way better than now. She was, by no means big.Actually, she wasn't that big towards the end of her career, and she certainly didn't maintain that.

As said earlier, her strokes were decent enough to get her some big wins, but I honestly think her desire to "not" get too muscular hampered her tennis/physical development.

frenchie
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:20 PM
Actually, she wasn't that big towards the end of her career, and she certainly didn't maintain that.

As said earlier, her strokes were decent enough to get her some big wins, but I honestly think her desire to "not" get too muscular hampered her tennis/physical development.

I definitely don't agree with that

You don't need to be muscular to be a good player
Remember what happened to JJ : she lost her speed and agility after gaining 5 kilos of muscles

Pureracket
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:27 PM
I definitely don't agree with that

You don't need to be muscular to be a good player
Remember what happened to JJ : she lost her speed and agility after gaining 5 kilos of muscles"too" muscular is what I said/meant to say. JJ's game is different from Kournikova's.

Becool
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:28 PM
I definitely don't agree with that

You don't need to be muscular to be a good player
Remember what happened to JJ : she lost her speed and agility after gaining 5 kilos of muscles

he doesnt mean get muscular, get a bodybuilder body... but an athletic physic..

Kournikova was getting skinnier each time she came by in 2002 to 2003..

she decided to become a model instead of a better tennis player.. she gets more money

auntie janie
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:29 PM
She left to follow Enrique Iglesias around. I thought everyone knew that? :shrug: But then it's many years ago now.

frenchie
Jan 28th, 2010, 08:30 PM
"too" muscular is what I said/meant to say. JJ's game is different from Kournikova's.

Kournikova was very fit during her playing days. Her game relied on flair and speed more than raw power
I still don't think lifting weights would have improved her game;)

spencercarlos
Jan 28th, 2010, 09:08 PM
The Drop Shot Queen :hearts:
I think too that she was tired of tennis but she had this serious back permanent injury.
Drop shot queen? :tape:

Anna was never know for having a great dropshot neither from her forehand or her backhand wing.

Actually her trademark shot was her DTL backhand which was a beauty and devastating weapon.

In general Kournikova had a streaky game. She could be very dangerous when on, because her flat groundstrokes were very penetrating, and she would easily move forward to the net and volley.

The thing is that tecnically she had many flaws, she had tons of problems while reaching the corners, especially with her forehand, she would end up hitting a wild flat shot, that went out 8 out 10 times. She was very fast, but she never learnt great defensive skills, as i said when oponnents opened the court against her, she used that to go for winners, rather than try to extend points or go for a deep looper shot to get back into points.

Her serve was attrocious technically, plus 30 something double faults at one match and average of 10-20 doublefaults after 1999 really would take you nowhere.

Also something that Anna had, which is the opossite with Hingis is that it seemed that she always tried to go for the worst choice of shot, from the wrong parts of the court.

For once i have to agree with Pureracet, Anna had big money in her bag and that mainly was the reason she took off, she had way too much pressure from the media to continue playing without being questioned. Her life money wise was guaranteed by 2002 and it still is i guess.

goldenlox
Jan 28th, 2010, 09:16 PM
Anna was at 2003 Birmingham but was hurting her back when she practiced. She just couldn't play anymore without reinjuring the back.

Andrew..
Jan 28th, 2010, 09:18 PM
JShe and Hingis said their injuries prevented them from practicing seven hours a day which is what it takes a professional player to practice. Not true. Davenport at her peak only practiced an hour to an hour and a half each day.
That's not really a great comparison. Davenport's game was built around her natural ability of timing. It's not something she would lose - she was born with it. Hence, she really didn't have to put in hours on the court to practice. That's why throughout her career she was able to quickly rebound to top level tennis after long layoffs - look at when she last came back. She only was hitting for about six weeks before her first pro match. The timing just doesn't go away...

AnnaK_4ever
Jan 28th, 2010, 09:20 PM
She hadn't defeated a top-tenner since 2000, she was useless. That's why she retired.

KournikovaFan91
Jan 28th, 2010, 09:38 PM
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Just found this on youtube :sad: It was in 2003.

ce
Jan 28th, 2010, 10:12 PM
omg that was more than 7 years ago :tape:

Berlin_Calling
Jan 28th, 2010, 10:34 PM
At one time, she was indeed, "ripped," but something changed. As her celebrity star got higher, her tone declined.

That is completely untrue. What sort of proof are you basing this off of? Anna stayed in tip top physical condition throughout her whole career. She was never 'ripped' but had THE perfect, toned athletic body until her retirement in 2003. She has since lost this build and a lot of muscle mass since her retirement, but during her playing days, she was known for her fitness.

#1SteffiGraf#1
Jan 29th, 2010, 02:38 AM
Anna didnt care about being best player, she wanted to be a Diva/Tennis player. I think its the same thing Sharapova and Ivanovic have to fight with too. They are beautiful, they are good and its more than just playing Tennis. They are sex symbols as well.

Imo, its muuch easier for Henin and Clijsters and Kuznetsova to win more because nobody really cares about them off court. Its all about playing and winning for them.

Wojtek
Jan 29th, 2010, 06:06 AM
She took one look at Lena's bangs, couldn't stand the thought of being the 2nd hottest Russian tennis player, and quit in a hissy fit.



Bullshit.

Ask American who doesn't know tennis - who is Kournikouva and who is Dementieva? :tape::tape:

Volcana
Jan 29th, 2010, 06:26 AM
Apart from the serve, she looked to be playing as well as she ever had If you actually think that, you're blind. Or you weren't watching tennis very closely back then. Kournikova was lost in her first match, in 16 out of 25 tournaments she played.

This is a former top ten player, and two tiem slam winner in doubles. And she can't get out of the second round. andyou say her game is as good as ever!!??!which leads me to ask, why did she truly retire in 2003?

She had some back problems but it wasn't bad enough to take her out of the game.Are you her doctor? How could you POSSIBLY know that? Has she done something sincethat celarly required a stong back? Is she an Olymic downhil skier now? She and Hingis said their injuries prevented them from practicing seven hours a day which is what it takes a professional player to practice. Not true. Davenport at her peak only practiced an hour to an hour and a half each day.Okay. Give us a quote from Davenprt where SHE says she only 'practiced an hour and a half each day'. Davenport was a an overweight player who's peak came when she put in the addiional wok to LOSE weight. You're saying she barely practiced, relative to other players. Give us SOME evidence. please.My opinion...is so uninformed, and so lacking in supporting evidence, its a walking joke. Have you ever HAD a back injury? I have. Sitting, standing breathing can hurt.

Is there anything more PITIFUL in life, than wannabe denigrating the accomplishments of someone who's worked harder, and one more? I manage to live knowing Steven Hawking is smarter than me. I don't like it, but it doesn't keep me up at night.

Can't you just accept that Anna Kournikova is a better athlete than you? And better looking? And harder worker? And has a higher pain threshold? And she's happier? And.... oh well, let's just face it. Delete you from the gene pool, no great loss.

Direwolf
Jan 29th, 2010, 06:39 AM
She have the money
+
Hingis is a perfectionist
and she got sick of her...
+
too many lesbos on tour hitting on her

Navratil
Jan 29th, 2010, 07:42 AM
She was dissed by the other players because of her offcourt success and couldn't handle the pressure anymore :-D))

donniedarkofan
Jan 29th, 2010, 08:24 AM
First of all muscle is not neccessary imo to win titles. Not every tennis star needs to look like a man, look at Dani.

I think the back injury, lack of confidence, and financial security, all meant that she felt no need to continue playing tennis. She was quickly sliding into the Vaidisova type level like losing to Bruana Colosio as her last match.

well, while i agree on the injury and cofidence, i won't agree on the financial security. I saw Anna train at the end o 2002, i saw her in in 2003 also. Live. She was willing to play, to train, to work hard. She was into it. You provided a link to the video from AO2003, you can see how excited she was by winning a match and looking forward to the rest of the season. She wasn't giving up at all.

She had great game. This match against Dokic...it was pain to watch, she played some great tennis. Amazing tennis!

Spencercarlos-no, you're wrong. Kournikova's best shot was backhand crosscourt and Anna was known for having great dropshots, especially from the backhand side. You know, she played the two handed slice. The rest of your comments are accurate.

Pops Maellard
Jan 29th, 2010, 08:26 AM
Me beating her 7-6(6), 0-6, 7-6(6) wouldn't have helped. :lol:

LCS
Jan 29th, 2010, 08:47 AM
Anna :sobbing:

WhatTheDeuce
Jan 29th, 2010, 08:57 PM
I really think her back was the main issue. The rest of her problems and lack of motivation were just reasons on top of that not to risk her health to try and play again.

Miss her like crazy <3

goldenlox
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:17 PM
Anna didn't lack motivation. Harold Solomon said she was training hard. And he's an old school grinder.
It was her back. She couldn't serve with any pace, without reinjury.
Even in the WTT and charity exhibitions after she left, she always serves a very soft spin serve

Why do you think Golovin retired?
Why do you think Dinara walked off the court at the YEC and AO?
It's not a lack of motivation or financial security

miffedmax
Jan 29th, 2010, 09:29 PM
Yeah, I fucked up my back playing soccer. You can't do anything. You can't run, you can't bend over, you can't do anything that involves using your upper body.

I mean, I can weekend warrior it and still play a little tennis, but nothing like the stress a pro would have to go through. And sometimes even decades later my back will give out and I'm messed up for days. If you've never had a bad back injury you really don't know how debilitating they are, and there one of those kinds of injuries that still don't seem to heal 100%, no matter if you have surgery, therapy, massage, etc. Especially if you have any kind of underlying problem like mild scoliosis (like me) or other condition.